February 11, 2008
Posted: 08:52 AM ET
Obama won his second Grammy Sunday.
Obama won his second Grammy Sunday.

(CNN) — Barack Obama beat more than one Clinton Sunday.

The Illinois senator won over presidential rival Hillary Clinton in Maine’s Democratic caucuses. And he beat out her husband, former President Bill Clinton, in a slightly less snowy contest: the Grammy Awards.

Obama’s win in the spoken word album category for the audio version of his book “The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream” – his second Grammy — ties him with Bill Clinton, who’s also won two. Hillary Clinton has also taken top honors in that category, for “It Takes a Village.”

Bill Clinton had been considered for the audio version of his book “Giving: How Each of Us Can Change the World.” He wasn’t the only former Democratic president in the category: Jimmy Carter had also been nominated, for his book “Sunday Mornings in Plains: Bringing Peace to a Changing World.”

Obama and Hillary Clinton are neck-and-neck in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Barack Obama • Bill Clinton • Hillary Clinton


Mark Atlanta   February 11th, 2008 6:48 am ET

Gotta love him! Way to go OBAMA….Keep it up…….

Rick, Maryland   February 11th, 2008 6:54 am ET

I'm a Clinton fan but it would allmost be worth her loosing just to
see Obama sqirm when the republican's get a hold of him.
I'm blue collar and we support Ms. Clinton not one of the 200
grand plus a year crowd that support's him.
The fact that Michelle Obama say's she doesnt know if she
would support Hillery Clinton if she win's really get's my blood
preasure up.
Hell, if he win's I'll either vote for Ron Paul or not vote at all.
I'd never vote for a weasel like Obama.

ben   February 11th, 2008 6:55 am ET

Jimmy Carter is a good man, but was not a very good president
Bill Clinton was a good president, but not a very good man.
Barak Obama Is a very good man, and he will be a very good president.

Jim in the Boonies   February 11th, 2008 7:15 am ET

With all the promises made and not kept by the Democratic Congress, and now the cronyism glaringly obvious with the "super-delegate" sham, is there any wonder why folks are disillusioned with not only the Republican Party, but also the current entrenched Democratic Party ? Hillary is more of the same. Obama is not. He wil continue to beat the polls, and Hillary, and the Republican nominee. Now, if the next Congress will get rid of the likes of Pelosi and Reid too, we might actually get some change !

Roland Madore, Fort Collins, CO   February 11th, 2008 7:16 am ET

You know, Hillary supporters, you need to stop saying Obama supporters hate Hillary. We don't. Face it; both camps of supporters are just adamant about their candidate is all. For me, personally, if Hillary ends up being the nominee, I will vote for her over McCain, who I admire as well as a great American hero. I really do believe, however, Obama has the best chance of uniting this country and taking us forward to a brighter future. I say this as a retired teacher with 35 years of service to our nation's kids, as a parent, and as a grandparent. My greatest concern is for a better future for our kids and grandkids! I want to turn the page for them on the past and the Bush-Clinton dynasties. And by the way, my own mother is 89, and she told me she will cast her vote for Obama knowing that should she die soon after, her vote will have made a difference long after she's gone. No hate here at all intended.

Sixtus   February 11th, 2008 7:37 am ET

I Tip Obaman For The 2008 American Election

Sixtus
Nigeria

Susan   February 11th, 2008 7:40 am ET

Nice nasty headline, CNN. You are as divisive as the Obama handlers.

Maggie   February 11th, 2008 7:42 am ET

Mark my word, the same way the media is boosting Obama now against Clinton, it will be the same way if he wins the nomination for the democrats and runs against McCain. We will be hearing his lack of experience against a veteran in politics. As they always say, what goes around comes around. Mr. Obama enjoy your happy days in the media now because they are going to pounce on you. We all know Clinton is the better choice but the media wants to have some fun later on in the presidential elections so that's why they are hoping that Obama wins and then pull him right back down on his face. Don't be fooled by the media.

If anyone thinks that Obama brings change maybe they should check to see who is donating money to his campaign. Its the same big corporations who will have him in their pockets if he gets elected. The only difference between Bush and Obama is the color of the skin.

Anyway, Clinton fight on and you will be successful. I am behind you 100%. Stay strong and show them what a woman can do in this man's world.

RR   February 11th, 2008 7:44 am ET

More wins for Obama.

Hope Mrs. Michelle Obama will be the America's next President in 2016.

Marty, Orlando Fl   February 11th, 2008 7:53 am ET

Dear Mr. Obama,

Congratulations on all your success. I know you will be the President of this great nation. Best of luck.

Obama '08 '12

?????   February 11th, 2008 7:58 am ET

It's not about Hillary vs Obama

It's about Democrats vs Republicans

Your playing right into the hands of Rove and his ilk if you keep this anti-the-other-democrat stuff.

Ryan   February 11th, 2008 8:11 am ET

Good job Obama! The Bush/Clinton waste cycle is over!

