January 29, 2008
Posted: 10:19 PM ET
Watch Sen. Hillary Clinton thanks supporters in Florida Tuesday night.

Watch Sen. Hillary Clinton thanks supporters in Florida Tuesday night.

(CNN) – Hillary Clinton held a victory rally in Davie, Florida Tuesday night — even though the Democratic National Committee has stripped Florida of all of its delegates to the nominating convention, and no Democratic presidential candidate campaigned in the state.

“I could not come here to ask in person for your votes, but I am here to thank you for your votes today,” Clinton told her supporters. The New York senator also promised the crowd that she would do everything she could to get Florida’s delegation seated at the Democratic convention.

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said Tuesday night that Clinton was “trying to assign meaning to a contest that awards zero delegates” after her recent loss to Obama in South Carolina. “Sen. Obama is disappointed that Florida will have no role in selecting delegates for the Democratic nominee, but looks forward to competing and winning in Florida during the general election,” he said.

–CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart

Filed under: Florida • Hillary Clinton


Jonathan in Chicago   January 29th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

I cannot congratulate Senator Clinton as what she is attempting to do is unfair and unethical.

While she is no doubt within the 'letter of the law' as set and agreed to by all candidates, she is well outside the 'spirit of the law'; she is manipulating the Florida electorate to gain much needed momentum in advance of Super Tuesday. She didn't want the story to be Obama's win in South Carolina, and so just before the SC primary, elected to raise her protest over the DNC rules on FL and MI. She does not care about the voters in FL — she cares about managing the headlines (as do all candidates to lesser and greater degrees), and if she can garner some much needed delegates through feigned outrage at the disenfranchisement of the FL and MI voters — all the better.

I don't agree with the DNC's decision, but I do care about the election and the credibility of the eventual nominee for president. In the best of circumstances, the DNC would have opted to enact different sanctions against the FL and MI delegations; but, they did not. Now Clinton wants to reverse her agreement when it benefits her. I get it, and so do many other voters. I find Clinton's tactics to be disingenuous and cynical.

Indeed, Senator Clinton, along with President Clinton, have alienated a considerable portion of the party base (not to mention independents, moderates and other potential swing votes) through their underhanded tactics. This has been the topic of discussion on the blogs, the Sunday news, and print media. Their behavior has prompted remarks from various democratic leaders, and most likely influenced key endorsements for Senator Obama.

What do you think will happen to the democratic electorate if they believe that the DNC has caved into the Clinton bully tactics (and boy, bullying has been such a hit these past 7+ years!) and essentially given a sizable number of delegates to Clinton — possibly leading to her nomination? How many potential voters will place their votes elsewhere or elect to abstain from voting altogether? How many voters will feel disenfranchised IN THE GENERAL ELECTION by the actions of the DNC and the Clintons through such a decision — and how will that impact there willingness to support the Democratic nominee? I have already spoken to a number of voters, and many are calling for a boycott under these circumstances (a course of action I don't support).

Indeed, the polling data suggests that McCain is the likely GOP nominee, and among democrats, he is the least objectionable opponent. How quickly will McCain and his supporters tap into the resentment engendered by a Clinton selection v. election (remember how we all felt after the 2000 elections — we did not take kindly to having are leaders selected.)

If Clinton plays by the rules agreed upon by all the candidates and wins the nominations, I am certain that she will receive broad support in the general, but if she is enabled by the DNC to manipulate the campaigns for unfair advantage and wins thusly, she and you will have effectively alienated a sizable base in the party and will run a very serious risk of losing the general election against the strongest GOP candidate in the field.

paul   January 29th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

By analogy, the New York Jets went 3-1 in NFL preseason action this year. Shouldn't those games count for the regular season? There were thousands of fans who paid good money to see those games. Not counting them seems grossly unfair.

Jose Card - Independent   January 29th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

Hillary thinks the Clintons are bigger than their own party.
Her 'victory' in Florida can still impress uninformed voters.

Frank, San Diego   January 29th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

I hope that those in the Obama campaign will join Senator Clinton's effort to seat the delegates eventually chosen in Florida. No democrat should celebrate, or seek to profit from, the disenfranchisement of any voter.

Nor should any Democrat ever brag about having received more delegates while losing the popular vote. Those self-serving attitudes are core values in the Republican Party, but not ours.

MJ   January 29th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

I have never seen clearer acts of desperation than the HRC campain.

1.) Smear tactics, distortions & lies.

2.) Crying on public TV for sympathy votes.

3.) Disenfranchising voters

4.) Race-baiting

5.) Claiming victory in non-delegate states (FL/MI)

Has her campaign no shame? Of course not! Her 'win-at-all-costs' campaign must be stopped.

Jay   January 29th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

JohnS   January 29th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Greetings, people:
Those who are referring to the Obama AD in Florida are truly ignorant!!!!! This is very serious; most of these people are so ignorant it makes some of us SICK!!

The AD is by CNN; this AD is running and has been doing so in almost ALL the big states for quite some time now. I am an avid viewer of CNN in TX and have been seeing this AD since SC.

Wake up people; other nations truly and correctly laugh at us in the US because most of us are so uninformed, ignorant.. you name it!!!

When I run into so many dumb ones on university campuses, I think the public might be better off!!! However, events like this one, and the cheering for Hillary tell me that some of the people out there are equally ignorant and quite uneducated!!! God Bless us all…

Perhaps the state of Florida should simply stay out of this process, given that they simply DO NOT FOLLOW BASIC, I MEAN BASIC RULES!!!

This will come back to haunt the Democrats as the Republicans will use this so-called win of Hillary against them in the general election:

PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO REGARD FOR LAWS AND RULES OF THIS NATION!!!!

Tom   January 29th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS SINCE I HAVE JUST EXPERIENCED A MAJOR REVELATIO IN MY LIFE.

Within the past 10 years I have come to admit that I have a lot of racism within me. I believe that most of it comes from the ways that I was raised and the way that things are in this country.

I have a lot of friends who share the same attitudes towards other races that I do, HOWEVER, we have all been able to agree on quite a few things here lately.

1. FAIR is FAIR (and UNFAIR is UNFAIR): Barack Obama tried with all his might to enter this race as a human being. The Clintons made it a point to drag him down in the mud for the sake of winning regardless of the fact that the people believed in him.

2. It is a fact that we all have our own opinions, but one thing that is factual is that the ENTIRE WORLD has come to DISLIKE the US. This country has done a lot to harm a lot of people, including its own citizens. The fact is that Reagan, George Senior, The Clintons, and George Jr. have had very much to do with it all. You at least owe it to yourselves to research what some of the past administrations have done to hurt us.

Reagan, Iran Contra Affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra, you must read the information found at this link to even begin to understand how bad this was…(is))

Bush Senior, Desert Storm, Gulf War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_storm)

The Clintons, NAFTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement is a very large part of the reason we have seen many of our jobs sent south of the border.)

And we need not go into the problems that Bush Jr. has caused.

THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN WITHSTAND ANOTHER HARD BLOW TO THE STATE OF THIS UNION.

3. This country has not seen TRUE HOPE since Dr. Martin Luther King and the Kennedy's.

I sincerely mean this in no way to offend anyone, but I have never had a deep regard for blacks. But the fact of the matter is that, within my lifetime, I have never seen hope like the hope that Barack Obama has inspired in people. With all of the negative portrayals of black people (which is what I blame for the way that I am) I can see why blacks honor this guy so much. He is literally a hero to them. But at the same time, I feel like he represents the person inside of all of us who has fought to overcome all that is against us. I mean, this guy is a black man in the US, of all places, who, regardless of whether he wins or not, will be remembered until the end of time for what he has become.

