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Janet said, "This is all a result of poor planning and underestimating one's opponent. If Hillary did not have such an inflated ego and so many "yes" men around her, she may have anticipated a good battle and planned her finances, strategy, and platform a little better..."

How can we expect someone to manage the greatest nation in the world when they cannot even effectively run a campaign for a party nomination?

It is actually amazing to see how the Hillar-ites are supporting a woman who changes the rules constantly to suit herself instead of Democracy. Obviously the woman has no trust in the process of the American vote for her to steal the nomination which I'm sure she is planning to do at the convention because Obama will be nominated by the PEOPLE...not the Billery machine that has been in place since she waved her hand and said, "Vote for me...I'm a woman!" Give me a break Hillar-ites! Use your intelligence for once. See her for what she is and put the person most suited for the job of President and will make this country a positive and productive force in the world...Senator Obama.

Obama '08

"50 united states not 48 states. Obama shuning FL and MI means Obama loses either way, either in August or November. Not to smart.
Clinton only chance to win in November.
Sorry just a fact."

Dems united..
.I dont think he is shuning FL and Mi. He is just following the rules that were set. Also I have family in both states that said they did not go vote because it didnt matter. So if they are going to do anything they should just have the primaries in Fl and Mi over.

Obama 08

Tom........you are wrong in your practical theory. Both candidates will do whatever it takes – not just one or the other. Daily there are examples of such behaviour. However, CNN is very bias in their coverage of the campaigns. And I would add just this – we need a leader not a good speaker. I can back this up;

ya know those votes in Michigan and Florida that everyone is just talking all about??? well, Clinton left her name on the ballot in Michigan as would any seasoned political candidate so an not to disenfrancise the Michigan voters (Obama did campaign when they realized the mistake – as in vote for noncommitted)....

So then comes Florida and I guess Obama and Edwards learned from Senator Clinton and left their names on the ballot – geez – smart guys! But to claim there was no campaigning is just flat incorrect from Obama. He did his ads on CNN, and other media of which the Floridians were exposed.

So..........Obama and the rest shunned Michigan and Florida and he wants the voters disenfrancised so he can "win"??? Win what – sounds devisive to me! I suspect Michigan and Florida would turn red in November.

POINT 1: The super delegates should have no say in the nomination process. This should not come down to a back room decision.

POINT 2: The DNC set out rules for the primaries. If the rules were not followed then the consequences must be suffered. You can't change the rules just because you don't like the consequences.

In both cases, DO NOT complain about the stolen 2000 election if you
want to not follow established rules and ethics.

I for one will NOT support any candidate who circumvents the process.
This will put the Democratic Party in jeopardy for the future.

It is very telling when Hillary states bitterness is "fun". Time for her to retire.

Obama is not shunning FL and MI...he wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan because he, along with Hillary, agreed to the Democratic National Party's ruling that the delegates would not be seated.

Obama is sticking by his agreement...Hillary is not...Clinton politics as usual.

And for Hillary to criticize Obama for his statement that he would discuss the financing of his campaign WHEN he became the candidate is also laughable. She said she would NOT finance her campaign.

If you want ethics, vote for Obama. If you want hypocrasy, vote Hillary.

I think that billary is falling on her sword that is her word. They had all agreed on this turm and now backing away form your agreement.I would have hope to have someone of principle being President with all these promises and salution and the first sign of trouble you op to do things that suit ones self. That is what got us in trouble in the first place,you charge bush as someone who mess the country up and now you are heading in the direction,,POLIT

Howard Dean is a weak leader of the Democratic party. If anything he should be the one to get fired.
As far as seating the FL and MI delegates are concerned, the decision not to count the votes was made before the ballot was cast . Changing rules after the fact is simply cheating. DNC must issue an statement just as soon as they possible can and clarify their position on these delegates and close this chapter once and for all.
And yes if Hillary must give up if she is loses to Barack Obama in the pledged delegate count and vice versa.

I am from Michigan and you should know that Hillary put herself on the ballot. Obamba and Edwards did not. Obama followed the DNC rules. Hillary did not. The only other option we had to vote was to vote uncommited. This confused many people. I do not think she should take the majority of our delegates when she cheated and came in the back door.

No deals! This is America the land of the free. Take it all the way! Since when is challenge or competition inappropriate for Americans?

Hillary the HOPE of 08

When you don't give your name, your comment sucks cuz it could come from the moon. Try to make your comments relivent and not off a candidates propoganda sheet
The rules were set months ago for Fl and Mi. Whats the problem? Did the candidates sleep when that was delt with and they were not told of the ruling. Act like you know what your doing or talking about and consider the big picture, your country and what it stands for.
I wish you Yanks luck on this one regardless which side your on, from your friends to the north Canada

I sincerely hope the upcoming primaries make it clear who the Democratic nominee will be. I'm very concerned that the longer this goes on, the more divided the Democratic party will be. And sadly, I see most of the divisiveness originate from the Clinton campaign. Obama went on the offensive today, but when he does, it's largely in reaction to baiting from the Clintons.

The party, and our nation, cannot afford for the Democrats to lose.

A caucus would be the only fair way to seat the delegates from Michigan and Florida. Everyone that decided not to vote in those primaries made their decision based on the rules of the democratic party, understanding that their votes would not count. I am not voting in Washington today, not because I don't care, but because I know it doesn't matter.

Hold caucuses in Michigan and Florida. Those that care enough to participate will have their say.

Everyone I have spoke to says if Obama wins – They will vote republican! At least McCain doesn't have some fascination (Fairy tale dream) that he is going to sit down and have a tea party with countries that odviously want to hurt us!

Maybe if he ever Debates Sen. Hillary – He will tell us all what tea he intends to SERVE!

After reading some of the post, I can't help but wonder if some of the posters are really neo-cons in dems. clothing. The DNC set the rules, so deal with them. Obama, Edwards, Dodd, Richardson and Biden have all complied, why not Clinton? Stop the tricks and let the voters, from the states that actually count, decide.

GO OBAMA 08!

I don't believe it will go to the convention.
I belive it will be decided by June.
I voted fo Clinton now I'm for Obama.

If Hillary wants the votes to count in Michigan and Florida she should be advocating that both states should hold primaries again with both names on the ballot.

To claim that the voters will be disenfranchised if the FL & MI delegates are not counted ignores the fact that the voters were already disenfranchised because Edward's and Obama's names were not on the original ballots. At least give those states a choice before arguing that the current result is valid.

Obama was wrong and naive to take his name off the ballot of Michigan, and since he was the only one to run television ads in Florida, he really shouldn't complain about the results. If he had won Florida he would readily ask for them to be seated at the convention. How pathetic. The people of Florida weren't stupid. They made informed decisions and turned out in record numbers, this doesn't mean that Obama supporters simply stayed home, it means that the primary in Florida was not only fair but relevant. The results should stand. Oh, and as far as Michigan is concerned... well, Obama can't complain about running radio ads to tell his supporters to vote "Uncommited" because that means he gets no delegates from Michigan. Stupid mistake on his part, that's all.

hey, all the candidates AGREED on the plan re: MI and FL, and ONLY HILLARY subverted the plan and campaigned in those states anyway.

