(CNN) - Hours after Barack Obama captured the overall delegate lead from rival Hillary Clinton, the two Democratic contenders took aim at each other on the campaign trail.
Clinton’s campaign unveiled a television ad in Wisconsin that criticized Obama for his approaches to health care policy and the housing crisis, and his decision thus far to accept just two debate invitations between now and March 4, despite Clinton’s call for weekly faceoffs.
In Wisconsin – where voters head to the polls next Tuesday – Obama praised former opponent John Edwards, and returned fire.
At a Texas campaign event Wednesday, Clinton herself praised Edwards, and returned to a regular trail theme - that Obama wasn’t ready for the Oval Office.
“I am in the solutions business, my opponent is in the promises business,” said Clinton, who added that the primary season called for “comparing and contrasting.”
"I have solutions to these economic problems, but the question is: does Sen. Obama?" she said. “We need real results, not more rhetoric. We need to get back in the solutions business."
The Clinton campaign has said strong showings in Texas and Ohio, which vote March 4, are “critical” for her.
On the trail in Wisconsin, in a major speech on economic policy, Obama said that the nation should reward “work, not wealth” by reforming the tax system – an important theme in Edwards’ presidential run. Obama accused Clinton of supporting a loophole for companies that outsource jobs to other nations. He said Clinton had supported NAFTA and a controversial bankruptcy bill that he had opposed, and said that she would “require the government to force you to buy health insurance and she said she'd 'go after' your wages if you don't.”
He tied Clinton to Republicans like GOP candidate John McCain and President Bush, saying Washington is a place “where politicians like John McCain and Hillary Clinton voted for a war in Iraq that should've never been authorized and never been waged - a war that is costing us thousands of precious lives and billions of dollars a week…” He also linked Clinton with President Bush, saying their economic plans were ineffective.
–CNN's Chris Welch, Peter Hamby and Rebecca Sinderbrand contributed to this report
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Just stop Hillary. If people would take just a little time and READ, they would know that Obama has "solutions" Stop with all this crap. Anyone with a brain knows its b.s.
Obama needs to give up some substance and let go of his manipulation of the american Media or is it vise a versa ? His voice still will not be heard by latinos and with out them he will not be president !
So her point is "I am not good but he is worse" ?
Yeah .. that gonna fly! Is that the new campaign strategy ?
Let's get it on!
Scorch the Earth!
Let's get divisive!
Senator Obama has been endorsed by countless leaders in the Democratic party and by over 100 major daily newspapers across the country.
Clinton attacks didn't work in Iowa, they didn't work in South Carolina, they didn't work in an other of the over 20 states won by Obama.
I like how Clinton emphasizes that she has solutions, but she has never defined those solutions any better than Obama has.
I'm Loving it! Follow the dotted lines, Bush to McCain to Hillary!
Sorry Hillary, America doesn't want Bush-like McCain or you!
Obama in 08!
Anyone but me notice the people standing behind Oprama in the new Rallys are all white. Where'd all the blacks go?
I can not believe the Opama fans are soo stupid. Take away Oprah, and his transparency is evident. If Michelle dosen't have to vote for a democrat, if it is not her husband, why should I? Her interview was very informative, he snores and leaves the butter out, and she won't vote for a democrat except Barack?
Funny how Barack Obama never had the opportunity to oppose the war. Illinois state legislators don't vote on national military operations. Once he entered the senate, he has voted exactly the same way she has about the war, including many initiatives to continue funding the troops (and by default the war). I guess a speech 6 years ago is more important than a voting record in the past 2...
Hillary and Barack have IDENTICAL votes on the war. Hillary is better on the issues. Health care, the economy, foreign policy they all lean her way. I hope that people wake up from the Obama-induced stupor before it is too late. Hope is great, but it doesn't get me the health care I need. Hope is fine, but not when accompanied by a vote against putting a reasonable cap on credit card interest rates. Yes WE can. No OBAMA can't.
Let's face it. Either Obama or Clinton would be better than McCain.
Of course, so would a sack of cement.
What solutions ??
Obama gave great details about his economic policy in this speech.
I'd like to hear Hillary's solutions as well.
Just saying 'Universal Healthcare' doesn't mean squat when there is no descript way of her implementing this without garnishing wages.
This is all smoke and mirrors.
REPUBLICANS FOR OBAMA We can do it. OBAMACAN. We do not need the same old politicians anymore. They are in RETIREMENT AGE and should leave the country to the new generation. OBAMACAN
you're absolutely right, Chris. Both (all, actually) primary campaigns are based in rhetoric, not the least of which is Clinton's campaign. The difference is that HER rhetoric is about the fact that her campaign is not rhetoric and how Obama's is nothing but. Obama's rhetoric is appealing to the people because given his accomplishments to date and his incredible and obvious intellect and ability, we are confident that he can implement that which he so eloquently states in his "rhetoric."
solutions Hillary, where is the Health Care plan when your husband was in office?
Ok mr Obama. I am one of your fanatic supporters even though I don't live in the USA and am not American either. but now the time comes when you should start toput your money where your mouth is. Your competitors challenge you to be specific about economy, health care, Iran etc. I've heard your speeches, read many items about you andrealize that I am dying of curiosity to find out where you stand on the details. you have to defuse the "no substance" attack line of Clinton and McCain. I think by now it's better to air your plans (no matter how debatable they are) rahter than keeping them hidden in a mist of words.
It's too bad Clinton is going negative, but what else can she do at this point, but to go negative, she's desperate and floundering. The interestion question is:"How will the Republicans and John McCain go negative? How will they paint the first African-American Man to have a better then 80% chance of winning the Democratic nomination as a bad person or wrong choice without inflaming the entire Minority communities across the country?
I mean look at the back drop McCain uses all the time....always Old White Men standing behind him. I have yet to see a person of color up front on stage, holding McCains hand as victor fro minority issues and causes.
The appeal of Obama is so amazing to see, I'm thrilled at the chance to vote for him in the South Dakota primary and in the general elections. He represents change from the same old tired politicians same old tired looking faces offering us nothing because they can't make anything work. Obama will bring that adn can bring that to our country.
For 8 years in the White House, instead of solutions all Hillary did was to energize the republican base.
A clear solution - just get out of the race
I think I won't vote for anyone but Obama
I'm an Independent. My wife is a Republican. If Obama is nominated we'll vote for him. If its Hillary we'll vote for McCain. There are millions more, just like us. Should be a no-brainer "solution" for the Dems.
why does being first lady give you experience? Eleanor Roosevelt for President would have been laughed at... Laura Bush would be laughed at... Mary Todd Lincoln laughed at... get it?
All Clinton has to do is point out that Obama is all talk and no action.
Anyone who's studied his senate record can see he's just a partisan party loyalist who has done nothing of note.
Democrats do you yet get the message? Its time to recognise that we need to pull together and stand against the Republican machine.
Lets start getting organised for the Campaign for President and stop the internal fighting. We can beat the Republicans into the dust and we will, but lets start pulling together.
I know we all had our favourite candidate and I was a huge supporter of Clinton as well. However, there comes a time when we say the Primaries are over and we need to consolidate our strengths and win this Election. Obama is clearly the candidate. Lets get down to work!
Im afraid that all these noise about Obama being the most electable, and the better candidate to beat the republican, is a hidden and well calculated strategy ,highly supported, funded and researched by the republicans in order to have a walk-through on the democrates when they nominate Obama as their candidate. Karl Roove should be building a strategy right now that will take the democrates off balance, and at that time it would be too late for the democrats to react.
Democrats, think well and dont fall prey again as you did in 2004.
She had 8 year Co presidency,as per her own words, and got nothing done.As the senator from NY she gave Bush her support for the 100 year war,as per McCain.She is well defined.
Billary is at her/his ole tricks again. going negative against their opponent. Seems she has not learned a lesson well taught when her sweet adorable, stay at home/white house/ intern training husband went negative in South Carolina. Billary, please dont dig a deeper hole than the one you and your loving husband has dug already. Now is a good time to bow out gracefully rather than shame yourself later.
Go Hillary!! Indeed it was about time to point out that Hillary is a doer with specific solutions while Obama is a great speaker but gives promises and platitudes without ever telling anyone how he will deliver on his promises.
In short, Obam is a feel-good at the primary candidate, with no known plan for follow up.
If he becomes the nominee , the Republicans will beat him on thaat point and regain the White House. He simply does not have the experience and personality to stand up to McCain. Republicans and the rest of the country will not be reptive to his rhetoric in the general election... That is why Hillary is the strongest nominee!
Avi...he never said he voted against the war. He said he opposed the war from the beginning. In fact, he spoke out against the invasion before it happened.
Didn't Hillary have her chance at "solutions"... The last time I checked she already tried to push maditory health care. It got killed because the republicans used the "manditory" part and strangled it so badly the democrats lost both houses of congress over the fight.
So... now she's pushing another manditory plan and criticising Obama for suggesting a way to help people get health care rather than force them to do so.
Hmm....
She is nothing. She's done nothing. She's the one with the empty rhetoric. She has nothing. She needs to sit and count her 8 state loss and wipe the tear drop from her cheek. She needs to congratulate Senator Obama on his 8 recent victories. She needs to stop lying about her health care program where she can't even say what the fine would be for those who do not accept her MANDATE. She needs to stop lying about Obama's health care coverage not covering everybody, it does, it will, it JUST DOES NOT MANDATE. Good. She needs to show the American people all the blood on her hands for voting for a war that should never have been authorized, for voting for a lie, because she refused to read the intelligence reports, an excuse. She needs to tell the American people why she voted to give George Bush a blank check to bomb Iran as her friend McCain sings and laughs - Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran –. And that's exactly what he plans to do. How despicable! She needs to stop calling for more debates at the expense of Senator Obama just because she cannot afford publicity any more since she had to borrow 5 million dollars from her own money to feed her campaign. She needs to release her tax returns as Obama has requested, what is she hiding. Why are the American people accepting that she will only release them AFTER the nomination. This is unacceptable. She needs to apologize to the American people in the states where Obama won where she dismissed all their votes calling those states, those votes insignificant. In fact, I think it's time for Hillary Clinton to just drop out of the race for president of the United States.
Isn't this the same as the Clinton Goes Negative ticker?
Did you know that Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina both broke the same rule as Florida and Michigan?
IO, NH and SC waited until the decision came out on FL and MI. The determination as to what will happen with the IO, NH and SC delegates is still pending. Ha! Ha!
I love watching the Democratic party implode.
I am of the conviction that the indepedent led demoncrats have miss another opportuinty at capturing the white house by voting for Obama who has not clearly explain his paradigm for change.
This is beyond laughable......does she really think this is going to work......Obama has voters to meet, he doesn't have time to play these games with Ms. Solution. I wouldn't toot that horn to loud considering her finacial situation and losing staff members....is that her solution for running the country.
