February 16th, 2008
11:00 AM ET
10 years ago

Obama spot criticizes Clinton for "same old politics"

New Wisconsin ad from the Obama campaign

New Wisconsin ad from the Obama campaign

(CNN) – Barack Obama’s campaign launched a television ad critical of Hillary Clinton Saturday in Wisconsin, the fourth negative spot between the two Democratic presidential campaigns in the past four days.

The ads have all centered around Obama’s decision not to debate Clinton in the state before the primary vote on Tuesday. The Clinton spots have tied that decision to what it says are flaws in Obama’s stands on issues like health care and Social Security. Obama’s team has made similar charges about Clinton’s positions, and defended the Illinois senator’s decision.

“After 18 debates, with two more coming, Hillary says Barack Obama is ducking debates? It's the same old politics,” says the announcer in “Same Old Politics,” criticizing the New York senator’s proposal for universal health care and praising Obama’s position on retirement benefits and ending tax breaks for oil companies.

“Tired of the same old politics? Vote for change we can believe in,” says the announcer in the 30-second spot.

On Wednesday, Hillary Clinton’s campaign unveiled the race’s first negative spot in Wisconsin, criticizing Obama for not agreeing to more debates.

Obama’s campaign struck back the next day with an ad that responded to Clinton’s, calling the original spot an instance of "the same old politics of phony charges and false attacks." On Friday, Clinton’s campaign debuted another ad, a response to what it called “false attacks” in the Obama spot.

Wisconsin's voters head to the polls next Tuesday, February 19.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. Kevin

    Denying voters a voice in Florida. Sounds like Obama is engaging in the same old politics to me. Reminds me of Bush in 2000.

    February 16, 2008 01:20 pm at 1:20 pm |
  2. s.positive


    February 16, 2008 01:38 pm at 1:38 pm |
  3. Deb IL

    "Tired of the same old politics? Vote for change we can believe in".

    This is the "same old" answer he has given to everything since Iowa. This is what a lot of us are tired of. TELL US WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO Senator, and stop throwing out repetitive one liners over and over again. Without Kennedy around to mentor him though, I guess he just sticks with what he knows.

    February 16, 2008 01:39 pm at 1:39 pm |
  4. Scott

    Give it up Hillary!! You had 8 years to make Universal Health Care happen. You were the Czar remember. You failed because you can't seperate youself from those that fund your Campaign. You are a double talking worst kind of two faced politician there is. By the way WalMart works the majority of thier employes just under 40 hours a week so they are not required by law to provide Health Care. Was that one of your ideas when you sat on the Board? If Hillary wins the nomination I will vote for John McCain. And that would in my mind be the leaser of two evils!! GOOOOOOOOO Obama!!

    February 16, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  5. aware

    Hillary the HOPE of 08 🙂

    Barack demonstrates the kind of change I hope we don’t fall for in America – the FOOL the people with sugar instead of vinegar change – He is as smooth as honey and just as sticky. He will say anything to win but he doesn't have the goods! He is a very sneaky partisan politician. He uses the velvet dagger, prevarication, and even plagiarism to color his rhetoric. He also changes his story when it suits his cause – such as funding in the general….

    If you want a sweet tongued manipulator rather than someone who will give you the goods and provide real solutions, vote for Barack.

    February 16, 2008 01:41 pm at 1:41 pm |
  6. Rob,NC

    It's a shame that Obama has no choice but to launch counter attack ads. I guess Hillary wants to believe that negative ads really do work. If that's the case then America is not ready for a progressive candidate like Obama.

    I really hope people in Wisconsin realize that they have hahd 18 debates already. Is that not enough? Please realize this is just Hillary's style and a cheap way to get free air time.

    Hillary is desperate, so she will resort to what she and Bill do best, go negative. This type of behavior doesn't make anyone look good and forces Obama to get into a he said, she said battle. Hopefully voters realize that, and will just give Obama big victories in WI, OH, and TX and put the nail in Hillary's coffin once and for all, and allow us to focus on an Obama-McCain matchup.

