January 25, 2008
Posted: 02:00 PM ET

(CNN) — Days after she was the only major presidential candidate to appear on Michigan’s Democratic primary ballot, and four days before Florida’s voters head to the polls, Hillary Clinton has released a statement calling on her party to seat both states’ delegates at the national convention this summer.

Both Florida and Michigan had lost that privilege because of penalties arising from their decision to schedule their primaries in January, in violation of national party instructions.

“I hear all the time from people in Florida and Michigan that they want their voices heard in selecting the Democratic nominee,” Clinton said in a statement released by her campaign.

“I believe our nominee will need the enthusiastic support of Democrats in these states to win the general election, and so I will ask my Democratic convention delegates to support seating the delegations from Florida and Michigan,” she added.

“I know not all of my delegates will do so and I fully respect that decision. But I hope to be President of all 50 states and U.S. territories, and that we have all 50 states represented and counted at the Democratic convention.”

The major candidates, including Clinton and rivals Barack Obama and John Edwards, had promised not to campaign in either state following the Democratic National Committee’s decision, and Obama and Edwards did not appear on Michigan’s primary ballot. Despite calls from her opponents to remove her name from the ballot, Clinton did not follow suit, and she won the state’s primary January 15, with 55 percent of the vote.

On Monday, Clinton’s campaign condemned Barack Obama for running an ad on national cable news networks, including CNN, saying that the spot would air in Florida and violate the no-campaign pact agreed to by most of the Democratic field.

In Friday’s statement, Clinton called on her fellow nominees to join her – but said she would continue to abide by that pledge, and expected the rest of the presidential field to, as well.

The Obama campaign released a statement from campaign manager David Plouffe criticizing the move.

“When Sen. Clinton was campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire, she made it clear that states like Michigan and Florida that wouldn’t produce any delegates, ‘don’t count for anything,'" he said.

He said Clinton was trying to "assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates and where no campaigning has occurred. Sen. Clinton’s own campaign has repeatedly said that this is a ‘contest for delegates,’ and Florida is a contest that offers zero."

– CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Florida • Hillary Clinton • Michigan


artie   February 4th, 2008 4:55 pm ET

hilliary will win and john mccain will win

terra   January 30th, 2008 7:57 pm ET

Its the great powers that be who made the decisions for the people not the people. We the people are the ones being punished in these states where our votes dont count. This isnt fair. This makes the race fixed as far as this florida democrate is concerned. The governement has silenced my voice.

Cgalas   January 30th, 2008 2:03 pm ET

That Hillary Clinton would sign and agreement and then ignore it - not only ignore it - but deplore it's 'unfairness' - after the fact and when it begins to look like she is losing - is very disturbing. She - to me - is the epitome of democratic party whose underlying theme must be 'rules are meant to be ignored when inconvenient'.

C Peters   January 29th, 2008 3:32 pm ET

How in the world did Florida and Michigan allow such a situation as no delegates for the state to happen? The election process should make every attempt to allow every voice to be heard!! From every state.
Dr.Dean step up to the plate and correct this situation.
I am trying to encourage people to be accountable for their actions.
The persons that moved the date and eliminated the delegates need to be counciled.
Please try and get it together before the General Election!!!!!!!

Florida gal   January 28th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

It's not right or fair that Florida should be stripped of our democratic delegate votes. This is crazy and it needs to be corrected!! C'mon Gov. Christ, you need to have our delegate votes reinstated!! Geeze,,, what a bunch of crap!!

Kelvin from newyork city   January 27th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

ANYA WHO IS YOU TO JUDGE HE WHO CALL THE LORD NAME IN VANE DON'T BE LEAVE IN HIM SO THINK TWICE BE FOR YOU TALK HILLARY FOR 2008

c martin   January 27th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Aishia…the ads that went up in Florida were not approved by Barack and was asked several times by his campaign to ask the contributer to stop the ads. So lets get the facts straight….who is the only leaving their name on ballots in both penalty states…..Hillary Clinton.

Now that is 35 yrs of campaigning….I mean experience.!!!

Liz   January 27th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I believe that the Michigan and Florida delegates should count. I liked the fact that Hilary left her name on the ballot as Obama and Edwards took their names off. Despite the fact that they did this, there were a lot of other people who wanted to vote for them. Obviously the states moved up their primary to be heard. Don't you know that Michigan is in a one state recession? I was extremely disppointed that although Clinton left her name on the ballot, she did not come to campaign or give a speech in Michigan at all. I would have liked to vote for a candidate who actually came to the state, so that I could get to know what he/she may think and how he/she could help the state's and the country's poor economy. Are we not the United States for nothing? I need a president to want to hear from my state as well as all of the other states and have a solution for them. So, let those states be heard at the national convention, please.

Belinda   January 26th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

What 35 years of experience??? PLEEEEEEZE!!!!

Bryant   January 26th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

scgal:

You wrote, "I am proud to support Sen CLinton. She represents everyone and wants everyone's vote to count even if it is not for her."

Then how do you explain Nevada? Her campaign agreed to have the DNC add more caucus sites along the Vegas strip, then–after the Culinary Union endorsed Obama–her supporters sued to have those same caucuses removed in an attempt to disenfranchise those same culinary union members! These are not the actions of someone who wants "everyone's vote to count".

I respect your disagreement with the DNC's decision on delegates, but ALL of the candidates agreed to it! NOW, knowing she's already won Michigan (though I'm not impressed with someone only winning 55% when they're virtually unopposed), she comes out and says the delegates should be seated. Don't any of Hillary's supporters see how self-serving this is? How is this a brave or unselfish move on her part?

Dee   January 26th, 2008 4:35 pm ET

To Marg - if you're not anti Clinton it doesn't get posted.
bashers unite it won't mean a thing. the republicans will win if we cut off people in our party and i know if i lived in fla or mich i would vote republican in a general election and tell the demos where to go. Didn't the DNC learn when bush pulled off the biggest heist in American history over Gore in Fla. Does anyone at the leadership level remember hanging chads?

Dee   January 26th, 2008 4:28 pm ET

i guess obama played by the rules when he ran ads that appeared in fla against the pledge that all 3 made not to campaign there. I guess he played by the rules when he called edwards out on a spec interest ad and told him he had to denounce the ad but it's ok for him a week later in nevada to have a discusting radio ad and in S.C. he has spec interest ads that edwards is objecting to with just cause. As for change, America's been changing since it's inception and will continue to do that no matter who is president. i believe that the republicans are licking their chops at the demos snub of fla and MI. those disinfranchised voters may rebell and go to the GOP. obama's a cry baby and i wonder what will happen when the press stories increase on Feb 25 when rezko goes to trial. Can't wait to see the GOP rip him up on that if he gets the nod from the demos!

WW - New York   January 26th, 2008 3:59 pm ET

I can surely understand that Florida and Michigan residents want their voices heard “I would too”. However the rules are the rules. If she can’t follow party rules.. I’m very concerned about her following the rules of the country. I can see it now.. She won’t listen to anyone if she’s elected president.. Please people don’t put the lives of America in her hands. If you don’t like Obama vote Edwards!

Tom Masters   January 26th, 2008 3:56 pm ET

Ya know, after the waterworks she pulled to show she'd be weak on the world stage (c'mon crying because you 'think' you 'might' be losing a 'race'?!) I said on talk radio that if she does anything that stoopid again I'd not vote for her.

I gotta really think about it now, this may be that stoopid of her.

Dirty politics? Fine, it's totally entertaining, but play by the freakin' rules!

I understand why everyone questions Bill's integrity, hers is now in question.

The jury's out on this one, especially after the 'reps should quit' quote.

She's really messin' up.

Cathy   January 26th, 2008 3:27 pm ET

Do you people understand that in a National Ad, you can EXCLUDE Florida.??? Please don't be so ignorant., that's how we got BUSH!!! Hillary did Not run ads in FLORIDA, yet OBAMA is running NON-Stop ADS. CHEATER CHEATER. I ran for office, and I know how ad buys go.. He Cheated plain and simple because he saw he was about 17-22 percent behind HILLARY on all FLORIDA polls. Also, the ignorant person above who said HILLARY agreed to not count delegates early on because they were not in her favor back then is so SADLY MISTAKEN. WE HERE IN FLORIDA, Love HILLARY!!! She was always way AHEAD. So please don't post lies like you know about Florida. HILLARY even without ONE COMMERCIAL is STILL WAY AHEAD!!! OBAMA's PLEDGE MEANS NOTHING…SO what he is selling you all is a LIE As WELL!

