(CNN) - Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama’s campaigns each accused the other of plagiarizing portions of their campaign speeches Monday, with the Clinton campaign accusing Obama of borrowing from a close supporter - and the Illinois senator’s campaign accusing his rival of lifting from Obama himself.
On a conference call with reporters, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said it was clear Obama had “lifted rhetoric” from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. Portions of Patrick’s speeches during his gubernatorial run resemble some of Obama’s addresses this year.
“If you’re going to be talking about the value of words, the words ought to be your own,” said Wolfson.
In a statement this morning, Patrick said the two men often shared ideas and language with each other.
As Wolfson spoke, the Obama campaign hosted a competing conference call, during which campaign manager David Plouffe said Clinton was "denigrating the power of words."
The Obama camp also said Clinton had a pattern of borrowing some of the Illinois senator’s signature phrases, including “Yes, We Can” and “Fired Up, Ready to Go.”
They also circulated a YouTube video and list of these alleged instances to reporters still listening to Wolfson.
"...We have seen thousands and thousands of Iowans over the last week and we are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa," says Clinton in the pre-Iowa caucuses clip circulated by the Obama campaign Monday.
UPDATE (1:45 p.m. ET): CNN's Chris Welch reports that Obama is playing down the allegations, telling reporters that he's written two books and most of his own speeches.
“Deval and I do trade ideas all the time, and you know he's occasionally used lines of mine, and I at a Jefferson Jackson dinner in Wisconsin used some words of his. And you know I would add I’ve noticed on occasion Sen. Clinton has used words of mine as well,” said Obama, adding, "...As I said before, I really don't think this is too big of a deal."
–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand
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McCain should want small Government. Hillary's money pot is drying up.
When Obama agreed to the public funding, it was base on a balance playing field. The field has not not been balance or fair. Special interest groups, and 527 have played a strong role in this election year. 527 groups have worked for the candidate with using the candidate's monies. So, until they resolve this issue, in evening the playing field, it would be wise for Obama to support such an agreement with McCain.
Hillary needs to support her Party.
McCain needs to earn his money by "Working Hard at getting the Support of All America"
Obama is for Change
This is just getting silly at this point. These 2 are like a pair of second graders, "telling on each other." Grow up, both of you.
Obama’s entire speech was almost exactly like Deval’s speech from 2006. Under any other circumstances this is considered plagiarism.
In this instance what you have is the "marketing" of a candidate using old material. Obama's strong suit is reading other people's speeches via teleprompter. He has a talent for that.
Does that qualify him to be president of the United States?
Not really.
This is sooooo petty and childish. Grow up!!!
Its evident that Clinton's camp believes that Obama's speeches are the only thing that he has on her...This is petty, and I wish the Obama camp would not respond to matters like this...
Keep trying whatever you can Senator Clinton, the race is wraped up and you lost.
Come on Hillary get a life and drop out.
na na na na...Hillary did it too! Good god this man sounds like a small child.
"…We have seen thousands and thousands of Iowans over the last week and we are fired up and we are ready to go because we know America is ready for change and the process starts right here in Iowa," says Clinton in the pre-Iowa caucuses clip circulated by the Obama campaign Monday.
Talking about sad case of plagiarism, quite sad.
Senator Obama talks about change. What change has he delivered in his short political career? Words mean nothing without concrete action. He uses others' speeches and plans. I would expect nothing less from someone with little experience banking on the American people to be inspired by his speeches and "hope" he can really deliver. We have had enough of that for the last 8 years!
For Pete's Sake – Can't we just grow up and get along? Haven't we had enough of the "right" for the past 8 years? Aren't there really BIG issues that need to be solved immediately? Why are we even listening to this – and why are the campaigns WASTING their/my time with it? UGH!
Oh Man – boo hoo, boo hoo from Obama again. He just can't take it like a man. He has to come back with every little thing. Everyone says they don't like the fighting but Obama seems to be at the forefront every time. He's such a whiner. Hillary has been very dignified and a true lady through all the Media's scrutiny of her. I think if I took as much "hate" and bad mouthing as MSNBC, CNN and FOX news has given her I'd have lost it by now and would have blown up. Her attitude is so good. She always comes out with a smile, she always takes questions and shakes hands, takes pictures until the sun goes down and then leaves with that same smile. I never see any of this from Obama. He doesn't smile (that's a gas pain), he doesn't take questions (because he has no answers) he's just too sullen. Go Hillary
Stop whining like babies, already.
Funny thing Obama didn't start using the phrase "fired up" until after Iowa. Perhaps he lifted it from her.
Since when is fired up and ready to go Obama's signature phrase. I have been using this phrase since i was a kid, so maybe he's the one plagiarizing from me. This guy is such a fake and a phony. Be smart America and vote for Hillary.
Hey guys, it wasn't the Clinton Camp that started with the "stolen speeches". It's the media not Clinton. she could care less. Don't blame the wrong people to make Obama look great. He's all smoke and mirrors. Drop out Obummer
Obama is a rhetoric campaigner with nothing but sorry lines. His website is a santa claus like wish list with no specifics, no details, no plans, no figures, template, or anything.
LOL....Oh my gosh! What is this, third grade?
CNN is quuite childish now. this is not worth discussing. hey guys have fun reading such funny stories. both candidates turn childish now. so funny.
Oh for Pete's sake. This is ridiculous on everyone's part.
I would like to comment on another Ticker post, regarding the picture of Africans holding hand-made "Obama '08" signs in Tanzania:
Obama represents hope not only for the United States, but also for Africa and other countries around the world. If a man with a mother from Kansas and a father from Kenya can become President of the United States, then anything is possible for those people in Africa. The power of an Obama presidency to help repair America's image around the world and build bridges with the most impoverished continent would be incredible. He could inspire not only this country, but also Africa and others and really get things done with his popularity. Let's give him the chance.
Let all voters keep this amazing opportunity for America and the world in mind as they go to the polls.
All I can say is Hillary in 08. Barack is a cry baby and a whiner. He will lose ultimately. Once his "people" forget how to vote.
Go Hillary in 08
Obama coined the terms "Fired Up" and Yes we Can"?? I suppose next he'll be claiming he invented the Internet too...
The country deserves better than an empty suit with weak rhetoric – we need a President like Hillary who knows how to lead and has the experience to lead this country.
Hillary uses Obama's words, Obama uses Patrick's words. This is leftist ideology at its purist – no recognition of intellectual property.
Thank you to AZ for clarifying to those in doubt.
How petty can this campaign get? It's obvious the Clinton camp feels the heat of defeat breathing down its neck and will try ANYTHING to shift the focus and degrade their opponent in the public's eyes. But to try to do this with a few words that have been used in a speech, or speeches, given is pathetic even for the Clinton machine.
Where are the Clinton Whitehouse Papers detailing Hillary's failed attempt at universal healthcare????? Release the papers of don't expect to be trusted by the American people!!
Release your 07 Tax Returns so we can see how much has been donated to your "charity" by big name LOBBYISTS!!
These are two of the silliest people ever running for anything. I wouldn't vote for either. I'm voting for John McCain – an adult.
There you go! Everybody does these.....Nobody "owns" words and everyone has the right to use it. John MacCain uses "Fired up and ready to go" and hillary recently said in Ohio, "Yes we can, yes we will".....
I believe that what makes Obama special is NOT just these words, but its a combination of how he puts it, along with his tone. If these worlds come out of Edwards or Hillary's mouth, it would be one other boring detailed stuff.....
Hillary – Please don't say words are cheap. Bill makes $800K for these speeches.
Politics sucks and this really makes me hate the entire process.
That being said – OBAMA in '08!!!!!!
This is stupid. The candidates are not being evaluated for originality, but for their policies and their ability to effect those policies.
It's interesting Clinton always has something negative to say, though, while the Obama campaign must respond. It seems like the Clinton campaign is all about being negative. We voters are tired of this. She never for something (unless it's herself), she's always against something.
Her campaign is now all soundbites and backbiting. Meanwhile Obama's campaign has its hands full refuting her allegations. Clinton campaign "decider"s– you don't give us any reason to vote for your candidate– you only give us a reason to vote against your opponent.
The net result: I will not vote for Senator Clinton. All she does is slam, lie, pander, and do everything we voters hate about politicians.
Instead of repeating what the camps' PR hacks are saying, how about earning a living and writing about something that actually justifies your journalism degree.
ABG February 18th, 2008 12:44 pm ET
Senator Obama talks about change. What change has he delivered in his short political career? Words mean nothing without concrete action. He uses others' speeches and plans. I would expect nothing less from someone with little experience banking on the American people to be inspired by his speeches and "hope" he can really deliver. We have had enough of that for the last 8 years!
on the same note ABG, what "solutions" has hillary brought about?
Of course the media is at it again! Trying to make Senator Clinton look bad, but whatever!
OVER IT!
"We are fired up" and "we are ready to go" are Obama's words not to be used by anyone else? What a joke!
The national media put out the candidacy of Joseph Biden (otherwise an excellent candidate to be President) once before on the issue of plagiarism.
In fairness Obama should be held to the same standard.
This is a non issue, Hill. Try tears, again. Wayyyy more effective.
Clinton's speech in WI Saturday night was filled with references to the issues Obama raised way back in IA. She now finds value in "brining the people along with us" since Obama has said all along that this is about us, not him. He has insisted from "Day 1" that Washington must be changed before we can accomplish anything in the way of policy.
Clinton can't find a message of her own so why not steal Obama's? If she's going to give his speech, she should at least include a footnote. However, she can't deliver on those promises. Her negatives make it very unlikely she can win in Nov. but even is she could, there would be no coalition to make anything happen.
Obama can govern with broad based support. Don't let us waste another 4 years...
"Yes, we can" and "Fired up, ready to go" are both commonly used and well-known phrases. It's very hard to claim ownership in such instances. Employing commonly used phrases (Clinton, Obama) and deliberately using a unique arrangement of words (Obama's use of Patrick's speech) are two ENTIRELY different things.