Whatever it takes, Hillary, whatever it takes - going back on agreements you've made, playing by only the rules that favor you - all's fair in love and war, right?

WRONG. Why do you think people don't trust you? You care only about Hillary and power. End of story.

Thank God there's another compelling Democrat in the race, so that we don't have to hold our noses and support you against McCain.

OBAMA is the one.

I hope the people of FL and MI don't mind being dismissed by the DNC and Obama. Did they get a vote on this rule, at least? Didn't think so. Tom, you ignorant slu-ug ....
Ricky, shouting makes you sound even more stupid...
Can anyone produce the recordings of all these so-called "many times" that Hillary has said she would do anything to win? (Chris Matthews saying it doesn't count.)

If Hillary keeps deceiving the public the way she is doing and playing NASTY politics she will alienate herself. She won't need the help of McCain or Obama.

Over 40% of the registered Democrats in Florida voted. This was an enormous turnout of voters – I believe it was the highest turnout for a primary in their history. No one told Florida voters not to vote – that's why the primary was conducted and 1.7 million of them voted. I really feel sorry for the few that didn't vote – but I will not be responsible for their stupidity. By the way – Obama was the only candidate that campaigned in Florida (TV ads) – the other candidates followed the rules. Michigan is another story – but even then, Obama and Edwards voluntarily removed their names from the ballot – they didn't have to. I'm sure something will be worked out to everyone's satisfaction – do not let the media hype turn this into another battle ground.

The Perfect Ticket: Billary/Rove '08

Hillary Clinton is clearly panicking. She least expected the race to go this far. She is now running out of steam. She is behaving as if the White House belongs to her.

Dems Unite, you are completely off base. It was the Democractic National Committee that set the rules - and one of Hillary's principal supporters, Harold Ickes, was one of the committee members who voted last fall to adopt the rule that any delegates elected by Florida and Michigan in violation of party rules would not be seated. Clinton was all in favor of that rule last fall. Now that she is falling behind, she wants to change the rules. Obama did not "shun" Florida and Michigan - he was simply following the agreement made by all candidates that they would not campaign in states that scheduled their primaries in violation of party rules.

Obama is change, Billary is old style politics. If Billary continues to run she will become Democrats version of Huckabee, it will show her true self.

Obamabots getting all frantic again. I guess you don't realize the delegates make the rules and they can change them anytime. If Obama has the most then why does it matter ? All this garbage about rules and changing them shouldn't affect the leader right? Maybe you're just realizing that Obama is losing? If the delegates vote to seat those delegates that will mean you don't have the Democratic support to win anyway. What's the matter? You don't like voting? Or you only like democracy when it's fixed in your favor? This ain't Chi-town.

At least someone from New York is showing some common sense. Schumer wants the nomonations sorted before the convention as his
job as head of Senate Elections is to get Democrats elected. He does not need a brutal internecine war fueled by the to-the-death junior Senator from New York.

Its such a funny thing that the clintons are the ones with all the negative vibes and releasing ads that are so stupid. She says that she is for the working people and for America. why then does she fire her manager when shes loosing- i though we work through things to fix them. Maybe thats how she wants to run th country, fire any advisors and people that dont agree with her. She says shes tough, lady dont confuse being cocky for confidence. Another thing, we she wins, she sticks around to congratulate but when she has lost 8 straight, she doesnt thank the people that attempted to vote for her. Is that someome who is for the american people or the Hillaryan state? Get real lady and be a lady with dignity and not fighting like a pitbull.

So, one thing is not clear to me: when we hear that there will be 4049 delegates at the democratic convention, so that 2025 are needed to clinch the nomination, does this include the delegates from Michigan and Florida, or not?

It shouldn't, or else the entire argument is misconstrued. If it does, then either:
1) these numbers are wrong and the magic number is actually something less than 2025; or
2) it will be extra hard to reach the magic number (unless the party allows the two faulty states' delegates to vote after all, or they hold another, legal vote).

So does anyone know the answer?

I have had it with this ! ANYONE who believe they should count the delegates of Florida and Michigan has no integrity and just plain hypocritical. The DNC said no ! so no one competed ! the delegates did not count ! Now you want to twist it by saying they should have their say after the fact, who ever believes this is SPINELESS and a cheater at heart, that is why I am now angry with HILLARY, NO ONE COMPETED WITH YOU BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COUNT, now you want to try to change the rules because you don't think you can win outright !!! you have just shown what type a person you are, SAME OL POLITICIAN. if you want to include FL and MI device a way so that it can be fair competition,but really, the rules are the rules, they were out before it began and should stay out.

Easy for any HISTORIAN or strong student of basic civics to reason as follows:

The Republicans will chew and spit out Hillary within the FIRST month, if she is ever the nominee.

At that time, Independents like me, will run back to the arms of the Republicans. When will the Dems ever learn??? Or, as the media says, most are just not learned to know the difference!!!

Schumer speaks wisely when he worries about the party self-destructing if the primaries go all the way to the DNConvention. Florida and Michigan, like it or not, should not have their delegates seated. Those were the rules set forth by the DNCommittee, and ALL of the candidates agreed to that ruling prior to the start of the primaries. No matter who you fellow democrats support or believe will best benefit from their votes being counted, to change that ruling will only further split the party.

Go back and review the posts we all have left in regard to any story that is about Obama or Clinton. Can you deny that a hatred is growing daily between the Obama and Clinton supporters...to the point where many of US (myself included sad to say) are willing to vote for McCain if our candidate doesn't get the nomination? Here we have history in the making with record turnouts, the first viable woman and African-American candidates to choose from, and a unified hatred of the Bush administration that should all equate to a landslide victory for our party. But sadly, while McCain, Bush, Cheney , Rove and the rest of the GOB (Good Old Boys) laugh up their sleeves at our expense we will, I predict, go down once again as the party who couldn't get its act together.

I live in Canada and have been seeing a lot that goes on, number one i think all votes should be counted. Obama should be saying the same thing about florida and michigan voters. Why would he not back the people of these two states. A true president would back all states. So if he is president I would wonder if he would really be there for all the people in the united states of america. and if it comes to the convention, superdelegates should not switch there votes. If you stick behind obama or clinton then stay on that side. dont backstab the one you voted for. Believe in your candidate. And Obama keeps saying that experience wont matter because he dont have as much. Experience is a key issue. I rather have someone that made mistakes in the past and not playing safe all the time because playing safe will get you into trouble. I would rather one comes out and said, I made many bad decisions but i learned from them instead of coming out and saying I will make mistakes but dont let the voters know of the mistakes he already made in the past. So experience is very important. I think clinton is ready to be presdient. Obama not yet maybe later. I also think clinton will do better on the war then Obama. and go have a debate Obama, thats what we need because I still dont know what change you will bring. Anyone can say change. For the voters go with what you believe in dont jump on the banwagon. Really understand what one is talking about. Some people are just really good at speaking but solving problems is a differnt story.

