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I think it would be complete unfair for the FL delagates to count at this stage. None of the candidates were suppose to campaign there. I don't think Hillary Clinton would have won if Barack Obama would have campaigned there. Hillary knows this that is why she is trying to get these delagates. Florida is always in the middle of an election scandle. And this time it is Hillary Bush, I mean Hillary Clinton. Sometime it is hard to tell a Bush from a Clinton.

I think Obama should be and will be the next president of the United States. It would stand to reason that anyone voting against him is just a racist. Because clearly race aside he is the best candidate of the job. This will be the first year I will vote and be happy and proud to cast my vote for Barack Obama. Every other time I have ever voted I felt like I was forced to pick the lesser of two evils. If people can’t see that Hillary is just as dirty as her husband, they are sadly mistaken. Bill Clinton has all but call Barack Obama the N word. Calling his bid for the White House a fairy tail. Come on Bill what are you implying exactly. And people lets face it if (and the operative word being IF), some how John McCain manages to steal the election like his last lying, conniving predecessor, he will be 72 years old. If we had to endure the same misery of eight year of McCain because America wont wake up. He will be 80 when he leaves office. McCain and Hillary Clinton are more of the same nonsense, inhumane, big business baking politics we have endured from President Can't Form a Sentence or Intelligent Thought Bush. Why do this to America again. Is the country not suffering enough?

WAKE UP AMERICA, Stop sleeping like you have for the past 8 years. We are in enough trouble. Electing Hillary Clinton or John McCain is just asking for more problems. Voting for either one of them is saying you want to lose your job and everything you have if you are not in the wealthiest block of Americans.

Also, to the Latinos out there, you are fighting the same fight as all minorities. Stop letting Hillary Clinton divide the minority vote. IF she becomes the next president, Latinos will be in her rear view mirror, where they will stay. She is no more interested in your concerns than the Republicans. Obama is the only candidate willing to fight for all and bring us all together.

OBAMA 08

Let us work together. I know we can.

As long time D. I will be voting for a r for thr first time if... Hillary and Bill don't put these people in their place.All these people coming out for Obama,have they forgotten what the Clinton did for us.

I' m sick and tired of people calling this a "beauty contest". It's insulting to the almost 2 million people who came out, knowing full well their delegates would not be seated, and voted. The Obama campaign and the media should be ashamed of themselves. As for someone who preaches a new way of doing things that is different than the politics of the past, he sure is showing many "old school political" colors with his comments refering to this primary and yesterdays flattering speech about John Edwards in an attempt to grab his supporters before Edwards himself had a chance to publically forfeit his campaign. The fact that no one campaigned is irrelevant. The people of Florida have just as much access to a tv or computer that the rest of us do, and know full well the character of each of the candidates. Being there in person wouldn't change that save for maybe a very very small percentage of voters. Hilary won very convincingly in a state that mirrors very accurately most of the super tuesday states yet the media seem to be counting her out of this race. I think the media should start thinking about what's best for this country and not what's best for the next days headlines.

Come on!! they have both split campaigned states. If they had counted in Michigan and Florida, Hillary would have probably won.

I support the fact that she showed greatfulness for the people who voted for her and 1.5 million is no joke. This is a strategic move come November. Floridans will remember how she tried to fight for their vote to be counted in the primary. The delegates probably won't count for her now but it was a smart, strategic move.

It was only the right thing to do. Thank a state who voted for you. Can't hate her for being smart.

Hillary – just 5 more days – then they can all shut up!

The only people who decided that Florida doesn't matter are the Florida party leaders. If you don't like it, then complain to them. Florida should have waited until February 5th like the rest of us.

Floridians should be offended by Clinton's manipulation.

By the way, had obama won, it would have been headlines :"OBAMA WON BY A LANDSLIDE" but since Senator Clinton won, it just doesn't count....get real. This story is just what the media chooses to make it.

Every American Citizens vote should be counted and that includes Michigan and Florida. I am a Democrat but do not agree with the DNC...they have no right to take away a citizens right to have their vote counted. I am glad Hillary went to Florida to thank them for their support. The voters of Florida who supposed her, deserve to see and hear her. And remember, Senator Clinton DID NOT CAMPAIGN OR ADVERTISE IN FLORIDA....obama did advertise and that was against the DNC rules.
Lets be fair and honest. Senator Clinton was the fair and honest candidate.

GO HILLARY>>>

Chiman i TOTALLY agree with you.
I want to express my FRASTRATION with media especially CNN the way they covering democratic rase. Hillary is not represented in media, but Obama is. Media is watching Hillary very closely to present any word she says in twisted unflattering way. NO ONE critizises Obama ever… WHY?
Is it because he is black and more than anything people afraid to be called RASIST for critisizing black candidate? Can you amaging what we are getting ourselfs into if he does become president?
Obama accused Hillary of being attack dog although he was the one along with Edwards attacking Hillary in initial debates. After she fought back, he suddenly became a crybaby that cannot handle critizism. Just wait what republicans will do to him if he gets nominated… He is all talk and smiles and no foundation or backbone.

I'm not a repub, and not really a Dem, but one reason I would not vote for Obama is the nasty, childish, and rude name-calling happening here regarding Hillary Clinton, by Obama "supporters". Not sure that I want to be a member of that club....some even speak of voting Repub if their candidate doesn't get the nomination...now, that's pathetic!

Alright then. Lets face it. Both Dem front runners suck, period.

Quick word to everyone who thinks that Hillary campaigned in FL. She didn't. In fact, the only democrat candidate who had a commercial shown in Flordia was Obama and his so-called "national" commercial. "it was aired on CNN and MSNBC and even they said they could not pull it in just Florida." Funny maybe that is why Clinton and Edwards did not have a "national" commercial. The other funny thing, Obama supporters like to claim that CNN is the Clinton News Network; why then are they only airing a commercial for Obama and not Clinton? I am not saying that they are for or against either canidate; just some food for thought.

I voted for Hillary despite the mess in Florida. I have always wanted to vote for her but when the opportunity comes my vote did not count. What incompetent Florida Democratic leaders are! I am very disappointed and ashamed.

Hillary will be interview in (Univision) tonight and promises to legalise all those illegals within her first year in the presidency. Well isn't this amnesty? Such a liar and hispanics are taken for a fool. Can not believe that people can take her for real. Now that they want to use the hispanic votes in exchange for false promises. Just like the republicans do to the Cuban-Americans in South Florida with the promise to help a free Cuban that hasn't happen yet!!!!!!

Other than in Michigan, Obama left his name on the ballot, and despite violating his promise not to campaign in Florida, he ran ads (which none of the other candidates did) and despite all that, he LOST by a substantial margin in a key state – too bad – Florida voters may not have had compaigning candidates to watch up close, but they had media and debates like the rest of the country, and despite the SC results decided to go with the more experienced and qualified candidate, who had more votes than any other candidate (Democrat or Republican) in the primary

If Obama had won and the delegates not seated, the outcry over alleged racism could be heard far and wide, as his skin color is really all he has to offer

OBAMA IS A BAD LOOSER.

HILLARY IS A FIGHTER !!!!!!!!!!!

Reading most of the comments, it seems like to a lot of people race is an issue. They keep mentioning Obama's race. People forget that he is as much black as he is white. He was raised by a 'white' mother and from write ups about his personal life, his 'black' father was no more than a sperm donor. He's probably more 'white' than 'black'! Race should not matter.

I also see nothing wrong in senator Clinton thanking those who voted for her in Florida. But I think it's wrong to try to bend the rules after the results came out. If she did not agree with it, she should have objected to it before yesterday. It's a bit too late now.

I come from a country where during election time all the candidates' dirt come out. I thought it only happens in other countries but not America. Now I see politics is just as dirty here as everywhere else.

I guess if crying twice would seem funny, Hillary would have to find other ways of outdoing other candidates. She knew clearly she will not have the large base of support in her own party so she is charging ahead with everything "not illegal" in the book. This is her strength as well as her weakness.

If the Obama vs. Hillary soap opera continues, our next president won't be a Democrat.

SHAME on the Media for INSULTING the 1.5 million plus Democratic AMERICANS in Florida who went carried out their right to VOTE but later found out that the media ignored their VOICE. The elections are about PEOPLE and Floridians have SPOKEN but their voices are NOT being heard by the nation as Media bolted out on them. Is this what Dr. King would have wanted – to ignore VOICE of Americans living in a specific state(s)? This is so unfair for the people of Florida as their voice is ignored by the MEDIA!

The Florida primary was a fair contest as NONE of the candidates campaigned. Why are the Obama supporters blaming Hilary for winning the contest fair and square and INSULTING the 1.5 million plus Democratic Americans in Florida for their judgment? I bet if Obama would have who won the Florida primary then the same Media would have made it a ‘TOP STORY’ and the same Obama supporters would have been preaching ‘democracy, equality’. Shame on Obama on using Dr. King’s name for political reasons when he can not follow one of the most important teaching of his – ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL.

GO HILARY!! This WIN will count and Media can not fool the Americans. Americans do not want Media to ‘force feed’ Obama to us!!

Joseph wrote: "Every article, there is a mention that the candidates were not allowed to campaign in Florida, but then there is a line that Clinton came to Florida for fundraising. There is always an inference that she is doing something wrong"

Inference Joe?...or observation?
If you fly down and appear in Florida, fundraise, talk to the media at every turn and pander to their voters with a campaign promise of 'seating them at the convention' after signing on to the rules and before they go to the polls...then
Isnt that campaigning? What else could you call it?

Why don't we have national primaries or caucuses on the same day for everyone. This will streamline the process and keep states such as Iowa from using the process for their ecomonic gain.

A primary in Minnesota costs $500,000; caucuses cost the state nothing as they are run by the parties.

Then we do not have to worry about states such as Michigan and Florida from trying to get ahead of Super Tuesday and/or disenfranchising their delegates.

We all make threats about who we will vote for or not vote for if our candidate does not get the nomination but somehow we manage to come together at the last minute.

For Sandra: not every elderly person has dementia. Most of us are intelligent, experienced, informed and wise.

It was really sickening to watch the GANG BANG last night on Hillary Clinton from all the gas bag men not just only from CNN but also the ones from MSNBC.

It was so unfair.... but quite very familiar to those of us women who has to endure that kind of belittling and mocking treatment that we get every day in our lives at work places all across the country as well as around the world.

Sexism is all live and well in American Media.

Change change change we all want change but some things will never change!
The double standard and the witch hunt continues....

Hillary Rodham Clinton won Florida despite not campaigning and running ads there by a huge margin, where as Barack Hussein Obama campaigned by running ads there breaking the dems pact by cheating and still lost there. But CNN and MSNBC all very conveniently left this part of the reporting out last night ...why????
As a citizen I demand an explanation

Florida needs to hold a caucus or new primary election in order to get their delegates seated.
If the legislature weren't so arrogant (yes, I live in Florida) we would not be in this position in the first place.
The only equitable solution is to hold a caucus or another election where everyone follows the same rules.
Of course, we can't do that, because we just voted ourselves a stupid little $240 property tax reduction and we have no money!

I'll try this again, since I got moderated out the last time I posted it.

Remember in Election 2000, when Bush got more delegates but Gore won the popular vote? And how everyone claimed Bush stole the election, since more people actually voted for Gore?

Why, in Election 2000, were votes more important than delegates, but now, delegates mean something but popular votes do not?

Give me your logic, Obama supporters.

Obama folks just need to get over the fact that most white Americans are not going to vote for him. Florida showed that! Stop trying to convince us he is the 'Man'...get over it and realize the only solid candidate that we have to put a democrat in the office is Hillary. Republicans will crush Obama! GO HILLARY!

Clinton Supporters…. why are you getting frustrated…. everyone knows Clinton can win only in no mans land. She has so many disabilities… why are you all back of Obama … first fix your own problems then talk about others. She can now run for actress post in Hollywood. She is very good in acting… watch her face her eyes her smile all so artificial… her campaign shows will be featured in the next Academy Winner for best acting award.

Wake up Clinton supporters … you are so valuable … don't fall down for a stupid lady. Support Hope & believe in change…. Vote for Obama'08.

The votes in Florida have lots of meaning. How would you feel if the votes in your state did not count and one of the candidates felt like your vote does not matter because you have no delegates? The Obama camp feels like the people in Florida do not need to be heard. At least Clinton had the dignity to address the people of Florida even without delegates. That win means a lot Burton. It shows that Florida would rather have Hillary than Obama for president. This is a low blow to the people of Florida to say that their votes have no meaning. The only thing that the Obama cares about is winning delegates. The Obama camp and his followers will be very disappointed come Super Tuesday when Hillary Clinton and her supporters win the democratic nomination. HILLARY 08'!!!!

Clinton Supporters…. why are you getting frustrated…. everyone knows Clinton can win only in no mans land. She has so many disabilities… why are you all back of Obama … first fix your own problems then talk about others. Every American is pissed off with her… she can now run for actress post in Hollywood. She is very good in acting… watch her face her eyes her smile all so artificial… her campaign will be featured in the next Academy Winner for best acting award.

Wake up Clinton supporters … you are so valuable … don't fall down for a stupid lady. Support Hope & believe in change…. Vote for Obama'08.

Well seesh! I decided that I will vote McCain if Obama is nominated!
America! You have to love us! I think! Watch for that hanging thingie!

Who watched the video of the State of the Union and saw Obama snub Clinton? He is so pompous. Obama's true colors are starting to show more and more.. All the Obama supporters who had never even HEARD of Barack Obama 4 months ago will slowly learn that he is as much a politician as anyone else, including the Clintons. This man wants the White House and will also do anything to get there. Note for instance his "present" votes in the IL legislature, he low-down digs at Clinton for innocuous comments on Martin Luther King Jr, etc. I imagine we will all learn many more negative things about Obama in the coming months. I am just shocked at all these people jumping on Obama when they didn't know anything about him and still don't.

Lets see if CNN Obama Central has the courage to post this.

Obama said, and I quote," Florida is a beauty contest". Now, I ask all of you – doesn't that sound sexist to you? Beauty Contest? Is this another example of the latitude given to Obama because of his skin color? CNN and MSNBC are rooting for Obama because of the news coverage his candidacy would create. Hillary Clinton, as a woman, should also be considered a "news maker" as well. But I am calling for this double-standard to stop. If you are not going to call Obama and his campaign manager on the sexist remark – "Beauty Contest", then you should just start blatantly campaigning for Obama. Oh, I forgot, you already are. 1.7 million people can't all be wrong.

Very digusting and dishonest! Where is the justice, or doesn't Hillary Rodham Clinton deserve any?
HRC for President!

Come on CNN! Not a SINGLE story about Obama's late-night decision to return tens of thousands of additional dollars from the Chicago slumlord Renko, who was THIS WEEK arrested for illegal activities? Give me a break; let's be fair and report negative press on both sides. CNN is increasingly biased toward Obama. Obama admitted on national TV this week that he should not have bought property from Renko while he was under federal investigation, but he did. Why? Political support from Renko that goes back decades, and to make a few bucks. Wake up, folks. Obama is shady. Those of you on the Obama bandwagon that had never even HEARD of him 4 months ago should take a closer look; you might be surprised at what you find out. Not to mention what an arrogant person; the snub of Hillary at the State of the Union address shows his true colors. And don't be fooled, he will also do anything to get elected–his regular criticism of Clinton–look at all his "present" votes in the IL legislature for more on that. Nobama in 2008, it is a mistake...

THE EXPERIENCE ISSUIE HAS NOT EVEN ENTERED INTO MY THINKING. LOOK AT THE MESS THE EXPERIENCED ONES HAVE GOTTEN THIS COUNTRY INTO ?

Hillary to me is not someone who I believe will strongly lead this country. I don't want to vote for a corporated manager, but a real leader. Sorry if this offends, but this country will be so divided if she and Bill are elected again.

here goes divisive Hillary, causing a stir with Florida and the DNC what a loser

cannot understand why some of you persist in saying this election was uncontested. Although none of the results matter, Hillary had competition on the Florida Ballot. She received (with 99% of the precints reporting) 857,208 votes compared to 569,041 for Obama and 248,604 for Edwards. Surprisingly enough, Clinton earned more than McCain (693,508) who was awarded 57 delegates for his party. I think this only serves to marginalize our democratic votes in FL who never feel like they matter. They voted in the 2000 general election and their votes were not counted. They voted in the 2008 primary held on January 29 (a date that the voters themselves did not pick) and their votes will not be counted. How fitting it will be when Florida is glaring RED this November.

As a one-time Clinton supporter, I see her decline as pathetic. This Florida rally smacked of Desperation as she sees her base slip away from her. It is her own fault. She represents the past. Her husband wants to re-build his legacy through her accomplishments. They built their "bridge to the 21st century", now let us stay on this side of it and move forward with new leadership. As a lifelong independent, I will vote McCain if she is the nom.

Why in the world would Clinton not thank FL. If she wins doesnt she still need those votes? Seems silly to ignore one of the largest states doesnt it? If it wasn't a real victory then why did CNN spend hald the night talking about it and puting the results up? Weird.

Okay weird did she "promise to get the votes reinstated" or did she promise to do all she could to get them reinstated. semanitcs I know but shouldn't top rate journalists see the difference?

Hey guys, what's wrong with Clinton winning Florida? It shows somehow Democrats are going to kill themselves and lose the November election for not paying attention to the two of the biggest states, Michigan and Florida! What do you think Independents might think? I'm glad Clinton even bother to go to Florida and Michigan. At least, she's trying to say that Americans above party! Show your guts Obama!

@ A voter January 30, 2008 12:39 pm ET

Actually no one campaigned in Florida. The closest you could come to saying that someone campaigned in Florida is the national ad that Obama has on CNN.
Hmmmm Obama and CNN. Yeah, they certainly didn't mind campaigning in Florida.

And lost big!

I am very pleased that Clinton took time to thank Florida for coming out and voting. This is one reason I have changed from Obama to Clinton. Obama should be shamed for not thinking of the people of Florida first. The DNC is trying to push too much weight around. Who cares when people vote as long as it's organized. This was a very organized primary.
Was it not the Dems in 2000 that said all votes must count! Hanging chad, pregnant chad and dimples! What a double standard.
JC

Re-posting after 3 hours of moderation.

I don't think Florida is meaningless. How can anyone look a Floridian in the eyes and say, "I'm sorry, you state screwed up. So you don't count! Ha Ha Ha" You all realize that's basically what everyone but Clinton has said.

I know she's using the situation to her advantage. But, to be honest, that's what she should be doing. This is a presidential primary, not a vote for your favorite flavor of Cool Aid.

ALL VOTES MATTER!!!!!!!!! Is this is a democracy or a selective democracy? Here's a clue….. One is an oxymoron.

Does Obama really think that buy showing us this statement now, if he is the nominee and comes to FL, Repubs will have their linefor it already.
This coming statement is hypothetical – "Obama did not care about the 1.5 million voters in early '08, because they were in favor of Clinton, now thats he is the DEM nominee he says he cares about the people in FL. Where was that care just early this year, how do you know if he really cares about anyone!"

People who talk about voting for the other party if their candidate (Obama or Clinton) doesn't win might want to remember the importance of the Supreme Court. We have some elderly justices, and we don't want them chosen by a Republican president. With Bush's help, the Supreme Court is already leaning WAY to the right.

I am a Florida voter. None of the more than a million Democratic voters who voted yesterday asked to be disenfranchised, and I'm shocked that others don't find this appalling. Unfortunately, voters cannot control the actions of legislators, especially when the Republican governor says he will veto any change in the date demanded by the DNC.

Florida's votes should not count. They didn't follow the rules.

Sue – Give me a break. If you have been alive more than 15 years, you have to know Hillary Clinton's history. Clinton is in this for herself. She could care less about "the people". She wants to collectthese delegates and win "at any cost."

The bottom line here, folks, is Hillary won nada! No matter how you dissect last nght in FL – she won nothing, nada, zilch, zero – It didn't count and won't count – a hollow victory with no crown or trophy. But, aren't those Clinton backers happy campers over this "type of victory". Makes one wonder just what type of president she/he Clinton would be since the truth and reality escapes them and Bill as First Mate – no way! Also, note: why the heck, if I lived in FL, would I go out and vote for something that doesnt count – which is probably what the majority of the dem. voters did – and that, folks – would be the TRUE yardstick.

Can anyone tell me where I can find detailed information on Hillary's 35 years of experience which she touts as the basis for her being the best candidate for President. Besides being a Senator what has she done which is significantly different than others. Please don't tell me meeting Heads of State as the First Lady counts. Hillary needs to change the impression of what folks think about her. Downplaying a shallow victory in Florida would have been a nice start. It is a shame to say but most folks outside of Florida could care less about how and who they vote for because this is another instant where they simply can't get it right when it comes to elections.

newra – people like you are dispicable blow hards. You are either too stupid or too lazy to be able to say what you believe in, yet can do nothing but spew on about your hatred for Bill and Hillary who, unlike you, have been fighting for what they believe in for years.
As for what you think about the victory party after the Florida primary, we dont really care what someone as spineless and gutless as you thinks. When you can come up with some sort of coherent idiology, let us know. Otherwise, just slither back under that hillbilly rock where you came from.

A Voter – The real complete moron is you. If you're going to spew hate, at least get your facts straight. Hillary, loke the other candidates did not campaign in Florida. Speaking of sleazy, what do you call trashing someone with lies like you just did? Go to school, get an education and try and do something worthwhile with your life. Why do they let such idiots vote?

If Florida's votes are allowed to count, the DNC will be opening a can of worms. They will lose control of the election process from here out. Any state will pick whatever date it wants to, and vote whenever they please – and they will be able to use this as a precedent.

Michael, we're really going to miss you. Please don't go.

I don't know who you support, but I'm hoping it's Hillary, cause you come across as a real a$#

Love,

Lemmings

people are so ignorant…all the candidates were listed in the ballot and no one campaign except Obama even though it was through cnn he found a loop hole…what a president..and to those people saying Florida doesn't count are you saying that 1.6 million people don't count. And let me make something clear Obama won in South carolina with 260,000 votest against hillarys 167,00 a different of about 100,000….but in Florida were no one campaign that includes hillary she won 860,000 against Obama's 460,000 a different of about 300,000 votes. So people are saying these votes don't count…Next yes I have to admit that Obama is inspirational when he speaks but he lacks substance and the only reason Ted Kennedy, Kerry and other Top senators went for Obama is because they know politically it is much easier to manipulate a person like Obama in the white hose rather than have someone as strong as hillary…So think about that Obama supporters…BTW Hitler was a great inspirational speaker….we need someone who doesn't need to be trained or use the white house as training ground…and the miliary deserves better than a new guy…its like putting a 2LT in charge of an Army it doesn't work because you need more experience like 35 more years….so and if you people are saying im stupid and ingorant you better have a B.S. degree from West Point, a Masters in Internatinal Relations from Georgetown, and a Ph.D in political science from Georgetown and also served in army fro 10 years including 2 years in IRAQ….

United States Marine Corp

Thank you for your service and for defending my freedom. However your "book smart" degrees do nothing for me. Especially when it's obvious you're lacking in common sense.

And the same goes for me a voter if little obama wins!

McCain b/c he is not insane...sounds like a ryhmy little obama speech...

obama is a game, he talks about bringing people together, what happened to being a good sportsman, he should have spoken and be very diplomatic with Hillary at the State of union , HE IS A PHONY !
I hope Hillary wins and all these same old boys club of ganging up against her and the media back-up. give the woman a chance.

Of all the leading candidates of both parties, Hillary is the only candidate I cannot and will not vote for and I used to love the Clintons and voted for Bill twice. Over time my opinion of the both of them changed, and what I see is not what I like or want in a president . Personally I'm not all that ga-ga over the Democratic party that just because someone's a Democrat that somehow it makes that person the better candidate. I vote candidate over party every time. I think most people do. As as example, here in Indiana, we have 2 very popular senators, one Democrat and one Republican. Seems like a lot of people crossing party lines to vote for the best candidate. And that's the way it should be. If that makes me a "sore loser" to a Hillary-ite, I'm proud to be one!

Politics is a dog eat dog game. Are people that blind and ignorant to the fact that the majority of politicians talk a lot of crap. Its about convienceing you to vote for them. Obama just seems like he is full of hot air. He snapped back at Hilliary, if he wants to prove that he is above the mud slinging than be a man and just not respond. Come on he even turn his back towards her. He is like a used car salesman that would say anthing to get you to buy a car.

Stop bashing Hilliary because she is a woman. There are so many women that are positive role models and this country needs one. We have had enough men try to run this country and left us disappointed. Its time for a change.

If Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, John McCain is getting my vote in the general election and I have NEVER voted republican before. I respect John McCain and I respect what he stands for (and won't stand for) but I can not say the same for Hillary Clinton. I've only recently (since the beginning of her candidacy for president) felt this way...I've seen a different side of her and her husband and it's ugly, kniving, and underhanded.

Bottom line: Hillary will not be a strong enough leader for this country. Plus, she will bring with her too much baggage which equals animosity.

I am a lifelong Democrat and I have been extremely disappointed in CNN 's biased reporting in favor of Obama. It's CNN's job to report on the electoral process, not to try and influence it's outcome. You are no better than Fox News.

Although no Democrats were supposed to campaign in Florida, Hillary made 4 fundraising visits to the State, and when she showed up before the polls were closed in the panhandle of Florida, I saw all kinds of Hillary banners and signs, so I suspect she was campaigning just by showing up in a much-publicized future trip to the State after Election Day. She also publicly called for Florida delegates to count, although she supposedly had signed the agreement to avoid the State.

She clearly violated the rules that she and the Democratic Party agreed to pretending to want to "give Floridians their voice". Apparently the rules don't apply to the Clintons. Where was she last Sat. night in Columbia, SC when she left town without even acknowledging her supporters there...she was already on her way to Tenn. I certainly hope that the people of Fla. and the rest of the country are smart enough to see through the disgusting antics of the Clintons.

the difference between barack obama and hillary clinton:

obama: "i hope the voters are smart enough to vote for me"

clinton: "i hope the voters are stupid enough to vote for me"

it's very simple...barack obama relies on people being smart enough to look at the facts. hillary clinton relies on the stupidity and ignorance of the average american voter.

will america be smart enough in 7 days?

I'm from Michigan, and it is plainly obvious what Hillary is doing. She wants an unfair advantage in the nomination. We didn't have a chance to vote for Obama in michigan, just uncommited, and Florida did not have an opportuniy to get to know the delegates up close.

But I have a suprise for her, i will vote fo republican in she becomes the niminee, and that is no9t just talk. Think what you want.

I'll never cast a vote for a slime ball with no ethical sense. Is that what you want in office? Obama 2008, otherwise i'll vote for mccain.

The Obama ad did not violate the rules. If it did, then John Edwards and Hill did as well because they have had ads on the FOX, CNN, MSNBC in the last few months. There was no Florida airtime bought.

If Hillary was truly concerned for the rights of Florida voters, she would have filed a lawsuit a few months ago. There could have been a decision and then all the contenders and all the voters of Florida would have known that their vote did count or didn't count. The DNC made it very clear that the votes would not count and not just the contenders but the voters reacted.

I congratulate Obama and Edwards for being adults and following the rules!

To Newra,

Read Time Magazine's article – Obama's Varied Record. it talks about his experience, position on issues, and the accomplishments that made him famous. it will open your eyes.

If nobody enforces the rules, then what is to stop any state from voting whenever they want to, regardless of what the DNC says?

I live in PA, which is a huge state with alot of people, and I'm sick of voting last and having no say in these elections – while much smaller states like Iowa vote first and determine the direction of the campaigns and who drops out or stays, long before I even get to vote!!

How about if my state thumbed its nose at the DNC and just decided to move its date up and vote whenever it wanted to? Would that be fair? I'd say yes, because I'd like to have some say, too. But there are rules. So why should Florida be allowed to do it and get away with it, but nobody else?

The Florida votes don't count – period. That was agreed to by all parties involved, including Clinton and Obama. Don't blame either campaign – blame the powers that be in Florida, who decided to move up their primary anyway, even after being told their votes would not count if they did.

Hillary – no FL delegates for you.

This leaves me cold!

Democrats in Florida have every right to cast their ballots and the party frankly has short changed the Party, tha candidates and the Nation. That said, I am not impressed with Clinton for spinning this.

CNN is complicate in the fraud and have fixated on anything but substantive issues. The best political team on TV? Well the most sold on themselves I think.

If you want to live in the past with job continuing to move oversea and move backward while the rest of the world (especially China) move forward, vote for the Clintons (plural).

If you want to live for present & future (caring for next generation, your children, your grandchildren, etc) and move forward with the rest of the world (catching up with China) then vote for the best candidate, regardless which party.

My 2 cents and I am an Independent & a grandmother.

Bottom line: Republicans are looking for change, too, and have dismal field in the GOP to vote for. They will NOT vote for Hillary, this is crucial. I am an independent, but a former Repub myself. I am also a veteran and a wife and mother. I strongly support Obama, he is real and the only hope. Go OBAMA!!!

Go Vegeterian – THANK YOU. I have been pleading to them but no one will listen.

Hitlary has no integrity and will do anything to win. The country does not need another shot of Clintoons.