Obama is back on his campaign strategy.... everyone's picking on me.... come in to the light.... come in to the light....
I'm still waiting for the 'epiphany' he tells me I'm supposed to have. I still don't see his special 'light' shining through the window.
It must be the cloud cover.
It sure doesn't sound like politics as usual when your response is, "well, she's doing it too!" Typical Obama, refusing to substantively talk about very real issues.
Goes to show Obama can't make a rational thought on his own....not surprising seeing how he answers questions about his own policies during the debate.
This man is all scripted (apparently) talk and no action.
Obama is a lying huckster who does not have an original thought in his head.
If he wins the nomination, I hope most Hillary supporters, like me, will either stay home or vote for McCain. Obama is a disaster!!
Barack Obama borrowed a few lines from a CLOSE FRIEND with his friends permission!!!
Does anyone know the definition of plagarism? It's to borrow words WITHOUT CONSENT OR ACKNOWLEDGING THE SOURCE.
Devon Patrick gave Obama permission to use these lines. I don't think Obama has given Hillary permission to use his.
My husband did a presentation a year ago and used some of these same lines and even the "just words" part of it, he was talking about inspiration without perspiration! How funny! Maybe someone will say he plagiarized some of the most famous quotes in history.
In the general election, Democratics should vote for whoever wins the nomination. Don't get so hung up on your candidate that you can't see the forrest for the trees and wind up letting Republicans win in November.
Ummm...I'm surprised that no one sees this as a problem. Yes, the plagarism thing is small, but the fact that he defends his rhetoric with more rhetoric is ridiculous. The guy has no substance, no policy or plans. Are Democrats so blind that they can't see that he won't make any changes in the White House?? He'll just give great speeches while the America we know crumbles around us because he is too busy trying to imitate MLK and trying to not make anyone mad. And Change and Hope stump speeches can not be compared to the speeches that MLK or JFK gave. Democrats are wrong if they pick him as their nominee. Hillary is obviously the best candidate, but democrats are so pathetic they'll destroy their own party in the end.
I don't get it. Have they never heard the expression the pot calling the kettle black?
The Clinton campaign keeps attacking Obama on places where they have very weak stances. Exelon. Public Funding. Now this?
Devon Patrick and Barack are close to best friends. Devon Patrick has told the press he has given this line to Obama! Hillary is the one who has stolen line after line from Obama. What a joke.
What is this woman's game plan? To give John McCain the Presidency? Cause if she keeps this up that's exactly what shes gong to do. I know this much – I will never support a Clinton again.
What a shame. Three months ago I still considered Bill and Hillary one of the leading couples of the Democratic party. It takes a lot to get on my bad side.
Beating Hilary in the primary will be more pleasurable than beating McCain in the general election.
It is pathetic that the candidates are bashing one another about this instead of focusing on the issues.
Certainly both have used the rhetoric of others in their campaigns.
Get a life!
Uh..... I believe "Fired up! Ready to go!" was borrowed by Obama in the first place. So he's accusing Hillary of borrowing a phrase that he borrowed first?
How in the heck can Clinton and her campaign attack Obama on plagiarism? Clintons and her campaign have not only used his words exactly from him but they have stolen his ideas - after he was the first to come up with "Dinner with Barack" they came with "Send in a donation and Have lunch with Hillary" and then Bill Clinton with "Have popcorn from a bowl with president Clinton and watch HIllary at the debate". The words Obama used were from famous people that Obama quoted which is not plagiarism. He and Deval have traded words for a long time, and Deval used these words too, from JFK, MLK and other famous people. Hillary Clinton is even trying to speak exactly like Obama using his cadence and his 'healing' words. Give me a break!!
Seems to me Hillary is the one who is whining. They both need to grow up.
Perhaps Senator Clinton's people should follow Senator Obama to the grocery store to ensure that he also doesn't purchase items which others ahead of him in the checkout line have also purchased. Then she'd be able to reveal that he also has no conscience in making up his own shopping list.
Would someone please explain to this woman that is running her campaign on the accomplishments(?) of her husband, and using the same catch phrases now that Obama has been using since the start of his campaign that there are more important issues to deal with than these petty complaints that seem to bother her as much as they do!
Two Tattle Tells.. Go Obama 08! No Clinton/s 08.
I wonder how Cezar Chavez feels about Obama stealing, excuse me, sampling his "Yes We Can" slogan (Sí se peude). And the "Fired up" stuff he even admits having co-opted from a minister down south.
I knew there was something fake about Obama...Now that confirms my belief!
OBAMA IS A FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama’s entire speech was almost exactly like Deval’s speech from 2006. Under any other circumstances this is considered plagiarism.
This is not the change I want.
HILLARY 2008THE SMART CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!
Most people seem to be forgetting that most, if not all, of Obama's rhetoric is borrowed from John Edwards' 2004 and early 2008 campaigns. That "YES WE CAN" slogan was used originally by Edwards, and he coined the whole "change" movement before Obama took off with it. So Obama, of all people, should keep quiet about who lifted whose speeches.
I apologize for echoing the "language" and "shared ideas" of fellow posters, but please grow up.
So What ! Do you know how many speeches or words have been taking from other speeches ! Please, let's stay focus on the issues.
It is all over for Hillary. The leadership of the democratic party better
start to realize this soon, before they allow the Clintons to totally
blow up the party and make McCain the absolute winner.
Who is in charge? Pelosi, Reid, Dean???
Are you people serious?
Again we don't need a woman with all the emotional tricks running the White House. This is very childish and I think Clinton camp have shown their weakness. They had to regroup the staff and this is their best shot....... LOL Talking about experience & unorganized.......This is not what I look forward to in the years to come. She has not managed her camp, so how do you expect her to manage America. The trickery of a woman should not be underestimated. (Adam & EVE) Guess what, I see right through Hillary R.Clinton..............RU serious people.........IT only takes common sense, not the media.
OH come on, is Obama saying that he's the only one to use the "Change" word. Oh come on, try Bush. Scarey isn't it. He's making all the same promises Bush did, also with no answers forcoming. I'm sorry but at this time in our history, we need someone who knows what's going on and how to get things done. Until we get out of this mess Bush got us into, I don't care if it's the same ol same ol politics, if it gets the job done for now. We're too fragile right now for a newbee to learn at our country's expense. That is what I wish Obama would really think about. OUR COUNTRY and not his personal wants & needs. Once he's got experience and knows how to get things done, then he may be a good president.
This is the kindergarten papers thing all over from the Billary campaign. Big yawn to Billary.
If a candidate's only strategy for winning is to dig up dirt on their opponent than that's what they'll do while in office. What the world needs is a candidate that can earn back our country's respect in the world and that starts with the leader's character. Both Barrack and McCain have great character and that's what country needs.
Why are you all saying that Obama is whining? He is just trying to show you all the Hillary isn't always telling facts and that she is the master of spin. Why is it when he merely points out the facts do you say he is being a baby? Hillary is the one trying to be the bully and pull these old washington tricks. Well, I am on to her and hope so much she doesn't win. I just can't take all this BS! I have a feeling these next two debates will be utterly Worthless! Please lets talk about policy not she said he said again...jeez.
If this is Hillary's technique to win then her ship is going down. It shows her desperation. Does everyone now have to start crediting their speechwriter? " According to my speechwriter, I have the solutions..." Phuleeze. Give me a break.
LOL BHO ! Please, BHO's entire speech was taken from Deval. If he's going to come back with an attack at least say something substantial. No one' s listening to you anymore.
To Senator Clinton: I thought that words did not matter.
Baraxk Began using FIRED UP READY TO GO during mid-2007. It was created by an Obama supporter in South Carolina and was then adopted by the Obama campaign as a rallying cry across the country.
Please be infomed before you say that he copied it from Clinton, he didnt!
Just further proof that Billary is the most polarizing politician alive. If she wins the nomination & the presidency (god help us) there will be nothing but the worst gridlock & partisan politics in the history of congress. Nothing will get accomplished. That's the big picture period!!!
BO has demonstrated once again that he doesn't have an original thought! He's praised for all his speaking ability, but even that is not his own. Go Hillary!!!
Yes We Can and Fired Up, Ready to Go were not invented by Obama and almost every campaign would use phrases like these.
Copying someone else's speeches is a whole different matter especially when you are promoting change.
Their ship is sinking, and as expected, Bill and Hillary are going down kicking and screaming. They don't seem to realize that their scorched-earth, vindictive, paranoid, win-at-all costs mentality is the very reason so many of their fans have become so disillusioned with them.
They should exit gracefully and preserve some shred of dignity for themselves. Of course, we all know that will never happen. Very sad.
ACTUALLY, obama lifted YES WE CAN from Bob the Builder a show that's been on PBS longer than Obama has been in the senate. which was like a hot minute anyway.... hope those writers are getting royalties.
This pretty much ended Biden's presidential run when it was revealed that he "borrowed" speeches. But I think Obama's supporters have had too much kool aid to notice that their candidate is all rhetoric and no action...I'm sorry, all "borrowed" rhetoric and no action.
No one is dignified in this jr high talk about who said what.
Stay focused on issues, how is it going to change so we can buy our groceries, get our gas, pay our mortgages (or rent), pay our taxes, pay our health care, and still save. .How is the governement going to lower our taxes; seek new energy supports; what's going to be done to help our soliders come home, and still help the Iraz people to reamin free and stablized in their land? Answer the questions by giving your ideas. We want this election to be true issued focused. We are so much stronger as a nation when the focus is about bringing us all together. Stop the bickering.
Oh my God, how is he going to handle some world leaders who want to destroy America and what it stands for. He needs to be stopped before its to late.
Words mean nothing to either. They say what they think their people want to hear. Clinton is worse about it than Obama but at least she throws in a specific every now and then. He just talks in high minded rhetoric anyone could agree with. The devil as always is in the details which he is very fuzzy on.