Florida and Michigan broke the rules in which ALL democratic candidates agreed upon prior to the primaries. They did this not Obama or the DNC. Hillary knew the rules, but decided that her majesty was above them. I think it would be unfair to Obama if they decided to count those votes. The only fair thing would be to redo the primaries. But that would be entirely too expensive. But this situation was clear from the beginning and you Hillary supporters who are trying to back Hillary up on this need to question what you stand for.

Hillary's "win anyway you can even if it is dishonest" is disgusting.

Rules are rules. Don't attack Obama on this even if it convenient for you.

All you people screaming about how not counting Michigan and Florida is unfair are forgetting that all the candidates, including Hillary, agreed that the delegates from FL or MI would not count as a punishment for the primary date that was chosen. NO ONE BUT HILLARY WAS ON THE BALLOT IN MICHIGAN!!! How can you say that counting those delegates for Hillary is fair now! The best solution would be a "Do Over" for those states! Hillary doesn't want that, though, as she fears she wouldn't fair as well.

Let the delegates from Michigan and florida be devided equally for fairness to prevail.

The DNC is not dienfranchising the voters of Michigan and Florida. The individual states knew in advance the consequences of moving their primaries up. It is the state parties that disenfranchised the voters. If the rules are not followed in the end, it will be a free for all in the future. If the rules need to be changed for the future, they need to be done after the rules are followed this time around. Shame on the state party heads for causing this problem. As you can see, the race is tight and wherever they were scheduled to primary would have made their votes heard. Also, the two states suffered economic consequences becasue the candidates did not spend the usual campaign cash on media buys etc. No one to blame but state party heads.

OHIOIANS FOR HILLARY!!!

If you dont win then we will just vote for McCain.

I voted in the Florida election for Hillary, not really knowing what the DNC had recommended.

I think there are a lot of voters in Florida didn't even know about the DNC plan. Her name was on the ballot to vote for, and we voted for Hillery.

Our votes should be a part of this primary.

This is supposed to be America where every indiviual vote must be counted.

I am a republican who has been talking to some Hillary democrats. I have heard the same comments. That if Hillary loses they will not support Obama in November but will crossover and vote for McCain. Democrats be careful what you wish for.There may be a backlash in the general election were every vote counts even Florida were Hillary got over 1 million votes in the so called "no count" primary.

Obama should be very careful when turning his back on michigan and florida, in few months he will really need their votes. It is hard to say you votes don't count in february and vote for me in november.

All candidates NAMES were on the ballot in Florida. None of them campaigned there. Also just to clarify something regarding Florida;
1) Hillary did not go to Florida to hold a victory rally until after all the polls closed which is within the rules of the party.

2) Concerning Michigan, Obama and Edwards had the opportunity to leave their names on the ballot but chose to remove them. This was their misfortune and poor political judgement.

I strongly believe that the DNC must take rsponsibility of its decision to disfranchise Mitch. an Flor. A new primary election in the two states should be held before it is too late. No more cocuses as some suggests. If it will costs 20 milions or more, the DNC have the resources to cover, and they still have pay for their mistake. I also suggest that Howard Dean should step aside. He made terreble decisions this election. Millions have been difrancised in states where cocuses have been held. Open cocuses and primeries allowed the republicans to vote and choose the democratic nominee they wanted to run against their candidate.

Why all the negative campaining in Wisconsin?

What a bunch of uninformed losers on this page!

The idea of superdelegates, to me, means some Dems are deemed not intelligent enough to choose the party nominee.

If DNC set the rules last year barring MI and FL from conventions, which was agreed by all candidates, it will be worse to change the rule in the middle of the race. How can this be fun? Presidential campaign is serious business about the people. Hillary should be honest with herself at least once.

Just stop with accusations that CNN is biased toward Obama. How ridiculous! CNN is not biased toward Obama or anyone else. All these accusation of bias are tired and small-minded.

I think Sen. Schumer's suggestion will be falling on deaf ears when it comes to Sen. Clinton. Everyone is aware of her intense desire to win the presidency...she has carefully strategized her career towards this end. Does anyone really think that the "good of the country" or "party unity" will be motive enough for this "fighter" to concede??? She and her husband are used to "winning." If it comes down to who wins, the American people or the Clinton machine, I do not have confidence that she will be woman enough to make the better choice.

Right on Charlotte. Unfortunately I think it fell on deaf Obamite ears.

Its kind of like those questions "isn't it true..." IT is meant to totally deceive because people only hear 3/4 = 75%.

You nailed it

To Dems unite.

Obama never shunned the MI and FL electorate. Like any rational thinking voter, he said he would be willing to do a re-vote, where both he and Clinton are on equal footing and can campaign there.

Accepting the MI and FL votes as they are would be a gross insult to the democratic process. First of all, his name wasn't even on the MI ballot. Secondly, unlike Clinton who had 100% name recognition, Obama was a relative unknown in those states.

Why is Clinton fighting a re-vote? It is self-evident that CLINTON is trying to manipulate the system and CHANGE THE RULES THAT SHE HERSELF HAD INITIALLY ACCEPTED.

In this country, we respect rules and laws. It is ok to change the rules before a game, but it is never ok to change the rules AFTER a game. You do not want to punish decent people who respect the rules.

I have no problem with FL and MI getting counting ... but first there needs to be an election there where both candidates are on the ballot and where campaigning is allowed.

Many people didn't even bother to vote because they knew it wouldn't count.

Is there anyone opposed to this kind of solution?

Chuck and the other superdelegates should buy some intestinal forti-tude. The role of the superdelegates is to protect the interests of the party faithful who carry the party into the future. A large percentage of Obama voters are crossover republicans and republican leaning inde-pendents whose mission is to stop Hillary. They boast of their hatred and their "Stop the B_tch" campaign. Over 100,000 of them voted this way in the South Carolina primary. Get the picture? Superdelegates should consider the preference of the party faithfuls who were there
for them during the Reagen-Bush years.
The race should go on because neither candidate has the necessary delegate count to win the nomination at this time. Politics change over
night. There are a lot of people yet to vote. There is no such thing as a "sure thing".

To you Dems Unite,
What about all the States Hillary and her campaign has shunned or say don't count because she lost? Too many to list . DNC made the rules. Deal with it.

You Hillbilly apologists seem to be the uninformed ones...your accusations are nothing but the regurjitated sayings of a desparate woman. Obama HAS outlined his proposals, or did you happen to get up and walk away from your TV when he spoke?...AS for CNN and this mornings numbers....They said the numbers reflected Votes CAST on Legislation during the Campaign....McCain had the most and Hillbilly had tthe least. If the facts are unfavorable to your canidiate, quit whinning and try very hard to show her in a Positive light....that's right...you can't.
As for the Fla and Mich. folks...why does she want them now , when back in Sept. she VERY CLEARLY stated they would'nt count because they broke the rules.....she didn't take her name off the ballot in Mich, when every other candidate did....playing fair?...it aint in the hillbilly nature....reminds me of the movie title with John Cusak.....SAY ANYTHING...and will do anything without shame...to win

There is no way this is going to go into June, or the National Convention, or is there going to be a fight to seat the FL and MI delegates. No matter what the Super Delegates or candidates parties are saying right now, the DNC and Super Delegates will demand behind closed doors to the Candidates that whom ever is behind after Texas and Ohio, will step aside. The only way for either candidate to save face, and unite the party is to do just that. They all know that anything else will create a civil war within the party and McCain will win the Presidency. They know that if that happens, they will not only lose the Presidency, but may very well lose the Senate and House. It just is too important to end this debate now.