Look, I agree that no state should be left out of the process. BUT states like Florida and Michigan knew precisely what was going to happen if they front-loaded their elections. The Democratic Party made no secret of that. But they decided to do it anyway, daring the Party to keep their words. And they did.

They broke the rules of the game, so they should rightfully suffer the consequences.

Hillary should not receive any delegates from Michigan or Florida, because it was already agreed upon by ALL the Dem candidates that there would be no delegates. And neither should Obama, frankly. In fact, had Obama won Michigan or Florida, I don't think he would have wanted the delegates from there either.

I used to be a huge admirer of the Clintons, especially Hillary. But after seeing the kind of tactics they are willing to use to win, I will sooner burn my ballot before I vote for Hillary.

I don't understand why Florida votes didn't count for the Democrats? Why the Democrat Committee stripped the deligates? Not sure why. Hillary not getting any deligates in Florida but when November comes, she should get the real vote during election right?

Obama should not mock Hilliary as Beauty Contest in Florida...what a JERK!

Umm, Hillary.....I hate to break this to you but you "won" exactly SQUAT!

Nobody campained here in FL. You cannot "win" if there is no competition.

As much as I cannot trust or for that matter, stomach the Republicans, it is cheap garbage like this that keeps me from joining the Dems.

Just pathetic all-around.

This Independent says:

Vote: None of the Above '08!

Clinton is a complete moron. No one campaigned there but her, there are no delegates. Now she wants to go against the agreed rules and seat their delegates, because she won a contest against no competitors.

She is such a slezy joke. She'll never get my vote for th general election. i'll vote for Mccain instead.

Won? You call a race where no one campaigned against you a win? What a fair tale.

Look again pricess, Barack wasn't THAT far behind you and he held true to his word not to campaign there. And don't you Clinton bloggers bring up that "ad" again. It was a national ad and does not in any way break any campaign rules for Florida.

So, let's see what happens in a real campaign on Super Tuesday. Everyone whose state is a part of that event has a chance to go out and vote. I doubt that Bill's current "nice guy" routine will erase his actions over the last few weeks.
It hasn't been that long back.

I do not think there is hate for either candidates, I think people are so wrapped up in winning the battle things get out of hand. I think our country is in such bad shape , the last thing we need is hatred. Obama can do the job. GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!

Denial of representation to not sit the delegates. Florida and Michigan should count!

Hillary in 08

The whole primary system is unfair and broken. All 50 states should hold a primary on the same day.

I don't know who the real Clintons are.?

The Florida votes don't count – period. That was agreed to by all parties involved, including Clinton and Obama. Don't blame either campaign – blame the powers that be inFlorida who decided to move up their primary anyway, even after being told their votes would not count if they did.

If the rules are not enforced, then why couldn't any state vote whenever they wanted to? I live in PA, which is a huge state with alot of people, and I'm sick of voting last and having no say in these elections, while much smaller states like Iowa vote first and determine the directionof the campaigns. How about if my state moves its date up and votes whenever it wants to? Would that be fair? I'd like ot have some say, too. Why should Florida be allowed to do it and get away with it, but nobody else?

To answer you Jay, we do not feel that Hillary's win does not count because of sour grapes. We are saying because it was determined before the counting took place. Ages 18-29 did not even vote because they knew it did not count. Hillary won in Nevada but Obama won the delegate votes and recent polls show Obama ahead in the delegate vote.let us see what happens since Edwards has dropped out GO OBAMA

This should really tell you who is really for the American people and not just talking about it. As a follower of Senator Obama, it was very disappointing to hear the feedback regarding the vote in Florida. I guess, it he is not going to get and delegates out of the state he does not care. At least Senator Clinton thanked the people of Florida who voted; Obama's camp laughed it off and said it didn't count. If Senator Obama is the Democratic candidate, I hope the deciding votes do not come down to the state of Florida, (oh wait, didn't that happen already) I have a feeling the voters will not easily forget the responses from Obama's camp.

Change-ing to Clinton

Will be fun to see who gets the white male vote now that John is gone.
Take a peek at the Obama rally today in Denver. Huge! Not many delegates in CO tho.

After watching the primaries in the first few weeks it show how fragmented this process is, it show be a standard followed by all states and to insure that all all counted. It seems the more intelligent that we have become we turn it into a disaster.

You all need to calm down and take time to consider every candidate's qualification, experienced on many issues, etc. instead of speaking ugly unthinkable things about the candidates. Their desires to new changes are similiar but maybe slightly few different ones. Very immature to see many of you talk ugly about Hillary but it's a fact - she truly cares about people just like Obama and Edwards. It's not necessary to talk foul or ugly things about any of the candidates because they all are human beings just like we are.
Indeed, I am supporting Hillary!

What is scary to me is some of these comments are not based on the truth.
There are ways to double check yourself before you comment.
One example – Hillary did not, has not, and will not state that Obama snubbed her.
That would be the media that started that.

I see so many comments that are based on false information.

I personally think that Hillary DID have a victory last night.
As a matter of fact it was a huge victory.
She did not campaign there – she and Obama both had ads running, and had fund raisers but that's it.
If that had been a general election in FL, she owuld have won – she had mores votes than McCain! I respect her for going to FL and thanking ALL of the people who voted for her. Don't fool yourself that Obama would not have done the same thing. Come on – they would have been all over it.
And Hillary started discussions about the DNC delegate issues some time ago, not after she won last night. So, let's be fair.
This is a tight contest – and face it – they are ALL in it to win.
For me – the debate Thursday night will be the tell all – I only hope the the questions are geared towards letting the whole country see exactly what each candidate is really all about. Isn't that the most important thing? It should not be about who gives the best speech..........there is much more at stake here.....

Jay-

Actually, we would care if Obama got more votes and came here sniffing around to get the delegates put back in AFTER many Floridians made the decision NOT to vote BECAUSE the whole delegate situation stripped them of their rights.

WE, Obama supporters, would NOT support HIM doing that, NOR do we support any other CHEATER!!!!!!!! THAT is WHY we support OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE wouldn't do that!!!!!!!!!!!! HE honored his SIGNED PLEDGE not to campaign here!!! More than I can say for Hillary. HE is HONORABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CNN reporters and commentators could not emphasize enough the make-up of Obama, Clinton, Edwards supporters according to race, sex, and age. Following the Florida primary there is a conspicuous absence of those numbers.

What's the problem? Do they not support your presumptuous analysis?

Are you all from the Springer Show or what? You know this and you know that. You know JACK. No one knows! Cast your vote and pay attention in the coming months. Talk about being brain washed......................whew!!

Tom, you have nothing to feel guilty about. Vote with your mind, not your guilt.
Obama has no guilt over how he feels about you.
In his book, Dreams of My Father, Obama writes, "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

As an independent, I have been watching very carefully to see what's goinig on with both side. I think the republicans have a long way to go, none of the lot wholely represents what I want in the White house. Neither do the Democrats, but I can tell you this, mine would definately be an anybody but Billary vote if it comes down to it.

As for the Florida Primary, I think, Hillary should not have thrown a "victory" party.

And for Obama, I think he has some good idea's and it would be nice to have someone in Washington that hasn't been there forever, but I' still not exactly sure about his positon on a lot of things. Change is good, sometimes, but I want to know what kind of change he wants to initiate.

Our Country will die slowly if Hill is elected. Many countries that US has ties with look at women as property. They will down play her as being serious because they don't respect the women in their own countries, what makes you Hill supporters feel that they will respect her.

I think this just removed the last shred of respect I had for Hillary.

What a pathetic way to try and gain fake momentum going into Super Tuesday. Only the uninformed will buy into that. But sadly, Clintonian politics prey on the manipulation of the uninformed.

People, you act like the only reason the Democrats went to vote was for the Presidential Primary. There were lots of other measures and local primary votes on those ballots – so people had a lot of reason to go vote – not just for the Democratic Nominee. These issues needed the Democrats votes on them – they were important to the state and the people there.

Extremely disappointed in CNN's coverage of Florida primary, allowed Hillary Clinton to be posted as the winner throughout the entire primary coverage with very little real analysis as to the democratic pledge of no campaigning, how her name recognition and early voting would surely work to her advantage in this environment. How could Wolf Blitzer not ask her even one question about the ethics of going back on her written word by now demanding that Florida be counted? You allowed her to make a victory speech and gave her free publicity air-time, very unfair, and I speak as a former fervent defender of the Clinton's.
She had no time to stay in South Carolina after her defeat and personally thank those thousands of supporters and workers who showed up and voted for her, but of course had time to fly down to Florida and glorify a lowly win for her candidacy...and you gave her great coverage every step of the way. I watch CNN often, not just in election years, but I think this was very disappointing coverage.

How can anyone outside of her family vote for this woman who is the queen of spin. Every mentally functioning person knows that michigan and florida was not even a contest this year.

How she can claim victory when she agreed along with the rest of the candidates that michigan and florida would not count is ridiculous. she is looking more and more desperate as the days go on.

this lady is not honest nor credible that is why the intelligent people are flocking to obama.

Hillary Clinton won a primary and gave a victory speech in a campaign (disguised as fund raisers) that she pledged not to campaign in and now is asking for the votes to count ; how shameless can you get????
How can I honestly vote for her?? when she is showing us that she will do anything to win. My gut feeling is that she wants the white house so bad that she will do and say anything to get a win and that makes me nervous because that type of zeal can be dangerous to us as a nation.
Therefore, my advice to you Hillary shameless is to go home to your Husband and shut the back door on your way out……………

I must congratulate Wolf Blitzer, you caught HIllary Clinton off-guard with your question of whether she was prepared to do a law suit to seat the Florida Delegates. Two very noticeable things came out in her answer: 1) she stuttered before she caught herself – she wanted to say yes – but stuttered, realizing that saying yes would give a lot of ammunition to the DNC and the other campaigns. 2) she did not say "NO" – so by default, it means that she is considering a law suit. She won't be blatant about it, but believe me, they will try it if she believes that is the only way she can get elected. I am sure that her legal team has already prepared a brief, and has shared it with both the Florida and Michigan Democratic Parties (those in it that support her). That way the parties can do the law suits, and then her team can just file a brief as "Friends of the Courts". Hillary and Bill have proven in the last two Primaries that they are willing to do anything to get her the nomination, no matter what it does to the Democratic Party and its people.
This is a simple issue, the Parties did not have to move their Primaries forward. They could have left them where they were. When they did move them forward, the DNC placed reacted, maybe too harshly, but within their right to strip them of their delegates. Was that the right thing to do? That is not the debate here – however, the wrong thing for Hillary Clinton to do is to drag the Democratic Process through her ego drenched mud. She is not doing anyone, especially the Democratic Party nor the people in Florida or Michigan any good by putting her ego before the process. The process was defined by the DNC – and all personnel need to abide by it – fairly, honestly, and with integrity (though it appears that those three words have no meaning to the Clintons).

American beware ..hillary is already breaking the rules ..she cant be trusted just like her husband...Vote Obama if not Vote McCain!!

Please tell me Americans are not so stupid as to fall for more years of Clinton drama and slime?

I wonder:
– how CNN would report this if Obama had won capturing close to 900,000 votes from a crucial state, beating even McCain's Republican figures
– how the Democratic Party rules would disenfranchise the state where they lost the Presidential election in 2000
– how the Democratic Party Establishment may have to correct the party rules to allow for these delegates to be seated so that the people will be heard.

Every article, there is a mention that the candidates were not allowed to campaign in Florida, but then there is a line that Clinton came to Florida for fundraising. There is always an inference that she is doing something wrong.

Why is it when there is a positive event for Clinton, CNN has to put it down, and no matter how small a news for Obama, it is the best thing that ever happened?

Bill Schneider did a good Q&A about the Florida primary, indicating that the Democratic Party would have a hard time not seating delegates from a state as signficant as Florida. Why don't you quote that piece here?

It's funny how people still keep taking swipes at Hillary about "the sunb" that she hasn't even commented on. The media started all the hoopla yesterday about the snub and Obama is the one who has had to defend himself, so get your facts straight before you start slamming Hillary and saying that she had anything to do with it!

I also can't believe Obama would say that Floridians didn't know what was going on with the candidates because they hadn't been allowed to campaign there. What a slap in the face to the people of Florida! They do have TV and computers in the Sunshine state and know how to use them!

Go Hillary '08!

The decision of the Democratic Party to deny seats to all of its Florida delegates was unfortunate. But to try and change that decision and reinstate them now, after none of the candidates campaigned there (which by the way they all agreed with at the start), is simply wrong. I respect both Obama and Hillary a great deal, but her decision to call this a win and push for the seating of the delegates taints her as manipulative and unfair. I would like nothing more than to see a female President, but her decisions and tactics of late have soured me to this particular female as President. Play fair!

For Jay January 29, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

I am an Obama supporter and I can tell you in my own opinion...Florida is being punished for something they did wrong (much like we were as children). It does not matter who won the state or by how much. What matters is that the DNC needs to be strong and not give in or else they will not have respect in any of the states.

If Hillary is successful in her request to obtain the Florida delegates, it will turn the clock back to when another politican, BUSH, made Florida more of an issue than it should have been. The results, he was elected president. Now Clinton supporters, don't get happy. I'm not saying she will win.

OBAMA/EDWARDS 08!!!!!!!

Typical Clinton: Lying, cheating and stealing to get elected.

I've given up trying to argue with everyone. There are a few wise posters that seem to have a good grasp on what is really going on here, but the rest of you people are flat-out idiots. You're too superficial and lazy. All of your 'concrete' arguments are based on opinions. You feed too much on what is said rather than doing any research of your own. This leads you to pitch your own misinformed ideas to other superficial, lazy 'thinkers'. It propagates and leads to a discussion (term used loosely) about as intelligent as two people using a ruler to argue over the length of an inch.

Good luck, lemmings.

Give the lady a break!!! It wouldn't matter what she did, she would have erred in someone's mind. I'd like everyone to think about how much guff she's taken from the media, the debating Republicans (when she's not even there to defend herself), and the nostalgic Hillary-bashers, and see how the strain and stress of that would impact your lives. But, she is resilient, hard-working, and TOUGH AS NAILS. I know men that would have gone crying to their mamas by now!!

Go Hillary!!

Ugh. If anyone wants to be mad at something, it should be the Florida State legislature. They are the ones that ignored party rules and moved their primary ahead of everyone else. The actual primary season starts Feb. 5th. Only Iowa, NH, SC and NV, under the rules allowed to go first before the official start of the primary season. So all you Hillary lovers and FL residents should go complain to the Floriday State legislature. The DNC warned them to not move ahead of Feb. 5th,they ignored them and went and did it anyway. Actions have consequences.

And again the Obama ads where placed on national stations like CNN and MSNBC. The stations themselves said they could not prevent the commercial from being sent to just FL. If the local cable operator wanted to make the effort to sell air time for local commercials to cut in over the Obama ad they could have.

And we won't rehash again how the Clintons love to change the rules mid game to suit their objectives

B.O. once said that this is election is not about him, but about the people. But when the people of Florida spoke, and when their message wasn't favorable to him, he immediately dismisses their voices as being worthless. Again, he's contradicting himself.

All the while, he thinks that this is election is for him, for collecting delegates only. His recent actions show his true character that his words couldn't hide. He's only there to haul delegates for his AMBITION, not to champion the people's voice.

If something TRUE is said that is against him, he quickly BRANDS IT AS LIES.
If some REAL RESULT (like Florida's primary) comes out that isn't for him, he DECLARES IT AS MEANINGLESS.
If something about his PAST RECORDS (like the "present" votes and Rezco deals) appears and demands his explanation, he EVADES TO SET IT STRAIGHT.
If he wins a state using his AA race card, but loses another state in the backlash, he SPINS it as being due to his failure to campaign in the latter.

We've seen enough B.O. to conclude that he is NOT the kind of change that America wants and needs to improve our lives. Everyone, WAKE UP!

I dont see Obama's name pulled out of the FL ballot... and yet you all pro-Obama supporters said he was a saint by pulling his name out of MI ballot and wouldnt Hillary a time of day when her name is still on it and won the primary... Obama probably thought he can beat Hillary in FL or lose in a small margin... but instead, he loses by 17points and he played down the win.. I understood why you pro-Obama would think MI win is nothing since OBama and Edwards are not in the ballot, but all the names are in the FL ballot. And getting those 50%, almost a million votes, says something about Hillary. She did not campaign in the state too mind u... and she did not air a "national" ad in FL like Obama did... and to those who thinks she's breaking the rules of the DNC, she did not.... so fair is fair... You pro-Obama would probably shoutt RECOUNT if there were delegates involved. But either way, the voice of the people should be heard...

But then you guys will see... on super tuesday, Obama is only leading in IL and CO polls... As some of you pro-Obama supporters trust the polls so much as you had in New Hampshire polls, Hillary should win NY, MA, NJ, and CA... by large margins... But i can imagine if obama wins these states, you guys will be jumping and celebrating and telling us Hillary supporters to vote for Obama instead coz he is for "change", but if Hillary wins CO or IL, you guys will shout RECOUNT... what a joke...

Ugliness all around on this story. Shame on the DNC for the nonsensical dropping of certain state delegates, and shame on Clinton for boasting about a victory that, according to those rules shouldn't exist. Just because I don't agree with the rules doesn't mean I approve of disregarding them.

Media, Media Media, How do you ignore 1.3 million people.
Pepole who you told to stay home and they refused not to be heard

How do you win a national election without Florida, you don't go Senator Clinton

That is why we could care less about your poll

Hillary's vote in Florida was more than Obama got in all of the past states that just voted. Go Hillary!

Another huge victory for Hillary.

Hillary 2008 !

It takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush !

SC was a tie: 18 delegates for each (isn't that how your camp spins things)?

Most of the white vote in SC is republican and even more will be for McCain if Obama wins! Learn your STATS! Obama only got 25% of the SC white vote (EVEN LESS IN FL – 23%). These are the facts: blakc and white.

Hillary Clinton is exactly whats wrong with Washington today. She has ZERO integrity and will say or do anything for personal gain. If elected , she brings with her a house divided and another do nothing congress.

To JohnS,

You state: "Wake up people; other nations truly and correctly laugh at us in the US because most of us are so uninformed, ignorant.. you name it!!!"

What do do think about the SC voters? Were they duped by SC Congressman Clyburn, the Obama camp, and the press?

It is sad that the TV and printed presses (including the commemtators and pundits) INJECT RACE to the Democratic's Presidential Race.

The media FOOLISHLY took the baits from Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn and turns the "fairy tale" comment by former President Clinton, and the "MLK and Johnson" comment by Senator Clinton into the race issue. The fairy tale and MLK and Johnson comments from the Clintons are factual and are NOT racial.

The media took the “race card” spins from Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn. The truth is the Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn play the race card and successfully manipulated the press.

Congressman Clyburn is NOT neutral. There is nothing wrong for Congressman Clyburn to perform his civic duty by voting for Senator Obama at the polling place. However, Congressman Clyburn is disingenuous for manipulating the press (particularly Joe Scarborough) to wrongly accuse the Clintons of playing the race card.

I witness Congressman Clyburn used Joe Scarborough of the Morning Joe shown on the S.C. election day. On this particular show Congressman Clyburn implied that the Clintons' "fairy tale" and "MLK/Johnson" comments are RACIALLY MOTIVATED code words. Joe Scarborough stupidly bought Congressman Clyburn race-bait's trick.

Clinton Supporters.... why are you getting frustrated.... everyone knows Clinton can win only in no mans land. She has so many disabilities... why are you all back of Obama ... first fix your own problems then talk about others. Every American is pissed off with her... she can now run for actress post in Hollywood. She is very good in acting... watch her face her eyes her smile all so artificial... all her campaign will be featured in next Academy Winner for best acting.

Wake up Clinton supporters ... you are so valuable ... don't fall down for a stupid lady. Support the Truth and Hope.... Obama'08.

Hillary supporters will back their candidate no matter what.

Fact is:
- Hillary's "35 years" of service is the biggest overstatement of all time.
- If not for Bill, Hillary would be a nobody. A nobody.
- Half the country absolutely hates her. Hates her.
- Women who vote for her just because she is a woman are sexist.
- She is running a dirty campaign...one even her supporters acknowledge.
- Even if she wins the primary, she cannot, will not win the general election.
- OBAMA is the better human being, candidate, and politician and you know it.

I'm not really a political person but I have been very interested in this election. I do not understand why delegates are not allowed because of holding early "elections". It seems to me the people of these states are being penalized not just the delegates. Correct me if Im wrong but doesn't that mean; No delegates......No representation for the people, if that is so that is unacceptable.

First, why everyone calling it a victory that does not count. Do these people think democrats can win in November without florida and michigan? If not why turn you back on eligible voters of two states in the union, who have every right to get their voices heard and their decision be the part of the collective decision to choose the next president of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Secondly, why call hillary`s victory a sham. Did she actively campaigned in florida and other candidates did not? I think not. Did she held fund raisers in florida and other candidates did not? According to Dana Brazil (DNC), certainly not. Did her surrogate tried to influence the voting there? Absolutely not. So if unions wanted to vote democrats only on the provisions on the ballot, the voters had that choice, right. So in spite of that if hillary managed to musted almost one million votes in florida, I think democrats need to be proud of the fact that there is such voter enthusiasm in florida. Its pathetic that this election is becoming a superball contest played by media, which will create a hype of a victory for obama in a ethically bifractional state like South Carolina, but ignore the victory for Hillary in an ethically divers state like florida. Remind you all, most states up for vote next tuseday, fall in second category. So people supporting obama get ready for the next wednesday morning, when the MEDIA BUBBLE OF OBAMA BURSTS IN HE THIN AIR!!! By getting ready to the posibility at least it will not hurt too much. About hillary, she absolutely apprears to know how to handle defeat after Iowa and cherish her victories after nevada and yes flrida. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN 2008. CHEERS!!!!

mommyof3inga- Its not the number of people in the state, its the number of registered democrats. I don't know this for a fact, but the media reports that in S.C. the numbers are 55%AA and 45% for rest . Obama had a solid win in S.C. and it included a 20% white vote. I do beleive that,as we move into super tuesday we will see a different distribution of the vote.

JUST SEEMS TO ME IF HILLARYCARED ABOUT THE VOTERS OF MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA SHE SHOULD HAVE URGED BOTH OF STATES NOT TO MOVE UP THERE ELECTIONS.IT SEEMS PHONY TO ME TO CLAIM YOU CARE AFTER THE FACT!

Let's get this right, Obama supporters are bashing Hillary for wanting to seat the Florida people, after, or if she wins the nomination, and somehow its twisted into Hillary wants Florida's primary vote to count? Hmmm, something seems amiss since she never stated that at all, in fact she made it perfectly clear that she would have those chosen Floridians and Michigan del.. be seated after the nominee is picked so that those two states would have a say so in the final nomination process or what some might say the horse and pony show of the Democratic convention. Reality, what a concept and obviously something our poor educated young voters just can't quite grasp.

For those 'cry baby Obama supporters': The Florida primary was a fair contest as NONE of the candidates campaigned. Why are you blaming Hilary for winning the contest and INSULTING the 1 million plus Democratic Americans in Florida who went out and exercised their right. This is so unfair for the people of Florida as their voice is ignored by the MEDIA!
GO HILARY!

Obama is the ONLY democrat that craw draw both democrats, independents and SOME republicans to the polls. Hillary can't even get most democrats and she expects to win the general election?

If Obama is the nominee he has a better chance at beating whom ever the Republican is than Hillary.

SHAME on the Media for INSULTING the 1 million plus Democratic AMERICANS in Florida who went out to carry out their right to VOTE but later finding out that the media ignoring their VOICE. The elections are about PEOPLE and Floridians have SPOKEN but their voices are NOT being heard by the nation. Are we to believe that MEDIA has more power than PEOPLE? I have never seen Media being so PARTIAL and helping one particular candidate in whatever way they can block any good news abot the other candidate in wahtever way they can.
GO HILARY!!!

She showed gratitude to those people who voted for her.

Obama has NO GRATITUDE because there was nothing in it for him.
People actually voted for him. His name was on the ballot in Florida.
Unlike Michigan where Obama turned his back on the people there.
He has NO COMMITMENT to the people of Michigan.

No Thank You, Obama !!!

How can the Clintons have the moral authority to ask anyone to play by the rules. We are back to parsing the meaning of the work "is". The only rule for the Clintons is ME ME ME ME MATTERS MOST.

It is all name recognition...If the 850000 people who voted for Hillary had heard Obama speak to them, I bet you 30% would vote for him. There goes the equation. Most of this folks who voted are absentees and did not see or hear the kind of people the Clinton's were. But, the revelation has been very obvious now and the result per the exit poll shows that they have the majority of the votes on those that decided the last week or so. So, good bye Mrs. Clinton.

Hillary if you had lost Florida would you still be asking for it to count?

No. You are a hypocrite.

Hey folks,
Take a deep breath and listen to the silence for just a minute. This moment of silence was brought to you by the Clinton campaign. Billy was put in the corner with duck tape on his mouth for awhile. Its a good thing for hillary. however she doesn't no what to do or say without him!

It is laughable that Obama's camp said they did not Campaign – he ran ads all week in Florida. Also, do they not have TV and radio in Florida – Obama camp keeps telling us he is an unknown there. What a joke!

Hillary '08 and '12

Paul, i think you're right to some extent. I am an Obama supporter and I WILL NOT support Hillary clinton in the general if she were to be the nominee. I will either stay home or if McCain picks a moderate running mate like Charlie Crist i'll vote for him. Its that simple.

There are so many others like me too. Hillary is the democrat who has the best chance to lose to the republican. The republicans are reluctantly choosing between what they see as the least of the evils. No candidate truly personified what they saw as the true conservative they desired. To them, McCain is great on defense, but he's a softie on immigration and has a history of *gasp* moderate social positions. Romney is a fiscal conservative, but loses the evangelicals and has a history of lookinga lot like John Kerry. Huckabee has the evangelicals, but absolutely nothing else.

The turnout at each of the republican primaries is considerably lower than the corresponding democrat one, which i think is an indication of that ambivalence.

The one thing that can galvanize the party and motivate them to unite behind a common purpose is going up against Hillary. The hatred for her, whether its fair or not, is unprecedented. She will not get any significant republican support, independents aren't particularly her strong suit, and she will lose a significant portion of democrats like myself who would rather shoot themselves in the face than support her candidacy in any way, shape, or form – including and especially voting for her.

Tom (way back at the beginning)....good for you. You sound like a thoughtful person who isn't afraid to look inward at your real being. You also seem willing to examine the records of the past, and hopefully of the current, candidates. Would that all voters were more like you. Our choice might then be legitimized in the eyes of the world, and we might begin to regain some of the respect that this great country once held.

Here's to thoughtful voters!!!!!

The democratic voters of Florida matter, but it was their Governor and State Democratic Party that moved up the primary without the permission of the DNC. All the candidates agreed with the DNC on the punishment for Florida and promised not to campaign there.

Rules are put into place for a reason. If the DNC allows any Florida "shadow" delegates to be seated at the convention shows poor leadership and not much conviction. Plus in the future primaries other states could follow suit (moving up their primaries) knowing that their primary delegates would be seated at future conventions.

If Hillary had lost Michigan and Florida, Hillary would be screaming that the DNC should not seat these delegates.

Obama in 08

you all are wrong. the tickect will be Hillary/Edwards. Hillary is the best chance we have against MCcain.

***Nancy January 29, 2008 11:39 pm ET***

Nancy, I agree with you 100%! CNN is truly full of Obama's butt for sure. The only CNN people who don't talk crap are Jeff Toobin and Bill Schneider. Anderson Cooper, I used to think you were something. You have disgraced yourself and your network by your obvious contempt for Hillary, WHENEVER the topic is about her. She is a Senator and a former First Lady of the United States, so show some respect. But of course the likes of you and Obama are not even capable of the least manners. And that Hillary hater Bill Bennett needs to be sent back to retirement, NOW. CNN, yeah you put all these anti-Hillary people on but banned Jim Carville because he supports Hillary. Fair and balanced, what a joke!

I don't think Florida is meaningless. How can anyone look a Floridian in the eyes and say, "I'm sorry, you state screwed up. So you don't count! Ha Ha Ha" You all realize that's basically what everyone but Clinton has said.

I know she's using the situation to her advantage. But, to be honest, that's what she should be doing. This is a presidential primary, not a vote for your favorite flavor of Cool Aid.

ALL VOTES MATTER!!!!!!!!! Is this is a democracy or a selective democracy? Here's a clue..... One is an oxymoron.

A huge win for Hillary in Florida! Obama and CNN have attempted to dismiss it. CNN saying "Tuesday night's results are virtually meaningless to the Democratic presidential race." and Obama declaring it a "beauty contest" and "a tie: Zero for Obama, Zero for Clinton". They wish!

Hillary won by a huge margin and it was a meaningful win. Even knowing that they had been denied their delegates, Florida voters poured out in droves to show their support of Hillary: a testament to a strong candidate who speaks to the real issues they care about. She won fair and square, playing by the rules, and it gives her bragging rights and momentum going into Super Tuesday. The results show how strong her support is among Democratic voters. The delegates are a different matter. But there is a strong possiblity of them being seated at the convention after all. For Obama to call it "a tie" is simply an attempt to further diminish Clinton's victory and a great example of sour grapes.