Everyone says obama has no substance! But hey at least he isnt basing his whole campaign on a plan that already failed in a Democratically controlled congress!! You all remember her universal health plan from years back..oh you dont? Well thats because it didnt work!!! At least he doesnt tell the people that voted for him in a state that he lost that their vote dont matter. Hillary is killing her own campaign! Blame the media all you want but if she didnt do what she did...there wouldbe nothing to report!
Obama '08
Experience counts, but so do qualities like intelligence, poise, decency and the ability to articulate a vision. The latter is especially important. When politicians of both parties swallowed the administration’s justification for the Iraq War, here’s what Obama said in 2002:
“I don’t oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.”
Who has been proven right - the establishment men and women (Senators with many many years of experience) of Washington, D.C., or the upstart from Chicago?
This isn’t an endorsement of Obama; it’s possible that the rigors of a presidential campaign will unmask weaknesses in his personal and political character (that’s why campaigns are held, but we haven’t seen any as yet). But pundits who believe presidential candidates must be marinated in years and years of high-profile elected offices are wrong. There may be reasons why Barack Obama shouldn't be president, the next few months may reveal some tremendous weakness, but his relatively brief time on the national political stage isn’t one of those of the reasons why he shouldn’t be President.
Lets Rally people!!!
Democrats '08 and '12
i'm all for hope but i am more for fairness. let's give senator clinton the same air time as obama, no negative comments,just like obama.
Avi...
he couldn't vote on the war...but before the vote happened he was against it and said it would be stupid war...he was one of many. He couldn't vote...duhhhh. So your mad that Clinton had a choice and instead of going with the flow...she decided to vote for it. Just cause you can or cannot vote doesn't mean you have to go along with the crowd.
Obama never said he VOTED against the war. He said he was against it from the begining. He made speeches about his opposition before the vote. Just because he didnt get to vote doesnt mean he wasnt right.
Second I am against the war but i can not say that we should not fund our troops. Its not like they went there of free will. This president sent them in there without body armor you think he would pull them out if we stop funding now?
What should Obama do,vote against funding our troops??? We have Americans over there dying now and anyone who votes against giving them what they need to stay alive until we can get them out is UN-AMERICAN.
its quite amusing to have politicians believe they are economists ..it's the policy and vision ..the work is always done by everybody else
its vision that counts
Hillary Clinton voted for a war that is bankrupting America and has diminished the respect that the once mighty USA had.
Imagine all the good ..heathcare, education, infrastructure that America needs ..and its money being wasted in a war that will never be won
McCain needs a brainscan ..see if there is a loss of neurons ..he is getting senile ..
I don't understand this so called need for more debates. There have been enough. I am also tired of hearing about "experience". People with tons of it got us into this mess. We need to new blood. This elder generation is running up a bill that my generation and our children are going to obligated to pay. That is not fair, we need to be thinking about the future generations.
"Republican voters who decided not to vote in their own party’s primary – they chose Obama by an even larger margin, 71 to 25 percent over Clinton in Virginia"
Why Why -
Weak up democrats because they do not wont to face Hillary Clinton in fall but Obama they know she bit anyone.
I need bread on my table today not hope for nothing. One create the future today by learning from the past not by abandoning it.
Go Hillary
Go Obama! Hillary is desperate and we can all see that. Barack opposed the war and has been very vocal about it. The reason that he voted the same way Clinton has since he came to the Senate has been because he wants to protect our troops. He cares about the people that are defending the nation on our behalf.
Billay:
blah, blah, blah................. yes what have you done for this country in the last 35 years?
Yes We Can.
Obama inspires people. Clinton does not do as well. Obama brings crowds to his events and has them chanting. Clinton does not do as well.
Clinton knows the issues. Obama does not. Clinton performs well in debates. Obama does not. Clinton answers questions explicitly. Obama is vague and returns to monologues.
Imagine yourself in the desert for 2 days without food or water. You look in one direction and you see (very clearly) a water fountain. You look in the other direction and you see an oasis with palms and a beach, very nirvana like; except that it is all a bit hazy, not crisp at all. You're not sure if the oasis is real. Which would you go for? If you go to the water fountain, you may be saved. If you go to the oasis, it may not be real.
Personally, I'd prefer to go to the water fountain and save myself. Then, once fully hydrated, I'd risk travelling to tthe oasis to see if it's real.
So, why would so many people risk our childrens education, our national security and our ECONOMY to a man that is nothing more than a mirage? Elect Clinton and let Obama prove himself in Washington first. He has not finished even one term yet. Let him change things, as he says he wants to, from the inside. He can do it as a Senator, believe me. If he is capable. He's only 47. He will have another chance in 4-8 years.
Take a drink of water and save yourselves. Don't risk the mirage.
Hey Charlotte... I find your comment offensive. I am an Obama supporter and Iam not stupid. Also- Oprah's support of Obama had nothing to do with my decision. I support Obama because he is brilliant and it is time for America to write a new chapter. I will support Clinton if she wins the nomination but I feel Obama is a better choice. I have to wonder about your intelligence if you think Oprah really has that much influence... the pundits will tell you that there are very few endorsements that really matter and have thoguht that Oprah's involvement may have hindered Obama initially. It is people like you that turn this into a black and white thing.
The only reason Hillary wants a debate a week is because her campaign is running low on money and a debate is free advertising.
Avi,
PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAP!!! We have to fund our troops until they are brought home. We can't let ur kind send them to war and not spend money to buy them food, not give them clothes to wear, not give them boots, guns to protect themselves, etc..... Please THINK!!!! These are our sons and daughters who are over there; we can't bite off our nose to spite our face!
Dang, seems like common sense to me.....
tmd – then he should have maintained position while voting in the senate. if you really believe something, you stand up for it no matter the opposition. words are one things, actions are another...
I hope I don't have to end up voting for a Republican.
CNN is unbelievable. It mentions specifically how Clinton has criticized Obama but then states that Obama praised Edwards and then returned fire....So CNN, what was the return fire? What criticism did Obama say about Clinton? I'm getting to sick and tired of CNN not reporting the negativity that Obama spits out daily about Clinton.
Of course I won't be surprised if this is not posted!
Have the people seen that Obama has gone negative on Hillary and McCain lumping them with Bush. I guess you would have to listen to his rhetoric rather just being mesmerized by his words. Obama is just another politician.
ANYBODY but Hillary!
LOL.... Hillary is getting Desperate!! she is loosing and she is attacking.... And all of her supporters are going mad!!! The country is speaking and they are SAYING its time to MOVE ON!!! no more Clintons on the White House! no more of the same!!! why dont you hear the voice of the country? She is done, she is going negative and she is attacking Obama and, believe me, that does not work!! she can't win this race and she can't win against Mccain! Why then does she keeps hurting the party??
STEP DOWN NOW BILLARY!!!!!
If Hillary was in the solutions business, doesn't is seem like she would have solved healthcare while she had a full 8 years before to do so?
Very good point by Avi>>>> Obama has consistently voted to fund the war. If he is so opposed to it, he should vote against funding it, but doesn't because it can be politically costly to not "support our troops on the field". Of course he was not in the Senate in 2002, but he was in 2007 when the vote on Iran was taken. What did he vote: "Absent" !
This time he said he did not vote because he was campaigning.... But so was Hillary and she found the time to vote!
McCain will not hesitate to use this during the campaign if Obama is the nominee.
I am afraid it is becoming clear we are in a case of all talk, no substance....and McCain is on to it, as he pointed out last night: "lots of rhetoric and platitudes" were his words...
I prefer our chances with Hillary in November...
Clinto needs to start going negative because she has lost her ability to resonate with voters. People are realizing that she failed at universal healthcare before and will fail again. She has been in elected office less time than Obama. Being First Lady doesn't count. She was not in Cabinet meetings.
Obviously if you are Clinton supporter, you will try to cut Obama down by saying he lacks experience and has empty promises....but at the end of the day, she is a divisive politician who will put a bad taste in Republicans mouths and will not be able to get anything done unless there is a super majority of Dems in Congress which is unlikely.
OBAMA '08
Its funny how all of a sudden Hillary is trying to say rude things about Obama! The only reason she wants to debate every week is because she's broke! She needs the money, and she doesnt have the funds to place ads in key states like Texas and Ohio the way Obama can. The American people aren't stupid, and they are starting to see right through Hillary's pre-written, lifeless speeches. I dont beleive a word that flys out of her mouth. She says she wants health care for everyone, but the side note is she thinks we should take better care of ourselves, dont get hurt, etc. What kind of plan is that exactly. I think it makes much more sense to make health care more affordable so people can purchase it, then make everyone pay some ridiculous amount for health care and penalize them if they dont. Thats not democracy, that's BUSH!
Her solutions are nothing but promises until she enacts them into legislation
Clinton HAS been defining solutions for over 30 years. You Obama supporters evidently don't know how to read.
Hillary is ranked better than obama when it is about the economy according to an article from MSNBC
"After all, Obama is hardly a shoo-in for the C-suite set: He's got a scant three-year record on the national stage, and he wants to roll back the Bush tax cuts that benefit many of the people running big American companies. Plus, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce gives him the lowest rating of any of the three major contenders for the Presidency, behind Senator Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.)."
Go Hillary
Different state...........not as many blacks I guess.
Senator Clintons plan does not say that they will 'go after your wages'......Senator Obama should take a lesson in telling the truth!!!
Change........hummmmmm.....millions without health insurance now and millions if his plan is implemented – no change at all.
The American people better get their head out of the paper bag, come up for some air, out of the dark and get on with it here! This guy is all fluff and no substance!
Every American should just ask themselves: has Barak Obama told you what he will do for you? how he is going to do it? when he is going to do it? If you get 1 yes and 2 no's – vote for Senator Clinton. She has answered all 3 yes!
Charlotte, If the only reason you don't like Obama is because Oprah happened to endorse him, then you're just as myopic as the people who are on his side because she did. Not to mention, I haven't seen Oprah running around the country stumping for him. I think you're giving her too much credit, personally.
You know what? You shouldn't vote for a Democrat or a Republican. You should vote for the candidate that you most agree with and think will do the best job regardless of their party affiliation.
Err... What solutions? I haven't heard any solutions from you Hillary. Could you repeat what those solutions were again?
Thanks.
Obama '08
I live in NY...and Hillary' lack of judgment is evident on just about all issues....including Iraq....in the latest driver license for illegals issue from NY Gov. Eliot Spitzer whom hill "borrowed" her "on day one" slogan from, she never said anything, and finally after spitzer saw he had no support for thinking outside the box, then he decided not to pursue it.....then hill finally said yeah I guess I don't like it either...what a decisive leader!!!
She has also said, "I voted for this bill, but I hoped it failed".
What a brilliant doubletalking politician she is, after 35 or whatever years' of experience, and she still can't make up her mind....