Too bad Hillary's only supporters are apparently on these boards, otherwise she would hold more than 1/3 of the wins up to now. "Fired up" is a longtime military slogan that doesn't belong to anyone, but Clinton has, for the entire campaign, taken slogans and ideas from the Obama campaign. Which is why it's amazing that she would even bring this up.
actually s.b. Obama used "Fired up and ready to go" in Durham, N.C. long before the Iowa caucus. Nice try, but I am sorry you don't know what you are talking about.
and these two are uniters?? HAHAHAHA - Whats wrong with democrats?!? This is just sad
As I sit here and read this I wonder how far her campain will try to take this into the mud. We all thought there is no way the democrats could burn there own barn but I think Sen. Clinton would take it there if she had to just for the nomination and ruin the presidential campain for the dems in the process.
Anyone can give speeches, but it is how they are delivered . Obama has true sincerity and concern for the American voters. Where HC only has a sincerity to return to the White House, and willing to include the Florida MIchigan delegates, disregarding the voters choice.
Notice he is a man of his words, did not campaign in Florida and Michigan as agreed upon.
AJ, don't worry, many Hillary supporters are staying home because this primary has been so undemocratic and a sham.
YES!!!!!!!!!
Who cares if this is a non-story?? We've got Drudge and CNN hyping it like it actually matters! And the idiots who watch CNN and read Drudge will now think that it matters!! Hillary all the way to the White House, baby!!!
You go Eddie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Voters are caught up in his mountain of promise, hope and internet- along with the unpres. "obama girl" Arent people embarraced – allowing themselves to be taken in by such a typical candidate.
He gives himself too much credit.
Hillary's not running on a hope and change platform.....Obama is....the point is Barack ,you're slowly getting exposed as non-original and someone who will not change anything. I just hope America figures it out in time.
Obama has the right to defend himself against ridiculous attacks from the Clinton camp - I hardly would construe his comments as "whining." And to those who say that he has no substance, you obviously have not been paying attention. Look at his website and try actually LISTENING to the man with an open mind and you will hear his policies and ideas.
Come on, Hillary, you know it's over - I have faith that one day I will vote for a woman for President, but that woman is NOT you!
Aj I totally agree with you.....I will vote for McCAin if i have to I will not ever vote for obama he is sweet talker and that is it...............I wonder ,he doesn't have a clue about the US Presidency ..he
EXPERIENCE:
- In 1992, Bill was competing with Bush (2-VP, 1-President), what experience did Bill had other than a governer of a small southern state?
- Just because someone has experience doesn't make him/her qualified. It's all about being "smart". His judgements are good compared to Hillary who NEVER accepts her mistakes.
When asked about any question or about any mistake she did, instead of answering the questions, she starts to blame him.
BOTH THEIR PLANS / POLICIES ARE ALMOST SAME, I DON'T NEED ANY BORING LECTURES FROM THE CANDIDATES......AS THOUGH HE/SHE IS BORN TO SAVE THE POOR.
Despite the insane agenda's–bordering on socialism–and getting much support from the U.S Democratic Socialist Party...because of their "Robin Hood" agenda's, and love of bureaucratic management of everything from aids–to zoology, these two morons are leading.
I was a lifelong Democrat. Now I'm an independent.
The silly posturing, the sweeping programs to address some of the least important priorities–all make them seem opportunistic and shallow.
Who cares who they qoute, steal from, or plagiarize!! Their message is one and the same. And it's scary!!
If you don't have a lot of your own words, took from others' speeches would be fine by the Obama's standard.
There is one very big difference here though. One candidate has based their candidacy on the power of words, the other on the power of actions and results. So which one of these platforms suffers more from accusations of plagiarism? Sen. Obama needs to be held accountable for every hypocritical detail that emerges in this campaign, in the same way that Sen. Clinton is. Its not negative, its not petty fighting, it is a push for some much needed accountability!
This is not news CNN
I don't understand why anyone really cares about whether someone 'stole' speeches. The candidates don't write the speeches anyway.
Don't we have more important things to think about than nit-picking about speeches? What's important is how each of these candidates will deal with very serious problems that America has, such as getting troops our of Iraq, the economy, jobs, etc.
Squabbling over speeches? Stupid. Get a life, people. Concentrate on the serious issues.
I'm really tired of Hillary and her tactics. I was on the fence but she's getting ridiculous. If she wins the nomination I'm going to hold my nose and vote for McCain
This is getting a little silly now. The original point that was being made is that Obama talks about change and how he practices a different kind of politics and yet he copies speeches other politicians have made – or makes speeches where the message is very very similar. The point was not the exact copying, but the fact that what he was saying was not his original idea, it was not this incredible change from politics we are already seeing.
Hillary had and still has to some extent the problem that she was the "inevitable" candidate and now no longer looks inevitable. Obama is running into a problem now also. He is the "change" candidate that does not look very different from other candidates. His "change" is Duvall's speech from 2006 (and also Hillary's economic plan).
Obama, you lose all your clout as a "uniter" and "above the fray" when you play tit-for-tat.
You are proving to be "more of the same" for Washington with such silliness, despite your claim to the opposite.
Obama won't debate Hillary!
... oh he's debated her 18 times and there's 2 more scheduled ... nevermind.
Obama says things that sound like someone else who had a similar message!
..oh Hillary's copying Obama's exact wording of several signature campaign themes ... nevermind.
Then there was that whole foolish message from Hillary's campaign about what Obama said when he was in kindergarten. (1) Sheesh
It is becoming increasingly obvious that Hillary has NOTHING relevant to say. She should go back to her carpetbagging in NY and leave running the country to somebody with substance.
(1) Quote from Time magazine about Hillary Clinton's foolishness: She even went so far as to dig up a kindergarten essay of Obama's entitled "I Want to Be President" to accuse him of lying about not having a lifelong lust for the Oval Office. "
In Obama's speech where he stole the "just words" speech, he also stole "roll up our sleeves" from Hillary. He has also stolen a line from the film Man of the Year with Robin Williams: "We are not a nation of red states or of blue states; we are the United States of America".
He is a cry baby. He knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to real hard work. He is a 19th century stump salesman selling false working goods. He talks a good deal–don't buy it, you'll get burned. I am so sick of everyone having to go back and explain what he really said, what he really did, why he was present and no vote, why Regan was good for anything, why he (voted????) against the war. Get real people this job is not for small boy's. Did you learn nothing with Bush?
"Fired Up, Ready to Go" is an Obama's signature pharse? Uh, I first heard that pharse by watching the Power Rangers years ago. This was by far the worse come back by the Obama's camp, you copied other people ideas, Hillary was just using a common phrase that society have been used for a LONG time!
Full disclosure:
I voted and intend on voting (in the GE) for Obama.
Regardless of who wins the primary nod, the Clinton camp is bringing this election to a much lower level on a daily basis. This will only ultimately HURT the party.
Contrary to your belief Mrs. Clinton, this isn't "fun", it isn't flattering, and it will only ensure McCain's presidency.
Cut it out. Your win at all costs method is disgusting. Grow up and act like an adult who wants to be one of the most respected people in this country!!!
I tell you what all of you who don't like Obama, run for president
yourselves and see how far you get...
I agree with Joann. All I hear is whining and complaining like a school child from the Obama camp. Also, I'm sick of hearing him say change, change, change. Are there any specifics to this change? I haven't heard anything except the word used over and over like pointless rhetoric. It's like when Bush gives a speech overusing the words freedom or liberty. The words lose their meaning.
The "Yes, We Can" slogan isn't exactly original either. Didn't Sammy Davis, Jr. write a book called "Yes, I can" a long time ago?
CNN put her audiences away, poeple tired on CNN's bias, come on! CNN, you need to keep your neutrality when you report, this is your position.
Neutral !!! Worf.
Hillary's campaign has chosen to use Obama's words in an attempt to confuse voters, good try but it won't work. Hillary's constant attacks on Obama won't work either but she has nothing else to offer as a result of her campaign derailing. Obama is simply the best. Vote Obama.
Obama is guilty of using Cesar Chavez slogan "Si Se Puede" aka "Yes we can". So don't tell me he is not guilty of using other peoples words or slogans. Google, Cesar Chaves slogan, and see what come up. Who is guilty now?
No matter if you support Obama or Clinton, the below are facts:
1.) The Clinton campaign has understimated the Obama campaign from the start.
2.) The Clinton campaign is alienating Obama supporters for the general election, if she indeed wins the nomination. Obama supporters will not just roll over and play dead and vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination, and thst is because of campaign tacticts like this.
3.) The Clinton campaign needs to realize that if she is nominated, she will need every vote she can get in the general election...and distractions such as this will not benefit the Clinton campaign in the long run. Inedependents and republicans will surely side with Mccain if Clinton is the democratic choice.
Ok children. Time to grow up. Issues, issues, issues – that's where it's at. Stop wasting your time and ours.
Hillary borrows Obama's rhetoric, as noted in the news article.
Is that the best Obama can do? Think that he has invented every good idea, and every good cliche??? He is an egotist. Every politician talks about change, and every politician uses similar cliches to catch attention. Does Obama think he is the only one who people listen to???
Good luck Obama. Hillary will win anyway.
Way to play snitch hillary. Remember how people treated Linda Tripp for snitching. Poor form.
I like how Hillary says "words don't matter" but now that she has changed her message yet again those same words do matter? I don't get the logic.
There's a difference between using common catch phrases and lifting entire sections from other people's speeches. The issue for me is that Obama campaign has some how manged to elevate their candidate above having his authenticity questioned...and the questioning is just beginning. If this is an example of the response we should expect from him and his organization on this minor topic, I have to wonder how he will perform handling significant challenges.
Hillary's camp started it. Went through the trouble of matching up two YouTube videos side by side. Obama had to answer. The thing is, you can't copyright catch phrases. I mean how many ways can you say something like I have the answers or I want to make a change? Eventually they are all going to sound like someone else. They all sound alike anyway. Clinton is grasping at straws. She thought she would have this locked up by now. She thought she was the anointed one – the entitled one. Watch the movie ELECTION with Reese Witherspoon. Hillary is just like that character.