I'm a big Obama supporter, but if Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, I switch to McCain (Who I have always admired) faster than anything. I think most "swing" , Independents, and "soft Democrats" would vote for McCain over Clinton. I also think the same thing for Obama over McCain/Romney, if he wins.

If all we have is Romney vs Clinton, then I'm moving to Canada. Dirty Politics, like racism, is something that will hopefully be destroyed with the younger generations.

OK, dems and independants. I am not a fan of Obama, but if he wins the nomination I will vote for him in the general election. Do you really hate Clinton so much that you would vote republican? Isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face? Do you REALLY want another 4 years of republican mismanagement of our government??? Think about it.

Still, Hillary beat Barack by about 300,000 votes in Florida.

Hillary, Hillary.......why did you not stay in South Carolina long enough to personally thank all the supporters and votors that worked so hard for you. Then show up at a staged victory in Florida to speak for "the people". You can acknowled the votors & still stick to your word instead of trying to change rules you agreed to. You blurred and crossed that line (the real meaning of campaign is).....in the union we call that a SCAB

What a dork. They weern't even supposed to campaign there and she acts like it's an awesome win. Lady, get a clue. No more Bush/Clinton rule/regime. 20 years of these two families is enough.

If Hillary is so great, then why did the FL voters swing dramatically in their voting from Dec to late January away from Hillary and towards Obama?

Frankly, I think it is stupid that FL folks have several weeks to cast their votes. Voting shouldn't be a matter of "do it when I feel like it" .. Why don't we all just mail in our votes "when we get around to it" and someone will tell us next November who won.
So much happened between Dec and late Jan that it borders on irresponsible for FL folks to have voted so early on before debates, issues and so much information was available.

Come on FL. If you wanted a seat at the table, all you had to do was follow the rules. You lose..........all the way around. And so does Hillary for keeping her name on the ballot and pretending there was actually a real vote there. I wonder how she would have fared if folks couldn't have cast their votes until Tues. My guess is she would have lost albeit by a slim margain....but she would have lost.

Clintons: Desperation in Action.

She turned her back on her SC supporters and left without a thank you speech because she lost the election there.

She avoided all attempts by reporters to contact her after her loss is SC

Then she went to Florida to put on a show like it means something.

Despicable! Despicable! Despicable! Even if it kills America the Clintons want to be president.

And by the way JohnS, Florida didn't violate national laws or even party laws. The FLORIDA DEMOCRATIC PARTY violated DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE RULES. Please try to keep it straight.

Tom January 29, 2008 11:07 pm ET

I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS SINCE I HAVE JUST EXPERIENCED A MAJOR REVELATIO IN MY LIFE.

Tom...I am African American/Hispanic. I appreciate your honesty. I appreciate your effort to look within yourself and acknowledge the fact that racisim exists. I don't think we can ask for anything more than that. I hope you'll be able to reach a decision you can live with.

Obama '08

To everyone who thinks otherwise: They are going to seat Michigan and Florida's delegates. I am willing to put a large sum of money on it. Come August, we will need to display party unity and refusing to seat delegates won't accomplish that. The DNC is just avoiding the realization that they need to fix the ENTIRE primary schedule.

How can Senator Clinton tout a win in Florida when there was absolutely no campaigning from the Democrats? If there were, I believe the outcome would have been much different. She started as the "inevitable" candidate but is now vulnerable to a much deeper and sincere message delivered by Senator Obama. She agreed, as well as the other candidates, to not campaign in Florida and to strip their delegates.

Truth is, the leaders in Florida failed their citizens by allowing them to lose their delegation. A win?? I don't think so.

TO HILLARY CLINTON,

YOU HAVE THE WON THE HEARTS OF FLORIDA PEOPLE..

Thats the important thing.

THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS...

Doris is so right. Have people noticed that Obama never says the word "experience"? That's because he doesn't have any. He manipulates people by using the word change and hope, and it's really sad that Americans are easily falling of that. Hope and Change isn't going to help America is any way. Hope and Change isn't going to help the millions of uninsured Americans or help this economy. We need someone with experience. We need Hillary Clinton as our next president.

Clinton is using the same sleazy tactics of Bush/Rove in 2000 (also in Floriday!)

The only reason she is a contender is she is a party insider with the name "Clinton".

Isn't that exactly why Bush was picked in 2000 by the Republicans?

It is certainly not due to being an inspiring candidate ("yawn") or being likable or having original ideas (just rehash of Bill's old ones). She's gotten a free ride.

The result: Democrats don't have the best possible canddidate to beat the RNC or lead the nation. Instead, they have a rigged contest which has picked other total losers like Mondale.

Yes, she's a party insider who has clout and connections. But she is not a good campaigner, not liked by most Americans, can't compete in Red America, and will surely lose. On top of that, her sleazy tactics are turning off her own party and alienating people.

Dems - wake up!!

Gee, what happened between yesterday and today that could have prompted Edwards to bow out?

Only thing I can think of is the Florida primary.

That by itself makes it count.

Doris is right. Have people noticed that Obama never says the word "experience"? That's because he doesn't have any. I manipulate people by using the word change and hope, and it's really sad that Americans are easily falling of that. Hope and Change isn't going to help America is any way. Hope and Change isn't going to help the millions of uninsured Americans or help this economy. We need someone with experience. We need Hillary Clinton as our next president.

I think no matter who "won" Michigan and Florida, those voters in those states deserve to have their delegates present at the convention. To penalize them by not allowing their delegates to have any weight in the convention because they wanted an early vote is wrong. Perhaps what the Republicans did...only take away half the delegates, seems much more fairer, if a penalty were to be imposed. These voters in Michigan and Florida ARE disenchansfried (Spelling?)

For all the Clinton supporters that don't seem to mind changing the rules in the middle of the game, I would like to invite you to a poker game. We can play 5 card Hillary rules.

I will deal 5 cards to each player. After looking at my cards, I will declare what cards are wild. Who's in???

I saw it myself on TV last night: Hillary had the audacity to publicly state that Obama snubbed her.

Now as a female, I have COMPLETELY lost all respect for Hillary at her latest underhanded tactic. She is back to playing the victim again. Get out the tissues.

Rezko and tucc.org are good reasons you should not vote for Obama. Research these issues and you will see he is a liar, looking for handouts and special treatment, narrow minded and biggoted. Obamaniacs are trying to snow the American people with bumper sticker/slogan campaigning. Read it for yourselves, so no to the Obamaniacs.

Get a clue people... most educated Floridian Democrats didn't bother voting because they knew there were no delegates at stake.

Why stand in a line for a ride that ... isn't running?

If you can't see how pathetic it is for Clinton to be promising to fight for delegates that were already deemed null and void... which effected people not going to vote, then you need to perhaps rethink what country you live in.

I am register republican. That is very tired of what has gone on over the last 7 years. I am ready for a change. Senator Clinton is not change. Obama will have my vote if he is nomonated. HRC will not.

I guess you moderators are big Kennedy fans. Well maybe you will let this through. Kennedy is an entrenched politician, who is reliant on special interest groups, hand outs and lobbyists. The fact that Obama is embracing the establishment in Washington only proves that he is just another politician just like the rest of them. All this "about change" and "yes we can" rhetoric is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors used to romance the ignorant public into voting for him. He does not speak about substance. He votes "present" so he doesn't offend anyone. Obamaniacs refuse to look for substance in Obama, maybe because his platform is transparent, invisible more like it.

Don't follow the Obamaniacs blindly into the abyss, vote for anyone else.

This is what is so typical of the Clintons in their desperate bid to win at any cost. Trying to make Florida a win when there was no competition and the state party defiant of party rules. It is the spirit of the law. Now you can see what they will say or do and this kind of dishonesty is what had been happening all these decades. This is what is wrong with the country now. Cheat and lie your way through as long as we can win. Enough of the present administration already. WE do not need the next one doing the same thing and worse. Stand up for your principles and do not let the Clintons hoodwink you into making the biggerst mistake of your life and your children's lives.

I don´t agree with the decision of the DNC to disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan. That is very wrong and it needs to be changed. States should have independence to set their primaries date as they find it convenient to them not to the DNC party or who else.

On the other hand, the race is very interesting but it pretty much all ends on February 5th for Obama. If he continues to get 80% of the black votes, 30-35 % of the white´s and 30% of the latino´s; he will win around 5 states.

Hillary with 60% of the white votes, 20 % of the black´s and 70% of the latinos will get around 20 states. So after super tuesday the media frenzy about Obama will cool down quicker than chocolate in a freezer to say the least.

Whoever the winner is, I will surely vote democrat.

Stripping the Florida of its delegates is about as undemocratic as the DNC can be. The democrat voters there must feel disgusted and excluded. I'm glad Clinton is trying to get the delegates back. I personally think that if Obama indeed is champion of the disenfranchised, he too might want to do the same. To not allow any state their delegates is demeaning.

Obama is going to try to disenfranchise Florida voters the same way he did to teachers in Nevada.

Victory in Florida was great for senator Clinton, rembember what happen in 1952
History repeat once again.

Congratulations SENATOR CLINTON

Go Hillary Go Hillary 2008 Great!

Doris – name one thing that Obama has lied about.

Hillary's win in Florida is proof what can be accomplished without CNN's influence. If the democrats had campainged in Florida CNN would bash Hillary as usual and the vote would lean toward Obama. I wish CNN would just report the news and not try to make it.

hillary is the best person for the job.who best to clean the government and the white house then hillary. hillary 08.

If Edwards has any integrity he will split his delegates for Clinton and Obama. He then would make a great Attorney General!!!!

Hillary has support that outweighs republican suppport in a very important state for November.

Do you really think Obama's whining are a winning strategy for November, Republicans will eat him for lunch!

FOCUS on the Big Picture Folks ... November. Put aside the media's smoke and mirrors.

A huge win for Hillary in Florida! Obama and CNN have attempted to dismiss it. CNN saying "Tuesday night's results are virtually meaningless to the Democratic presidential race." and Obama declaring it a "beauty contest" and "a tie: Zero for Obama, Zero for Clinton". They wish!

Hillary won by a huge margin and it was a meaningful win. Even knowing that they had been denied their delegates, Florida voters poured out in droves to show their support of Hillary: a testament to a strong candidate who speaks to the real issues they care about. She won fair and square, playing by the rules, and it gives her bragging rights and momentum going into Super Tuesday. The results show how strong her support is among Democratic voters. The delegates are a different matter. But there is a strong possiblity of them being seated at the convention after all. For Obama to call it "a tie" is simply an attempt to further diminish Clinton and a great example of sour grapes.

Even with all the hype that the media gives to Obama and Clinton, I think the Dems are in a bad position right now. Obama will look like a scared little boy as soon as he has to go up against the republicans in a debate. If his speech writer can't write it for him, he's doomed.

There is so much hate for Clinton, especially since Bill got mouthy, that some Dems and Independents may vote Republican.

After all of the dirty tactics by both sides, they could not endorse one another and they simply couldn't run on the same ticket. I've noticed quite a few people are hoping for a Clinton/Obama, or Obama/Clinton ticket, but that would be suicide for the Dems. All the Reublicans need are soundbites about what they said about each other. I can't believe they were both destroying their own party to be on top. When the general comes, that's when they'll feel the pain.

I know the Republicans don't agree on certain things too, but it's over policies. The Dems turned personal, (He worked for a slum lord, she disrespected MLK, He was rude to me, she's likeable "enough", etc. etc.)

This is why I will not vote for a Democrat. Talk about power hungry. These 2 would probably sell out their own families if they think they could get another 10 points.

I'm sure Hillary will promise to end tropical storms in Florida as well.

Please restrict Jonathan in Chicago from blogging. If I wanted to read a book, I would buy one. Seriosly that was the longest and dumbest blog I've read in a long time.

Seat FL and people up here in MI will get down right upset. Nice to see that Hillary cares more about seating FL delegates, than MI.

Why should I be surprised that our Democratic party leaders, Debbie Dingle and Mark Brewer, were the "masterminds" behind jumping our primary ahead and are huge Rodham-Clinton supporters? Why should I be surprised that our governor, Jenny Granholm, is "just so excited to get the first women into the White House" and is a huge Rodham-Clinton supporter (btw - did I mention that there was a story in the Detroit Free Press just yesterday on how Jenny could go Federal if Rodham-Clinton gets elected?).

Dean must uphold the punishment on both states for breaking the rules. The fact is that if all of the Democrats were actively running in both states, the outcome could have been very different. The "uncommitted" vote here in Michigan was 40%; that's a fair amount of votes that could have counted for other candidates. Now that those votes are uncommitted, they very well could go to Hillary if the MI delegation is seated. My, figure that. People who voted "uncommitted" because they didn't want to vote for Hillary, could actually in the end, have those "uncommitted" delegates be counted as Rodham-Clinton delegates. In addition, if people could have voted for who they really wanted to, Hillary might not have gotten the vote total she did. Good job, Dingle, Brewer and Granholm - you serve you master well.

If Dean agrees to seating either or both MI, or FL, I will be voting third party. Rules are rules which should not be switched in the middle of a game, let alone in an election. As exampled above, too many variables are in play. Also, Hillary forgets to tell FL Democrat voters that she agreed to BOYCOTT them, only to try and play advocate when the situation would benefit her. Real nice.

This country is in some serious trouble if Rodham-Clinton gets in the White House.

Of course the media will downplay this. Bottom line, Florida is much more representative of the US than South Carolina. When Obama won S. Carolina, they would have made you think he had won the moon. Hillary wins Florida (a much more critical state) and everyone is jumping to downplay it. Sure, there are no delegates, but this election is about PEOPLE, not the “score” (as Obama put it tonight). The Obama camp has been spinning this hard, but the press won’t admit it. Instead, they can’t stop talking about Clinton spinning this???? Are you kidding me?? This coverage makes me sick to my stomach. The reporters are so out of touch.

I don't understand why anyone would be surprised about what Hillary plans to do, and that is to split the democratic party. She will accomplish this and the republicans will win the White House.

I never new that my vote only mattered if the candidate campaigned in my state! I understand that the delegates are an issue but don’t think that Obama should send his flying monkey (John Kerry) to belittle me for voting. It’s just another example of the growing list of Obama blunders/snubs/lies. By the way Obama staffers, look at the number of voters in Florida vs South Carolina and I think you will see that Americans are really speaking out in the Florida results and it scares you.

"I have to chime in here with the lot who point out that she agreed not to campaign in this state. Now that she won the competition because there was none, she wants to have the delegates seated so we can hand the election to her. Talk about doing anything to win an election." <- I concur...

Florida did not matter to her in the least UNTIL she lost so badly in South Carolina.

Obama did not campaign in FL because EVERY DEMOCRAT including Hillary agreed not to. She went back on her agreement because she is thus far loosing.

All the OBAMAbillies are out to do a number on Hillary!, well she is tough
and can handle it unlike your cry baby candidate OBAMA.
Hillary went to Florida to thank over a million voter who took the time away from their work to vote for her.

All Obama Lovers,

Hillary is next president and a good one!!!

I love how the Clinton supporters cant answer the question.

What expereince does she have? She was a first lady so what? She was not allowed to sit in security mettings and failed the health care system back then she will do it now.

She is also a dirty lieing POS. She said as well as the other democratic canadtes that they would not campagin in FL, Well guess what Hillary did that.

This women will and should be eaten up by John McCain.

I am a dmocract and if she wins I am going with Mack.

Your negative voices are so LOUD. Florida voted for Hillary Clinton. Accept it. This is America. Vote for who you want to vote for but it is presumptuous to tell me why I voted. It is simple.
I voted for Hillary Clinton because I want her to be the President of the United States as do approximately 50% of the Democrats in Florida. That means that she won. (I also have the unmitigated gall to like Obama but I voted for Hillary.) I knew exactly what the Democratic Committee had decreed regarding delegates and came out and voted anyway.
Your blind (and vicious) negativity only makes me work harder for her. I use the outrageous comments to motive others on her behalf. Today I'll ask a few friends to read these comments. I am certain that thanks to your comments, I will convert another two or three to my cause.

Thank you, please keep it going. America loves an underdog under attack. I for one, really appreciate your efforts. I certain that I can count on you.

California Lady. Are you using honest and Obama in the same sentence. Give us all a break. The guy is a liar. We all seen it. He is arrogant. He isn't humble. He is fake. The more he is on TV the more laughable he gets. By the way does he have an image consultant? I don't think so. Florida has spoken. By the way can someone please do a survey to see if Edward Kennedys endorsement of Obama will influence anyone. Nope. Kennedy may be a good salesperson but you gotta have the right product. Clinton 08

At least Hillary appears to care about the states and people in them and not just the delegates she can rack up. Obama is really starting to show his colors and I don't like what I see. He seems really arrogant and aloof to fellow running mates and to individual states that "don't matter" if they can't give him delegates. It's just sad, he would be another person in the big Whitehouse treating the people like we don't matter. He speaks well, but at the end of the day what he says are just words. Actions speak much louder than words, and actions in an election should be watched very closely on someone who has such a short rack record in our government.

I'm an American. I'm a registered voter. I voted in Florida's primary. How dare you tell me my vote doesn't matter! If it doesn't, then give me back my taxes!

The democratic party (I am a democrat), I used to be an independent but switched when Bill ran for President, but if the party doesn't seat these delegates in Michigan and Florida, I will vote Republican – just to spite the party that bites the hand that feeds it. What is the matter with the DNC? They are looking about as efficient as Congress! I am a Hillary supporter not an Obama supporter; however that being said, if Obama wins the nomination, I'll vote Dem., unless the delegates from Florida and Michigan are not seated at the convention in Denver, then I'll vote McCain – sorry but I think many independent/democrates will do the same, if not for that reason, maybe for the fact that Obama really hasn't been on the world stage long enough to be effective. But what do I know, I just have one vote.

The Clinton campaign basically held a faux victory party that, it hoped, would erase memories of Obama's actual victory Saturday night in South Carolina's Democratic primary. What a political stunt. Who are they kidding?

watch obama run back to big mama oprah to give him a boost. would any of you obamians bet against that? he got the media, big name endorsements, etc. guess what ? hillary will win-like she did in new york. --obama is so saintly maybe he should run for pope instead.

I am voting for Obama if he wins.

If the Clintons win I am voting for McCain.

I am tired of political deception with a big smile...

I live in Florida and am disappointed that our democratic delgates wont be counted at the national convention. However, apparently Florida did break the rules and as such needs to deal with the consequences.

What people should be looking at as really unfair is the absentee ballots and early voting in Florida. Approx 1 million people voted in absentee voting before yesterday – over 400,000 voted democratic according to the news which didnt release if they were for Obama, Clinton or Edwards. In any event it is my understand that all those million votes arent even counted unless there is a tie. Which makes no sense to me because let's say for arguments sake that all of them were for Obama.. he would have won.. or that all were for Edwards, he would have placed second.

To me as a Florida voter that is by far a much larger issue.

I'm an Edwards supporter, but I think people are making Hillary's win seem like less than it is. Yes, a lot of her votes were absentee ballots, but they also said that many of the last minute deciders voted for Clinton. If Obama had received this much of the vote, his supporters would be shouting it from the rooftops, as would I if it had been Edwards. Regardless of who won, I think it's only fair that the delegates from Florida and Michigan be counted. Why should these votes not count?

Another pointless win, with no delegates, against no competition. Good job senator Clinton. Another story well spun.

the votes in florida should have a meaning. THEY ARE VOTES DONE BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE to ignore those would be to abolish the democracy this land was founded on.

Hillary supporters keep posting, keep blogging, keep emailing the networks. Let's make them start to be remotely fair to Hillary!! There are obviously many of us out there that have not been hear enough because all the pundits want to crown Obama the Democratic leader. How do we know this, to describe 1.5 million Florida Democratic votes as meaningless is crazy and everyone knows it! Keep posting, blogging, emailing, phoning, whatever we have to do to get our message out! I for one would like to have a Democrat in the Whitehouse in 2009 and there is no way Obama is going to be able to do it. All the polls that show him up are hype!! If everyone thinks the "Clinton Machine" is tough, you haven't seen nothing yet, until the Republicans get going. They have done it for years against the Clintons; and yes, they have the scars to show it, but they have managed to keep winning!! Hillary 08

Say what you will but there were 900,000 people that took the effort to get out their front doors, get in their cars and go vote for Hillary, this certainly shows the dedication to her and the belief that she can "make the change" we all need.
Delegates or not in Florida, that is a huge number of followers.

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Frank, San Diego January 29, 2008 11:05 pm ET

I hope that those in the Obama campaign will join Senator Clinton's effort to seat the delegates eventually chosen in Florida. No democrat should celebrate, or seek to profit from, the disenfranchisement of any voter.

Nor should any Democrat ever brag about having received more delegates while losing the popular vote. Those self-serving attitudes are core values in the Republican Party, but not ours

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What Frank in San Diego said

Also - the DNC's control of the primaries is archaic and needs to go. Iowa and New Hampshire need to get over themselves and the rest of need to put the brakes on the bandwagon effect and think for ourselves. In fact, why not just throw out the delegates and honor the popular vote. After all, aren't we "the people", as in of, by and for?

Hillary Clinton 2008

Election Reform Now!

I see controversy brewing at the convention... Way to go, Florida, again!

Hillary is so totally hypocritical - victory speeches should be made after only after a real campaign. Gee, I wonder if the Clinton machine got the vote out in Florida? Gee, isn't that campaigning? Gee, isn't a victory speech campaigning? Gee didn't everyone agree to not campaign?

Shame on CNN for its Hillary bias, and shame shame shame for covering her ridiculous beauty contest acceptance speech.

Obama supporters are sad. A win is a win. Face it, More people showed up for a vote that did not count. Whats going to happen on Super Tuesday when they do count? I guess we will see what cry baby Obama has to say then.

And how sad of the Obama campain to release a statement after the votes came in sayin "Beaking News, Obama and Clinton tie with no delegates in Florida"
GROW UP OBAMA. GROW UP OBAMA! GROW UP OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Washington Post: Obama Gives Contributions From Developer to Charity
Sen. Barack Obama's political campaign said Tuesday that it has given to charity $72,650 linked to Illinois real estate developer Antoin Rezko, on the same day that a judge ordered Rezko to jail ahead of his scheduled trial on extortion charges.

NY Times: Outside Groups Aid Obama, Critic of Their Influence
After months of denouncing the influence of special-interest money in politics, Senator Barack Obama is nonetheless entering a critical phase of the presidential campaign benefiting from millions of dollars being spent outside campaign finance rules.

ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE CLINTON'S IS, READ KATHLEEN WILLEY'S BOOK "TARGET". AND THEN TELL WHY YOU WOULD WANT THE CLINTON'S BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

To California lady:

Are you kidding me? NO politician in history has been "completely trustworthy"! That includes JFK, Obama, FDR, Ted Kennedy, etc, etc, etc..

Honesty and politics are not good bedfellows!

I wonder how many Obama and Edwards supporters didn't bother to go to the polls just to vote against Hillary with no delegates at stake. I don't think I would have. I wouldn't mint the party deciding to re seat the delegates in Florida IF they ran the primary election again! It is nothing to brag about when you win where no one else's name is on the ballot. I'm one of those independents ( who don't get to vote in the primaries in my state either ) who prefers Obama to everybody and McCain to Clinton.

Whatever your take on Hilary's promise to seat the Florida delegates at the Convention (and they WILL be seated if the nomination is in doubt at that point, as will MI's), you cannot lay the voter turnout at her feet. The voters of Florida wanted to be heard in spite of the DNC's promise to withhold their delegates. The voters don't care about party politics or party policy. And the voters of Florida, who are a better mirror of the nation than the voters of any other state that has held a primary thus far, overwhelmingly support Hilary Clinton. She will need to do something to encourage the support of undecideds and those under 30, but it's apparent that the base still prefers Hilary Clinton to Barack Obama in spite of Kennedy's endoresement. The endorsement from Ted Kennedy has as much to do with the senator's desire to remain politically relevant as it has to do with his confidence in Obama. Ted's star is waning, and jumping on the Obama bandwagon brings him into th spotlight. I will support whoever the democratic nominee is, and I'm hoping for a Clinton-Obama ticket, but based on performance, competance and leadership, Hilary Clinton is the clear choice.

Wow, this was a huge win for Hillary 50 – 33 despite the fact that Obama violated ruled and put ads on (shh, don't tell anyone, you'll be called a "racist"). And she's leading by equal margins in 20 of the 22 super tuesday states... I say we'll have something to celebrate on the 6th.

I have some very basic comments here for the Obama and Clinton followers. Be honest and answer them:

1) The fact that candidates could not campaign in the state renders the outcome invalid. Whether campaining would have benefited Clinton or Obama is irrelevant but it is hard to argue that the results would have been different. True or False?

2) Can CNN do us a favor here, or anyone else for that matter. If the votes would have counted, could you tell us how many delegates each candidate would have received? I think everyone here may be arguing about ~40 or so delegates (the difference between what Clinton and Obama would have received).

3) Reinstating the delegates will be a political move. If the difference in delegates between the party winner and runner-up is significant enough that it would not have mattered they will be reinstated. If the difference is so small that it in fact will have a bearing on the candidate selection...well get ready for a Florida repeat.

4) If the DNC were to decide that Florida (and Michigan) for that matter will count, a revote should be in order. So candidates can campaign. Isn't that the fair thing to do?

I refuse to believe that the rest of America is buying what Hillary is trying to sell. She might think her supporters are hungry but will they eat stone soup? It was almost pathectic to see her on national TV last night celebrating a non-win. Could she really be that delusional?

good for you hillary, a win is a win , the people of florida new there was no delagates but they still voted. thats the american way, there voices were not to be silenced , hillary is a strong women an we need her to lead this country back from the dead, obama is a wimp, he cant lead us back he ll just be lead by the nose from the big guns in washington like the kennedy an that liberal group. there going to want something for there indorsements you can count on that. she wont cave in to there demans ,she didnt do it as a senator, she wont do as president. an as for the news media when are you going to start playing fair an give her the credit she deservers. you always paint a dark picture of her an bill your so bias thats just wrong you have a lot of power start playing fair. im from california an were voting clinton all the way. go go hillary

Only, the Charisma of Obama can destroy McCain in November. But the bad reputation of the Clintons will cause McCain to destroy Hillary Clinton in November.
McCain will win if Hillary win the primary. Another term for the REPUBLICAN.

MCCain Will Win...He is a war hero!!

ok seriously, everyone is over reading the democratic votes in Florida. for most of the state like where I live we had two things only on the ballot to vote for. 1.. the presidential race which would lead to 0 delegates (making it useless) and 2. the property tax amendment. A lot of Dems did not show up due to not caring about either one or being angry about #1 being useless.

Sad how bitter all this is.

For what it's worth, I prefer Hillary because she's accomplished more in her years in the Senate, and is simply better qualified right now than Obama or Edwards. I want this election to be about competence–something we've been sorely lacking the last 7 years. Obama MAY be competent...there's really no way to know right now. Maybe another term in the Senate will tell the tale (JFK, by the way, was in the House for 14 years before he ran for the Senate).

But one thing's for sure: Obama is an attractive candidate, and I DEFINITELY would support him in the general election. On the other hand, if Hillary happens to win, I really hope that Obama supporters give her the same consideration. There are bigger issues at stake here than personalities.

Tom January 29, 2008 11:07 pm ET

During the course of our lives, at various junctions, with introspection we all have epiphanies.

I am certain that such candid, honest admissions were quite difficult for you to disclose. Although you obviously have some unhealthy racist views, to a certain extent everyone has some preconceived notions stemming from perceived differences amongst ethnic groups (though most are not as brave or honest as you and hence will never admit to those sentiments).

Certainly, any and all forms of prejudice should be thoroughly and forcibly condemned. However, your candour and sincerity is extraordinary.

By the way, many have attempted to detract from the marvellous credentials of Sen Obama due to deeply rooted racism as well. For some it might not be intentional since bigotry can cuts so deeply, but nonetheless it is never justified.

If only we were colorsblind...

God bless you.

I am sure that if FL was game, both Obama and Edwards would be in the state as would Clinton. The difference is the the first two stuck by the rules agreed. I agree that the state should count but it doesn't. Clinton's action along with her husband the last two weeks have made me take a look at them two again. Not sure if I can even vote if she is the nominee as much as I think the Republicans need to go. Just can't put my vote in good faith to her.

Last I checked, Florida is one of the United States. Florida hasn't seceded from the U.S. has it?

I am not certain why Obama is seeking to DISENFRANCHISE the 17+ million voter's voices in Florida, but, the vast majority of Americans(80% of those polled) regardless of party affiliation are AGAINST the sanctions being placed on FL and MI.

