Comments on: Clinton, Obama campaigns play expectations game

By: lcb

lcb — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:54:58 +0000

I am very disappointed that as a tax paying Floridian my vote will not count. Having said that I am so very upset that the media spends so much time in spinning things and not helping the public by allowing equal destruction of campaigns. For some reason the Obama camp is being portrait as the next coming. I don't understand how Americans are flocking like mindless sheep to a candidate that has no substance but wonderful written speeches about "hope", and moving forward past the establishment. Yet he loves the establishment (the long term senators and politicians he is vowing to change) endorsing him. I don't know what you Obamanites are trying to sell, but I am not buying. I have had enough of inexperienced politicians. Seven years of Bush (which I recall also spoke of hope and change) is enough for me. Give me substance and guts, action and experience...Someone that will not be manipulated, or whine, or act childish, or complain about every thing. Someone, please, quickly, explain to Obama it's a primary, it's not about him it's about The United Sates of America. Get over yourself!

By: Sherry

Sherry — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:59:35 +0000

Since when does the DNC speak for Florida? Just because our primary was moved up by one week does not mean we should lose our democratic delegate votes! What the hell kind of a scam is this? I think Gov. Christ should correct this!!

By: Mike J.

Mike J. — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:40:30 +0000

Barak Obama needs to look at how he one SC.From what i can see he needs to give it up now.If he does get the nod we will have another republican for four more years and that will hurt america.America needs a doer not a talker.We have alot of preachers in america we dont need one running the country.Hillary will listen to america and not her self unlike Obama and do what she is asked.Everyone knew what was going to happen in SC and so did the talker and he knew this was his audience and they would listen to his bs.Listen to what he says.He will join the two parties together.What a joke.Republican and Demicrats only come together when its an emergancy.Hillay Clinton is the person for america and it is time for america to back her.I challange the american people to vote on super tuesday For Hillary Clinton and make it more of a desisive win then Obamas so called win in SC.

Mike J.
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: observer

observer — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:17:31 +0000

Regardless of delegates in Fla. or Mich. the people there are voters and will have to live with whoever is elected. Hillary shows that she is a candidate of the people by making a showing there. Shame on the other candidates for only counting the people of a state by the delegates they represent. Obama preaches "unity" yet there is no unity without delegates? Go Hillary, show them a TRUE candidate of All people,,how honorable!

By: Hugh

Hugh — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:45:45 +0000

Kandace, Clinton will need MUCH more than Navada and New Hampshire to win also...what's your point? Apparently Clinton and Edwards thought Obama wouldn't win that's why they spent Hundreds of Thousands of dollars in the state. They thought they had a chance to win...again, what's your point?

By: Jake, California

Jake, California — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:14:41 +0000

Hillary, no! We'll simply not have elections in Florida. No that the people of that states aren't important. It's just that you want to be the winner going into Super Tuesday, well you can compete against yourself there and win 'NOBODY' again so you can have a lot of winning records... I fear this woman might become like Britney Spears!

By: Tyler in Raleigh

Tyler in Raleigh — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:57:19 +0000

I love that Clinton and her obnoxious supporters claim that Obama is breaking rules by running a CNN ad that will air nationally, including Florida.

Yet it is CLINTON that WANTS TO BREAK THE RULES!!!

MI and FL do not count. Not becuase of Obama, nor any other candidate. The states are to blame for costing their people their voice. They broke the DNC rules and moved the elections up when they were told not to. Now the people want to complain, well STOP BLAMING THE CANDIDATES AND BLAME THE PEOPLE N YOU STATE THAT DECIDED TO BREAK THE RULES.

The Slick HILLBILLY comes along and wants to change the rules after the fact to suit their needs. They tried in Nevada to ban caucas sites that might hurt them AFTER IT WAS AGREED TO MONTHS BEFORE. Now she wants MI and FL to count AFTER SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE IN MI ON THE BALLOT!!!