Obama has the support of the people's words that he has used. Hillary doesn't.
To all Obama supporters:
Let's be quite frank: when someone makes a speech using almost the same WORDS as those used in the speech of someone else, that is called PLAGIARISM !
When Obama PLAGIARIZES some other politician, it only means that he is starting to be short on arguments and ideas.....how sad!!!!
It's a shame Obama didn't over-rule Governor Patrick who didn't want credit by saying "to quote Governor Patrick .......", but Clinton's use of Obama's slogans is unforgivable.
I am an Obama supporter but frankly getting sick of both their whining. This is ridiculous!!! And I hope they get to the issues and not these silly little comments. It's absolutely ridiculous on both parts. Hillary shouldn't have started and Obama shouldn't have responded. Obama, focus on other things and let's win this!!
Well at least Obama didn't quote any words from her, but I can testify that I have heard Hillary and her fans using Yes We Can on several occasion. You know what, it okay when you ranout of ideas , words and borrow from the best. Hillary there is a saying if you can't beat them you join them, so it is okay you borrow ideas and words from our next president obama. You won't be charged, becuase you used it for a good course.
Yes We Can.
I will be mad if I hear Obama using Hillary ideas of taken money from lobbyiest and specail interest. Hillary also copy Obama economic plans. You know what guys it is good if Hillary copied Obama, because it shows Obama is more knowledgeable. Hillary keep copying there more words and ideas from our next President Obama
This will be my first time to vote republican if Obama is nominated. To the conment by the DEMOCRAT, where is YOUR tax returns. I would dare say that all the people that that you call old and uneducated supporters of Hillary Clinton paid for the educations of the Obama supporters which has not been paid back yet. In fact Obama didn't pay his back until he started running for President..
Nina
Arkansas
Ha ha ha! So what if a mimic stole some words from someone else?
St. Obama is perfect in every way, he is the light, the truth, and they only WAY!!!! Bow down to him and praise his plagiarized bellowing!
George W. Bush used "fired up" repeatedly when first going into Iraq. Wonder if he knew that Obama trademarked the phrase first...
Hillary Proves she is and will always be a loooooooooooser.
For Christ sake. We have had a president for the last 8 years who is a traitor. He has caused his own country to fall. He has caused the death of his countrymen. If you believe we need more of this vote for Clinton or McCain. They both have been involved in help create this mess. Also a healthy dose of blame goes to the American people. They have allowed their elected officials to run amok. But the only chance of change and a new start is Barack Obama. He has not been fully tainted by Washington yet. Clinton and McCain have.
My god America you twice elected a retarded, knuckle dragging idiot. Bush's credential were running a state that was worst in the nation in just about everything, worst polluter, worse womens health, etc.
To s.b. – Actually, Obama has been using the phrase for months prior to the Iowa primary. I heard him speak in November 2007 and he told the story about the meaning behind the phrase. Perhaps you should attend one of his rallies so that you can get the facts.
I am tired of the "lack of specifics" charge against Obama. His campaign website has policy manifestoes which have as much detail as those of Hillary Clinton.
Why is Hillary the default "expert" on policy? This argument is a new type of attack. Not racism or sexism, but agism and I am sick of it.
Let's see, Obama plagarizes the work of others.
His principle advisor Ted Kennedy is involved in an exam cheating scandal when he was an undergrad and had to be bailed out by his Daddy's money.
This seems to be a trend that needs to be watched.
When is Obama going start drawing from the Gettysburg address or the Lincoln Douglas debates. There is untapped wealth in FDR's speeches.
Perhaps he should review some of Theodore Roosevelts remarks such as:
In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.
In this country we have no place for hyphenated Americans.
And lastly:
When they call the roll in the Senate, the senators do not know whether to answer 'present' or 'guilty.'
If the originator of the 'rhetoric' says that the two parties often 'share' then where's the 'plagiarism' come in? This is much a do about nothing. First of all, every campaign does it even if the other party isn't 'sharing'. Secondly, CNN must have a slow political news day today.
With Romney gone, this stuff is just fodder for the Repubs and entertainment for CNN.
Obama didn't just use one phrase, he used a number of them, the same ones Deval did. And he has been accused of this before.
Further, every politician uses the word change; Bill did it, Carter did it, etc. Obama isn't using anything origninal. And the Yes We Can thing- stole from Bush in 2000. And the uniter thing- stole from Bush in 2000. Does this guy have anything original to say?
Hillary wants to be elected based on the her plans- Obama wants to be elected based on the words of other successful Americans.
We can't mess up America anymore, we can't have Bush or Bush-clone Hillary and McCain as US President anymore, not at this time. We need to bring America together NOT divide it, promote partisanship and cause more needless chaos in America and around the world. America needs to have a good economy, it needs to be United, it needs prosperity,and integrity, honesty, responsiblity in politics. NO MORE Empty Manipulative Neocon Politics. US President Barack Obama IS THE ONLY Answer.
To anyone who posts comments like 'Obama has no substance' please also post whether you've a) read his book Audacity of Hope and b) the positions he's articulated on his website.
Same goes for Hillary bashers. Have you read her books and her positions?
Where do you people get your info? From the news media? The same news media that covers Britney Spears and Paris Hilton 100x more than anything substantive.
Hillary,
Give up your dream of presidency and quit. You are such a loser and a sore one at that.
Go OBAMA!!
Hillary should be ashamed of her mis-managed camp. She has failed at everything she's ran because of this behavior. She all about scandals. So is Bill. I can't believe he handle the heckler episode in that manner.
Never got universal health care done and never will because of this behavior.
Speaking of signature phrases: "Yes we can" = "Sí se puede"–the motto of the United Farm Workers (thank you Cesar Chavez). UFW incidentally endorsed Sen. Clinton last month.
The more i watch of Obama, the more glad i am that i voted for Hillary. We need more than vague speeches about hope to fix this country. I get my hope from the strength of Hillary's policies, and the determination and tenacity she has shown throughout her career.
Main thing to remember if you do not vote, you can not complain regardless of who you vote for ,and you do not, as a result make a difference.
This is so petty and desperate of the Hillary campaign. Is this part of the "solutions business" that America needs from the Hillary camp? The media reports on a non-story and the Hillary camp is so desperate for something against Obama that they take it and run with it.
Unfortunately, Obama's campaign has to get involved in such silliness because Hillary's campaign wants the Democratic party to be distracted.
Obama in 08!
People keep complaining that words not substance are Obama's only strength....I guess we can subtract the words, too.
If I wanted a "positive attitude" leader, I'd skip the election and search the self-help section at my library. I want substance.
Adam, Plano, TX – I suggest you seek out the comments of her constituents in the state of NY, where she has served as Senator for the last 2 terms. They have all been very glowing. Additionally, they re-elected her by overwhelming majority, a sign that she has made improvements, and she carried the state easily in the primary, another sign they are very happy with her performance. A little research goes a long way. After your research is complete, put the records side by side. There is truly not a comparison.
Obama is full of hot air, and doesn't have the creativity to come up with his own ideas.
He's got you all fooled, Obamazombies Wake up and smell the crap he's feeding you
PLOUFFFFE!! There goes the air out of Obama the gasbag. Our country needs original thought and action to undo the Bush mess. Hillary can fix it.
This is pretty petty on both candidates part...I just wonder if too much damage has not already been done.
Clinton supporters, if Obama wins the nomination will you choose to vote for McCain? If not, how can you support someone that you villify so readily?
Obama supporters, what if Hillary comes back to win, whether thru the popular vote or due to superdelegates support? Will you find it possible to campaign as vigorously for her as you have for Obama?
If you can't answer yes to these questions, then I think Mccain is a shoe in and you can all blame yourselves for that.
Be careful everyone: Should Obama pay royalties to Pelosi for using the word "change?"
I love the term "lifted rhetoric" Isn't repetition kinda entwined in the definition of rhetoric?
The change that all candidates are offering is insulting to anyone with basic math skills. The Federal government has about a 15% efficiency rate in taking your money and redistributing it. Give that money to the Salvation Army, or any one of a hundred other efficient and caring charities, and you would increase that to over 90% instantly.
Yes we can – Si se puede – Caesar Chavez – Need I say more????
Obama knows how to create his own words, for attacking other people only.
obama is O BITER
Billary are lying hucksters who do not have an original thought in their collective head.
If they win the nomination, I hope that most Obama supporters, like me, will either stay home or vote for McCain. Billary was a disaster in '92 and '96, they'll be a bigger disaster in '08!
Borrowed or not, Obama's rhetoric got this Republican female to switch sides and it is people like me who will sway the election. He is original because he asks us to pony up, to be apart of the solutions he is proposing. When you have that kind of mandate behind you, things are going to get done, and they will be not HER solutions, but OUR solutions. BO is asking us to get involved – and people from all over who usually stay home are getting off their duffs to become engaged. Call it what you want – I call that progress.
Obama actually has the balls to complain that Hillary used "his" Yes We Can? Hello Barack, some of us KNOW history and just cause it was in espanol doesn't mean that "Yes We Can" belongs to you. Cesar Chavez deserves to be recognized for basically handing Obama his entire campaign slogan.
"Did not !" "Did too!" "Did not!" "Did too". Good Grief !Aaaaaaarrrrrgggggh !
O BITER SUCKS
"Yes we can" was a Cesar Chavez slogan. Mr. Chavez would not object to any, well intentioned person using it. This election is about real, worthwhile change and the experience and political savy to make it happen. Senator Clinton has that. Her opponent has eloquent speech and charismatic smiles. Too bad that is not enough when dealing with Washington insiders, corporate CEO's and World leaders.
Im taking my ball...AND GOING HOME!
The issue is whether we want talk or action in the White House. The choice is clear between the Democrats.
However, we MUST have a Democrat for President this time. We cannot afford more of the same. So, my fellow Democrats, don't be so crazy about whether it's Hillary or Barack – either one is so much better than the alternative.
