February 13th, 2008
09:30 PM ET
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Carville: Do or die for Clinton in Texas and Ohio

James Carville is supporting Hillary Clinton's White House bid.
James Carville is supporting Hillary Clinton's White House bid.

(CNN) - He hinted at a similar sentiment earlier this week on CNN, but James Carville – a supporter of Hillary Clinton’s White House run - was decidedly more blunt Wednesday on the impact a loss in Texas or Ohio would have on her presidential bid.

"Make no mistake," Bill Clinton's former chief strategist told the Orlando Sentinel. "If she loses either Texas or Ohio, this thing is done."

The Clinton campaign has increasingly placed importance on those two March 4 primaries following eight straight losses for the New York Democrat since Super Tuesday. On Tuesday night, she was swept in the so called Potomac primary, losing to Obama in Virginia, Maryland, and the District of Columbia.

In a conference call with reporters earlier Wednesday, Clinton campaign aides noted 60 percent of the remaining delegates are in Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania - all states where polls show the New York senator is leading Obama. But delegates in those states will not be awarded on a winner-take-all basis, and Clinton staffers said Wednesday that their expectation was that the two candidates would be within 25 delegates of each other following the March 4 contests.

Obama campaign aides said Wednesday they believe it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama in the delegate count under the current guidelines, even if she wins all three contests.

Speaking on CNN's The Situation Room earlier this week, Carville struck a similar note.

"The truth is that Sen. Clinton has to win Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania," he said. "If she wins those three, she's probably the nominee. If she loses one of those three, then Sen. Obama is probably going to be the nominee. That's a fact."

"We have a lot of debates left to go," Carville continued. "This has been a very close contest. Democrats want to hear from both of them. I've seen the Clintons counted out before. I would be very reluctant to count the Clintons out."

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

soundoff (516 Responses)
  1. mike from ma

    If Hillary loses Vote John McCain we need someone with experience to lead this country!!! Obama needs more experience!!! Talk and vision are great but we have huge problems we need someone who has demonstrated they can back it up ! McCain has proven he can reach across the isle and get things done!! Obama voted present 180 times in the state senate if he couldnt make a decision then or was playing politics whats going to happen when faced with the big decisions the next president has to make? I'm a life long democrat and have never voted republican but if Hillary isn't the nominee I will vote McCain!! God Bless America!!!

    February 13, 2008 08:41 pm at 8:41 pm |
  2. Coby

    Obama haters! Whew! Hate to see positivity! Rather see deception!
    Thats why we can never find a good president because you people don't know positive when you see it. If you do see it, you run away from it. One word to explain it. IDIOTS. Also, stop being mad at CNN for what seems to be "biased opinions" they see positivity also. The only reason they make Hillary look so bad when she looses is because WAS the one who was supposed to be democratic candidate with ease. Until HOPE arrived. If John McCain would start loosing dramatically to Huckabee like Hillary has been doing. They would say McCain ONLY had 35%. Hillary supporters havent learned there lesson dealing with the Clintons.

    February 13, 2008 08:41 pm at 8:41 pm |
  3. Sharon

    America is ready for a woman president. And is also ready for a black president.

    One or the other will be disappointed... but what ever way it goes, I hope either one who doesn't make it, will support the other. And that will only happen if they don't destroy each other trying to get there.

    Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania... may the best man or woman win.

    February 13, 2008 08:42 pm at 8:42 pm |
  4. Terence

    I would like to add this in regards to superdelegates, if the final decision is made by the superdelegates rather than the popular vote. I will vote republican and encourage all that I know to do the same as the Democratic party, demonstrates, a lack of loyalty to the party.

    February 13, 2008 08:43 pm at 8:43 pm |
  5. enough already

    how misinformed to say Hillary doesnt care about New Orleans or Louisianna becuase she barely campaigned there. She was there when it counted, right after Katrina. Other candidates were only htere recently to beg for votes, but she at least had been there before the waters receeded.

    she even tried to create a commission in 2005 to investigate what happened and oversee efforts to move forward...of course the republicans who were in the majority at the time shot it down....but Hillary, for years now has cared about and worked for New Orleans! How short sighted to say she has done nothing because she didn't campaign there and beg for votes

    February 13, 2008 08:43 pm at 8:43 pm |
  6. BLACK REPUBLICAN

    IT NEVER FAILS!!!!!! EVERY 8 YRS MY PARTY ROLLS OUT THE NEXT IN LINE CANDIDATE. MCCAIN IS TO OLD. IT MAKES IT VERY HARD BEING A LOYAL BLACK REPUBLICAN REAGAN KNIGHT BORN 1970 FROM IL. HOW DO I MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR MY PARTY? WHEN IM NOT EVEN MOTIVATED. HOW ABOUT I VOTE FOR BARACK COME NOVEMBER. SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY THING TO DO. TEACH MY PARTY A LESSON. AND EXPAND THE BASE. PLEASE!!!!!!!!

