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This is an insult to even think of the possibility of a ticket with both Obama and Clinton. I am glad to see that Obama understands that this is an insult to even think that he would want to share a V.P. spot with Bill. Obama would actually be the 2nd V.P. because Bill would be the one running the white house (cheap way to get a 3rd Presidential seat) Hillary would actually be the V.P. and Obama would be shifted down the hall somewhere without a voice.....just ask Al Gore and look how it really hurt him when he tried to run as a presidential candidate. The Clintons disgusting character and horrible reputation along with Bush stealing the election was just too much drama! Why don't the Clintons go somewhere and sit the hell down....They have had their tme in the White house and as a use to be Clinton supporter, I really hate what I am seeing and what I feel the yreally represent! I was a blinded Clinton supporting....and I now realize that they are backstabbers to the Democratic party! The Clintons are ignorant, unethical with cheap dirty tricks and they have way too much baggage for Obama. They would love to tarnish him with their dirty laundry! They are going to the reason why the Democrats loose the National Election because of their desire to always take over by any means necessary!! They treat their political camp like trash...they fire them then rehire them if any of them dare to disagree with the Clintons...they treat their staff like dogs and the interesting thing is that their pathetic staff keeps running back to support them...What lack of comment sense in their supporters.

Where did you get the Clinton/Obama scenario? I don't see it in your post?

That does not sound like something Dean would say at all. Could you tell us your source?

Hell no. No deal.
Obama 08

The last deal Dean would make would be one that gives the nomination to Clinton. He knows if Clinton wins the presidency, his days are numbered. If he tries to broker a deal, make no mistake, he will be pulling for Obama.

When people talk about giving Hillary HER turn, and then letting the young Obama
get HIS in 2017, they're pandering to her perceived sense of entitlement.

My prediction: If Obama gets the nomination he will pick a woman as his
running mate (Kathleen Sibelius?) and then the dems will be unbeatable
in November.

Will Obama really beat McCain? What is the data to support this claim? Again, because of the spirit of Yes, We Can!.. Then this sound like Bush, when the economy is getting worse, he still claims that our economy is in good shape, just calm down be patient, we can do it! Will Obama be another one? Yes We Can? How? Where are the facts to support that he can change? Unite the Democrat first, how can he do it, when he keep spreading the HIillary Hatres sentiments in his campaign rallies? An uniter? or a braker?

Obama raised over $7 million after Super Tuesday almost overnight. Clinton had to loan her campaign $5 million just to get to Super Tuesday.

There will be no need for brokering.

I think Barack needs about 8 years of OJT, which can be obtained as VP in a Clinton administration, this would give the experience needed to become a great president.

Woman are still considered weak for higher office. It's just a perception of course. It has to do with them being all emotional especially during their monthlies. At a time when there's security issues do you want a man or a woman? That's what people especially men will be asking themselves in private. And so they will vote for McCain if Democrats have Hillary candidate. Then there's also how other countries' leaders and our enemies too see a woman as US president. Look what happened to Bhutto. Look at Condol Rice, do you think those arab leaders take her seriously? Perhaps if there wasn't security threats, a woman would be ok.

Women always think they can do everything themselves; they don't need us men. You want equal pay, which is fine. But then, why don't women carry heavy loads. Instead they call us men to do it for them and at work too. Why is our military not swarmed with women now that they can serve? When there's strange noises in the night, who ribs who to get up and check things out. When woman pop out a baby, they take time off which is understandable; but we continue working just like in the old hunting and gathering days. When there's a fire or you need police, it's a man that usually shows up. Woman are the nurturers in society and the sooner the NOW crowd understand this the happier they will be.

Yes you can make the claim that men start conflicts but then it's always been like that since old hunt' and gather' days. It all comes down to the people we choose as leaders. Are they intelligent enough to overcome those barbaric way? Will they fight when they could've used diplomacy? Do they use their brain rather than their might? And when they use their might, is it for a good cause to bring good result?

And there's also how you look. Do you look weak? I have found that people with dark brown or black hair usually show strength just by appearance alone. And if you're tall, dark haired, intelligent, talk well, caring and can inspire people, that's a leader!!! Add to it skin color dark skin even light brown or black then it's a bonus. Becase when you're dealing with rogue people especially in the middle east, you have to show strength. And you can't be shorter than them. Eye to Eye, man!! It's like chess game.