How is that for breaking rules? She did not stay on the ballot because she wanted MI voters to have a voice.... she did it to claim victory in a race that does not count and where there are no opponents. Even then, she wont 55% against NO ONE. Not a resounding victory that shows how little support she has in the state.

Now FL.... all to claim another win... what next, she declares there are a dozen new states in the US that also voted for her??

By: George from Minneapolis

George from Minneapolis — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:07:53 +0000

as an african american male for bill to imply that the main reason blacks will vote for obama is because he is black is an insult. tjhe clinton campaign know exactly what they are doing, basically saying to whites "blacks are for obama so you whites should be with us."

i will laugh daily till my stomach hurts if hillary wins the democratic nomination then loses to a republican in the general election. i for one will vote for a republican if obama is not in the general election.

america will deserve another term of a republican president if it allows hillary to win the nomination after which the democratic party will come crawling back to obama to save it.

why go through all of that when you can elect the best candidate NOW..

Barack Obama

By: Susan

Susan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:39:14 +0000

The Clintons are racists. They play the race card or any card to win..pure and simple. It's time WE THE PEOPLE said NO to the Bush/Clinton dynasty. We are not a third world country where only certain families have presidential powers. This is America..we deserve better!

By: Jeffim, Miami, Fl

Jeffim, Miami, Fl — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:36:18 +0000

Obamanites, enjoy your victory in SC.
It's a last one you gonna celebrate!

By: dolly broughton

dolly broughton — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:34:57 +0000

I'm voting for Hillary because she's smart a good leader and manger and knows how to get the job done and get it done right.

By: Darrell

Darrell — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:33:31 +0000

The Clinton's are running scared and will use any scare tactic or tell any lie to try to get back in the white house.

By: hillabeans

hillabeans — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:32:46 +0000

She has no respect for the LAWS already on the books in this country,starting with IMMIGRATION LAWS.The law is very clear, but she doesnt think they should be inforced.She needs the Illegal votes to win,so that makes it ok?

By: EmmyG

EmmyG — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:30:34 +0000

Of course Obama will win. He played the race card solidifying the black voting block in SC against Hillary Clinton. How could he not win? But, he did it in a very divisive way–so much for the politics of hope.

By: Linda

Linda — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:28:36 +0000

I disagree with all of you. It appears to me that Obama's camp seems to twist things around and make it look like the Clintons are doing something wrong. They are campaigning to win and if that means that Bill has to show up for an event he will. If he didn't you would all be saying he wasn't supporting his wife. Give me a break! It amazes me that it is okay for Obama's wife to campaign and say what she wants but, if Bill does its a major crisis. Furthermore, I feel that Obama is playing the race card in SC and I find it to be offensive. He acts all innocent but, I feel he has a hidden agenda and don't support his actions. Also, I find it rather ironic that after Pres. Clinton raised questions about the way people were being treated in Nevada elections that suddenly Obama's camp is filing an investigation against the Clintons and saying they were doing something wrong. Amazing!!! That is ridiculous since, they were held by the union Obama was endorsed by. PLEASE! Sounds a little suspicious to me. Lastly, I just want to say that if you look past all the hype around Obama you will see he is NOT the one to be our next President. GO HILLARY!!!

By: Phineas

Phineas — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:28:22 +0000

Kandace, you may recall that as little as a month ago Senator Clinton held a wide lead in South Carolina. The fact of each candidate's race and gender was never an explicit part of the primary campaigns until Senator Clinton realized she would need to rely on the women's vote to recover after her 3rd place showing in Iowa. After using her "crying moment" to great effect just before the NH primary, Clinton realized that she could capitalize on both her gender and Senator Obama's race to reclaim the white women voters who favored Obama in Iowa. While I believe the African American vote will be consistent for Obama, I do not think that the white vote will continue to break so overwhelmingly for Clinton and Edwards as it is predicted to in the deep south of South Carolina.