Please Reference CNN's very own Lou Dobb's recent poll:

Do you believe it is appropriate that both the Republican and Democratic parties have disenfranchised primary voters in both Michigan and Florida?
Yes 20% 1790
No 80% 6958
Total Votes: 8748

democratic canidates all had an agreement to not campaign there.....you know what....democrats have been accused by republicans for a long time that we are not as smart and inferior to the republican party.....sadly I to am starting to believe that as it is becoming clear that we cant see past the rhetoric of the clinton party. I hold a high position in my cooperation, and constantly here jokes about the dem party and there support for hillary....some even say they would vote for obama insted of mccain......NO WAY IM VOTING FOR CLINTON.....OBAMA 08

The DNC and RNC have no governmental power. I think both of them trying to control when state run elections are held is simply overstepping constitutional rights of each state. Those state tax payers foot the bill for their voting machines, the public places where the polls are held, the roads they travel to get to the polls and every other aspect of their own states election. I don't think anyone should stand behind the idea that someone's vote does not count, no matter who was the eventual "winner".

This article was about the Florida votes and Hillary thanking supporters for their votes, I did not read anywhere that Obama or Clinton bashed each other. What is with these comments, can we stay on topic? Don't drag me into the "he said, she said" contest because I am armed and ready to fight Like did anyone notice 2 months ago Obama was speaking to a crowed and told them we needed to shove Ted Kennedy out of the way because he was too old? Now they are best friends. Or what is being called as a "snub" at the State of the Union was first explained by Obama that he wanted to let Hillary and Kennedy speak without making her feel uncomfortable. Now he says he did not really even notice her because he was talking to some other blond bimbo. Anyone who had concerns that Obama will speak to our enemies, there is no need to be concerned because we now see he will not be doing that. We can also see he is not the uniter he claims to be because he can not even acknowledge someone in his own party, much less a Republican.

Don't get all caught up in the media hype of Obama, CNN is guilty of this too. They follow Bill Clinton around the campaign stump trying to make it look like Hillary and Bill are both running for president, but we never see the coverage of other spouses on the road while they are campaigning for their other half.

It is just all too silly. Even when Obama was questioned by Wolf in the debate about clearing up his relationship with Rezko, Wolf allowed the answer that Obama only did 5 hours of work for a church who happened to be in a land deal with Rezko and that was the extent of his relationship. Wolf and every other person knows that was not the extent of their relationship. Obama himself says they were friends for 20 years and even had land deals together. Why was Obama not pushed for the truth, they always double question the other candidates about their record.

So I digress, bring it on CNN start reporting the whole truth and not just the parts that make your stations endorsement look good. Let's face it, CNN does not need to use the word endorse, it is obvious in their reporting. Let's see more of the other candidates spouses campaigning and see the nasty things they are saying. Let's ask Obama by his "snub" excuse changed over night, let's ask the real questions so American's can get the real truths.

None of these candidates are angels but if you are going to slam one let us slam them all.

Lou Dobbs for Pres!

Brilliant move Billary -

Break your word, win a state.

Could she have won if she did not announce just before the vote and just after her loss in South Carolina that she would have her delegates vote to seat Florida delegates.

If she did not wish to go along with the DNC as far as seating Mi and Fl delegates she should not have pledged in the first place.

Makes you wonder about an oath of office sworn on a bible doesn't it.

YET another spinning from nothing...

I can see a Obama/Edwards ticket... It's almost a no-brainer. If both are smart people and really want to beat the Clinton duo, they'd better wake up and see who they are really challenging. While Bill will only be the "First Man" he cannot be the VP... So who is out there as a running mate for Hillary? This I wonder??? Obama's 2nd place finishing (30-33%) and Edwards third place (15%) everywhere really shows that if them two get together they can/will route the Clinton duo... As a team and the right focus on the political issues to heal this country. They could lock up the White House for 16 Years easily. To fix the problems of this Country right now, it will at least take that long to right-side and balance this Country to it's former centrist state.

Martin, Redwood City, CA,

Ok, it's funny how you try to paint Obama supporters as divisive when most of us are simply trying to get the ignorant Clinton supporters that lap up every word she says and buy into every one of her transparent strategies to WAKE up. It's disheartening to see her feeding on the ignorant as a base of supporters. Very few that argue her case on here have any real reason that they're voting for her other than what she has said. They point back to what Bill did and use that as a point of reference. They say she is more experienced (a lie or stretch in the least), they say she is a better unifying figure (are you kidding? Already 49-51% of the population said they will never vote for her; the single most UNELECTABLE figure running). She says Barack is all talk and has no plans... (they've been listed on his website in incredible detail, again, she depends on ignorant people that won't go look at them).

Her tactics are disgusting. It really is a remarkable ballet, but one of distasteful tactics an manipulation. It's infuriating that she is able to get away with it and that so many don't even seem to recognize it. She says "I listened to your voices and found my own"... It actually floored me when she said that. Freudian slip? If that doesn't read that I am just saying what you want to hear, I don't know what does. She is FAKE. What qualities of leadership does she have? She's a liar, a cheat, she's horribly dividing, she's not motivating and she's very authoritarian. Since when does that define a good leader? Sounds more like Putin's successor.

There's enough scandal to be dug up on the Clintons' to get them both thrown in jail... it'll never happen, but that doesn't make them not guilty. If she actually wins the nomination, expect to see at least some of it surface. She's never going to win the general. She'll drive Independents and even some DEMOCRATS to the Republicans. The Republican party lines will galvanize and you'll see them come out of the wood work to vote against the person they loathe most.

All that being said... you're RIGHT, no candidate can truly fix this country. This society is too fractured. Too much in-fighting and divisiveness everywhere. The political election system needs to be modified to create more accountability. You shouldn't be able to do and say things that wouldn't fly in a prom queen contest. If this wasn't the Presidential election all of the candidates would be suing eachother for slander and libel.

Oops. I meant the punishment will come during the candidate election process.

The regular and super delegates communicate regularly. Pushing to have Florida's delegates seated will be a positive move on Clinton's part.

Tyran – here in the UK we had a leader who talked about Education, Education, Education.

His names was Tony Blair – and I see similarities with him and Obama.

Both very good orators,

Both big on style.

Both lacking in real substance when it comes to the detail.

Even though the delegates don't count right now, Hillary Clinton won the primary. For all of you Obama supporters to say 'It doesn't count', you're full of it! So you're saying that the 1.5 million people who came out to vote don't count? What a joke! Give the woman a little credit already! She won by a landslide even with all the negative press she's gotten over the last several months. Obama has had a free ride all along on the media train, hopefully he derails on February 5th.

This "agreement" was not put before the people of Florida. Therefor, it is null-and-void. The "process" does not have the right to remove my fundamental right to representation via vote, and as such needs revamping.

Where are the other Democratic candidates on this issue? How many others have stood up and spoken out against this? What does this say about their willingness to listen to all people? Here's a perfect example of system badly in need of repair, and where does the man running on a platform of change stand on this issue? Do the will of the voters in two states suddenly become irrelevant?

If there's any punishment to dolled out in the general election, it won't come from the other 48 states, all of whom are receiving fair representation. The backlash will come from Michigan and Florida against the other candidates for not fighting for their rights.

redwoods – latest California poll has Clinton leading 49% to 33%

Leah – that's rubbish – as the latest polls (that CNN won't publish) show.

Obama is only ahead in two of the Super Tuesday states – his own Illinois and Georgia. he is subatntially behind in the other 18 states except Colorado where it is neck and neck.

But then CNN has it's own Obama agenda – it's a pity so many people are being fooled in to thinking things are otherwise.

Folks, whether actions are fair or unfair is not the issue. It is a part of politics, and if one cannot stomach the attacks then one should find another line of work. John McCain cried "foul" 8 years ago with the spread of false rumors before the S.C. primary – obviously, it did not change the outcome.

Most agree that Bill Clinton is the greatest politician since F.D.R. Note that I did not say "President," but "politician." So, Bill's actions over the past 2 weeks were not the result of an inflated ego or defending his wife's honor. No, it was all part of a simple, brilliant plan. Let me explain.

First, a little history. In 1992 (when Bill was first elected), the African-American population was the largest minority in the U.S., just slightly ahead of the Latino population. From the 2000 census, Latinos became the largest minority and since then the gap between first and second has increased. In other words, the number of Latino voters is increasing at a faster rate than the number of African-American voters.

However, as reported by several news channels, there is some ethnic tension between Latinos and African-Americans, especially in poor communities. According to several polls, Hillary commands at least a 2-1 support over Obama within the Latino community (in CA, it is 3-1). Since Bill had deep ties with the African-American community, he needed to cut some of those ties in order to boost Hillary's favor in the Latino community.

So, Florida was the test case for this "experiment" and it worked. According to exit polls, Latino voters in FL supported Hillary by a 2-1 margin over Obama, and that group made up over 20% of the voters. Of the small percentage who switched votes/decided within the past 2 weeks, the advantage went to Obama, but not the majority. Over 50% of the voters in FL made their decision more than 2 weeks ago, with the majority of those voters supporting Hillary. The overwhelming majority of "transplants" from the North supported Hillary; that indicates strong support for Hillary in New York.

Look for Hillary to take states with a large Latino population, such as CA, NC, TN, TX, LA, AL, AZ and NM.

When are the senior members of the Democratic Party going to wake up to the fact that Hillary CANNOT win the General Election. Have they listened to the average Republican-leaning floating voter? They despise Hillary, and influence a lot of people.

In order for a Democrat to become president s/he needs to win a couple of states that Bush won in 2004. Are people who voted for Bush last time REALLY going to vote for Hillary in November? Absolutely not. But some WOULD vote for Obama. The Democrats have an open goal before them. They simply need to roll the ball into the net to win. If they choose Hillary they will miss it.

A Significant Victory in Florida
Hillary Clinton won a significant victory today in the Florida primary with biggest turnout in Florida Democratic primary history. She will end up with more votes than John McCain, the winner of the Republican primary. And Floridians cast more votes than were cast in Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire combined.
A large, broad, and diverse group of voters came out and voted for Hillary in Florida. She won women, men, and just about every age category. She won nearly 6 in 10 Latinos and nearly 3 in 10 African American voters.
The vote turned out to be far more than symbolic. Well over 1.5 million Democrats cast their ballots, more than twice the number of voters who came out to vote in the 2004 primary.
Most of the voters in Florida fully expect that their votes will not be wasted again - they too have a voice at the convention, and Hillary has asked her delegates to support their being seated.
This result comes after Senator Obama ran TV commercials that reached Florida homes and after the enormous publicity he received for South Carolina and for the Ted Kennedy endorsement. But any momentum seemed to run out today - among those who decided on Election Day, a plurality of those chose Hillary.

Did you idiots look at the Exit Polling? Did you see that small percentage of Latino Turnout? Do you know how many Latinos are in Florida ? Hmmm? Maybe you should be asking yourselves why there was such a low turnout among Latino voters instead of ask yourself who has that voting block.

Another thing.

Barack Obama doesn't do demographics. He does Americans and in every election , he wins because young Americans , who don't have a stick up their azzez about his race are turning out whether they are Black , White , Latino , Aisian, Native American , Male , Female, Jew , Muslim or Christian. That's how he's gonna win. With people who are not stuck on stupid shet .

So, keep talking about Race and keep slicing and dicing the different demographics. Meanwhile , we will be sending out our text messages and our e-mails to our DIVERSE BASE of Americans who are mature enough to see past all the stupidity and just vote our conscience instead of color or gender or religion.

P.S. Anyone who thinks that if Hillary steals the nomination, we are just going to up and anoint her queen with our votes just so we can have a Democrat in the White House , is out of their friggen minds ! We have been told over a year that there are no red or blue states. We want Barack Obama or else the deals off Howard Dean. Then , there goes your record breaking turnout !

hrc will do anything to win ,
anything .

and she cannot control mr bill.
scary if she doe win it .

Hillary is so lost. I am a democract and i truley hate Hillary more than anything else.

How can you declare victory in a meanningless vote? Slick Willy and Hillary as well as the typical Hillary supporters are at it agian.

MAY I ASK HOW ANY HILARY SUPPORTER CAN BE EXITCED ABOUT A WIN THAT MEANT NOTHING?

Hilary screwed up the Health care system in the 90's, and now she is going to fix it?

She is expereinced? Why cause she was the first lady? She never sat in on any security mettings or any other mettings, that is not expereinced.

We need Brack.

If Hillary is the choice by dumb democrats all across America I am voting for McCain.

IF BILLERY WINS I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK AND YES I'M WHITE.

Congratulations to Hillary for winning the Ms. Florida competition. Send Ms Florida her tiara!

I seriously think Hillary has lost it. Doesn't she realize how pathetic she looks claiming a win when the game was never played?

It is a significant win for Senator Clinton. It is disingenuous for the Obama team to discount her win since they would have a similar spin if the results were reversed. A large number of Floridians took the time to go out and vote, so stop whining! All the Opra's, Kennedy's and Kerry's can't alter the reality of the situation. Senator Clinton is going to win the nomination..and if they really do have the country's best interests at heart they will support her in the general election

Florida and Michigan delegates will not count towards the determination of the Dem nominee. That has been recently confirmed by Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and other officals at the DNC. Once a nominee is determined then the nominee has the option to seat the delegates. Those are the facts no matter what Ms Clinton says or wants.

I really can't believe the Obama supporters. How can you disregard the millions of people in Florida who went out to vote. Well we thank you Florida. We thank you for showing that you care about the future of our country and we thank you for support the strongest and most capable candidate. She even had more votes than McCain. Oh by the well Obama didn't even beat our Romney and McCain. So what was that again that Obama had a better chance. The media is just playing games with the weak minded. Watch them closely one day they say something the next the say something else. Truth of the matter most people who chose their candidate early on in the campaign have their mind set already. Campaigning, advertising and all that is a waste of your money. Clinton 08

AMEN, Ray, Jay and Carolinian...doubtless of the other comments...Hillary got the votes in Florida...and the rest is just sour grapes...And CNN needs to get off their high horse and quit showing favoritism...it is disgusting!!

You won ))))))))))))))) 0 Delegates!!!!

Obama 08,12

We will see ya in Denver!!

No matter who you're for I find it hard to understand how anyone looking at what Hillary has done here can view it in a positive light.

Hillary first proclaims very forcefully while campaigning for Iowa that the elections in Florida and Michigan didn't count for anything and that this is a race for delegates. Then suddenly after a very embarrasing loss in S.C. Hillary FLIPS and starts hitting every opportunity possible to say that now all eyes now turn to Florida. huh???

No eyes were turning to Florida on the democratic side. This was simply a Hillary campaign gambit to change the focus. Can one understand it yes, should one view such minipulation positively no!!!

Let us remember this is the same candidate who didn't have the decency to stay in S.C. long enough to thank the people of that state who voted and worked so hard for her in a sincere way. A candidate who when she finally got around to it (After letting her husband take the lead) didn't even donate a complete sentence to the subject.

How a person who handled their supporters so callously in S.C. could then turn around fly into a state to hold a celebration rally, declare a major victory and basically become the champion of voters in a process she agreed not to acknowedge is striking in it's obvious calculation. "When you make me win you are important to me. When you don't I could care less about you" is the message I get.

59% of the vote for the primary candidates were absentee!!! Which means that theses votes were cast months before yesterdays vote at a time when Obama certainly was not very well known if at all. So when people argue that the large turn out yesterday was a turn out for Hillary they are completely wrong. There happened to be 2 or 3 major amendments of the Florida ballot that turn those numbers out.

Hillary's votes were in large part already counted and she knew this and knew that she would in all likelyhood win based of polls. This is what motivated her sudden epiphany with regard to Florida.

Now don't get me wrong I too feel that the people of Florida and Michigan should have their voices heard, what I am objecting too is the art and manner that Hillary and her campaign are attempting at every turn, in a way that shows that no mittel or method is to strong, to win this nomination.

When I look at these manuvers from Hillary and all her campaign I become disgusted at what I am witnessing ........ Does it really make any of you feel good?

Is this the example you would use to show your children how to reach their goals?

why dosnt cnn tell the truth obamma has been running tv ads in fl i am in fl and they have been on my tv hillary didnt run any ads she came here after the polls and still beat him im a rep but im going to vote for hillary if obamma gets it my wife and i will have to vote rep

Wait a minute. She downplays S. Carolina when she campaigned and attributes Obama's win to race, doesn't stay around to thank us....but goes to Florida where Obama didn't campaign, where half the people voted on name recognition back in December, where Obama's ads were national ads, not local Florida tv, and all of a sudden Florida has to get seated?

And you want this person for president? Would she be demanding the delegates be seated if Obama had won? Would she have stayed there to thank her supporters if he had won?

And the National Organization of Women supports the candidates who called nurses glorified maids?

It is more significant that some of her own friends endorsed the opposition than a few transplants to Florida. Play fair Hillary. Stop spinning nothing.

I'd rather see McCain as president if Obama/Richardson or Obama/Edwards doesn't win.

I am a Floridian and we have a Republican Governor who remarkedly signed the papers to have our primary early to "put us on the map" and say Florida counts! Now the Democratic delegates don't count, yet the Republican candidates get 50% of their delegates. Amazing! Or was this planned by Republican strategists all along.

The most amazing/nauseating thing is Karl Rove has told Obama he will give him hints of how to beat Clinton. I believe that Obama has done just that.

Timeline:
January 10, 2008: Karl Rove's comment on that Clinton's win in Michigan is just a "beauty contest" and that it will have little impact.

January 29, 2008: Obama states Clinton's win in Florida is nothing but a "beauty contest" and it will not affect delegate count.

Obama stated almost verbatim Karl Rove's comment!
Do we actually want a candidate that can be manipulated by Republican Strategists?
One more thing: Listen to Obama speak. He adjusts his accent and wordage for the crowds that he speaks to. If he is one that speaks the truth, why does he change and flow to do anything to win the votes?

By now, Hillary's problem is that she expected to have the nomination wrapped up. When she signed on to not campaign in Florida six months ago, Hillary thought that Florida wouldn't be a factor. With Obama running well against her, Hillary is getting scared. I see the results in Florida that 50% of the voters will never vote for her. With McCain winning tonight fairly, there is noway that Hillary could beat him with just the Democratic Base. Obama is the only Democrat that can get votes from both sides and Independents. Most importantly, unite Americans for change and hope to stop all this anger.

Obama 08

How unethical to go against your own parties decision...OH please Hillary
The Clintons think they are above the law anyway
Now is that any surprise to anyone ???
and if super Tuesday comes and Hillary for "some reason" wins the nomination
I will be not be going to the polls on Nov 4
I will not in good conscience vote for ANY Clinton

I find it offensive that Sen. Obama would call the FL primaries a "just a beauty contest." Being a proud Floridian, I find it extremely rude for the senator to say something of the sort. In so many words he is telling voters their votes don't count since he will not get any delegates. How does he expect to get support in the general election (if he does achieve the party nomination) from these voters he has alienated in the state? It is common knowledge that a state like Florida, with it's huge number of delegates in the Electoral College, could tip the scale in the general election. Think before you speak in the future senator.

You people need to pay closer attention. As Steven and Veronica said above:

"Facts:

(1) Barack ran television ads (as late as today) in Florida in defiance of the DNC's rules. Clinton did not do this. They both had fundraisers they attended in Florida.

(2) Hillary asked the DNC to allow FL delegates at the convention long before the primary season started. AFTER the nominee is chosen, people. SHE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE SEATED ONLY AFTER THE NOMINEE WAS CHOSEN so they could participate in the political process AFTERWARDS. SHE HAS NOT ASKED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE!!! "

So Hillary isn't doing anything underhanded or illegal. She's just asking the DNC to set the delegates AFTER THE NOMINEE IS CHOSEN. I'm sure if Obama wins the nomination, he'll be asking for the same thing. Where will your outrage be then?

Has there been a report on the Resko ties with Obama. He said something about being a "bonehead" related to the matter?

Did he or didn't he return the money's allotted to him from Resko or just a portion.
What about the house that he bought from him. Did he give that back.

Is there an investigation going on about his involment?

I would like to know about Borak Hussein Obama's ties with this man and where he lived as a child. What his beliefs were for the first 30 years of his life.

I am concerned that there should be more investigation into both matters.

Thank you.

Hillary wins Florida!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where is Hillary's supporter on CNN to brag about her to the public about how important it was for her to win Florida.

Instead she has won Florida and that doesn't count? That sounds familiar.

That's why Bush became president. How soon we forget that battle.

Where is CNN's personal Hillary Cllinton supporter. We certainly have Mc Cain supporters available, Obama is certainly covered. Forget Edwards and Gulliani.
Romney has itty bitty coverage.

CNN has to stop spinning opinions around their roundtables and talk about issues. PLEASE!!!

Democrats are Democrats. Floridians and those from Michigan should be allowed to be seated as delegates like any other democrat.

Just another example of Hillary saying anything to get elected. Lets see if she follows up on her promise to get the delegates seated. It is interesting to note that of the people that actually voted yesterday, Obama WON. Hillary was no doubt aware of this, and knew that a vast majority of those early absentee votes went for her. Those Clinton's need to go home, they are so dishonest, so many skeletons in the closet, the republicans will smoke them royal in the general election. Obama, when you think of it, has shown remarkable restraint.

I'm from Belgium, following the U.S.A. elections from here.
There is someting I can't understand? That more than 1 million votes are stolen.... If that happens in a African country or elsewhere.....
Americans will be the first to take steps or to make an intervention...
I think that democrats will lose the elections if they let more than 1 million votes unanswered.
No matter who won. If you want to be the leader of the democratic world...accept the votes in Florida. That's the only thing that you can do.
Henkie Clicque

I was really having a hard time choosing between Hillary or Obama yesterday. My daughters pushed me to vote for Obama. I was happy with that choice until I heard the statement the Obama camp came up with after Hillary won.
Are you Obama supporters so stiffed neck that you cannot appreciate Hillary being there just because she was more inclined to win. Yes the Obama camp may say that this win doesnt mean anything, but it does to us. It gave us a chance to have our voices heard, no matter who you voted for.
For the Obama camp to say it does not count for anything really tells me that they don't care about the people of this nation. Isn't this what the USA is all about, its people and the right to choose (vote).

So before the Obama camp down plays this win, we wont. You are not insulting Hillary, you are insulting each and every Democratic Floridian that voted.

Obama and his camp are a disgrace.

REGRET VOTING FOR OBAMA

I'm truly sorry to our Floridians that their Democratic leaders acted in ways that caused their vote to not count. That is a travesty. Really. And I'm furious for you.

That being said, I don't think the election results were fair because the candidates didn't campaign there - under the rules.

The rules are the rules, the Floridian Democratic leaders broke them, and HIllary is trying to overturn them. That is not fair. We need to play by the rules.

when the general election comes if Obama wins the nomination will he want my vote then? I will be glad to give it to McCain. Since I don't matter

First of all Hillary is promising false hope to those Florida voters to think that the DNC would somehow change their minds after the fact having known that the candidates were not permitted to campaign there or what might the outcome may have been if they had.
Secondly I would like to congratulate all of the Democratic candidates for their win seeing is how they all finished in first place based on the DNC ruling that no delegates would be awarded, so they all finished in a dead heat for “0”.
And lastly I am sure Hillary and her supporters will try to spin this as a great victory having it been know for months that this as with the Michigan primary were not even being considered. So as the DNC had labeled this primary as merely a “Beauty Contest”, congratulations to Hillary on here Beauty contest win and just so you can say that you actually won something maybe Florida can get you a years supply of hair spray for your amazing landslide victory.

Am very happy for what Senator Hilary Clinton has achieved so far and i know that when she will be president she will not only be a great American President but a World President so as to help us poor Africans... God Bless us all

Bill's impeachment brought same to America and he openly lied "...I did not have sexual relations with" and it was seen worldwide!! Bill cant be trusted and his influence on Hillary cant be good.

disgusting shrillary

you've lost my vote – now and forever.

I promise that if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, she will not win in the general election. Vote for Obama

Please clarify something publicly for those of us who wonder what the role of your "Best Political Team' is. Jack Cafferty has consistently smeared Hillary and Bill Clinton, even stooping to quoting, with a smirk, a nasty joke about them. Jack has called Barack Obama "wonderful". An older political analyst, on last night's FL results broadcast, said that, while Obama has proved himself a great candidate, that he needs to stand tough against the hard-ball playing Clintons. Is this responsible journalism? Is your role to choose your favorite candidate and publicly prod him to do what you consider best for his campaign? I have to take a walk around the block after listening to this for a while.

I just read this one:

"I have never seen clearer acts of desperation than the HRC campain.

1.) Smear tactics, distortions & lies.

2.) Crying on public TV for sympathy votes.

3.) Disenfranchising voters

4.) Race-baiting

5.) Claiming victory in non-delegate states (FL/MI)

Has her campaign no shame? Of course not! Her 'win-at-all-costs' campaign must be stopped."

you forgot this

6) Planted faked questions at events in order to make Hillary look more polished on the stump. Don't forget what they did at the student event. True signal of HRC's lack of ethics.

Also, way to go Florida. Haven't you messed up enough elections. Seriously, your state has to learn how to follow rules in an election.

CNN censored all my postings. let's see if this got posted.

Yes, both sides are a bunch of hypocrites. I am sure Obama will put a positive spin on it too if he won Florida. Well, he did not. Get back to the issues.

How can any Democratic candidate claim a victory in Florida? There has to be a chance for fair representation by ALL candidates.

Therefore, any claim of a "victory" is a hollow claim...Hillary Clinton. Again, another example of how the rules do not apply to the Clintons and that they will both do or say anything to win.

Also, I think ALL the candidates feel that every vote should count and that ALL voters should be heard. But Florida knew the rules and broke them...and it would not be fair to the other 48 states and their voters, of which played by the rules!

No more Clintons!

Ah, so everyone agreed that no delegates would be elected.

Now that the race is tight....everything is allowed....such a pile of manure

Please read TOM´s comment!!!

I would like to know why for GOD´s sake the Clintons never play by the rules?

Do they think they are truly over the laws of the Democratic Party even of the U.S?

Bill looked into our eyes,laid his hand over the Bible and lied..,,I DIDN´T HAVE SEX WITH THIS WOMAN,,

If it was me i will surely be in Jail by now.

So double Standards hein?

Welcome to the United Kingdom of America, to the land of Beauty Queen Clinton and Prince Bill.

I am a woman,independant and confident to vote for OBAMA. HE IS THE MAN that America and the world needs.

He is experienced enough to get the job done and then shut it down.

THINK U

I think the number of floridians Democrats who cast there votes knowing the DNC ruling on delegates is the real story. I think it is OK for Senator Clinton to thank voters.

Headline should be about the numbers of Democrat voting in Florida vs Clinton Trumpets win.

To me it is only respectfull to thank the Florida voters for their support. The voters after all clearly spoke out and they are not to blame that their vote did not count.
Not paying attention to a certain state because it does not provide you with any delegates is far worse in my opinion.

By the time the convention is seated the number of voters disenfranchised in Michigan and Florida will not matter since the trend is now becoming clear. Hillary Clinton will be the Nominee. As a former NY State resident and beneficiary of the Senator Clinton's hard work I would have been disappointed in her not acknowledging the people who took the time to come out to vote for her and the right to be part of Democratic party. Congratulations Senator Clinton.

And the biggest lead till last – Clinton leads Obama 59% to 22% in Senator Kennedy's home state.

Alabama – Clinton leads 43% to Obama's 28%

WE WILL SEE IF THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FLA COUNT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION "MR OBAMA" IF YOU MAKE IT THAT FAR. WE SHOULDNT BURN BRIDGES THAT HAVE TO BE RECROSSED LATER HHHHMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

Tennesse – Clinton leads 34% to Obama's 20%

Arizona – Clinton leads 37% to Obama's 27%

Connecticut – Clinton leads 41% to Obama's 27%

Missouri – Clinton leads 44% to Obama's 31%

Oklahoma – Clinton leads 45% to Obama's 19%

New Jersey – Clinton leads 49% to Obama's 32%

New York – Clinton leads 56% to Obama's 28%

California – Clinton leads 49% to Obama's 33%

Young Liberal, you clearly don't understand what is at stake in an election. An election is not about your feelings for a person. It is about issues like health care, jobs, Iraq, education, civil liberties, gender and racial equality. Whoever the Democratic nominee is Democrats should support. The reason we have parties is so that the people of that party can hold their nominees accountable to carry out an agenda on their behalf. It is ultimately the agenda, not the politicians, that matter.

It is fine to disagree about who is the best person to carry out that agenda, but once a nominee is decided on you should vote the party not the person. To vote out of spite would be to turn your back on the progressive agenda you presumably hold. If you don't believe strongly enough in that agenda to vote the party, you ought to question your support for Obama in the first place. In the end, he would have to carry out the party platform pretty much the same way Hillary would have to. Otherwise, he would quickly lose the support of his party, and he would lose his power, become ineffective and wouldn't be reelected.