Amazing. Never in my life time did I ever anticipate the possibility of witnessing a national smack-down between a viable black candidate and a viable woman candidate for President. The GODS have a sick sense of humor:
Scenario:
Party Bosses attempt to broker a deal between Hillary and Obama.
Hillary and Obama delegates revolt on the convention floor and the Democratic Convention devolves into the world's greatest Pro-Wreslting Cage Fight on national TV.
McCain wins.

The super delegates will end up choosing the nominee, which most likely will be Clinton and her political machine. Just another slap in the face. Exactly why is my son in Iraq? , for some super delegate to tell him he has to stay. There is no way Clinton is going to bring them home. Just watch how she will change her tune when she is up against McCain. So you all can vote for her and continue with your "bumper sticker' support.

Hate to break it to you guys, but they vote the same way. Often. Obama actually doesn't vote at times when he doesn't want a public record of his opinion. That's his gimmick.
Whatever. Either one is fine.
Just no more (R)s.
And please, dear gawd, no McCain.

I'd take John Gotti over Obama.

NO DEAL!

And you can't just seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida. The only way to make this fair is to have a new election in those states. Obama and Edwards were not even on the ballot in Michigan so folks couldn't vote for them if they wanted to.

NO superdelegates to decide THIS ELECTION!

No Deal, Howie!

I think the Super Delegates need to throw their support behind whichever candidate wins the most votes after all the primaries/caucuses are over. That's the best "deal" out there, because democracy still wins. If it's not my guy, I'll suck it up and deal with it, but if they choose the person with fewer votes the "deal" would stink of a smoky back room.

What no one in this thread seem to be taking into consideration is that the "deal," if past brokered conventions in our history are an example, is that a third candidate would be the nominee, neither Obama or Clinton. Al Gore, anyone?

8 years of State legislative experience and 4 years of Senate experience is more than Hill has. This whole "inexperienced" meme is tired. She is not the right answer for the country. Nothing else matters. We don't need a two family parties, we need a visionary.

"I do agree that Obama is promising, but not now, when he is still green and lacking in political experience. I would vote for him in 4 or 8 years,but I would be really concerned if he gets in now and just sets himself up for failure."

well said Mike, the country can not afford to take a chance on an untested president. We need some one strong and tested to beat any republican. A Clinton/Obama ticket would win hands down and be best for the country. The more this fight lasts, the easier the republicans can win

Clinton and Obama '08
Experience and Change together

NO DEAL...NO DEAL .... NO DEAL................. CLINTON, EDWARDS AND OBAMA PROMISE THAT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA WOULD NOT COUNT.. I FEEL BAD, AFTER ALL I LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE STATES.. BUT THIS IS HOW YOU CAN TELL HOW THE CLINTONS PLAY... NOW THAT THEY SEE THEMSELVES IN TROUBLE... THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES.... HELLO PEOPLE, WAKE UP. THE CLINTONS WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME, WHEN THEY SEE THAT THINGS ARE NOT GOING THEIR WAY.... THIS ARE THE CLINTONS WE SHOULD TRUST.... SO THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING FOR STARTER EVERYTHING SHE IS SAYING IS ONLY A BROKEN PROMISE.. START WITH THAT. OH YEAH, SHE IS REALLY UPSET BECAUSE 'POOR US', OUR VOTE WON'T COUNT. SHE DID NOT MENTION THIS WHEN SHE WAS AHEAD IN SC. YES, HILLARY. NEXT TIME JUST CRY, IT MIGHT JUST WORK AGAIN.

WE WANT CHANGE ... REMEMBER THE VOTE FOR WAR. THAT MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR A BETTER EDUCATION, VETS, HEALTH CARE AND OUR ECONOMY WOULD NOT BE LIKE IT IS.
LISTEN, WITH THE CLINTONS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THAT IS AMMUNITION FOR THE REPUBLICANS ... THERE ARE LOTS OF SKELETONS STILL BEHIND... DO WE WANT TO WAIST OUR TIME AGAIN WHILE OUR COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IS IN NEED? SO THINK CAREFULLY WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

Broker a deal before the convention? Where was the DNC when both of these individuals chose to run. Sit one of them down and explain the problems their running could cause for the Party, prior to the campaign!!!!. This is the only way we, the Democrats, are going to give the White House to the Republicans. Why did the DNC allow this to be the year that we consider both the first African American and the first female candidate? If a deal isn't brokered prior to the Convention, the Party will not be able to unite for the General Election. Look at this ticker. How many times have posters stated that if their candidate isn't elected they will stay home or vote Republican. We shouldn't have both of these candidates running for the nomination in the same year. Both are extremely good candidates and would easily defeat any field of oppostion in any other election year.