Mary   February 11th, 2008 8:12 am ET

Is anyone out there listening to and investigating what Obama is saying, how he has voted and what "change" he is exactly for? Yesterday I heard part of a speech where he said he was for Universal health care and would "open up MY plan for those that are uninsured". That sounds like Sen. Clinton's plan. It is very nice of him to endorse her plan, but he should give her credit for it.

Lwee   February 11th, 2008 8:16 am ET

The way that the selection of cabdidates for the contest of president in America looks like a mockery from the countries outside U.S.A. Trying to be a champion of Democracy in this world as stated by your President is a lot of gabbage, until U.S.A. clears their own house first of those uncertainities in the system of selections. I am pretty sure there must be more foul plays in their system. e.g. states like Florida where the democrat does not allow the votes to be included or no delegate is presented. There are no fairness and it must be reminded they do have the right especially in the selection of the President. Note AlGore lost because of Florida. In addition Either the American esoecially the

grad abdullahi   February 11th, 2008 8:17 am ET

in my way thinking obama can unite the amercan people and will bring substantional acheivments towards the economic

Pia   February 11th, 2008 8:18 am ET

Once again this proves that Senator Obama is an exceptional human being and presidential candidate.

Kim, PA   February 11th, 2008 8:18 am ET

great…
he can win talking!

but can he lead us? give us specifics! give us specifics! and have courage to debate the specifics with Hillary!

Hillary 08′
the smarter choice for America

Kim   February 11th, 2008 8:33 am ET

I have been watching the 2 to 1 turn out that Clinton and Obama have raised with voters. I have also been listening to how Obama is reaching all, republicans, democrats and independent. My idea is to have a Obama run as an independent, Clinton as the liberal democrat and let us take our chances. We might as well make history all the way around. A woman, a black man and Mccain even splitting the vote I don't believe Mccain would win the whitehouse. McCain is a conservative, he is just an extremely conversative closet democrat.

Richard   February 11th, 2008 8:41 am ET

This Grammy Award illustrates just how forward and progressive the Barack Obama movement really is! Go Obama!

puddytat   February 11th, 2008 8:48 am ET

Don't worry Hillary ….The Reps are holding your votes for you . Nobody wants McCain … his campaign is an elitists dog and pony show. They can't wait for Huckabee drop out and are frothing for an opportunity to take his following . The only following he has are the cherry picked delegates and a few crooked rich friends

Annamica, OH   February 11th, 2008 8:48 am ET

In what way does winning a grammy show how progressive the Obama campaign is? I'm sorry but it is unclear how a politician winning a grammy award makes his campaign forward and/or progressive. And once again, this entertainment news does not belong in this section.

Patty   February 11th, 2008 8:54 am ET

Obama would need Hillary's supporters to win—and he won't get them! They will be voting for McCain

charley   February 11th, 2008 8:54 am ET

CNN is extremely supporting Obama not Clinton. I remind CNN, this is American President Election, not American Idol Competition. Who will bring American a wonderful future? Let's thinking about this.

Independent voter   February 11th, 2008 8:55 am ET

Bill and Hillary have both wone Grammys as well. I wouldn't call winning a grammy "progressive."

Kevin   February 11th, 2008 8:59 am ET

Can someone give an accurate count of delegates won by each candidate.

Sunday, February 10th shows Obama over Clinton by 10 or so delegates.

Now the count is back in Clinton's favor?

Also, can anyone explain to the average voter what is a "Super" delegate?
Thanks,

Kevin

Sam   February 11th, 2008 9:00 am ET

Obama as an independent will mean splitting democrats' votes. It must be Obama for President and sister Hillary as VICE.

homi   February 11th, 2008 9:01 am ET

If you had one criteria to choose a president. the criteria being "Who makes the best commander in chief of our armed forces in time of war?" Who would you choose?
McCain the war hero and all his background in leadership and military
Hillary Clinton with 8 years in white house next to her husband, 7 years in arms services committee, 12 years first lady of Arkansa with bunch of full star generals backing her or
Obama, with two years in Senate and no background in military? but he has a vision and can connect across the isle?
answer:
If you are Republican, McCain wins. If you are democrat, and for Obama, we are screwed, because he looses in General election against McCain for this one reason only. Specially McCain has a history of reaching across the isle himself, and democrats like him and also they don't have the backbone to take a big risk about national security demonstrated in previous elections and their votes in congress in regard to national security and war, so enough of them will go for McCain to get him elected. Mark my words

C   February 11th, 2008 9:04 am ET

this highlights CNN's pathetic attempts to again just boost up Obama for viewer ratings.

Obama is a farce… his movement is a self-obsessed egotistical maniac's movement. IF Clinton doesn't stop him, McCain will.

Anonymous   February 11th, 2008 9:09 am ET

talk about a great weekend…

Chris, Middletown, CT   February 11th, 2008 9:18 am ET

You'd think with all the talk from the Clinton campaign on helping the poor and those who cannot afford insurance….Bill would of done a bunch of speaking engagements for this "cause" - instead….they have enough income to "loan" the campaign 5 million…to make supporters feel sorry for poor poor Hillary….is someone buying this?