TOM   January 26th, 2008 3:20 pm ET

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS LOOKS LIKE THE CLINTONS ARE TRYING TO OBTAIN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE SINCE THESE TWO STATES HAVE A MAJORITY FOR HILIARY; HOWEVER AT THE SAME TIME I CANT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN JUST COME OUT AND SAY SINCE YOU DECIDED TO HAVE AN EARLY PRIMARY THAT YOUR VOTES MEAN NOTHING. IF THAT IS NOT TAKING AWAY ONE OF THE MOST SACRED RIGHTS OF OUR COUNTRY I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. THERE SHOULD BE A MORE FAIR AND JUST WAY TO PUNISH THE PEOPLE WHO WENT AGAINST THE DNC OTHER THAN DENYING THE RIGHT TO VOTE TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FLORIDIANS AND VOTERS IN MICHIGAN. I PERSONALLY THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A NATIONAL PRIMARY. GET THIS ALL OUT OF THE WAY IN ONE STINKING DAY. WOULD BE A LOT CHEAPER AND A WHOLE LOT SHORTER THAN HAVING THESE CAMPAIGNS RUN THE ENTIRE YEAR OR EVEN MORE BEFORE THE ACTUAL VOTING.

John, Milwaukee, WI   January 26th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

This will be a very interesting election!

Obama is well on his way to re-starting the Civil War or perhaps I should say a RACE WAR that will destroy the DEMOCRATIC Party.

The REPUBLICANS are all racing to see who will fit into the newest style of caveman loin cloth.

As an INDEPENDENT I can only watch and wonder where America went…

Just a Texan   January 26th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Ok for you people in Michigan that are so glad Hillary "cares for you".

What about all those voters who showed up to vote "undecided"….now what does that tell you about some of the other folks in your state? Do you think maybe they think for themselves instead of being one of those sheep following others off a cliff? Take the blinders off for God's sake. America doesn't need anymore dirty politics…no more of the Clintons.

I'm an independent for Obama by the way. Would for sure have voted "undecided" myself if I only had a vote for Hill-Bill-A-Ry. I would have drug myself out in the cold, snow, flood, or fire just to vote "undecided".

Joelle, Racine, WI   January 26th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I just can't believe America allows 18-29 year old people the right to vote; these folks are totally disinterested and their brains are not yet fully developed!

scgal   January 26th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

January 25, 2008 4:21 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

In the US every person's vote should count. I do not agree with the DNC's decision to punish the voters in Michigan and Florida. Punish the state party by taking away some power but do not take away the power of the people.
To respond the the charges about Michigan, there was a concerted effort to have people vote uncommitted. Those people who did so showed their support for Senators Obama and Edwards. Sen. Clinton still won over 50% of the vote.

I am proud to support Sen CLinton. She represents everyone and wants everyone's vote to count even if it is not for her.

kevin from alaska   January 26th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

You can't agree to rules before the game starts and then try to change them after the first quarter.

Stop it Hillary. Either win without Michigan and Florida (like Obama and John are trying to do) or don't win at all.

Fair is fair. Counting Michigan and Florida now is not.

Paula in FL   January 26th, 2008 1:47 pm ET

If Hillary wanted voices heard, why did she have her campaigns shut doors early in the NV caucus?

If Hillary is a candidate of change with 35 years of experience "implementing change" then why does America still want and need change? Either she hasn't really been doing anything for 35 years or has some other idea of what constitutes change….think about it.

America does not need more of the same.

BoroMarl   January 26th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Thought I never would say that, but here I go: Republicans seem to be smarter. RNC took half of the MI delegates out of the game. They delivered the penalty message AND held a primary that meant something. Don’t be too surprised if MI goes red in the general election; thanks to Howard Dean & DNC.

And don’t be too surprised if the race between the two Clintons and Obama after Super Tuesday is still close to see lawyers walking in to make sure that the MI and FL vote counts (just when it fits into strategy); to make sure that “uncommitted” doesn’t meant Obama or Edwards. And don’t be too surprised to hear the same old broken record over and over again: “I have nothing to do with that Michigan lawsuit, I swear, so help me god!”

Sometimes I wonder, could it be, that the greatest enemies of the Democratic Party are within the Democratic Party?

Bore lost THE un-lost-able election, Kerry flip-flopped another un-lost-able election and the two Clintons sure will join the team in the upcoming “losing is mission impossible” election.

Please stop the madness and end the ongoing vendetta or face JE Bush 2012 and Chelsea Clinton 2020 as a result of that backdoor monarchy, which we, the voters, apparently unsolicited install.

Tiffany   January 26th, 2008 1:05 pm ET

I can't see them not counting the delegates in these states. It seems to be againg the principles of the Democratic party for their voices to be stripped away. Besides, at least at this time it appears the race is too close to call, and may continue to be that way, which will make Michigan and Florida necessary.

Hillary won Michigan, regardless of who was or was not on the ballot. Obama and Edwards removed their names from the ballot (which wasn't required as part of the no campaign pledge) and then tried unsuccessfully to have them reinstated, as well as unsuccessfully to get write-in votes allowed. Obama surrogates (Edwards to a much smaller extent) then campaigned on his behalf urging everyone to vote uncommitted if you didn't want Hillary. In spite of this, Hillary won 55% to 40% and she didn't have any campaiging on her behalf in Michigan. I think this is truly why Obama is not stepping up and also demanding the votes be counted. It's because HIllary won significantly despite the tactics employed on his behalf.

Now Obama is doing the same thing with Florida. He takes out a national ad buy, knowing full well that it would play in Florida, where he also signed a pledge not to run campaign ads. I don't buy into the excuse being made on his behalf that it's no big deal because the adds are running all over the country (while interestingly I have not seen a single one where I live, which happens to be a state that votes after February 5). Everyone else has managed to run adds and campaign all over without being in Florida, as per the pledge.

Obama is just your typical politician. Although, I view him to be much worse than the typical, as he claims he is above all the usual tactics and campaigns on transcending and changing politics. In truth, he is just as bad, if not worse, than the rest of them.

I would be willing to bet that if Obama had won Michigan (by way of undecided) and was much closer or ahead in the polls in Florida, he would be asking for the same thing. Since it is not of any benefit to him to have the delegates seated, then he prefers not to support it.

Phil Memphis, TN   January 26th, 2008 12:58 pm ET

I can not speak to Ms. Clinton's intentions and have no doubt that if she did not see this as a gain for her camp she would not be bringing it up. However, I agree with one of the comments above that said this is dangerous for the Democratic party. They ar epunishing the voters in two states for the actions of a few party leaders. It would almost serve the Dems right if the people in those states all voted Republican. i just hope that does not happen because the stakes are way too high. If another Republican is put in office (with the possible exception of McCain) America will be lost to us forever.

PAUL PROVIDENCE RI   January 26th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

I see that people have posted their view after I have and are posted and i have not been

James   January 26th, 2008 12:41 pm ET

Obama is running national ads because he can't be in two places at once, like the Clintons. And don't give me the line about his wife is also campaigning for him. If you think that Michelle Obama has the type of political pull that Bill does, then you're crazy.

And if the people of Michigan and Florida wanted their delegates counted, then they should have followed the wishes of the DNC. I live in Indiana, and our primary is in May. Traditionally, the nominations have already been secured by the time we vote. I dislike not having a say in the primaries, but there's no use to whining about disenfranchisement. The entire primary election system needs a complete overhaul, but until that day, not every state will truly have a say in the primary elections. There is a big deal about Florida and Michigan because they were publicly reprimanded.

And if Hillary was sincerely interested in every person's vote counting, she would have protested the removal of delegates from the beginning.

Jen   January 26th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

I love the comment I read earlier:

HILLARY CLINTON IS THE TANYA HARDING OF POLITICS.