Wow, I can't wait until she faces a real crisis, one where just breaking down and crying won't solve.......
Like the "solutions" from her last health care plan and the "results" of her votes as senator? No thanks.
Michelle Obama will get roses on Valentines Day, isn't her husband wonderful??????
Have we forgoten how wonderful the Clinton years were for our country?? The Clinton years put roses in all our pockets, and food on the table and our children were better cared for thanks to Hillary.
What a short memory we have!!!!
Some powerful allegations by Barak and Hilary. I hope they're discussed in the next debate.
I have noticed the only comments here are Obama hater's. I wonder why?
since we are looking at "what has or has not been done"
Anyone wonder why Hillary (having been in the senate for as long as she has) has not been biting at the ankles of anyone who will listen to get something done about health care. Her plan was defeated when she was the First Lady, so, as a senator did she just stop trying?
Just curious
Avi,
Getting to Democrats to vote to fund the war was an excellent move by Republicans. It boxed them into a corner and force them to either vote for the funding, thus approve the war, or not vote for the funding and be seen as not supporting the troops. This was a brilliant move and was done to take the politics out of the war if things went bad for the administration because they could say that the Democrats were in it from the beginning.... So that speech in 2002 was infact a difference that no one can refrute.....
Also, Joe Biden, who by far is the most respected Democrat on Foreign policy, made this same claim in one of the earlier debates.
HRC is not out of this thing by a long shot. She is a veteran in elections that go back as far as the early eighties. She will not lay down. It may be to the detriment of the Dem party and allow for McCain to sneak up and win the election. If that happens, at 64 yrs old, she may be able to run again in 4 years since it will show that Obama wasn't able to win against a weak candidate, in an off year for the Republicans. It is wonderful to watch the Democrats continue to self implode to the detriment of their party. To their dimise... they couldn't win if they were up by 20 points with only 2 seconds to go... they will find a way to allow the other team to score a 21 point play....
Barack is whom the Republicans fear the most. What do all you Hillary backers think about that? He'll bring over Independents and Republicans in the general election just as he is now. Hillary is despised by them. Get real, go Barack!
Also, I was at the Barack rally in Mpls MN, and was inspired by all of the african-americans (& others) surrounding me and the look of hope in their faces. Unite behind Barack democrats. He's the real deal.
Throughout the Clinton campaign she has been more duly noted for "stopping" Obama's momentum. At what point does she began to create her own momentum. If she plans to win the Democratic nomination, it's time she plays "offensive" rather than the current "preventive defense"....Please excuse the football analogy.
Funny how CNN isn't reporting that Edwards just short of endorsed Clinton today. He's still wobbly because he doesn't want to endorse her if she's going to lose... but he has leaned toward endorsing her. Where's the news alert?? Is ABC News one uping CNN??
Obama keeps saying he is about change but if you pay attention to him, he is nasty on the campaign trail. What kind of CHANGE is that? It's just campaign rhetoric, that's what it is.
The media doesn't show you this but that is how he lost my vote. I was so disappointed to discover the tactics he used in SC, Nevada, at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner speech.
Look on his website. His followers are zealots, a cult. Similar to his wife saying she wouldn't support any other democrat. I suppose she isn't actually Pro-Choice then because if a democrat isn't in the White House, women will continue to lose their right to choose.
THIS VOTER HAS CHANGED TO HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!!!!
But speaking out against something is easy if you are never asked to back it up. Once he was put to the test and had to actually vote he voted exactly the same way that Clinton did!!! When he said he was against it he never had to prove this, but his votes where he did have to take a position seem to prove otherwise!
Hillary is a sore loser.
She wants Senator Obama to tag along behind her to any and all debates that she sees fit – but he is running his own campaign and playing by his own rules by going to meet the people and his strategy is working!
She is NOT even in Wisconsin – she ran off to Texas!
Obama '08
Why are Hillary's supporters encouraging this sort of behavior from her? This and now the negative ad combined with everything that has happened int he past few weeks.. wow.
Even if you support Hillary you should expect better from her.
Boris Yeltsin elected as first Russian president on June 12, 1991 by a direct popular vote. His policy at the time: change. Most russian people wanted change for so many years. But his government failed miseably and most Russians lived worse under his presidency.
Here in the US, we have many voters wanted change also now. Do we know each candidates' policy clearly? Are you sure the change you voted for is the change you will get? For sure there will be change, since Bush will leave the Whitehouse no matter what. Are we voting for the prosperity of this country and people?
Solutions, solutions... with all the "experience" Clinton claims and all the time she has had to get solutions in place... where are they? Really... where are the results of years!? Well, they're basically not there. So, how does anyone believe she can deliver oh, let's say health care... universal health care? She had time and opportunity and we remain where we are today. Who out there believes her health care PROMISES are even remotely palateable for Republicans? She "promises", "tries", "fails", blames opposition" and then faces everyone with a clear conscience!? Sounds like no conscience to me and I suspect to those with no health care and a potentially wasted vote, stolen by the worst of promising tactics. Obama's health plan is not a wonder either, but it reflects infinitely greater experience or judgement than Clinton's. At least his is something opposing forces can negotiate with. Or, really, do you all just wanna keep things the way they are?... then sure, vote Clinton.
Bottom line is this race will not be decided by internet chatter.
The voters are "speaking" and it's about time!
Love Obama or hate him! Love Hillary or hate her!
In the end it's what happens in that booth that counts.
So far the voters are saying in LARGE numbers YES WE CAN!!!!!
Charlotte,
The reason all the people behind Obama are white is because he's in Wisconsin. In case you didn't know, there aren't that many black people in Wisconsin.
For those who keep saying that Obama doesn't have specifics, check out his website. It's all there. Just because he doesn't bore his audiences with policy speeches like Clinton doesn't mean he doesn't have specific plans.
This whole "funding the war" argument is ludicrous. You can be against the war, but be in favor of making sure the troops have the money and supplies necessary to keep them alive. You don't shortchange the troops just to prove a political point. The war needs to end, but the Americans fighting in the war need to come home ALIVE. Don't be so absent minded and sick.
And CNN, you say " a major speech on economic policy" but never say what he talked about. I wonder why people think he's all talk and no substance? Maybe it's because the MEDIA doesn't like to report substance?
To Avi: Obama most certainly did oppose the war before it even started. He was not in the U.S. Senate at the time (no one ever said he was) but he spoke out against the war while he was campaigning for the U.S. Senate and at a time that the U.S. population was overwhelmingly pro-war. He was told that opposing the war would be political suicide but he did it anyway. That takes courage and integrity. The same level of courage and integrity that Clinton FAILED TO SHOW when she voted to authorize the war WITHOUT even reading the intelligence report that supposed provided the factual basis for going to war.
As for funding the war, there is a big difference between authorizing a war and funding an ongoing war. Both Clinton and Obama have voted to fund the troops now that they are already there. Would you really want to deprive our innocent soldiers of the tools they need to survive over in Iraq just to make a political point? I would hope not. Until Obama can start to bring our troops, our troops deserve funding.
Charlotte,
There were few blacks behind him because he was in Wisconsin...... have you been there??? Madison may have about 6% black population. Your obvious depiction of this has something to do with your own backround that has you intrigued....... I wonder where that comes from....
My last post was to tmd... this one is to Andy... even Obama has stated that she is a workhorse that he wanted to be like once in the senate. She is a doer, her Senate record has proven this and given her a lot of respect amongst the other Senators. So to you I say that her promises turn into reality and his message of hope is something that we already all have anyway!
What is it that makes Clinton so much more "experienced" than Obama? She's only been in the Senate 3 years longer than he has, yet she keeps claiming she has 35 years of experience.
The bulk of these so called years of experience came as first lady in Arkansas and then in Washington. I don't care what anyone says, this is simply a "smile and wave" job where you say good things all the time but rely on your husband to get them done.
Clinton did get to lead a big project once as first lady, and that was healthcare reform. We all know how that worked out.
I find Clinton to contradictory. She says that she knows how to beat Republicans, although she's only had one more electoral victory than Obama (she's won twice for the Senate, to his one). All these other "victories" were Bill's. It seems then that Hillary is using Bill's experience as her experience, even though she claims that if she wins the presidency, she will be in charge and not Bill.
I respect the Clintons and I think Bill was a great president, but I think the time for real change has come, and while I think Hillary would make a good president, I think Obama would make a better one.
Avi -Once he entered the senate, he has voted exactly the same way she has about the war, including many initiatives to continue funding the troops (and by default the war).
At least Obama understands he needs to support the troops, even though he did not support to go to war. He knows that he will challenge the need to remain in Iraq
Anyone arguing Obama doesn't have specific plans clearly hasn't bothered to read his position papers or listened to any of those endless debates over the past year.
He has plans – very detailed ones. The Clintonistas are just using the "no beef" line because they really don't have anything else to go after with him.
Having plans doesn't necessarily help though if they are no good: Hillary's plans with freezing foreclosures just reek of economic naivety.
If Hillary was really in the solutions business, doesn't is seem like she would have solved healthcare while she had a full 8 years before to do so?
what has HIllary done?
Boris Yeltsin elected as first Russian president on June 12, 1991 by a direct popular vote. His policy at the time: change. Most russian people wanted change for so many years. But his government failed miseably and most Russians lived worse under his presidency.
Here in the US, we have many voters wanted change also now. Do we know each candidates' policy clearly? Are you sure the change you voted for is the change you will get? For sure there will be change, since Bush will leave the Whitehouse no matter what. Are we voting for the prosperity of this country and people?
CNN=not fair.
The fact remains, tmd tat Obama did not vote for the war because he was not in a position to do that until he became a Senator. Since that time, he voted for every war initiative. Bush started that war for his own reasons that had nothing to do with Senators who voted NOT for a premptive strike....not to mention all the fear tactics used at that time to keep all of us from protesting. Let's not forget that fact. Obama is running with only 3 years experience. That is the most troubling for me. Anyone in business would not become CEO without a proven, strong resume. Why does the job of President of the United States deserve less? Wake up America before it is too late!
What solutions has Clinton been defining for over 30 yrs? I need to know what all she has done. Obama has just as much experience as Clinton. I'm tired of people thinking that Clinton has more experience than Obama. Besides, its not about who has more experience in washington its about who is able to CHANGE washington. Hillary still takes in money from lobbyists, and special interests while Obama doesn't. How can Hillary go against the people who are supporting her candidacy once she is the nomination? She can't! She is taking money from the OIL companies, the Drug Companies and many others. All the reforms that she is promising are empty promises because she is supporting those companies by taking their money! Its one thing to promise something, and its quite another to actually be good on those promises. She can not bring about the kind of change that america needs in this century. Obama can.
It seems evident that Hilary is worrying...and she should be! First replacing her campaign manager next, donating her own money to her campaign, and now the desperate act of a negative ad in Wisconsin.