By: charlee

charlee — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:24:18 +0000

she said the delegates should be able to sit in at the convention because they will be needed for the General election, she never said they should be awarded. Now who's distorting the facts. The delegates will be needed in the General election for whomever is the party's nominee.

By: Jake

Jake — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:24:01 +0000

Barak needs to get out of the race and let Hillary do her thing! He's screwing things up for a potential winner.

By: John, Milwaukee, WI

John, Milwaukee, WI — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:23:20 +0000

Everyone running will do ANYTHING to get ELECTED!

The DNC should NOT deprive anyone for any reason of their right to vote and have it count!

By: observer

observer — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:22:05 +0000

One thing for sure, should Hillary win the nomination, Obama Will support her, and should Obama win, Hillary Will support him. That is being true to your party and each will do that and encourage everyone else to do the same.

By: Joyce Newman

Joyce Newman — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:22:04 +0000

Agreed Obama will win SC, but remember that will be a great shift because the Clintons have the greatest affinity to the black community before now. Bill Clinton was not referred to the "Blackest President of America"

Let be sincere, if Obama wins SC, it has nothing to do with the color of his skin, if he wins, he earned those votes. Before the Iowa caucus, HRC was leading in SC, everything changed after Iowa results.

Another thought, I do not think any of the Democratic candidates will win enough delegates to win the party's nomination. This is going to a broker covention and I see Edward going to be a king maker here.

By: Texan

Texan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:15:26 +0000

Way to go Obama. Disenfranchise a large group of voters that should be allowed to stand up and be counted. Obama should be fighting for these delegates and not blatantly and publicly against them. This is a HUGE group of Democrats that will remember this in the general election. Kudos to Senator Clinton for actually fighting for the "people of America", and not just spouting empty promises about Hope.
Oh and by the way Robert, Obama tried to add his name BACK to the ballot in Michigan, but it was to late.

By: Chance

Chance — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:15:00 +0000

What is slimy about Hillary having her name on all of the ballots? Those that do not want to vote for her have the option not too. They didn't in Michigan, 98% of the ppl that voted for her (55%) said they would've done so even if Obama/Edwards on the ballot. She is winning this thing anyway, look at the national polls. Why must she follow suit of Barack and John's choices?

By: Obama 08

Obama 08 — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:10:27 +0000

Kandace asks who thought Obama wouldn't win SC. Answer? Everyone a few weeks ago. Remember when the complaint was that he wasn't "black enough"? Remember when pundits said, "Ok, he has proven he can get the white vote in Iowa, but the real test remains whether African Americans will support him." At that time, Clinton was heavily favored by that democratic and led in South Carolina. This expectations game is demoralizing. The media and the Clintons keep raising the bar for Obama. First they said he'll never win Iowa, it's an all-white state. Well, he won by the largest margin among the Democratic primaries to date. Then it became unimportant that he came in such a narrow second in New Hampshire against the "incumbant" Clinton because the real test would be whether he could convince black voters that he was for real. Despite winning the most delegates in Nevada because of white voters, and despite his strong showings in New Hampshire and Iowa, suddenly the conventional wisdom is, "Oh, sure, he'll win South Carolina because half of the voters are black, but once white people vote on Super Tuesday he'll be out of it." Doesn't ring true for me. Three states down, small black populations in each of those three states, and Obama is ahead. Forget managing expectations, Obama is proving again and again that he is a WINNER!

By: Amber

Amber — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:10:15 +0000

I bet that if Obama was ahead in Florida she wouldn't be saying this. Billary will only do something if it benefits them in the long run.

By: lee

lee — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:08:52 +0000

The Billary Bullies Strike Again!!!!