Also - I cannot understand how people say they are "tore" between Obama and Clinton….one (Obama) tells the truth and answers questions…one….doesn't…pretty easy decision

Jack from WV   February 11th, 2008 9:31 am ET

So a Grammy for Obama what does that mean politically? Nothing. Progressive hardly, just good writing makes for a good speaker and that’s about it. Obama does not have the experience to run the country. As a Senator he submits bills and votes on them no foreign experience here. Like HRC he has bounced around on many issues and I wish the media will start pinning them down, are you going to raise taxes and by how much, what are you going to do with the war in Iraq, we just can’t pull out tight away. Are you going to release those two border patrol agents in jail, what are you going to do with illegal immigrants. HRC and Obama have changed their minds on numerous subjects time for the truth.

AJ, IL   February 11th, 2008 9:32 am ET

If Hillary-supporters don't vote for Obama if he wins the nomination, then they are not Democrats. Hillary's strongest support comes from the base of the Democratic party. GW Bush has embraced McCain as the front-runner and will aid him if need be for election. So do these "Democratic" Hillary-supporters love "GW Bush-like" McCain more than Obama? If so, that means many of the Hillary supporters have learned nothing over the last 8 years.

Obama in '08!

B.   February 11th, 2008 9:35 am ET

I am still in shock. For a man that has done nothing for his state, nothing for us as a people and never owned a business he has proven that the Anthony Robbins courses work.
Crazy, in these times we need some that can actually do something and if Mr. Obama actually gets in office, I am afraid that America will find it to be one of the biggest mistakes in history.
I praise the fact that he has made so many aware of politics but am fearful of what may lie ahead if he were to be elected.
CNN as most media, obviously are great supporters of this mans one and only speech (that we have heard four times a day for a year)… Amazing to me.

Simon Peter   February 11th, 2008 9:40 am ET

He who moves mountains, starts by moving small stones.Obama started small but can be president of the United states.His intellectuall debate has proved to the world that he has the potential to lead the world's biggest ecomy .Thanks to CNN f or keeping us informed about the US polls.

Stamford   February 11th, 2008 9:41 am ET

First, this country has no real press, so that is a problem. While Senator Obama can liven up a crowd, he cannot beat McCain. He just doesn't have the qualifications to run this country, Let Hillary have the nominsation and have Obama really make a difference as Veep or in the cabinet. Otherwise, he will be torn to shreds by the Reps, the media and our enemies.

All I know is Hillary is tough cookie, like her or not. If she can withstand Bill and then come back to run for Senator and now for Prez, she's got something

I would rather her in my court, than anyone else. If not, then I have to go with McCain.

rob   February 11th, 2008 9:50 am ET

true, Obama would need Hillary's supporters to win.

TC   February 11th, 2008 9:50 am ET

I got a call from the Obama campaign yesterday. I hope they don't wish too hard.

Elsa   February 11th, 2008 9:55 am ET

Obama said he would be able to take Hillary's supporters if he is nominated but Hillary would not be able to have his supporters if she is nominated, now AJ you are talking about if Hillary's supporters don't support Obama then they are not Democrats?

Also I feel Obama is extremely arrogant and audacious to say so, how could he take everything for granted? His wife says that black people should vote for Obama, I don't know what you call this, but I definitely call this racism.

Besides, I don't know if anybody notices this, but Obama is not respectful for Hillary. During debates when she talks, he never look at her; but when he talks, she always look at him and shows due respect for a fellow democrat.

True Democrat   February 11th, 2008 10:02 am ET

I can't believe that Hillary Clinton's supporters are so BITTER about this whole thing! If you are a true democrat, then you would stand up for either Obama or Clinton!! I am an Obama supporter, but will stand up for the democrat that gets the nomination.

Don't get mad!! Let democracy happen!!!

IVT   February 11th, 2008 10:03 am ET

Stamford, I agree 100%. Obama has skeletons hidden in his closet. With Hillary, we know everything about her. No surprises. And she can definitely win over McCain. She is so much smarter and knows the issues and have actual plans to address the issues.

HP Boston   February 11th, 2008 10:06 am ET

I do believe McCain is the the better qualified candidate than OBAMA.
McCain has the experience and the background to be a competent president. Too bad he is so old, I may have to vote for him if I vote at all. It looks like the fix is in, the deck has been stacked . May as well give up and paint the house till this farce is over.

Christy   February 11th, 2008 10:07 am ET

the best for Hillary is to be a Obama vice P

Masumbuko   February 11th, 2008 10:23 am ET

CNN is Free and fair. Obama has stood to his words of hope from the beginning. The People have decided that Obama will be the democratic candidate. He is not changing his campaign managers as an act of desperation and panic. Let a brother have some justice. He is America's hope today and in the future. He is the only one who can unite America. Go Obama.