It's wonderful news that Obama is in the lead. What is very disturbing and disheartening are the 800 Superdelagates (Mr.Clinton is one as I'm sure are many of his "pals." ) Super delagates equals another way for the govt to go against the popular vote. With the Clinton machine running at full steam, I don't see how Obama could win. I still have hope though...FOR REAL CHANGE...Let me end by saying if the race comes down to Clinton vs. McCain, this will be the first time I ever vote for a republican. I'm not the only who feels that way!
CNN ever hear of freedom of speach? Stop denying people their rights! post all blogs unless they are offensive!
If Hillary was a doer, she would have gotten her policies past during her 35 years of failed policies.
Obama is running on a "new kind of politics" but he is a phony. Just "google" Obama's first run for Illinois senate. He marched into the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners with a team of lawyers and challaged every signature on the nominating ballots of his four rivals. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.
He won because he was the only one on the ballot. His most prominant fundraiser is going on trial for corruption and fraud.
Give me a break Obama.
@Against CNN,
Can somebody PLEASE show me how HRC has been "defining solutions for over 30 years"? What did she do to define solutions during the first Clinton presidency? Write a book that removed some responsibility from parents to raise their children and offer up a half baked and unweildy national health care scheme that set the cause of universal medical coverage back a good 15 years? What did she do to define solutions to all of these global issues on which she now claims the high ground of experience before that? To my understanding she was an attorney (a good one, no doubt) and involved in a few non-profits (most concerning child welfare) and corporate boards (Wal-Mart, one of the most predatory companies on the planet). What about that resume screams experience, much less consistently "defining solutions for over 30 years"?
If he was so opposed to the war from the get go, why did he vote to fund it? oh right, he sems to be exempt from having to answer that question.
He can't wag a finger at her for her vote, when he, once voted into elected office (and having apparently the wisdom to know better) voted to fund the war he opposed.
If she is accountable for voting for the authorzation, then he is equally accountable for ensuring it continued.
I agree with "chris," Clinton talks a lot but, in reality, she is just as much of a "promiser" as Obama, except that Obama can make this change happen and she won't, she is just another candidate who is a puppet of wealthy puppetmasters.
"I have solutions to these economic problems, but the question is: does Sen. Obama?" – This statement has no backbone to it, senator Barack Obama has solutions to every issue raised and has repeatedly been answering questions on what he'll do to the economy if he becomes U.S. president.
Hope Clinton soon realizes that you can't fight tornado, and that's exactly what Barack Obama's campaign is.
These attacks are proof of Obama's steamrolling over Hillary. She and Bill have managed to lose the respect of hundreds of thousands of Americans who would have otherwise escorted her into the White House had it not been for her whining, sore losing, political spinning! Obama will have Hillary to thank more than anyone come next January when he takes the Oath of Office. She dug her own whole here.
I love debates, but it is silly for Hillary to propose the ludicrous idea of a debate a *week*, and then call Obama, in essence, a coward for agreeing to the still-extravagant two in a month. Good lord, do we really need another round of "So, Mr. Obama, we hear that you're black" and "Mrs. Clinton, any response to the allegations that you are biased against sapphire jewelry?" and other watered-down bull from the media?
Hillary is doing this because she knows her strength is debating and his strength is campaigning, and any of her supporters who can't see that are fooling themselves.
Really? She has? What are they, specifically?
Neither candidate has done an effective job of saying exactly what they are going to do in speeches (especially Hillary "Hypocrite" Clinton). If you want to know what policy plans the candidates have, be an informed voter, and get on the old internet and look it up.
...There's a reason Barack Obama supporters are OVERWELMINGLY more educated that Hillbilly's...
To all of you that say you will vote for Mccain...fine it's your vote.
To all of you that are singing Hillary's praises....Since you think she is the BEST candidate on the race,The Strongest,The Brightess.....
Tell me how is it you believe Mccain will defeat OBAMA,when your Hillary could not!!!!
I guess you're saying John Mccain is superior over them both. Because if Hillary can't beat a Jr.Senator....how was she going to defeat Mccain?
Go somewhere and LICK your wounds! And hope against hope that somehow Billary can win BIG on 4 March!
She never wins by a big margin,so how she's going to pull this one off,I'm dying to see!!!!!
OBAMA08!!!!!!
You Hillary supporter have been saying that the Clinton News Network has been so biased toward Obama, yet they quote exactly what she says toward Obama but simply says Obama "returned fire" without expanding on what it was that he said.
That's Hillaryous (intentionally misspelled). He really needs to go on the offense NOW and start pulling her record as a Senator for which she has done absolutely NOTHING except secure funds (earmark) for a museum that NOONE will ever go to. He needs to go after her for the measly 9 months she spent doing charity work. Her 7 years as an elected official vs. his 12 years.
You hill supporters are really grasping at straws. First it is I want more debates, but then she refuses one of them because they "hurt her feelings". Then she's loosing because of the caucus states, then it's she's loosing because of the African-american population, then it's because she's out of money (whose fault is that?, I'm sure somehow that's Obama's fault too), then it was "those states don't matter", what is it going to be next?
Face it Hillary and her supporters are NOTHING but excuse after excuse after excuse.
Enough already.....face it......she's done. I have nothing against her personally. Obama is the best candidate to turn this direction in the right direction. A vote for Hillary is like turning the page BACKWARDS. A vote for Obama is turning the page FORWARD.
OBAMA '08
Hehe and they say the GOP is divided
Clintons under pressure. This is just her reaction to being up against the wall.
I always wondered what kind of people could possibly be voting for Hillary before today. Then I read the comments here, and i finally understand. Oprama? Wow, I would venture a guess you're a young, immature, white female and probably be right on at least three of the four.
Hey Francois, hate to break it to you, but Hillary is the master of avoiding specifics of her plans. It took weeks before she finally revealed that little tidbit about garnishing wages.
I love watching Hillary start to reach deep into her bag of tricks now that a little desperation has set in. She's not beat by any means, but she sees writing on the wall that's not to her liking. What's next, negative campaign ads? Wait...
Hilary keeps going on about her 35 years of experience but never goes into real detail about those years. I'd like to know what she did at the age of 25 that was so remarkable, what she did while she was on the board of Wal-Mart, what she did while she was First lady besides failing with her healthcare plan.
Hilary also brags about how she has been fighting republicans for 35yrs.... really. Has she ever won one of those fights or does she plan on continuing the fight for another 4+ years. Is that what the country needs?
Voting for troop funding in not even close to voting to allow the Iraq conflict. Don't confuse supporting the military during a time of war with voting to begin the war. Furthermore, Obama's last rally was in Wisconsin, a place that the US Census Bureau has as 90% white. I'm not surprised that there were a lot of white faces in the crowd last night. If you're going to represent everyone (his message) and remain honest, you can't bus in your minority of choice.
If you need to more know about his issues, listen to his debates. He hasn't given you his entire platform, but they are revealed there. If you still want more, go to his website.
Well being a California independent voter who cast my vote for Barack Obama, I find the present situation with the democratic super delegates both humorous and tittering on the verge of a disaster. I can only hope that with all the unpredictably of this primary season, that Puerto Rico will chose the democratic nominee in June. Most likely in the year 2012, both Florida and Michigan will be fighting over which state will vote last in the primary season.
Poor Hillary now that the clock is beginning to strike 12 she has decided to go negative. Is this her idea or Bills hmmmm?
Wow! and Wow again..All the way to the whitehouse for Hilliary. She has guts and courage. She may not be a rock star, but she can take this country in the direction we need to go. Too much talk...Barack..let's debate..Scared Maybe? Because ??????? you are scared that we may find out that your promises all have increase taxes tacked on to the already burden citizens of america.
Fear smells – and this place stinks to high heaven. Hillary's campaign is like the Titanic – sinking fast, with disastrous results for those on board to come shortly.
See, I was gonna vote for Billary because I refuse to vote for McCain.
I'm an independent and said I wouldn't vote for Monica Lawinski's ex-boyfriend's wife if she did anything as stoopid as crying on national tv the day before the NH Primary, but then she did it again the day before Super Tuesday.
(to add to that, now she wants to break party rules to get the Michigan and Florida delegates back in play because she is falling behind)
I am grateful to have Obama to vote for since I couldn't stand Romney, refuse to vote for McCain, and Bill's wife has behaved sooo stupidly.
I find him inspiring although I agree I would like to hear him be more substantive.
To have a girl or a black guy in the White House is huge, can't wait to see what happens.
This is my fifth opportunity to vote for president, Ross Perot certainly made it interesting back in the 90's, but this is the absolute best, most exciting and gripping campaign season I have seen!
Read the 02/12/08 Wall Street Journal artical about the Clintons. Very interesting stuff. I'll let all of you judge for your selves.
What results has H. Clinton ever accomplished???
Way to go Obama! Don't let her get away with empty rhetoric! Stay on her! You're what the majority of people in the U.S. need so desperately!
Texas for Obama
Meh... liberals are wimps.
Pat – Speaking of short memories perhaps yours forgot how she stood by while her "husband" (chief surrogate and co-president) lied to the entire nation on television UNdER OATH on the floor of the senate 10 years ago.
That seems like a pretty short memory to me.
Funny how Senator Clinton continues to lie about being more experienced.
Senator Obama was elected to the Illinois State Legislature in 1996, four years before Senator Clinton was elected to the U.S. Senate. He had lived there for 11 years prior to seeking elected office, and served the community in paid and unpaid ways.
Senator Clinton was the First Lady in 1996, not an elected official. She moved to New York in 2000 in an opportunistic grab for power. She defeated an empty suit and during her 7 years of "service" can point to little more than having a Post Office named as her record of accomplishment. And she has talked. A lot. Sometimes, she's even told the the truth. But as she becomes more desperate, she's moving towards a "win at all odds" strategy that speaks to the very worst of us as human beings. The Nixonian politics of nastiness embraced by her husband and practiced by his successor need to end.
To Chris
Good point. Neither candidate has put forward a specific point by point plan, but if you are interested to know where each person stands on the issues, go to their respective campaign websites. I have and I can tell you, there is no need for anymore debates. The debates are over rated and controlled by the media complex. I, for one, want to see and hear these candidates respond to the questions of the voters, not the media and their opponent. We are the ones who are making the decision to support either candidate. Hillary is at it again, trying to think for me and everyone else. How many times will she put her foot in her mouth? Go Obama!
Obama is JUST LUCKY, Clinton haters have nobody to turn to but him.
All the negativisms, and the biased reporting and negative questions pointed by the media to spoon- feed the public with negative reactions against Hillary's campaign is an extraordinary job well-done..the public is taking it..AMERICA open your eyes and be realistic....This is USA-the leader of the world, we are not in KODAK THEATER!!!
Have we forgoten how wonderful the Clinton years were for our country?? The Clinton years put roses in all our pockets, and food on the table and our children were better cared for thanks to Hillary.
