February 5, 2008
Posted: February 5th, 2008 09:32 PM ET

(CNN) - Independents and crossover Republicans are keeping the Democratic race in Missouri extremely tight.

Clinton holds an 8-point lead over Obama there among Democrats who voted in the primary. But Missouri is one of those primaries that allows Independents and Republicans vote in the Democratic primary, and those voters are overwhelmingly supporting Obama.

The Democratic base is split between Obama and Clinton, but Independents clearly favor Obama.

–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bill Schneider • Missouri


annie hall   February 6th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

UP here in canada we are very nervous about republicans. Are they not being a little too quiet. I keep thinking they are hiding and whispering and yes even encouraging Obama, then all of a sudden, as soon as Hillary is disposed of, BAMMMM , they'll roll out their machinery of doom and squash Obama in nothing flat. I have heard many republicans joyfully claim that they could beat Hillary easily and so are much more worried about facing Obama. How nice of them to share that with us, but i can't help remembering the old folk tale.. (probably Uncle Remus)...PLEASE.... what ever you do....DON'T THROW ME IN THAT BRIAR PATCH!!!!! time will tell.

NORMAN   February 6th, 2008 4:41 am ET

IN ORDER FOR DEMOCRATIC TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE AND MAKE THE (MEANINGFUL) CHANGE -

OBAMA FOR VP

GOBAMA!!!

GO DEMOCRATS!!!

CONGRATS TO HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON!!!

CLINTON-OBAMA GO! GO! GO!

jay   February 6th, 2008 4:38 am ET

That what you think ,Sweetie!!!!!!!

jay   February 6th, 2008 4:36 am ET

That's what you think, Sweetie

jay   February 6th, 2008 4:34 am ET

Hey Joseph,
What are you talking about, Obama Did NOT win in NY,, What Primary are you looking at, he won in the states that hardly have no Delegates, and those states are republican states,, What close races are you talking about??????
Clinton WON all the BIG States , LIKE CALIFORNIA< Again , He Won with the states that are Republican, also they do not have alot of delegates.

Get with the program!!!!! , Read it right and understand what you are reading, comment on the right statement and then you can write it. HELLO!!!!!!

Claud   February 6th, 2008 1:43 am ET

Obama laughs last!

Melinda   February 6th, 2008 1:26 am ET

What an amazing state... Go Barack!! Fastastic.... I hope that we soon will have a nominee worth voting for!

Joseph   February 6th, 2008 12:32 am ET

Roy,

Good point. They're probably in the California blog comment area, stroking their egos about their projected win there.

Clinton was expected to win CA, even Obama said as much. But, the facts of the night are:

1. Obama won more in NY than Clinton won in IL.
2. Obama won all caucus states by a huge margin
3. Obama won in many areas, from the south to the NE to the midwest and North
4. With few exception, Obama kept all of the races very close. Those that he won though, he usually won by huge margins.

Summary: Clinton may walk away with more delegates tonight, but the momentum is clearly not yet in her court.

Roy   February 6th, 2008 12:21 am ET

Funny how the Clinton supporters got eerily quiet.

Joseph   February 6th, 2008 12:15 am ET

CNN is now showing Obama ahead by about 5000.

jeanette   February 6th, 2008 12:06 am ET

only 4% left now. It's still to close to call. Looks like everyone has been wrong!!!

Curtis   February 6th, 2008 12:06 am ET

But potentially eschewed in Obama's favor due to the vote he got in delegate rich cities.

Roy   February 6th, 2008 12:01 am ET

Less than 4,000 votes now seperate the two, with 6% still remaining to be reported. At this point, it's essentially a tie since Missouri has a proportional delegation.

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 11:46 pm ET

Hillary or Barack, we will WIN in November!!!!!!!!!!

LETS GO DEMOCRATS

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 11:43 pm ET

If the numbers stay steady, Obama will win the state. 17% left in the city (70% Obama), and 16% left in the county (61% Obama) There is not a way, if these numbers continue, that Clinton can win.

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

I don't think they will name a winner untill 100% of the vote is in. If the numbers stay steady, either could win.

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 11:30 pm ET

Obama will take the state. They could project it now and would seem really smart to the rest of the nation.