By: Grace, Overland Park, Kansas

Grace, Overland Park, Kansas — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:57:19 +0000

Kandace, is your memory completely short-term? clinton was leading in south carolina by double digits merely a month ago. in fact, she was burying obama in new hampshire and nevada too. the only place where he was semi-competitve was in iowa. the fact that he managed to overcome such huge odds to make this a very competitive race is AMAZING. this should have been a CAKEWALK for her given the huge margins that she enjoyed since the beginning of the campaign.

and if sen. clinton wins the nomination, the republicans will be quite giddy. they are eager to demolish her – and unlike obama, they will not have the decency to hold back. this is going to be a very interesting election.

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:22:53 +0000

Clinton seems like the kid on the playground who tries to change the rules when they aren't winning. I think it is slimy that she is flip-flopping on her commitment to stay out of the Florida primary. It already seemed like a third world dictatorship having only one person on the ballot in Michigan. Why wouldn't she take her name off? She is trying to have everything both ways.

I think people are starting to see that the Clinton's will do anything, regardless of the consequences to their party or our country to get elected.

By: California

California — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:02:12 +0000

Democrats should certainly take "deep pause" if the Clintons are going to throw out the rules and do anything to win. What she has done in Florida and Michigan should be tremendous cause for concern. There is no democratic process being followed in these states. Some might expect this from Republicans, but Democrats? I guess this is what we get when the Clintons get involved.

By: Kandace

Kandace — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:57:30 +0000

Obama is clearly gonna win SC, but who thought he wouldn't? I find it humorous that ppl think we needed the Clintons to "remind" us who the black candidate in this race is. It was obvious from the start who the black candidate was...did anyone forget that Obama was black? LOL, I don't think so. But I'll say, Obama is gonna need MUCH more than SC to win his party.

By: rubin

rubin — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:33:55 +0000

Re making Fla's delegates count: It's just like the Clintons to want to change the rules once the game's underway.

By: Vincent

Vincent — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:27:41 +0000

How come every time Barack Obama is called on his record, past votings, and statements he as made, he doesn't address it and continues to call them attacks? I have not decided on a candidate, but he is starting to make my decision easier. Hillary!!!!!

I would love to see Obama answer the questions and stand up for what he is called on. If he doesn't start doing that, it is clear who will get the nomination.

No news media seems to bringing this point up!!!!

By: lc

lc — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:18:44 +0000

Its no big deal if Obama wins SC because of the black vote!!

Why is the media and the CLINTONS getting away with downplaying the significance of the black vote? (I understand the negative spin the Clintons are and will make of it.)

But they would not be able to get away with it if the media adequately applauds Obama for capturing the black vote in SC. They were there to remind us when he did not overwhelmingly have the black vote in the beginning. After Iowa, didn't the pundits say Obama has proven that he could win the white vote and now he has to prove if he can win the black vote before SC? So why all of a sudden is him winning the black vote NEGATIVE?

Why is it a bad thing if Obama wins SC because of the BLACK vote?

There was NO negative spin when Hillary won New Hampshire because of the WHITE WOMAN'S VOTE!!!!!

All of our votes are equal and one vote should not have more political significance than the other.

I think CNN and the rest of the media outlets have a responsibilty to stop allowing these racial and derrogatory comments and dismissals go unchecked. And it needs to be highlighted at a time other than MIDNIGHT when the minority analyst are only heard by those with insomnia. There should be blogs highlighting the issue and the Clintons should be called on the carpet.

By: tim

tim — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:16:14 +0000

You failed to mention that Obama is running TV time in Florida .Again its alright for Obama to do anything he wants because he is black but if Clinton or Edwards does anything then the press is right on .And when they defend theirselves then they are playing dirty politics .CNN should be called the FOX annex .They are more like them every day .

By: UrbanHillbilly

UrbanHillbilly — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:13:41 +0000

The bitter fight with the Clintons will only help Obama come November.