News flash, Pat. The economic boom (and bust) had NOTHING to do with Hillary (or Bill). The surplus was due to Congress cutting back spending, in spite of Bill's best efforts, and the productivity of the PRIVATE sector.
Hillary claims to have 35 years experience. Experience doing what? Being first housewife and having tea and cookies with the wives of other foreign leaders? She's only been in the senate, what, 4 or so more years than Obama and she's experienced?
You sheep will believe anything she tells you.
Be prepared for Obama camp to scream racism again. Get out your violins.
YES WE CAN!!!! YES WE CAN!!!! YES WE CAN!!!
YES WE CAN ... WHAT?
Tell me what you can do. Don't tell me you can unite the country. It will be great that we can all just get along. But what are you going to do to really help people? "Uniting" the country doesn't pay the bills, protect our borders, give people health insurance and promote our national security. You need real plans, with real numbers, and a real way to pay for them.
are you kidding me? have you seen what she has worked for in the senate for health care? getting family medical leave extended, making sure our soldiers receive proper medical treatment, working to make sure mental illness are covered by health insurance.
like her or not, saying she hasn't done anythign for health care is an uninformed statement.
Obama brings up his anti-war position in 2002 as much as Guiliani used to bring up "9/11" in his campaign. I guess if that's all you have, you have to go with it. He blames those politicians like Hillary who voted to authorize war in 2004. Although I agree with him about the costs of war, let's get real about his stance.
He was not in the Senate at the time of the vote and has said he wouldn't have authorized the war “given the facts as I saw them at that time.” Yet, he defended the pro-war votes of Kerry and Edwards, Democratic candidates in 2004, saying “Well, I think they have access to information that I did not have.” Obama did not criticize any Democrat for voting to authorize the war UNTIL they were his campaign rivals. When he ran for the Senate, he said he would “unequivocally” vote against an additional $87 billion to pay for the war. But since taking office in January 2005, he has voted for billions of dollars of war appropriations.
So, when he could have used his vote to stop the spending, what happened? He's all talk and no substance.
Has anyone seen Bill lately? He had better drum up some votes if he is going to be the next president. Hillary won't be able to do this by herself!
What contributions has Barack given this country? He has no voting record to speak of that is why they want him to go against McCain. The polls have not shown how many Dems will vote for McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket.
"The Clinton years put roses in all our pockets, and food on the table and our children were better cared for thanks to Hillary.
What a short memory we have!!!!"
Nothing wrong with my memory. I remember the recession that started during Clinton's time in office and I also remember how Clinton's foolishness ended up handing the House and the Senate to the Republicans halway through his second term. I remember the first World Trade Center bombing, the bombing of the USS Cole and the Kolbar Barracks bombing and that Clinton treated terrorism as a "legal problem".
I remember how Hillary sat behind closed doors and tried to shove Mandatory Health Care down our thoats and failed. I remeber how she "stood by her man" so that she would have a divorce cloud her future political plans. Oh, and as a NY resident, I remember her promise that "if I'm elected, I will not use my position as a Senator from New York as a stepping stone to the White House".
Nope, nothing wrong with my memory.
Pat:
The poor were just as poor after Bill was in office as they were before. The only difference now is they are poorer after George Bush.
Another thing, if the economy was so wonderful in the 90s, why was the interst rate on my first time home purchase 8.1%? Iwas able to refinance several times after Bush was in office – eventually down to 5.1.
Just because Hillary calls her promises "solutions" does make her any more believable. And If any of her supporters can tell me what all her experience is rather than quoting the "35 years" drivel, then share the results of this experience with me, I'm anxious to hear about it.
You see, the reason Obama has the support is because people who vote for him do their research and don't base the facts on spin, empty "plans" for everything and half-truths.
It's puzzles me how Hillary want to run her campaign on a low coast by imposing debate on Obama who has raised money to do what he does better:One-On-One talk with people.Hillary doesn't debate but come with badly reharsed and memorized sentences kind of:"Health care should be universal and it is a democtrat principle!"...Dame Hillary is "too yesterday"...Go Obama08!
There's a difference between negative campaiging and pointing out the facts. Why is everything that is said in either party considered negative? Can't candidates point out facts and differences amongst them?
I dont want this country to be ruled by dynasties like third world countries – the Clintons and the Bushs. How can we let that happen. The Clintons had their chance. Let history judge their perfromance. Let us have somebody else. I hope not somebody who is overly eager for wars !
gg
WHAT EXPERIENCE OF 35 YEARS DOES HILLARY HAVE? THE ONLY EXPERIENCE SHE HAS IS HANGING ON THE THE COATTAIL OF BILL. –SHE COULDN'T DO A GOOD JOB IN DOING THAT BECAUSE SHE LET MONICA UNZIP HIS ZIPPER-IF SHE WOULD OF DUMPED HIM, I MAY OF VOTED FOR HER, BUT WITH NO MORALS AND COMFORTABLE WITH ADULTERY–IJUST CAN'T HAVE BILL HAVING FREE RUN OF THW WHITE HOUSE AGAIN. SORRY, HILLARY
go Hillary
1) OBAMA is in the business of promises ??
Whats about Hillary promise to increase the minimum wage to $ 9.50
and forbid foreclosures ??
2) What about a European type mandatory universal Healt Care,
where she "forgot" to mention that there it is paid by employers which in turn deduce it from the beneficiaries salaries and even more important, that the deduction is not the real cost of the service, but
an equal percenge of the salary or equivalent for all, making it affordable for all, contrary to what she is proposing ??
Her proposal is not doable nor enforceable and therefore a false promise.
Hey Monty,
Are you Republicans delusional?? I know that you people rightly take joy in seeing democrats fight each other, but are you paying attention to your own party? While the democrats are coming out and voting in force, the republican party is split. Your out-of-touch conservatives will only vote out of reluctance for your nominee. I don't see McCain getting anybody fired up here. Half of your party is going to be so upset that Billy Graham isn't on the ballot that they'll be staying home on election day. The Republicans don't stand a chance this November. The Dems could run a puppet sock up against him and win.
CHARLOTTE your comment makes no sense. There aren't many black people in some of these states. As a woman myself it's comments like these that make me wonder why anyone would choose Hillary! Barack Obama happens to be appealing to white people too. And for the love of god can you people stop hating on Oprah! Just because Hilllary is a woman doesn't mean she gets an automatic endorsement from Oprah or any other woman for that matter!
This is sad, really sad.
YES WE CAN!!!!!!! HILLARY NO YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama is all talk and people are so desperate after the Bush years that they will believe anything positive someone SAYS. How about looking at what Obama has DONE – minimal when compared with Hillary.
The media will not vet this guy, but the republicans will. I did my homework and what I see scares me. NO TRACK RECORD. He uses the same exact rhetoric that Bush used during his first run at the white house "I'll be a uniter, not a divider". Remember, talk is cheap, it's what you do. Obama is an inspirational speaker, not a leader BASED ON HIS MINIMAL RECORD.
I will not vote for Obama under any circumstances and I think the democrats will not win in November if this guy is carrying the banner.
I always was amazed at how Americans could vote Bush into office not once, but TWICE. Watching people fall for Obama's empty promises reminds me how gullible Americans are for pretty words. Obama is just a liberal version of Bush. We will never learn.
as far as health care, she was one of the first peopel to push for health care tracking for 9-11 workers and has pushed the administration to make sure these people are taken care of. She has continually fought for funding for health monitoring for ground zero workers. where were the other candidates on this?
If it took Hillary Clinton 35 years to "find her voice" after the New Hampshire primary, how many years will it take her to find solutions?
I've been listening to some of the promises the quote..."experienced senator has been making and I wonder why hasn't some of these things come about all the time she has been a senator. She's going to make things real ugly b4 this is all over.
Is Obama getting a "promissory notes" signed by the Independents and the Republicans that they will vote the same way (for him) in the general election on November 2008???
OK BILLARY PEOPLE HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO WIN ANOTHER VOTE FOR HILLARY.
Just ONE of you tell me ;
1) What has she done? ( That is ACTUALLY not just what she Claims)
2) Outline her plans IN detail. ( or as much detail as Obama has on HIS web-site) and how they differ from Obamas.
3) Get me the info I need which is the Same info that Obama VOLUNTEERS to me so I know with whom she is in bed with. ( financially)
4) Get it in writing that Bill Clinton will NOT be acting as Co-President and in fact cannot be privy to executive level meetings and decision making. (unless you concede that he IS the reason you are voteing for her)
Do this and I will think again about Hillary Clinton
If you can NOT do this then PLEASE stop the endless BS about her "experience" and ready on Day one BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Hillary supporters are JUST like Hillary ATTACK, Drop one liners, make accusations but post no FACTS. I notice Obama people (most) Post Articles , confirmable stats, and Facts to refute those claims but Hillary people just RANT.
And you wonder why there are so many people jumping ship?
To all Clintonites: Obama DOES have detailed plans, with "real numbers." Please visit his Web site before posting.
Hillary is now desperate. She want to do everything to win just as it was mentioned before. In the history of America, there have not been weekly debates for any presidential election process. Desperacy is killing her.
Obama is scared of debates but he will not allow the Clintons to determine his schedule. She think she is the SUPER LADY that no one can win. She thought Obama was never going to get where he is right now but suprisingly to her, he is doing it.
OUR NEXT PRESIDENT IS OBAMA AND HIS WIFE IS THE NEXT FIRST LADY.
IT IS TIME WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
Hillary is more vague than people claim that Obama is. Obama has become increasingly specific in outlining his plans. People just hear what they want to hear, or don't question whoever they support.
I've voted Democrat my entire life. If Oprah,oh I'm sorry Obama gets the nomination. I will be Voting Republican for the first time. Please can someone tell me what this guy is REALLY saying that is any different, because he has not said a thing. Of course we all want change, and that means we want change from Bush. Politics will never change. What is Obama some kind of svengolly ,that all he has to do is just blab is big mouth and everyone is in this tranz. Wake up people and start acting like smart thinking adults, esp. you 25 and under crowd. Talk about the USA making fools of themselves. Bush is nothing compaired to Obama.
Hillary, first had 'experience' now she has 'solutions', it seems to me as a two term senator if she had solutions, she would talking about results...I guess I am living in a 'fairytale' and just niave, but it sure sounds like her 'solutions' are just 'promises' in disguise. As far as the Iraq war voting to support troops is a whole lot different than voting to go to WAR!!! stupid...Experience..called common sense..a great leader is only as great as his advisors...stupid...Hillary lovers check out Ken of Los Angeles comment. If you want Hillarys' 'EXPERIENCE', think BUSH!!!
Obama's "Yes We Can" means we're hoping it could happen, whereas, Hillary's "Yes We Will" means it will get done.
