February 16th, 2008
11:00 AM ET
10 years ago

Obama spot criticizes Clinton for "same old politics"

New Wisconsin ad from the Obama campaign

New Wisconsin ad from the Obama campaign

(CNN) – Barack Obama’s campaign launched a television ad critical of Hillary Clinton Saturday in Wisconsin, the fourth negative spot between the two Democratic presidential campaigns in the past four days.

The ads have all centered around Obama’s decision not to debate Clinton in the state before the primary vote on Tuesday. The Clinton spots have tied that decision to what it says are flaws in Obama’s stands on issues like health care and Social Security. Obama’s team has made similar charges about Clinton’s positions, and defended the Illinois senator’s decision.

“After 18 debates, with two more coming, Hillary says Barack Obama is ducking debates? It's the same old politics,” says the announcer in “Same Old Politics,” criticizing the New York senator’s proposal for universal health care and praising Obama’s position on retirement benefits and ending tax breaks for oil companies.

“Tired of the same old politics? Vote for change we can believe in,” says the announcer in the 30-second spot.

On Wednesday, Hillary Clinton’s campaign unveiled the race’s first negative spot in Wisconsin, criticizing Obama for not agreeing to more debates.

Obama’s campaign struck back the next day with an ad that responded to Clinton’s, calling the original spot an instance of "the same old politics of phony charges and false attacks." On Friday, Clinton’s campaign debuted another ad, a response to what it called “false attacks” in the Obama spot.

Wisconsin's voters head to the polls next Tuesday, February 19.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

soundoff (88 Responses)
  1. curtis in WI

    Why is Clinton suddenly so eager to debate Obama in WI. She wasn't eager in any other state. Could it be because she is losing and short of money and a debate costs her nothing for a lot of free airtime and publicity?

    He's already debated you 18 times and there are two more already scheduled. Hardly showing cowardice, there.

    February 16, 2008 01:58 pm at 1:58 pm |
  2. Bean Counter, Motor City, MI

    How does this guy continue to get away with this? Same old politics? HIs campaign has routinely bashed Hillary and the Bush administration.

    I HOPE this guy goes away soon.

    February 16, 2008 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
  3. andy

    when Clinton says something about Obama CNN says she is attacking, but when its Obama doing the attacking CNN uses words like he is knocking her or critizing her, why this difference in language. could the be a little bias there, it appears to be that way, i thought cnn had the best political team on tv, they wouldn't ruin that reputation by favoring one of the other.

    February 16, 2008 01:59 pm at 1:59 pm |
  4. boniba

    Washington is the same old thing. Sometimes you get things done along bipartisan basis and sometimes along partisan basis. That is the reality MR BARACK. Maybe you need to be President of a nation that does not exist – United States of OBAMA!!!!

    February 16, 2008 02:00 pm at 2:00 pm |
  5. gene

    Obama does not do well in debates. Contrary to the media's love affair with Obama, its hard for them to spin something that we are seeing and hearing, Hillary has beat him in every debate and that is why he is trying to limit the number of debates. He gives a great speech, which are very inspirational, but they say little to nothing.

    February 16, 2008 02:02 pm at 2:02 pm |
  6. maya

    *My second attempt to post*
    This is what I don't get- Obama has been continually negative towards Hillary. Let's get real- in order to build himself up,he has been cutting her down (calling her "divisive" and "same old politics") right from the beginning. He has been essentially attacking her character, he's just very smooth in how he does it. Amazing how he has twisted everything- and now to call this tame ad- "Same Old Politics"- Give me a break!!!

    February 16, 2008 02:02 pm at 2:02 pm |
  7. Darryl From Arlington TX

    Let keep jobs for the US workers not send them over seas

    February 16, 2008 02:02 pm at 2:02 pm |
  8. Scott

    What I see is Hillary Clinton very desperate......and showing her true colors as a Clinton.

    February 16, 2008 02:02 pm at 2:02 pm |
  9. Adam

    Isn't voting in favor of a 2005 energy bill that gave nearly $6 billion in subsidies to oil companies who aren't struggling in the least considered the same old politics? A bill the new york times deemed to be the summation of all possible lobbies considered the same old politics? Hmm...

    I don't recall Hillary supporting this special interest cause. But then again, I guess this is the kind of man who is going to bring change. His message may be new, but historically, his record reflects nothing remotely close to it. He's all talk and no action.

    February 16, 2008 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  10. ho tc

    “After 18 debates, with two more coming..."

    How many 1-on-1 debates did Obama have with Clinton? ONE!!!
    COME ON!

    Obama's messages are always misleading.

    February 16, 2008 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |
  11. Jeff an Independent

    Like he says, he may be skinny – but if need be, he's tough.

    Take him on with fear and trembling.

    February 16, 2008 02:04 pm at 2:04 pm |


    February 16, 2008 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  13. Howard Jackson

    Obama has shown Hillary much respect, and I would be very disappointed to see a hostile, character smearing debate between these qualified candiates there is too much at stake to throw it all down the drain just for a win.
    Hope deferred makes the heart sick but when the desire cometh, it is a tree of life.! All of our careers and lives has been built on hope and desire. Wouldn't you agree?