Those Obama supporters that say they will vote for McCain over Clinton – and those Clinton supporters saying the same thing – you don't make any sense. We're not voting for Mr. or Ms. Likeable Lovely here – we need a change in direction, period.
There is a HUGE difference between the Democratic and Republican parties and their interests.
Oh this is just stupid........
The nerve of Billary to claim Obama lifted a speech from one of his best friends...what a joke! Especially when she is constantly stealing from him. I wish people would be more informed before they posting dumb comments. Well it's pretty obvious why smart people chose Obama.
We saw none of this several months ago when Hillary was ahead by 20 point. Senator Obama and Senator Edwards continued to discuss their vision and issues.
Who do you think is responsible for this negative turn in the campaign? He is a liar, a plagarist, a flip-flopper, blah, blah, blah.
I argue that Senator Obama is a REAL LEADER and Senator Clinton is not. She has resorted to the same old politics when she started to lose.
If Senator Obama does not respond to these numerous attacks, he will be swift boated.
I HOPE for REAL CHANGE.
Hillary copies from OBAMA himself...
look...Yes, we can
Fired up, ready to go
Change that you can believe in
what next "AUDACITY OF HOPE"
OBAMA 08
Hahaha Well Obama doesnt write his speeches. That's the problem, unlike MLK who's words were his own. People are finally clueing into BO. Just a whole lot of words (not even his own) and not much else there. I figured that out a long time ago. welcome!!! PS wonder if he plagiarized in Harvard too.
Anyone who votes for Hillary Clinton needs to realize that if you put her in the White House this is what we're going to get for 4 years. When she doesn't get what she wants she attacks using the most petty tactics possible. Hey Hillary...Americans are dying in Iraq because you voted to send them there! Americans are losing jobs and their homes! And all you can come up with is that Barack Obama used the same words as someone else. You are truly a dispicable woman!
She also recently used John Kerry's campaign line from 2004, "Help is on the way!"
This "contretemps" will not change anyone's minds.
First, this is getting childish. Remember who started the complaining though. Barack started his campaign ignoring attacks and now feels it necessary to strike back even at these blatantly petty attacks.
Second, anyone claiming plagiarism needs to get a law book. It is simply good public speeking to use key phrases from great speeches. As far as the language used in campaigns, speech writers share ideas all the time. The important thing is not to use an idea without the knowledge/permission of the original author.
Deval has already shared that he has traded with Obama repeatedly.
What we should be focusing on is who says what they believe and can do what they say.
Other than that, this is simply an attempt to throw as much mud as possible and see if anything sticks.
The Republicans must LOVE this. I can't believe these primarys have gotten SO petty. If we Dems don't WAKE UP, we will be in Iraq for 100 more years, bomb Iran,have more tax breaks for the super rich and looking like complete idiots to the rest of the world. All this infighting is just going to be ammunition to the republicans this fall whether it be Clinton or Obama.
This is just silly. Obama should not follow the Clinton's lead in this petty direction.
Good Lord people. I think they both need a time out. A time out to re-group and to get focused on the real issues. This tit for tat stuff is such a turn off.
Sheila
Hillary Clinton is handing this right over to McCain........
Oh my. . . . you mean we've never heard "Yes, we can" and "Fired up, ready to go" prior to Barack Obama? Give me a break, Obama camp – I don't think Obama can claim he has the copyright to these phrases – they've been around for awhile and are not new.
However, I do understand why the Obama camp would be upset. After all, the catchy slogans and phrases seem to be the main thrust of his campaign. Personally, I'd rather hear and see real solutions.
CNN – How pathetic you are! This isn't much of news and you make a big scene out of it! We should really watch out the quality of your news team!
Oh, my! Hillary said something SIMILAR to Obama...once, almost 2 months ago! That is really reaching for something to complain about. Obama plagairizes so much...he is just hype. And I think FINALLY others are realizing it.
The Clinton campaign is grasping at straws. This shows their ultimate desperation. I think it is great, but I wish Barack would stay out of it. The Clintons are showing their true selves. He should let them do it. Have faith in the American people to see their faults rather than saying "Well they did it too". We understand that this is a petty and silly argument that they are making and will vote accordingly.
Oh and again the Clintons get burned by trying to say something before they have all the facts. 1st she says she will send out former presidents Clinton and Bush to make friends with other countries, to which former president Bush says "no way". Now she says Obama plagerised to which Deval Patrick says "No way"
I have never witnessed a U.S. Presidential candidate running such a negative campaign like Billary! The more we go through the campaign the more Americans see the real Billaries. They play dirty politics, imitate every move of candidate, no creativity, manipulators...They are the masters of old politics, which is creeping this country. They look so much alike third world politicians.
They will do anything to win, and that is why almost all American politicians who have a reputation of being honest stand behind Obama. That is why the highly educated households and college graduates follow the path, because they are not easy to manipulate. Have Hillary's supporters thought about that?
Change is coming...
Stop the madness and talk about issues of substance.
Get real. We ( Americans) want to hear substance of the real issues, not who did what about meaningless items. These two are fighting for the highest office of the most free country in the world and all they can come up with is who stole what words. God help us if this is meaningful
It seems as if Obama has run out of his own rhetoric and started using someone else’s rhetoric. He’ll be speaking the words of Hillary before long!
Hilary 08 and 12!!!!!!!!
Can they talk about issues rather than this petty stuff?
It's a waste of technology.
This is THE dumbest story I have ever heard.. people just need something to dispute
so sad so sad for obama. first it was rezko, then it was copying Clinton's economic plan, now it is plagiarism. what next? i smell corruption.
All of American politics is plagiarism! Look at the rhetoric of the Republican party! Little of it has changed in 40 years. Indeed, any reputable academic will tell you that originality is contingent on all of the works that go before it. All you can do is acknowledge your use of sources and material as meticulously as possible – something the current format of "one-up" politics does not allow.
For either camp or candidate to focus on banal topics like this smells of desperate tactics aimed only at winning (and none more so than the Clinton campaign). If politicians care about citizens as much as they claim, they will make this campaign about the issues – not themselves. All of this is simply white noise to distract people from grappling with the problems themselves. But this is something that is hard to hear for people so bound to our current method of vetting candidates.
CNN has to report the facts and Obama is clearly plagrizing. The spin from Obama campaign about the Senator Clinton using YES WE CAN is not considered plagirism.
Obama is a lying huckster who does not have an original thought in his head.
If he wins the nomination, I hope most Hillary supporters, like me, will either stay home or vote for McCain. Obama is a disaster!!
Donot trust CNN, I can not post my message
Hillary, I thought you were going to focus on "Solutions, not Speeches"?
This type of nonsense is why your campaign has almost disintegrated over the last few weeks.
Thankfully, after March 4 when Hillary fails to achieve a convincing victory over Obama in TX, she will be forced to concede for the good of the party.
And then we can move on to the Rovian attacks from McCain's camp.
Hillary has changed herself, her image and her message so many times, she doesn't know who she is ... and either do we. Wait a minute! We do know ... and that's why we aren't ushering her to the throne with her tinfoil crown askew.
She's been stealing lines, policies and positions depending on her audience. She's a fine one to criticize anyone because no matter what she talks about, it's outta both sides of her mouth.
man, what an airbag.
Shame on both campaigns and on CNN. The MSM should just laugh when this is pointed out. What if CNN, et al, replied to HRC's camp whining abt Obama's "plaigarism" with something like: "Are you kidding me? You want me to report on THAT? Wouldn't you prefer we report on ISSUES?"
This is just silly now. And also, anyone who thinks any of this has anything to do with who can and should run this country deserves whatever they get.
Look it is simple, the messages are going to be the same almost anywhere int he world.
Example:
Gov. Patrick: Together We Can
Obama: Yes We Can
Jamaica Labour Party of 2007: Together, Yes We Can!
Not a big deal, just saying.
It doesn't matter who the next president will be......no matter who has been or who will be.......they were never their for the people, its all about power and money. Sad,very sad!!! I'm just happy that BUSH will no longer be the president.
Really folks, they are not that far apart on significant policy issues. So it comes down to- do you want a family in office that thinks nothing of tearing down others to get ahead? That hides their records. That turn their heads to the side when subordinate women are getting "hit on" sexually at the workplace. Who scream foul when they put their 28-year old baby girl out on the stump, but no reporters are allowed to talk to her? Who treat Americans like we are victims...and how will we ever manage without them? No sir, as a lifelong Republican who was disappointed in GWB because he did not callupon his nation to act, I respect the fact that Sen. Obama has asked us to be a part of his change. He doesn't have the arrogance to say he has all the answers. He is asking us to be a part of the process – of the solutions. I like that. I like being respected like that. And I am crossing the aisle to vote for him specifically because as him as leader, we too, can be the Greatest Generation.
Sorry Clintonians or should I say Rovians
"Yes We Will"–check it out on old Billary's web site. The woman is not only uninspiring, she's done nothing in the Senate but name government buildings and post offices. Check out her sterling record. Oh yes, she's also married to a loud mouth.
Fox News is just a little more childish than CNN is being with these stories. I might as well go to TMZ.com for news.
As a canadian I have truely been interested in watching the coverage of the presidential election. I find listening and watching the clintons and especially hillary is that they really will go to any crookeded end to win won't they? If she thinks Obama is stealing any words from her she should be flattered and she sure is stealing lots of his phrases isn't she. Her campaign is really a failure compared to his and I hope for america's future with a president like Obama.
It's bad enough that all Sen. Obama has is talk...it would be nice if even that wasn't borrowed!
Why do my comments never get posted?? Is CNN pro-Obama?
This is not news.
Iowian fired up...you better have sme ohio people fired up not a cacus that has been over for months
poor Obama She did it to boo hoo boo hoo
Excuse me! I thought "Fired up and ready to go" was just one of those little sayings many people say at different times. It surely wasn't created by Obama. I've been hearing that saying long before we ever heard of Obama!
Senator Biden had to quit the race for less. Somebody hold Obama accountable!!!!