    February 13, 2008 08:46 pm at 8:46 pm |
  7. MR STEELE

    THE RACE IS OVER HILLARY HAS TO WIN THE BIG 3 BY A LANDSLIDE AND SHE WONT BECAUSE SHE WILL NEED A BIG LEAD TO WIN SHE WILL WIN TEXAS AND THAT IS IT SHE WANTS TO PULL OUT DIRT ON BARACK THERE IS NOTHING THERE TO HURT HIM BESIDES PEOPLE HAVE THERE MINDS MADE UP AND BEFORE SHE THROWS DIRT SHE SHOULD CHECK HER AND BILLS CLOSET FIRST TRUST ME THE RACE IS OVER BARACK WILL WIN

    February 13, 2008 08:46 pm at 8:46 pm |
  8. Sandra

    Obama wants to set aside TWENTY BILLION DOLLARS to help people who bought homes that were more expensive than what they could afford.
    That says it all.
    Who in their right mind would vote for a candidate who would say something like this.
    This is yet another indication that he is not capable of running this country.
    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

    February 13, 2008 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  9. Sal

    Obama wins ohio, Texas

    Hillary Drops out of race

    Obama // Bidden
    Obama // Richardson

    February 13, 2008 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  10. Lamont

    please vote for Hillary. If you want change, then you need someone with experience who can deliver that change. That's Hillary. Obama is empty rhetoric. He is like Bush, but African-American and on the extreme left. He has no experience, plans, policy and has no idea what he is talking about. The media gushes at him because they are sexist and have a difficult time seeing a female commander in chief. The media also gives him a free ride because he is black so they don't want to appear racist by criticizing him or questioning him. In the end the Republicans will eat him alive because they don't care to have an Affirmative Action President. I wanted a black presidnet more than anyone. But don't vote for somone because they are black or because a different name is gonna be on the presidential seal and they talk a good game. Vote for someone with experience that is necessary to deliver real changes to Washington and to combat the problems we have in America after the 8 years of the Bush nightmare. In these times, we need a president who can really lead on day one. Obama can't do that period. I don't care what big headed Ted Kennedy says. Kennedy is only using Obama to manipulate him and push his agenda. So don't believe any of this JFK hoopla.
    Seriously, I wish Colin Powell was running because I would vote for him in a heart beat. The only decent candidates were Clinton, Edwards, Biden and McCain. And since Edwards and Biden are out. Clinton is the number 1 choice. McCain is next. Obama is dead last and slightly only better than Bush.

    February 13, 2008 08:47 pm at 8:47 pm |
  11. Sherri

    Watch our girl stand tough and tall till the end, till she wins the job where Obama seems only to want the trophy! Hard work for no more than 18 months and running for President is the audacity of his ego! I want a president who has YEARS

    February 13, 2008 08:50 pm at 8:50 pm |
  12. deborah

    Go Hillary!

    February 13, 2008 08:50 pm at 8:50 pm |
  13. E. Bryant

    omg...I am watching Campbell Brown on the West Coast and she showed a snipet of Hillary Clinton's speech in San Antonio, Texas...and I was just shocked at what I heard Hillary say...Of all her speeches I've always heard her say every American should have Universal health care..but tonight I heard her use a phrase right from Obama speech in regards to health care...Hillary actually said "make healthcare affordable"...my question is...What or who is Hillary? It seems like her campaign direction is to immulate or steal the words of Obama...the same words she like to poke fun at...If Hillary can't come up with her own speeches, why should we believe she would be ready on day one when she can't even come up with her own thoughts...Something to make you say hmmm...

    February 13, 2008 08:51 pm at 8:51 pm |
  14. maria

    I am reading alot of comments from Clinton supporters here. All of you must do one thing to get the vote out for Hillary in PA, Wisconsin, Texas, and Ohio. Think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All of us should email CNN directly that they are bias in not reporting an american hero like John Glenn supporting Hillary. Do it.

    Let's tell the media they can't pick our next president NOW.

    I always wanted to be president, and I had hoped America would have a female president before I die BUT THE SEXISM IS out of control towards Hillary and her daughter.

    February 13, 2008 08:51 pm at 8:51 pm |
  15. Grace

    Im so glad that I had a change of heart like so many more have. I started supporting Hillary but I had a change of heart. Im going to stand by the man that is going to bea McCain and that is Borack Obama. Im happy that we as Americans first and Democrats second can finally come together as a party and support Borack Obama. Hillary has shown in the past two weeks that she is just full of drama. She started with 100 million and now she had to let her campaing 5 million. Hillary is refusing to realese her tax records. McC

    February 13, 2008 08:51 pm at 8:51 pm |
  16. Jenny

    Only Obama can beat Mcain. I vote the party and I want the Rebuplicans out by whoever as long as they are a Democrat. Clinton can not beat Mcain that is why Mcain is now going after Obama. He wants Clinton to win. John is using Hillary's word to help her beat Barack because at the end of it all he will be the next President, keeping the Republicans in control of ruining the country and the planet We need a Democratic President, it doesn't matter who!!!!!