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

With 100% in for St. Charles county, Clinton wins there. I'm shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roy   February 5th, 2008 11:27 pm ET

Clinton's lead is now down to just 3%. And there's still some 25-35% of the greater St. Louis area still to come in.

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 11:26 pm ET

We all know. People talk about delegates and popular vote in different senses. They each have their own uses.

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 11:22 pm ET

Missouri isn't a 'TAKE ALL DELEGATES" state for democrates. They split by districts.

Brandy, NJ   February 5th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Oh this is too funny. All day I have heard comments about how important MO is. Even earlier tonight I heard about how they think it will be for Obama and how important it is in predicting the President.

Then after Clinton started to have a strong showing CNN has quieted down on it.

NOW THEY JUST SAID that MO isn't really as important as MN is .... and since Obama won that ... than it is really more important than MO.

HOW FREAKING FUNNY.

CNN is disgusting. So disgusting

Clinton today
Obama tomorrow
Think ahead dems
Anti CNN

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

The other county of note is Greene. This county went to Clinton. This county, thought, is an anomaly. It is heavily conservative, a bastion of conservative support. It is firmly in the Bible belt. The other counties are areas that are always swing, that is why MO is such a good bellwether of the election.

Obama will win this state based on extrapolations of current results and changes.

Roy   February 5th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

irma,
Simply put, I don't trust her. She's too much the consummate, calculating politician. Granted, I think she could be devastatingly effective as a President. But I think the character of such a Presidency would be just as manipulative and cynical as what we've endured for the last 7 1/2 years.

I can live with Clinton winning the White House, but I won't be thrilled about it. Just as I could live with McCain winning it, but I wouldn't be thrilled about it. Obama is the only candidate currently who I would actually feel good about voting for.

Obama   February 5th, 2008 10:54 pm ET

vote for me

percy silva   February 5th, 2008 10:52 pm ET

hello america I'm from peru and I would like to see Obama as your presidente

saludos from

Chimbote, peru

Brian   February 5th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

From someone who actually lives in MO, the reason they aren't calling the state is because the totals are currently comprised almost entirely of rural counties. These counties are mostly older white folk, who have not exactly been Obama's core constituency. Most of the population is concentrated in a few counties - Boone, Jackson, St. Charles, St. Louis, and St. Louis City. Take a look at the county results, and you'll notice Obama with fairly sizable leads in all but one.

Just saying...

Huckabee   February 5th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

Obama has carried some important states

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

In MO, where I am from, there are a few heavily populated, heavily liberal counties. These include counties such as St. Louis City, St. Louis County, Jackson, and Boone. All of these have yet to report more than 50% of their votes.
As the results from these counties come in, Obama's vote has gone up consistently
----------------
Therefore, as those counties continue to report, Obama will continue to gain percentage points.

Due to the number of voters in St. Louis City and the fact that under 30% have reported, and he is winning that county with 70%, shows that he has the potential to swing this state. In fact, he most likely will because of how he has gained since St. Louis started reporting.

Arizona is a different matter, of which I am less informed.

irma   February 5th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

Roy, why not Hillary? She has done a lot for kids and that is the main reason I back her. I know that programs that benefit children is a priority with her. Then there's the whole environment thing with Bobby K. Jr. Of course health care... Why not Roy? Come on.....

Aj   February 5th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

I think it's funny how Obama's winning in all these white states but all these racists and Hillary supporters claim ONLY black people vote for him!!!! This SHOULD shut u up right now.

Huckabee   February 5th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

thank god! That mormon is going down..............

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

Roy may be right. Jackson co. and St. Louis Co. are ahead for Obama. They are the largest in Missouri. Seems Clinton is ahead in the majority of the small counties.

irma   February 5th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Yeah Joe! Sick 'em!

Joe   February 5th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

Why do they not have Arizona on the ticker at the bottom of CNN TV??? Btw .... look as if Clinton has a commanding lead still in MO ... and also in AZ

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Sorry Irma. I meant to say Howard,

irma   February 5th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Jeanette, I meant Howard Dean. Is that who you meant?

Roy   February 5th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

irma,
This may come as a shock to you, but Hillary is not Bill. I voted for Bill twice. If Hillary wins the nomination, I'm going to be hard-pressed to vote for her.