    February 16, 2008 02:05 pm at 2:05 pm |
  14. Grif


    February 16, 2008 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  15. Don

    Obama is right. 18 debates and 2 more on the way is enough. Just cause it's not when it's when Hillary wants it he makes it an issue. She should talk given how she ducked debates in her own Senate elections up in New York, and it’s all about free airtime for her. Just like she dismissed all the Caucus States Obama won, though not complaining about the ones she won, and it’ the same with the debates. She goes after him in 2 debates about how he doesn’t have mandates in his Health Care Plan and hers does but when asked several times how her mandates will be enforced or what’s the punishment for violating her mandates she won’t answer. She rather we focus on that then what one her advisors said about the state Obama won being insignificant. Missouri, Virginia, Maryland, Maine, Delaware, and all the others states he won, including red states she should want to win.

    Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton? Same one, same old.

    February 16, 2008 02:06 pm at 2:06 pm |
  16. Jake, California

    Hillary, you are brook we all know it. And you want to get free publicity by having debates EVERY OTHER WEEK.

    Hillary, people in this country are smarter than every little cheap trick you come up with.

    You are not the chairwoman of the Democratic party to be making up rules. Why didn't you call for weekly debates when things were fine? And if Obama doesn't agree to your request you want to force him to do so? Hillary you are ridiculous...and that's how you are going to lose miserably.

    We have debated 18times with you, now that's a lot of time for people to listen to the issues. We'll debate with you again in Texas and Ohio....what more do you want? Stop being greedy!

    February 16, 2008 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  17. observer#1

    Same old politics, yes, from you , Obama. I understand you would like to cut social security payments and again raise retirement age. Yeah, we can work until we're 80! Oh, let's not forget the new taxes we will get from you.

    February 16, 2008 02:09 pm at 2:09 pm |
  18. Ron

    Mr. Obama,

    The same old politics of Clinton years in the White House kept America secure, it kept America out of Wars and importantly, brought America great economic achievements like lowest unemployment rates (only 4%!!) in decades and very low interest rates with little inflation. And America was loved by the world then.

    I will choose that "old politics" prosperity any day over your new politics.

    February 16, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  19. Jon

    Why is it called an "attack ad" when Hillary Clinton runs an ad on TV but when Obama does THE SAME THING, it's called a TV "spot"?

    February 16, 2008 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  20. RJB2

    This is not criticism...sorry that the truth hurts

    Is there anyone in America who really thinks that the
    Clinton's do not represent the "Same Old Politics"
    Also known as "Divide and conquer"

    February 16, 2008 03:13 pm at 3:13 pm |
  21. mike

    Hey Obama, that line is getting a little old....are you capable of a new one?

    February 16, 2008 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  22. Dora

    How would he know about old politics, he HAS NOT been around that long. And voting present is not a stand on anything.

    February 16, 2008 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  23. vivian

    the Clintons are deseparate and are doing, saying and making accusations to the best of their ability. Three of them campaigning their hearts out, Chelsea, Hillary and Bill. They are so afraid of losing the white house.Well, I am really tired of Bushes and Clintons using the white house as a revolving door. They sure seem very similar to the Saudi Kings, they keep their country ruled by family members. The white house is not a revolving door and I sick and tired of the same families going through it. By the way, Hillary said at one of her speeches, " it took a Clinton to clean up after the first Bush and it's gonna take another clinton to clean up after the second bush"... well guess what, not to defend the Bushes, but what is fair is fair. It seems like the second bush cleaned up after clinton also. How about the mess he left undone when he totally ignored the 1993 explosion in the world trade center. He had every reason and the means to take Usama out back then, but he left him untouched until the second Bush was in office and 9/11 happened. So, what are we to expect, just Clintons and bushes cleaning up after each other and we sit here waiting for our goverment to address our issues? I hope that we all wake up and smell the coffee. No more clintons, no more buishes please!!!!! I believe that Obama has every reason to make the biggest difference not only because he is about change. He is Change! he inspires people who have been totally uninspired, he motivates people who cared less about our election in the past decade or so. He has more reasons to show the world and America that he will leave not only America in a better place but the world as a whole. He is planting seeds of hope that will blossom in our future generations like no one else can. He is spreading the hope across America and the world. That is what we need! As he says, "speeches aloneare not enough" well, let's give him the opportunity to take the action behind his speeches. Please give him a chance and let's not go back to another clinton. I don't think I can handle another term of old blood.

    February 16, 2008 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  24. Steve OR

    Okay, CNN, you did it again. Distorting the facts. All major candidates names were on the ballot in Florida. In fact, in defiance of a pact among the candidates to NOT campaign in Florida, Obama ran ads there in the week or so leading up to the primary. None of the other candidates did. When Hillary won, she showed up in Florida to thank those who voted for her, AFTER the polls had closed.

    As far as Michigan goes, Edwards and Obama chose to remove their names from the ballot, but 4 others left their names on it. Later, Edwards and Obama wanted to put their names back on but it was too late. So. . .their surrogates worked feverishly on a ground operation to get Democratics to vote "Uncommittted", telling them that later, when the delegates are seated, they can change their "Uncommitted" votes to Edwards or Obama. If Obama thought that Michigan votes didn't count, why did he try so hard to get the Uncommitted voters out to the polls?

    February 16, 2008 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  25. Atanu

    Which is "more" old – chicken or egg ? Truly this election is of a kind – anything which will come on his way, anything which is logical or debatable would be branded as "old".

    February 16, 2008 03:50 pm at 3:50 pm |
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