By: earl illingsworth

earl illingsworth — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:11:38 +0000

The ultimate warriers from S.C.'s vote will be dueling for Super Tuesday, believe me, and their will be no prisoners taken! Obama desparately needs to reach out to the hispanic vote,( definitely a challenge) in order to marginalize Hillary in New York , New Jersey is fair game. Please take no offense folks, but these "ARK'S are CARPET-BAGGER'S, and conveniently set up shop in a welcomed setting! Now back to Florida where nothing counts(or never has,just kidding)! Both will reach out to the hispanic vote, and give their best. If Obama stays on message, which I suspect he will, Hillary will have her work cut out for her,and that means unleashing ,"Mad Dog", Bill !!! Let's touch the gloves and get it on!!!!

By: SOS

SOS — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:00:59 +0000

Where is the Clinton's integrity? This election is not just about Bill and Hillary scoring a victory–this is about America, American's and the future of this country in the world's eyes. Do we want to show the world this is what we stand in this country-do everything and anything to get what you want? How can anyone trust these people to take over our country? I hope Americans are reading these articles and realizing that winning is nothing if you lose your soul and integrity doing it.

Please America, just say NO to the Clintons.

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:52:41 +0000

Obama, can not talk about the Clintons. Due, to he and his spouse have a few dirty plates on table. Last year in August his wife started big attachs on Hillary Clinton. Hilliary played cool by not responding. Also, Mr Edwards was involved on same. After Bill started to support his wife then Obama, started to cry the blues. The Clintons, have not said one word about his wife. Folks, lets balance the check book on both side. If he think the Clintons, are playing dirty tricks. What will he do when they bring Karl Rove, out of retirement?

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:51:48 +0000

I am fed up with Obama acting as if he is some sort of victim–particularly heinous is his litany against the Clintons. His nastiness sounds as bad or worse than the smear politics from the far right over the last two decades. This kind of smear campaign in which he accuses the Clinton campaign of acting like the swift boat veterans and the like is NOT PRESIDENTIAL! All of you Obama people ought to ask him to stop these outrageous, exaggerated and divisive character attacks. It can only hurt the dem. party and Obama's chances. I, for one, will not vote for him, even if he wins the nomination, if he doesn't quit this stuff.

By: Clinton

Clinton — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:49:14 +0000

Games...that is exactly what this candidate is playing...with our COUNTRY!

By: The Real Ray

The Real Ray — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:39:20 +0000

How slimey are the Clintons?

Why after the Democratic Party decided not to allow Michigan and Florida to move their primaries up, did client leave her name on the ballot? All other Dems running removed there names with the exception of Hillary. How is this acceptable after she agreed with her party not to campaign in these states due to the rule laid out by her on party?

Now I truly see that the Clintons are above all rules and can't be trusted to follow their own agreement. How dare Hillary have the audacity to campaign in Florida when she agreed not to? How dare she try to clam a victory in Michigan when she agreed with her party that the votes would not count and of the 3 candidates remaining only her name was on the ballots in Michigan same for Florida. How can everyone else play by the DNC rules but the Clintons.

Now she wants the delegates to count in Florida eventhough her opponents are not on the ballot (are you serious)!!! I am sick and tired of the double standard that has been afforded to Hillary. Barack would not agree on such and issue, wait until no one else can challange and then try to claim victory with no opposition. She clearly is trying to win the 2 states uncontested. This should be a serious issue in everyone's mind. But if all goes as planned Hillary can sit back and say she won Michigan and Florida even after agreeing to the rules excluding these 2 states due to the states violating the order long established by the party, moving their primaries ahead of other states.

This is ridiculous and unacceptable...Truly UNAMERICAN!!!
It reminds me of what we are dealing w/ from W-YA and the rest of the current admistration (there are no rules and if there are rules they don't apply to us).

SICK!

By: Ayo

Ayo — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:38:03 +0000

If folks wonder why Hillary Clinton has highest number of negative reason, the spin coming from her campaign explained it. Lies upon lies...which one should we believe.