Joe   February 5th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

They have to honor Michigan and Florida in the end .. political pressure and the people pressure from all the other states will make it so .. even if they only get half their delegates like the Republicans ... they will have some representation.

I believe they will reinstate some of their delegates.

irma   February 5th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Huckeby and Obama are winning the same states. HUH. Interesting....I wonder what that means? Any labels for that crowd CNN?

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

The results were 57-38 within the last 30 minutes

The results are now 53-43.

Obama will take this state.

irma   February 5th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

The so called status quo is Bush and the Republicans. Clinton is not one of them and that is why they hate her. Were any of you Democrats 18 or older when Bill was President? Because other than the Republicans going totally Crucible and Scarlet Letter on him with witch hunt tactics to get him on something, anything, things were good. In fact we voted him in twice! Then came Bush. I know loyal Clinton people didn't put that joke in.

Roy   February 5th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

As I stated above, St. Louis could well swing the vote. The results are starting to come in now, and they're heavily in Obama's favor. 71% for Obama so far in St. Louis City, with only 28% reporting. And Clinton's statewide lead is steadily dwindling as the urban results come in.

Patricia   February 5th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

As a Canadian listening I am ready to "leave CNN due to their biased reports -and go to another station" – your pro Obama comments are unbearable! I always thought CNN was the station "you can trust" HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

Irma,
John Dean has nothing to say about those Florida and Michigan delegates. The canidates will have to object to what happened, and then it will go before a committee, which Dean has nothing to do with. I feel the votes in both states should count, even if the so-called officials deciced to have early primaries.

Curtis   February 5th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

As an interesting note: CNN has county by county results. If you look at the county-by-county results, they paint a very interesting picture.

You wanna know why they aren't declaring Clinton? St. Louis county reported only 5% of their vote, and Obama gained 4%. With only FIVE PERCENT! That doesn't even include St. Louis County (15% reporting, majority Obama), Boone (heavily liberal and young) and Jackson (also heavily liberal). Conservative Democrat counties are the ones you are really seeing. All of the small counties (conservative by nature), Green, Springville, and Jefferson counties are the ones who have reported almost all of their votes. This race will be much closer than you think it seems right now.

We will see who wins, but the more liberal counties still have yet to report.

Ron   February 5th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Clinton is a 60's Liberal and that's great – BC was same – 90's were the most prosperous times for America. We need those times again

mrsp   February 5th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

We believe Clinton represents the status quo and if she were elected it would be business as usual. It may well be the this is the reason for the "Obama Fever" that is sweeping the country. America is tired, spent and morally and financially bankrupt! We're borrowing money from China to keep a war going. Not good.

mrsp   February 5th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

By the way, we've always liked Obama since we saw and heard him speak on 60 minutes last year. We like him for his character! I also favor women in politics but think that Clinton is too centrist, too "republican" and I would never vote for someone based on their gender or color. The "soul" has no gender or color.
I can't believe that reading, thinking, intelligent Americans would do this but then again there are many of us who do not read or think and get nearly all of our information from mainstream, highly controlled media instead of by reading independent journalism.

Roy   February 5th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

None of the major networks are calling the MO race yet, and I imagine that the reason why is that St. Louis has not reported in yet, and surrounding St. Louis County has only 2% reporting. That's a heavily urban area with a significant black population, unlike much of the rest of Missouri.

So all the Clinton supporters crying foul and "media conspiracy" need to take the prissy pants off and just wait for the numbers to come in.

Ron   February 5th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

Vote with your remote – leave CNN due to their FOX like biased reports -go to another station – email management let them know

irma   February 5th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

Kate, no one is saying anything mean or vulgar. So a positive message means; someone who votes for Obama. Why don't you just admit that?

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Clinton is clearly the Missouri winner. CNN, what are you waiting for? She's 20 points ahead.......duh

Mirta   February 5th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

I am seeing a much bigger lead than what is being reported.

More free advertising for BHO, I guess.

HIllary '08

Paul   February 5th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

Just checked some of the Missouri counties and I think it is interesting that the typically Republican leaning counties show the Democrats in those counties favoring Hillary. But in the counties where the Democrats usually win for the Senator (McCaskill), the Democrats are leaning heavily to Obama.

anton   February 5th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

Interesting to note that Republicans are crossing over to vote for Obama. Could it be that these Republicans want Obama for the Democratic nominee so that the Republicans in November can trounce over the Democratic nominee...I think so!!