Jasper   February 11th, 2008 10:23 am ET

If you don't support Obama based on his message, then you need to support him based on the fact that he will beat McCain, and Hillary will lose to McCain.

Canadian   February 11th, 2008 10:32 am ET

yes i have noticed the cnn is presenting Obama a little big more postivily than Hillary Clinton….hmm let me see why that is…because its the truth…if someone is more honest, caring and truthful then that is how they will come accross…don't blame cnn just because you do not like obama….i have noticed that cnn has always tried to present all sides of the issues (unlike FOX), and i love cnn for that. Cnn is a station that presents news like it is and does not take sides (except the retard glenn beck they put on their headline news). but nobodys is perfect. The bottome line is that cnn and barack obama both have something in common, and that is that they both try to bring Americans together.

Amber   February 11th, 2008 10:32 am ET

There is no way McCain can beat Obama. Obama broadens the base while 50% or republicans can't stand McCain. Hillary would unite the republican base against her.

Obama may lack experiance but I'm pretty sure that he will choose a vice presidential running mate with plenty of foriegn policy experiance in order to balance the ticket.

Obama '08

hey allons,tn   February 11th, 2008 10:40 am ET

hey barack obama will be the best president the black people will every have .

DG   February 11th, 2008 10:41 am ET

Just like most of the comment sections in these articles, this one is littered with ignorant garbage. Obama can't win without Hillary's supporters? Try the opposite. Obama has skeletons in his closet, but we know everything about Hillary? Really, are you serious? Where the heck do they grow you people? Is anyone paying attention here? We don't need experience in the White House. We need a change in politics, a change in government, a change in leadership. Obama seems to be the only one who's willing to stick his neck out and fight for our country in Washington. With the others, it's just more of the same.

One last thing: can the women please stop taking everything about Hillary so personally. Obama is not disrespectful of Hillary. Did you not see him pull out her chair and give her hugs at the last debate? Pay attention folks. Stop acting like sheep and maybe we can fix this screwed up situation in Washington.

Giegie   February 11th, 2008 10:48 am ET

I hope the media gets what they want IF EVER Obama wins because America surely is not ready for a president who is not ready YET!!! The media hypes him soooo much it's disgusting!!! It's also the prevailing culture of INSTANT GRATIFICATION here! I don't think Obama has served his time in public service yet to be running the highest position in this country. It's all HYPE and I don't buy it!! He's not going to be a UNITER either bec as it is right now, everyone is using the RACE card especially his campaign bec they want the blacks to vote for him. And to say he's not a POLITICIAN's politician here. I don't think he will bring about change in American politics.I just don't think sooo!!!!! I hope the media quits this HYPE about him. If he wins the nomination, I will VOTE for McCain!!!!

RRH   February 11th, 2008 10:54 am ET

Well that's a nice way to put it. How bias CNN is. It would be as acceptable to say Obama's audio version was up for a Grammy as was President Clinton. Obama won, congratulations. Hillary won an Emmy for her book "It takes a village:" in spite of all the criticism levied at her.
But, you can't beat President Carter or Al Gore for their NOBEL PRIZE!
I guess it's a better read Obama beats two Clintons. CNN you are showing favouritism.

Richard   February 11th, 2008 10:55 am ET

It seems that most of the discussion is all about the Democrats versus Republicans…

Consider the following numbers which compare the results between the primarys held 2000 and 2008.
R's, 2000: 9,526,080 ~ R's, 2008: 9,531,712
D's, 2000: 7,731,127 ~ D's, 2008: 15,321,181

There are approximately 2-million less Republicans who participated in 2008. Whereas, there are almost 6-million more Democrats.

Were are the "new" Democrats, new Democrats? I think not.

Sure there are plent of "first-timers", but there are also independents and, yes, even Republicans who "joined" the ranks of Democrats. Is this joining permenant? Hardly so.

I am one of the Republicans who voted in a Democrat caucus. With the exception of McGovern in 1972 and Kerry in 2004, I have voted Republican since Barry Goldwater in 1964. I was an endorsed Republican candidate for state legislature in 1988.

I supported Senator Obama and I will vote for him if he is the Democrat's nominee.

I will not vote for Senator Clinton. My problem with the Clintons is their role in fostering the growth of global monopolies in the mid-to-late 1990's. Make of this what you may…

norma   February 11th, 2008 10:58 am ET

Oh my, the world has gone to _ _ _ _ in a handbasket. CNN has been fair? Well, if that is the case, then Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Colmes and Hannidy and all the others have as well. They dislike Hilary as much as CNN does.

This may be the last election I will be around to vote in. I was hoping I'd be able to enjoy a few more years of great expectations, but you're making a big mistake if you don't think McCain will take Obama down - and we'll have exactly what we've had for the past 8 years. I'm on my way out - but you'll have to live with your conscience because you're barking up the wrong tree.