    February 16, 2008 01:42 pm at 1:42 pm |
  7. That's Reality

    Obama speaks of "change" but why would anyone vote for "change" when we don't know what on earth that "change" would be? At this point , with the treat of more terrorism always looming, we need someone who has experience and is willing to get some people "angry" if that's what it takes to protect this nation. I'm not sure Obama wouldn't cave to the terrorists or even (by his inexperience and policy "changes") encourage the terrorists to strike again. We NEED experience in the Oval Office. The most important issue at hand is stopping terrorists. What good is a flourishing economy or health care if terrorists come and blow us to smitherings?

    Vote for experience and Integrity – McCain/Huckabee

    February 16, 2008 01:43 pm at 1:43 pm |
  8. lro

    it is not the old same politics. To me – and I believe to many others – the more I know the better I can decide. If Obama is cutting the debates, it makes me think that he :
    a) does not know what to say
    b) is hiding something
    c) does not want to talk because then people would open eyes and see him in the right light
    d) it is arrogant, I wonder if he would say the same to a man candidate

    February 16, 2008 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  9. edaddison

    Hillary is insulting the voter's intelligence by trying to turn the truth with mere rhetoric. Let's look at the obvious. Hillary campaigned in Ohio all week because her funds are low and she can't afford to campaign in Wisconsin too without jeopardizing her precious firewall in Ohio. Hence she is telling Wisconsin voters they are not important as sghe did in 8 states for Super Tuesday. Obama, of course knows this. Hillary's desire for yet another debate in Wisconsin was an attempt to get free advertising in Wisconsin because she can't afford to campaign there herself (see above). Obama declines because he IS campaigning in Wisconsin. This is political chess. Hillary made the queen's gambit and Obama put her in check. Hillary's moves this week are signs of increasing desperation.

    February 16, 2008 01:45 pm at 1:45 pm |
  10. Sherri

    I read Obama's book and I SEE him use the very methods he spoke against in his book. He yells "same ole politics" and then does it himself? The more I learn of him the less I am impressed. I thought at one time he was sincere but as this goes on I realize he is just like them all.

    February 16, 2008 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  11. mary

    My comment I made had was about "change". When Obama ends the war in Iraq in 60 days will our Country be safer? Will the innocent people in Iraq by safer? Where will the terroist go? or will they stay in Iraq and build up their army? Will the terrorist attack us in our Country? Will "change" that Obama preaches about help out people losing their homes? losing jobs? keep our Nation safer? Will he get rid of the old Washington Politicians (he says he doesn't want to keep with the old) and replace them with new people? Will all the college students that are bonding with him be replacing all the Old Washington gang? Will I even have as much in life that I have now?

    February 16, 2008 01:49 pm at 1:49 pm |
  12. K.K.

    Well Obama had no choice but to strike Clinton back. He is right about one thing. It is totally ludicrous to think that 18-20 debates are not enough. Look, we cannot have a debate per every state. Will she do anything to win this election? I cannot believe I convinced my uncle to vote for Clinton in NH. A shame.

    February 16, 2008 01:50 pm at 1:50 pm |
  13. Juven

    I have been undecided in this democratic primaries, whats making me decide? Simple, Hillary Clinton is running for herself, as if the presidency belong to her and nobody deserves it more than she does. Why, because shes bill clintons wife?, she is not bill clinton and the presidency is not a crown that you place in a family member head.
    Instead Barack Obama is running on the movement that is deploying around him. Whith the people for the people. Im glad this is happening now, again I can believe that it is possible to get the best of us, that we can be up to extraordinary things no matter we are ordinary people.

    February 16, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  14. seth

    It does seem like the same old attacks. HC has had 18 debates with Obama ( and others included). She has yet to go to wisconsin as a canidate also.


    February 16, 2008 01:51 pm at 1:51 pm |
  15. E. J. Forrest

    How quickly we forget that President Bill Clinton showed the world how much he cared for his wife and daughter when having an affair with an intern at the White House. Do we really want his wife in the White House after tolerating this type of behavior? Makes one wonder will she buckle and run with her tail between her legs in a case when our nation needs her to stand up and speak out against the wrong and unjust, as she did when publicly humiliated by her Husband, or will she grow a spine, walk upright and do the right thing for the American people.