Democracy is not Dynasty
Wake up America! This is a fact:
George H. Bush -Vice President: 1981-1989
George H. Bush – President: 1989 – 1993
William J. Clinton – President: 1993 – 2001
George W. Bush – President: 2001-2009
Hillary R. Clinton – ?President: 2009 – 2017
*32 years of the same two families holding the executive office of the United States of America.
*28 years of the same two families serving as President of the United States of America.
*This is undemocratic and circumventing our constitution's term limits.
*End the dynasty now. Vote in your primary or caucus to restore democracy!

if mccain wins the republican nomination, it is over b/c he will get the independent vote which was not allowed to vote today in FL. thus, this is an important win for him b/c he proved that he can win among republicans only. also, a theme is emerging on some of the black logs that a growing percentage will vote for him as well. he is a proven leader and he tells the truth. if the republicans get 20% of the black conservative vote which they do each election, mccain can get another 5-15% of the black vote, the conservative latino vote, traditional conservative voters and the southern moderate white vote, billary is toast. the black vote is a loyal base in the dem party but it seems that the post civil rights generation is sick of the race-baiting and is beginning to look at alternative candidates. Again, billary is toast. she is a divider and just examine her record. when are people going to investigate the records of the candidates? i am sick of reading sites that cannot provide any evidence (i.e., policy) regarding why his/her candidate. u cannot win an election w/o carrying at least one southern state-remember 2000 and 2004. the dems are in trouble. who will be her running mate? there are at least two southern govs. that are democrats(males) and if she does pick one of them, it does not mean he can carry his state. in north carolina, they vote a split ticket all the time (i.e., gov. dem. and vote rep. in the national election). her tactics are dividing the party (trying to count FL & MI, Bill, plus the snub). they are really missing the big picture. they will not have the numbers to win. amazing!

Hillary, is for Hillary. Tell me this, why is it that she left SC when she had 27% of the votes that counted and she couldn't give a thank you speech to the South Carolinians, but she runs off to Nashville- and then go to Florida, to gain a victory speech that doesn't count, what's up with this picture you guys, give me a break!

OBAMA 08

Hillary magically won Michigan in the same way that Chairman Mao won in Communist China , by being the only name on the ballot. Hillary shamelessly declared victory in Michigan and used this to build momentum, she is doing the same thing again in Florida.

The words of Chairman Mao should be the tag line of the Clinton Campaign. "A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth."

The would-be Empress and her husband have no clothes.

I think the BIG Billary upset wil come when/if she makes it to November and beats out Obama.

Watch the numbers of (D) voters cut in half AT LEAST!!

I'm for Obama but like so many others out there, if it comes down to Billary and McKain, I'll go (R)

Clintons.....no morals, no integrity, and no respect for the White House!!

Jay, I am a Obama supporter and believe that if he had won Fl. he would not have tried to change the decision of the DNC. I am also glad that Clinton won in Fl. it makes for a better race for the nomination. I always seem to see so much hate in these entries and come to the conclusion that most of the comment are not coming from christian people. For if I am not mistaken the christian belief is one of love and tolerance and not hate. So like I have been told since I was a child, if you can't say something nice about the situation don't say anything at all.

Everyone should read Tom's points. I think he has a very good perspective and advice although a curious place to leave it. There are a good many other and better blogs where his comments would receive their due.

I can feel the tide turning, and I think that Tom and others like him will be redeemed and will be able to hold their heads up after this election, even if they can't vote for the half-white and half-black man. It's curious to me. If he is half and half, why can't he be called a white man as well as a black man. Does he have to choose one over the other, does he have to accept our choice for him?

I can only relate a little bit as I remember the hurt inflicted on me as a child. I live in a sunny locale, and I tan quite easily. My skin is almost always brown although I'm 100% caucasian. I was derided and abused emotionally as only school children can for the color of my skin. ONe day I was a Mexican, the next a black person or a product of my mother's infidelilty with either a mexican or black person. Imagine. How does a 7 year old deal with that.

No matter how ridiculous it was, it still hurt. From this perspective I can only begin to imagine how Barack Obama must feel after the comments that Hill Bill have made. I give him tremendous credit for at least publicly blowing the whole chapter off. We all must move on.

Alexa, you are a genius. The same thought struck me tonight when I saw Hillary, who had made such great effort to go to Florida to congratulate her campaign workers, taking in all the glitz and glory of this "victory", televised of course.

Hillary was on the first plane out of town in South Carolina, without any fanfare or a word of thanks to her campaigners there. I wonder how her SC staff feels now. Probably Used, Abused and very confused. They thought this was the candidate that felt so much for us. It turns out that is only cynical politics for her, she is cold-hearted and calculating. I almost feel sorry for Bill now but I know what he is too.
I think we all do, unless we missed 1998-2000.

Yes, I have to agree with the poster that noted that Floridians are getting hoodwinked. This is all about power and greed for her and Bill, there is no other explanation.

The Republicans can win easily against Hillary if McCain wins, most likely. I think many Democrats will have that figured out by next Tuesday. So, let's let Hillary
enjoy her "victory", she may have a very bad Wednesday next week. And, America a very good one.

Hillary won based solely on name recognition. All of the states where the public has actually had a chance to know the candidates have gone to Obama. Hillary is about 'us vs. them', Obama is about bringing together our country, something we need desperately after 2 divisive Bush terms. I hope the country gets a chance to know Obama because I am confident they will recognize that he is better for America, as well as a more electable candidate. Hillary is the Democratic parties insider choice – Obama is what American needs as a whole.

Jay,

No one is saying those votes don't matter. The facts are that Hillary doesn't want to play within the rules. The candidates agreed not to campaign there are knew the votes would not count. Obama and Edwards supporters knew their votes wouldn't count, so how can you say the vote is accurate at all? All the other candidates respected the rules but Hillary. This is just like the voting issue in Nevada. She was fine with it when she thought it favored her. WHen it didn't she opposed it. She is grasping at straws to find something positive from the beat down in South Caroline and endorsements of people like Caroline and Ted Kennedy, etc. etc.

Hillary is thinking of the voters NOT the delegates.

Yes the DNC cut off its nose to spite its face.

And all you Puppetmaster (Ted) and puppet (Barack) lovers, don't be in such a snit. If you had confidence in your two candidates, you wouldn't be whining so much.

Oh I forgot, you're following your leaders, whine when things don't go your way.

Question: Do puppets cry real tears?

–p

Hillary, we are with you! jackie.

I don't blame people from Michigan and Florida for being mad that their votes don't count. They should blame their state party for moving the primary. The candidates agreed not to campaign in those states and that the vote there should not count. This is a perfect example of how desperate Hillary Clinton is to win. She would sell her own mother down the river if she thought it would get her elected. Just like her supporting the war. She doesn't do what's right.. she does what's POPULAR at the time. I can't believe that people don't see through this. Do we really want to continue to have a divided country??? Obama will bring people together. Nominating Hillary Clinton will revive and unite the Republican Party.. not to mention all the independents and Democrats (like myself) who will not vote for her. I'd vote fore McCain before I'd vote for Hillary because, even though i disagree with him on some issues, he will do what he believes is right and best for the country.

Republicans know that nominating Hillary will be the best thing to happen to them.. why can't Democrats figure that out????

McCain wins, Obama is the last person to represent Democract. He will never win! Get real, Obamanites! Obama lacks resume and is campaigning based on popular themes and marketing gimmicks. Get real peeps! Not too late to nominate proper Democractic nominee.

To Hirokan who wrote:
I, however, still think the best thing for America is a nomination for Obama. HRC is just another politician. Obama is an American.

Excuse me for taking offence to your comment, but that is ridiculous. Just remember your candidate is promising the identical mantra George Bush did 8 years ago. Because he is being compraed to MLK and JFK sdoesn't mean there is much behind his lofty speeches. Sorry, but my opinion of being a President doesn't include someone who thinks after just being elected to the Senate decides he is ready to take over, or whose wife says that there will be no more tries at the presidency if he fails this one. If he is "American" as you say, and the second MLK, I don't remember MLK giving up after he failed once or any other American giving up. Please, have your dream, but I will stick to experience and someone who has proven she can get the job done right from the beginning of her career years and years ago. The USoesn't need nother 8 years of believing in Bush's promises of change, bipartisanship and working across the aisle.

If the state had delegates would it be a "meaningful victory?!" Since when do delegates matter? its what the people want that matters not some stupid thing like delegates.. To say that this didn't matter in the least because of the fact there were no delegates at stake shows me just what obama and his supporters are about.. not much. If obama had won.. would you be claiming victory?! yes... yes you would. So dont be hypocrites about this and give credit where it's due. To Hillary for winning Florida and for the people of Florida for voting.

So Obama people say they want change... what kinda change? Do you even know? Are you so swept up by a slogan and so mindless? Lol i pitty you people who are so lured by someones charisma that you cant see what really matters is not how good of an orator someone is.. or how much charisma they have.. and the fact that hes a "man and can do it better". Women you really need to rally around Hillary... and make history and get the first woman into the White House.

You people have a complete double standard of Hillary.. would you expect Romney or McCain or Obama to show their "soft femenine side"? yet you expect it of her... this is politics not Miss America.. This person is going to lead THE FREE WORLD not a student counsel.

Florida is populated by semi-retarded and senile people. Their votes generally should not count, considering their electoral mismanagement, sloth and general stupidity in 2000 caused the last 7 years of misery for our country.

... although I am glad Hillary won the state.

Maybe their votes should count a little. Maybe each Floridiot should get 3/5ths of a vote... or maybe they should have to take a literacy test before they vote. That seems fair.

First off,

I do not care about an inane rule that says when you can vote. Why should I as a voter be penalized for something I cannot control? Whatever pinhead decided to move the primary up is irrelevant.

I voted and I want it to count. I get tired of hearing how any state is the deciding factor without letting I believe all fifty states have a say.

I have never regarded Iowa or any state that votes before me more anymore significant than the rest of the United States.

DNC get a clue. I resent that any party feels they can control the outcome of a democratic society because someone voted before it was deemed their time.

How inane is that. Remember 2000!!!!!! And how by letting Supreme Court justices pick (as illegal and unconstitutional as it gets) we get a war criminal that has alienated us from the rest of the world by starting a preemptive strike on a solvent government regardless of your opinions of them and, yes by the way still had nothing to do with 9/11.

It is time the voters are allowed to decide. I resent super delegates since all I see is that these elections have come down to just parties deciding the outcome or another branch of a government that was established for checks and balances not deciding the fate of our nation by stacking the deck in favor of one party over the next.

Anyone that allows a state to be excluded should be dissolved and reconstructed to go back to what is supposed to happen. We the people decide not a party whose self-interest is to control us.

As a young Democrat, I am appalled at HRC tactics. I too believe she will not win against McCain in the run for the White House if she were to win the nomination. Obama has inspired me and I truly believe he has inspired the nation. If she does get the nomination, I am going to have to think long and hard about crossing to the other side...which I so badly do not want to do. As a woman, it is sad to me that the one candidate we have had in this race will not be getting my vote. For me, Obama is the only man for the job. Without him, McCain is looking like an alternate option. Truth be told on Febuary 5th. Obama 08!

Love that Hillary supporter holding the sign upside down.

my my my , what a group of sore losers and cry babys, and to think there was a time when i considered supporting Mr. Obama. If thease comments are coming from his largest group of supporters, the young, i guess i can understand. HOWEVER you might want to reread your posting and give some serious thought to abandoning the democratic party immediately, you don't belong here if you are so childish as to give your vote to a republican party intent on destroying our country. Someone needs a timeout......

the panel tonight is wrong about Hillary's win not mattering. Lou Dobb's was the only one close to being right. It doesnt matter if the Democrats could not actively participate, democratic voters in both Michigan and Florida are interested and have watched these campaigns on a national scale from day to day from Iowa to Florida. A large percentage of these voters have already made up their minds for their vote, so when they still went to the polls to cast a Democratic vote in these 2 states, they were exercising their choice. Just because they didn't watch these candidates make appearances in their respective states, doesnt mean they have been turned out and uneducated about their favorite candidate. I live in Texas where there hasn't been much activity, but most people have already made up their minds, whether Republican or Democrat. If Hillary won the majority of the votes for Democrats, then she has a legitimate right to say she won in Florida and Michigan. Those states do count in the general election.

Anyone who thinks that 1.2 million voters should be disenfranchised is a moron.

Wow, Hillary got 300,000 votes more than Obama, and she got 156,000 more than McCain. Who says she can't beat McCain? She did that without campaigning there and McCain did campaign in Fla. Obama's supporters don't pay alot of attention to politics or they would know Hillary, Obama, or Edwards did not campaign in Fla. They all, everyone of them held fundraisers there. Wake up and listen if you are going to pretend to know what is going on.

I just wish people would look at what she is doing. If you were playing a game of basketball with some one and you he threw a couple of practice balls for warm up, while you tied your shoes. then at the end of the game counted those balls. would you ever play with him again.

Billary brings out the worst in people, Obama brings out the best. My father had to eat a hat the other day. He had always said that the day he agreed with Ted Kennedy on anything he would eat his hat. After Ted's speach he got it out and started chewing.

Democrats can't win without the Independent and cross over votes, Hillary can't get them. Obama can and so can McCain. Think to me either is acceptable, I would never vote for Billary.

Because the United States of America gives me the right to vote. When I cast that vote it should be counted. “WHY” am I being punished by the state of Florida by not giving my canidate that I voted for and that won the Florida primary the delegates that they should have received? This is wrong and I want answers.

Desperate that is the word,i don't know what they forgot in the white house that they want to go back and collect,I think we should all rise up against them or it will be to late,America is a democracy and not a dynasty like most of the Arab world,no more clinton's again we have people better that can rule and bring smile to our faces once more.The clinton's should take a break now and maybe come back later.

Did anyone notice how well it played out for Rudi, I think this is exatly why every state and all press is good press. Now all week you will hear about Mcain as the front runner and how many supporters in Florida are for Hillary

She said "If she won the nomination" she would get all the delegates seated... not that they'd play any sort of meaningful role in the primary – not some hot-rod fantasy of 1972 convention riot with delegates getting slammed by violence-happy cops

The Democratic party rules are just that. Rules. Why have them if they aren't enforced. Hillary is pandering to Florida and Michigan voters to get the delegates as she still plays the win at all costs. Congrates Hillary for the zero delegate win of what I expect is an aweful lot of retired voters who think your just the greatest.

What's funny is that Bill Clinton compared Obama to Jessie Jackson after he won NC. Talk about minimizing a win.

I see that Mr. Obama is starting to show his TRUE colors, by not reaching out to shake Mrs. Clintons hand and turn his back to her should show what kind of man he is. Please don't give me that BS that (I turned around to speak to someone else) and didn't see her. Well Mr. Kennedy at least you could have told Mr. O to turn around and shake hands with the next President. I will never vote for another Kennedy nor my family.

I see that Mr. Obama is starting to show his TRUE colors, by not reaching out to shake Mrs. Clintons hand and turn his back to her should show what kind of man he is. Please don't give me that BS that (I turned around to speak to someone else) and didn't see her. Well Mr. Kennedy at least you could have told Mr. O to turn around and shake hands with the next President. I will never vote for another Kennedy nor my family.

here we come again, playing politics by the Obama camp whenever it suits them, but crying foul when the Clinton camap plays politics to defend themselves! It's clear that more than half of all the voters in Florida have voted for Hillary Clinton. An overwhelming triumpf ! The question is , do her votes count, or have these hypocrates forgotten that Al Gore missed out on being our president because a recount was denied. We live in a democracy and if the Democratic Convention comes along the voices of Florida will be heard!
But as I predicted Obama's luck is over, now Super-Tuesday will show his fans that it's all over, Hillary will win big and nobody can stop her. She is a candidate who will do a superb job when she is president and so she will......

Derek Steinbeck

How can you ignore the democratic votes of about 2 million people in Florida??? This is disenfrenchising our fellow citizens.
One word – Tragic!!!

If McCain and Clinton are the Presidential candidates, Hillary will win easily. McCain keeps promoting the war in Iraq and has even said that the US troops could remain there for 100 years! Meanwhile something like 75% of Americans are now against the war and want the troops home. Hillary is also the better debater being very prepared with facts and figures and would definitely defeat McCain in any debate. Also McCain has said that he does not know very much about the economy and he is 71 years old and looks it.

How can you ignore the democratic votes of about 2 million people in Florida??? This is disenfrenchising our fellow citizens. One work – Tragic!!!

If Clinton wins the nomination I will become a republican and vote for Mcain even though i had been a Democrat all my life. It is time for CHANGE, we need a new vision and Obama is the only candidate who can unite the nation.

Yay! Hillary won in Florida inspite or all of the hype being raised by the media over Ted Kennedy endorsing Obama. Guess it didn't work in Florida. How interesting too that the Obama campaign now seeks to downplay the results in Florida. Somehow I don't think they would be saying that if they won Florida. Guess the only important primaries are the ones that Obama wins according to them.

Clinton you also won in Michigan, why did you travel to Michigan to make a speech after the election?

Or did you just woke up? If you are so concern about the thousands of Floridans who voted as you put it, it means you are not concern about the Michigans, right?

Or you think the electorate are not in touch with what is happening? We know your deceits, your divisiveness, your unwillingness to play by the rules; your desire to change the rules mid way into the game. This has nothing to do with the voters or your desire to seat the delegates, this is the Clintons at their manipulative heights, thinking they can outsmart the Americans once again.

If you wins the party's nomination, know for a fact that you will loose the general election and you would be the one that gave away the whitehouse to the Repubulicans for another four years.

I would rather Latinos have some type insurance to protect other innocent citizens who have insurance. Face the facts everybody this is a real problem. There are a lot of immigration issues out there that must be solved! However, why are Latinos voting for Hillary Clinton who is out to hurt them? Hillary has declared not to give Latinos as much as a Identification Card. Everyone is looking at Latino people and wonder what is wrong with them? Do they not understand that Hillary has flip-flopped on issues against them? Why is the Latino leadership leading these people down the wrong road having them back Hillary who is against them? Barack Obama on National TV was the one who backed them!

That's it Dems...

After reading your messages and how you treat EACH OTHER I know I better support someone who can win... God I hope Bloomberg or another Indie runs.

This all of y'alls fault...You're driving a wedge in your own party and you a have pretty much driven me and most of my fellow indies away. You are even driving away repubs that would have voted for you. So enjoy your selves in this primary. If your candidate wins, stand up and clap, party, and run naked through the streets....

Fact is, you'll lose in November and the sickest part of it is you'll have done it to your selv es. Freakin political genocide with you people.... You better unite and stop alienating each other before it too late, if it's not too late already.

P.S. Some of you Hill supporters are starting to really sound racist, so be careful how hard you trumpet you candidate.

Cold hard fact check Dems.....50% of Democrats despise Hillary Clinton (read above) and 100% of Republicans despise Hillary Clinton, so how exactly is she supposed to win the general election with 25% of the vote???? Just wondering.

Vote:

"None Of The Above" 08

i spoke to a lot of floridians my cousins, all pro-obama and they said the reason they didnt bother going to vote anyway was because they thought it wouldnt matter as the delegates will not be counted, thanks HRC for breaking your own party rules! sorry but i cant trust you with our govt!

Congratulations Hillary on your "victory".

Must be nice to win a race that nobody actually competed in.

Your pathetic little rally just shows how desperate you have become:

Celebrating.......err, nothing. Look, Hillary was perfectly happy and agreed with the DNC when they stripped FL of it's delegates (an amazingly stupid move even for Dean), now she wants it to count?!?!

What kind of "leader" is that?

Look I am not sold on Obama yet, but at least he had the dignity to abide by the rules and not make-believe that the Florida delegates count. The rules their own PARTY make them abide by (supposedly).

Shame this is the best the Dems can do......I was looking forward to not voting for a Republican this year. Maybe Bloomberg will run, at least there will be an adult to vote for.

Hillary, I lost little bit of respect I once had for you. You are pathetic.

Tom:

One would think that if you were going to make such claims as to how racist and evil the entire country of the United States is you would use more reliable sources than Wikipedia. I am currently a teacher of history and constantly as required to remind my students as my college professors reminded me that Wikipedia should not be used as "the" source on any topic least of all controversial topics like the persian gulf wars, NAFTA, and the Iran Contra Affair. Anyone can post anything they wish to Wikipedia, and while it may be useful for some background information it is hardly reliable for going deep into causes and effects for much. Further, I urge you and the rest of the Obama, as well as Hillary supporters to remember that since Obama entered congress both He and Hillary have voted exactly the same 94% of the time (see factcheck.org). As democrats I think we should stick together. Both Hillary and Obama have engaged in personal attacks and misleading personal attacks (again factcheck.org), we need to remeber that no change can happen unless we work together. I honestly feel that the best thing for the democractic party and the country would be a ticket that includes both Clinton and Obama no matter who is the president and vice president.

Question: Why are voters allowed to vote a month ahead of time?

I can understand early balloting and absentees but it seems like there should be a limit (like say a week as opposed to a month).

Is this only a Florida thing or is it like that everywhere?

Answer to Jay 's question:
Jay January 29, 2008 11:28 pm ET
"One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?"

If Barack would have won then obviously we Barack supporter would have burst into wild celebrations. However i think Hillary did a great job in letting Barack campaign team know that Hispanic US citizens have not yet heard the message of change and infect have not yet been exposed to Barack in a way SC or other states are.

So Hillary did infect helped Barack by winning a no meaning contest.

Hillary Clinton is AGAINST Lationo people! Hillary voted "AGAINST" Latino's getting drivers license and even Identification Cards. Obama voted "YES" for Drivers License and/or I.D. for Latinos! Why are Latinos voting for Hillary Clinton who is against them? What's wrong with Latino voters? Don't they know that a vote for Hillary will hurt them? They are apparently not watching current events such debates! Hillary declared on National TV in a recent debate against them getting any help on the drivers license issue! Latinos are driving illegally anyway! I would much rather them have some type insurance to protect other citizens on the roads than not to have it. Latinos are digging their own graves!

I believe the result speaks for the entire nation.

Please look at the demographics

Blacks voted for Obama -73% Obama 25% Clinton 1% edwards 1% Kucinich

Hillary Won Hispanics in Landside – 59% Hillary 30% Obama 8% Edwards 1% Kucinich

Hillary Also won Landside among women- 54% Hillary 31% Obama 13% Edwards 1% Kucinich

Among Whites Hillary had more than 2:1 advantage against Obama

Also in most Super Tuesday primary states where there is a sizeable Asians Hillary gets 4:1 advantage

In essence the most imprtant democratic primary on Feb 05 is not South Carolina with African American votes

Post New Hampshire debate where Obama was disrespectful to women

Post South Carolia Debate where Obama was just the average politician

Post State of the Union image where he cant be civil and respectful women,

The analysis is Obama will get a thumbing on Feb 05 by whites, Hispanics and Asians and above all Women of this country who wants to elect the first women president.

MIND you more than 50% of the US population is women and they never had a president. Women got voting rights later than African American men.

In this Historic election apart from Muslims all the rest of the world is looking for a Women president.

Hillary will win the nomination on Feb 05. 2008

Jay : Not one Barack supporter answered my question so far, so I will ask it again.
Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

I am a strong Obama supporter, specifically because I believe my candidate would not resort to these kinds of tactics, just to win an election. So emphatically YES, I would feel it didn't matter, in the sense that a word given should be a word kept. If Hillary had a problem with the fact that Michiganders and Floridians would not be seated, she should not have agreed to not campaign there, and she should have protested the ruling by the party, BEFORE all this, when it was actually inconvenient. It is all too convenient to come to their defense now. The people of FL and MI matter, for sure. But so do the rules, and so does a person's ability to stick to their word, and to stick to basic principles of courtesy, decency, honor and dignity. And it is my opinion that in this case, and for much of her campaign, Senator Clinton did not stick to her word, nor to those basic pronciples. You are free to disagree.

I happen to think Hillary Clinton is perfectly qualified for the White House. But if my candidate, Barack Obama – who in my opinion is just as qualified, resorted to the tactics she has resorted to so far, I would withdraw my support from him in a heartbeat. I would expect him not to set up a victory party in a race that he committed not to "compete" in; and so if he did, the YES, I WOULD COMPLAIN HERE. Because I support him EXACTLY for the fact that he thrives to run a tough, vigorous, competitive, but fair campaign. Is that too much to ask of the Clintons? I mean Bill was one of my heroes until that "Fairy tale" comment, and the underhanded subtle race baiting comments, which someone from the south like him KNOWS are effective. Is it too much to ask of the Democrats to show the republicans what it is to be politicians AND decent human beings? Is it really that much to ask?

I don't think so. Obama '08 all the way.

This shows who is the clear front-runner in the Febraury 5th Primary! She is just recognizing and acknowledging her supporters votes for her! Go Hillary!

Go Hillary go!!!!! Obamas supports day dreamers, he wont make it....

To answer Jay, although I feel he would not accept any answer. First of all there was no competition because only Hillary was competing so I don't see what is your definition of winning. And the voter matter no matter who they vote for. Just keep in mind that there are rules for this competition, as anywhere else, otherwise we would be living in anarchy. I guess you and Hillary want to change the rules to suit you, and the answer to this of any reasonable person would be NO WAY guys.

Can't she just follow the rules?

I was going to vote for Senator Clinton in the California primary, but with McCain's win, I will vote for Obama. Clinton will lose against McCain, just as she would in a straight election against Obama. McCain's pro-life stance is not enough to outweigh Clinton's establishment streak as far as overall "dislikability". Obama has a better shot at beating McCain.

I was disappointed by the apparent snub of Clinton by Obama yesterday, but at this point, I think it's better to vote for the person who can run best against McCain. (Besides, I think the "snub" was accidental.)

I don't blame Hillary for going to Florida to have a photo op of celebration heading into Super Tuesday.

Obama or Edwards would probably have done the same if either of them had won the meaningless vote in that state.

I'm not sure how much it helps her since, as reflected in comments here, I suspect her supporters will love it and her detractors will take it as one more reason to be turned off by her campaign.

I do think the "I will get your delegates seated" promise to be delusional at best and manipulative at worst.

Quite apart from the obvious question of where was her righteous indignation about this when it was first decided – i.e. long before she saw the final vote tally, the fact is that she knows full well that those delegates won't get seated and, more importantly, they shouldn't – and not just because I happen to like Obama.

Frank in San Diego writes against the disenfranchisement of voters, ignoring the fact that the system and the steps taken by the DNC to protect it are both aimed at the precise goal of preventing disenfranchisement. If any governor or state legislature can move up its primary just so that its voters get to be in on the early contests then you will have a chaotic situation in which they all opt to be early on and those with fewer delegates (all smaller states) will get ignored by candidates in favor of the big prizes. Who would ever step foot in places like Iowa, New Hampshire, or Nevada if California, New York, Texas, Florida and Michigan were all up for grabs the same week?

The best way to guard against this is to make it clear that states that play that game will lose their delegates even as they get to stay in the final national election.

I would rather have all states in it too Frank, and legitimately (i.e. with candidates being allowed to – in fact, feeling compelled to – campaign in every one). But there is a reason those states are in the mess they are in – their governors and state legislatures created it.

Obamaites just have sour grapes because their guy isn't liked in Florida. If he had won, they would be screaming at the top of their lungs that it is disenfranchisement of their voters (a loaded word they would be delighted to use, then object if someone called it coded language like they do to others).

Over 1.7 million people voted in Florida, a diverse state and of those 1.7 illion voters, 50% voted for who?

Do people not think that Floridians don't watch the news or debates and know what is going on or not? Most posts on here prove that the words of Obama are simply as false as those who defend him! His feel good words are just that, substance with no backing!

The last President elected who had a high likeable rating by the American public, who ran on promises of "change in Washington, Uniting to Washington for the American voters and bringing Hope to get things done for the people " leaves Washington in 356 days!

How dumb are people who listen to fancy stump speeches and believe in them! All you on the feel good band wagon had better get off whatever it is you are smoking because why do you think Mr. Feel Good wants you to not look at records and the past but to the future?

Duhhhhhhh there is no one America, reality check time folks, there are Independants, Democrats and Republicans, only thing is Republicans DO believe they are the only capable people to run the country! We have too much to lose by not having someone who realizes this and can stop the ruthless Republican machine and that sure isn't Obama!

Clinton did not win any race as there was none. Of course she got more Florida votes. She has automatic name recognition, mainly thanks to her husband's achievements, not her own so-called experience. (It would be unfortunate for the first female US president to ride in on her husbands coat-tails.) Conversely, Obama's main obstacle is that he is not well known and therefore needs to campaign vigorously. All of the candidates pledged to not campaign in Florida, and Obama and Edwards, at least, kept their promises (unless you count nation-wide TV commercials that were cleared by the DNC).

Even with these obstacles, Obama actually received about 8% _more_ of the vote than Clinton from those who made up their minds in the last 3 days, last week, or last month. Although Clinton did receive (only) 4% more of the vote from those who made up their minds on Election Day (possibly due in part to her pandering), the vast majority of her vote came from the 59% of voters who had made up their minds over a month ago or voted using absentee ballots. Obama clearly gained a lot of support in Florida in recent weeks.

The optimist in me keeps saying that, after dub-yuh, a major change in US politics _is_ possible. This optimist imagines that if Obama were elected president (and if he is nominated, there is little doubt he would be – unlike Clinton), not just Americans but the whole world might start believing in America again. However, the pessimist in me tells me that in November, another Clinton, another dynasty, will be in power and the US will continue its fall. (The doomsayer in me thinks that Clinton will win the nomination but doing so will require continued dirty tactics and the resultant backlash from Independents and Democrats will allow McCain to eek out a victory.)