One thing I am certain of is the fact that our country is on its knees. No empire can rule forever. But I think that the one thing that will give our country a chance to stay afloat is a new form of politics. Although I somewhat regret to say it, if Barack Obama follows through with his promise to include the American people in on decision making, this will be what saves us from ourselves. Now, by no means am I saying that this guy is a saint. Personally I think all politicians are crooked in some way.

Now, I'm not asking you to vote for any particular person. Personally, I have a lot to consider when stepping into that registration booth. My family values. Embedded prejudices. All sorts of things. I really, really want to vote for Barack Obama (he really is a heck of a guy even though he’s black), but I have a lot overcome before I am able to make that commitment. I hope that I can. I know a lot of you share my feelings.

Let’s all take this stuff a little more seriously folks.

Noah   January 29th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

Obama won't have to worry about the National Election he won't be competing in it! Go hillary!!!! Any canidate that goes to the states that "Dont matter" deserves a bit more in respect. It shows they truly care about the people. Not just the delegates :) Think about it.

Dagmar   January 29th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

Check the exit polls: most of the vote for Hillary was cast in December and early January. Obama won most of the vote cast in the last 2 weeks including today. That should tell everybody that Obama is on the rise. With McCain likely to win the GOP nomination, get real. Hillary can't win the general elections. Billary will help enormously to bring out the vote for the Republicans. Those guys just hate the them. A lot of independents as well. They LOVE to run against the Clinton's. Just imagine, what they smear campaigns will bring up about Bill's "activities" over the last 8 years or the funding of his presidential library.
Obama especially - and to a degree Edwards - can win the general election. We have seen that independents and even Republicans vote for him. With McCain's stand on the war and abortion and … do you really want another Republican in the White House?

Concerned Voter   January 29th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

I am a John Edwards supporter. I think he is FAR SUPERIOR to both candidates as a Democrat and as a nominee to beat John Mccain in November. However, I believe it is absolutely ridiculous that all you Obama supporters are trying to take this win away from Hillary. If Obama were winning with 50% of the vote you'd all be screaming and jumping around that he "trounced" her just like if Edwards had 50% of the vote I'd be screaming and jumping around about his "thumping" of both the media darlings. However, you have to give Hillary credit. She is going to end up winning over 1,000,000 votes and will end the evening with more votes than the Republican winner John Mccain. She did all that without even campaigning. That's pretty darned significant and all you Obama supporters can't take that away.

Now that I've said that, please consider John Edwards. He is the one candidate who ACTUALLY HAS IDEAS to change this country in a positive way. Obama gives wonderful speeches about change but just doesn't seem to have any real substance.

Edwards '08

Young Liberal   January 29th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

If she were to get these delegates I will vote for McCain just to spite the Democratic party.

Obama 08

Mike   January 29th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

I guess Chicago has forgotten about the Michelle Obama secret rendavou?!! This national media sucks!

Dave Johnson   January 29th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

It seems like cheating for Hillary to declare victory in Florida. If this woman wins the nomination look for the democrats to lose the general election again. Independents like me will never tolerate the Clintons again. If Obama wins however, the democrats will probably win in November.

JohnS   January 29th, 2008 11:11 pm ET

Unfortunately, Paul is one of those Hillary enablers!!! God Bless us all for minds like this one among us!!!!

joe   January 29th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

Here's to being informed and IMPRESSED :-) go Hillary — thank you for giving us Floridians a voice — and we will again speak up for you and for this country in the general election.

Obama and your cult members: try not to whine too loudly.

Steven and Veronica   January 29th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

Facts:

(1) Barack ran television ads (as late as today) in Florida in defiance of the DNC's rules. Clinton did not do this. They both had fundraisers they attended in Florida.

(2) Hillary asked the DNC to allow FL delegates at the convention long before the primary season started. AFTER the nominee is chosen, people. SHE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE SEATED ONLY AFTER THE NOMINEE WAS CHOSEN so they could participate in the political process AFTERWARDS. SHE HAS NOT ASKED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE!!!

WE ARE SO EASILY MANIPULATED.

Eliot   January 29th, 2008 11:12 pm ET

The result in Florida pretty much mirrors how the people will vote in the rest of the country with the exception of Illinois and Ma. perhaps come super tuesday.

Sandra   January 29th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Latest poll results from Florida: Hillary won highest in the dementia demographic. A subsection of geriatrics who thought they were voting for Bill.

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 29th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Hillary,

Please do not try to manipulate the DNC.
You will lose the little bit of respect some people still have left for you. Play by the rules that you agreed to and show that you have a shred of integrity somewhere left within you.

Obama '08

E.Morrison   January 29th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

Why did she have to make this spectacle if she weren't intimidated? Why did she start all of this the night of the SC Primary? Why is when she is in the position to lose she makes a plea! Can't you use that "voice" of yours that you said you've found with some confidence and show up elsewhere and support your party's rules?

Edwards or Obama '08 or this Indie is going McCain.

Christiaan, Norman, OK   January 29th, 2008 11:13 pm ET

I have to chime in here with the lot who point out that she agreed not to campaign in this state. Now that she won the competition because there was none, she wants to have the delegates seated so we can hand the election to her. Talk about doing anything to win an election.

Best off all though is the fact that she only got 50% of the votes in an unopposed race. Obama was running in at least a 3-way race (if we don't count Gravel and such) and got 55% of the vote! How is it a victory when as many people voted "anyone but you" as voted for you?

She may win this nomination, and it will be to the detriment of the Democratic Party and the nation at large.

GObama '08!!!

Raleigh   January 29th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

You're being hoodwinked, Florida.

stan pitts pa   January 29th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Tonight the democratic establishment looks with disdain at HRC, if she cant simply follow party rules, declaring herself the winner in a non-contest, how can anybody take her serious after this? obama is the best to beat mccain! vote for obama!

Ginny CA   January 29th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Congratulations, Senator Clinton. And thank you for recognizing the voices and votes of the Florida Democrats. I understand there is a good chance now that the DNC will eventually be forced to allow Florida and Michigan to seat their delegates.
God's speed, Hillary!

S.   January 29th, 2008 11:15 pm ET

Only a complete dummy would think that Florida matters. This is just Clinton spin and underhanded tactics.

IA. Democrat   January 29th, 2008 11:15 pm ET

'Clinton thanks Floridians, promises to get delegates seated'

This will never happen.

Benjamin   January 29th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

Obama supporters should look up the rules before saying Hillary didn't follow them. She broke nothing.

She also said she get the Florida delegates seated IF she was the nominee. Not she will get the seated period. Nice cherrypicking there CNN!!

Obama supporters are only happy their aren't any delegates at this point, and it's sick to throw that in the face of the 1.8 million voters in Florida. According to the foundations of America, their votes SHOULD count.

Murry   January 29th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

What Hillary is doing shows everyone how underhanded she is.
Why didn't she speak up sooner instead of at the last minute?
And, why is she trying to change the rules after the contest is over?
Now she's trying to turn Floridians against the DNC?
I hope that more Democratic party leaders take a good look at her despicable behavior and decide to support Obama. I'm willing to bet that no one wants to work for someone with such low morals.

I'm a woman and I'm for Barack Obama!
Obama 08!

david   January 29th, 2008 11:16 pm ET

She can have my vote,I promise,if she can explain why her and Billy thought it nescasary t take things from the Whitehouse that did'nt belong to them.OH PLEASE OH PLEASE QUIT!!!

Alexa   January 29th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

Hillary has struck… Fools Gold. After Florida maybe she'll get a chance to fly back to South Carolina and finally thank the supporters there who worked on her campaign.

Amy in Iowa   January 29th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

Florida has become a spin race for Hillary. The Clintons have gotten desperate. Hillary is even saying that Obama snubbed her. How sad. Hillary why did you snub the voters in South Carolina???

befmed   January 29th, 2008 11:18 pm ET

For all the negative press Hillary has gotten leading up to the Florida Democratic non-primary, it is worth noting that she got more votes than any other candidate in either party.