Elect Obama and McCain will win the White House. Obama will never win the huge state that comes with huge electoral colleges especially California, Florida and Michigan.

Hillary Clinton has proven that she can carries big states and it was proven from the Super Tuesday's election.

If the democratic party wants to win the white house the ticket should be Clinton- Obama.

Califonia is Clinton country and if she will not be the Democratic nominee for the Presidency , Mc Cain will win California comes November.

No deals and no brokering. This country may not be a true democracy but we should at least give our citizens the right to decide who the next leader of the free world should be.

judging by the way Obama is raising money, I think he'll beat Hillary outright.

I don't mind hillary, but we don't need political dynasties, we don't need 28 years of Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton.

The reason many people like Obama is because he is not a Washington institution. The party is already split. The Clintons represent the DLC, an inside group that supported the war and NAFTA. They want to take the progressive movement out of democratic party.

The Reagan Revolution is falling apart as well. Strange times ahead.

A Clinton Presidency would mean HOLY DEADLOCK, because we know the Republicans will do everything in their power to sabotage her tenure. The Republicans will not be as willing to do business for the sake of the nation. There is no bad blood and history with Barrack, this allows the Republicans to be in a more bipartisan mood with a Barrack Presidency.

I'm sure that those who think a Clinton/Obama ticket is not a good idea are hard-core Obama supporters who can't stand having their candidate lose. They should be more concerned about the future of this country, and be satisfied that Obama gets a chance to be in the White House and possibly take over the reigns after Clinton steps down after 1 or 2 terms. This should give him more experience and would be less of a poster boy, and actually know how to do something instead of just talk.

The way I see it with how they running their campaigns, Clinton exudes this motherly figure that she will be tough, but hardworking and knows how to actually get things done. Barack is more of a pretty boy suitor, wooing the voters with promises and flowery words just to get their votes. When the courtship is over, guess who is going to be on the short end of the bargain?

I do agree that Obama is promising, but not now, when he is still green and lacking in political experience. I would vote for him in 4 or 8 years,but I would be really concerned if he gets in now and just sets himself up for failure.

A "brokered " deal leaves out the people that matter...the voters. For the Clinton's...yes politics as usual. For Obama...hypocrisy. No deal...let the people decide. If the nomination gets messy, so be it...isn't that part of the democratic process. A broker deal reminds me of what goes on in other countries...I thought we were different? If the Dem's can't unite after the convention...then we (I'm a Dem) deserve to lose...again. OBAMA or bust.

NO DEAL IT HILLDOG WINS I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN OBAMA/EDWARDS 08
THE YOUNG GUNS ON THE TICKETS

Well, Sen. Clinton's candidacy is not legitimate. It is in violation of the 22nd Amendment of the constitution. She has served by way of her husband Bill Clinton the two term limit. She has already enjoyed all the same power and influence that her husband did during his term as he has admitted her role in the White House. she benefited from the income and all aspect of presidential privilege by way of marriage. She has shared income (presidential) and cannot not receive the same privileges again since the two terms have been used for Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. Bill Clinton cannot legally have access to all privileges afforded the presidency–income will again be shared by commmunity property laws of marriage. We cannot allow politicians to run over our Constitution. Wake Up People!!

The DNC better hope it doesn't come to a "DEAL" situation, that might just be the beginning of a people's revolution in this country and the end of the democratic party.

Can the DNC be so stupid as to not realize AMERICANS have turned out in record numbers in the primaries and caucuses to date to show that THEY care about who is going to be leading this country in 2009? If a DEAL is even whispered about by any of the politicians who have taken part in creating the debacle our country is currently living through, I suggest a NEW political party–AMERICAN INDEPENDENTS!

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE DNC CUT A DEAL WITHOUT A CONSENSUS OF VOTER MAJORITY.

"Elect Obama and McCain wins in November"??