I wonder if Edwards might do something...

For the person that blamed Hillary for the article about Obama snubing her I would ike to set the record straight. An Ap reporter who was the took the picture and sent it to all media outlets and said he snubed her. The excuse he gave about talking to other senator was not true.. The reporter said he turned his back on her and when the other senator noticed reporter she tapped him on shoulder so he would look at her. This is how vicious you Obama supporters can be by blaming her for something she did not even do. If you are going to spread stories at least get them straight.

As I understand it, both the Michigan and Florida Democratic parties disregarded the Democratic National Committee's rules on allowable dates for holding their party primary, and went ahead with their plans to hold their primary on a date of their own choosing. As a consequence of the Michigan and Florida parties disregard of Democratic party rules, the DNC advised both groups that their delegates would not be seated at the Democratic party's 2008 national convention. If I've got my facts straight, then if Hillary Clinton openly states (as she has done in the above CNN videos) that she will act to have the self-disenfranchised Michigan and Florida delegations seated and allowed to cast their votes at the party's national convention, then it seems to me that quite obviously she feels she can, or should, break or bend rules she dislikes whenever it's expedient for her to do so. Is that the kind of President we really want to lead our nation?

This is a test of the Florida Democratic primary.

The party leaders in your area, in violation of Democratic national authorities, have developed this unofficial primary to try to cut ahead of other states, in the event of an actual election.

For the next sixty seconds, you will hear a high-pitched whining tone that will let you know that your fellow Floridians just threw their votes away, followed by a collective yawn from the rest of America.

Remember, this is only a test.

*WHHI-I-I-I-I-NNNE!*

*yawn*

This has been a test of the Florida Democratic primary. If this had been an actual primary, you would have been instructed to vote one week later at one of the polling stations in your area.

This concludes this test of the Florida Democratic Primary.

Wow.

Her two biggest wins come against no one.

Makes you think.

Hillary Clinton has been calling for a long time to have the Florida delegates seated at the convention not just after she won the state. If Obama had won the state then there wouldn't have been all this complaining from his supporters. The Obama camp need to be aware that if he does win the nomination he made no attempt to help Floridas disenfranchised voters inferring they are not important. For a man that supposedly sees the big picture he is extremely short sighted. If he had won the state he would be calling for the delegates to be seated. And to all those that say Hillary Clinton cheated to win Florida here are the facts.

1. All Candidates names were on the ballot
2. Senator Clinton did not campaign in Florida she held fundraisers as did all the candidates.
3. Senator Obama broke the rules by running ads on Cnn that happened to be shown in Florida (Gee I wonder why his campaign chose CNN). Hillary Clinton is running national ads but they were not shown in Florida
4. Hillary Clinton and John Edwards did not run ads in Florida or campaign

Hillary Clinton won fair and square against her rivals accept the fact and stop denegrating this acheivement.

When asked about campaigning in Florida even though she had agreed not to, Hillary pounded the podium, wagged her finger, and yelled

"I DID NOT HAVE CAMPAIGN RELATIONS WITH THAT STATE!"

Jonathan in Chicago – I couldn't have said it better! And to answer your question, if the DNC folds, I know of two Dems here in the NW that either won't be voting or will be voting for McCain.

Actually, Obama supporters are not really paying attention to commentary statements like those before mine here.

I just wanted to head the CNN stories and got curious about what people were writing.

Nothing new here. Just trolling statements that cannot be justified nor commended.

Off to campaign again.

it sickens me to think of a Clinton back in the whitehouse. Not that their time there was bad for the country but to think our country will go 32 years with either a bush or a clinton either as a vp or a president.

Its just not good for our government. not even China have dynastys this long, jk

seriously how can we move forward as a society if we cant even move on with a fresh new face. I dont care if its Obama or Edwards Mcain or Romney. Heck I will even vote for Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul but not Hillary. Its just not good for the country!!!

I will not even mention her other deplorable attributes and scandals, eh hem Bill.

Is it possible to go lower? And how is she planning to get delegates seated, maybe ask Bill. These two guys are disgrace for the Democratic party. If the Democrats make this ordinary person the nominee I may never vote Democrat.

As a registered republican, past life since I have been inspired by Obama, I would think that all of the Dems in FL should be outraged by the no delgates issue, but I ask how exactly did that happen? And in "fairness" Clinton was in Fl to plead the voters, make them look like 'she' was the only dem candidate to care enough for them, I think she is using them to climb to her higher agenda, to be the power of the USA. I think it feels good to be inspired, I like to be inspired and I believe that it is a feeling that can make things happens. Feelings that can make people change this America around. I am still open to all candidates, but I am open to hearing more about this young man from Illinois! I heard enough from the Clintons!

I am a male voter, I will vote for Hallary, and Hillary deserve to win, she is a strong candidate and she will do well for America.

Go, Hillary Baby!

The way things are going in both parties, maybe they should cancel
the November election and start over again?

Obama's change will change himself as a gentle and polite first.

If Obama had got the 50% of the Florida Dem vote, he would be saying the same thing as Clinton...that we Floridians matter!!

So much for Obama getting the so-called late votes...Clinton matched him 1 for 1 in this respect so lets cut out that argument that this is very his own baliwick.

We saw in her a more electable and the more experienced leader...someone who could carry Florida in Nov 08....and this is going to be pretty much the same flow in othe other diverse states..rheotric and poetry only goes so far.

No one's hands are clean in this nomination process and its Obama's turn to be the sour grape!

As for Teddy, does anyone actually listen to him apart from his own family??

OBAMA DON'T WANT GIVE HAELTH INSURANCE TO CHILDREN WITHOUT DOCUMENTS?
LATINOS VOTERS WILL NEVER GIVE HIM ONE VOTE!
BLOOD IS TICKER THAN WATER...

Obama is a very very bad choice. Have you seen the picture today morning? How a childish and arrogant, silly person.

The headline reads "Clinton thanks Floridians, promises to get delegates seated". Since she won't be able to get the delegates from Florida seated (unless the DNC somehow caves into the Clinton Machine), then I guess it's politics as usual for Hillary – making promises that she just doesn't keep. Just like when she ran for the Senate in New York in 2000 – promising hundreds of thousands of jobs to Upstate New York. Yeah right....and us suckers in New York fell for that !! TWICE !!!

I watched Hillary's interview in CNN recently and for the first time, she caught my attention.... I like Obama, he is an inspirational speaker but Hillary is an iron lady who delivers straight answers to specific issues. In sum, Hilary will become a formidable president of America. I was never a fan of hers but the way she answers questions and explain her agenda in her campaign and interviews is really convincing. She improved a lot. She talks and acts as if she not as a simple former first lady of America or current Senator but as future President of US.... wow, you definitely got my vote

Hillary won Florida, like Obama lost Florida: no campaigning. Obama ignores the Hillary win because there are, at this time, no delegates. What will Obama do should that change(and that is very possible!)? How will Obama
explain that Florida's voters mean nothing to him? Is he all about himself, and delegates? What an arrogant attitude this man has! The more he talks, the more he pushes me away. His arrogance is similiar to Bush's.

I do not see Obama for change. I see Obama as very status quo-and the Ted Kennedy endorsement confirms this. I think Obama has shook alot of hands, smiled into many faces, and pulled the wool over many eyes. For Obama this IS only about delegates, only about HIM, only about making History, which is not quite as historic as he would like to make it seem....afterall, Obama's mother was white....or does that not count either?

Hillary for Change in '08

Frank in San Diego,

Are you serious? Hillary Clinton has been running a campaign the past 4 weeks that is straight out of Karl Rove's handbook and you say "let's not be like the Republicans"?

Your comments would be noble, if only they weren't hypocritical. Sure, let's let everyone vote...unless we think they're going to vote against us and then we'll try to disenfranchise them (Nevada anyone?).

I can't believe self-respecting people are forwarding this fodderol.

True, no delegates for the dems in florida, but such a huge landslide win for hillary in florida cannot bode well for obama.

Delegates or no delegates, the People of Florida have spoken! Obama may face a backlash by voters for his hands off approach in states such as Florida if he is the guy in Nov!

Hey CNN:

How about some demographic analysis similar to what you plastered all over the news of South Carolina? Of course she's trumpeting this win.

40% of the voters in the Florida primary were OVER 65. That's the only demographic group she wins consistently. Florida could not be more perfect for her. And, when nobody competes, it's an automatic win.

She's a joke for trying to make this into a big deal. Of course she will be whining from here to Denver that "we should not disenfranchise the great citizens of Florida." She should have told the state party that when they wanted to move up to Jan 29.

Stop whining Hillary (and all your supporters). It's not becoming of a future leader of the free world.

"Facts:(1) Barack ran television ads (as late as today) in Florida in defiance of the DNC's rules. Clinton did not do this. They both had fundraisers they attended in Florida.(2) Hillary asked the DNC to allow FL delegates at the convention long before the primary season started. AFTER the nominee is chosen"

I can't agree more. Obama lovers,check facts please. btw,who can check about Obama's Iraq record clinton mentioned in the last debate?

"This country has not seen TRUE HOPE since Dr. Martin Luther King and the Kennedy's." Oh my god. Ted Kennedy included? speechless...

"Obama won most of the vote cast in the last 2 weeks including today" This is wrong!! CNN and MSNBC both reported tonight that Clinton and Obama won tied votes cast in the past week (especially last three days). So what? People waited until the last three days to decide tend Not to have a great preference for either of them, so "tied " do NOT mean in the past three days, people are changing their minds completely....

"Obama gives wonderful speeches about change but just doesn't seem to have any real substance." Can not agree more.He did really bad in the past debates.

" CNN is full of Obama's butt" Yes, CNN comments are becoming strongly biase in the past two weeks.

Hillary you rock!

Do 1.5 million people count? Last I heard they did. Barrack has ads running on all of the 24hrs news channel, so does that count as campaigning? I would think so. It's nice of everyone to think that Sen Clinton has ESP now to know she would get all those votes, she was planning a trip down there before the primary, so I say thank you FL for the votes, and with the other numbers up there I'm sure the voters knew who Barrack was. Thank you very much. Now chew on this, if the republicans are so sure they can beat Sen. Clinton then why are the thrilled to death that Barrack is doing so good. Go watch MSNBC to see all the hoopla over there. It is sickening to the point of disgust. Now that is why I am looking for a fair and balanced network to get my politics. (and to the obamanites- we feel the same way-the republicans will get our vote before we vote for him) As far as Kennedy backing Barrack, that's calling the kettle black (no pun intended) a man touting change and to end the status quo and the old way of politics getting this endorsment lol, to good to be true. He is more than welcome to the baggage of that family, murder, mafia, mistresses, booze. They make the Clintons look tame. Hillary 08!!!!!!

The Democratic Primary in Florida is the largest poll ever taken.

This is to those who think the Florida win for Hillary Clinton did not hurt Obama. A vote without campaigning by any of the candidates is more telling about pure voter sentiment, like a poll with a much larger sample. The democratic primary voters did not have to vote (since hey their votes don't count) but they made a choice to show who they support. The exit polls then count because it breaks down this large poll into who voted for which candidate. The Obama staff would have us think that Hillary somehow campaigned in Florida, she did not. The only thing that was allowed was fundraising and they all did that. Obama technically was the only one who did campaign in Florida by running ads on CNN he knew would be seen there. Also, If Obama or Edwards had won the poll (democratic primary) in Florida they would have been there in a nanosecond doing the same thing Clinton did thanking Florida for their votes. Hillary Clinton is now the only democratic candidate who if she is the nominee will have some real loyalty in Florida for going there after the primary was over. Florida is an important swing state in the general and if anyone noticed (pundits ignored it) Clinton received many more votes than McCain.

Hmmm...Interesting. Hillary made it a point to fly into Florida to specifically celebrate her "beauty contest" win. However, she fly out of SC before the polls closed, and Bill Clinton was first on TV giving Hillary's less concession/more campaign speech in Missouri. Then later, Hillary gave a less concession/more campaign from Tennessee. That was very tacky of Sen. Clinton.

What a complete political stunt! The desperate Clinton campaign decided to put on a faux victory party that, it hoped, would erase memories of Obama's actual victory Saturday night in South Carolina's Democratic primary.

I can't believe people are crapping on Clinton about this.

HAD OBAMA WON, HE'D BE DOING THE SAME THING.

Jay-
If Obama had one, it still wouldn't matter!!! He would get 0 delegates!! Duh. With such a obvious answer to such a foolish question it is no wonder that no one answered your question. Congrats to hillary for a pointless victory.

It's true most of the dem candidates did not campaign here, in florida, but its not like we live in a vacuum and have no idea what the candidates stand for. I know its hard to believe but we actually do have TV and other media outlets in florida (believe it or not) so we too, even in florida, can watch the debates and see what's going on with in the rest of the country. Yes, really....believe it or not.

For those of you who say the primaries are meaningless in Florida, you are so wrong. The popularity (or lack thereof) of a candidate here has huge implications when it comes to all of the voters who are yet to vote in the states who have not yet held primaries. i.e. Guiliani is pretty much done after this primary because now people won't want to waste their vote on someone who can't win. If he had won here, it would be a different story.

The Florida delegates will be seated! Florida is already organized to caucus for them. Both Hillary and Obama will benefit. Bravo Florida!

Graciousness counts!

Hillary 08

Dan of Minneapolis, MN...The Florida democratic primary has little meaning at this point. All the Democratic candidates signed on that no campaigning would be done since the Florida Democratic Party broke the rules of the DNC. Sure it is impressive that about 1.6 million voters went out in 75 degree weather to cast a Democratic vote, but there was no Democratic contest in Florida. The results of this win for Hillary only means one thing, the Clinton name is popular in Florida today. Hillary Clinton has said on more than one occasion that the primaries all are about getting delegates.

Hopefully the DNC will realize that Democratic vote turnout was impressive but lower than the Republican turnout. This is a similiar scenario to the Michigan Democratic primary which got stripped of its delegates. Hillary Clinton won but the total Democratic turnout was much less than the Republican. When all the Democratic candidates are able to campaign and put forth their message, the contest become more competitive. In Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, there were record turnouts for the Democrats, which bested the Republican turnouts. Also Obama had the following finishes; 8 point win over Hillary, 2 point loss to Hillary, 6 point loss to Hillary, and 28 point win over Hillary.

Instead of wasting time voting in the Florida primary, Democratic voters should have been yelling at their Governor and Florida Democratic Party not to nullify there voice in selecting a candidate. Florida's Governor moved the primaries up back in May 2007. None of the candidates made a stink about it, especially Hillary when she was polling well in all the states. Now that she has to fight for the nomination she is going back on her pledge to the DNC regarding Michigan and Florida.

Obama in '08

Jay – your answer:

Obama and his suppoters think Florida voters should count. We also think that every voter should have as complete and fair an election as possible. This is not what happened in Florida today. Remember the last time we had an election in Florida which whose fairness was contested – we ended up with 8 year of disaster.

I wish Florida had been a real election – because then we would get real results – and I suspect another win for Obama. After all in each state where he has campaigned he has over come 20 and 30 point leads in the matter of a week.

I do understand why Hillary is claiming such a great victory in Floriday – but I also know at its core this is another reflection of how far ahead Obama is on the basic principles we should expect of our leaders: integrity, honesty, fairness, and trustworthiness.

To Jay – I will answer your question but first of all I have to tell you that if it was Obama he would have won by a much larger majority. Secondly, Barack Obama is far more honest than Hillary and therefore he would still have stuck by his word not to have the Fl. delegates seated.
We are talking apples and oranges here. Hillary is not trustworthy and Barack is completely trustworthy.
There – are you happy. I answered your question and I have blown your case out of the water.
Go Obama Go

I do not plan on voting for Hilary or Obama, but I think the people of Florida and Michigan should have the same opportunity to vote and be heard as everyone else in this country. The DNC were hot to demand every chad in Florida get counted eight years ago, why are they now suppressing the vote? In a close race like this one, the delegate votes from Florida and Michigan might be significant to the outcome. The current primary system is screwed up, giving greater weight to some states (that really have no business having so much say so). Instead of fixing the problem the DNC and RNC decide to punish voters in Michigan and Florida. Isn't that modern politics for you.

The whining and vitriol I see here and elsewhere from Obama supporters is quite unbecoming of a campaign that purports to be about hope. The words "petulant brats" comes to mind. As long as they get their way everything is peachy. In the case of Florida, though, Obama gets out-voted by over a quarter million votes and the Obama supporters want to spin their candidate's drubbing as the product of dirty tricks?!? I'm starting to recognize this refrain coming from the Obama campaign. They call their political enemies "evil doers" and they want to invalidate votes in Florida. Hmmm. Sounds familiar.

i just looked through my Crystal ball..........I think an endorsement from Al Gore is coming soon and I see Oprah heading to California

Even with no delegates at stake, the Democrats are so energized that they beat John McCain in voter turnout!

With 99% of the precincts reporting:

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON- 856,944 votes

JOHN McCAIN- 693,425 votes

GREAT NEWS FOR DEMOCRATS!

CONGRATS HILLERY YOU WILL WIN THE WHITE HOUSE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YOUR YOU ARE IN YOUR OWN LEAGUE WITH NO COMPETION.

As a tried, true, and blue Democrat this is another reason I will NOT vote for Hillary.

In 5 states she has now?

She's:
-Cried in New Hampshire (suspicious, overblown, border line pathetic)
-Unleashed the dogs on the lowest level right after (dirty is as dirty does)
-Trying to get delegates from Michigan when she was ONLY one on ballot? (fair play?, she'll do anything)
-Took the Nevada Casino decision to court once she got scared even though rules were announced months before (do we really want to sit through this for 4 more months or 4 more years?)
-Went out and claimed 'huge victory' from Nevada even though Obama had more delegates.
-Didn't give a concession speech (broke the rules of decorum) after losing SC, which she campaigned full tilt in by 2-1 margin.
-Florida BS

Please, enough is enough!

I don't understand how Democrats can be quick to state that if Hillary wins the nomination, they won't support her but rather have their vote go to a Republican. That's insane! Republicans won't change a thing within their platform if they gain the White House. Only thing that will happen is that Democrats will regret voting for their own candidate. I support Hillary...but if Obama wins the nomination, you bet I'll do all I can to see that a Democrat takes back the White House!

Now she had pissed off New Hampshire because she lied to them just to get their votes. She told them that she would honor the DNC decision and not recognize the vote in Florida or Michigan.
What a liar and cheat she is.
Every time I see her face on TV I want to throw something at it. The only thing that stops me is that I don't want to break my TV

Sure, Hillary – you can do whatever you want – who cares about the DNC rules?! What's next?! I've got an idea for you. How about asking the DNC at the end of the primaries to multiply the number of delegates that you'll get in states that loose to Obama or Edwards by the number of years of your "experience" in the White House (8)? I think that should work for you just fine

If Obama or Edward had won FL, they would have had the ETHICAL guide NOT to show up there for a victory celebration!!

As an Independent, I do not think I would have celebrated for Obama or Edwards either, if they had shown up in a state that has no RESPECT for basic rules, only RIGHTS.

Rules have consequences; the Republicans will use this victory of Hillary AGAINST the Democrats in the general election. If Democrats CANNOT be TRUSTED to keep their own basic rules, will they have any respect for the rules of the nation? The answer is simple– look back at the legacy of the Clintons!!!!!!!

These Obama supporters should understand that Hillary is a woman and that there is no way she could talk with a baritone voice like Obama does. This is a great woman with great ideas for this country, but unfortunately some American people are getting carried away by the Obama speeches, which seem energizing but without substance. These speeches will not help the ailing economy and the mirage of problems facing us at this time. The Obama campaign simply storms States with young computer folks who immediately use the internet to distort the good works and intentions of Hillary and make the public believe that Hillary is on the attack. The results from Michigan and Florida prove this point. If Obama had stormed those States to campaign he would have used the Computer wizkids to destroy Hillary. This has to stop, the Hillary campaign has been quite mature in this regard. Any way, Time shall tell.

The issue isn't whether or not the voters in Florida matter. Of course they matter: they all matter! However, their own state party betrayed their vote by violating party rules that the entire national party had already agreed to. Since the Florida state party decided to disenfranchise its voters, all of the candidates agreed to not campaign in Florida. I think that both the national and state parties are acting ridiculous, but all three candidates chose to abide by those rules months ago, right or wrong. It doesn't mean that they don't care about Florida voters. Clinton got around that rule by holding at least three "fundraisers" that just happened to be planned right before this election. Despite that, her "win" was not that impressive considering all the polls before the election had her up by at least 20 points, usually 25-30, but she won by less than 17%. That is a pretty big shift since the last polls were done, and may indicate things to come in other states, no matter how bad Clinton tries to spin what is happening.

Hillary is just trying to act like she is important before, she loses most everything on super tuesday.

Tyran you are a very smart individual because i have been trying to spread that message as well, but Hillary supporters are just to busy listening to Bill Clintons lies, to listen to reason, and the truth. She cant win the general election, I and many Democrats will be voting for McCain rather than her. She is worthless and will ruin it for the Democratic party and for Obama, who has said many times that this is the only time he will be running for president.

Obama Edwards 08!!!!

All of you guys make me sick. You want to beat up on Hillary because she went to a state that had no delegates after the votes were complete. Ask yourself why would someone do that? Obama or Edwards didn't give Fla. a second glance. Why is that? I'll tell you because that's what George Bush did to La. during Katrina. Iraq was more important because there was much more to lose then good ol American folk. You people need to get your story straight because everyone counts in this country it's only a shame that one candidate can see it. Last I was told that every vote counts.

I'm 63, a life long dem. but if Clinton wins the nomination, I'll vote republican for the first time. Thank you.

Hillary's catchphrase for this evening:

"I Beat Nobody!!!"

To the person that asked about Obama supporters' opinion of the FL primary, if he won. It would still be "So what?" Hillary should be applauded for winning, but the biggest issue is that Florida's Democratic Party Chairs violated the DNC rules and they knew that they would be punished for it. And let's be frank, Clinton is using this as a PR victory. FL is an important state, but just like MI, their votes do not count at the moment. Even if Obama won, I'd still say "So What?" Now, we'll have to see what happens on Tuesday, but Clinton's victory is not a gamebreaker.

1. Edwards changed his position on almost everything. He voted for it when he was in senate but he is against it now. He wants to end poverty but spend $400 for a haircut.
I like his position now but you can't trust him.
2. Hillary is a very smart and tough women. She will be a great president better than Bill Clinton. The only problem is republican in the house and senate will oppose everything she want to achieve. Democrats might end up losing lot of house seat and few senate seat. The only way for those democrats in the red state to hold on to their seat is by opposing Hillary. so nothing will get done.
3. Obama is young, likable, smart guy. But republicans will rip him off in the general election. His connection with the 'Slum Lord Rezko' will hurt him big. He didn't do anything wrong but republicans will do whatever it takes to connect him to Rezko. He couldn't stand the Clinton machine i don't know how he is going to sustain republican attack.

Florida Win – Whether people like it or not Hillary won it. The one thing i hate is she had a victory party when no on was competing. Thats a very cheap thing to do. Hey anyway you can't take that victory from her.

I support Obama but if he is not the nominee i won't vote for republican but i don't know if i have the enthusiasm to go to the polls to vote.

I SENSE ANOTHER FIXED FLORIDA ELECTION....

HILLARY IS A PHONY....IF OBAMA WON FLORIDA, SHE WOULD BE AGAINST FLORIDA BEING SEATED AT THE CONVENTION...SHES DESPERATE FOR DELEGATES....

NO MORE CLINTONS....NO MORE NAFTA, ..NO MORE BUSH LITE

OBAMA 08!!!

Thank you Florida voters, you are truly sincere American Citizens. You proved your voice without campaign, it is pure your heart toward Hillary Clinton. She will not disappoint you, I am proud of Florida voters and Hillary.

Florida's main voting base is white baby boomers. That's the only demographic that Hillary has consistently done well in, so it's no surprise that she won in a state where none of the Democratic candidates were allowed to campaign in.

Everyone knows this was meaningless in terms of the actual election; the only purpose of this is to try and derail Obama's momentum, and go into Super Tuesday on a positive note. Besides this, there has really been nothing but setbacks for the Clinton campaign as late, so they're getting a bit desperate here.

Hillary won in a state with no delegates and with very little to no other campaigning by any other candidate, congratulations! -sarcasm-

She did the exact same thing in Michigan, Hillary- YOU DID NOT WIN ANYTHING. Florida dosen't COUNT, haha, make a fuss over nothing, of course, I guess that is what happens when you start to get desperate, isn't it?

Hillary won Florida big time, thanks to all the Democratic voters who came out to vote today. I hope and pray your delegates will be able to be seated at the Democratic convention.

for sure hillary will win obama for sure

She won. As an Obama supporter I would've been happy with a florida win. But such is life. On to Super Tuesday. Clinton is tough.

OK Jay, here is your answer. No I wouldn't feel differently if Barack had won. The only principled thing to do here is to chalk Florida up to what it became; a beauty contest.

Now that you have an answer to your question, ask yourself one. Would you be suggesting that the Florida delegates get seated had Barack won? I doubt it.

And its unlikley that Barack would have pulled a desparation move like Hillary did of claiming victory in a state that by her own definition of success ("only delegates matter") means nothing. What she is doing is pure self-serving politics.

BTW, Florida has a second chance. They can still comply with party rules and conduct a second primary or caucus after the party sanctioned Feb. 5th date.

If you're up for it, we are, with a full campaign in the state. Or are you afraid of the outcome if the candidates have the benefit of a full campaign in the state?

Hillary's Florida win proves that she can get the votes of elderly Americans ... she is the candidate of yesterday's generation.

Now it's time for the new generation to take over and vote for someone fresh with new ideas like Obama or Edwards.

people are so ignorant...all the candidates were listed in the ballot and no one campaign except Obama even though it was through cnn he found a loop hole...what a president..and to those people saying Florida doesn't count are you saying that 1.6 million people don't count. And let me make something clear Obama won in South carolina with 260,000 votest against hillarys 167,00 a different of about 100,000....but in Florida were no one campaign that includes hillary she won 860,000 against Obama's 460,000 a different of about 300,000 votes. So people are saying these votes don't count...Next yes I have to admit that Obama is inspirational when he speaks but he lacks substance and the only reason Ted Kennedy, Kerry and other Top senators went for Obama is because they know politically it is much easier to manipulate a person like Obama in the white hose rather than have someone as strong as hillary...So think about that Obama supporters...BTW Hitler was a great inspirational speaker....we need someone who doesn't need to be trained or use the white house as training ground...and the miliary deserves better than a new guy...its like putting a 2LT in charge of an Army it doesn't work because you need more experience like 35 more years....so and if you people are saying im stupid and ingorant you better have a B.S. degree from West Point, a Masters in Internatinal Relations from Georgetown, and a Ph.D in political science from Georgetown and also served in army fro 10 years including 2 years in IRAQ....

Maj. T

United States Marine Corp

The final straw. I am done with the Clintons. After defending them through EVERYTHING, this is it.

To agree to not campaign in a state and then stop in for a fundraiser and spend the days leading up to the primary promising to get their delegates counted just to court favor with their electorate (which is in fact CAMPAIGNING!) This is ridiculous. Congrats, Hillary you've done the impossible. If it's between you and McCain, I'm voting Republican.

Bless Hillary for being the only Democrat with enough balls to speak against the DNC and say our votes is Florida count. I'm a Democrat in Tampa Bay and I had nothing at all to do with our primary being moved to the 29th. Florida's Republican controlled state governent moved the primary! The millions of everyday Floridia Democrats had nothing to do with it! Stripping the delegates of the fourth largest state is wrong, and stripping the delegates of the most pivotol swing state is suicide.

If Super Tuesday reflects Floridian voting (based on the exit polling), it looks like a Hillary Sweep on Super Tuesday ... Latinos voting 2 to 1 for Hillary and except African americans, all others seem to be voting for Hillary .. but Obama seems to be getting roughly 22% of the White vote like in South Carolina ... and 80% of the black vote just like in SC ... interesting ... looks like Super Tuesday will be better than Super Bowl ...

I'll vote against Hillary on her own merits. To many Hillary supporters, that makes me an Obama supporter - who else is a force in the Democratic party? - and, more egregiously, it makes me somehow sexist.

I don't vote against her because she's a woman. I vote against her because she has a lot of baggage. No, that isn't a sexist comment either.

My mother will vote for Hillary because she's female. To me, that's what's really sexist.

I believe people should be judged by the color of their character and not the content of their skin.

Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine...that is all we hear when Obama gets beat. Over 800,000 came out to support Hillary without campaining! The only one that did any "campaining" was Obama with TV commercials of COURSE he had an explanation.

Super Tuesday will stop all this non-sense, for those of you that think SC speaks for the rest of the world you are about to get a geography lesson.

Go Hillary!

dear Editor,
Congratulations to Hillary! Whether delegates are seated or not in the national Democratic convention , the results show that Hillary has most voters' support in Florida. Obama and Edwards just care for the delegates number, not the people's wishes.

i think florida's democratic vote may not be as insignificant as pundits and candidates might wish.