Hillary is so full of it. "I'm in the solutions business.." so how about that health care initative back in 1993? How is that working for us? How about that vote to support the war? How is that working for us? How about the vote to authorize companies to out source our jobs overseas? How is that working for us? What have you spent the last 35 years doing? I haven't seen any solutions yet. Don't you think we have given you enough time? Time's up.
Obama 2008
OBAMA IS NOT SCARED OF DEBATES
Obama and Clinton – Why can't they both get together and go into this together as a tag team. I think the two together could actually get a lot done. But they are now to busy cutting each other up to even consider the other as a running mate. The guns have been drawn and now we must see who has the quickest draw.
To bad that again, the American people may be the real losers in this thing. We have Iran, China, N. Korea and many more sitting back waiting to see who is victorious and then they will all attack up and what then? Will any of these petty items really matter? We have real dangerous men out there waiting for us to become even more weak. We can't fight a war from all sides – what is ironic is that they are killing us from within. They have bought our land and own us( where do you think the money for that Bush package is coming from – China).
We need to regain our great name, our wonderful land and our dignity. Can either Obama or Clinton promise us that?
America – everyone wants in because they think we are suckers – easy pray – stupid. We need leaders that can return to us our greatness. We were creative, motivating and now who are we? what are we?
Promise me my children will have clean water and that farmers will not have to go bankrupt. Promise me that the old lady down the street will not have to go back to work at Burger King at 80. Promise me that one aspirin in the hospitals will not cost $4. I in turn promise to continue to work hard, fight harder and die to ensure that Americans can vote for one of you guys in 20 years.
Hillary cannot credibily provide solutions for the nation's "economic problems" if she can't accurately monitor her own campaign finances. Thanks, but no thanks.
ummm how about this Hillary:
Clinton had a different attitude during her 2006 Senate primary race, refusing to face off against anti-war primary challenger Jonathan Tasini.
Seeking what happened to war supporter Sen. Joe Lieberman after he lost his primary battle to Ned Lamont, Clinton was not about to share a stage with Tasini.
Asked if she would debate him, Clinton said, "I am campaigning. I've been campaigning hard around the state, having a great time, getting out, seeing a lot of people and we'll have to see how the campaign develops," reported Newsday.
She never agreed to debate him. They never actually ever answered the question about why they wouldn't debate - the campaign kind of just laughed it off.
Then when it came time to face off against a Republican, former Yonkers Mayor John Spencer, Clinton would only agree to two debates - one hour each.
I am a Canadian and I have to tell you that it will take more than four years for America to recapture its place in the world. The media coverage of the election by CNN and MSNBC is simply awful. It is not the candidates fault...but surely something can be done to halt the "ignorant" comments by the analysts. Truly, it is hurting America and the "photograph" is truly harmful!
This Vietnam Veteran is Voting for Obama and I urge all Veterans especially, to Vote for Obama. He is the only one that can change America for the better.
YES WE CAN CHANGE WASHINGTON!!
Go Hillary! Hillary has the experience and the answers..she is tough. Obama is all talk and no action..it's almost like he is afraid to tell us his plans for running the country. I have listened and listened to him preach,because after all that's all you see on cnn. Is the media going to elect the next democratic candidate.. Wake up America this is not the 60's..
I think hillary is struggling w/her campaign...and it's a smart move on barack to NOT participat ein all these debates...he can cover far more ground and reach many many more people by travelling to their cities...why limit himself to a stage. he is obviously making headway and taking votes from her...she's scared and should be~
To all those people who keep saying that Obama voted to support the troops and by default supported the war get real. It is one thing to support the war and another to support the troops. If the decision already been made to send the troops to war. Is it morally correct to send them there with out weapons, food, and supplies? Obama supported the troop, not the war. The funny thing is if he didnt vote to support the troops, that would be used against him. This is a prime example of how people try to twist the truth to make someone look bad. Its sad and thats what Hillary is, sad!!! I point out that Hillary is Sad because she was one of those people who twisted Obama vote to support the troops to make it look like he supported the war. It really upsets me when someone knows the truth and purposely twist it just to make another person look mad. Is that leadership? Is that the leadership this country needs, especially after how the present administration been such a disappointment? Also, to those people who say Obama is full of empty rhetoric and is selling false hope. At this time, we can only hope and have faith that this country can be turned around. Finally, to Obama's refusal to debate Hillary. They debated 18 times already, both canidates platform are on there websites (with specifics (I point out with specifics because some people need to understand when you have 1 hour or even less time at a rally, you can only get so much information out), the only reason why Hillary care to debate so much is because her funds are low and she is trying to get free air time (she basically admitted this because they said that the shake up in the campaign (resignation of campaign managers) were due to the fact that they did not think that Obama would not last past super tuesday (I guess one of her visions for the future was wrong)).
I remember Bill and Hillary in South Carolina mentioning that on Feb 5th the millions will have a voice and it will be in her favor (not quite so). I wonder if the millions voice there opinion not in her favor and the only way she can win is via superdelegate will she do the right thing and not accept the nomination. Honestly, if the pledged delegates is in favor of one canidate (Obama or Clinton) and the superdelegates vote the other way I will be voting McCain and urging other voters to do the same.
I know I said finally already but one last thing, I promise (i will try to keep promise). I am 24 years old and this is the first election that I care to vote in. The reason is because growing up, I felt that Washington could not be trusted, that was until Obama came along, his message and inspiration made me feel that I can finally trust the government to really do what they say they wil do. People need to understand that that is why Obama have such wide support across different demographics, people becasue of Obama is starting to believe that finally they will truly have a voice in a government that claims to be a government by the people.
Thank you to anyone who decided to read what I wrote.
Vote Wisely!!!
I too am an OBAMACAN. I told my wife while watching his speech last night, that I am a "staunch republican" but I like this guy. He does give me hope and there is something human and authentic about him, which CAN NOT be said about Hillary.
How can she trumpet experience, when her campaign has been so obviously mismanaged. How do you run out of money after Iowa and finish third. How do you wait for so long before you change your staff to reflect something different. How do you let a person who was a virtual unknown 8 years ago beat you at every phase of campaigning and management and say that you are the better person for the job just because you have been at it longer?\
Judge it by the effectiveness of the campaigns. If they are an indication as to who would be a better President, with better Ideas and management skills, there clearly is no question.
I am an upstate NY registered republican. Each democratic candidate has their strengths and weaknesses and I'm not sure who I will vote for. BUT it is wrong to say Hillary Clinton has done nothing. For the past 8 years she has fought for jobs and economic development in upstate NY, an area usually ingored by politians who focus more on NYC. So please do not sit and criticize her "negative" ads when you are cluless as to her voting record and efforts as a NY senator.
Sounds like a desperate woman.....
it doesnt reaaaly matter which dem you for taxes are going through the roof so maybe the one with change might be the better choice YES WE CAN
and has anyone followed what she has done in the senate to work to get mental health covered by insurance companies? her work to get veterans proper health care, and her pushing to get FMLA extended...9-11 health care tracking?
liek her or not, she HAS worked for health care!
I am an upstate NY registered republican. Each democratic candidate has their strengths and weaknesses and I'm not sure who I will vote for. BUT it is wrong to say Hillary Clinton has done nothing. For the past 8 years she has fought for jobs and economic development in upstate NY, an area usually ignored by politians who focus more on NYC. So please do not sit and criticize her "negative" ads when you are cluless as to her voting record and efforts as a NY senator.
Change? Sure he is going to change things....I guess a new national anthen and a new flag???
“As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,” Obama said. “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the AMERICAN FLAG is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.”
No veteran should even consider voting for a candidate who feels like this.....what a slap on the face for all of us that have served our country.
To VT Dem:
It is not an issue of race. It is an issue of mission, vision, and honesty. Checkmate! Go Obama!
I agree with some of the earlier posts. Even though you can goto Barack Obama's website and read all about his platform, or goto ontheissues.org, or even do a google search, some people are just too lazy to do the legwork and get all their info from soundbytes (which, inherently, have no info in them).
Perhaps its time for the Senator to start layin it out, point by point, in bullet form so people get the message and this "no substance" nonsense can end. Just give one huge boring speech on all the details. Post it on youtube, and lets be done with this.
I saw Obama's website and solutions about healthcare. CUTTING COSTS. Very dangerous and as a healthcare professional, I am concerned. You should be concerned as a consumer. Also, his so called plan leaves 15 million without healthcare.
Joe from NY, come to Chicago and speak to us about healthcare mess. The corruption on the hospital boards, etc. He used us to get elected (running around and getting the minority vote), and then he won. End of story. He has done nothing. He was too busy planning his presidency as soon as he won this election.
This is so stupid about Obama's words being rhetoric not substance. If it was stupid people voting for Obama, I'd see the point because they just listen to whatever they say. But most college graduates choose Obama. Do you really think he'd have so many educated people follow him if he had no substance. I'm a democrat and I'm so disapointed in Mrs. Clinton, the last thing we need to do is attack each other. I'm now just going to vote for McCain or not vote at all. Just make your case for yourself and let the people decide if they want to vote for you. Let's not tear each other apart. Fellow voters, please just vote for who you think would lead our country don't let these Old Washington Politics try to change your mind.
Obama '08
Regarding Obama's voting to support funding for the war...
If I had the guts to say no to the war prior to invading Iraq, it doesn't mean I wouldn't have voted to fund the troops once Bush and Hilary decided to support the war.
Once we were in, it didn't make sense to pull the funding ASAP.
Once we went in, it didn't make sense to deny funding for our troops. That would have left the troops in Iraq with fewer resources to fight and survive.
You Clinton supporters are far too simplistic in your arguments. It's no wonder she wins the less-educate voters support.
Do your homework and visit both their websites and read up on both candidates to see the details of their policy suggestions.
Speaking of specifics, Obama lays out his economic details almost weekly. They are very similar to Clinton's.
His foreign policy philosophy makes more sense than hers.
The philosophy of her life is to dig in her heals and fight all those who oppose her. Obama is more likely to influence people to support his causes without antagonizing them.
She started using his language about change and stepping across the aisle to work with Republicans only after polls and her campaign wonks told her his message more accurately reflected the philosophy of the people, not her "battle and fight" messages.
It should be interesting to see how she tries to get the Michigan delegates seated when she was the only Dem. on the ballot. She's already going super-negative with ads.
She's disgusting. It looks like she needs some additional money from the pharmaceutical industry to "inject" some life into her campaign again. $800,000 wasn't enough. That's 10x what Obama has received in donations from people connected to or still registered as lobbyists.
I am starting to get amazed at the in-aptitude of so many Obama supporters...they seem to just believe what Obama says...without thinking themselves. Has america really come to this...people who have to be told what's best for them....instead of people deciding what best for themselves and the country. Obama voters have obviously forgotten about the last time we elected a leader with ZERO accomplishments over Al Gore. Seems this same mistake may happen again. So, hopefully, you Obama supporters have money saved up to ride out the next 4 years ? There are only two viable candidates...and that Hillary or McCain. If it ain't Hillary....then this democrat will have to vote for the better man....and that would be McCain. Sorry!