I have heard enough of this crazy spin coming from the Clinton's campaign. As far as i am concern Florida doesn't count.

By: Khwaty

Khwaty — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:37:47 +0000

Add to that, OBAMA WILL DO AND SAY ANYTHING TO WIN!

How come the media is not reporting Obama is running AD CAMPAIGN in Florida after making a PLEDGE like Hillary and my candidate Edwards?

OBAMA IS A CHEAT! AN OPPORTUNIST! HE DOESN'T DESERVE A SINGLE VOTE FROM ANYONE!

If he WILLINGLY broke a PLEDGE now, think what else he is going to break if he become a President?

Fortunately, he will NOT be the nominee of the Democratic Party, the people CAN see who is the REAL OBAMA and its NOT attractive.

By: Ano

Ano — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:34:22 +0000

" IT'S WORKING"! Read the posts and look at the evidence.
Some Republican people know how to BAIT, or use the Dems
to DIVIDE the Demoicrats, then set back and read the evidence.
They then laugh at US, knowing by the POSTS, when the DIVIDE is
working. Why DIVIDE? Well It's simple! DIVIDE is the tool you
use in POLITICS. The inter-net is the ideal venue for that Tool.

The other tool is MULTIPLY, as in advertisement. Millions of dollars
are spent daily to say the same thing over and over and over,
because IT WORKS. "BAIT", An enticement; a temptation,
for the purpose of selling stuff. designed to attract public attention
or patronage.

The Republican people read the news story about any candidate
looking for statements that can be used as "BAIT" to "DIVIDE".
Guess who gets the blame for it. "OUR CANDIDATES".
And who is the one laughing? The one that posted the bait.

When are we the Dems going to wise-up and do the same to them?

By: Khwaty

Khwaty — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:34:14 +0000

What is Obama complaining about this time? He BROKE a PLEDGE not to run an AD campaign in Florida.

I'm Edwards supporter, already voted for him. I find Obama a very conniving politician blaming Hillary for his OWN doing.

The American people are not dumb and stupid we can see through Obama.

Obama is the one who will DO ANYTHING to WIN.

By: joe

joe — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:32:44 +0000

IN REF. TO FLORIDA

OBAMA CAMPAIGN STATES IN ABOVE ARTICLE "...WHERE NO CAMPAIGNING HAS NO OCCURRED"

HELLO!!!! I LIVE HERE IN FLORIDA AND THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN RUNNING ADS EVERYDAY ON TV AND GUESS WHAT NETWORK???

CNN.....THE CNN/OBAMA NETWORK

AGAIN, OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS LYING.....AND PEOPLE BELEIVE THEM

OBAMA TELL THE FULL STORY...YOU ARE RUNNING TV ADS IN FLORIDA

HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY WILL WIN

By: Beans

Beans — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:28:03 +0000

The Clinton's don't like the rules, try to ignore the fact that states have ignored the rules (Michigan and Florida), so they try to change the rules. At what stage in child development does this behavior usually occur? A little at age 2-3 (with tantrums, as we've seen with Willy), and more later in the teen years. Do we want these immature buffoons running our country again?

By: Woody

Woody — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:24:38 +0000

Haha, Hillary is just trying to shift the focus from her soon to be very embarrasing defeat in South Carolina to a state which means nothing to the democrats. How smart!! God help America.

By: Boogie

Boogie — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:21:33 +0000

Why has every South Carolina headline pic that is featured by CNN shown ONLY blacks?
Because...the MEDIA is responsible for this race card issue...because the MEDIA is ramming race down our throats.

CNN.com is a tabloid.

By: Tom Masters

Tom Masters — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:18:51 +0000

He debates sooo much better than she does!

And how dare she call for the rules to be broker!!! OMG

I'm not sure I can really vote for her in the general election if she wins in this way.

I don't wanna vote for McCain or Billary.

She said the Republicans should just quit.

I think all the candidates should be fired and we should start with fresh ones