It seems to me equally likely that it is another very precise measure of the fluidity of this campaign. obama who less than 24hours ago held the momentum from SC and the vaunted Teddy endorsement, has already lost it due to a kind of chauvinistic pushoff that stirred another inexplicable shift as in the NH primary.

in 5th grade, at a school basketball game, The opposing team failed to show up because the school couldn't make the trip.

we won on default.

(sarcastic) I gave a victory speech at midcourt!

Man, I hate to say it but Hillary is giving in to all women stereotypes.

FLORIDA VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN....GREAT JOB SEN. CLINTON and CAMPAIGN
MANAGERS.....GOD BLESS YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE...

Why is it that I see many Democrats abandoning their core values to vote Republican if their favorite candidate isn't the party's nominee. Would you really sacrifice the environment, our GIs, the right to choose, the economy and all the other key issues on which we, as Democrats, stand so firmly in opposition to the GOP, just because you're a sore loser? Really?!!

Get a grip. Edwards, Clinton and Obama are very close on almost all the issues. Regardless of the Democratic nominee, how can you throw away everything you believe in and go to the dark side. You may not like the particular Democratic candidate, but any of them ... yes... any ... is far better than the alternative. Don't let pettiness make you forget what's at stake in this next election.

Every vote should count, I think it's shameful that none of the other candidates campaigned because they knew no delegates were up for grabs. That just gives Floridians the impression that because there will be no delegates – that their votes and their voices aren't important. At least Clinton went and listened to what FL democrats had to say.

According to the CNN exit poll, 59% of Democrats in Florida voted absentee or more than a month ago. Those voters went overwhelmingly for Clinton. Those who made up their minds in the last month went for Obama by a wide margin (except for those who decided today, who went 34/30 for Clinton). Make of it what you will.

I'm waiting for you in CA Mrs Clinton...im waiting to vote for you ! I wonder if when you win in CA, Mr. Obamas supporters will say it was rigged , doenst count, or Mrs Clinton somehow cheated.

It will be fun to see how they spin it

Unbeliveable.............these are desperate times for her.

Please tell me that people see through this!!!!! If they want to count the delegates then they should allow everyone to campaign in the state. I do not agree with the DNC to take the delegates away, but to give it back to them now would be a horrible disadvantage to Obama. Hillary 3.0 should have to play fair and not try to change the rules after the fact.

Please people, you have got to see through this. We're smarter than this, aren't we?

Wasn't there a big riot in Chicago when Obama was runnng for office and gang members started trying to threaten communities stating that they would hurt them if they didn't vote for Obama and Obama did nothing to stop the violence?

Just wondering if someone knows about this, because my family there says this occurred when Obama was running for the Senate.

All these happy Hillary supporters must have been on vacation when Bill was in office or they'd remember what a HUGE distraction his behavior in and out of the oval office was for our country,

our foreign and domestic policy suffered (that's why there was a 9/11- He was offered Bin Laden on a plate by the Sudanese Govt. but declined to take him to try him for 93' Twin Tower Attack because he felt in his genius legal opinion that he could not charge him...

Boy, didn't that go right for America a few months later... How quickly we forget )

I still remember how he lost the entire congress by revolt across the united states.

to the REPUBLICAN REVOLUTION of all those great hypocritical moral high rollers which we all had to live through after that... I thought we were going to have our own Sharia law for a while there...

It seemed like the 90's would never end there for a while.

It really sucked when Bill was president. I know things seem nicer after time pases, but it was no picnic.

If Hillary couldn't even control him last week on the campaign trail, what do you think will happen if they go back to the White House, simply put, we all know the reputation Lil' Bush has given America to the world, how will Bill and Hillary improve on that image when Bill chases skirts again on our dime.

I'm not ready to go back to that one. I suppose too that Hillary's Presidency is already being cast to set up Lil Chelsea for the next Presidency.

When will America get a chance for more than 2 of the over 300,000,000 families here to try to rule.

ABC- ANYBODY BUT CLINTON!!!

All three candidates remained on the ballot no one campaigned, in Florida but the day before the election Ted Kennedy and Caroline endorsed Obama and the coverage was on the front page of every newspaper and led all the news broadcasts, and on Cable News it was wall to wall coverage. Was mention non stop during cables extended coverage of the State of the Union speech.
Yet even with all that free coverage by the media did not help Obama, in Florida.
If Obama would have won the Florida primary even by one vote or even came within a few per centage points of Hillary all you Obama supporters would be struting around proclaiming Obama Won.

All the republicans that say they are voting for Obana has an agenda. They think that if Obama is the nominee, they have won the election. They will vote republican in the general electgion. I am amazed that the Obama supporters have not seen through this.

My thanks to sen. Clinton for respecting the voters of Florida. My husband was so upset that none of the candidates made an effort even to say our votes mattered, he was thinking of voting Republican in November. Sen. Clinton did not say thanks for the primary win. She said thanks for the vote of confidence.

Sen. Obama has been advertising here for two weeks. His excuse was it was a national ad buy and could not be excluded. However, Sen. Edwards and Sen. Clinton did not have any ads here. As a matter of fact if you look at the exit polls, they tell a big story. He is going to have problems going into the Super Tuesday states. Check the demographics.

He would have won if folks decided three days ago, but Hillary regained her lead among those who decided today.

obama is very rude.

VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON FEBRUARY 5TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She should be happy. She had a party without any drinks and they all still came. She got more votes than Ma Cain and the voters still wanted to be heard. I would like to remind John King that Obama and Edwards not going to Florida isn't why she won. Most people only get to know the canidates through TV and the internet. MOST people and voters do not meet them.

Congratulation Hillary. I didn't know it was a good thing to try and win the uncontested states...but now I'm thinking it might be your only hope. I think New York is looking good for you too!

This is so underhanded, so pathetic...how can Clinton supporters rationalize this? I'm sure they will...but I can't believe many Americans will fall for it.

You've won Florida, at what cost?

The people in NH are very upset; they feel like the Clintons have played them for "suckers." Watch Lou at CNN. Somehow, Hillary promised the VOTERS out there that she would NOT leave her name on the FL ballot!!!!

Same old garbage from the anti-Hillary camp:

1. Attending fundraisers in FLA was allowed and any candidate was welcome to do it and that's all she did prior to the vote.

2. She wasn't showing special treatment for Floridians over South Carolinians. In SC she lost so she had to move on quickly, but that has nothing to do with the Florida situation. In Florida she wasn't allowed to have a rally until after the vote so she respectfully waited. End of story.

3. Hillary received over 800,000 votes today without even campaigning. 200,000 more than McCain and 300,000 more than Obama.

Sorry Obama sheep. 800,000 Floridians had a vision of real change starting on day 1 and that kind of support in such a pivotal state is going bring the dems back into the White House with Hillary in 2009.

Go Hillary 08!

Hillary'08!

I am a woman who will fight for women's rights. I would love to see a woman in the White House one day. But not Hillary.

I am also a democrate. But it will be a cold day in H before I will vote in a manipulative liar. I will vote for the Republican candidate if HRC wins the nomination in an attempt to vote her out. I have a feeling alot of other democrats will do the same.

tyran , u must be either a rep.or an instigator ,,,, try and sway my vote,, with your expert advice,,,, mine are always awaiting some one to see if its offensive,, i happen to see , i spoke of hillary,,,, so i guess, silly rabbit ,, i wil not be seen,, go SENATOR MRS. HILLARY CLINTON, ,,,, silly rabbits also see the future........ make peace

Just curious but why is this such a big win for Clinton?? She gets beat in SC by 27% and wins in FL by 17% (with no campaigning) supposedly from any candidate. Do the math folks (duh) Her campaign also stated before the IA and NH primaries that the MI and FL primaries weren't going to mean anything until she got beat badly in SC.... All three candidates agreed that this was agreeable with the DNC beings these states set up their primaries. Sad for the democratic party but the rules were made and as usual they meant absolutely nothing to the Clintons. She will probably WHINE enough and get the delegates seated at the convention but that is sad... Not out of disrespect for MI and FL but we have been doing this forever in this nation and if it needs to be changed with states moving their primaries and such than vote or make some ruling on it before the election year. This is really getting to be a drag as long as it has been going on, and I personally don't think Super Tuesday is going to resolve anything. This is going to the convention where Edwards will screw everything up.

Something to remember is that Floridians DO vote early. 1/3 of the votes came in BEFORE the South Carolina primary and the endorsements by the influential Kennedys, Senator McCaskill, and Governor Sebelius. Apparently the vote in the last 3 days was pretty evenly split. It's interesting how Clinton didn't seem to care much about Florida (and was even planning on attending a $2,400/plate fundraiser in Chicago today, where Bill was) until she got trounced in South Carolina and decided she needed a "victory" for momentum.

Hillary took FL by 50% because no one else campaigned in FL. Since she is the one with the name recognition, most definitely she got their votes. TThis is a non-contest! But if Obama, got 33% without campaigning in FL-just think what will be the margin between him and HC had he been allowed to compete and campaign in the state?

Anyhow, Hillary's statements about seating the delegates is very troubling. She is manipulating the delegates. It would appear that she does not have any credibility and she is someone who will not follow party rules. Rules are rules. They were set down before the primary started–and it says no delegates will be seated.

I am sure all of you are aware of what happened in Michigan when Hillary did not remove her name on the ballot–another clear example of her not following party rules–which she also won, because no other candidates were allowed to campaign.

So if one will look closely, in the states where Obama's campaign is competing with Hillary, he is within striking distance with her based on these results:

HC% BO%
IA – 29.7 37.6
NH – 39.1 36.5
MI – 55.3 (name is not on ballot, but Uncommitted is 40%)
NV – 50.7 45.2
SC – 26.5 55.4
FL – 49.7 33.0 (did not campaign)

(source: New York Times Election Guide 2008)

Based on the above, Hillary get huge wins, when she has no competition!!!! .... just a food for thought everyone.

Wow, you've got to be impressed by all the sour grapes from Obama supporters!!! The fact is Obama cannot win a big state with small black population like Florida (except maybe his home state).

The only reason Hillary went down there to campaign was because wanted people to forget the whoppin she took in SC. She did a fine job in a state in which OBama or Edwards never fought for.

OBama or this moderate is crossing the line.

Over 1.7 million Florida Democrats voted today without anyone campaigning in their state and with the news media saying it was just a "beauty contest" Obviously they've been watching the news, listening to the debates, and made a choice. All candidates honored their pledges (except for national tv ads). Obama called an 80% African American vote and 25% white vote a "coalition." If you support a candidate of change, then stop being so bitter when you loose.

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

People who payed close attention to the election are aware of the following:

1. Obama won the vote of FL democrates who voted today as per CNN, FOX, and MSNBC
2. Obama won the votes of FL democrates who voted in the last month
3. Clinton overall lead comes from the 1/2 million absentee votes cast over a month ago

The playing field is even and wide open on Super Tuesday

How many candidates in the past fifty years got elected because they talked about change...Many...has anything happened...No..why it takes more than one person..... wake up America...you are being Bamboozled!!!

Looks like the OBama supporters are more hate-filled than the Republicans, my goodness!

They ignore all the Obama violations (campaigning) yet attribute all of those to Hillary. These are the people that give the Democratic party a bad name. Please change parties.

Hillary might have won 0 delegates for her victory in Florida,but this victory is not unimpressive. She won a higher percentage of Black Voters than Obama won of White Voters. (something that absolutely no one expected)

The excuses given by the Obama camp, that Hillary won on name recognition alone is absurd. Voters came out to vote in a PRIMARY Election in a race that did not count for any delegates in record numbers, they were uneducated voters, voting on "name recognition." They knew what they were doing, and they overwhelmingly chose Hillary.

Winning by such a margin in a state without campaigning is a huge accomplishment as well.

Hillary 08!

To Jay: If Obama won by 50% of course they wouldn't count and no, we wouldn't complain. How insulting that you would compare our values to those of Sen. Clinton.

"I probably think it's a snapshot. It's a beauty contest that's similar to a poll of where people currently are at in Florida," Obama said. "But none of us has campaigned there, so people have no idea what the respective candidates stand for, haven't had a chance to look them over, kick the tires."

Doesn't Obama realize that we live in the information age with the Internet and 24 hour news channels? Florida was more than adequately informed about the candidates, especially after the multitude of nationally televised debates. In fact, I doubt that most citizens in Super Tuesday states will have any more opportunity to "kick the tires" with the candidates than Florida voters did.

Hillary '08
Illinois voter

Lets Note:

Hillary won more votes than Edwards and Obama combined

More votes than Obama won in South Carolina

Plus Hillary Won even if no delegates are awarded

Get over it, sour grapes are bad for you

Go Hillary, Who want some... lol

Jay I will answer your question...

As an Obama supporter, I honestly think had the votes been reversed say, he would have done a nice camera shot from Kansas city or wherever and said thank you to the people of Florida for their support and he looks forward to working with them come november to win the election. He would have been rousing and inspiring at the end talking about their importance. I don't think he would have gone there on Tuesday night. And I know he would not have been there on Sunday as she was.

And again that is why I support him.
I feel I can trust his word.
I cant trust Hillary's.
She has shown this over and over.
I wish I could
But I cant.

Does that help Jay?
I think alot of us feel this way.

All the best-
John

A lot of people voted tonight. A LOT.

To say that doesnt mean anything is total SPIN by the Obama campaign.

It means quite clearly that they are EXPOSED to the fact they cant win an election they cant VIGOURSLY campaign in. They dont have the ground support or Obama making speeches or the MEDIA POUNDING EVER SINGLE POSITIVE about Obama possible.

Look at the exit polls. The youth voters were not lopsided on Obama's side. Every other demographic is exactly what we have seen.

Obama 70% african american vote

Clinton 2-1 Latino vote

Clinton white vote and white women vote.

So the difference was clearly Obamas ability to campaign and mobilize the youth vote.

This is why the youth vote never makes a difference in the general election. Nobody can MOBILIZE the entire countrys youth to go vote. You would need the entire US army to do that.

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary,

I always new Bill was terrible at telling the truth, but you take the cake. YOU AGREED NOT TO CAMPAIGN IN FLORIDA aaaaand of course, as your last name infamously suggests, YOU BOLDY LIED IN FRONT OF EVERYONE WHO CARED TO WATCH YOU TODAY IN FLORIDA.

HELLOOO, supporters of Hillary, she's not even in the White House yet and she's already began a gate, "The Floridagate." sad sad sad

Hillary didn't do anything wrong...many of these comments are fantasy...Must be part of the fantasy vote...

It is so funny to see Obama supporters making excuses and spouting sour grapes remarks because Hillary won in Florida. I guess that her win there removes the excuses that Obama and Edwards were not on the ballot. Face it folks – Hillary won – delegates or not. It is Obama that violated the DNC rules in Florida by airing ads (yes relative of mine saw them). You Obama supporters need to stop spouting nonsense and be fair.
Go Hillary!! California will also hand you a win as big as in Florida next week. My family of 8 (yes all 8 of us and all eligible to vote for you) will definitely be voting for you on Feb 5 in the California primary. We are sick of the biased media reporting, the Obama rethoric (as well his supporters) and all the negative comments about you in blogs.
We know how you have received results and have weathered all the unfair media and right wing attacks all these years and we will support you. We are a well educated family (3 of us have Phds) and we are all educated on what you have done.
We will also be donating to your campaign.
HILLARY 08!

I am a Democrat from Florida, I was disappointed that my vote was not going to count. So, I was totally surprised as were many voters when I went to the polls and discovered I could actually cast my vote. I have been amazed that the media thinks that the candidates have not campaigned in Fl. What do you call the 24 hours on 5 cable channels of Decision 2008. I believe Fl voters had an opportunity to listen and evaluate without all of the rheteroric experienced in the earlier primaries. We could vote our own thoughts and values with out having the candidates on the ground making a fool of themselves, we can deal with just the issues. CNN exit polls themselves show that democratic voters did think through their votes. voters were on blogs all week end to get people out to vote and make their voices heard. So please don't discount our voice, as being a beauty contest. and Lou, the spectical is being fueled bu the media. Could we stick to the facts, like the voters in Fl apparently decided to do.

Sure, Hillary – you can do whatever you want – who cares about the DNC rules?! What's next?! I've got an idea for you. How about asking the DNC at the end of the primaries to multiply the number of delegates that you'll get in states that loose to Obama or Edwards by the number of years of your "experience" in the White House (8)? I think that should work for you just fine

It is "We the People", not we the delegates. I congradulate the Democratic voters of Florida for a record breaking turnout in spite of the DNC robbing you of your delegates.

To the fool that claims most of the votes came in during December, BS. Early voting started on January 12th. Hillary did not campaign in Florida and it was a contested contest since all of the candidates were on the ballot.

You Obama people cry as much as he does. You better hope he does not win the nomination because the Republicans will eat him for lunch. What a fraud he is. You people need to come down off that magic carpet ride you are taking with him before you fall. Read the speech he gave on his internet site announcing he was running for the nomination. He states in his opening paragraph that he is tired of the same old fights of the 60's. When he was not seeing any movement in the polls however, he morphed himself into JFK and MLK and you suckers fell for it. Most of you probably aren't even old enough to have witnessed these two iconic figures in action. GROW UP

By the way, this is NOT about a candidate, this is about right and wrong.

Florida and Michigan broke the rules as set forth by the DNC for oh let's say about 60 years successfully followed until now.

They were warned against taking this action. They knew they would lose their primary delegates IF they moved this date ahead. Take your medicine and shut up so the rest of us can get our chance to vote when its our turn.

**FLORIDA voters moving ahead of smaller states disinfranchised other American voters. **

Don't forget that either when you whine about poor Florida voters.

obama osama, dang, oops i did it again ,,,

Hillary TELLS us what our needs are... Obama LISTENS to what our needs are... which way works better?

Clinton and Obama or Obama and Clinton. We will need them both to beat old man McCain and Chuckabee! Stop the in-fighting. They will. One will be President and the other VP. Vote Dem!

I find it quite interesting how in two of the States that Hillary has won the delegate votes are not allowed...um...um.. But she still leads with the most delegate votes....talk about obstacles...this is a strong woman to stand up to all that has flown her way....we need a strong woman!!!

Tyran you are hilarious.....but believe me many independents are watching and she actually could have done more harm than good today. So way to go Billary-keep up the good work and make sure you screw this up for everyone.

Funny thing. Republican aren't fans of Mccain and Democrats are fond of Hillary...feels like 2004 all over again.

Thank God I am independent and pick and choose unlike the Repubs and crying democrats.

Why are you giving Obama millions of dollars of free publicity? He has admitted to using illegal drugs. Is this his reward for such misconduct? Stop misusing the American people's public airways in this manner.

Over 2 million Democrats troop to the polls to express their opinions and the Obama campaign calls it meaningless.

The fact that huge numbers of voters turned out to express their opinion when none of the candidates campaigned in the state makes Clinton's win even more compelling, not less.

Dolce, stop the lies. Hillary was not campaigning in Florida last week. The people that call Clinton a liar, need to take a serious look in the mirror, then actually go research their facts.

Barack is inspiring when he talks and what he says we all want to believe...But he hasn't told us how he is going to accomplish this change....he is too naive, and does not have enough experience to run our country, people really need to look at the facts...don't vote for someone that has no experience...we did that in the last two elections, and it really has messed us up... I recommend to look at the two frontrunners websites... Pull up Obamas website see what he has done...then pull up Hillaryclinton.com see what she has done, I suggest to do more research, but I know most won't even do this... People have only known Barack for a few months...Hillary has been in the public's eye for over 15 years, and more years in Arkansa...with that said, we know her....unfortunately, people might not know all the work she has done because they focus on negative publicity... I urge you to see what changes she has made for the past 35 years... This is a woman that has helped the average person a lot...she's helped the bore ... and even the rich..don't you think we should all be helped in one way or another?

Bush is againt American interests... Obama will listen to Americans

That's not fair to Californians! We already don't really matter.

How dare you, Hillary Clinton, have the nerve to try to circumvent DNC punishment for Florida disenfranchising other smaller states in their decision to move ahead of everybody else, for YOUR OWN PERSONAL GAIN so you can in turn disenfranchise THE 22 SUPER TUESDAY STATES!!!

THIS IS TOTAL B.S.!!!

TAKING AWAY THEIR PRIMARY DELEGATES was the only punishment the DNC could bestow on Florida. They were WARNED, but did it anyway. THEIR votes in November WILL ALREADY COUNT!

What a crock. I voted for Bill twice, but I would rather eat worms than vote for you. You power hungry, insensitive, self serving cowardly liar!

On what ticket is Senator Clinton running? OR which party is supporting Senator Clinton's candidacy? Why is it so difficult for her to obey the orders of the party that she is trying to be the flagbearer? Her attitude is questionable. How can she prove to the whole world that she will not be a dictator or she will not do things like the current president of US (George Bush)

The media has been so bias in the tank cheering Barack Obama, it will be interesting to see if they make an equal big deal out of Hillary Clinton's victory in Florida and the fact that California Rep. Maxine Waters has endorsed Hillary.

Florida is still part of america right? Because as a Democrat voter in florida I feel that I am being silenced now just like all those votes that were not counted eight years ago! Oh sure let us vote then silence our voice when we have spoken! GO HILARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Floridans !
Thank you for the lesson that you gave us. We should not and will not vote for a drug addict ed, woman chaser , and crooked candidate like Barack Obama.
Congratulation Hillary !

Jay,

No. And why can't Hillary explain her 35 years of experience? Please answer that.

Are you people actually thinking before you type? Let me get this straight...Obama supporters love him because he inspires and brings hope about uniting this country...oh and also because most of his supporters have come to detest Bill and Hillary of course because they are so divisive. Fair enough. So back to the facts, ... more than 800,000 people voted for Hillary in a meaningless primary. By which standard is that not significant, according to which measure are those voters ignorant? I don't care which candidate you support but don't trivialize the fact that all these people bothered to come out and vote. Heck, more people voted for Hillary than for McCain! So back to your superior philosophy...tell us how this country is going to come together and tackle the challenges of our time, when whining, finger-pointing Obama cheerleaders (like YOU!) are as divisive as the very people they detest. The fact is that it is neither change, nor cynicism that's in the air...it's hypocrisy. Mark my words, even Obama does not have the cure for that. People in this country need to start thinking about the true meaning of JFK's words "Ask what you can do for your country".

The media needs to be more objective and stop trying to brain wash the people into voting for Obama. No matter who his relatives are, he is not qualified to be President! Unfortunately, the American people's wealth has already been stolen and they are already slaves of the financial elites of the world, so it want matter much who wins the Presidency.

Once again the Clinton's throw the baby out with the bath water. The candidates made a pledge in Iowa and New Hampshire not to participate in Florida and Michigan. She refused to remove her name from the ballot in Michigan and went to Florida and celebrated her lack of delegates. Does anyone honestly believe that the voters in Iowa and New Hampshire are going to forgive and forget during the general election? If Hillary is the nominee New Hampshire and Iowa will punish her during the general election. We need to make the most of every state. This selfish, win at all cost, think about tomorrow later is going to cost the Democrats the White House.

Amy in Iowa:

Where did Hillary say that Obama snubbed her? Could you back that statement with proof? Florida has become a spin race for Hillary? I think that statement is a spin.

You Obama Supporters have no room to talk about Hillary being vicious and taking cheap shots. Listen to yourselves and then tell me who is vicious and taking shots! And who the sore losers are.

Congratulations Hillary! Although knowing there would be no delegates in Florida you still honoured Floridians as citizens who count. I can't imagine why that is being perceived by some as undemocratic. It was your time to give and your choice to make and apparently Floridians appreciated both.

This will nip CNN and Obama right in the butt during the DNC. These delegates will count and you'll see the whining from the Obama campaign and CNN, MSNBC and FOX can't change that.

oh come on now,, it was a rout,, and understand it for what it is,, the makeup of todays florida voters depict what we will most likely see on super tuesday,, and it is obvious that just as the blacks voted along racial lines in s.c., the white and latio's appear to be doing the same thing

I am waiting for a Hillary supporter to answer my question.....why didn't her "concern" for the "voice of the people in Florida" develop until AFTER she lost Iowa and South Carolina? Why didn't she stand up and refuse to agree not to campaign in the state EARLY ON if she is such a stand up human being?

I do have to thank her though. Watching her "victory" speech in a primary where no one campaigned against her was hysterical. Now, as another poster said, maybe she can get her butt on a plane back to South Carolina to thank all of her supporters who worked so hard for her there.

I also have noticed that Bill has dropped off the face of the earth. Good move.

Thank you, Tom, for your honesty regarding racism. We have been fed and bought into so many stereotypes about different races and we all have seeped in the effects of racism. It is good to see someone being honest, I would rather here blunt honesty and real dialogue over pandering and denial any day.

Obama supporters, you are kidding yourself if you really think he is better than either of the other 2 democrats. He will be run over by the Republicans if he is our nominee. They will beat him into the ground on his inexperience, especially in foreign policy.

The DNC should be grateful that Hillary is keeping the Democratic base in Florida energized. Florida is a key swing state in the general election.

Obama is on the losing side of this deal. How can anyone argue that citizens are not allowed to vote in a Democracy? The DNC ruling is simply too harsh. The Democrats will most likely lose Florida in the national election if Obama were to edge out Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

Florida also has significantly more electoral votes than South Carolina in the national election. If Hillary and Obama end up close in delegates, the DNC would be much better off nominating a candidate that can carry Florida over South Carolina. Even worse for Obama, South Carolina has historically been a tougher state for the Democrats to win in the national election.

Hillary '08

Those Democrats that are so extremely focused on their PARTY returning to power rather than choosing a candidate based on his/her merits would do well to choose Obama and not Hillary. Hillary is too polarizing and hated by too many people to beat John McCain. Conservatives like Obama, some love him. I admit, as a Republican, the choice between McCain and Obama is a very difficult one, while Hillary, with her very cheap smear tactics and win-at all-costs campaign, is a clear loser.

The Clintons seem to be relying on racism (mostly among Hispanics. whites are voting overwhelmingly for Obama that's why his is such a threat) and gender-loyalty to get votes. So much for substance. So much for a vision of the future of this country.

RE: Obama and the S.C. "black vote":

1. Obama won ALL but two counties in S.C. - only three of the counties were predominantly black. The rest were predominantly white. Beaufort county, an affluent white area (Hilton Head) voted for Obama HEAVILY.

2. S.C. is 67% white and 29% black according to census records, so don't think for a minute that the media isn't trying to "spin" this into a racial issue. Even if Obama had lost HALF of the black vote, he still would have won the state.

Oh, she promises to get their delegates seated, does she? When did Hillary become president of the DNC? Someone clue me in. This woman is pathetic.

Tyran January 29, 2008 11:28 pm ET

"Concerned Voter, I disagree. If Obama had won Florida, I would still think it is a non-issue because no one from the Democratic party campaigned there."

Why did so many more people vote for Hillary than for Obama or Edwards? Even without 'campaigning' (Although, Obama did run ads) Hillary collected many more votes.

This ain't spin, it's the truth. Maybe you don't like it, but it's the truth.

Got lots of people still to vote that will see this.

FOLKS MY HAT GOES OFF TO HILLARY

EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NO DELEGATES...AND ALL CANDIDATES WERE ON SAME GROUND RULES..

HILLARY WON WITH THE LARGEST VOTER TURNOUT...OVER 50%

IF NOTHING ELSE, SHE GOT HER VOICE BACK AND THIS WILL WORK IN HER FAVOR AS SHE MOVES TO SUPERTUESDAY

CONGRATULATIONS HILLLARY...YOU WERE GREAT ON CNN....I DONT HOW YOU KEPT A STRAIGHT FACE KNOWING CNN IS SOOOOO PROOO OBAMA

Steven and Veronica, thank you for setting the record straight. This was an important political omen, one to be repeated next Tuesday. As to the Obama supporters, your good natured disposition changes when your candidate is not the center of focus. The fact is that nearly 900,000 Floridians took their time to vote for their candidate. Instead of remaining seated in their couches to make sniffling snipes, they walked out of their homes and voted. By the logic offered by the Obama supporters, the 543,000 voters, who casted votes for him must be in same league as Senator Clinton's voters. 900,000 votes is not a figment of one's imagination. This is actuality and get real! And lara you are right. As an Asian American, I was incensed by the speech made by the mayor of Atlanta last week. Her remarks, at the expense of President Clinton, has catapulted this election based on race!

Stay on message Democrats – we are running against Republicans! Leave emotion out of this and learn and demand more from the candidates. What do you really know they can achieve? This is too important to turn the race into a fan club. Give credit where and when it is due. In other words,
GROW UP!

Obama is good actor, he should go to the movie business, leave politics to right ones.

NObama would be calling to seat those delegates if he won it. Sour grapes indeed.

AND WHOSE ADS WERE PLAYING ON CNN AND MSNBC IN FLORIDA??

Hillary Clinton's? NOPE

John Edwards'? NOPE

Obama's? YES HE DID! THAT breaks the pledge, NOT fundraisers!

BRING ON SUPER CLINTON TUESDAY!!!