Wolf, Why have we not heard from CNN regarding the Larry Sinclair allegations against Obama. I know this is a sleaze charge but what if it 's true? If this had come out against Bill Clinton the Media would have a field day. True or false most people would like to know.
It does not matter who copies whose words, people are smart enough to understand and make the choices accordingly – Let's not fight this tit for tat war.
Come on people,
America deserves better than this!!! She is negative,will be negative and will try everything to win this nomination as if the Presidency of the United States was her legacy.
Billary stop your negative ads campaign and the misrepresentation of the facts about Obama.
Like Ghandi, first they ignore you,then they ridicule you,then they fight you,then you win,,
Vote Obama,
Women for Obama
Obama never has anything original to say, never! He invokes any OLD ray of of OLD hope he can find. He has no ideas, no plans, no solutions! Smoke and mirrors and lets all go to church and sing! He isn't even fit to have a beer with, or shoot baskets with, or listen to his empty, (copied) words!
Hahahahah, you guys are sooooooooo funny. Who cares what they say anyways. Obama should have known better, the Clintons are ready to prey on any single mistake he makes, just ask the Republicans. Now Democrats are starting to know why Republicans hate the Clintons so much. First, Obama is anti-abortion, then he supported the war, now he plagiarises? hahahahaha..... just get rid of the clintons before they destroy the Democratic party. They gave the congress away, gave our jobs away (NAFTA), mess around with all the interns, I guess bill is not done yet.
So does Obama have an intellectual patent of some sorts on the cliches of "fired up" and "ready to go"? Since when did plagiarism include the use of such common phrases in the vernacular?
"Yes We Can" is not original to the Obama campaign either. "Yes We Can" or "Si Se Puede" was the rally cry of Cesar Chavez and thousands of UFW workers in the filelds of California during the 1960"s. For the Obama campaign to use that slogan, they should at least give credit where credit is due. The same should be for the Patrick speach.
Obama's great HOPE was that no one would notice his borrowed speeches.
I'm OBAMA REPUBLICAN and this is very absurd for the CLINTONS to talk about it as an issue. YEs we CAN was brought by OBAMA and READY to go is OBAMA as well as fired up to go is OBAMA. This is not Plagiarization at all. It is used by everybody and even McCain says CHANGE on his campaign. HILLARY YOU ARE JUST TOO MUCH
And in the meantime, Huckabee goes bowling...
There is nothing wrong with words, but empty words. If your words say you are against lobbyists, but you actually get money from them. That is wrong.
Here's a phrase they BOTH can use: Git R Done!
Hillary Clinton stealing Obama's key phrases is much, much worse because she is trying to take away his signature lines whereas Obama riffing on Patrick doesn't strike a person as stealing so much as riffing off of a trusted friend with permission.
Hillary is truly a criminal and this will all come out if the is the nominee.
So Obama says that I am allowed to cheat or murder or take bribe because you do the same?
Is this same old politics? Is Obama trying to imply that he is a crook if Clinton is a crook?
Man, this is sad. Kool air drinkers wont see thru the facade of this. America is about to be ruined by Obama!!
Talk about dirty politics. Obama fires off a youtube video as Wolfson is on his call. Like that wasn't a calculated plan to divert attention to Obama and his cry baby antics. Obama you still need time to mature. You are in no way ready to be president.
this is just making me dislike the democratic party. Seriously.... thank god mccain is a moderate because if the democratic party keeps this up I will not be voting democrat!
Honestly, who cares what was borrowed from who? Tell me something about the economy, foreign policy, health care...
In Obama's speech where he stole the "just words" speech, he also stole "roll up our sleeves" from Hillary. He has also stolen a line from the film Man of the Year with Robin Williams: "We are not a nation of red states or of blue states; we are the United States of America".
Careful. If we continue along this ridiculous pathway, we may be sitting on the sidelines watching good 'ol McCain carry the ball over the goal line into another 4 years of Bush/Cheney policies. "Borrowing rhetoric" doesn't seem to have the same impact as borrowing policies from the current motely crew in office. Let's focus on what's important.
Why does everyone blame the Clinton campaign for EVERYTHING? Obama copied Patrick's speech, people on youtube realized it and sent around a video and it made news.
If Obama ever became President, the headlines for all four years would just be "NOT HIS FAULT". He's human, he screwed up, and this isn't the first time. Deal with it.
Regardless of who said what – I don't understand how the American people can even begin to imagine Hillary as President – are we not tired of the Bush's and Clinton's running our country????? It is time for a change – meaning – no more Bush's – no more Clinton's. This is America – unless.....we want to go Hillary for the next 8 – maybe Jeb the next 8 – then the next generation of Clinton's and Bush's...hmmmm – anybody else seeing a pattern here> Vote for Obama or McCain.
I am MORE concerned about his pledge to his "church". In the 10 point pledge from his churches website) #4 is: a NON-NEGOTIABLE commitment to Africa. Is he going to have some conflict when governing over the Unuted States? This church has a history of questionable moments!!
Obama is wrong for our country!!!
It is time for African-American, OBAMA-08 ! God bless America !!
I'm shocked by the audacity and brazeness of the arrogance of Obama's campaign of claiming ownership of the phrases "Yes we can" and "We're fired up, ready to go".
I first heard those phrases playing high school varsity basketball in a developing country in the 1960's before I legally immigrated here in 1981.
That's probably an indication of the changes their campaign is talking about. Good bye 21st century hello 1960's. I have very fond memories of the 60s but not probably the move for America.
Matt A, , Florida
This has got to be the most childish blog on the net.
GROW UP
I am sure that Barack loved his mother and am very sorry he lost her to cancer. It is a terrible way to die. I love mine as much and she is a survivor.
Although he approves of the TV messages where she is mentioned, she should be allowed to rest in peace, not the object of political gain.
Hillary: It took one Clinton to clean up after a Bush, it will take another Clinton to clean up after this Bush
What Obama should have said: "Cleaning up is fine Hillary, but I want to RENOVATE the place. Rennovation through Innovation"
Sen. Obama. You didn't say that but you have my permission to use it in your speeches pro bono!
Plagiarism isn't borrowing language... it's stealing written research and words. The spoken word is no one's property.
Other than that, I don't really care much. McCain has borrowed language from Obama's campaign, too... whatever!
Billary AND THEIR SUPPORTERS.......GET THIS STRAIGHT......
hillary will never...repeat...never be elected president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If she gets the nomination, Democrats lose no questions asked.
Go negative and criticise all you want...OBAMA is the better candidate.
Even if it is time for a woman president, it CAN NVER be hillary because of her hidden scandals and by the way why can't she release her Tax Returns????
Are we so stupid to wait till she gets the nomination before she releases the Tax Returns? What is she hiding???????
Yes, you can, and yes we can .... are BOB THE BUILDER (a cartoon) logo.
Yes, Obama has used it, and telling that it is a signature of Obama's campaign, it does not correspond to reality. I am glad that lack of originality of Obama becomes clear. He borrows lines from many historical figures, and indeed he does not have much of his own to show!
This is stupid. If you look at the speech, he did NOT steal or borrow an entire speech from anybody. With respect to ONE part of his speech, the part responding to Hillary's attacks on his oratory, he borrowed the "just words" concept. However, the "just words" concept really is a repeating of famous lines. Neither Patrick nor Obama added much. "Just words, insert MLK, Just words, insert RFK, Just words, insert Reagan." There's nothing to steal really.
Now, if you show me that Obama or Hillary stole a substantive idea. Stole a healthplan, an economic plan, or something like that, then I'd care.
Hillary is a cry baby. Obama says "Yes, we can." She says, "Yes, we will." Neither one originated either concept. Come on people.
Hillary Clinton: "If you want somebody that was against the war vote or says it was a mistake, then you should go vote for somebody else"
Without a shadow of doubt, both are 'polarizing' figures in the current political scenario. Sometimes I wonder whether they are even from the same party. I have started to dislike both of them. My independent vote will either go for a republican... or none... if these guys don't grow up.
Kat,
How is it Obama sounds like a small child in defending himself but its ok for Hillary to sound like a small child by bringing it up in the first place. How is having that double standard ok. Anytime Obama defends himself from the DESPERATE tactics of the Clinton campaign he's wining. Give me a break! You're just as sorry as the Clintons.
I believe that it is a great that Obama has a good response team because the Clintons are getting desperate. At first the got the man who is responsible for tainting a whole black generation to speak on their behalf. As a matter of fact, that's what turned me off from the Clintons, I'm black and I actually hate BET, and now this thing about his speeches. It is obvious that th Clintons are attacking his strength as a last stand to get the nomination.
Give up Clintons. It's OVA.
Gee, last week she was whining look at his record, the media like him better so they are being nicer to him. This week it's you are stealing my words and my ideas and people are still being mean to me. I wish Obama would not have to sink to the Clinton's level but as many of us know they will do and say anything to win so he has no choice but to respond. Well as usual the Democrats will blow what should be a blow out election against Mcain because the leaders of the party are too disorganized to come up with a cohesive message and plan to persuade moderates and independents to vote Democrat. So by the time the convention rolls around we will look stupid and incompetent–again!
Seems like neither of these candidates is smarter than a fifth grader.
This is really sad and disgusting.
Obama is no different from any other politician and I don't know why people are treating him like he's the immaculate conception.
Hillary needs to show her warmth and ability and stop playing into Obama's words. We all know it's easy to say the words, it is another thing to do the deeds. The only deeds I see right now are finger pointing and empty promises. Obama is as divisive as people accuse Hillary of being and it's time to get real folks or we get McCain who is just more George W. Bush. Clinton/Obama is the dems only hope of winning.
Does this surprise anyone? Democrats–Biden, Clinton, Obama–have to borrow rhetoric to bolster their dearth of ideas.
What about Hillary and McCain stealing Obama's lines?
No problem with that, right?
Hypocrites.
Italy for Obama.
If you look at Hillary over the last couple of months since Iowa, you will see more and more that she has patterned herself like Obama to confuse and hide the truth of her campaign from the american people. Watch her make backroom deals to become the nominee and corupt the entire democratic process.
go hillary. you re' a solution person. Gods bless you and American.