This latest ploy is CHEATING at its worst!

Call her on it and do NOT vote for Hillary! She will cheat our country at any opportunity, as long as she gets back in the White House for REVENGE!

TheAllegedRightWingConspiracy   January 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

About Obama and that Florida add I'm seeing blogs on here…if it's true…don't know…don't live there….on but wait….I BET OBAMA KNEW NOTHING….WASN'T INFORMED….IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ROGUE GROUPS…HE CAN'T HELP WHAT HIS SURROGATES DID OR SAID.

Does that sound even remotely familiar?

Who cares. The CLINTONS KNOW NO RULES anyway. Those are the things that apply to everybody else in this nation.

As for those people in Michigan who are so glad Hillary "cared enough" to stay on the ballot? Two words: WAKE UP. Hillary doesn't care about anyone but herself ! P.S. EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE….I repeat EVERY OTHER CANDIDATE pulled their names off the ballot EXCEPT Hillary.

So you really think NONE OF THEM CARED about votes in Michigan? Are you kidding me? If your haven't seen that writing on the wall I seriously doubt you are intelligent enough to read this post anyway. People who think like you are part of the reason this country is in the shape it's in today.

Independent for Obama 08!

Marg   January 26th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

Ginny,
I strongly agree that CNN should tell us how they decide which comments
to post and which to ignore. I believe that they may be ignoring many
supporters of Senator Clilnton, which (if that is the case) shows that they
are limiting free speech because of bias on their part. Also, since I see
few comments supporting Senator Edwards or Senator Clinton, it seems
obvious who CNN is showing bias toward.

All the national polls show that Hillary is substantially ahead of Obama, so
it seems strange that most of the comments that CNN posts favor Obama.

This probably will not be posted, but at least someone at CNN will read
this (maybe), and they will know that we know that they are showing bias.

Larry   January 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET

Let's please have a ticket of Al Gore and Barack Obama!

AL AND BARACK, WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

jyfranca   January 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

One thing we can agree with is that this hillarybill clinton will win nomination she is desperate and they will do anything to win.Am 100% she will pick barack obama as her running mate why?because she is ready to do whatever to win.She has in her mind plan of picking Bill richardson but she is compelled by the fact that without picking obama she wont get to the white house.Am sure if Obama declines to be her running mate she will pick a black candidate to be her running mate.The question is who?My prediction will stand Hillary will win nomination and she will pick obama or other black.She cant pick rangel because of constitution banning.she might pick jesse jackson or any influential black if obama doesnt enter.On republic side McCain will win nomination and am sure Huckabee will be his running mate.Why?i cant tell.McCain may think of picking fred thompson but the age is the factor he cant have a ticket for two old men.In november Mc Cain will prevail why?Hillarybill clinton negative attack plus flip flopping a lot on Iraq.

Paula in FL   January 26th, 2008 10:47 am ET

Do not be fooled by the Clintons' tactics. Change the rules midway? Do you think she cares about anyone or anything except her own power? She does not care about FL or NV or SC….only the WH. Do not be fooled!!! The Clinton machine is not to be trusted. Vote for integrity, vote for hope, vote for change, vote Obama!!

pattyk   January 26th, 2008 10:32 am ET

The DNC asked the candidates to remove their names from the Michigan ballot in protest for Michigan breaking the rules as to moving up the primary. The Governor's "reasoning" for an early primary was to make Michigan more significant a presence in the overall primary process. The irony of this thoughtless action was had the state adhered to the original date Michigan would matter. How about this…So HRC wants to restore the world's confidence in the USA? The world is watching, her own Party can not trust her, and just a tip…I don't think I'd like to be in a foxhole with someone who has only their own self interest at heart. Poor HRC, maybe she just didn't think.

Frank, MO   January 26th, 2008 10:28 am ET

newvoter2008-HoustonTX January 26, 2008 2:02 am ET

SHE WON'T GET MY VOTE AS A WOMAN, DEMOCRAT OR FOR BEING A WHITE AMERICAN. IF I WANTED BUSH IN A DEMOCRAT SUIT, I WOULD HAVE ASKED HIM TO PUT ON A DRESS AND RUN AGAIN.
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HA HA! He (She) would actually win against Billary!

OBAMA'08 or DEFEAT'08

Trent   January 26th, 2008 10:17 am ET

Interesting how Hillary only wanted those Michigan votes to count after she'd already won the state.

Rose   January 26th, 2008 9:46 am ET

There is no wondering about CNN removing posts. Every one I posted has been removed. Mediamatters.org has a wealth of information about who said what as far as what Pundits say. More freedom of speech.
Hillary kept her name on the ballot in Michigan. Why shouldn't she get the delegates? The card carrying Clinton bashers are always going to say negative things weather truth or lies. That is why Hillary will be a good President, she's already been bash tested and she won against the right.

Ann CT   January 26th, 2008 9:34 am ET

Good Morning,

As a caucasion woman I will not vote for HRC. While I think she is solid on the issues I have real concerns about integrity and morals. Have we forgotten what the last 3-4 years of Clinton time in the WH was like? Nothing will change if she gets in the WH. It will be the same garbage and tit for tat that we are seeing now, but with different players. The Clinton's inspire this!

I am amazed that the Clinton's are downplaying the hate republicans have for them. Wasn't it Karl Rove who said nothing would make the republican party unite faster than to run against HRC?

I think all the states should be heard absolutely that is our constitutional right as americans, but I think it would be niave to think HRC would be challenging the delegates to count if she didn't think she could win. Believe me, HRC doesn't vote that way and she doesn't play that way.

Regarding the race card, Obama hasn't brought it up, he has worked to the contrary and since this is obviously not benefiting him I find it hard to believe he would play it. Think about it!

Bill Clinton last night talking about the right winged conspiracy is laughable, but either way you look at it these people have may enemies. Sad very sad.

Respectfully Submitted.

WW - New York   January 26th, 2008 9:18 am ET

Gene in Illinois..
He promised the voters of Illinois to finish his entire term here and not use his office as a platform to run for president. So far, we have not seen or heard from him too much as he has been busy breaking that promise!

Well as a New York resident, "we" heard the same! Hillary made same promise and doing the same thing! Just thought I would let you know.

Spinmaster   January 26th, 2008 9:01 am ET

I dunno folks.

Not allowing the michigan and florida voters a say in who becomes the nominee will do nothing but hurt the Democratic party in the long run.

I really think they should consider this. By the way, the candidates didnt agree to take their names off the ballot. They were all on there except Edwards and Obama. The DNC never asked them to take their name off the ballot.

Clay, CA   January 26th, 2008 8:44 am ET

It was the final straw for me when Obama violated the no-campaigning agreement and started airing ads in Florida. I want a president who says what he means, means what he says, and stands by his word. In this case, the "he" is a "she". I am now a proud Hillary supporter and wish her God's Speed in South Carolina today.

Vivien CA   January 26th, 2008 8:12 am ET

Go Hillary!! We are watching from California and you're making us proud. We're behind you 100%.

Sue, Michigan   January 26th, 2008 8:02 am ET

I have a comment "awaiting moderation" from 12 hours ago, too. What's with that? All I said was that Michigan was trying to get candidates here to understand that the economy is the real issue. the Republicans were here and got the message out.

You people that agree with the DNC about pulling our delegates are wrong. WHY are Iowa and NH more important to the process than we are? WHY should Michigan behave like a nice little child and wait until AFTER Feb. 5 when this will be mostly decided, and then have a vote? We wanted to make a difference, and that was not hurting Super Tuesday. Thank you, Mrs. Clinon, for speaking up for us against the idiots who are the DNC. If they continue to disenfranchise us and Florida, we may find a candidate outside the party, and don't think we can't make a difference nationally.

Linda in Gainesville,FL   January 26th, 2008 7:28 am ET

Go for it Hillary!!

anon   January 26th, 2008 7:22 am ET

Democrat in MO:
You must be delusional. The only people attempting to add race to this primary are the people working under Hillary Clinton. They're trying to force Obama into the "black candidate" profile, because if they can turn Barack Obama into Al Sharpton, they can demolish him in the white vote. It's the lowest of political maneuvers. Obama ran his entire political career above the question of race, and now the Clintons are going to use his race to beat him. It's insulting to the Democratic voters who have believed for decades that the Democratic party was actually beyond race politics. The Clintons prove that their legacy for the Democratic Party is merely a liberal version of Republican cynicism.