Amy R.   January 29th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

I feel nauseous. Hillary has the audacity to publically state that Obama snubbed her. As a female, I have lost all respect for Hillary at her latest underhanded tactic. She is back to playing the victim again. Get out the tissues.

Tomg   January 29th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

I think all the delegates in each state should be allowed to go to the convention and vote the way their respective states VOTERS want. This is going to be another year of Florida not being able to get anything right and another botched election… THE People of the US should be heard. wether or not the DNC decided they were not going to count them. Who decided that the votes don't count. Shouldn't that be left for the people to vote and for the other senators and news organizations to stay in the back ground worry about the economy and us highlights and let the presidential canidates have to work like they did back in old days when every vote did count. Not only the votes that are chose.

lara   January 29th, 2008 11:21 pm ET

you are avoiding the fact that obama is NOT getting the white vote
he is also NOT getting the hispanic vote

deal with it

Ben   January 29th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Go Hillary Go!

Chuck, Miami Fl   January 29th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Concerned Voter
I agree 100%.

Grace, Overland Park, Kansas   January 29th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

"she is going to end up winning over 1,000,000 votes and will end the evening with more votes than the Republican winner John McCain. She did all that without even campaigning."

um, i'm sorry but the last time i checked Floridians have access to tv and internet. surely they heard the fuss she was making over seating their delegates. that type of pandering works well with plenty of voters, especially if those voters perfectly fit her demographic appeal - i.e. over 65 and hispanic. also, in case you don't remember the name "clinton" is a pretty familiar one (especially for the older people) and obama might have been too much of a change for the majority of them.

this win isn't that significant. she went in with a big lead, she comes out with a big lead. however, in SC she went in with a big lead (more than 20%) and came out with a big defeat. that represented a more than 40% turnaround. that's huge. the numbers in iowa, NH and nevada were similar (obama had gained some momentum in NH, but the her emotional moment did wonders for her). so basically what i'm saying is that when obama campaigns, things happen. as people become more familiar with him, they realize that this is the change they need and they don't have to fall back into the past just because it is more familiar.

Nik   January 29th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

Hillary is a fine candidate, but no way in hell can she win a general election against McCain. NO REPUBLICANS AND FEW INDEPENDENTS WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY. Obama is the only democrat that has a chance in a general election and exit poles say he has a very good chance at that. I do not support the surge. I do not want 4-8 more years in a war that cannot be won. I don't want more republicans on the supreme court.

For the good of the country please, please, please vote for Obama.

Dolce   January 29th, 2008 11:23 pm ET

I am not sure if everyone forgot but Hilary was campaigning in Florida last week, before voting in S.C. She is paying dirty, very dirty. Actually her behaving reminds me on Bush' against McCain.
I am Obama supporter but I wouldn't mind Edward's either. I am very against Hilary and if she would be the presidential candidate I would give my vote to Republicans for sure. I do not see worse politics then hers actually.

R K Portland OR   January 29th, 2008 11:24 pm ET

I just heard Wolf Blitzer say on CNN that Hillary has declared herself the victor in the FL Dem primaries. I dont think it is just Hillary… It has been CNN that CNN has been using the "victory" word and thus help propagate the underhanded, desperate tactics of the Clinton campaign.

Some othe rcable channels didnt declare her a victor and just stuck to the facts that she won the most votes , but the fact remains that there are no delegates at stake here even though she is desperately trying to spin this into a momentum gathering event..

David S., Chicago, IL   January 29th, 2008 11:25 pm ET

Go ahead Hillary and steal the election, you'll see this long-time Democrat vote for Mickey Mouse!

Now John Edwards I would vote for as my second pick. But, the best leader and our best candidate is Barack…he has his ideas and they ARE substantive - open your eyes - he is inspiring and will bring new leadership to the Country - I WAS IN SOUTH CAROLINA - I met many people in the campaign - this movement is for real!

Let the best candidate win…

For me, it's Obama in '08

Amy R.   January 29th, 2008 11:25 pm ET

No delegates Hillary. And no dice. Why try to break the rules? This is proof that you can't keep your word. Stop the lies Hillary.

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   January 29th, 2008 11:26 pm ET

Her leading rivals, South Carolina primary winner Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John Edwards, did not campaign in Florida. They opted to concentrate on next week's "Super Tuesday" contests in states such as New York, California, Missouri and Georgia.

How misleading: as you acknowledge above, Sen. Clinton didn't campaign in Florida any more than her rivals did. (Fundraising was explicitly allowed in the campaigning ban.) And she didn't "trumpet," her win as the story on the main page declares; she graciously thanked the people of Florida for their vote of confidence.

Matt   January 29th, 2008 11:26 pm ET

Obama came out after the results and said that Floridians had "no idea" what the candidates were about since they didn't campaign there.

How insulting.

This insinuates that those in Florida don't read the paper, don't watch the debates, and don't watch news reports.

Shame on you, Obama, for labeling Floridians as completely uneducated.

observer   January 29th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Congratulations Hillary. 900,000 people inFla. approve of you. And the people of Fla count to true Americans. Wow, you routed Obama by about 300,000 votes. Huge!

David   January 29th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

I think some people don't understand these "florida" ads Barack was showing. They were national ads, put into national TV airtime, which is not decided by each local station. So, yes, they did appear in FL, but only because that's part of our nation.

Nick, Austin TX   January 29th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Concerned Voter- of course she got all those votes when nobody campaigned. Do you remember how far she was ahead in every state before this thing started? She was ahead by a huge margin in Iowa and both Obama and Edwards closed the gap and beat her. She started out ahead in every state because she is the highly well known Senator and wife of a President who everyone knew was going to eventually run as soon as she took her senate seat. I'm for Edwards as well but I don't see how she deserves any credit for this since she was the presumptive nominee to begin with.

Tyran   January 29th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Concerned Voter, I disagree. If Obama had won Florida, I would still think it is a non-issue because no one from the Democratic party campaigned there. I might have gotten a chuckle out of it all since Hillary had already planned to fly there and give an acceptance speech. But beyond that, I do not think it would have matter at all because he would still walk away with the same amount of delegates he walked into the night with.

I happen to like John Edwards, but I think it is shortsighted to argue that Obama has no substance. Obama has plenty of substance and is very clear about what direction he would like to lead this country. Obama has consistently outlined his agenda for all those who have listened. For emphasis, how many times have we heard Obama talk about what he would do in terms of education and insuring that more Americans are able to affordably send their kids to college. I have not heard the other two candidates talk about education nearly as much. Edwards has talked about ending poverty but has not specifically spoken about the ways in which education can be used to help in that cause. How many times I have heard Barack outline his plans for the economy or how he would work hard to insure that senior citizens are able to live comfortably in their retirement years without having to do things like pay into social security beyond the age they start receiving it. Let's face it, Barack is a man that can do more than inspire people with eloquent speeches. He has the capability and character of getting the job done.

Jay   January 29th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

Not one Barack supporter answered my question so far, so I will ask it again.

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

I guess Like Mr. Obama, you just choose to ignore anything Hillary..lol

Carolinian   January 29th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

I congraduate Hillary Clinton on her victory… I agree with the concerned Voter that posted before me. The Obama supporters are trying to sweep Hillary Flordia win under the rug… I'm from SC and I voted for Hillary in the primary and I will do the same in November… I am so excited about this victory going into Super Tuesday next week.

Hillary '08

friendly   January 29th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

I agree with your thorough analysis, Jonathan in Chicago! Everybody has to play fairly - nobody can change the rules in the middle or at the end of the election!! - it is not fair in any simple game - here we are talking about election of a democratic nominee for the president of the USA!! If HRC is so concerned about the voters in Florida - why she did not say anything about it before - when DNC set the rules last year?!

MJ   January 29th, 2008 11:29 pm ET

Of course Hillary won FL with no campaigning from the other two candidates. She has been a national household name for close to 20 years…ONLY because of Bill!