Florida is one thing, but how in the world can they possibly include Michigan when no one but Hillary appeared on the ballot? How many people just stayed home that day because they knew there was no possibility of voteing for their candidate of choice?

Everbody, we should all contact DNC and Howard Dean to express our feeling about MI and FL. Urge him to act now. More we wait, more divided the party will be!

No matter what, not counting the VOTERS in these two states is wrong and unfair and undemocratic. Two states did not follow the rules. But voters did follow their states' rule. Why voters should be punished and be taken away their right for not doing anything wrong?!! They are just like us busy to survice small people, may not even political and may not even konw what has happened behind the scene. Imaging how discouaging this can be if votes not counted to elect the president. If so, will they still be enthusiastic to build the party? Will they even bother to go vote in general election? More than 2.6 million people combined in FL and MI did vote!

The longer it drags out the more time Obama has to come up with the details we all need to make a real choice.

Somewhere the ghost of George Orwell is supremely pleased, perhaps even gleeful. The Clinton Camp has managed to somehow equate the positive enthusiasm of Obama supporters with the negative images of a cult.

This is a disgusting embrace of Rovian Politics by someone who should know better.

Apparently HRC and her accomplices are moving to be the ideological equivalent of Sirhan Sirhan.

Tom, why is it every time Obama loses it's rigged? What are his plans for NAFTA? How can he just say we will pull all troops out of Iraq by such and such a date? What are his plans to fix this ecomony? How is a Health- care plan that cost almost as much Hillarys, yet leaves out millions of people better? What are his plans to deal with the problems in his homeland?

It is time for the declared superdelegates to simply issue the following statement.

"I will continue to support (Hillary/Obama) as long the party rules on the Michigan and Florida delegations are honored.

In the event that the rules are changed to seat the currently named Michigan or Florida delegations, I will shift my position to "uncommitted" and will vote on the basis of the interests of the party and its prospects in the 2008 presidential election."

This statement would defuse the doomsday tactic of trying to load the convention outcome with irregular Michigan and Florida delegates.

Right, Charlotte. I noticed the way those percentages were stated, too. A lot of under-educated people out there...(and there are many )....will think that Hillary missed more just by the way it was stated.
I, too, wondered why they didn't say, "Hillary missed 25% of the time"...or "Hillary voted 75% of the time." C'mon CNN! Let's be fair.

Jack February 17th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Vote for the person with the best ideas, not the best speechwriter.

Why is Obama reluctant to openly discuss his ideas?

Jack, I value your opinion, but they have already debated 18 times, and 2 more are scheduled. Do you think much will change after 18 debates ? Hillary can' run her campaign !! How is she going to run our country ? She fired the highest ranking Hispanic American from her campaign a few days ago and she is running out of money. She is asking for more debates, because it is free air time

Same old politics,with the same players, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry. How old is the Kenndy politics? I am JFK (old) MLK (old) What's new with Obama? A black man running for President, now that is new.

The Clintons knew what would happen before the two states broek the rules, they are out of luck, the DNC stuck to there guns, despite what you think or the Clintons think, no delegates. Move on Obama!

For all the people who thought she was for NAFTA then please see the anti clinton book by Bernstien that actually discusses she was against it.

Just like Obama said he was standing behind Kerry and Edwards when he made comments in support of the war. Hillary was doing the sane thing when she did not come out against NAFTA.

Obama supporters you cannot have it both ways. Either it is ok for both candidates to make comments so not to differ from the individual that is President or running for President or it is not acceptable for both.

You cannot have it both ways. Stop drinking the punch

TED IN CHICAGO:

I would agree with you that the superdelegates should disappear. But
as they are still there, this is academic for now.

But I do not agree they shall be mediators between a clear winner with the elected delegates and the looser, unless you refer to motivate
the voters of the loosers to support the winner at the General election!
Except tha latter, there i nothing to mediate !

I re-direct you attention to my former statement:

""The Superdelegates are" (better said were) "intended to provide a solution in case of a stalemate between 3 or more candidates'""

Do we agree ??
Greetings

TOM

Let's be serious. It's not DNC fault what happened. The governments of each state, Michigan and Florida, knew what the consequences were if the moved up their primary dates. They are in the wrong and the citizens of each state should be upset with them, not the DNC. Secondly, Hillary wasn'y so concerned with the voters' rights in MI and FL until she won those "elections". Now she's actively wants the delegates seated. She is undermining her own party's decision and they should take note. The delegates should not be seated in each state because they broke the rules and neither candidate was allowed to campaign there.

“I don’t think anyone is looking forward a convention fight,” he said. “Everyone would like us to be focused.”

Not true! The Clintons want a convention fight.....how else will they win the nomination? That's their real fire wall!!! LOL!LOL!

If Obama is not in the general, I'm voting for McCain. Hillary is just WAYYYYYYY TOO SNEAKY for my taste. And that is all I have to say about that right there! With love, Shenehneh from Chappaqua

Hillary (and Bill) have the combined destructive power of ego to desecrate the Democratic party at great cost to America. But when have either of them been more interested in the good of the country over their own self-promotion, advancement or political ambition? When it comes to corruption, distortion and lying, this political couple makes it an even race across the board between the current administration and themselves!

"Dems unite February 17th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

50 united states not 48 states. Obama shuning FL and MI means Obama loses either way, either in August or November. Not to smart.
Clinton only chance to win in November.
Sorry just a fact".

Fact is Obama nor Edwards shunned any state.
Newsflash.....The DNC made the decision and the candidates agreed.....
Calling your statement "Fact" wasn't too smart either.

Obama is not afraid to discuss ideas. He has his ideas and plans on his website. He has participated in 18 debates and two more before March 4th. If you can't find his policies it's not because he doesn't present them, it's because you want to believe that he has no substance and refuse to go look for them.

Pure and simple, Hillary is threattening to take the Democratic Party down with her if it looks like she'll lose the popular vote. Surely it's the superdelegates' job to prevent that from happening.

50 united states not 48 states. Obama shuning FL and MI means Obama loses either way, either in August or November. Not to smart.
Clinton only chance to win in November.
Sorry just a fact.

'Why is Obama reluctant to openly discuss his ideas'?

One more thing ((Jack)))...why is Hillary refusing to disclose her income tax retrun?????

On a new note....How is she going to explain away her support of NAFTA???? Probably the same way she has tried to explain away her vote for the war.