And I don't even see the point to responding to your other points. Since Hillary has run the worst ads and sent out a Presidential Attack Dog to do her bidding. It kinda outweighs the "wrongness" of Obama's ads. And if you want to talk about slime in politics, it's funny that you would attack Obama for a benign land deal (with a man who is not a slum lord, that part was a Clinton lie) when the Clintons are guilty of a hundred times worse.

I'm a Democrat and I'll never vote for Clinton. This is a chorus echoed across the country. The Republican party is salivating for the opportunity to knock down the Clintons. It'll be the end of the Democratic party. You think things were bad in 2004? You haven't seen anything yet.

matt   January 26th, 2008 7:13 am ET

Wow! This topic combines two political topics that I detest. Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party of Michigan and Florida. Two greedy states and one bitter politician. What a shock that the most immoral and dishonest candidate in the Democratic field wants to reward the asinine behavior of the greedy states. Florida and Michigan deserve their punishment.

Ruth   January 26th, 2008 7:03 am ET

Yes CNN tell me why my last 10 posts were deleted. Why are you censuring a blog when the posters do not use profanity or make denegrating remarks?

It seems that the Ron Paul supporters get deleted more than anyone else does.
It may have something to do with the fact that you are blatanly excluding him from any campaign coverage.

Shame on you. We, the people of the United States of America have a voice. Stop deleting posts that do not go against your policy.

Mary   January 26th, 2008 6:11 am ET

By the way, Floraida primary ballots will have the names of ALL the current Democratic candidates on the ballot; a name would be removed only if a candidate drops out of the race completely.

It's very telling that Obama chose to "break the rules" by advertising in Florida where his name will appear on the ballot, though he supposedly doesn't think Clinton should now make a plea for (Michigan's and) Florida's delegates.

It's just magical that he can talk out of two sides of his mouth that way.

Anon   January 26th, 2008 5:24 am ET

I did not…have….financial relations with that man…Tony Rezko…I don't know how he got in that picture…I never invited him…not a single time, never.

Bernice   January 26th, 2008 4:57 am ET

I also would like to ask the people of South Carolina to think vote for John Edwards and/or Barack Obama in their primary.

If Hillary Clinton gets a lot of votes, it will just feed into her race-baiting tactics for political gain.

Hillary Clinton is shameless because she is probably not racist herself; however, she is willing to divide the country racially for political gain. It's worse when people are so cynical that they believe others (such as the good people of South Carolina) will buy into her shameless message.

If this works for her, the people of South Carolina will be the losers because they will be put in a very negative light.

You don't have to vote for Barack Obama; John Edwards is a native son and he could use the votes. Just don't vote for the Clintons. Don't let race baiting work in this case. Please!!!

I am a 45 year old white woman.

kathryn   January 26th, 2008 4:40 am ET

Aisha people like you are what is wrong with America. Not all Republicans are bad just like not all democrats are good. As proven by the fact that both Hillary and Bill have given far more substantial praise to Ronald Reagan and now John McCain than Barack. You are obviously blind or willfully ignorant.

PAUL PROVIDENCE RI   January 26th, 2008 4:37 am ET

Yes, it is okay to break the law? These 2 states were told about thier action and what would happen and still they went on with the change. This is from the national party not the govement. This was also known before the election even started and now Hillary has a problem with it. It is okay to change you mind mid stream to fit your needs. Now we have another flip-flopper here. By the way if there was any problem in NV. voting, why isn't there a law suit? Ask yourself what are "SUPER DELEGATES" and why have them? Is it really up to the American people who is choose or a sham? Everyones votes should be counted and then picked at the national party convention. This so called democratic voting is flawed and can be and will be, unless Americans stand up and take back their country.

Khwaty   January 26th, 2008 4:36 am ET

HIllary STAND UP with the PEOPLE of MICHIGAN and FLORIDA, I can't say the same thing with Obama who also broke a pledge not to put ad campaign in Florida and my candidate Edwards, like Obama made a decision to withdraw their name from the ballot. Hillary has NOTHING to gain by keeping her name in the ballot, but it was a SYMBOLIC gesture she is NOT abandoning the people in Michigan.

This might be considered a small matter to a LOT of people, but put it in a bigger picture, the impact is HEAVIER. If a person running for nomination will NOT stand up for you because (NOTHING for them to gain) the DNC told them you as a voter cannot have a representation during the convention, would you expect that person will stand up for YOU when he becomes a President against multibillion dollars corporations?

Hillary has NOTHING to GAIN by leaving her name in the ballot in Michigan, but at the end of the day, PEOPLE MATTERS over an organization. If the people doesn't matter to YOU because you have NOTHING to gain, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO BE ELECTED AS PRESIDENT.

" THE TRUE MEASURE OF A GOOD LEADER IS NOT BASED ON WORDS BUT IN DEEDS."

A person who gives you the moon and the stars, will slit your throat in a heartbeat without batting an eyelash. True inspiration comes from hardwork, not poetic languages that can melt your heart.

tomdavie   January 26th, 2008 4:28 am ET

Dont you guys know?

I post at ABC,CBS, USA TODAY, WASHINGTON POST, AP and others. My comments are ALWAYS put up.

There is concrete and OBVIOUS evidence CNN is picking and choosing who gets to post due to political reasons. I myself am beyond disapointed and at this stage think its a TOTAL JOKE.

I'm With You Michele   January 26th, 2008 3:51 am ET

If a lot of the white people in South Carolina would protest the race baiting of Hillary Clinton, that would help put a fast stop to politicians using race as a weapon in campaigns.

In the republilcan priimary in South Carolina, the voters were turned off by the confederate flag being brought up for political gain. Let's do the same thing for the race baiting done by the Clintons.

I am insulted that the Clintons would think they can "race bait" in South Carolina. Just think what they must think of the people of South Carolina that they would think such a tactic would work.

Let's not give the pundits a chance to keep pointing out how "race" is still a problem in South Carolina.

With your help, we can show the Clintons that they have underestimated the people of South Carolina. I know they are not racist; however, it is worse to divide the American people by race just for personal political gain.

Think about it. White people can just say "no" to the Clintons by voting for either Edwards or Obama.

newvoter2008-HoustonTX   January 26th, 2008 2:10 am ET

PS - IF HILARY IS SO EXPERIENCED, WHY DID SHE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 25TH

TO SAY ANYTHING?? NOW SHE SAYS SOMETHING B/C SHE CARES?? SHE

MAKES A JOKE OF THE PARTY. EVERY STATE- THERE'S DRAMA! RULES ARE

THERE FOR A REASON. FLORIDA & MICHIGAN MOVED UP W/O PERMISSION.

RULES IN THE DNC ARE TO ENSURE FAIR VOTING SITES, NOT FOR DECOR.

ARE DEMOCRATS SO EASILY SWAYED? COMMERCIALS ARE FOR ALL PEOPLE

TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER. DELEGATES REARRANGEMENT IS PARTY RELATED.

newvoter2008-HoustonTX   January 26th, 2008 2:08 am ET

PS - IF HILARY IS SO EXPERIENCED, WHY DID SHE WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 25TH TO SAY ANYTHING?? NOW SHE SAYS SOMETHING B/C SHE CARES?? SHE MAKES A JOKE OF THE PARTY. EVERY STATE- THERE'S DRAMA! RULES ARE THERE FOR A REASON. FLORIDA & MICHIGAN MOVED UP W/O PERMISSION. RULES IN THE DNC ARE TO ENSURE FAIR VOTING SITES, NOT FOR DECOR.
ARE DEMOCRATS SO EASILY SWAYED? COMMERCIALS ARE FOR ALL PEOPLE TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER. DELEGATES ARE RELATED TO THE CONVENTION.