Its no contest in my view - Hilary for me - McCain for you (errrrrrr, Obama for you, then McCain for real).

nccole treadway   February 11th, 2008 10:59 am ET

Sorry my computor fouled up: Now the Iraqi's know they must stand up and take over because Obama won't lend them any more of our loved ones to be killed on their behalf when they seat and do nothing to bring law and order to their own country. the movement has began in Iraq to govern their oun country. At the same time the movement has began to change our country is being heard all around the world. It won't only be the Iraqi's listening. It will be the world. Obama knows we need to get back to where al quada is comeing from quickly and stop their move. Al quada is listening, too. Reaching accross ailes isn't all that needs to be done—————-we need to reach around the world. Obama is saying "let's talk about our difference's, and find some good place for us both". Clinton and Mccain it's stupid to talk to countries who won't do like WE want them to. This country is not GOD. It's about GOD"S work, and there is a big difference folks. Get off the Media's case. They know the Clintons, and the fact they do what they want, and refuse to be fair to ALL the media. So the media refuse to play fair with them. If Clintons in things will be done behind closed doors, just like Mccain. Iraqi's will have no reason to advance their gov. like they have JUST began to do. The world will see America will be the same old ,same old in foreign policy———-and no one will talk to no one——-and we'll keep going to war. so you choose!

TJ WILLIAMS, Los Angeles, CA   February 11th, 2008 10:59 am ET

My Fellow OBAMA SUPPORTERS…
Please do not get ropped into trading insults with over zealous Clinton supporters. They are hurt and angry. They do not see this as an honest campaign for the Presidency. We must continue to ignore the naysayers because our work is not finished. Donate what you can , when you can. Look forward to Inauguration Day. Then look forward to rolling up your sleeves because that will only be the beginning. We have far to go. Our voices must continue to be the alarm over Washington D.C..

OBAMA '08
*Because we Americans are not afraid……of anything!

mike, Austin, Tx   February 11th, 2008 10:59 am ET

Carter is a good man but not a good president… lesson learnt ??
Bush is a good man but a worst president that any one can think of….. ! Did we learn a lesson again…. ?

Clinton was a great president buy some may think he is not a good man… Did we learn a lesson.. ??

Remember… we do not need a good man with a hope…… !
We need a great president who deals with reality…. Change in washington is a MYTH…. Come to reality people….. Elect someone to do some work.. not to preach about HOPE…. ! Hillary may not be a great person.. but she is hard working experienced and she can get things done.

the one   February 11th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Maggie, you obviously are misinformed and irrational. Obama got way more new donors than Hillary (even after she played the desperate card after Super Tuesday). As for Obama's experience, or allegedly lack thereof, i'd like to reming you that Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and JFK were younger than him when they ran for their respective office. As I always say, if he can give the ClintonS a run for their money, he is seasoned enough.
Anyways, most of Hillary's experience is exactly what the country is trying to move away from. Maybe, she could serve as his adviser, but i'm sure her ego will get in the way of that.

I find it far fetched when people try to argue that CNN is biased towards OBAMA. Come on!!! most of their political commentators are one way or another linked to the Clinton era (David Gergen…). If slowly but surely, you can feel that they're swinging his way, this is because is campaign is effective. This is pure democracy!

OBAMA/EDWARDS 08

Jenny   February 11th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Clinton supporters: You do realize that Barack Obama has had more time in elected office than Hillary, right? She has had more time at the national level, but he has had more time in elected office.

Davido   February 11th, 2008 11:00 am ET

It is time….time for change. Time for all of us to stand behind a man with the vision to completely transform this nation and yes, this world. Unity is not just a slogan anymore, we have the power to make it happen. We can conquer all our problems by following his message of hope and resilience. There is only one choice, now and in November. Obama.

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   February 11th, 2008 11:00 am ET

I don't think that anybody who was a state senator a mere 3 years ago should be president of the USA!!!!!

If Hillary is not in the ticket in some way, shape or form, this voter is staying home in November. I will not vote for a man who may give good speeches but is short on substance.

Dias   February 11th, 2008 11:11 am ET

It is so obvious that Senator OBAMA is the way of the future.
The american people are to be congratulated for making a stand to change completely the way politics are done in Washington D.C. and accept this man that has been saying the same thing from the very beggining of the campaign process. Senator Obama is a true leader of all the people.
Ignorant people do not know that they do not know so we can not be listening to them. This experience mambo jumbo is what has been running politics in America for as long as I can remember. WE SERIOUS NEED A CHANGE OF THE MIND SET IN WASHINGTON.

OBAMA 08

Jim   February 11th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Why do all the Clinton supporters ask for specifics? Do they not pay attention to Obama's speeches? Are they just too lazy to go look up all of the SPECIFIC policies Sen. Obama has laid out when it comes to health care, the war in Iraq, helping Americans with disabilities?

He's talked about more pay for teachers, about rolling back No Child Left Behind. He's talked about empowering Americans with disabilities by providing them economic subsidies for going to college. He wants to give them more and higher quality training in high school and below. He wants to get our troops out of Iraq, but wisely he won't give a timeline because he wants to be careful and not careless with it. Personally, Sen. Clinton saying the troops will be out in 60 days is VERY dangerous and if not true, is an immediate slap in the face to the voting public.