    February 13, 2008 08:52 pm at 8:52 pm |
  17. D

    Fired Up and Ready to Go... for Change
    Will someone tell me how Senator Clinton can leave those who supported her endlessly in the last three states, get on a plane and never say Thank You. Who would want to be burned again by her arrogrance and rudeness. if she was the party's nomnation in those states would they support her again and work dilgently for her?
    Don't you think it is strange she wants a debate with Obama in a state where she is not even campaigning?
    Politics are strange. That's a roll of the dice to pick certain states that are recognized by the DNC and then want the two that aren't. Hillary, you are not representing well at this time. She is flip flopping to seeking the office. She has states she didn't mind losing . What will makesOhio, Texas and Pa. believe her words are nothing but just narcisstic thinking rather than true heart felt caring for the American citizens- all American citizens?

    February 13, 2008 08:52 pm at 8:52 pm |
  18. Rob

    Hilary Clinton is a liar and a fake...Obama is the truth and soon to be the NEW President of the United States of America...as soon as he does away with Clinton and believe me...after March 4 this will be over...and Obama will be named the democratic Nom...cause all he has to do is win 1 of the states she claims is her firewall and I have family in Ohio if she thinks she is about to cake walk Ohio think again...hell she may not even take TX big like she thought...Hilary is done...stick a fork in her run...and now on to the old guy with alzheimers named McCain...it will take 1 debate with this moron to end his shot at the white house...bitter soccer moms and white feminest around the country break out them wet wipes cause your girl is going down March 4...

    President Obama ..

    To my Obama supporters out there...let these haters talk...Eye on the Price people..Eye on the Price...

    February 13, 2008 08:53 pm at 8:53 pm |
  19. Krissy

    Hillary's "Experience" is proposing a bunch of plans that are faulty. Obama has the best ECONOMIC plan. He has the best HEALTHCARE plan. Hillary is book smart, but she doesn't have wisdom. The people that say Obama is all talk and no substance obviously haven't read his very clear and detailed plans on his website.

    I am scared of what Hillary will do when she is desperate. She has already lied about Obama in her speeches, in the debates, had her husband lie, and sends out mailers with lies. HUGE lies. For instance she says in a mailer that Obama cut taxes for oil companies...when really the bill increased taxes for oil companies. She isn't lying to Obama...she is lying to the VOTERS. How can anyone support Hillary when she obviously doesnt want what is best for the citizens?

    February 13, 2008 08:53 pm at 8:53 pm |
  20. Jenny

    Only Obama can beat Mcain. I vote the party and I want the Rebuplicans out by whoever as long as they are a Democrat. Clinton can not beat Mcain that is why Mcain is now going after Obama. He wants Clinton to win. John is using Hillary's word to help her beat Barack because at the end of it all he will be the next President, keeping the Republicans in control of ruining the country and the planet We need a Democratic President, it doesn't matter who!!!!!

    February 13, 2008 08:53 pm at 8:53 pm |
  21. kathleen, illinois

    OBAMA has nothing to hide. Everybody has some issues in
    their past. Don't compare. One person drinks and the other
    smokes and the other is such a great father, or mother. and the others is not ,We have to accept our differences. GOOD OR BAD
    Who among will cast the first stone.

    February 13, 2008 08:54 pm at 8:54 pm |
  22. Mikey

    It is the fault of the media idiot! They manipulate us everyday! Grow up?!? I heard the same rhetoric coming from the Obama waste camp a few weeks ago! You grow up.!

    February 13, 2008 08:55 pm at 8:55 pm |
  23. chad in texas

    All of you Obama supporters need to wake up. McCain will chew him up and spit him out in a debate. Hillary 08

    February 13, 2008 08:55 pm at 8:55 pm |
  24. Brian

    Hillary Clinton is known for flip-flopping. Case in point:

    1964: Worked in the presidential campaign of Republican candidate Barry Goldwater.

    1968: Switched to the Democratic Party and campaigned for Eugene McCarthy.

    February 13, 2008 08:56 pm at 8:56 pm |
  25. Obama is the truth

    Hilary Clinton is a liar and a fake…Obama is the truth and soon to be the NEW President of the United States of America…as soon as he does away with Clinton and believe me…after March 4 this will be over…and Obama will be named the democratic Nom…cause all he has to do is win 1 of the states she claims is her firewall and I have family in Ohio if she thinks she is about to cake walk Ohio think again…hell she may not even take TX big like she thought…Hilary is done…stick a fork in her run…and now on to the old guy with alzheimers named McCain…it will take 1 debate with this moron to end his shot at the white house…bitter soccer moms and white feminest around the country break out them wet wipes cause your girl is going down March 4…

    President Obama....

    To my Obama supporters out there...

    Let the Haters hate....

    Eyes on the Prize Obama soilders....Eyes on the Prize..

    February 13, 2008 08:56 pm at 8:56 pm |
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