Heather Peterson   January 26th, 2008 2:08 am ET

I am an Obama supporter from Michigan. It's not fair that he and Mr. Edwards took their names off the ballot in order to comply with party rules and Mrs. Clinton did not. If our delegates count, that means I did not get to vote for who I wanted to. This is cheating to me. How can she want the delegates when her two main competitors weren't even on the ballot? I will never vote for Mrs. Clinton, even if it means voting Republican in the general election.

Please, Republicans nominate Senator McCain!

newvoter2008-HoustonTX   January 26th, 2008 2:03 am ET

OBAMA 2008

INTEGRITY OR NOTHING.

newvoter2008-HoustonTX   January 26th, 2008 2:02 am ET

SHE WON'T GET MY VOTE AS A WOMAN, DEMOCRAT OR FOR BEING A WHITE AMERICAN. IF I WANTED BUSH IN A DEMOCRAT SUIT, I WOULD HAVE ASKED HIM TO PUT ON A DRESS AND RUN AGAIN.

Angie   January 26th, 2008 2:01 am ET

All of you in Florida and Michigan need to stop whining and blaming the candidates. It was YOUR STATE OFFICIALS that broke the party rules and in essence, made your voices mute. YOUR STATE OFFICIALS tried a power play that backfired and refused to back down. Why couldn't they wait until Super Tuesday like everyone else??? Heck, my state votes after Super Tuesday but you don't hear us whining about it. If you were so concerned about your votes counting, you should have contacted your state democratic party by the busloads months ago and demanded that they follow the party rules.

Maybe each state should be allowed to choose their own primary date, but that's not what the current regulations state. Not fair for a couple of states to be able to choose theirs, but for everyone else to have to play by the rules.

You really thing Hillary cares? She is just scrambling for more delegates. People in this country are more naive than I thought.

Ginny CA   January 26th, 2008 1:19 am ET

I, too, am wondering why the comment I posted at 5:30 pm and again at 11:35 pm was not posted. Will CNN please explain how you decide which comments to post and which to ignore?

"Democrat" Party   January 26th, 2008 1:07 am ET

Children, please. I am for Romney but please try to keep your party together enough so we can have a serious contest against your very best person later this year.

Biden, Dodd, Gravel, Kucinich or Richardson would be better than those in the "Democrat" Party who are still standing.

McCain is your only hope for a liberal at this point. Too bad so few of you took that option in Michigan.

Democrat in MO   January 26th, 2008 12:54 am ET

aisha January 25, 2008 11:28 pm ET

talk about integrity like if obama has any
HE PLAYS RACE CARD
HE BREAKS PARTY RULES
HE APPRECIATES REPUBLICANS
HE GETS 150,000 FROM RENZKO AND RETURNS ONLY 81,000
HE RUNS ADS AGAINST HILLARY IN NEVADA AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING
WHEN HE WAS AGAINST HILLARY IN IOWA FOR RUNNING ADS
HE TALKS ABOUT CHANGE OF WASHINGTON INTO CHICAGO SLUMLORD BUSSINESS OF HIS
—————————————————————————————————————–

You are simple minded to put it kindly …. people like you have no choice but to believe 1+1=3 when they are told that is true. Educate yourself … read a little bit on CNN, or have somebody help you with that.

THINK!

John   January 26th, 2008 12:29 am ET

Remember… any candidate who's not on the Primary ballot in Florida, can't stand for the General election in Florida either. None of the candidates could withdraw their names from the Florida ballots.

Hillary could have withdrawn from the Michigan ballot, but apparently "ran out of time"– which makes her comments about Obama's organizational skills look somewhat foolish.

It would have been insanely expensive of Obama to run a national ad "everywhere but Florida". Hillary could run ads too, as long as they're national. All three candidates who claim "Florida's vote is meaningless", well, they're certainly fundraising and taking money from Florida voters (including myself).

James Brown ( Independent )   January 26th, 2008 12:22 am ET

There's a huge difference between running a National ad that just happens to be ran in Florida because it is part of the Nation ( BOTH CLINTON AND OBAMA ) are running National ad's.

What Hillary is doing is wanting to keep the delegate's that the DNC took away.

Edwards , Obama , Clinton ALL agreed them Delegate's were no longer there.

Clinton is not to be trusted , her and her husband are both as dishonest as a crack head.

PDXNE   January 26th, 2008 12:14 am ET

I have always found it rather interesting that no one seems to be able to address the issue at hand, and that is that Hillary is just trying to get more delegates. I fail to see the difference between Obama running a national ad, on a national cable station and Hillary actually going down to Florida to campaign. Also no one seems to fault Edwards for pulling out of MI, yet he and Obama did it on the same day.

People can mud sling all they want, but the truth is that Hillary is playing Monopoly, making under the table deals, and trying to get as many properties as she can. Adding delegates to a state, after they were stripped, and the state voted would be cause for a revote, and then they would have their delegates counted. In all fairness this is up to the DNC, which made it very clear that they would have no delegates, and requested that all candidates drop out of those states. It doesn't matter if Obama ran a nationally broadcast commercial, and people in florida saw it, because they don't get any votes anyway. If the people of Florida want to complain, they should call their local Democratic Party, and tell them that they should have not cut in line.

Instead though, we squabble, and fight like siblings in the back of a car on a long road trip. Each thinks that the other started it, and it won't get us anywhere any faster, if anything it just makes the trip more miserable.

The DNC should stay strong, and stand by their decision, it is a matter of tradition. I also think they see right through Hillary's grab at Michigan ave. and Florida ave. If they do award their delegates back, they must hold an offical, DNC sanctioned primary, and if the DNC bends to the Clinton Hive Mind, I will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that our system is totally broken.

Linoq   January 26th, 2008 12:11 am ET

Again HRC is trying to "dig" her way to the top by change pre agreed rules. The question is: Will Howard Dean sucumb to this? If he does we can write off this one because he just sold his soul, and the price was very very cheap

Gene in Illinois   January 25th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

The Florida ads are not the first promise Obama has broken. He promised the voters of Illinois to finish his entire term here and not use his office as a platform to run for president. So far, we have not seen or heard from him too much as he has been busy breaking that promise!

aisha   January 25th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

talk about integrity like if obama has any
HE PLAYS RACE CARD
HE BREAKS PARTY RULES
HE APPRECIATES REPUBLICANS
HE GETS 150,000 FROM RENZKO AND RETURNS ONLY 81,000
HE RUNS ADS AGAINST HILLARY IN NEVADA AND NOBODY SAID ANYTHING
WHEN HE WAS AGAINST HILLARY IN IOWA FOR RUNNING ADS
HE TALKS ABOUT CHANGE OF WASHINGTON INTO CHICAGO SLUMLORD BUSSINESS OF HIS

aisha   January 25th, 2008 11:24 pm ET

there was no rule about taking ur name on or off the ballot .so obama and edwards even took thier names off and told thier voters to go and vote against hillary .rule was not to campaign as a punishment for party there so they done,t get extra revenue . but obama broke the campaign rule.and hillary is justified in asking for delegates . obama is crying because he knows he will loose there

mr.fair tax   January 25th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

GOOOO– ROMNEY!!–'WE CAN BEAT THE HILDA -BEST

Michelle   January 25th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

I am a white woman and I am asking the people of South Carolina to please protest dirty tricks and race baiting by voting for either Barack Obama or John Edwards on Saturday.

Please, my fellow Americans, please send a message to Hillary Clinton and Bubba Clinton that we want someone to bring us together. We were going along just fine and race was not an issue until Barack Obama won the Iowa Primary.

This is a planned strategy to turn Barack Obama into just another black man running for something.

PLEASE JUST SAY NO TO THE CLINTONS TACTICS BY VOTING FOR EITHER BARACK OBAMA OR JOHN EDWARDS.

PLEASE DO NOT PROVE HILLARY CLINTON AND BUBBA CLINTO RIGHT BY DOING WHAT SHE WANTS YOU TO DO BY VOTING FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE BECAUSE YOU THINK BLACKS ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS HALF BLACK.

IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WHITE PEOPLE CAME OUT AND VOTED FOR OBAMA OR EDWARDS TO SHOW THE RACE BAITERS THAT SOUTH CAROLINIANS HAVE GROWN PAST RACE BEING THE REASON FOR VOTING FOR A CANDIDATE. THAT WOULD STOP THEM FROM RACE BAITING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I PRAY YOU WILL VOTE FOR EITHER EDWARDS OR OBAMA.