Any HRC supporter knows that if more people become familiar with Barack Obama or John Edward, Hillary's boat will sink like a lead weight!.

indie   January 29th, 2008 11:30 pm ET

I'm not uninformed, but I'm still impressed. I want a president who will scratch and claw if she represents me. That some how impresses me. I'm mean what else are you going to do as a candidate? Run around and wave banners of "CHANGE."

Tom Wittmann   January 29th, 2008 11:30 pm ET

It is really outrageous that the Clintons are asking the DNC to allow the Michigan(where she ran unoposed) and now the Florida delegates to vote in the convention, and even more so if the DNC accepts this request.

This will force OBAMA to go to court and independent of the result, would without
doubt create a climate in and outside the Democratic party which would lead to
its defeat later.

If the valid DNC decisions to penalize States is just or not, is out of discusion.
Fact is that all three Dem candiadtes had accepted it and therefore pledged not to
campaign there.

Bruno   January 29th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

no delegates for you Hillary

Ray   January 29th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

Guess what..Obama lost a race that the people of Florida thought meant something. So it does mean something!!

Aida D. Spradlin   January 29th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

Tell me what is the problem with political coverage that does not see that Senator Clinton, without campaigning got over 800,000 votes…… more than any Republican including McCain.

Is CNN truly the most trusted unbiased network…one wonders……

Didi Miesen   January 29th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

I know you won't run my comments. That's fine. Just wanted to share my disgust with the best political team on television.

I used to respect CNN because I believed CNN upheld the highest journalist standards. That is no longer the case, of course and this viewer is one of many who will turn CNN off permanently after the elections. Until then I will hold my nose and watch only to work on countering your slander and manipulations you all really think, the viewers aren't aware of. How arrogant, ignorant and crude.

I predict: CNN will soon be a laughing stock world wide. you can censor all you like. Fair is fair I suppose because your viewers are censoring you faster and faster.

mommyof3inGA   January 29th, 2008 11:31 pm ET

I was going to post a lengthy blog comment, but then read yours, Jonathon in Chicago. Upon reading your very eloquent breakdown……all I can say is "AMEN"!

– And I was once a Clinton supporter. She's really turned me off.

Indydemrep   January 29th, 2008 11:32 pm ET

America, evaluate the exit polls carefully. Non of the young vote that is usually for Obama came out. The group between 19 and 30 came out in very low percentages. If Obama had been in working in the state the young vote would have come out for him. Listen we don't have time on our hands like the retires that voted for Mrs. Clinton, if our votes are not going to count for something, we'll spend our working on something more important.

Just stating the facts.

IDR

Steve, Chappaqua, N.Y.   January 29th, 2008 11:33 pm ET

I tried for a second time to watch this speech she gave, and I still can't get through it. She is screaming with that grating voice of hers, I find it really hard to listen to what she's saying. I know it sounds like I'm bashing her, but play the clip and see for yourself, she's brutal. I thought she was much better one on one with Blitzer later on.

Brian   January 29th, 2008 11:35 pm ET

Cmon CNN this is totally biased coverage in favor of Obama. How can Hillary "promise" to get the Florida delegates seated? This is "fear mongering." I have seen other posts lately suggesting your coverage is becoming biased; please be fair…

Keystone gal   January 29th, 2008 11:36 pm ET

OK … firstly, I'm a republican, secondly, I never cared for the Clintons, thirdly …. I have a fully functioning brain …

This is what I know …
The DNC spanked Florida because it wanted to have its voice heard in the primaries. The Rebulicans rebuked this change, but fell far short of taking away all delegates.

Even though the dem candidates agreed to not actively seek votes, one dem did through the form of TV ads, yet he failed to garner as many votes as Hillary — who played by the rules.

Hillary is asking that the delegates be seated following the selection of the candidates, which is the least that can be done.

Look … I think McCain and Romney can both take Obama … as the man is a happy, upbeat, motivational man, but he is weak on information. I think Hillary is the dems only real chance.

It makes no logical sense what the dems did to MI and FL, but boy oh boy, I'm glad you did it because my taxes won't go up for the next 9 years with a republican in the white house again.

Keep on thinking with emotion … please … the pocketbook you'll be saving will be mine!

Michael   January 29th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

Doesn't really matter what the Democratic National Convention says…. the voice of the people SHOULD NEVER be discounted. They should have found another way of penalizing Florida & Michigan. To take away their VOICE in the process is both unconstitutional and wrong.

I am from Tampa, Florida…..and my vote should count REGARDLESS of anything else.

Michael Arnaud-Glen Burnie, Maryland   January 29th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

All this noise about Florida and Michigan not haveing delegates at the convention just proves one thing. The parties and electoral college need to be removed from the election process. Then and only then will EVERY state have a voice then only the votes counted in the general election will matter, instead of all this campagining for delegates hype. But then again, why would the parties want the PEOPLE to actually pick their President. Yeah, there's a radical idea.

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 29th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

I wish everyone would get their facts straight.

Senator Obama's NATIONAL ad was not against the rules.
The DNC approved it.
You can not run a NATIONAL ad and omit ONE state.
Billary could have spent the money and did the same thing.

Also it was not a HUGE win for Billary.
There were NO delegates to win.
Obama 0 - Edwards 0 - Clinton 0 - Kucinich 0

I believe if it were a REAL race in Florida the results would have been much different and many other people other than the people concerned about the property tax issue would have came out in droves to vote and be heard. When intelligent people know that their vote will not count because there are no delegates to win they are more apt to stay home!

H.ROSS   January 29th, 2008 11:38 pm ET

Wow was that a message from white America ?

Hiroken   January 29th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

This is a big win for HRC–delegates or no, tactics used irrelevant, congratulations to her!

I, however, still think the best thing for America is a nomination for Obama. HRC is just another politician. Obama is an American.

~

Tyran   January 29th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

I think the truly sad and unfortunate thing about all of this is that Hillary was not willing to stay the course in South Carolina and thank her supporters who worked tirelessly to campaign for her in the state as well as get out to vote in the SC primary. Yet, she is willing to go to a state where she did not campaign to thank supporters. That's hypocritical, disingenuous and another sign of just who the Clinton campaign for the White House is all about–Hillary!

I promise that if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, she will not win in the general election. Republicans wil not let her win. As Roland Martin pointed out tonight, as much as the Republicans have an aversion to John McCain, they would rallly around him in order to beat Hillary. All of a sudden, Republicans who have grown disenchanted wtih the party would get out to vote against Hillary. And, sadly, I would vote against her even though I desperately want to see an end to a Republican-run White House. I cannot be supportive, however, of Hillary's divisive and me-first tactics that evince to me that she does not care about the American people. I almost cannot stand to see the sight of the woman and believe that she would ruin the great chance that we Democrats have to win the Presidency and begin to heal this nation.

I pray to God that come Super Tuesday, Democractic Americans are smart enough to vote for Barack Obama! If not, at least vote for John Edwards. Otherwise, I will begin my campaign amongst fellow Democrats to either vote independent, or, worse, Republican in order to thwart Hillary's efforts. That is a promise!

Nancy   January 29th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

Again, I think Obama is SOOOOOOOOOOOO hypocritical. He does exactly what the Clintons do and then he plays all sanctimonious and victimy. I have always voted for Democrats, but I'm not sure I could vote for him because I think he is not genuine - I think his manipulation by using values and high principles while being so dishonest stinks. He is far more dangerous than Hilary, and I hope those of you who have been duped by him will wake up.

CNN, your support for Obama is very noticeable. Even your headline, "Hilary Trumpets…." is a slap at her. I can't imagine you'd say that Obama Trumpets a win! No, your word for SC was "rout." It seems to me that some media, e.g., CNN, and some old-style politicians are getting back at Bill Clinton by "trumpeting" Obama. Yuk - talk about old-style politics! Obama = old-style cronyism and say anything to get elected. Hillary = not perfect but far better than the Obama.