Sen. Obama has said he would negotiate with any and ALL foreign leaders and not dismiss and ignore them, which internationally currently leads to the idea of U.S. arrogance. Oh, and in terms of health care, he has a complex plan that WILL lower costs for all Americans and give them the incentive to purchase health insurance. Thus making it AVAILABLE to everyone. He has also stated he will not mandate it, because if it's affordable and you still don't want it, he doesn;'t want to start taking portions of your salary, which would happen under Sen. Clinton's plan. His plan calls for the Congressional health plan to become available to all Americans.

Do you Clinton supporters want Sen. Obama to spend 2 hours at a rally detailing his health care plans? That would actually be quite boring. Or as an educated voter why wouldn't you rather look them up yourself? Or, as it seems you do now, you could just take what others are telling you as fact and say he has no specific plans for this country. It's your choice.

Max Power, Springfeild   February 11th, 2008 11:20 am ET

Don't be an idiot Bea! President Washington wasn't ever a state senator and he's on the dollar bill.

NC Independent   February 11th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Can you smell that? Yep, the sweet smell of desperation…..supporters blaming the media, the firing of a campaign manger, even some ridiculous accusation of Obama having "skeletons"…..yep, that's desperation.

Obama and supporters…..let's stay above this. Many people will always be scared of change. They will never back a movement because they would rather stand still. There has never been anything false about hope….and right now, something amazing is happening.

Optimism, hope, belief are winning out over fear of change and the status-quo

This is American politics, right?

OBAMA 08

Awaiting Moderation   February 11th, 2008 11:21 am ET

I and several other readers made comments on this Ticker entry before 6:00 this morning; but those comments are no longer visible or accessible because the web page handlers for some reason changed the URL and the article is no longer there in its original form. Is there any way to resurrect comments that disappeared in this way and add them to the ongoing thread? It is very frustrating to be closed out of the debate like this.

Bob   February 11th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Where are the clouds? The comments today confirm the widely held thought about the CNN bias. Does any Republican (other than myself) read CNN reader comments?

Kevin   February 11th, 2008 11:21 am ET

I'm writing from the UK and watch CNN all the time. It seems to me that even when Hillary Clinton wins states or delegates your analysts seem to put her down and keep hyping Obama even though Clinton is still ahead in the delegate stakes.

KW   February 11th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Obama Needs To Learn To Crawl Before He Walks.

He would make a good Vice President but I would not be comfortable with him being President yet. I mean honestly, Where did he come from? How many people have even heard of him before this year? Sure, he seems like a good man and he is a good speaker but a Good speaker does not guarantee a good president. Judge a man by what he does…not by what he says.
He is the unknown, the two birds in the bush. At least with Clinton we know what we have…EXPERIENCE.

This Democratic election has become nothing more than a Popularity Contest fueled by nothing more than Race, Gender and Age Biases.

Beto   February 11th, 2008 11:22 am ET

My only concern with Obama is that after millions of words, millions of dollars, and so forth, I will do not know his official record in the Illnois Legislature and US Senate. Once I do, I may vote for him or perhaps for Hilliary.

Does anyone know?

Darth Vadik, CA   February 11th, 2008 11:24 am ET

If this guy can whoop the Clintons, the Republicans are in real trouble.

Obama is a buzsaw.

Go Obama

Dan   February 11th, 2008 11:25 am ET

God, you Hillary supporters are so bitter! While I believe Obama to be the superior candidate, I would gladly throw my support behind Hillary if she wins the nomination. Have we learned nothing from the past 7 years. McCain is voting for another 4 years of Bush. The man has been in lockstep with Bush in so many areas.

You people that will vote for McCain if Hillary loses deserve everything you get. This would include having your phones tapped and shuttling your sorry a$$ down to Guantanamo.

Di   February 11th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Republicans are putting him in…because the Republican know they can beat Obama!!!

Beto   February 11th, 2008 11:26 am ET

My concern is that people are so desperate for change that they would vote for the candidate that least reminds them of Washington - in this case Obama. Speedy Gonzales would win if Obama was not running.

Annamica, OH   February 11th, 2008 11:27 am ET

In response to Jim, we want substance, not motivating speechs that belong to a Church pulpit or a High School Stadium before the homecoming game. Details are necessary and any educated person realizes that. It's like me running for president and saying, "Oh, I will give ___ million free healthcare." But um, how does one go about doing that? He is just making statements people want to hear, to get them pepped up, but we all know its the actual work and planning that matters.

Also, for those who don't vote for Obama in November if he is the nominee, would you honestly want a war-monger who is going to put the US even more backward than Bush has done? 4 years ago I didn't think that was possible, but with McCain's speeches about 100 years + in Iraq, threats against Iran, and claiming nothing is wrong with economy is pure madness. I'd so much rather have Obama as president, than take the risks involved with McCain.