Sandy   January 25th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

The tight race and incredible enthusiasm from Democrats have forced pundits and naysayers across the country to wake up and pay attention to the actual voters in Florida - not the intraparty dispute over delegates. Florida's 210 delegates will be seated at the national convention in August. U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, honorary chair of the convention; Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean; and former DNC Chairman Don Fowler of South Carolina have all said that, ultimately, the presidential nominee will decide who attends the convention.

Rodney Dallas TX   January 25th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

I think it's fantastic that she wants the delegates to count. The people of Michigan and Florida are being penalized because of crooked politicians. We have the right to vote and politicians are trying to take that away from Michigan and Florida. I think what the DNC did was illegal. I do not believe Hillary is being unreasonable for asking that the votes of the citizens in those states be counted. I vote and stand behind Hillary 110%.

brian   January 25th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Matt from Chicago,

Amen.

I hear he broke some promises to the people of Ilinois when he ran for US Senate too. I have relatives in LovesPark that tell me no one even wants to talk about him. He voted to shut down a child healthcare clinic and then when there was feedback about his vote he said he hadn't meant to vote that way and reversed his vote. He apparently has done that a few times. But we don't hear about these things on CNN. THey would rather report stupid tidbits about what Bill Clinton says or doesn't say.

GO for it, President Hillary!!!!!   January 25th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

She earned the delegates, she should count them………it's the other Democratic candidates' mistake if they didn't want their name on the ballot——it's their loss. NO DEMOCRATIC VOTE SHOULD BE DISENFRANCHISED by the Democratic Central Committee. Every one of those deligates should count. I am from ILLINOIS——we moved our Primary up to February 5th, also—"in order to help Obama, who is from Illinois, get ahead in the delegate count early on" (despite the fact that the only Obama supporters are in Chicago)……..downstate Illinois folks know Chicago politicians don't give a hoot about them…….the Democratic Central Committee DID NOT SANCTION ILLINOIS for moving our Primary up. Why???

Tina   January 25th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

CNN-

Why are you asking us to LEAVE YOUR COMMENT, if you are not going to post it.

My facts are correct and I had evidence to back them up, so what up? Just because they don't favor your favorite son, they should not be deleted. Everyone has an opinion and wants to be heard. Lack of Freedom of Speech at it's best, I guess.

e   January 25th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

I think if their delegates want to be counted they should have for real elections in their states, all names on the ballot, campaigning, the whole deal. Who know have it be after super Tuesday and they will get a big say to break the delegate tie we have had up til now.

Sandy   January 25th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

I live in florida and have seen Obamas add a few times. I never see any of the media saying anything about it. Had that been Hillary all Hell would have broke loose. I say if Obama wants his ad to run to get some votes than lets get our delegates seated since he wants to campaign here so bad.

Marti, FL   January 25th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Good for Hillary! I want our nominee to seat Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention. It would great for Obama and Edwards continue this trend with their own public appeals. Every vote deserves to be considered in such a critical election.

There also needs to be reforms implemented next year for the primary elections. We should have either a national primary date or rotating regions later in the year.

Bryant   January 25th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

The Clinton camp's opportunistic, self-serving ways seem an awful lot like our current administration…do we actually want to clean the house in Washington, or just change the sign over the door from "Republican" to "Democrat" while the same corruption goes on inside?

Bryant   January 25th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

When I first read this, I thought, "Hopefully no one will be stupid enough to actually fall for this." Then I read some of these posts from the brainwashed Hillary supporters and saw I was sadly mistaken.

She now CARES about Michigan and Florida? Has it ever occured to you to ask why she didn't say this last year when the DNC originally decided to strip those states of delegates in the first place? Oh yeah, because it didn't HELP HER at that time!!! Now that she was the only candidate to leave her name on the Michigan ballot and–suprise!–win (but only 55% of the vote while running virtually unopposed…hmmm…), she suddenly wants them reinstated.

Have you Clinton-disciples not paid attention to Nevada, where the DNC, with everyone's agreement–including Hillary's camp–decided to set up extra caucuses along the Las Vegas strip? Then, RIGHT AFTER the Culinary Union announced it was supporting Obama, Hillary's supporters sued to have those caususes removed, in an attempt to disenfranchise those same union workers?

Wake up, people…Hillary's the one major candidate who can BLOW this for the Democrats and ensure we continue the same government dishonesty and greed which has spiraled out of control over the past 8 years. (Of course, if Hillary faces McCain, I'm actually not sure people could tell which one represents which party!)

Cathy   January 25th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

HILLARY NEVER SIGNED a PLEDGE to remove her name from MICHIGAN"S Ballot. And by the way, all 3 are on the Florida Ballot. But, OBAMA like the other 2 did SIGN a PLEDGE not to campaign in FLORIDA. Last I heard on planet NIMROD, blasting commericals ALL DAY (and I do mean ALL DAY) on CNN and MSNBC is considererd CAMPAIGNING!!! If you want to chew on something you fake self righteous (people who probably voted for BUSH) CHEW ON THAT! Obama does NOT HONOR his WORD!

Sandy   January 25th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

All 3 candidates had the oppurtunity to leave theiir names on the Michigan ballotts.
How horrible for the Michigan voters who wanted to vote for Obama or Edwards and they went and pulled themselves off the Ballott. That to me says they don't care. Maybe people wanted to vote even if the DNC said they don't count.Why is it Hillarys fault that the other 2 chose to pull their names. Its not playing mean or underhanded. It was a smart thing to do to leave your name on the ballott. As far as Florida goes the delegates will probably be seated at the convention. MSNBC said last night that they suspect that they will be seated. Look Florida is just to big to IGNORE in an Election that is making history. I can tell you if its a close race I'm sure all of the nominees will want the Florida delegates to put them into the General.
The Florida voters aren't standing for this. They want their voices to be heard. It is their right. The Democratic Party for Florida has appealed that decision and are awaiting answer. Now that Hillary is appealing it the others should also. Why wouldn't all the democratic nominees want Florida voters to be heard. That is what America is all about. Its about the people not the stupid rules of the DNC.
Obama and Edwards should back Hillary on this or the voters wont forget when the General rolls around.

OBAMA MAMA Twin Cities, MN   January 25th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

What a whinner!!!!! Billary supporter said Obama was "whining" when he stood up for himself against the Billary tag-team. But I have heard nothing BUT whinning from Billary and it continues….

Billary complained after IA that "Iowa doesent historicly pick the nominee"
Billary complained after NH that "how can Hillary win when the media doesnt pay attention to her" and Obamas antiwar record is a "fairytale" etc…
Billary complained that in NV voters were being supressed (come to find out it was the Clintons that were suppressing them)
AND NOW Billary is complained that "Hillary cant win SC because the AfricanAmericans are all voting for Obama (not true, there are plenty of AfricanAmericans voting for Billary but since they cant stop themselves from making more race baiting comments like that they might lose them too).

I guess Billary is desperate for every delagate they can get. Including ones that everyone else agreed they werent going to use. Billary cares about MI, when it benifits their campagian. They didnt even bother to campaign there but somehow they CARE about MI. Most Dems didnt even vote because they knew it didnt count.

Maybe if she starts to cry again the Dem National Comm will give in to her.

Obama 08

bret Jennings   January 25th, 2008 9:40 pm ET

I have never voted Republican and I am really starting to think I would vote for Muck Hickleberry before I vote for Hillary. I WONT do it. She has NO integrigity. And for the record, when the campaign began I was leaning toward her.

Bean Counter, Motor City, MI   January 25th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Of course Hillary wants the Michigan delegates seated. She got more. Of course Barack doesn't want them because he didn't get any - although he would probably get all the "uncommitted"

They already did damage by taking away all of our delegates. Then to add insult to injury Barack took his name off the ballot. I can't wait to see these jerks come crawling back to us saying "we really like you even though we totally ignored you in January". Why anybody in this state would ever consider voting for one of them in November is beyond me. Thank you to Romney, McCain and Huckabee for treating this state like it still matters.