June Edwards   January 29th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

I've been listening to CNN all evening and all I've heard is Hillary bashing. No one has mentioned that she got more votes than McCain or anyone!! Her voters came out fully knowing that their vote won't count. That is GREAT support!!!

Independent Observer   January 29th, 2008 11:39 pm ET

Is anyone else concerned that Clinton and Obama are being presented by the news media as the only viable Democrats?

No matter how tainted Edwards is by the Dems failed '04 bid, he's still a better candidate and statesman then either of the two front-runners.

Give Edwards the airtime that the Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee are getting and then maybe we'll have a good shot at getting a real candidate.

On the bright side, this IS America, after all, and the Dems should know that there's no way to attract Republicans with a woman or a black guy (a sad and ugly truth). If nothing else, he's the white guy who's not Hillary.

Stamford   January 29th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Hey, Florida voted for the two nominees and is a view of the upcoming election. Delgates counting or not, it is important to see how people are voting. On to Super Tuesday

Brian   January 29th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Just like Hillary left South Carolina and campaigned elsewhere because she knew she was going to lose SC, Obama abandoned FL because he knew there was no way he was going to win there. Obama did not lose Florida because he didn't campaign there, Obama lost Florida because he couldn't win there. Check all the voting statistics if you seriously doubt that, if you've been watching this campaign closely you'll know they favor Hillary bigtime. And this is why Obama is downplaying Florida and saying it doesn't matter now. Too bad for all the Floridians who didn't want to change their primary date but are being disenfranchised now.

DirtyPoliticsAgainforClinton   January 29th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Ummmm Hillary, you might want to look at those percentages again. They weren't that bad considering Obama and Edwards weren't even in Flordia campaigning…uuuhhh "fund raising". All the press about saving Florida and Michigan got a lot of free press. Smart move but dirty pool.

Just wait for a "fair" election like South Carolina. Florida is made up of a lot of old folks that just seem to love you. You know the kind that don't think for themselves.

Let's get a fair representation then we'll see who wins.

copeman   January 29th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

This may be the most honest primary results of any. Florida Democrats were not subject to crazy in-state campaign tactics, negative and dishonest advertisements, etc., and had to vote for which candidate they like from the outside looking in. All candidates were on the ballot and had a fair chance. It is an important win, and I think speaks volumes about how Democrats will vote on Super Tuesday.

NOBAMA NO WAY   January 29th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

NObama would be calling to seat those delegates if he won it. Sour grapes indeed.

AND WHOSE ADS WERE PLAYING ON CNN AND MSNBC IN FLORIDA??

Hillary Clinton's? NOPE

John Edwards'? NOPE

Obama's? YES HE DID! THAT breaks the pledge, NOT fundraisers!

BRING ON SUPER CLINTON TUESDAY!!!

a human being   January 29th, 2008 11:41 pm ET

Obama is good actor, he should go to the movie business, leave politics to right ones.

Deb   January 29th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Stay on message Democrats - we are running against Republicans! Leave emotion out of this and learn and demand more from the candidates. What do you really know they can achieve? This is too important to turn the race into a fan club. Give credit where and when it is due. In other words,
GROW UP!

Dan, Minneapolis, MN   January 29th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

Steven and Veronica, thank you for setting the record straight. This was an important political omen, one to be repeated next Tuesday. As to the Obama supporters, your good natured disposition changes when your candidate is not the center of focus. The fact is that nearly 900,000 Floridians took their time to vote for their candidate. Instead of remaining seated in their couches to make sniffling snipes, they walked out of their homes and voted. By the logic offered by the Obama supporters, the 543,000 voters, who casted votes for him must be in same league as Senator Clinton's voters. 900,000 votes is not a figment of one's imagination. This is actuality and get real! And lara you are right. As an Asian American, I was incensed by the speech made by the mayor of Atlanta last week. Her remarks, at the expense of President Clinton, has catapulted this election based on race!

bob   January 29th, 2008 11:42 pm ET

FOLKS MY HAT GOES OFF TO HILLARY

EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NO DELEGATES…AND ALL CANDIDATES WERE ON SAME GROUND RULES..

HILLARY WON WITH THE LARGEST VOTER TURNOUT…OVER 50%

IF NOTHING ELSE, SHE GOT HER VOICE BACK AND THIS WILL WORK IN HER FAVOR AS SHE MOVES TO SUPERTUESDAY

CONGRATULATIONS HILLLARY…YOU WERE GREAT ON CNN….I DONT HOW YOU KEPT A STRAIGHT FACE KNOWING CNN IS SOOOOO PROOO OBAMA

a little sad   January 29th, 2008 11:43 pm ET

Tyran January 29, 2008 11:28 pm ET

"Concerned Voter, I disagree. If Obama had won Florida, I would still think it is a non-issue because no one from the Democratic party campaigned there."

Why did so many more people vote for Hillary than for Obama or Edwards? Even without 'campaigning' (Although, Obama did run ads) Hillary collected many more votes.

This ain't spin, it's the truth. Maybe you don't like it, but it's the truth.

Got lots of people still to vote that will see this.

Holly, Kansas City, MO   January 29th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

Oh, she promises to get their delegates seated, does she? When did Hillary become president of the DNC? Someone clue me in. This woman is pathetic.

mommyof3inGA   January 29th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

RE: Obama and the S.C. "black vote":

1. Obama won ALL but two counties in S.C. — only three of the counties were predominantly black. The rest were predominantly white. Beaufort county, an affluent white area (Hilton Head) voted for Obama HEAVILY.

2. S.C. is 67% white and 29% black according to census records, so don't think for a minute that the media isn't trying to "spin" this into a racial issue. Even if Obama had lost HALF of the black vote, he still would have won the state.

John in Columbus, OH   January 29th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

The Clintons seem to be relying on racism (mostly among Hispanics. whites are voting overwhelmingly for Obama that's why his is such a threat) and gender-loyalty to get votes. So much for substance. So much for a vision of the future of this country.

Hugo M., Ithaca, NY   January 29th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

Those Democrats that are so extremely focused on their PARTY returning to power rather than choosing a candidate based on his/her merits would do well to choose Obama and not Hillary. Hillary is too polarizing and hated by too many people to beat John McCain. Conservatives like Obama, some love him. I admit, as a Republican, the choice between McCain and Obama is a very difficult one, while Hillary, with her very cheap smear tactics and win-at all-costs campaign, is a clear loser.

BO   January 29th, 2008 11:45 pm ET

The DNC should be grateful that Hillary is keeping the Democratic base in Florida energized. Florida is a key swing state in the general election.

Obama is on the losing side of this deal. How can anyone argue that citizens are not allowed to vote in a Democracy? The DNC ruling is simply too harsh. The Democrats will most likely lose Florida in the national election if Obama were to edge out Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

Florida also has significantly more electoral votes than South Carolina in the national election. If Hillary and Obama end up close in delegates, the DNC would be much better off nominating a candidate that can carry Florida over South Carolina. Even worse for Obama, South Carolina has historically been a tougher state for the Democrats to win in the national election.

Hillary '08

Concerned Voter   January 29th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

Obama supporters, you are kidding yourself if you really think he is better than either of the other 2 democrats. He will be run over by the Republicans if he is our nominee. They will beat him into the ground on his inexperience, especially in foreign policy.

Joshua   January 29th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

Thank you, Tom, for your honesty regarding racism. We have been fed and bought into so many stereotypes about different races and we all have seeped in the effects of racism. It is good to see someone being honest, I would rather here blunt honesty and real dialogue over pandering and denial any day.