I am from Florida and this has nothing to do with Clinton or Obama. The PEOPLE of Florida did nothing wrong. No one asked us if we wanted to move up the primary. We did not listen to the DNC because we have the right to vote and our vote to be counted just like everyone else in this country. If anyone denies this they are not an American. You should all be outraged to think that anyone has the right to say we are not going to count your vote. The same goes for MI. They removed their own names no one asked them to and no one told them to. EVERYONES VOTE SHOULD COUNT!

Tom, why is it every time Obama loses it's rigged? What are his plans for NAFTA? How can he just say we will pull all troops out of Iraq by such and such a date? What are his plans to fix this ecomony? How is a Health- care plan that cost almost as much Hillarys, yet leaves out millions of people better? What are his plans to deal with the problems in his homeland?

At one time this Nation was rich in power, this days and after 8 years we can not travel to Europe, because our dollar is almost 50% value. Under Mr. Clinton this Nation was RICH, now we are poor, you people (the voters) look and see what is going on with the market. Mr. Bush and the Republican party had being the problem of all of this. You people can go and vote for Obama, or McCain or Clinton, Democrats or Republicans, and for some stupidity forgot that this Nation belongs to us. We the people are the only ones that pay taxes , we need that they work for US, and if that does not work WE should get fired. We pay thier salaries, many of them just want to be there for 4 years (we pay salaries and living until they die). JFK "...... if what you can do for your Country"

Obama can't have it both ways. He says "follow the rules" – well then he knows the rules include votes by the super-delegates. As far as who is really ahead, if they are tied, I say count the number of VOTERS in total - whoever has the most wins!

Hillary Clinton = George Bush.

If you do not like the rules and laws, you just ignore them or break them.

A vote for Hillary is a vote for 4 more years of the same thing.

I think this will all be mute come March 5th.

It's ugly though, watching Hillary go down like this. I hope she comes to her senses soon and saves herself further embaressment.

We can't have elders or wise men/women choosing our candidate again. That's what got us GWB.

Leave the superdelegates only, for what's going to come out about Obama between now and the convention will sink whatever chance he has a being the nominee.

"It's not enough to say that you want to unite people and get everyone to come together. You have to show how you're going to do this".

Well ((Jack))) it's a fact Hillary CAN NOT unite the country. She can't keep her own campaign staff united. But then her "selling" point is NOT to UNITE but rather to FIGHT!

Funny, if Obama had to fight all the way to the convention...the Obama fans would all be supporting him!

This is just anohter example of CNN's inability to report stories in thier entierty. If you see the interview you will see it very differently from the lame report above

Why is the Democratic Party always self destructive. In 2000 they selected Lieberman for vice-president. He looked like a woos in the debate with Cheney. In 2004 they selected John Edwards for vice-president. He couldn't win his own state and if he ran for re-election to the senate he would have been trounced. Now there is a possibility to nominate a novice who beat Alan Keyes for the senate by 30 points. I could beat Alan Keyes by 40 points. You have in Hillary Clinton a brilliant candidate who would make an outstanding president. Men are intimidated by strong women. I am one male who is not. Democrats don't screw it up again. The Republican attack machine is in full mode ready to pounce. Your countries future well-being is at stake.

She will NEVER and I mean NEVER be norminated. Case closed.

In Florida all candiadtes were on the ballot, no candidate went into Florida to campaign and only Obama had ads that were seen on Florida TV or Cable.
The voters went to the polls and had the opportunity to vote for any of the candidates their selection should stand.

Hey Wisconsin and Hawaii Voters.....listen to what i have to say.......As a man, I am stunned by the lack of support you ladies have for one another. This election has got to be one the most important elections in American History and if I were a female who had to “put up with” everything that MEN have dished out to you, I would vote for the first chance I got at putting a female in the Oval office. You ladies finally got the opportunity to have a female elected into the oval office and yet you do not support one another. It amazes me.

"pd February 17th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Absolutely right Charlotte!! I caught the same thing. It is absolutely ridiculous. Hey, CNN, if you want to do something really novel, start scrolling these posts on the bottom of your screen, so all the viewers can see that we are calling you out on it everytime".

What does "your" calling out CNN do to change anything???
Fact is Hillary is behind! Fact is she is ready and willing to "steal" the nomination if she has to. Fact is she thinks she's above following the rules set forth by the DNC..
Calling out the media,is stupid! It's YOUR candidates willingness to "win at any cost" mentality that's ridiculous!

Why are the Clintons changing the rule to win. They all agreed that the delegates in the Florida and Michigan primaries would not be counted but now that she finds herself behind she wants them counted and I agree with her. After politics is a dity business!

Billary 08.

Who in the Democratic Party decided to disenfranchise Florida and Michigan voters? Was it party people who are also likely to be super-delegates? How can you logically support not letting the superdelegate thing just play out but also not support letting the vote of the people in Florida and maybe Michigan count? We either allow non-democratic practices or we don't. Maybe I'm just too logical for politics.

CNN You are censoring my comments again!!!!

I have watched this constant battle between the Clinton and Obama supporters for a while. I think that both candidates have merit. The danger that they both face is that if this becomes a messy battle at the convention, then the supporters of the losing side will sit out the general election, thereby ensuring the victory of McCain

Bill Clinton all but destroyed the Democratic Party during his presidency, now Hillary is attempting to do the same by seating delegates from Florida and Michigan. Hillary should be dropped from the democratic ticket because she disregarded the rules of the DNC. Why isn't the DNC pushing for this, are they so afraid to challenge her on this or are they just going to let her make the rules for the DNC. If Hillary succeeds over what the DNC rules are, then count me out of the democratic party. It's not about Obama or Hillary winning, for me it's about integrity and honesty.

As a Democrat that will vote for which ever candidate is eventually chosen, I would think that this is a good time for Obama to walk the walk and do what he has been talking about. Allow the votes from MI and FL to count. If they had record turnouts, everyone voted that was going to anyway. Do these Americans not matter to him. If he wants to change the bureaucracy of government, show us. Show that he is more concerned about hope for all and doing what is right and not caring about if it might give him less delegates. It will go to DNC anyway. If he fights this, he is just as bad and superficial as all the other politicians and there will be no change.

((Charlotte))) is CNN responsible for the voters supporting Obama?
Stop the whinning.....This nomination was practically "given" to Hillary from day 1.....No one expected these primary's to be competitive.
Now she's BEHIND with a uphill fight to win 3 states by LARGE margins, just to stay in the race.
The problem Hillary has been around for 20+ years,maybe based on their knowledge of her, she has more negatives than Obama!

How can we seat delegates from Michigan who were given a ballot without one of the 2 candidates name on it? Barack wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Hillary doesn't want Michigan's voice heard, she wants her uncontested delegates. If Michigan's voice is to be heard, then give them a choice. if you give the people one choice and then call that an election... well, that is how Saddam Hussein won elections, that is not democracy.

This is to Ricky. Hillary did not run in 2004 because she had pledged to the citizens of New York that she would not run until after her first term as their Senator. And if Barack Obama want's to change the rules concerning Superdelegates to help him win then why can't Hillary counter that with FL & MI. Anyway this will all be mute when Hillary wraps up the nomination anyway in June.