Clinton/Obama 08

Dylan the California Liberal   February 11th, 2008 11:31 am ET

Geez… the Hillary bakcers who post on CNN sometimes sound like a bunch of bitter children. The "CNN is biased towards Obama!" arguments are tired and, frankly, dumb. They sound like Republicans lashing out against "liberal media bias."

The "no substance; no specifics" comments are pretty maddening as well. Apparently these people haven't watched a debate, gone to his website, read his book, or basically done any research on him whatsoever.

Understand that Obama has an appeal that transcends race and politics. He motivates, he unites, he makes people want to be better Americans - as opposed to being ashamed Americans. That is why he has garnered such a huge following among Democrats, Independents and even many Republicans, and now seems to have the upper hand. Hillary does not have this appeal. While her divisiveness is only partly her own fault, it will nonetheless tear this party and, in turn, this country apart - again.

Obama is criticized time and again by the Hillary campaign and her supporters for being a "newcomer." I think they are finally beginning to realize that that is EXACTLY what this country wants right now.

Dee   February 11th, 2008 11:33 am ET

Bea, I gues you will have to stay home and not vote

Obama "08

tima   February 11th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Wow, I wish I had a weekend like Obama had this weekend. He sweeps the state voting and the Virgin Islands and wins a Grammy!

Peter K   February 11th, 2008 11:35 am ET

What's with the Obama supporters? Their constant vicious attacks on Hillary demonstrate that they are obnoxious and no sportsmanship. I can't believe they claim that the Obama supporters are more educated. I suppose there must be something missing in our educational system. Please be civil and show some respect to each other. The candidates are sacrificing their time and efforts to run for the highest position in this country and in their own belief that they are going to bring this country forward. Each of the candidates deserve our respect, not insulting words or attacks. We are all Americans and Obama's speech keeps talking about unity and I have serious doubt if he has the ability to make it happen.

Nancy   February 11th, 2008 11:37 am ET

Tell me, Annamica, how will Hillary subsidize free healthcare for all? Obama says he will lower healthcare costs for all - a more formidable goal. Let's start there!
I am not adamantly against Hillary, however, I don't believe free healthcare can yet be achieved BUT I do believe, we can change the healthcare system and make it affordable. I'm self-employed - believe me - I want to change the healthcare system.
Re: McCain - you are right on saying he will be another Bush. I continue to be amazed at those who still support our mission in Iraq. When McCain talks about victory I want to know, "What the heck does that look like?"

Jay   February 11th, 2008 11:37 am ET

I've been reading these boards for a while now and Jim's point is a question I've always wondered. During debates and speeches, the candidates have maybe 45 seconds to make points. That isn't enough time to properly detail any candidate's plans or stances on anything. At this point, every single plan Obama has been questioned about has been detailed and published. His message of hope isn't a shady motivational speech - it's a rallying cry to the voters, and it's been working.

You can read what every candidate stands for, what they have done and what they say they will do. None of this is secret. Claiming Obama only makes speeches and doesn't have any solid plans is based on your own decision to not educate yourselves about the candidates.

Additionally, is it so bad having a president that can inspire the people of the nation? Is it a bad thing that he comes off as a good guy? You're not just electing a set of policies or a set of opinions on wedge issues. You're electing a person.

A person that will have to walk into a room with other leaders and leave with positive results. A person that has to convince partisan leaders to vote against their own self-interests on occasion for the good of the entire nation. The world doesn't hate George Bush just because of his policies. The world hates him because of his arrogance, his stubbornness and his ability to disregard the needs of those that oppose him. When you're the leader of a nation, personality counts too.

Never little o   February 11th, 2008 11:39 am ET

I won’t try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I’m not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality.

Joe   February 11th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Bill and Hillary are the past. Obama is the future. Can you imagine looking at Hillary in Pant suits and Bill waving that old crooked finger for the next eight years.

Peter K   February 11th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Nancy, Clinton has already explained how she will fund her health care plan during her last debate. I notice that a lot of Obama's supporters (especially the youth voters) don't know all the facts and that really saddens me. I am concerned the future of our country. Please vote for Hillary!!

Michael   February 11th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Does Obama support our troops. He has no problem letting everyone know he was not for the war from the very beginning but I have not heard much if he supports the men and women who are fighting in Iraq.
Look there are so many who support the war and many who disapprove of it. The men and women that are in our military need a President that supports them not some clown that is just going to keep reminding us that he was not for the war. Enough we went to war and lost so many lives. Support the men and women don't focus on the past Obama.

JH   February 11th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Manuel, yes you got it.
I never fell for empty words, I can tell who is genuine and who is not.
Obama will say what he thinks people want to hear, not what he really thinks, wants to do. He just wants to be a president no matter what. It is very egoistic approach on his side. All what he promises will be gone if he will be elected -what then his followers will do?
The change is not in words - as he does all the time. It is in acts. People= some people will always make nasty comments no matter what person they choose to not to like does.
So, let's do not listen to them Their words do not mean anything.
Hillary!