Kat   January 29th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

I am waiting for a Hillary supporter to answer my question…..why didn't her "concern" for the "voice of the people in Florida" develop until AFTER she lost Iowa and South Carolina? Why didn't she stand up and refuse to agree not to campaign in the state EARLY ON if she is such a stand up human being?

I do have to thank her though. Watching her "victory" speech in a primary where no one campaigned against her was hysterical. Now, as another poster said, maybe she can get her butt on a plane back to South Carolina to thank all of her supporters who worked so hard for her there.

I also have noticed that Bill has dropped off the face of the earth. Good move.

rick   January 29th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

oh come on now,, it was a rout,, and understand it for what it is,, the makeup of todays florida voters depict what we will most likely see on super tuesday,, and it is obvious that just as the blacks voted along racial lines in s.c., the white and latio's appear to be doing the same thing

Ann Aloha Independent Thinker,PA   January 29th, 2008 11:47 pm ET

This will nip CNN and Obama right in the butt during the DNC. These delegates will count and you'll see the whining from the Obama campaign and CNN, MSNBC and FOX can't change that.

Pat M   January 29th, 2008 11:47 pm ET

Amy in Iowa:

Where did Hillary say that Obama snubbed her? Could you back that statement with proof? Florida has become a spin race for Hillary? I think that statement is a spin.

You Obama Supporters have no room to talk about Hillary being vicious and taking cheap shots. Listen to yourselves and then tell me who is vicious and taking shots! And who the sore losers are.

Congratulations Hillary! Although knowing there would be no delegates in Florida you still honoured Floridians as citizens who count. I can't imagine why that is being perceived by some as undemocratic. It was your time to give and your choice to make and apparently Floridians appreciated both.

RealB.G., Sacramento, California   January 29th, 2008 11:48 pm ET

Once again the Clinton's throw the baby out with the bath water. The candidates made a pledge in Iowa and New Hampshire not to participate in Florida and Michigan. She refused to remove her name from the ballot in Michigan and went to Florida and celebrated her lack of delegates. Does anyone honestly believe that the voters in Iowa and New Hampshire are going to forgive and forget during the general election? If Hillary is the nominee New Hampshire and Iowa will punish her during the general election. We need to make the most of every state. This selfish, win at all cost, think about tomorrow later is going to cost the Democrats the White House.

Anne   January 29th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

The media needs to be more objective and stop trying to brain wash the people into voting for Obama. No matter who his relatives are, he is not qualified to be President! Unfortunately, the American people's wealth has already been stolen and they are already slaves of the financial elites of the world, so it want matter much who wins the Presidency.

Martin, Redwood City, CA   January 29th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

Are you people actually thinking before you type? Let me get this straight…Obama supporters love him because he inspires and brings hope about uniting this country…oh and also because most of his supporters have come to detest Bill and Hillary of course because they are so divisive. Fair enough. So back to the facts, … more than 800,000 people voted for Hillary in a meaningless primary. By which standard is that not significant, according to which measure are those voters ignorant? I don't care which candidate you support but don't trivialize the fact that all these people bothered to come out and vote. Heck, more people voted for Hillary than for McCain! So back to your superior philosophy…tell us how this country is going to come together and tackle the challenges of our time, when whining, finger-pointing Obama cheerleaders (like YOU!) are as divisive as the very people they detest. The fact is that it is neither change, nor cynicism that's in the air…it's hypocrisy. Mark my words, even Obama does not have the cure for that. People in this country need to start thinking about the true meaning of JFK's words "Ask what you can do for your country".

C   January 29th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

Jay,

No. And why can't Hillary explain her 35 years of experience? Please answer that.

douadavid   January 29th, 2008 11:49 pm ET

Hello Floridans !
Thank you for the lesson that you gave us. We should not and will not vote for a drug addict ed, woman chaser , and crooked candidate like Barack Obama.
Congratulation Hillary !

Jennifer   January 29th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

Florida is still part of america right? Because as a Democrat voter in florida I feel that I am being silenced now just like all those votes that were not counted eight years ago! Oh sure let us vote then silence our voice when we have spoken! GO HILARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous   January 29th, 2008 11:50 pm ET

The media has been so bias in the tank cheering Barack Obama, it will be interesting to see if they make an equal big deal out of Hillary Clinton's victory in Florida and the fact that California Rep. Maxine Waters has endorsed Hillary.

peter   January 29th, 2008 11:51 pm ET

On what ticket is Senator Clinton running? OR which party is supporting Senator Clinton's candidacy? Why is it so difficult for her to obey the orders of the party that she is trying to be the flagbearer? Her attitude is questionable. How can she prove to the whole world that she will not be a dictator or she will not do things like the current president of US (George Bush)

CaliMom   January 29th, 2008 11:51 pm ET

That's not fair to Californians! We already don't really matter.

How dare you, Hillary Clinton, have the nerve to try to circumvent DNC punishment for Florida disenfranchising other smaller states in their decision to move ahead of everybody else, for YOUR OWN PERSONAL GAIN so you can in turn disenfranchise THE 22 SUPER TUESDAY STATES!!!

THIS IS TOTAL B.S.!!!

TAKING AWAY THEIR PRIMARY DELEGATES was the only punishment the DNC could bestow on Florida. They were WARNED, but did it anyway. THEIR votes in November WILL ALREADY COUNT!

What a crock. I voted for Bill twice, but I would rather eat worms than vote for you. You power hungry, insensitive, self serving cowardly liar!

REPTILE   January 29th, 2008 11:52 pm ET

Bush is againt American interests… Obama will listen to Americans

vickiigou   January 29th, 2008 11:53 pm ET

Barack is inspiring when he talks and what he says we all want to believe…But he hasn't told us how he is going to accomplish this change….he is too naive, and does not have enough experience to run our country, people really need to look at the facts…don't vote for someone that has no experience…we did that in the last two elections, and it really has messed us up… I recommend to look at the two frontrunners websites… Pull up Obamas website see what he has done…then pull up Hillaryclinton.com see what she has done, I suggest to do more research, but I know most won't even do this… People have only known Barack for a few months…Hillary has been in the public's eye for over 15 years, and more years in Arkansa…with that said, we know her….unfortunately, people might not know all the work she has done because they focus on negative publicity… I urge you to see what changes she has made for the past 35 years… This is a woman that has helped the average person a lot…she's helped the bore … and even the rich..don't you think we should all be helped in one way or another?

florida   January 29th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Dolce, stop the lies. Hillary was not campaigning in Florida last week. The people that call Clinton a liar, need to take a serious look in the mirror, then actually go research their facts.

Mark, Minneapolis, MN   January 29th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Over 2 million Democrats troop to the polls to express their opinions and the Obama campaign calls it meaningless.

The fact that huge numbers of voters turned out to express their opinion when none of the candidates campaigned in the state makes Clinton's win even more compelling, not less.

Anne   January 29th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Why are you giving Obama millions of dollars of free publicity? He has admitted to using illegal drugs. Is this his reward for such misconduct? Stop misusing the American people's public airways in this manner.

Big Will   January 29th, 2008 11:56 pm ET

Tyran you are hilarious…..but believe me many independents are watching and she actually could have done more harm than good today. So way to go Billary-keep up the good work and make sure you screw this up for everyone.

Funny thing. Republican aren't fans of Mccain and Democrats are fond of Hillary…feels like 2004 all over again.

Thank God I am independent and pick and choose unlike the Repubs and crying democrats.

vickiigou   January 29th, 2008 11:56 pm ET

I find it quite interesting how in two of the States that Hillary has won the delegate votes are not allowed…um…um.. But she still leads with the most delegate votes….talk about obstacles…this is a strong woman to stand up to all that has flown her way….we need a strong woman!!!

Mark   January 29th, 2008 11:57 pm ET

Clinton and Obama or Obama and Clinton. We will need them both to beat old man McCain and Chuckabee! Stop the in-fighting. They will. One will be President and the other VP. Vote Dem!