Harold Ickes and The Clinton campaign are still pushing for delegates from Florida and Michigan to be counted at the convention cheaters cheaters.Harold Ickes said some 1.7 million Democrats voted in Florida and their voices should be heard, what about the voters who didn't vote because of the rules he himself voted for. He knows if there is a do over she may not win. Grow up Ickes your looking like a 3rd grader.

Top Clinton Adviser Says Superdelegates Will be the ones that will decide the election and that Obama’s victories shouldn't even count. That's not hepling matters. If Obama has more votes and they don't give it to him. I will with many others stage a protest vote, knowing that McCain will only have 4yrs and Obama can come back and take it all.

I personally feel totally betrayed by the DNC – I live in Florida, and my vote was stolen once before; but I wasn't surprised at that point, because what else can you expect from the Republicans? Also, Jeb Bush just happened to be Governor of Florida at the time, and we all know how the Bushes stick together (Daddy DID help Jr. during Viet Nam and his DUI, and we are currently in Iraq because Jr. was ticked off that Saddam wanted to kill Sr.)

But for MY OWN PARTY TO STEAL MY VOTE????????????

I have news for you, DNC – maybe my vote for Hillary didn't count, but if Barack gates the nod, my vote AGAINST the Democratic Party in November (the first Republican vote I'll ever cast) WILL!

I'll vote Republican just to get even!

The same Obama supporters saying Michigan and Florida shouldn't be counted because "those are the rules" are the same ones saying that Clinton would be "rigging" the nomination if she operated by THE RULES to secure the nomination at the convention. You can't have it both ways. Both candidates knew the rules before running, whether or not we believe them to be unfair is irrelevant. If that's the general conclusion, then we need to change them before the next election, but we shouldn't equate following the rules to "rigging," Tom.

The only fair way to settle the Mich/FL debacle is to hold new primaries in those states....not caucuses because that would be changing the rules...those states operate on primaries, but should require a do-over so that both names can be on the ballots and both can campaign in those states.

Anthony

CNN stands for Clinton Nomination Network!
Who else would ask " which do you like more pearls or diamonds?" in a presidential debate and at the last debate CNN allowed Hillary to freely adverstise.

**You need a medical help if you think CNN is for Obama. LOL

An AC Anderson & Cooper Challenge – (By the way, thanks for hosting the delicate subjects on race, gender and politics.)

I would like to see you examine the effects of the press coverage on the Democratic race for over the past month and a half. Surely the newscasters would have to admit they openly supported Obama (often with STARry eyes) not only by their words and actions but also their bold headlines. Discussions and headlines about Hillary were often caustic, negative, jeering, and half true. (This happened on CNN as well as the other major networks. I have read enough comments to know that many others have felt the say way.) Some of us believe this media hype has directly influenced voters preferences. Personally, I believe we are reaping what you have sown and I do NOT like it!

In an election, the press has a responsibility to present information and ideas about each candidate's strengths and weaknesses. This media tool is powerful and should not be taken lightly. Who knows how this election might be shaping up today if the media had not given Obama favorable coverage for so long while giving Hillary negative coverage?

Could it be that the Obama babies' belief in his non-stop jabberwocky is wavering? It seems they want to cry wee-wee in the hopes of ending the promaries before all of the states have had the chance to vote. Let everyone vote, then let them cry wee-wee all the way to the convention.

FL and MI were warned in advance that if they moved their primaries up, their delegations would be deleted. They did it anyway. They bought this on themselves, they have NOT been disenfranchised. And Hillary agreed to it previously!

Now that the race is closer than she expected, she is flip-flopping.

The Clintons are dirty politicians who will do and say anything to win. They have no morals. These are the people you want in the White House, again?

Rules are made to be broken, that, unfortunately is a rule of life.

That being said, the question I ask myself is: Can the Obama delegates support Clinton or the Clinton delgates support Obama.

Well, if the Obama supporters feel like the superdelegates stole the nomination from Obama...then hell no

I don't think the democrats can win this. The Clintons are going to fight and get down and dirty and it will turn off the electorate.

Can you say President Mccain

Keep the smile on your face: Hillary... You will need it for the next:

Four Years – Plus!

What a dirty trick....Republican wants Obama win for Democrat... So the race to White House will be much easier for them.... Media companies give Obama free rides because most of media are owned by Republicans. Obama's supported from Republican because they can kick Obama's butts much easier than fighting with Halary…. At the end no way Obama will win for president….. wake up American…

Your brothers are proud of you, Obama…You make us gain respect with entire world….
Your bros,
Osama-Obama 2008

It is completely RIDICULOUS to think that hillary would expect Michigan and Florida to have their delegates seated at the convention simply because it favors her. Those states went about their primary scheduling in the wrong way! Whose fault is it that some idiot running their state decided to push their dates up??? If politicians cared about rules and weren't so concerned with flipping issues to work better for them we would have a much better government. But unfortunately that has never been the case. It would be a terrible injustice and lead to a flat out CIVIL WAR in the Democratic party should hillary get her way. Rules are rules and they knew what the rule was before they made that dumb decision!

If the Clinton's are so sure the people of Florida want her then let the DNC let the candidates run a proper race in Florida and let us vote or hold Caucuses..

What happened to florida was wrong...

If Obama is the nominee, then prepare yourselves for another 4 years of a Republican White House. He will never win.

Bernard Mizrahi February 17th, 2008 1:57 pm ET

is the DNC going to leave millions of voters from Michigan and Florida forbidden to express their votes because it is more convenient for Obama? is this a democratic attitude? If they voted, their votes should count!!!! it is impossible to say that tose 2 states do n ot exist!!!!

ummm NO Bernard....try to keep up! The DNC stripped those states of delegates because they violated party rules. This decision was made before the first ballot was cast in the primary. And the 3 candidates agreed with this decision.
The intelligent question to ask is...Does Hillary now want to "change" the rules because it's to her advantage? She had no problem with these states being stipped of their delegates until she won in both of them.
Things that make you go hmmm!

Hillary is pathetic and polarizing. She will be bad for our country.

i've supported the democratic party since before i could vote and in all my years i have never seen a standoff like this one! personally i think that hillery should stick it out all the way to the convention because i belive that she has the guts and the backbone to actually stand up to the hardline political bozo's in washington that are currently screwing up our country and that includs kerry and kennedy! i would like nothing better than to see a clinton/obama ticket but if it ends up the other way around i'll be forced to vote for mccaine and that doesn't come easy for me but thats how strongly i feel hillery is our only choice!

Party Unity is what chairman of Democratic National Committee should focus on, this could be the year that democrats award general election to Republicans without any fight except fighting each other right out of White House.

Thank you Mr. Clinton for a wonderful 8 years now let's move on with new ideas and new administration for a change.

The greatest country in the world needs a new face lift.

SDs are supposed to vote as they think will benefit the Democratic party the most.

Senator Barack Obama believes that the best idea is for SDs to vote with their constituencies.