PUHLEEZE!!! Didn't anyone see Bill Bennett say on CNN last night that the Republicans are "praying" for Hillary to be the Democratic nominee?

A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain.

Obama is the one who will siphon the independents' votes and beat McCain. The "Hill" is too polarizing and has too much baggage!

GO OBAMA!!!

dan, paris:

Barry Oblahblah's appeal among independents and his so-called "bring Democrats and Republicans together" is a total mirage and a lot of campaign hot air that will float away once it's time for the general election.

Look at the states he won: the small (in delegate count) red states where only super-dedicated Dems reside (as one commentator put it when announcing he won Utah, which has 23 delegates, "Utah probably only has 23 Democrats in the whole state."). In a general election, he has no chance of winning any of those states, even in the Southern states with 100% of the eligible African American voters showing up in the South and voting for him, he'll never carry Alabama or Georgia (not saying Hillary will either, but people claiming he'll attract independents and moderates are dreaming; he's left of Hillary in his appeal a la MoveOn.org endorsement).

"Elect Obama and McCain wins in November"

Sorry, the dems lose more votes to McCain with Clinton as the nominee. You know, unite the right and independants?

Hillary's older and wiser. Obama's young and naive.

No deals. We can't afford to risk losing to the Republicans. People wake up. This is Hillary's time. We can't afford to be bullied and Obama will be bullied. He's not ready.

Go Hillary! Hillary for President!!

Fathers of Daughters – show your daughters they too can become president some day. Support Hillary for president

look at the economy!!doom & gloom is on the horizon..you need clinton to swing into action before the usa is owned by outside sources..I don't think Obama has twhat it takes to kick start the economy..The whole world is being effected by this.He'll make a good president next time round..

No deal.

What's there to workout? The delgates will say enough.

Looks like Obama has gotten the whole DNC on it's heel.

Wow – to think that Hillary Clinton *deserves* 'it' just because she's served more time in politics is idiotic – very immature. *That* is not what the American election process is about – it's not about the time served (or the age of the candidate), it's about who can get the job done the best – and frankly I don't think Clinton 'deserves the job anymore than Obama does.

Seriously, let's be adults – not children who they think they deserve something they may not.

America *needs* change – most of America would agree (Republican or Democrat) – Hillary does not represent change – she represents the old establishment.

Hillary (or any politician for that matter) deserves nothing short of what the American people want – they should decide who is the nominee, or at least participate in the process.

Obama – STAND your ground!

A deal? LOL. Neither of these canidates should or will want to give up thier aspirations because of Howard Dean's screwed up primary season.

No deal. Just allow the delegates to count for Michigan and Florida and the race will be decided. Hillary wins.
GO HILLARY!!!!

well it depends will it be Obama/Clinton
or Clinton/Obama
That is the only deal your talking about
that is serious gamesmanship of the highest order
just let the voters decide

Give Floridians their delegates, All dems. were on the ballot and Ophama even ran ads, which he was not suppose to do

No, no deals. She is old and weak. We are young and strong. We move in for the kill.

Seems quite obvious a Clinton/Obama ticket for the democratic party in November is a win/win for all their supporters and one of the best ways to effectively bring real change to our government. They then should enlist former candidate Edwards for a cabinet position.

Barack is too honorable. Let the DNC talk to David Duke to run with Hillary. He won't mind getting down and dirty.

NO DEALS with Barack.

it is obvious the democrats stand to loose alot if this race continues to august. however, i hope the super delegates will put their weight unanimously behind obama if they hope to solidify their grounds against the GOP, for four reasons.
- obama has a wider appeal among young voters insuring the partys future,
- polls show that the black vote is a block vote for him which would be critical come november, and his numbers are high among white voters,
- with Bloomberg considering a run, the democrats cant afford to loose independents, else we would see a repeat of election 2000.
-lastly obama presents a clea contrast to McCain, which will be a big plus come november.

inally i would like to add that an obama-clinton ticket will not just do because they present very contrasting ideals which would turn off so many. it is high time the party leaders take it upon themselves to get edwards to endorse obama, possibly pair them up. an Obama-Edwards ticket will floor the republicans and ensure the partys dominance for very long time.

I say if the DNC is not willing to let Obama pick his own VP (not Hillary) then he needs to run as an Independent!

Well I hope the nation wakes up and gives Clinton the votes to go ahead soon. Obama would force Democrats to vote for McCain. To many things that are unknown about Obama's past and if he will really stand up to threats to our nation.