REPTILE   January 29th, 2008 11:57 pm ET

Hillary TELLS us what our needs are… Obama LISTENS to what our needs are… which way works better?

greg   January 29th, 2008 11:59 pm ET

obama osama, dang, oops i did it again ,,,

CaliMom   January 29th, 2008 11:59 pm ET

By the way, this is NOT about a candidate, this is about right and wrong.

Florida and Michigan broke the rules as set forth by the DNC for oh let's say about 60 years successfully followed until now.

They were warned against taking this action. They knew they would lose their primary delegates IF they moved this date ahead. Take your medicine and shut up so the rest of us can get our chance to vote when its our turn.

**FLORIDA voters moving ahead of smaller states disinfranchised other American voters. **

Don't forget that either when you whine about poor Florida voters.

Linda   January 30th, 2008 12:00 am ET

It is "We the People", not we the delegates. I congradulate the Democratic voters of Florida for a record breaking turnout in spite of the DNC robbing you of your delegates.

To the fool that claims most of the votes came in during December, BS. Early voting started on January 12th. Hillary did not campaign in Florida and it was a contested contest since all of the candidates were on the ballot.

You Obama people cry as much as he does. You better hope he does not win the nomination because the Republicans will eat him for lunch. What a fraud he is. You people need to come down off that magic carpet ride you are taking with him before you fall. Read the speech he gave on his internet site announcing he was running for the nomination. He states in his opening paragraph that he is tired of the same old fights of the 60's. When he was not seeing any movement in the polls however, he morphed himself into JFK and MLK and you suckers fell for it. Most of you probably aren't even old enough to have witnessed these two iconic figures in action. GROW UP

January   January 30th, 2008 12:00 am ET

Sure, Hillary - you can do whatever you want - who cares about the DNC rules?! What's next?! I've got an idea for you. How about asking the DNC at the end of the primaries to multiply the number of delegates that you'll get in states that loose to Obama or Edwards by the number of years of your "experience" in the White House (8)? I think that should work for you just fine :)

Monie   January 30th, 2008 12:01 am ET

I am a Democrat from Florida, I was disappointed that my vote was not going to count. So, I was totally surprised as were many voters when I went to the polls and discovered I could actually cast my vote. I have been amazed that the media thinks that the candidates have not campaigned in Fl. What do you call the 24 hours on 5 cable channels of Decision 2008. I believe Fl voters had an opportunity to listen and evaluate without all of the rheteroric experienced in the earlier primaries. We could vote our own thoughts and values with out having the candidates on the ground making a fool of themselves, we can deal with just the issues. CNN exit polls themselves show that democratic voters did think through their votes. voters were on blogs all week end to get people out to vote and make their voices heard. So please don't discount our voice, as being a beauty contest. and Lou, the spectical is being fueled bu the media. Could we stick to the facts, like the voters in Fl apparently decided to do.

ken   January 30th, 2008 12:01 am ET

It is so funny to see Obama supporters making excuses and spouting sour grapes remarks because Hillary won in Florida. I guess that her win there removes the excuses that Obama and Edwards were not on the ballot. Face it folks - Hillary won - delegates or not. It is Obama that violated the DNC rules in Florida by airing ads (yes relative of mine saw them). You Obama supporters need to stop spouting nonsense and be fair.
Go Hillary!! California will also hand you a win as big as in Florida next week. My family of 8 (yes all 8 of us and all eligible to vote for you) will definitely be voting for you on Feb 5 in the California primary. We are sick of the biased media reporting, the Obama rethoric (as well his supporters) and all the negative comments about you in blogs.
We know how you have received results and have weathered all the unfair media and right wing attacks all these years and we will support you. We are a well educated family (3 of us have Phds) and we are all educated on what you have done.
We will also be donating to your campaign.
HILLARY 08!

vickiigou   January 30th, 2008 12:02 am ET

Hillary didn't do anything wrong…many of these comments are fantasy…Must be part of the fantasy vote…

John   January 30th, 2008 12:02 am ET

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary,

I always new Bill was terrible at telling the truth, but you take the cake. YOU AGREED NOT TO CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA aaaaand of course, as your last name infamously suggests, YOU BOLDY LIED IN FRONT OF EVERYONE WHO CARED TO WATCH YOU TODAY IN FLORIDA.

HELLOOO, supporters of Hillary, she's not even in the White House yet and she's already began a gate, "The Floridagate." sad sad sad :(

tomdavie   January 30th, 2008 12:03 am ET

A lot of people voted tonight. A LOT.

To say that doesnt mean anything is total SPIN by the Obama campaign.

It means quite clearly that they are EXPOSED to the fact they cant win an election they cant VIGOURSLY campaign in. They dont have the ground support or Obama making speeches or the MEDIA POUNDING EVER SINGLE POSITIVE about Obama possible.

Look at the exit polls. The youth voters were not lopsided on Obama's side. Every other demographic is exactly what we have seen.

Obama 70% african american vote

Clinton 2-1 Latino vote

Clinton white vote and white women vote.

So the difference was clearly Obamas ability to campaign and mobilize the youth vote.

This is why the youth vote never makes a difference in the general election. Nobody can MOBILIZE the entire countrys youth to go vote. You would need the entire US army to do that.

John   January 30th, 2008 12:03 am ET

Jay I will answer your question…

As an Obama supporter, I honestly think had the votes been reversed say, he would have done a nice camera shot from Kansas city or wherever and said thank you to the people of Florida for their support and he looks forward to working with them come november to win the election. He would have been rousing and inspiring at the end talking about their importance. I don't think he would have gone there on Tuesday night. And I know he would not have been there on Sunday as she was.

And again that is why I support him.
I feel I can trust his word.
I cant trust Hillary's.
She has shown this over and over.
I wish I could
But I cant.

Does that help Jay?
I think alot of us feel this way.

All the best-
John

Bryce K. Dixon   January 30th, 2008 12:04 am ET

Lets Note:

Hillary won more votes than Edwards and Obama combined

More votes than Obama won in South Carolina

Plus Hillary Won even if no delegates are awarded

Get over it, sour grapes are bad for you

Go Hillary, Who want some… lol

BO   January 30th, 2008 12:04 am ET

"I probably think it's a snapshot. It's a beauty contest that's similar to a poll of where people currently are at in Florida," Obama said. "But none of us has campaigned there, so people have no idea what the respective candidates stand for, haven't had a chance to look them over, kick the tires."

Doesn't Obama realize that we live in the information age with the Internet and 24 hour news channels? Florida was more than adequately informed about the candidates, especially after the multitude of nationally televised debates. In fact, I doubt that most citizens in Super Tuesday states will have any more opportunity to "kick the tires" with the candidates than Florida voters did.

Hillary '08
Illinois voter

Obama   January 30th, 2008 12:05 am ET

To Jay: If Obama won by 50% of course they wouldn't count and no, we wouldn't complain. How insulting that you would compare our values to those of Sen. Clinton.

Rob   January 30th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Hillary might have won 0 delegates for her victory in Florida,but this victory is not unimpressive. She won a higher percentage of Black Voters than Obama won of White Voters. (something that absolutely no one expected)

The excuses given by the Obama camp, that Hillary won on name recognition alone is absurd. Voters came out to vote in a PRIMARY Election in a race that did not count for any delegates in record numbers, they were uneducated voters, voting on "name recognition." They knew what they were doing, and they overwhelmingly chose Hillary.

Winning by such a margin in a state without campaigning is a huge accomplishment as well.

Hillary 08!

Nik T, Houston, TX   January 30th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Looks like the OBama supporters are more hate-filled than the Republicans, my goodness!

They ignore all the Obama violations (campaigning) yet attribute all of those to Hillary. These are the people that give the Democratic party a bad name. Please change parties.

vickiigou   January 30th, 2008 12:06 am ET

How many candidates in the past fifty years got elected because they talked about change…Many…has anything happened…No..why it takes more than one person….. wake up America…you are being Bamboozled!!!