How you act as a candidate ultimately reflects on how you will act as a president. Is this how Hillary will act when her abysmal health care "plan" (Oh, I'm sorry, "solution") fails again?
I am in Ohio and we have taken notice of Hillary's bag of tricks.
OBAMA 08!!
If Hillary is in the solution of business which running a campaign is a business, she has a problem keeping her staff together to run a business. Obama's campaign business is running great and she could learn something from him.
She will NEVER tell us how she will mandate health care.
She will NEVER show us her tax returns
She will NEVER release her WH records but runs on that basis
She will NEVER accept fault for her Iraq while praising J. Edwards since she needs him now.
i was stationed overseas the day president kennedy was killed. my point is we have not seen this kind of clean exciting individual since. i still do not know how a clinton/bush or a bush/clinton ticket can change. wasn't the shame of the clinton years enough when added to 8 years of bush??
Enough twisting of the facts, Sen. Obama.
Hillary has said numerous times that she would call for an end to the tax code incentives given to businesses that ship jobs overseas.
How does Barack plan to enforce his mandate that all children have healthcare? Go after wages? He hasn't even said. Why not??
In Wisconsin today, Barack proposed n plan to improve infrastructure and create green collar jobs, something Hillary has already done. I believe she even introduced a bill and has Senators co-sponsoring it, but I'm not positive. Anyways, to pay for this plan, Barack said the funds would come from ending the war in Iraq.
Is it possible to fund something by ending the war in Iraq? The budget that Bush proposes to Congress every year does not include funding for the war. Ending the war means that we won't go farther into debt. Ending the war does not, however, mean that there will be extra cash on hand to pay for these programs. In other words, if Barack were President, he would have to include these new programs in his proposed budget. There would be no reduction in spending in the budget to account for these new programs. Am I missing something?
What is the difference between forcing you to pay for health care premiuns on your own or face fines and guarnishment, or forcing you by taking them off of your pay cheque as a tax or as a guarnishment of your pay cheque? Any way you look at it you are being forced to pay for something whether you can afford it or not. It iis just more government regulations to be enforced with all the additional costs of enforcement.
Hillary as cold, brash and calculating, then later soft, teary, speeking in a soft voice, seeking sympathy , and poor me. What or who will she be now?
Hillary wants debates because she doesn't have the money to pay for the exposure the debates would get her. Look for other stunts, comments etc. to get her name and face out there by the media without her haveing to pay for it. So far she has done this herself, and she has use Bill Clinton to do this. I guess next it will be her daughter. Oh right she already has used her daughter in a bust up with one of the media outlets already. Claims she may not attend the debate. Don't you believe it. She will be there she can not afford not to.
We Latino's in Texas need to come together and vote obama. I was leaning toward hilary till I see she forced our fellow latino Solis Doyle to step down (fired for all purposes). Is this what we can expect. Hilary giving us Latino voters promises and then when she gets our vote, throwing us to the side because she got what she wanted. We need to come together as Latino's and make a stand. I am voting obama
Dr Feelgood Ma,
I think you may be spending to much time in the desert, and I don't think that's water you're drinking...Let's get REAL here,It is not about experience or age or being to liberal or clarity of position....it is about COLOR...It is hard for some folk to admit that a Black man could have the intellegence to be president..kind of like Head Coach.or.. a quarterback..It would really be shameful if Sen Obama could heal this nation and we were to closed minded to give him a chance, like we are so willing to give to Hillary, Bush, the other clinton, the other Bush and even McCain. the water fountain can be a mirage also, so I say to you and everybody else .....YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!
Why vote for Obama when he vote against increase funding to our troops?
It's a bit disconcerting to know that so many people in this country have such short memory spans. It was just a few weeks ago in their very cordial debate that they both sat there and agreed that they both have plans, and furthermore, that the differences between their respective plans are few. Some of them are significant.
Now, Hillary is going around saying she has plans and Barack's words are just all empty promises? And all her supporters are eating that up? Are they completely ignorant?
Meanwhile, Obama just sticks to stating the differences between their plans. Not only that, but he states them ACCURATELY.
It's no secret who is the career politician, and who is the one who truly is out to make a honest difference in this country.
Read between the lines people. Gullibility got us 8 years of Bush.
GOMEZ, YOU SHOULD NOT LIE, ARE YOU NOT REALLY ASKING PEOPLE NOT TO GO AND NOT TO VOTE FOR HILL ????????? THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME..........GO HILLARY YOU GOT IT GIRL OUR NEXT PRES.......
What is Obama for? Why did he vote against the war? Who will he select to be his administration? Can he produce results in the first two years in office? Let's have some solid facts and answers rather that constant motivational speeches.
A debate would be nice to deal with some of this. The hope, uniting talk is getting old.
Can Obama really claim that the majority of the under 21 support really even knows what he is all about?
I want a President...not a rock star; not a speech giver, and certainly not a old Democrat follower.
Go Hillary!
If Obama is so anti-Washington, why did he win so decisively in the beltway primaries. It seems like the people living in and near the nation's capital really like Senator Obama.
Hilary
You've been in DC too long. You've lost touch with the mood of change in this country. Politics of the past ,and business as usual won't cut it anymore. America want a new broom to sweep the morose of the last 16 years oujt of DC. We want vision, integrity, and most of all...a new leadership/vision.
Also, the American people don't need debates to compare/contrast your byliners versus Obama's, we need/want a new fresh face of change.
HILLARY,HILLARY,HILLARY STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU'RE A LOOSER......PLEASE DON'T GO AWAY MAD, JUST GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!
YES WE CAN!!!!!!
Sen. Obama started his campaign heavily on the details, and everyone complained he was too "professorial" and spoke "over their heads." Okay, he eased it up a bit to connect better, but left his platform promulgated where everyone can read it, and they complain there aren't enough details. Complaining just to complain? If you are waiting for the media to spoon feed all the details to you, it isn't going to happen. Do a little reading and research for yourself instead of parroting sound bytes.
NickNasc, to answer your second question:
2) Outline her plans IN detail. ( or as much detail as Obama has on HIS web-site) and how they differ from Obamas."
Hillary plans are outlined in detail in her website. I am not going to fill this thread detailing them, especially when her website does a much better job than I could. I encourage you to check it out.
To all of the citizens of the United States of America, especially women and Latinos:
Hillary Clinton's argument of experience is nothing more than a red herring argument, and it is an argument that diminishes your right as a U.S. citizen to not only vote but also hold political office.
Her argument implies that if you are not born with the blessings of wealth as has she, then you will never be good enough to hold political office. But many of her supports refuse to understand that Clinton is an elitist and only views you as sheep, sheep to be led and misled, to be used and misused, and to be fools and fooled. Please wake up and stop being manipulated by the Clinton elitist political machine.
What does Hillary have to show for her "35 years of experience". She had her chance to achieve healthcare coverage for all and she failed miserably. She only spent less than a year doing a fellowship for children's advocacy, most of her experience was spent at a corporate law firm in AK. p.s. Plenty of people were in the white house for 8 years, that doesn't qualify them to be our next commander in chief. And most importantly, she never would have been elected to the senate had Rudy Guiliani not dropped out because of his prostate cancer.
I WONDER WHY ANYONE SHOULD GET DISTURB BY HILLARY'S AD. YOU CANNOT STOP A SPANKED CHILD FROM CRYING LOUD. REMEMBER THESE WONDERFUL QUOTE FROM OBAMA:
"THE REAL GAMBLE IS TO HAVE THE SAME OLD FOLKS DOING THE SAME OLD THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND SOMEHOW EXPECT A DIFFERENT RESULT," BARACK OBAMA (1998).
And here is a partial answer to your third question about Hillary's financials, NickNasc:
Hillary had to disclose her financials as a Senator. It is there for you to peruse.
Hey Bobby W
Nothing wrong with your memory. Mine may be slipping, wasn't it Bill Clinton responsible for Nafta and free trade. Now look where the jobs are going India, China, Thailand.
Signs of desperate measures. Will she bring out the CLAWS if she elected to the White House? This would be very belittling for the American people. other countries would look at our country and give us no respect.
Thisis revealing a lack of integrity. You go negative when losing. The rules are changed based upon what's needed to win. Who are you really Hillary?
And finally, as to your fourth question, NickNasc.
"4) Get it in writing that Bill Clinton will NOT be acting as Co-President and in fact cannot be privy to executive level meetings and decision making. (unless you concede that he IS the reason you are voteing for her)"
Obviously none of us can get this in writing, so I have a feeling you are already an Obama supporter. But I will say that I am voting for Hillary to be our next President. Her husband's incite is helpful, but he cannot and will not run the country. That would be her job. Michelle is one strong woman. I don't hear you saying that you want to make sure that she doesn't run the show.
Here is my question for Hillary supporters who claim EXPERIENCE should be a determining factor for who we choose for president: if Hillary gets the nomination, will you vote for McCain over her in November? Because he certainly has more experience. So if you say no, why? Is it because you think Hillary has better JUDGMENT than McCain? Hillary has really backed herself into a corner here. She has no platform to run against McCain at all. Think about it!!
what has she done for healthcare?
as a reservist i can now thank her for my heathcare covereage that i was entitled to before! and my wife can family take medical leave when our child is born... these are things that she championed!
does CNN officially support Obama? if so, be explicit, please!
If Obama is elected president couldn't he just *buy* staff to put around him so that he is well experienced in the nature of being president? Quite honestly I can't imagine one person having the intelligence to run a country with no one else to help him.
As a paralegal student, I am in awe of Obama's intelligence. To be the president of the Harvard Law Review is no easy task. He is blessed with intelligence, charisma and leadership. People should really look at that. I am voting for him, I am a Republican, and I am in my late thirties. He's simply amazing. I never loved politics til Obama marched across my TV and internet screens!
Hilliary really need the debates once a week more than Obama. She's low and cash and need the free air time. Also, Hilliary knows that Obama don't like to twist the truth and get down and dirty with a lady. I would seem ungentlemanly. Why she might even cry again for more effect.
FELLOW DEMOCRATS,
Please do not let this campaign divide our party. WE MUST STAY FOCUSED–THERE ARE TWO SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SEATS UP FOR THIS PRESIDENCY. Vote for who you want in the primary, and if they lose, lick your wounds and support the one who wins. WE CANNOT AFFORD MCCRAZY IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!! HE IS A 71 YEAR OLD MAN WHO HAS NOT TRIED TO LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT THE ECONOMY–HE JUST WANTS TO GET US INVOLVED IN CONFLICTS AND REPEAL ROE V WADE. HILLARY,SUPPORTERS OBAMA SUPPORTERS -DO NOT LET THEM TAKE OUR COUNTRY INTO FULL DARKENESS!!!!!!!!!!