Elect Obama and McCain wins in November.

You will turn off the youth vote if you force them to run as a ticket. He represents what she isn't. This would not be a match made in heaven.

The Clintons ruined Gore's chance, do not permit the Clinton to soil Obama.

NickNasc February 6, 2008 7:07 pm ET

Deal?? Deal?? We don't want no stinkin DEAL!!! What will they offer? Look Obama…shes OLD and you are so Young…let HER have it now and we will give you YOUR turn after her…C'mon be a Sport!!!

NO DEALS!!!!!

LOL! You missed your calling NickNasc.

NickNasc, you clearly don't understand politics. A deal with the DNC would be the best thing for the party and country. We would have a very difficult time winning the general if we have a brokered convention and remain divided too long. By mid-March, we need to start rallying around a nominee. The Republicans will have their nominee and will already be raising money for them and and building a base of national support. This is not the time for idealism. It makes perfect sense that Howard Dean would this. Grow up!

A deal? What the heck is that supposed to mean? I swear the DNC better not let super delegates chose the nominee – there will be a big mess. Better reschedule a Michigan and Florida primary for April right now!!!

I wouldn't mind Obama-Clinton. I think Hilldogg would make a good VP. Definitely not the other way around though.

NO DEAL! I cannot believe that there would be any contemplation of a deal! Hillary is the right woman for the job. My vote goes to her! If she is not the nominee then it may go nowhere or to the other side of the fence! There are no deals in this election!

Ya NickNasc, you are so right. We should ignore experience and ability for someone that can give an inspirational speech. Come on, put Obama in a debate and he reminds me of Bush talking, unless of course it's one of the talking points he has been (or has been prepared for him) hitting for months now. Obama is young, not really in age but in life experience. As sad as it is, while he may be inspirational we need to really accept the fact that he is NOT ready for this job. Maybe before 9-11 we could risk giving someone without experience a chance (you know, kind of like George W.), but we need someone that is ready and I personally would rather have someone there that IS ready. Chris

I have followed politics closely and have voted in every election since I became a citizen in 1989. Senator Clinton is the best person for President. Obama is very inspirational but I don't think he has the experience to take on any of the Republican candidates. If Obama is the nominee I will have to abstain or vote for the Republican. The Republican will pick apart his records as no one has scrutinized his records yet and in the end the Republican will use any tactics to keep the White House. It would be good for the Democratic Party and for Obama for him to accept the VP role to gain experience and becomes President in 8 years. We have so many challenging issues on hand to have a President who lacks experience – it takes time to go up the learning curve when you have to learn on the job and we don't have any time as the nation faces many important issues – sluggish economy, subprime mortgage, War in Iraq and falling American standing in the world.

Like we havent seen this one coming? In the end Hillary is going to get the nomination! A brokered convention would not be a good thing for the party, Dean is right!

The only deal Obama needs to make is no deal. Our moment is now. And we the people are not going to wait for Hillary and Howard to decide when Obama can have a turn. Our votes have decided we want real change from the status quo with Obama.

Have someone with experiance or else the Republicans will walk all over the Democrats.

The only deal acceptable to the majority of democrats who are solidly behind obama is a ticket with Obama as their nominee!

too bad–if there is a deal, I think it's the Clintons with their connections and backdoor deals that will win out. Politics as usual!

I think a "deal" would probably only serve to enrage everyone. Us Obama supporters would be foaming at the mouth if Clinton won this "deal" and Clinton supporters probably wouldn't be too thrilled by the reverse. Meanwhile, McCain will have locked up the nomination and probably silenced a lot of conservative attackers.

This is definitely a paradox in the making.

The "deal" will probably be that, since Obama is the "Jr." Senator, they will select Hillary for President and Obama for Vice-President. : )

Hillary for President
!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama for Vice-President

No deal, count the apportioned delegates from Michigan and Florida

Beginning to sound like Howard Dean is having second thoughts on letting this drag out. At this rate, it seems more and more likely a Clinton/Obama Obama/Clinton ticket. And guessing just by the Dem establishment, it would be Clinton/Obama with some promise that he (Obama) would be the next presidental nominee.