Zina   February 5th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

It's disappointing how the HRC supporters stomp on any supposed lead by Obama. With good conscience, I cannot vote in the general election with her supporters. I love Obama's message and proposed policies, but I do not use the tactics that the HRC supporters use to try to make myself feel better about this dramatic race for delegates. So sad that the dems actually had a chance this year.

No matter what happens, each side will need each other in the end. You can catch more flies with sugar than you can with salt!

Obama '08

mrsp   February 5th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

In California, as Non-partisan voters, we voted 2 weeks ago with "absentee ballots" for John Edwards. We didn't know he would drop out and now our votes will not be counted but we do support Obama over Clinton. I wish we'd have waited to vote. Yet, as even the paper ballots are counted with machines, owned by Diebold and ES&S, ( controlled by two brothers, who are heavily supported by the far right)–we have to wonder if all the votes are really counted fairly?

irma   February 5th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

I think that if independents and republicans are aloud to select our Democratic candidates, then Michigan and Florida Democrats should be allowed to select our Democratic candidate as well. Especially since they are from the Democratic Party. Come on Dean!

irma   February 5th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Hey, we Clinton people are not the past; we exsist NOW!

Kate   February 5th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

Finally a positive post. Thanks NORVEF. Thanks for reminding me the world isn't so ugly.

No matter what happens tonight, I still say YES WE CAN.

jeanette   February 5th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

If CNN had it's way, they would say Obama is the projected winner of the national election in November. Forget what the people have to say.

polivox   February 5th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

It used to be that FOX News was a dependable source for "spinning" politics and slanting the news, but CNN has now come in a close second to Fox for biased political reporting.

Hillary is leading in Missouri and CNN refuses to give her credit for it. CNN's Super Tuesday reporting has been pro-Obama to the extent that their using broadcast time to influence voters in those Western states that are still voting.

I long for the days when Ted Turner owned CNN. Those were the good days.

irma   February 5th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

Independents and Republicans are helping Obama in OUR DEMOCRATIC primary.......ugggghhh!

Sara   February 5th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

I agree with Lila Rose. The ONLY issue of this campaign is the economy and healthcare and given all history, Hillary is our best bet.

Obama offers nothing but hot air.

lindyj   February 5th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

It will interesting to see what happens when Hillary is the underdog.

BOB   February 5th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

you would never know hillary has a lead in missouri with bill analysis...lol...

obama and romney....big lesson...money doesnt buy votes

hillary 08 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bring on the fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stan   February 5th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Hold on Obama. You need to make a big showing in MO.

Si se puede!!

Yes we can.

The Past vs the Future

Past vs Future

Si se puede!

Ray   February 5th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

Looks like Hillary has a big lead right now.

Lilarose   February 5th, 2008 9:39 pm ET

I am very interested in medical care and medical insurance, not poetry.

I am fully covered.

Are you?

There is only one candidate who has spent any time on these issues, and it is alot of time...

Hillary

Brandy, NJ   February 5th, 2008 9:37 pm ET

CNN – STOP ... sheesh ... you have given Obama non-stop positive media for the past several weeks. You have played a role in helping people determine who to vote for.

Why another post that fights for Obama? He is losing in MO ... at least the numbers show it ... 20,000 people more at the time this is posted are voting for Clinton. I don't call that really tight in a state that doesn't have an overwhelming population.

NORVEF   February 5th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

For when we have faced down impossible
odds; when we've been told that we're not ready, or that we shouldn't
try, or that we can't, generations of Americans have responded with a
simple creed that sums up the spirit of a people.

Yes we can.

It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the
destiny of a nation.

Yes we can.

It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail
toward freedom through the darkest of nights.

Yes we can.

It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores and
pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.

Yes we can.

It was the call of workers who organized; women who reached for the
ballot; a President who chose the moon as our new frontier; and a King who took us to the mountaintop and pointed the way to the Promised Land.

Yes we can to justice and equality. Yes we can to opportunity and
prosperity. Yes we can heal this nation. Yes we can repair this
world. Yes we can.

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