Sam, AZ   February 11th, 2008 11:48 am ET

I'm independent and I'll vote for Obama over McCain but will vote for McCain over Billary. Go Obama!

HP Boston   February 11th, 2008 11:48 am ET

When OBAMA talks about CHANGE I want to know, "What the heck does that look like?"

Jon   February 11th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Bea, so you are saying if Barack's VP were say one of the following …

Janet Napolitano
Kathleen Sebelius.
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Evan Bayh
Ted Strickland
Wesley Clark

you would not vote?

Is it the Hillary-way or the highway?

Renee Las Vegas NV   February 11th, 2008 11:50 am ET

I'm an educated voter !!!! I'm for Obama, but if Hillary wins I will support her without a doubt!!!!!!!!!!
Why????????? Because I'm a Democrat !!!!!!!!!!!!!'
"If you Don't Stand for Something You'll Fall For Anything!!!!!!!!!"

Jim   February 11th, 2008 11:50 am ET

Obama has been beating two Clintons for weeks now… and he will continue too. I have nothing against Bill or Hillary, but Obama is the type of inspiring leader this country needs. When Bill was in office, this country became more divided then ever before. If Hillary wins why would anyone think it would get better? Ans for all of these people who say Obama hasn;t done anything, check your facts. He had many accomplishments in the Illinois legislature. And as far as experience goes, he has more time serving as an elected official then Hillary (first lady is not an elected postion).

Rich - Illinois   February 11th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Always a fine speech-maker and a good man…exactly what we were told about Bush…no more guessing! Sen. Obama can gather all the Potomic states he wants…here come Ohio and Texas. Then again, we may be witnessing again the Democratic Party snatching victory from the jaws of defeat…

KW   February 11th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

I can't help wondering the same thing that poster DI made above because I don't think America is ready for a woman or a black and they will do whatever to keep things the way it always has been. I don't care what the polls say….I think Clinton is more feared as having the ability to change history so their strategy is to vote for Obama knowing that he will have even less chance of beating McCain.

Awaiting Moderation   February 11th, 2008 12:56 pm ET

"Never little o" is pretty clearly a reader of NYT online, since their comment (above) is clearly cut and pasted out of Paul Krugman's column. It's the one that contains the statement, "most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody."

That said, I recommend anyone interested in the Democratic primary fight go to the Times website and read that Krugman column. As usual, he has some good and thoughtful remarks (beginning with the point that either Democratic candidate would be a very good choice).

Please, let's tone down the bitterness and smear tactics! My own primary concern is foreign policy and America's standing in the world, and on that score I think Hillary would make a good candidate because she has done hard work learning the ropes and building contacts during her years in the Senate. On the other hand, the election of a President Obama would be the clearest way to signal to the rest of the world that we have put the Bush years behind us.

If Obama is the Dem. candidate, I have my own idea about who would be a good running mate, to give the ticket the foreign-policy "gravitas" it will need… but I'll keep my mouth shut on that, for now.

Eric - Chicago, IL   February 11th, 2008 12:57 pm ET

KW, Have you even been watching the polls lately? They may not be the "be all, end all" authority on who will vote for who, but I'd value a scientific poll percentage over the suspicions of some schmuck on the internet. Obama clearly wins over mccain, where Clinton does not.

Also, you are a racist… I'm white, and even I can see that about you.

Mary   February 11th, 2008 1:08 pm ET

Quote Margaret Thatcher

"In politics if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman."

GO HILLARY '08

Perry   February 11th, 2008 1:22 pm ET

Hillary is always taking about her experience and what she can do for the economy. Hillary cannot even run her own campaign. She has a husband that's out of control and her campaign funding is down and her staff members are being fired. This is the person that we want to run the White House???This is the most experienced???????? The same person that voted for the war. What are we doing people. I am ready for Obama!!!!He makes smart decision day ONE!

RuthieM   February 11th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Now that's what I call Barack 'N Roll!!

sam   February 11th, 2008 1:25 pm ET

ABC = Anything But Clinton. She belongs to history and the future is Obama!

Yes we can!!!
sam

Kathryn Irby - Metairie, LA   February 11th, 2008 1:27 pm ET

Barack Obama possesses the stuff of greatness. He is a true intellectual; there is no doubt about that! He has a tremendous amount of promise within the political arena awaiting his future!!!

Kathryn Irby
Metairie, LA

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   February 11th, 2008 1:28 pm ET

I seem to have garnered a lot of responses to my post. Well, I stand by what I said earlier. I don't think that a man who was in the state senate just 3 years ago is fit to be president. I wouldn't have minded voting for him if he had paid his dues and had gravitas, but not now.

I may be in the minority, but Obama does not inspire me. I see a man who has risen by his sheer charisma and ability as a speaker. To me he is more fluff than substance and I will not vote for him if he's at the top of the ticket, regardless of who he picks as VP (unless it's Hillary).

smart grrl in ls mo   February 11th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

OBAMA is more interested in looking at pictures of HIMSELF

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