    February 16, 2008 01:52 pm at 1:52 pm |
  16. Malc

    Not true. These are entirely new dynamics on both sides. The cover of the latest Ebony magazine bellows, "In our Lifetime!".

    Just remember next year (and hopefully the next eight years), that this is our moment, and not yours. I think any thoughts of the republican attack machine having an effect once he is nominated, will be futile.

    This is a movement, and as the great Sam Cooke said "...change is gonna come...". No longer limited to just being the best athletes, musicians, or entertainers, now the free world must recognize its leader. Yes, we will be in the white House, but this time, not serving anybody.

    February 16, 2008 01:53 pm at 1:53 pm |
  17. BobW

    Go Obama! Hillary has made a tactical mistake thinking you are just going to take her dirty attacks without comment.

    February 16, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  18. Markus Wichmann

    Obama has been using an awful lot of rhetorical tricks to catch the feelings of people and get them behind him. The "same old politics" trick makes use of the tendency not to separate the wheat from the chaff, when there is a bad situation people want to get rid of. Same with the "Washington" rhetoric. Is it really the Washington style of politics which created the mess America is in now, or was it the Bush administration who did that? Obama fans are throwing the baby out with the bath water, I'm afraid.

    Markus Wichmann (Berlin / Germany – please apologize my german style English.)

    February 16, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  19. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    The Clintons are desperate to stop the Obama train and take no responsibility for derailing their own campaign. False accusations the Clintons are making don't get votes and Obama is not responding in the negative way they want, he's sticking to the issues. Obama knows it's in the interest of voters that he stick to the issues and let the Clintons continue to play their petty little games. Obama is simply the best.

    February 16, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  20. Henry

    Who are these Independent voters? The majority of Democrats (actually nearly 2/3 of Democrats) vote for Hillary Clinton over Barrack Hussein Obama. However, the Independent voters change all that. Why are we allowing Independent voters vote in Democrat's Primary. These Independent voters could be Republicans behind the scene trying to mess up the Democrats. Obviously, those who registered as Democrats are heavily leaning towards Hillary Clinton (please check and keep checking national polls regarding registered Democrats). The Independent voters are really taking away what true Democrats want. The Independent voters should be allowed to vote only their own Independent Primary. If Democrats are allowed to vote in Republican's Primary, what do you think the Democrats will do?

    February 16, 2008 01:54 pm at 1:54 pm |
  21. Joan

    I'm glad Obama is hitting back. The Clinton smear machine is really despicable and dishonest.

    The Clintons will truly say and do ANYTHING to win!!!!!!

    p.s. She is the reason we don't have health care today. Because of her miserable failure in 1993. Thanks for nothing!

    February 16, 2008 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  22. Terry

    Perhaps someone should ask Obama about the front page of whitehouse (dot) com

    The media has been ignoring this story for over a month but there is one place that has broken the story as of yesterday. They had to courage to step up.

    February 16, 2008 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  23. James

    What is Obama so scared of? Obama has never been specific on anything he says. He doesn’t want to do a debate because he knows he is going to lose. NOBODY knows where he stands. He doesn’t want to answer any questions we have. We need solutions, not rhetoric. Obama supporters, you all need a wakeup call. You all are so blind and you are being manipulated.

    February 16, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  24. maya

    This is what I don't get- All the buzz about Hillary's first "negative" ad (everyone jumping on the bandwagon saying- "there she goes" and "dirty tricks"–serious over reactions to a pretty tame "negative" ad) and yet Obama has very smoothly been attacking Hillary from the very beginning. He has been labeling her as "divisive" and "same old politics" while promising "change" and "hope." Let's get real- in order to build himself up,he has always been cutting her down and actually even attacking her character. Just because he is more of a smooth politician,doesn't make him any cleaner (and makes him less trustworthy in my mind!)

    February 16, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
  25. frank

    i am a long time liberal, and vote more then not democrate, but with obama, if selected i am voting republican

    February 16, 2008 01:57 pm at 1:57 pm |
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