Hillary believes that the SDs shold vote for who they think will do the best job. What she fails to realize is that so many of the superdelegates believe that Barack Obama will do a better job and that they are not willing to be bought off by her money and phony promises. She would be in for a big surprise once all of the votes are in. I bet she thought most if not all of the superdelegates would have pledged support for her by Super Tuesday LOL!

Clintons, please just go away!!!!

I agree with Kris, this system sucks. Why can't we have one primary election, like the general election. No caucuses, just a little booth. Why do Iowa and New Hampshire get all the attention every year. At the very least rotate among the states if not a single primary.

Jack,

Take look at the "issues" in barackobama.com

You will come to know if he has details or not.

As a Michigan resident, I'd like to point out that there are many of us who DO NOT want our delegates seated. Why? Because Obama and Edwards chose not to even be on the ballot after the DNC punished Michigan for moving up the primary. How can that be considered a real primary vote? Our choice was Hilary or "uncommitted". Lots of people didn't vote or voted Republican. If a primary were held with Hilary and Obama on the ballot, I dare say that Obama would likely win.

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game, Hilary, just because you want to win.

I think it is really funny how everyone thinks CNN is biased against their candidate. I feel like I can't even watch CNN half the time because they are so, in my opinion, pro-Clinton but apparently there are Clinton supporters who feel the exact reverse.

It is interesting in a sort of depressing way.

The last time voters were disenfranchised in Florida, it was by the Bush republicans. So I guess Obama is no better than Bush if he disenfranchises voters. I keep hearing that the vote shouldn't count because the candidates didn't campaign there (even though Obama did run TV ads there). So what's the problem? That put both candidates on equal footing and over 800,000 voted for Hillary Clinton – even though they thought there votes may not count. That is a lot of voters to disenfranchise. Obama supporters are using the same arguements that Bush used in 2000. Those arguements are just as undemocratic now as they were then. Hang the chads! Let's count all of the votes this time!

You know what .... from where I stand I see the party already broken. I know so may Democrats, me included, who will never vote for Hillary Clinton. If we just would have the 'regular selection' of 'politicians for sale' I may not have cared – but this time is different. This time we have a candidate that is a once-in-a-generation leader.

If Billary smears her way into the nomination you will see pitch forks and torches in the street. I would be in favor of organizing demonstrations against Hillary Clinton if she would the nominee – I think that is a realistic scenario !

And besides ... McCain is not the worst Republican the Republicans could have picked (Think Guiliani). So if we select Billary, I will be glad to vote for the Republicans for the first time ever.

If it doesn't benefit obama, then just forget it. All candidates did not campaign in Michigan or Florida and Hillary still won. Now we have our "I can walk on water Obama" saying this is not not right. The people of Florida and Michigan voted and she won. But if your not for Obama your vote should not count. He is so sweet he is starting to give everyone a tooth ache.

This is so true, I have been watching CNN and they are always re-tooling the efforts to show a win win for Obama. Hillary voted 75% of the time, where were Obama and McCain? She walks the talk, talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words, Hillary does both quite well. Obama research her work and introduces them as his but takes a little off thinking he will not be caught.

This is so true, I have been watching CNN and they are always re-tooling the efforts to show a win win for Obama. Hillary voted 75% of the time, where were Obama and McCain? She walks the talk, talk is cheap and actions speak louder than words, Hillary does both quite well. Obama research her work and introduces them as his but takes a little off thinking he will not be caught.

CHARLOTTE and other with similar opinion:

CNN is certainly not biased against Hillary because if so, they would take apart the Clintons because of her declarations confessing she
will try to get the nomination by procedures which could be called
RIGGING !!

TOM

Vote for the person with the best ideas, not the best speechwriter.

Why is Obama reluctant to openly discuss his ideas?

It seems like he's trying to ride the Obama Fever that has swept the country, *hoping* that people will get distracted by his great-sounding speeches long enough so they don't really focus on asking him about his specific plans on the issues.

It's not enough to say that you want to unite people and get everyone to come together. You have to show how you're going to do this.

Hillary is taking such extreme measures all of the sake of winning. They have said it numberous of times that they will do anything. She is forceful regarding mandatory healthcare and forceful in her attempts to make Obama have debates. Hmmm can anyone say DICTATORSHIP!!

TOM – re Superdelegates

I think you said – obstain round one then vote per voters next time

NO SIR: The Superdelegates are intended to provide a solution in case of a stalemate between 3 or more candidates !! If as here there are only 2, they should abstain in the first round and at a final round support the winner of the first. AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

IF THAT IS WHAT THEY DO – AND THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO – WHY HAVE THEM? WHY GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE OF SUPERDELEGATES – TO NEUTER TO THEM TO HARD AND FAST RULES THAT MAKE THEM minor non delegates?

Get rid fo them – cool
Keep them – cool – but then use them as intended – as a mediation group or thinking group or yes elite best thinking wise man or woman group

I hear Schumer and I agree that Clinton and Obama should avoid all of this rhetoric. However, he must not have noticed the latest article:

"Top Clinton Adviser Says Superdelegates Will Decide Election, Obama’s Victories ‘Irrelevant’

This is arrogant on behalf of Hill Bill and their campaign. Who are they paying off in advance. There will be so many favors owed if she reaches the White House, she will not have time to focus on this country and the American people.

Hilary should be graceful accepting defeat. It will go a long way uniting the party thus kicking out Bush and his co-travellers out of the White house! Obama 08!

"is the DNC going to leave millions of voters from Michigan and Florida forbidden to express their votes because it is more convenient for Obama? is this a democratic attitude? If they voted, their votes should count!!!! it is impossible to say that tose 2 states do n ot exist!!!!"

Where were you and Hillary a year ago when the rule was made that they would not count???? Play by the rules.

Kris – I do not like the one day idea as it does not allow for much close campaigning in states – the town halls and coffee shops – but I have not great answers etither

This front loaded with superdelegats was a solution to past problems and created its own

To Ricky:

The REASON Hillary did NOT run in 2004 is because she Promised the Voters of New York State she would NOT run for President during her FIRST TERM as a Senator. She KEPT her promise.

Obama Promised the Voters of Illinois State he would NOT run for President during his FIRST TERM as a Senator. He BROKE his promise.

The real question is: If Obama is willing to break his word less than a year AFTER becoming a state Senator. How many Promises is he willing to break to the American People after elected?

When the DNC decided to not count the Michigan and Florida delegates they also reduced the number of delegatges required to secure the nomination from 2250 to 2025. If Hillary wants to add the delegates back to the count they need to be added to both sides of the equation. Of course she just wants to add them to apply toward the number that was established without them. Adding them to her acquiring 2025 delegates would be more of the Clinton method of twisting the facts, cheating and lying. Oh but wait! We are talking about Hillary Clinton, what else could one expect? Politics as usual. I have to believe that we the American people are not as STUPID as Hillary thinks we are and wants to believe. If she turns out to be right I will find a new country to call home, but not before voting for McCain.

The DNC has nobody to blame but themselves. When Republicans were faced with the exact same situation with Michigan and Florida, they chose to REDUCE the number of delegates from those states, a fair and equitable solution. The Democrats decided to go for the nuclear option and ELIMINATE the delegates from those states. They can't win the general election without those two states, so a solution must be found.