Now if we could just get the mayor of Detroit to leave…

Nathan   January 25th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

Su"re I was the only major candidate on the ballot because I broke my word when we all agreed to take our names off, but I want the delegates because every vote should count."

brian   January 25th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

All you Obama supporters:

YOu are all hypocrits! I don't hear any of you condenming your candidate for breaking the pledge he signed not to run TV ads in Florida. But that's okay right? It's Obama and he can do no wrong with you people. Just like he can do no wrong with the media. Why are we not hearing anything about that from the mainstream media. ALL I HEAR IS HILLARY THIS, BILL THAT, BUT NOTHING ON OBAMA EXCEPT HIS PREACHING. AS FAR AS THIS VOTER IS CONCERNED HE BROKE A PROMISE TO HIS PARTY AND HE BROKE HIS PROMIS TO ME.

Beth   January 25th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

As I stated before Im from Florida and I see Obamas add all the time..He didnt play by the rules first

Mary (CA)   January 25th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Please people, vote for ANYBODY besides Hillary! Where does her sense of entitlement come from?! She really believes the American people are idiots and can't connect the dots from her web of lies. I guess if she is the democratic nominee it means the majority of the democratic voters are idiots. Hillary no better than George Bush.

Beth   January 25th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Im in Florida I want my voice heard!!!

Cathy   January 25th, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Barack Obama is a cheat! I am sorry, I live in Florida and all week I kept seeing Obama commercials on CNN and MSNBC. I could not understand why HILLARY did not have any commercials and he did. So then I read from the DNC that all candidates PLEDGED that they would NOT campaign in Florida. Yet I saw all these commercials. I called the Obama and Clinton campaigns to find out what is going on. All I get from the Obama camp is that this is a National Ad. Oh please, like they did not know that they would air in Florida?? Please let me know if right now ads are airing in states that already had their primaries. I bet they are not! Obama knows this is happening, yet does nothing to pull the ads. Bottom line, Obama signed a Pledge. Obama broke that Pledge. Obama did not honor his pledge, and that makes me wonder what kind of honor does he have?

Jermaine   January 25th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

JOHN MCCAIN AND HILLARY ON THE SAME TICKET, LEET US SEE HOW FAR THAT GOES.

WHERE IS AL GORE, OBAMA NEEDS YOUR ENDORSEMENT GORE

OBAMA-GORE 08′

aisha   January 25th, 2008 9:09 pm ET

OBAMA IS GOING TO LOOSE SO BAD IN FLORIDA
HE STARTED ADS IN NATIONAL TV IN FLORIDA
WHICH IS AGAINST THE RULES
HE CAN BREAK ALL THE LAWS AND GET AWAY WITH IT

Mart from Chicago   January 25th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

OMG… u pro-Obama-ers thought Obama was a saint to pull out Michigan ballot. Now he has a campaign ad and also didnt pull out in Florida's ballot, and you dare to say Hillary's a hypocrite by asking the Dems party to consider putting delegates in MI and FL… And Dave, national ad or not, the pact with the DNC was that no campaign ads are allowed in MI and FL… and they all agreed. Anyways, you pro-Obama-ers are to blinded by your hatred and ignorance… and you all are hypocrites to bash Hillary back in MI… Obama's doing the same thing in FL and you all cant stop defending him. And to James Brown ( Independent ), its beyond me why anyone would vote for Obama…

aisha   January 25th, 2008 9:08 pm ET

OBAMA BROKE THE RULES FIRST BY PLAYING ADS IN FLORIDA
BY RULES NO CANDIDATE CAN CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA AND MI
BUT HE IGNORED AND WENT AHEAD

joe   January 25th, 2008 9:00 pm ET

@Marg
I don't know why they aren't posting my comments either…

why shouldn't florida and michigan count?   January 25th, 2008 8:29 pm ET

why shouldn't florida and michigan count? and wouldn't the obama sheep be singing a different tune if counting florida and michigan voters were to their benefit?

Kathy   January 25th, 2008 8:11 pm ET

This is disgusting. Does anyone actually think Hillary didn't have this up her sleeve all along? Very convenient that she leaves only her name on the ballot and NOW suddenly wants the delegates to count? If her name had been off the ballot and Obama had left his on and he displayed this little integrity, she would scream that he was changing the rules in the middle of the game.

Ashes   January 25th, 2008 7:59 pm ET

I'm glad someone is trying to get those states their delegates back. It's unnerving to me that thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people will not have a vote in the primaries. It's not their fault the date got moved.

Personally, I just wish all states had primaries on the same day with a private vote.

Dave   January 25th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

What part about "national ad" do the Clintons not get? I mean, sheesh, it's not like it's only a Florida-based ad. We're getting picky when we demand that national ads be "national-except-michigan-and-florida" ads. Hillary has some growing up to do…

Sue, Michigan   January 25th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Her concern and her integrity are in place. She kept her name on the ballot, or we would have all voted Republican-it was an open primary. The fact that so many people chose Hillary or "uncommitted" says a lot. We are angry with the DNC for disenfranchising us, either by not seating our delegates, or by not allowing us to choose a date for our primary. Just who decided that Iowa and NH are more important than Michigan? Bu the time we would have been 'allowed" to vote, AFTER Feb. 5, who would have cared?
And may I point out that the economy here has been bad for a long while, and it took getting some candidates into Michigan to get the economy on the national radar screen. You're all welcome!

Dave   January 25th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

I am really disturbed by the ignorant people who think that Obama and Edwards were purposely disenfranchising the voters of Michigan and Florida. The elected officials of those two states broke the DNC's rules, and it should be considered that Obama and Edwards stood up for their party. If the DNC does not uphold its promise, I will be very disheartened because that says "Alright, guys, our rules don't mean anything and you might as well break them and schedule your primary in December."

I think many Michiganders (correct demonym?) and Floridanians (probably wrong?) should be mad and are mad at their state's elected officials who disenfranchised them. Clinton is just trying to squeeze out some votes, which is remarkably similar to her "I will divide, tear up, and bury this country alive, but I will win!" campaign style. And don't even get me started on some person who says Obama is an empty suit without going to his website and clicking the "Issues" tab.

I explored both candidates' views objectively as an independent voter and my choice is indeed the Change (with a capital C) that we need in Washington.

Lee   January 25th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

She WAS concerned and left her name on the ticket as she wanted the michigan people to have a voice.

HRC Appeal to the DNC   January 25th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

Hillary’s appeal reads as follows;
“Had I known then what I know now I wouldn’t have agreed.”

Tran   January 25th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Hillary is THE BEST. We need her now for our country.

Mike   January 25th, 2008 7:17 pm ET

“Had I known then what I know now, I wouldn’t have voted for it.”

This is what she is going to be saying next to justify her incompetence or did she not read the rules as they were set out to make the determination that Michigan and Florida wasn’t being counted

Ed,Ellenville,New York   January 25th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

It certainly is nice to read that the Clinton haters are so poorly educated and hatefully ignorant. The majority of americans are obviously much smarter.

alex@uga.edu   January 25th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

GaryO Virginia Beach— Grow up! A national ad cannot be taken out of a single state. Affirmative action- Dude get a life if you really think that the only reason anyone- woman, man– is ahead because of their race or gender.

Why did Hillary keep her name in the Michagan ballot? Even though 45 percent of electorate elected against her, this is again a show that HRC are nothing but vile for the democrats.

pink slipper   January 25th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

you won't consider her your president. good…leave this country. jerk.

pink slipper   January 25th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

go go go hillary. i will vote for you.

Florida for Hillary   January 25th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

I have a lot of friends in Florida/Michigan and whether or, not delgates are awarded….they feel neglected.
We are told that "our vote counts" our whole lives…now we are told it's a lie.
It doesn't hurt to keep your name on a ballot…John and Barack should have kept their names on in MI…even if it didn't count for anything.
Thanks to Hillary for at least sticking with us.

Emily   January 25th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

Ms. Clinton is the only one who respected the people of Michigan and Florida enough to keep her name on the ballots in defiance of the democratic party's ruling. The voters had no choice in what happened but their voices deserve to be heard!