Now Obama people, don't say I am a hater, I am not. The fact of the matter is that there is no way they could give Hillary that same deal come 8 years from now and they know that. Also they really need to heal the divide between the party and Florida/Michigan. Obama really put off a lot of voters in those states (including ones that voted for him in Florida) by saying the votes did not matter.

While I would have rather seen Edwards, the fact is he does not want to be the number 2 again. There is a very short list on either side. This makes the most sense to me. Off the top of my head, the only other Democrat that could give a ticket the boost it needs for the midwest/upper south (and let us not lie about this, it is important) is Evan Bayh.

Nick, it's not about age ... its about who the right leader is for the the next four years.... the next four years may be the most critical years of the decade, we will need a president that can unite the country together to combat global warming, create a green economy, broker peace with the middle-east, etc.

Barack is the best leader for us because he accomplish all those things and bring republicans and independents to the table. Hillary would engender an 'us vs. you' mentality and not accomplish as much during her presidency as Obama would

You're right, no deal! We're in it to win it.

RMCD
Barack Obama Supporter

Oh please...

No deal. Hillary all the way!!!

I'm afraid I just don't understand this line of thinking... Why would a contended convention be a bad thing? I, like many in my age group (I'm 32), am sick of conventions that just serve as coronations.

If the Democrats want to win, they will NOT nominate Hillary Clinton... she will be defeated by the Republican nominee, whomever that might be. I think an Obama/McCain general election just might be the most exciting one in my lifetime!

SDG,
Matt

Call the party as soon as possible now, rather than wait until March! The candidate needs to start fund raising for the big race. The Republican can start concerntrating on fund raising to beat the Democrat. The Democrate should have let the winner takes all, rather than split on each state. What a dumb strategy. Wasting money. No wonder, the Republicans are smiling now.....

NickNasc -
Great logic. Let the lying, pandering Clinton have it now to lose to McCain. Great plan.

I'm a repub. and enthusiastically back Obama. I will have no part of Hillary. If she is brought forward, Barack will need to go independent. If that does not happen, I will be forced to go back to my old home, which I am not happy about.

Obama is not going to be anyone's VP. I think when Dean and the DNC gets that through their heads, they will understand that this puppy is going to the convention and there ain't nothing they can do about it.

OBAMA 08

Deal?? Deal?? We don't want no stinkin DEAL!!! What will they offer? Look Obama...shes OLD and you are so Young...let HER have it now and we will give you YOUR turn after her...C'mon be a Sport!!!

NO DEALS!!!!!

I think it would be very wise not to put Hillary on the same ticket, because of her past. If it is decided to be done it should be OBAMA-HILLARY.
I am still betting on Obama winning and picking his own Vice President and it not be Hilliary.

Dr. Mr. Dean.

Let me be clear. The Democrats have to signal a change in direction. I'm a registered Democrat but I now vote independent in the general election. I WILL vote for John McCain if Hilary is on the top of the ticket. And I know a lot of other Democrats and Independents who feel the same way.

I'm sorry the party leaders "decided" in advance who our candidate was going to be and I'm sorry that Obama had the audacity to challenge the status quo. But I need for my children to see that you don't have to be a member of a political dynasty to lead the country. The Clinton's had their shot. Let's move on.

Leave the choosing to the people; agreed a broker convention will serve the party well, but it will shortcut the selection process and impose a nominee on the people who will vote come November.

Let's not jump the gun yet – I think all democrats are sitting on the edge of their chairs today due to the delegate count – however the counting from all Tuesday states is not complete – only about 60 delegates counted for out of the over 400 in California. Looking at Clinton's statistical win in California alone – Clinton may take another 250 of these as yet counted delegates, Obama 150. If this happens the gap will deepen and Clinton's lead will grow to roughly 200 more delegates than Obama...that would be a real lead...It's too early to know anything yet, I just wish California, Missouri, and the other states still counting would get it in gear and give us REAL RESULTS!

What's wrong with a broker convention. It's part of the American Process. Don't worry about it Howard, The Obama Express is Running right theough HillBilly.

Obama'08

The solution is simple, put them together on the ticket.

Clinton-Obama is the ticket so Obama will lessen the opportunity to get swiftboated like his pal, John Kerry, in 2004 since he is the most liberal senator of 2007.

Who is Dean to decide what is best for Americans?

Let's not forget that Dean has absolutely no power.

Make it an Obama – Clinton deal. There is a big difference.