The media is helping to create all this animosity between Clinton's and Obama's supporters. It makes you wonder if their motive is to put another Republican in the White House.

GO HILLARY 2008

It's sad and very telling that Clinton would pursue her own "fun" at the expense of the good of the Party. Well, if that happens, the Democrats may very well not recover in time to beat McCain in November. But, as long as she had "fun"...

Hillary Clinton is alienating the nation. As a former Clinton-supporter I can only say this: She seems to be the opposite of a statesman. Her dirty campaign will split the democratic party. Her unability to face a defeat and to admit mistakes is more than disappointing. We need unity and not division among the democrats, who ever will be the nominee.

Our democratic system is broken people. It needs to be overhauled completely to avoid all this nonsense in the future. Why don't we start debating about that fact? I say throw out the caucus system, which makes no sense and truly disenfranchises any number of elderly and hard-working voters, then set a single date to hold primaries nationwide. Get it all over and done with, no more dragging it out ofver moths and months so that we end up in these situations with dem vs dem and the outlook for the party as a whole looking quite bleak at this moment.

Absolutely right Charlotte!! I caught the same thing. It is absolutely ridiculous. Hey, CNN, if you want to do something really novel, start scrolling these posts on the bottom of your screen, so all the viewers can see that we are calling you out on it everytime.

Schumer's answers were all smoke and mirrors. The only correct answer was to say rules are rules,and one can't chance them...instead he hemmed an hawed about how it's too early to make any decisions regarding superdelegates or Michigan and Florida.

The Clinton campain had no problems with the rules in December.

Once again, CNN is taking an interview out of context. Watch the overall interview to make a judgment on this so-called difference.

Mr. Schummer:

You say:
""Howard Dean and the two candidates will have to get together if neither candidate has 2025, which is the margin that the rules require to win, and come up with a strategy"

THIS IS, I FEAR THAT INTENTIONALLY, NOT CLEAR !!! Do you mean thet 2025 plus the declared intebtions of Superdelegates ??

NO SIR: The Superdelegates are intended to provide a solution in case of a stalemate between 3 or more candidates !! If as here there are only 2, they should abstain in the first round and at a final round support the winner of the first. AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

And further, the superdelegates cannot support a PRIMARY ELECTION RIGGING BY ALLOWING TO SEAT THE DELEGATES FROM MICHIGAN AN D FLORIDA. If such would happen in a Third World country or in the deceased Soviet Union, I can only imagine your
smug comments as well the of you Senate colleagues !!

And you should say clearly that between other, you do not support
the CLINTONS outrageous intention to argue::

1) Lets seat ALL THE DELEGATES and not disenfranchise the voters
from Michigan and Florida

2) Lets subsequently DISENFRANCHISE ALL THE VOTERS by letting
the old guard politicians between the superdelegates SHIFT THE
NOMINATION FROM THE WINNER BETWEEN THE VALID
DELEGATE DELEGATE VOTES TO US (the Clintons) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TOM

Heard about this situation this morning. This is all a result of poor planning and underestimating one's opponent. If Hillary did not have such an inflated ego and so many "yes" men around her, she may have anticipated a good battle and planned her finances, strategy, and platform a little better. Now she appears disorganized and running out of steam. The American Presdiency is not guaranteed to any one.

CNN style of journalism is taking a new low on biased reporting.

Don't worry Obama-bots CNNwill watch out for him.
Ex::CNN is so bias to Obama, I was just watching and they were talking about voting records. John McCain has been absent 60% of the time, Obama 40%, then they said Hillary only voted 3/4 of the time. Shoukdn't it have been only missed 25% of the votes. Why did they say it different for her?

Billary, there are rules that were made by the DNC and all candidates (yes you included, you are not above the DNC, the people and the law).. which you must follow. the two states are out..........and you did not say a word when you thought none was running against you, now suddenly those count, and you will go out all the way.........your campaign has gone beyond what is all the way. I for one am tired of the Clinton's same old same old. I know many citizens voters, will vote McCAin if you steal the Democratic election _ the people have spoken we want change, we want hope, we want real people, we want a democracy not a dynasty and the same old same.

The sissies are now crying, "men do not attack women." Well, well, well- what can I say. Maybe Hillary does not truly represent the "women's movement." In short, she should not be challenging Obama to debates or speaking evil of such an honest man. You simply cannot destroy the character of an honest man. Bill can never be an Obama!!

It's the difference between helping the party and walking away gracefully and being self-centered enough to continue the fight.

Same old Clintonian politics. It's all about the Clinton dynasty. Their race is neither about the democratic party nor about the American people. The race is about personal ambition. For her, if she losses the nomination it does not matter if her supporters stay at home or vote for McCain instead in the general election. She will do or say anything to get elected. Her politics of convenience is what will keep the Republicans in the White House for the next 8 years.

Chuck knew what he was backing with he selected Hillary. I got news for you Chuck, during your re-election bid expect the good people of NY to say NO!

Backing the Clintons means one is willing to back corruption and that's not what the good people of NY needs.

Obama is right on the issues and in principle. Now you got this person calling herself an experience person of 35 years representing what YOU support in words and deeds....

Chuck, you got a mess on your hands. If you really think she's wrong on this position then TURN THE PAGE and support Obama!

We need a mature, intelligent, and stable leadership in the White House. That automically excludes Hillary and slick Willie!

On This Week In Politics Sunday, Bill Press said seat the FL and MI delegates because so many came out to vote anyway, so they wouldn't be disenfranchised. But what about those who wanted to vote for Obama, but stayed home because they were told that their vote wouldn't count anyway?

Senator Schummer is absolutely right in stating there has never been such excitement in a pre-nomination process. I hope that he and other super delegates understand who is responsible for the excitement and hope that is causing this wonderful experience in America.

It is Barack Obama all the way. Had Hillary been the only prominent candidate, the majority of democrats wouldn't have taken part.

Clinton is a smart woman and one who has been attributes, but she is not the leader America is looking for at this time.

is the DNC going to leave millions of voters from Michigan and Florida forbidden to express their votes because it is more convenient for Obama? is this a democratic attitude? If they voted, their votes should count!!!! it is impossible to say that tose 2 states do n ot exist!!!!

If Hillary fights up to the convention, the democrats will lose, again.

Obama 08!.

I think Hilary's comments that her husband's presidential election bid in 1992 was fun is totally unwarranted. Presidential elections are not supposed to be fun, they are supposed to be about serious issues and politics. There is nothing "fun" about being the President of the United States. It is a job that needs to be taken seriously. The consequences of the actions of the President of the United States have far-reaching effects.

Obama in '08

The DNC blew this one from the very beginning. Last year when they put the rules in place and opted not to have a 'winner take all' approach in the primaries, disenfrachising voters by the tens of thousands with those infamous caucuses and when they imposed their very un-democratic punishment on Michigan and Florida. They have only themselves to blame for their stupidity. I'm sure the republicans are going to be laughing all the way to the convention.