Okay this is getting way too petty.....stick to the issues PEOPLE.....
he said, she said. isn't there more important things to argue about!
You name one politician who hasn't used the words of past speeches in their own speech. Stop crying about stupid isht.
YES WE WILL!!!!!! YES WE DID!!!!! hey that's one Obama can't say when it comes to solid-useful change and experience!
Would both the Clinton camp and the Obama camp SHUT UP!! I support Obama and consider myself a liberal democrat but these catty fights are pissing me off. Do we want to unite the party? Then shut up, stick to why YOU should be President, not why your opponent shouldn't be. jeez... do we really want the country to go to McCain over petty things like this??
Why does anyone act like Obama's being childish here? Clinton's making a ridiculous attack. He's responding maturely. There's nothing wrong with "these two," just her.
I still have no idea how informed people can support the Clintons. From their hypocracy to their flagrant disregard to the first ammendment (sanction against the NBC Reporter for his comment against Chelsey) they are complete con-artists who rely on mis-information and gullibility to glorify themselves.
Hillary has not done one positive thing during her short tenure as senator, let alone the previous 20some years that she boasts experience for. Nor has she actually come up with a plan to fix anything.
She really is ready to lead us in the wrong direction from day one.
I am officially tired of Obama now. I liked him when he was the keynote speaker at the Democratic convention, but he's really gotten a big head and high opinion of himself lately.
I know my state will probably vote for him because they think he's a "native son"– which is a crock. Maybe he was "born" here, but he only lived here part time a couple of different times (and his Mom collected welfare & food stamps while he went to a pricey private school). He lived in Indonesia too when he was a small kid– does that make him Indonesian?
But I'm growing weary of Obama's fake persona, and I will vote for Hillary because I don't think I can handle 4 years of another talking head.
I think the media coverage is out of hand. Why dont you stick to the issues instead. It's terrible that we have to even be bothered with these headlines – "TMI"
Caesar Chavez: "Si se puede!" (yes we can!)
obama's entire campaign has been borrowed from hundreds of different people, none to whom he has given any credit whatsoever. he talks a good game, Hillary Clinton plays a good game
BLUE COLLAR AMERICA FOR HILLARY!!!!
Plagiarizm?
Barack Hussein Obama and his campaign adviser have from the beginning of his run for the Democratic leadership, have plagiarized Senator Hillary R Clinton's ideas on healthy care, economy, ending the war in Iraq.
She has been talking about these issues for years because she new she was going to run for the Presidency and we all new that even though she was reticient to speak about these plans to early .
Obama's supporters, not only have copied and waterdown her substantial solutions, they have also paid big money to get her past campaign advisers, to try to find out "What makes Hillary Run" (smile)
Now watch how they study and plagiarize her 13 page Blue Economic plan and how she plans to turn the economy around.
Listen carefully America to the "yes, we can" Obama slogans, in essence it will state:
"Yes, we can, adopt and carry out all of the plans in Hillary R Clinton's economy plan.
There new slogan should read; "Yes, we can Plagiarize. Yes, we can indeed"!
Clinton just used Obama's words for her health care plan. "I will make sure you have the health care the same as that of me as a senator. "
I see no problem for copying, as long as you know what is right and what is wrong. Don't you think it is to the interest of our country if they could copy each other's shining part on important issues.
The problem is that can she copy his honest, and inspirational character?
***Senator Obama talks about change. What change has he delivered in his short political career? Words mean nothing without concrete action. He uses others' speeches and plans. I would expect nothing less from someone with little experience banking on the American people to be inspired by his speeches and "hope" he can really deliver. We have had enough of that for the last 8 years!***
ABG, if you read anything about him, you would KNOW what change he has enacted. As a community organizer, he was able to bring the SEEMINGLY basic needs of the people to Altgeld projects. This was a place in utter disrepair with some of the most hopeless, unmotivated residents around. He turned it around for these people, ask THEM what change he has enacted. From the city to the state to the national level, he HAS in fact, enacted change... I'm tired of the people taking what is SPOON FED to them as truth without FACT CHECKING!!! So what, he took some words WITH PERMISSION? How many people quote these EXACT famous lines ALL THE TIME? They are all inspirational and I personally see his point. AND, if this is the only part of the speech everyone is up in arms about and Governer Patrick didn't care, what does it matter? Besides, people WRITE these speeches for BOTH candidates, so if the writer worked on BOTH campaigns, can he really plagarize his OWN words??? Just a thought...
OBAMA in '08!!!
Obama copies ideas as well as speeches. In May 2007, Hillary introduced a comprehensive Gulf Coast Recovery Agenda. Three months later (in August) Obama released a VERY similar proposal. On 2/708, he 'introduced' the same plan he released in August.
Need another example? In his economic address in Wisconsin 2/13/08 Obama proposed an "infrastructure bank" to finance infrastructure projects. Back in August 2007, Hillary had already co-sponsored the National Infrastructure Bank Act establishing a federally backed independent bank to evaluate and finance large infrastructure projects.
This guy has no substance. NO HE CAN'T.
We need a LEADER, not a talker who steals ideas. Hillary gets my vote.
"There is nothing new under the sun."
Don't we have bigger, more important issues to discuss?
Shame on us all for even taking the time...
February 18th, 2008 12:48 pm ET
All I can say is Hillary in 08. Barack is a cry baby and a whiner. He will lose ultimately. Once his "people" forget how to vote.
Go Hillary in 08
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Once his "people" forget how to vote? So many responses to such ignorance. I am glad that you're going for Hilary. With comments such as that, you seem to fit the "profile" for a Hilary supporter, and I'm sure that Senator Obama would not want your support.
I am so tired of Hillary talking about the fact that Obama only "makes speeches." Well the few speeches I have had time to listen to in their entirety seem to point out some very specific issues he would address in his presidency. However, he does not delineate exactly how he would pay for the various proposals; I would like to know that.
Why has no reporter asked Hillary the Million Dollar question: ARE YOU GOING TO ASK BILL CLINTON TO RUN AS YOUR VICE PRESIDENT????
I have never heard it asked, nor have I heard it discussed except on my local CBS station where they confirmed there is nothing to preclude her from doing so. I would think this would be a hot issue for discussion everywehre. Thanks. Moey
I don't know why Clinton would be complaining, didn't she say his words were empty????
Dont a be fake God, be a truthful human first. Can any Obama supporter negate any points below by putting their hand on their heart?
Obama lied about:
a) lobbyist (state over federal, we value state corruption more than federal corruption now in America?)
b) Exelon bribe (apart from Exelon being one of the highest contributor to Obama, they also paid David Axelrod a "consulting" fee..also called bribery fee in other countries)
c) Energy bill with Dick Cheney (feeding his cousins so called ties with pork for lobbyist in that bill..Hillary voted against it because of Dick Cheney lobbyist)
d) Triangulating (when he himself was triangulating on national TV on drivers license)
e) His Rezko relationship (5 hrs work, who believes?)
f) His past beliefs (which allowed the rumors to float)
g) Social Security (he changed his position 3 times in 2007).
If anyone thinks a charismatic liar can be a transcending figure, then I will call him a cult member. Liar's charisma is fool's paradise. Bill Clinton was a charismatic figure too and yes he lied too. Look he couldn't become transcending. Only difference, Obama started with lies, Bill ended with lies. So Obama can never achieve what Bill achieved.
Obama is just another Bill Clinton-like, just 16 years later. If anyone is saying something different, he/she is lying or being a big hypocrite.
My only problem with Obama is that he is a liar like any other politician.
Obama is not a truthful human being. I hope he was.
Cry baby Obama, the damage is done, stop trying to spin your way out of this one.
This is a small taste of what the republicans would do to him. HRC has been vetted, the RNC has spent over $100 Million and she's still here.
I would like a answer from all the candiates on their view of a flat tax and getting rid of the IRS.
It takes the press. I Know! all hogwash
So let me see this, copying a speech word by word now is equivalent to using a common phrase, “we are fired up”? So Obama has trade marked “we are fired up”? Does that mean I cannot say it? Is this pathetic or what. I knew he was an empty suit, but now it turns out his words are not even his to begin with!! This is sp pathetic!
If you think Obama is good enogh as the best candidate, you should come out and be a candidate yourself. Am tired of false accusations he no plan, he is hot air, he did that he did this. stop for God sake.
I'm glad to see that the campaigns are now reaching for the lowest common denominator. Come on Clinton and Obama. You both should know better...
Is the CLINTON machine going nuts?!
They are finding faults in Obama's speech now. What about all that 'Experience' and 'Solutions' that Clinton offer's. Why cant they stick to policy difference's. Is this the kind of negativity that comes with EXPERIENCE and Is this the SOLUTION to win the seat to become the President.
Hey CNN...stop reporting the blatant Obama plagurism so softly. Move that story up front and stop spinning it with comments from the Obama camp. The real story is he lifted the whole "Yes we can" and more. Just report it.
actually joann, it was 'rival campaign that preferred not to be named' that broke the story. hmm, i wonder which campaign that could be.
Also, "just taking it like a man" is what got Kerry defeated in '04. When you're up against a callous and immoral attack machine (like the republicans/clintons) your only chance is to take on each attack that they perpetrate and respond quickly, honestly, and effectively. Thats what he did in response to the very first negative ad of the Democratic primary to date, and thats what he'll continue to do against her and then against McCain.
I was going to vote for Clinton, but I've finally had enough. Although I am disgusted that Obama retaliated, she started, and quite frankly I'm sick of it. Hopefully, Obama won't do something similar, or I guess I'll be voting for McCain.
So the great speaker Obama is actually the great plagiarizer of Deval Patrick's speeches? Folks need to seriously consider this and send him packing.
And Obama lifted his "Yes, We Can" fro Bob the Builder, my two little kids hero
As a life long Dem I am fed up. Both of these candidates or pandering, and "repositioning" themselves. Who knows what they really think.