The other day a Hillary supporter mentioned the same thing to me - that Obama doesn't offer any concrete plans. And then I asked her what were Hillary's specific plans. Silence ensued.
Look, they both have ideas, some good, some not so good. If you're actually curious about the specifics, go to their respective websites and READ their positions. But Hillary is silly to think that her stump speech offers any more substance that does Obama's.
to be honest hillary is main source for GOP fundraising they already have millions of dollars invested in items that mock hillary clinton cry baby shirt for president ........etc......hillary and obama no big difference on issues except that obama is in better position and more leadership standing and i wont be surprise if he win in nov by a landslide over MR MCCAIN
vote smart vote obama
American are so naive! True, Obama is a inspirational speaker, hopes, future, one country, etc..... I believe most American has fallen on the same track as four and eight years ago, when Mr. Bush was telling us change, unite, etc..... Look what we ended up today after American chose him..... What a joke and how short American memory are.... If people don't wake up from those inspiring empty words before the election, trust me, in four years, we will feel the same way as we do today!!!
Where are the voices of the voters from Michigan and Florida? After the many years it took for Black Americans and Women to win the right to vote, don’t you want your votes to count? If I lived in one of those states I would be mad as hell. The DNC does not have the right to take your votes away from you, STAND UP and be counted!! By the way Florida, Obama said your votes don’t matter!!
"It is time for us all to stand and cheer for the doer, the achiever – the one who recognizes the challenges and does something about it."
We need answers not speeches. We need more debates not rhetoric. Democrats need Hillary not Obama – if we want the White House back.
dan
I am so sick of the condescending attitude of you obama supporters. We believe that hillary is the best person for this job and no she did not serve tea and cookies while in the white house and that fact alone got her in trouble. She demanded a real place in the west wing and she had one-come on do a little reading and expand that little mind of yours. Good luck if obama pulls this out-hope you aren't of draft age!
BEWARE, the Pied Piper, a divided nation canot stand.
A second thought–to the Latinos living in TX/Ohio. Hilary is not telling anyone anything new. Look close; she wants your support yet she has delivered zero. He husband 8 years ago. Her rhetoric is the rhetoric of Bill's presidency; nothing new; just packaged differently. As citizens, we see a need/mood for new substance, nerw leadership; but the biggest obsticle that has ty be overcome is the Clinton's political machine...but that too is running out of steam. I haven't voted Democrat in the last 3 elections but i will vote in 09 for Barack Obama!
This is a very exciting time in the history of our country. The message that I have heard from the Obama camp is one of unification that reaches beyond partisan lines and embraces that which this country is built on. The Clinton camp speaks of experience and the capacity to fight the good fight against party driven agendas that inevitably continue to disenfranchise the most challenged groups of this nation. We should be celebrating that we live in an era where either a man of color or woman could potentially lead this country into a new era...One that is a true represent of the intentions of our forefathers, "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal..." I really hope Hilary does not opt or continue to engage in attack politics. Such efforts would decisively shove this undecided voter right into the Obama camp without a second thought.
Sounds like Obama is not only going negative and not telling the truth either.
I must say I'm really amused by some of the Obama supporters who say we don't need debates to compare/contrast the candidates. Why all we need to know he is a fresh face and promises change and hope. Then why don't we all just vote for Oprah? She is not a Washington insider, she was probably against the war in Iraq from the beginning, she manages a large business and is very successful, and very wealthy. Plus that she has world wide recognition and could be the first woman President. Come of people, go a little deeper than a fresh face and change.
THANKS RO FOR NOTING HOW EVERYBODY SAID OBAMA SOUNDED TOO MUCH LIKE THE PROFESSOR HE WAS BY DETAILING PLANS ON TOWN HALL MEETING. WHERE IS THAT EXCITING GUY WHO GAVE THE KEYNOTE SPEECH AT THE DNC IN 04. GUESS WHAT? HE'S BAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKK.
It is about time that people stop dreaming. I understand that Obama wants to bring changes. What changes. His speeches have no substance. Changes....on the stage with Kennedy, Kerry etc....Those guys are looking for promotions and they will tell him what to do. Please American People wake up. Hillary is not perfert put she has experience and she know what she is talking about. If Obama is chosen there will be a a lot of regrets....because he is simply not ready.
Olga Gardiner
HAHA!
Hillary will win Texas in a landslide – win Ohio and win Pennsylvania. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see her pull out Rhode Island, Vermont, Wisconsin and Hawaii.
There is no way in hell Obama will beat McCain. Hillary can but Obama cannot.
Only Democrats will find a way to screw up their chances this election term and they did it. Obama is such a WEAK candidate. I can't wait to see the Dems get their behinds kicked!
OBAMA, TRY TELL A VETERAN WHO WAS CAPTIVE FOR YEARS ABOUT "HOPE". While you were in your diapers "Hoping", he served our country honrably.
TERRORISTS WON'T BE INSPIRED BY YOUR HOPE PAL!
JOHN MCCAIN 2008! (Only Hillary can beat him, but the Dems are far too dumb for that – that is evident by them electing Obama).
HILLARY for PRESIDENT!!!!!
I cannot believe the unfaireness that I see!
As newspapers endorse candidates so do networks and no doubt that CNN has endorsed Obama cause they have done nothing but tear that candidate (Hillary Clinton) apart every chance they get, in such ridiculous ways too 
I am truly dissapointed in the lack of professionalism.
The key point…what you and everyone like you seems to miss is that Senator Obama NEVER SUPPORTED THE WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE. Now as a soldier and someone that has been deployed to IRAQ, I can understand and appreciate why he voted to keep the war funded. We were already in deep S&*T over there and to support the Men and Women of this country that were over there giving their lives he had to vote for the continued funding of the war. Senator Obama didn't want us over there, but once we were, he supported US, the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces. Did you? Is there anyone you know personally that served or died in IRAQ? If so you can thank Hillary. There's no way you would have wanted any of your family members over there with no support from their country?
And when Senator Obama is President you and all the doubters will see a CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, BECAUSE A CHANGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN WASHINGTON AND IT WILL NOT BE BUSINESS AS USUAL IN WASHINGTON. That's a guarantee.
OBAMA SUPPORTERS LET ME HEAR A "YES WE CAN"
Hope and Change...All we hear from Obama. His age, lack of experience and his voting record, or lack of, says plenty. Do we really want to have another trainee in the White House? Obam is an excellent speaker, people need to look at the whole picture.
SlapStick, Florida February 13th, 2008 3:41 pm ET
Signs of desperate measures. Will she bring out the CLAWS if she elected to the White House? This would be very belittling for the American people. other countries would look at our country and give us no respect.
Excuise me? CLAWS? What a double standard! Would you be using such words if she was a MAN?
As a third year law student here in Boston I can tell you with certainty that becoming president of Harvard Law Review is the same kind of beauty contest that Obama is waging now. There are plenty of exceptionally talented law students who don't even get on law review who are better legal scholars and writers.
Its about how close you are to the faculty advisor and how many people you can convince to vote for you. That process rarely involves substance.
Don't be fooled.
It's very simple: if you want the specifics of Obama's plans, you can see them on his web site. Obama understands a very basic principle that Hillary misses, namely that in speeches, inspiring people to action is the most important goal. She claims that giving speeches that aren't college lectures on the details of his economic plans make him unqualified for office. She says this because that's the only kind of speech she knows how to give and she lacks the ability to inspire. This blather that she's smarter, etc., because her speeches have more specifics about her plans is ridiculous. It's just a difference in campaign style and it's becoming clear which is more effective.
Her health care plan, while laudable, is only different from Obama's in that it forces every American to buy health care. Obama prefers to put the emphasis on lowering premiums so everyone can buy it. Under Obama's plan, some people won't be covered, it's true, but why is that? It's because they're not being forced and their wages aren't being garnished. Why should we care that those people aren't covered? If they have every opportunity to do it and it's affordable and they choose not to buy it, why is that so terrible?
And as for this CNN favoring Obama line of argument, it's pure nonsense. I don't see how anyone watching Super Tuesday coverage with pundit after pundit talking about how well Clinton was doing, how she was the front-runner, etc., could sensibly claim that CNN favors Obama. If anything, it was the other way around. They're beginning to see, though, that most people want to hear about Obama, as he's far more interesting, so he's getting more coverage. If Clinton supporters are upset that he's getting more coverage, perhaps she should try to win some primaries in smaller states and get the air time that comes to the primary winners rather than bickering about a bias that isn't there.
HRC is a rabid socialist that would mandate everything if she could. And her plan for mandating universal healthcare is to garnish wages?
HRC would also need a bigger government to manage her socialized (er...mandated) plans. And that means higher taxes (or garnished wages) to pay for more government workers. We all know more government workers are the solution to our problems.
Got a problem? Throw more government at it. Isn't the government just so good at solving problems and being thrifty?
What a joke. How many trillions did Bush request to manage the current government? All these politicians do is take more money to support the ever growing number of way they find to waste it.
A vote for HRC is not a vote for change, but a vote for more of the same.
I am not sure yet what the new candidates clinton nor Obama`s platform is, but one thing for sure, I am glad that the American politics finally becoming fair ground to the able elites regardless of gender and race as qualification factor. What is more shocking to me is that Obama wining the hearts and minds of historicaly conservative region of the south. Indeed, this changing political spectrum telling me, the greateness and glowing of America is a head of us.
Dr. Feelgood...Clinton lies about campaign contributions...there's a long track record of it...(just google it) Obama does not...Clinton has no better plan for HealtCare than the same one that failed in the '90's...Obama has proven in Illinois that he will get folks, especially children insured...Clinton voted in favor of the war...OBAMA DID NOT! Why do you think our economy is in this mess? Because of all the so called experience...that's why...you take a drink of water...and stop drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid!
Mike,
Come on and join the Movement my friend.
That war statement comes directly from Karl Rove. When Bush's war in Iraq began to fail, Republicans started blaming the Democrats who voted for the joint resolution.
The resolution called for the use of force as a last resort, and after Bush went to the UN and got authorization. Bush broke the law you claim Hillary voted for!
When will Obama supporters tell the truth? Oh yeah if you were honest you wouldn't BE an Obama supporter.
And you might want to look at Michelle Obama's financial records if you want to see where Obama's lobbyist and corporate support is coming from.
The media today rips Hillary constantly but leaves Obama alone! This is something I don't understand. Obama didn't vote for the war because he wasn't there!! And if he was, he probably would've voted PRESENT!!! If Obama gets the nom, the republicans are going to have a field day. All the polls show that McCain will lose to Obama, but don't be so sure. He has endured nothing compared to what will happen because McCain and the republicans will be on the attack. Hillary can keep the country safe but Barack has no foreign policy. He wouldn't be a horrible president after some more experience. He could be Hillarys VP.