Leah DiMarco, TX   January 30th, 2008 12:07 am ET

People who payed close attention to the election are aware of the following:

1. Obama won the vote of FL democrates who voted today as per CNN, FOX, and MSNBC
2. Obama won the votes of FL democrates who voted in the last month
3. Clinton overall lead comes from the 1/2 million absentee votes cast over a month ago

The playing field is even and wide open on Super Tuesday

Joe   January 30th, 2008 12:09 am ET

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

Chad   January 30th, 2008 12:09 am ET

Over 1.7 million Florida Democrats voted today without anyone campaigning in their state and with the news media saying it was just a "beauty contest" Obviously they've been watching the news, listening to the debates, and made a choice. All candidates honored their pledges (except for national tv ads). Obama called an 80% African American vote and 25% white vote a "coalition." If you support a candidate of change, then stop being so bitter when you loose.

Brian, Bloomington, IN   January 30th, 2008 12:11 am ET

The only reason Hillary went down there to campaign was because wanted people to forget the whoppin she took in SC. She did a fine job in a state in which OBama or Edwards never fought for.

OBama or this moderate is crossing the line.

George   January 30th, 2008 12:12 am ET

Wow, you've got to be impressed by all the sour grapes from Obama supporters!!! The fact is Obama cannot win a big state with small black population like Florida (except maybe his home state).

NV   January 30th, 2008 12:13 am ET

Hillary took FL by 50% because no one else campaigned in FL. Since she is the one with the name recognition, most definitely she got their votes. TThis is a non-contest! But if Obama, got 33% without campaigning in FL—just think what will be the margin between him and HC had he been allowed to compete and campaign in the state?

Anyhow, Hillary's statements about seating the delegates is very troubling. She is manipulating the delegates. It would appear that she does not have any credibility and she is someone who will not follow party rules. Rules are rules. They were set down before the primary started–and it says no delegates will be seated.

I am sure all of you are aware of what happened in Michigan when Hillary did not remove her name on the ballot–another clear example of her not following party rules–which she also won, because no other candidates were allowed to campaign.

So if one will look closely, in the states where Obama's campaign is competing with Hillary, he is within striking distance with her based on these results:

HC% BO%
IA - 29.7 37.6
NH - 39.1 36.5
MI - 55.3 (name is not on ballot, but Uncommitted is 40%)
NV - 50.7 45.2
SC - 26.5 55.4
FL - 49.7 33.0 (did not campaign)

(source: New York Times Election Guide 200 8)

Based on the above, Hillary get huge wins, when she has no competition!!!! …. just a food for thought everyone.

KPO'M   January 30th, 2008 12:13 am ET

Something to remember is that Floridians DO vote early. 1/3 of the votes came in BEFORE the South Carolina primary and the endorsements by the influential Kennedys, Senator McCaskill, and Governor Sebelius. Apparently the vote in the last 3 days was pretty evenly split. It's interesting how Clinton didn't seem to care much about Florida (and was even planning on attending a $2,400/plate fundraiser in Chicago today, where Bill was) until she got trounced in South Carolina and decided she needed a "victory" for momentum.

The Decider   January 30th, 2008 12:14 am ET

Just curious but why is this such a big win for Clinton?? She gets beat in SC by 27% and wins in FL by 17% (with no campaigning) supposedly from any candidate. Do the math folks (duh) Her campaign also stated before the IA and NH primaries that the MI and FL primaries weren't going to mean anything until she got beat badly in SC…. All three candidates agreed that this was agreeable with the DNC beings these states set up their primaries. Sad for the democratic party but the rules were made and as usual they meant absolutely nothing to the Clintons. She will probably WHINE enough and get the delegates seated at the convention but that is sad… Not out of disrespect for MI and FL but we have been doing this forever in this nation and if it needs to be changed with states moving their primaries and such than vote or make some ruling on it before the election year. This is really getting to be a drag as long as it has been going on, and I personally don't think Super Tuesday is going to resolve anything. This is going to the convention where Edwards will screw everything up.

greg   January 30th, 2008 12:14 am ET

tyran , u must be either a rep.or an instigator ,,,, try and sway my vote,, with your expert advice,,,, mine are always awaiting some one to see if its offensive,, i happen to see , i spoke of hillary,,,, so i guess, silly rabbit ,, i wil not be seen,, go SENATOR MRS. HILLARY CLINTON, ,,,, silly rabbits also see the future…….. make peace

LR, Houston   January 30th, 2008 12:15 am ET

I am a woman who will fight for women's rights. I would love to see a woman in the White House one day. But not Hillary.

I am also a democrate. But it will be a cold day in H before I will vote in a manipulative liar. I will vote for the Republican candidate if HRC wins the nomination in an attempt to vote her out. I have a feeling alot of other democrats will do the same.

Amy   January 30th, 2008 12:15 am ET

Hillary'08!

Pier Giacalone, NYC, NY   January 30th, 2008 12:15 am ET

Same old garbage from the anti-Hillary camp:

1. Attending fundraisers in FLA was allowed and any candidate was welcome to do it and that's all she did prior to the vote.

2. She wasn't showing special treatment for Floridians over South Carolinians. In SC she lost so she had to move on quickly, but that has nothing to do with the Florida situation. In Florida she wasn't allowed to have a rally until after the vote so she respectfully waited. End of story.

3. Hillary received over 800,000 votes today without even campaigning. 200,000 more than McCain and 300,000 more than Obama.

Sorry Obama sheep. 800,000 Floridians had a vision of real change starting on day 1 and that kind of support in such a pivotal state is going bring the dems back into the White House with Hillary in 2009.

Go Hillary 08!

JohnS   January 30th, 2008 12:15 am ET

The people in NH are very upset; they feel like the Clintons have played them for "suckers." Watch Lou at CNN. Somehow, Hillary promised the VOTERS out there that she would NOT leave her name on the FL ballot!!!!

Ryan   January 30th, 2008 12:15 am ET

Congratulation Hillary. I didn't know it was a good thing to try and win the uncontested states…but now I'm thinking it might be your only hope. I think New York is looking good for you too!

This is so underhanded, so pathetic…how can Clinton supporters rationalize this? I'm sure they will…but I can't believe many Americans will fall for it.

You've won Florida, at what cost?

Patty   January 30th, 2008 12:16 am ET

She should be happy. She had a party without any drinks and they all still came. She got more votes than Ma Cain and the voters still wanted to be heard. I would like to remind John King that Obama and Edwards not going to Florida isn't why she won. Most people only get to know the canidates through TV and the internet. MOST people and voters do not meet them.

joe   January 30th, 2008 12:16 am ET

obama is very rude.

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON FEBRUARY 5TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady Eagle   January 30th, 2008 12:16 am ET

My thanks to sen. Clinton for respecting the voters of Florida. My husband was so upset that none of the candidates made an effort even to say our votes mattered, he was thinking of voting Republican in November. Sen. Clinton did not say thanks for the primary win. She said thanks for the vote of confidence.

Sen. Obama has been advertising here for two weeks. His excuse was it was a national ad buy and could not be excluded. However, Sen. Edwards and Sen. Clinton did not have any ads here. As a matter of fact if you look at the exit polls, they tell a big story. He is going to have problems going into the Super Tuesday states. Check the demographics.

He would have won if folks decided three days ago, but Hillary regained her lead among those who decided today.

Nina   January 30th, 2008 12:17 am ET

All the republicans that say they are voting for Obana has an agenda. They think that if Obama is the nominee, they have won the election. They will vote republican in the general electgion. I am amazed that the Obama supporters have not seen through this.

Ivan, Chicago, Illinois   January 30th, 2008 12:17 am ET

All three candidates remained on the ballot no one campaigned, in Florida but the day before th