Both Obama and Edwards will no doubt cry foul as will their followers because this will indeed give Hillary more delegates. However, this was their choice and it was a very bad one. The party played a very heavy hand in doling out ridiculous penalties just because they wanted to push their weight around. No state should be at their mercy when it comes to deciding when they want to hold their primarys/caucuses.

Marti, FL   January 25th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Good for Hillary! I wanted to believe our nominee would seat Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention. It would great to see Obama and Edwards continue this trend with their own public appeals. No state deserves to be disenfranchised in such a critical election where our country can ill afford another Bush in office.

There also needs to be serious reforms implemented next year at the primary level. We should have either a national primary date or rotating regions later in the year before this situation gets more out of control, and we end up with primaries in December next time.

While they’re at it, our presidents should be decided by popular vote IMHO.

Sandy Griffith   January 25th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

Obama has the most integrity of all the Democratic candidates. John Edwards is also a very good man from what I see. I would like the two of them to be on the ticket together. I would feel very good about them running the country.

Hilary Clinton quite frankly doesn't care about being liked. She seems to have lost her soul a long time ago. It must have been really messed up for her living in this public political life for so many years because she is as souless, ice cold and unmoved as a dead body floating up the river. Her kind of dishonest and inhumane leadership is old school. This country is screaming for some honesty, life, some spirit, some excitement!

I believe America will make the right choice in the end. It's really our decision.

Ice Witch or Realness, Honesty, Change and Integrity.

It's an easy choice to make!

Anti Clintons   January 25th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

Mi and Fl broke the rules, now everyone pays, plain and simple. So what Clinton says or does is irrevelant.

It is to bad that egos got in the way with these two states.

Obama 08!

Brian   January 25th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

I'm a Florida Democrat and let me make one thing clear……… I will NEVER vote for this Monarchy…. 20 years enough!

Sarah-Jane   January 25th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

DOES ANYONE NEED FURTHER PROOF THAT THE CLINTONS CANNOT BE TRUSTED?

Here's a woman who levelled so much praise on Iowa's first-place. After she lost Iowa, she criticized the system and said Iowa has not produced Presidents.

I hope to see you here after the SC primary, when we'll be discussing her next spin on the results. This is an unscrupulous woman you couldn't trust to look after your dog. You nneded to watch the last Republican debate to know that she will never win the general election.

Robyn   January 25th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

Absolutely. As a Florida resident, I have the right to vote and have my vote count. I can't imagine that any of the candidates would object.

Trev   January 25th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

There was NOTHING in the agreement that required HRC to get off the ballot in Michigan. Obama is the one breaking the rules in Florida. Note the Hillary has not bought national airtime that will air in FL. She knows that she can wait until after the Florida primary, which is what Obama should have done. Obama does not sound much like a change candidate when he breaks the rules.

Oh, by the way, people need to study up on the allocation of delegates BEFORE they start shooting their mouths off about Michigan and Florida. Florida and Michigan political insiders on the DEM side have been saying for months that they expected to have their delegates seated at the convention. They took a strategic risk to break the IA and NH monopoly on early contests. The risk may have been worth taking because MI and FL will be key battleground states in Novemeber. Candidates who ignore Michigan now do so at their own peril in November when the Michigan vote will count. HRC appears to be the only DEM who could win those two states in the genral election. How soon the Obama groopies forget the 2000 election.

Lou Marrow   January 25th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

I completely agree!!!! As a veteran FL voter, I want my say in this Presidential election, especially since the media is giving obama a free ride! Where the democracy

DB   January 25th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Michigan has a clause that if 15% of the percent vote was uncommitted the delegates can vote for who ever the wanted.

Bravo to Edwards and Obama who rightfully removed their names from the ballots. She is trying to steal the nomination making rules as she goes. If they do seat the delegates I think I may lose all faith in government.

Our citizens may be deceived for awhile, and have been deceived; but as long as the presses can be protected, we may trust to them for light.
- Thomas Jefferson

tomdavie   January 25th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

I find it so amazing that people are horrifyingly RUDE on these boards.

The woman just wants the people in michigan and floridas voice to be heard.

The people of those states had no say in this democratic party rulings.

To ryan in New Jersey..

……….he says :

……..This isn't about voters being allowed to vote, this is about Hillary winning no matter what it takes!! This is a party primary, not a constitutionally mandated vote!! There's no voter disenfranchisement here! The party decided to discipline those states months ago and everyone agreed they wouldn't count, now all of a sudden she wants to change the game? Unbelievable!!……….

So let me get this straight. You think that the voters in Michigan and Florida ARENT ALLOWED TO HAVE A SAY IN WHO BECOMES THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

They just get to vote on whoever they are SPOON FED as the nominee in november.

The Democratic party will NEVER live it down if they exclude two states from being part of the democratic convention . It will go down in INFAMY in american politics.

The republicans will MOCK the democratic party of not being very DEMOCRATIC now wont they?

Does anyone ever think of the LONG TERM effects of this crap ????

You Obama people are OUT OF CONTROL .

Bill   January 25th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

Disgusting!!!
Please stop her!!!

Former Clinton Family Supporter, Saint Paul MN   January 25th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

I am absolutely furious with Hillary Clinton for this DISPICABLE effort to SCAM the country!!!!

She is trying to steal delegates! She pretends to respect the DNC's punishments of Michigan and Florida. Then, once she wins the state (because she's the only one on the ballot), she flip-flops and says the delegates should be counted!!

I don't care how much someone LOVES the Clintons…. If you Hillary supporters can't see this for the SICKENING deception it is, then you aren't being honest with yourselves!

This woman will say and do ANYTHING to get elected!

People keep telling me that "we're all Democrats" and we shouldn't talk badly about the other candidate, but after this, there is NO WAY I will support Clinton, if she is the nominee!

pam Eugene OR   January 25th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

Give it a rest Hillary. We all know why you want their votes counted. No one ran in Michigan but you! Everyone else was a person of honor and did what the DNC agreed to do. But not you Shrillary…you are above the rules and if you don't like them you will take your own party to court. Please don't even try to make us believe you want what is best for the voters. We all know you only want what is best for you.

Jake, California   January 25th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

Is she trying to get the Latino vote from Florida? It's too late madam…you can beat the rules just because you want it your way. America is a democratic and lawful nation…and that's how it will operate.

Gobama   January 25th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

DON'T BE FOOLED!
CLINTONS CARE ONLY ABOUT THEMSELVES!

The Democratic Party (which includes Florida and Michigan) had to have an ORDERLY Primary season.
Michigan and Florida decided to introduce disorder into the Primary System and had to pay a penalty by the Democratic Party, which includes Florida and Michigan!

It's that simple: Break the rules and be penalized!
Break the rules of the democratic process and be penalized.

Do Florida and Michigan not believe in the democratic process of THEIR National Democratic Party?

Amy   January 25th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

WELL CLINTON, HERE WE GO AGAIN!

A Clinton going back on promises and their word. Aren't you sick of this yet? Obama '08

Bryan   January 25th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

So you all are looking for an "Honest" president?
Ha Ha Ha

pattyk   January 25th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

I, also live in Michigan. Thanks to our Governor and Michigan officials who are openly in support of Hillary Clinton and who were warned IN ADVANCE by the National Dems, that changing the primary date would negate delegates, the Governor signed off on the changed date. This action resulted in only Clinton on the Dem ballot. Disenfranchised voters voted undecided as a protest that their candidate was eliminated from the ballot. These are the voices that wanted to be heard. Because of what now seems like another Clintonian trick and a governor very possibly complicit in such, whether knowingly or out of shear stupidity, results of the Michiga primary are NOT a accurate portrayal of the votes of Michiga citizens. Hillary stayed on the ballot knowing this would be so. Please, we were scammed, by what sure looks like a Clinton manipulation. Shame on Michigan officials.

r sisk, nevada   January 25th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Good for you Hillary!!!! The DNC needs to take a good look at their rules and realize that penalizing states because they want to schedule a primary on such and such a date is stupid. Why don't we rotate states having the first-5th primaries and after that who cares what order they are in? That way, eventually every state will host the first primary and be in the front