This may be the most honest primary results of any. Florida Democrats were not subject to crazy in-state campaign tactics, negative and dishonest advertisements, etc., and had to vote for which candidate they like from the outside looking in. All candidates were on the ballot and had a fair chance. It is an important win, and I think speaks volumes about how Democrats will vote on Super Tuesday.

Ummmm Hillary, you might want to look at those percentages again. They weren't that bad considering Obama and Edwards weren't even in Flordia campaigning...uuuhhh "fund raising". All the press about saving Florida and Michigan got a lot of free press. Smart move but dirty pool.

Just wait for a "fair" election like South Carolina. Florida is made up of a lot of old folks that just seem to love you. You know the kind that don't think for themselves.

Let's get a fair representation then we'll see who wins.

Hey, Florida voted for the two nominees and is a view of the upcoming election. Delgates counting or not, it is important to see how people are voting. On to Super Tuesday

Just like Hillary left South Carolina and campaigned elsewhere because she knew she was going to lose SC, Obama abandoned FL because he knew there was no way he was going to win there. Obama did not lose Florida because he didn't campaign there, Obama lost Florida because he couldn't win there. Check all the voting statistics if you seriously doubt that, if you've been watching this campaign closely you'll know they favor Hillary bigtime. And this is why Obama is downplaying Florida and saying it doesn't matter now. Too bad for all the Floridians who didn't want to change their primary date but are being disenfranchised now.

Is anyone else concerned that Clinton and Obama are being presented by the news media as the only viable Democrats?

No matter how tainted Edwards is by the Dems failed '04 bid, he's still a better candidate and statesman then either of the two front-runners.

Give Edwards the airtime that the Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee are getting and then maybe we'll have a good shot at getting a real candidate.

On the bright side, this IS America, after all, and the Dems should know that there's no way to attract Republicans with a woman or a black guy (a sad and ugly truth). If nothing else, he's the white guy who's not Hillary.

I've been listening to CNN all evening and all I've heard is Hillary bashing. No one has mentioned that she got more votes than McCain or anyone!! Her voters came out fully knowing that their vote won't count. That is GREAT support!!!

Again, I think Obama is SOOOOOOOOOOOO hypocritical. He does exactly what the Clintons do and then he plays all sanctimonious and victimy. I have always voted for Democrats, but I'm not sure I could vote for him because I think he is not genuine – I think his manipulation by using values and high principles while being so dishonest stinks. He is far more dangerous than Hilary, and I hope those of you who have been duped by him will wake up.

CNN, your support for Obama is very noticeable. Even your headline, "Hilary Trumpets...." is a slap at her. I can't imagine you'd say that Obama Trumpets a win! No, your word for SC was "rout." It seems to me that some media, e.g., CNN, and some old-style politicians are getting back at Bill Clinton by "trumpeting" Obama. Yuk – talk about old-style politics! Obama = old-style cronyism and say anything to get elected. Hillary = not perfect but far better than the Obama.

I think the truly sad and unfortunate thing about all of this is that Hillary was not willing to stay the course in South Carolina and thank her supporters who worked tirelessly to campaign for her in the state as well as get out to vote in the SC primary. Yet, she is willing to go to a state where she did not campaign to thank supporters. That's hypocritical, disingenuous and another sign of just who the Clinton campaign for the White House is all about–Hillary!

I promise that if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination, she will not win in the general election. Republicans wil not let her win. As Roland Martin pointed out tonight, as much as the Republicans have an aversion to John McCain, they would rallly around him in order to beat Hillary. All of a sudden, Republicans who have grown disenchanted wtih the party would get out to vote against Hillary. And, sadly, I would vote against her even though I desperately want to see an end to a Republican-run White House. I cannot be supportive, however, of Hillary's divisive and me-first tactics that evince to me that she does not care about the American people. I almost cannot stand to see the sight of the woman and believe that she would ruin the great chance that we Democrats have to win the Presidency and begin to heal this nation.

I pray to God that come Super Tuesday, Democractic Americans are smart enough to vote for Barack Obama! If not, at least vote for John Edwards. Otherwise, I will begin my campaign amongst fellow Democrats to either vote independent, or, worse, Republican in order to thwart Hillary's efforts. That is a promise!

This is a big win for HRC–delegates or no, tactics used irrelevant, congratulations to her!

I, however, still think the best thing for America is a nomination for Obama. HRC is just another politician. Obama is an American.

~

Wow was that a message from white America ?

I wish everyone would get their facts straight.

Senator Obama's NATIONAL ad was not against the rules.
The DNC approved it.
You can not run a NATIONAL ad and omit ONE state.
Billary could have spent the money and did the same thing.

Also it was not a HUGE win for Billary.
There were NO delegates to win.
Obama 0 – Edwards 0 – Clinton 0 – Kucinich 0

I believe if it were a REAL race in Florida the results would have been much different and many other people other than the people concerned about the property tax issue would have came out in droves to vote and be heard. When intelligent people know that their vote will not count because there are no delegates to win they are more apt to stay home!

All this noise about Florida and Michigan not haveing delegates at the convention just proves one thing. The parties and electoral college need to be removed from the election process. Then and only then will EVERY state have a voice then only the votes counted in the general election will matter, instead of all this campagining for delegates hype. But then again, why would the parties want the PEOPLE to actually pick their President. Yeah, there's a radical idea.

Doesn't really matter what the Democratic National Convention says.... the voice of the people SHOULD NEVER be discounted. They should have found another way of penalizing Florida & Michigan. To take away their VOICE in the process is both unconstitutional and wrong.

I am from Tampa, Florida.....and my vote should count REGARDLESS of anything else.

OK ... firstly, I'm a republican, secondly, I never cared for the Clintons, thirdly .... I have a fully functioning brain ...

This is what I know ...
The DNC spanked Florida because it wanted to have its voice heard in the primaries. The Rebulicans rebuked this change, but fell far short of taking away all delegates.

Even though the dem candidates agreed to not actively seek votes, one dem did through the form of TV ads, yet he failed to garner as many votes as Hillary - who played by the rules.

Hillary is asking that the delegates be seated following the selection of the candidates, which is the least that can be done.

Look ... I think McCain and Romney can both take Obama ... as the man is a happy, upbeat, motivational man, but he is weak on information. I think Hillary is the dems only real chance.

It makes no logical sense what the dems did to MI and FL, but boy oh boy, I'm glad you did it because my taxes won't go up for the next 9 years with a republican in the white house again.

Keep on thinking with emotion ... please ... the pocketbook you'll be saving will be mine!

Cmon CNN this is totally biased coverage in favor of Obama. How can Hillary "promise" to get the Florida delegates seated? This is "fear mongering." I have seen other posts lately suggesting your coverage is becoming biased; please be fair...

I tried for a second time to watch this speech she gave, and I still can't get through it. She is screaming with that grating voice of hers, I find it really hard to listen to what she's saying. I know it sounds like I'm bashing her, but play the clip and see for yourself, she's brutal. I thought she was much better one on one with Blitzer later on.

America, evaluate the exit polls carefully. Non of the young vote that is usually for Obama came out. The group between 19 and 30 came out in very low percentages. If Obama had been in working in the state the young vote would have come out for him. Listen we don't have time on our hands like the retires that voted for Mrs. Clinton, if our votes are not going to count for something, we'll spend our working on something more important.

Just stating the facts.

IDR

I was going to post a lengthy blog comment, but then read yours, Jonathon in Chicago. Upon reading your very eloquent breakdown......all I can say is "AMEN"!

– And I was once a Clinton supporter. She's really turned me off.

I know you won't run my comments. That's fine. Just wanted to share my disgust with the best political team on television.

I used to respect CNN because I believed CNN upheld the highest journalist standards. That is no longer the case, of course and this viewer is one of many who will turn CNN off permanently after the elections. Until then I will hold my nose and watch only to work on countering your slander and manipulations you all really think, the viewers aren't aware of. How arrogant, ignorant and crude.

I predict: CNN will soon be a laughing stock world wide. you can censor all you like. Fair is fair I suppose because your viewers are censoring you faster and faster.

Tell me what is the problem with political coverage that does not see that Senator Clinton, without campaigning got over 800,000 votes...... more than any Republican including McCain.

Is CNN truly the most trusted unbiased network...one wonders......

Guess what..Obama lost a race that the people of Florida thought meant something. So it does mean something!!

no delegates for you Hillary

It is really outrageous that the Clintons are asking the DNC to allow the Michigan(where she ran unoposed) and now the Florida delegates to vote in the convention, and even more so if the DNC accepts this request.

This will force OBAMA to go to court and independent of the result, would without
doubt create a climate in and outside the Democratic party which would lead to
its defeat later.

If the valid DNC decisions to penalize States is just or not, is out of discusion.
Fact is that all three Dem candiadtes had accepted it and therefore pledged not to
campaign there.

I'm not uninformed, but I'm still impressed. I want a president who will scratch and claw if she represents me. That some how impresses me. I'm mean what else are you going to do as a candidate? Run around and wave banners of "CHANGE."

Of course Hillary won FL with no campaigning from the other two candidates. She has been a national household name for close to 20 years...ONLY because of Bill!

Any HRC supporter knows that if more people become familiar with Barack Obama or John Edward, Hillary's boat will sink like a lead weight!.

I agree with your thorough analysis, Jonathan in Chicago! Everybody has to play fairly – nobody can change the rules in the middle or at the end of the election!! – it is not fair in any simple game – here we are talking about election of a democratic nominee for the president of the USA!! If HRC is so concerned about the voters in Florida – why she did not say anything about it before – when DNC set the rules last year?!

I congraduate Hillary Clinton on her victory... I agree with the concerned Voter that posted before me. The Obama supporters are trying to sweep Hillary Flordia win under the rug... I'm from SC and I voted for Hillary in the primary and I will do the same in November... I am so excited about this victory going into Super Tuesday next week.

Hillary '08

Not one Barack supporter answered my question so far, so I will ask it again.

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

I guess Like Mr. Obama, you just choose to ignore anything Hillary..lol

Concerned Voter, I disagree. If Obama had won Florida, I would still think it is a non-issue because no one from the Democratic party campaigned there. I might have gotten a chuckle out of it all since Hillary had already planned to fly there and give an acceptance speech. But beyond that, I do not think it would have matter at all because he would still walk away with the same amount of delegates he walked into the night with.

I happen to like John Edwards, but I think it is shortsighted to argue that Obama has no substance. Obama has plenty of substance and is very clear about what direction he would like to lead this country. Obama has consistently outlined his agenda for all those who have listened. For emphasis, how many times have we heard Obama talk about what he would do in terms of education and insuring that more Americans are able to affordably send their kids to college. I have not heard the other two candidates talk about education nearly as much. Edwards has talked about ending poverty but has not specifically spoken about the ways in which education can be used to help in that cause. How many times I have heard Barack outline his plans for the economy or how he would work hard to insure that senior citizens are able to live comfortably in their retirement years without having to do things like pay into social security beyond the age they start receiving it. Let's face it, Barack is a man that can do more than inspire people with eloquent speeches. He has the capability and character of getting the job done.

Concerned Voter- of course she got all those votes when nobody campaigned. Do you remember how far she was ahead in every state before this thing started? She was ahead by a huge margin in Iowa and both Obama and Edwards closed the gap and beat her. She started out ahead in every state because she is the highly well known Senator and wife of a President who everyone knew was going to eventually run as soon as she took her senate seat. I'm for Edwards as well but I don't see how she deserves any credit for this since she was the presumptive nominee to begin with.

I think some people don't understand these "florida" ads Barack was showing. They were national ads, put into national TV airtime, which is not decided by each local station. So, yes, they did appear in FL, but only because that's part of our nation.

Congratulations Hillary. 900,000 people inFla. approve of you. And the people of Fla count to true Americans. Wow, you routed Obama by about 300,000 votes. Huge!

Obama came out after the results and said that Floridians had "no idea" what the candidates were about since they didn't campaign there.

How insulting.

This insinuates that those in Florida don't read the paper, don't watch the debates, and don't watch news reports.

Shame on you, Obama, for labeling Floridians as completely uneducated.

Her leading rivals, South Carolina primary winner Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John Edwards, did not campaign in Florida. They opted to concentrate on next week's "Super Tuesday" contests in states such as New York, California, Missouri and Georgia.

How misleading: as you acknowledge above, Sen. Clinton didn't campaign in Florida any more than her rivals did. (Fundraising was explicitly allowed in the campaigning ban.) And she didn't "trumpet," her win as the story on the main page declares; she graciously thanked the people of Florida for their vote of confidence.

No delegates Hillary. And no dice. Why try to break the rules? This is proof that you can't keep your word. Stop the lies Hillary.

Go ahead Hillary and steal the election, you'll see this long-time Democrat vote for Mickey Mouse!

Now John Edwards I would vote for as my second pick. But, the best leader and our best candidate is Barack...he has his ideas and they ARE substantive – open your eyes – he is inspiring and will bring new leadership to the Country – I WAS IN SOUTH CAROLINA – I met many people in the campaign – this movement is for real!

Let the best candidate win...

For me, it's Obama in '08

I just heard Wolf Blitzer say on CNN that Hillary has declared herself the victor in the FL Dem primaries. I dont think it is just Hillary... It has been CNN that CNN has been using the "victory" word and thus help propagate the underhanded, desperate tactics of the Clinton campaign.

Some othe rcable channels didnt declare her a victor and just stuck to the facts that she won the most votes , but the fact remains that there are no delegates at stake here even though she is desperately trying to spin this into a momentum gathering event..

I am not sure if everyone forgot but Hilary was campaigning in Florida last week, before voting in S.C. She is paying dirty, very dirty. Actually her behaving reminds me on Bush' against McCain.
I am Obama supporter but I wouldn't mind Edward's either. I am very against Hilary and if she would be the presidential candidate I would give my vote to Republicans for sure. I do not see worse politics then hers actually.

Hillary is a fine candidate, but no way in hell can she win a general election against McCain. NO REPUBLICANS AND FEW INDEPENDENTS WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY. Obama is the only democrat that has a chance in a general election and exit poles say he has a very good chance at that. I do not support the surge. I do not want 4-8 more years in a war that cannot be won. I don't want more republicans on the supreme court.

For the good of the country please, please, please vote for Obama.

"she is going to end up winning over 1,000,000 votes and will end the evening with more votes than the Republican winner John McCain. She did all that without even campaigning."

um, i'm sorry but the last time i checked Floridians have access to tv and internet. surely they heard the fuss she was making over seating their delegates. that type of pandering works well with plenty of voters, especially if those voters perfectly fit her demographic appeal – i.e. over 65 and hispanic. also, in case you don't remember the name "clinton" is a pretty familiar one (especially for the older people) and obama might have been too much of a change for the majority of them.

this win isn't that significant. she went in with a big lead, she comes out with a big lead. however, in SC she went in with a big lead (more than 20%) and came out with a big defeat. that represented a more than 40% turnaround. that's huge. the numbers in iowa, NH and nevada were similar (obama had gained some momentum in NH, but the her emotional moment did wonders for her). so basically what i'm saying is that when obama campaigns, things happen. as people become more familiar with him, they realize that this is the change they need and they don't have to fall back into the past just because it is more familiar.

Concerned Voter
I agree 100%.

Go Hillary Go!

you are avoiding the fact that obama is NOT getting the white vote
he is also NOT getting the hispanic vote

deal with it

I think all the delegates in each state should be allowed to go to the convention and vote the way their respective states VOTERS want. This is going to be another year of Florida not being able to get anything right and another botched election... THE People of the US should be heard. wether or not the DNC decided they were not going to count them. Who decided that the votes don't count. Shouldn't that be left for the people to vote and for the other senators and news organizations to stay in the back ground worry about the economy and us highlights and let the presidential canidates have to work like they did back in old days when every vote did count. Not only the votes that are chose.

I feel nauseous. Hillary has the audacity to publically state that Obama snubbed her. As a female, I have lost all respect for Hillary at her latest underhanded tactic. She is back to playing the victim again. Get out the tissues.

For all the negative press Hillary has gotten leading up to the Florida Democratic non-primary, it is worth noting that she got more votes than any other candidate in either party.

Florida has become a spin race for Hillary. The Clintons have gotten desperate. Hillary is even saying that Obama snubbed her. How sad. Hillary why did you snub the voters in South Carolina???

Hillary has struck... Fools Gold. After Florida maybe she'll get a chance to fly back to South Carolina and finally thank the supporters there who worked on her campaign.

She can have my vote,I promise,if she can explain why her and Billy thought it nescasary t take things from the Whitehouse that did'nt belong to them.OH PLEASE OH PLEASE QUIT!!!

What Hillary is doing shows everyone how underhanded she is.
Why didn't she speak up sooner instead of at the last minute?
And, why is she trying to change the rules after the contest is over?
Now she's trying to turn Floridians against the DNC?
I hope that more Democratic party leaders take a good look at her despicable behavior and decide to support Obama. I'm willing to bet that no one wants to work for someone with such low morals.

I'm a woman and I'm for Barack Obama!
Obama 08!

Obama supporters should look up the rules before saying Hillary didn't follow them. She broke nothing.

She also said she get the Florida delegates seated IF she was the nominee. Not she will get the seated period. Nice cherrypicking there CNN!!

Obama supporters are only happy their aren't any delegates at this point, and it's sick to throw that in the face of the 1.8 million voters in Florida. According to the foundations of America, their votes SHOULD count.

'Clinton thanks Floridians, promises to get delegates seated'

This will never happen.

Only a complete dummy would think that Florida matters. This is just Clinton spin and underhanded tactics.

Congratulations, Senator Clinton. And thank you for recognizing the voices and votes of the Florida Democrats. I understand there is a good chance now that the DNC will eventually be forced to allow Florida and Michigan to seat their delegates.
God's speed, Hillary!

Tonight the democratic establishment looks with disdain at HRC, if she cant simply follow party rules, declaring herself the winner in a non-contest, how can anybody take her serious after this? obama is the best to beat mccain! vote for obama!

You're being hoodwinked, Florida.

I have to chime in here with the lot who point out that she agreed not to campaign in this state. Now that she won the competition because there was none, she wants to have the delegates seated so we can hand the election to her. Talk about doing anything to win an election.

Best off all though is the fact that she only got 50% of the votes in an unopposed race. Obama was running in at least a 3-way race (if we don't count Gravel and such) and got 55% of the vote! How is it a victory when as many people voted "anyone but you" as voted for you?

She may win this nomination, and it will be to the detriment of the Democratic Party and the nation at large.

GObama '08!!!

Why did she have to make this spectacle if she weren't intimidated? Why did she start all of this the night of the SC Primary? Why is when she is in the position to lose she makes a plea! Can't you use that "voice" of yours that you said you've found with some confidence and show up elsewhere and support your party's rules?

Edwards or Obama '08 or this Indie is going McCain.

Hillary,

Please do not try to manipulate the DNC.
You will lose the little bit of respect some people still have left for you. Play by the rules that you agreed to and show that you have a shred of integrity somewhere left within you.

Obama '08

Latest poll results from Florida: Hillary won highest in the dementia demographic. A subsection of geriatrics who thought they were voting for Bill.

The result in Florida pretty much mirrors how the people will vote in the rest of the country with the exception of Illinois and Ma. perhaps come super tuesday.

Facts:

(1) Barack ran television ads (as late as today) in Florida in defiance of the DNC's rules. Clinton did not do this. They both had fundraisers they attended in Florida.

(2) Hillary asked the DNC to allow FL delegates at the convention long before the primary season started. AFTER the nominee is chosen, people. SHE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE SEATED ONLY AFTER THE NOMINEE WAS CHOSEN so they could participate in the political process AFTERWARDS. SHE HAS NOT ASKED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE!!!

WE ARE SO EASILY MANIPULATED.

Here's to being informed and IMPRESSED go Hillary - thank you for giving us Floridians a voice - and we will again speak up for you and for this country in the general election.

Obama and your cult members: try not to whine too loudly.

Unfortunately, Paul is one of those Hillary enablers!!! God Bless us all for minds like this one among us!!!!

It seems like cheating for Hillary to declare victory in Florida. If this woman wins the nomination look for the democrats to lose the general election again. Independents like me will never tolerate the Clintons again. If Obama wins however, the democrats will probably win in November.

I guess Chicago has forgotten about the Michelle Obama secret rendavou?!! This national media sucks!

If she were to get these delegates I will vote for McCain just to spite the Democratic party.

Obama 08

I am a John Edwards supporter. I think he is FAR SUPERIOR to both candidates as a Democrat and as a nominee to beat John Mccain in November. However, I believe it is absolutely ridiculous that all you Obama supporters are trying to take this win away from Hillary. If Obama were winning with 50% of the vote you'd all be screaming and jumping around that he "trounced" her just like if Edwards had 50% of the vote I'd be screaming and jumping around about his "thumping" of both the media darlings. However, you have to give Hillary credit. She is going to end up winning over 1,000,000 votes and will end the evening with more votes than the Republican winner John Mccain. She did all that without even campaigning. That's pretty darned significant and all you Obama supporters can't take that away.

Now that I've said that, please consider John Edwards. He is the one candidate who ACTUALLY HAS IDEAS to change this country in a positive way. Obama gives wonderful speeches about change but just doesn't seem to have any real substance.

Edwards '08

Check the exit polls: most of the vote for Hillary was cast in December and early January. Obama won most of the vote cast in the last 2 weeks including today. That should tell everybody that Obama is on the rise. With McCain likely to win the GOP nomination, get real. Hillary can't win the general elections. Billary will help enormously to bring out the vote for the Republicans. Those guys just hate the them. A lot of independents as well. They LOVE to run against the Clinton's. Just imagine, what they smear campaigns will bring up about Bill's "activities" over the last 8 years or the funding of his presidential library.
Obama especially – and to a degree Edwards – can win the general election. We have seen that independents and even Republicans vote for him. With McCain's stand on the war and abortion and ... do you really want another Republican in the White House?

Obama won't have to worry about the National Election he won't be competing in it! Go hillary!!!! Any canidate that goes to the states that "Dont matter" deserves a bit more in respect. It shows they truly care about the people. Not just the delegates:) Think about it.

I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS SINCE I HAVE JUST EXPERIENCED A MAJOR REVELATIO IN MY LIFE.

Within the past 10 years I have come to admit that I have a lot of racism within me. I believe that most of it comes from the ways that I was raised and the way that things are in this country.

I have a lot of friends who share the same attitudes towards other races that I do, HOWEVER, we have all been able to agree on quite a few things here lately.

1. FAIR is FAIR (and UNFAIR is UNFAIR): Barack Obama tried with all his might to enter this race as a human being. The Clintons made it a point to drag him down in the mud for the sake of winning regardless of the fact that the people believed in him.

2. It is a fact that we all have our own opinions, but one thing that is factual is that the ENTIRE WORLD has come to DISLIKE the US. This country has done a lot to harm a lot of people, including its own citizens. The fact is that Reagan, George Senior, The Clintons, and George Jr. have had very much to do with it all. You at least owe it to yourselves to research what some of the past administrations have done to hurt us.

Reagan, Iran Contra Affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra, you must read the information found at this link to even begin to understand how bad this was…(is))

Bush Senior, Desert Storm, Gulf War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_storm)

The Clintons, NAFTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement is a very large part of the reason we have seen many of our jobs sent south of the border.)

And we need not go into the problems that Bush Jr. has caused.

THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN WITHSTAND ANOTHER HARD BLOW TO THE STATE OF THIS UNION.

3. This country has not seen TRUE HOPE since Dr. Martin Luther King and the Kennedy's.

I sincerely mean this in no way to offend anyone, but I have never had a deep regard for blacks. But the fact of the matter is that, within my lifetime, I have never seen hope like the hope that Barack Obama has inspired in people. With all of the negative portrayals of black people (which is what I blame for the way that I am) I can see why blacks honor this guy so much. He is literally a hero to them. But at the same time, I feel like he represents the person inside of all of us who has fought to overcome all that is against us. I mean, this guy is a black man in the US, of all places, who, regardless of whether he wins or not, will be remembered until the end of time for what he has become.

One thing I am certain of is the fact that our country is on its knees. No empire can rule forever. But I think that the one thing that will give our country a chance to stay afloat is a new form of politics. Although I somewhat regret to say it, if Barack Obama follows through with his promise to include the American people in on decision making, this will be what saves us from ourselves. Now, by no means am I saying that this guy is a saint. Personally I think all politicians are crooked in some way.

Now, I'm not asking you to vote for any particular person. Personally, I have a lot to consider when stepping into that registration booth. My family values. Embedded prejudices. All sorts of things. I really, really want to vote for Barack Obama (he really is a heck of a guy even though he’s black), but I have a lot overcome before I am able to make that commitment. I hope that I can. I know a lot of you share my feelings.

Let’s all take this stuff a little more seriously folks.

Greetings, people:
Those who are referring to the Obama AD in Florida are truly ignorant!!!!! This is very serious; most of these people are so ignorant it makes some of us SICK!!

The AD is by CNN; this AD is running and has been doing so in almost ALL the big states for quite some time now. I am an avid viewer of CNN in TX and have been seeing this AD since SC.

Wake up people; other nations truly and correctly laugh at us in the US because most of us are so uninformed, ignorant.. you name it!!!

When I run into so many dumb ones on university campuses, I think the public might be better off!!! However, events like this one, and the cheering for Hillary tell me that some of the people out there are equally ignorant and quite uneducated!!! God Bless us all…

Perhaps the state of Florida should simply stay out of this process, given that they simply DO NOT FOLLOW BASIC, I MEAN BASIC RULES!!!

This will come back to haunt the Democrats as the Republicans will use this so-called win of Hillary against them in the general election:

PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO REGARD FOR LAWS AND RULES OF THIS NATION!!!!

Two words for the Obama supporters: Sour Grapes.
One question Barack fans. If Barack had won by the same margin, would you still feel the 1.5 million voters in Florida didn't matter?

I have never seen clearer acts of desperation than the HRC campain.

1.) Smear tactics, distortions & lies.

2.) Crying on public TV for sympathy votes.

3.) Disenfranchising voters

4.) Race-baiting

5.) Claiming victory in non-delegate states (FL/MI)

Has her campaign no shame? Of course not! Her 'win-at-all-costs' campaign must be stopped.

I hope that those in the Obama campaign will join Senator Clinton's effort to seat the delegates eventually chosen in Florida. No democrat should celebrate, or seek to profit from, the disenfranchisement of any voter.

Nor should any Democrat ever brag about having received more delegates while losing the popular vote. Those self-serving attitudes are core values in the Republican Party, but not ours.

Hillary thinks the Clintons are bigger than their own party.
Her 'victory' in Florida can still impress uninformed voters.

By analogy, the New York Jets went 3-1 in NFL preseason action this year. Shouldn't those games count for the regular season? There were thousands of fans who paid good money to see those games. Not counting them seems grossly unfair.

I cannot congratulate Senator Clinton as what she is attempting to do is unfair and unethical.

While she is no doubt within the 'letter of the law' as set and agreed to by all candidates, she is well outside the 'spirit of the law'; she is manipulating the Florida electorate to gain much needed momentum in advance of Super Tuesday. She didn't want the story to be Obama's win in South Carolina, and so just before the SC primary, elected to raise her protest over the DNC rules on FL and MI. She does not care about the voters in FL - she cares about managing the headlines (as do all candidates to lesser and greater degrees), and if she can garner some much needed delegates through feigned outrage at the disenfranchisement of the FL and MI voters - all the better.

I don't agree with the DNC's decision, but I do care about the election and the credibility of the eventual nominee for president. In the best of circumstances, the DNC would have opted to enact different sanctions against the FL and MI delegations; but, they did not. Now Clinton wants to reverse her agreement when it benefits her. I get it, and so do many other voters. I find Clinton's tactics to be disingenuous and cynical.

Indeed, Senator Clinton, along with President Clinton, have alienated a considerable portion of the party base (not to mention independents, moderates and other potential swing votes) through their underhanded tactics. This has been the topic of discussion on the blogs, the Sunday news, and print media. Their behavior has prompted remarks from various democratic leaders, and most likely influenced key endorsements for Senator Obama.

What do you think will happen to the democratic electorate if they believe that the DNC has caved into the Clinton bully tactics (and boy, bullying has been such a hit these past 7+ years!) and essentially given a sizable number of delegates to Clinton - possibly leading to her nomination? How many potential voters will place their votes elsewhere or elect to abstain from voting altogether? How many voters will feel disenfranchised IN THE GENERAL ELECTION by the actions of the DNC and the Clintons through such a decision - and how will that impact there willingness to support the Democratic nominee? I have already spoken to a number of voters, and many are calling for a boycott under these circumstances (a course of action I don't support).

Indeed, the polling data suggests that McCain is the likely GOP nominee, and among democrats, he is the least objectionable opponent. How quickly will McCain and his supporters tap into the resentment engendered by a Clinton selection v. election (remember how we all felt after the 2000 elections - we did not take kindly to having are leaders selected.)

If Clinton plays by the rules agreed upon by all the candidates and wins the nominations, I am certain that she will receive broad support in the general, but if she is enabled by the DNC to manipulate the campaigns for unfair advantage and wins thusly, she and you will have effectively alienated a sizable base in the party and will run a very serious risk of losing the general election against the strongest GOP candidate in the field.