McCain is the only true patriot who is willing to reach across for the good of the country and is strong enough to hold off the bad guys.
What happened to the mainstream Democrats?? Are all of us either far left or left out?? Yes, we want out of the war but we need to do it in a way that does not cause far larger problems – neither of the Dems are talking about how to control Iran after the pull out – I hate to say it but McCain is getting my vote this fall.
Renee: Speaking of signature phrases: "Yes we can" = "Sí se puede"–the motto of the United Farm Workers (thank you Cesar Chavez). UFW incidentally endorsed Sen. Clinton last month
That's right Renee, and you gotta know that it was completely calculated to use that phrase to try to sway Hispanic Clinton supporters. It's part of the political game, they all do it. But Mr. Obama always tries to paint himself as above these games. And he's just no different from any other politician...shrewd and calculating.
And I saw an early speech where he told where he got that "fired up" thing (that he then proceeded to repeat like an automaton!), but he hasn't continued with giving that credit out at his speeches, making it look like it's his brilliant idea! very slick
She needed SOMETHING to take the attention off Bill's bad behavior in Ohio yesterday: letting his temper flare and arguing with dissenters AGAIN!.
Really, how presidential is it to stop and argue with a guy on the rope line with cameras rolling?
Bill's series of macaca moments is what will bring down The Clintons' quest for a 3rd term.
Here's the dictionary definitiong of PLAGIARISM: "the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."
Deval Patrick has given Obama explicit permission to riff on his speeches. Therefore this is NOT plagiarism. Enough said.
Obama quoted a friend ~with~ that friend's explicit permission. What's more silly is that he quoted them quoting other people.
now it's come down to this???? certainly has a lot to do with the issues facing americans ths election year.
Why is so that suddenly is become so sensitive about speeches she talks about having solutions not delivering speeches.
Why it is so that such a close watch is maintained on Obamas oratory it shows thw weakness in a speaker and the listeners are not dumb to be told by a presidential candidate or their manager to the public that he repeated some lines uttered by some one else.
The electorate knows as they hear no body should tell them that what x and what y said.
you discuss and give solutions which is ur strength dont go critisizing if you cant deliver speeches .
Great leaders have been great speakers as the experience and history shows us.
English has 26 alphabets and 27th is not invented till today.
Experience when we talk about likewise should not be counted of others if they happen to be your very own . It does not add to your experience.
iN that case teenagers would be more experienced because they can claim to use their mothers and fathers experiences in that case ,I feel chelsea clinton would have been the most experieced candidate.
Stop critisizing the opponents it will only harm, talk substance and solutions if you have otherwise speak ,people are coming to listen to you and they will judge who is good for them and who speaks their language. They will not tolerate put on behaviour and attitude as candidates are here to collect votes. Electorate is much smarter than the candidates in exercising their franchise.
Solutions cant be judged whether they r right or wrong in the changing scenario of the world by the people who dont solve problems if they could then there would be more candidates in the race.
Tell them what you can do and not what your opponenet cant do Hillary
it will only harm your campaign which already is looking rickety.
If it's no big deal, then why didn't he give credit to Patrick when he was "borrowing" his so-called spiritual words?
Why hasn't he credited Malcolm X?
If it's no big deal, then why has he repeatedly borrowed Hillary's policy points and pretended they were his own?
Does the guy have one original thought of his own?
The whole idea that media should wait until this charleton is nominated to vet him is a joke! It's like hiring someone and then checking out his resume!
Okay now lets watch how media spins this in his favor. We all know they think he walks on water.
he has my vote tommorrow.
I've been waiting for Bob the Builder to file a plagiarism suit against the Obama campaign. Can we fix it? Yes We Can!!
I'm tellin' ya...go rent the movie "Election" with Reese Witherhspoon and tell me that isn't Hillary all over!
Sorry, Obama, but "fired up and ready to go" are already in the public domain.
Sounds like Obama is getting desperate, now that the media (Time magazine and newspapers) are questioning their over-arching support
of his "cultish" campaign.
STOP THE PRESSES!
"Yes We Can" was used by Cesar Chavez in the 70's (Si Se Puede)
It was also used by Bob The Builder (Can We Build It? Yes, We Can)
OBAMA CANNOT CLAIM TO OWN "YES, WE CAN" By claiming that he was plagiarized by Clinton for using "Yes, We Can", the Obama team is claiming ownership of that phrase, and therefore – THEY are committing plagiarism, because THEY did not write it!
The Just Words speech is obviously plagiarism. The Yes, We Can claim is bunk.
People, why do you always blame the Clintons when something negative is revealed about the Obama camp? I blame the media. They are always dogging the Clintons. Now they're trying to show that they engage in fair reporting by dogging Obama. I'm glad to see this. We need to learn as much as we possibly can about Mr. Obama. He may become the democratic nominee.
s.b. Really? I remember going to his campaign rally in Aiken,SC long before the primaries and he and the lady from Greenville who first introduced the phrase were using it (Fired up! Ready to go!) at the end of the event. This was in early October of 2007. Quit spreading lies. It's because of stuff like this that he keeps having to defend himself.
Nina wrote: I would dare say that all the people that that you call old and uneducated supporters of Hillary Clinton paid for the educations of the Obama supporters which has not been paid back yet. In fact Obama didn't pay his back until he started running for President..
That sounds like accurate information that you made up. I guess you have Obama and Michelle's s.s. #? I guess you ran a credit check? You are as desperate as the Clintons also.
Glad that American people wake up that Obama plargiazed other's word, that means he can't run for President. I believe Obama used other's words at Havard ! I am glad that American people wake up and know what's going on with Obama's words that's not his words!! Obama did not write his own speeches !!!!!!!! Stop voting for Obama because it's dangerous . President have a heavy job !! Vote for Hillary!
This article seems rather pointless, I shudder to think that so many Americans are swayed by speech rather then action. For the leaders of this country to be stealing each others words just to show each other up really shows us how much original thinking we have in office.
I have been Pointing this out for a long time, and I am glad that Hillary (as always) has the courage to "bring this to light". I just cannot believe that people think "plagiarism" is a small issue.It is not ALLOWED in Schools all across this country, Even Joe Biden, admits that he did this back in College, and had to Drop out in the 88 race due to Plagiarism.
Make no mistake, he does this all the time, as I been stating, he is not original. I hope that CNN along with All other Media begin investigitaing him on this, and time to bring this out.
It's funny how the Obama camp refers to youtube on Hillary.
1st, Hillary did not take the "yes we can or "si se puede" from Obama..LOL They do not even BELONG to him..how funny. The hispanics brought this about, he managed to incorporate (Plagiarism) into his Rallys. However, in Salinas, CA The Hispanics (i myself) Chanted the "Si se puede" After the Union Endorsed her.
If Obama is a youtube watcher, I wonder why he has not answered the charges of "Larry Sinclair"? To those who have yet to hear about "Obama's little secret" search youtube "Larry sinclair".
It is time that the Media Exposes him.
Obamanada totally plagerized Hillary Clinton's speech on the economy. He had no plan...except to get to the Whitehouse. And he is trying to "talk" his way into it! WAKE UP AMERICA! If this is all it takes, I think I will run!
Every good leader borrows from other good leaders...adding knowledge ton knowledge to formulate better strategies. As long as he's not committing perjury or claiming that they're his original ideas then what's the big deal?
Here we are again. Talking nonsense about nonsense. This is childish from the surrogates from both camps.
Hillary and Obama are two fine persons who will be good presidents. Not excellent but good enough. Hillary has made her share of mistakes and she is in tough spot being a woman and expected to be tough. Politics is a dirty world. You are seeing the worst of two fine individuals depending on who you support.
Take a pause for a second, be objective. Support a candidate because of what they stand for and ignore all this BS.
YOU WANT POLITICIANS TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. IGNORE THIS BS AND FIGHT THE MEDIA WHO FILL YOU WITH THIS.
THIS IS WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS: BS.
IT'S PRESIDENT'S DAY FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!
Barack Obama copied "Yes we can" from United Farm workers. We know all about Debate Obama Vs Speech Obama. with out his speech writer he is just an empty suit.
Maybe when Hillary is done parading around the country for her personal gain she can come back to NY and actual pretend to represent us in the Senate.
This would be funny if it were not so serious. Have the democrat candidates really gotten this desparate. Keep going guys, you're going to give this to the Republicans yet. I can't wait for the next headlines "Hillary (or Obama, pick one) drops out, endorses McCain." We need to amend the constitution. Instead of simply requiring people to be born in the US and be 35 years old, we need to change that to "be 35 years old and an adult."
To those who think that this discussion is childish: Plagiarism and co-opting ideas may be just words, but they are a reflection of something greater: character. When someone (Mr. O) puts himself out there as a non-gameplayer, but stoops to exactly the same thing that everyone else is doing, he's no longer a representative of change and should lose THAT co-opted slogan!
FOLKS DO NOT PIN THAT PATRICK ITEM ON HILLARYS CAMP..IT WAS THE MEDIA THAT BROUGHT THE STORY TO LIGHT...AND YOU OBAMA FOOLLS ARE RUNNING WITH IT...WHO IS THE IMATURE ONE IN THIS INSTANCE
CNN Moderator:
Thank you for providing balanced posts, both for Clinton and Obama. The Democratic Party is equally divided between these candidate, and I think posting equal remarks better reflects the public at large. For awhile there, it was 90% Obama supporters, which means they have the time to blog on the CNN.com website while everyone else is working, or the moderators at CNN.com are pro-Obama.
Many of these posts aren't articulate, but as long as they are balanced, it serves both parties.
Dirty Politics as usual by the Clinton campaign, that is why Americans see through this and will vote for Obama! Obama has his own mind and soul and for Hillary to do this the DAY before an election to try and attack Obama with more negativity is hillarious, but sad. Especially when she has been copying many of Obama's slogans and ideas! Phony and Fake Hillary back at work again! And the country see it! GO OBAMA!!! YES WE CAN!
Hillary can fix it? None of the above can fix it, and especially NOT HIllary.
This has gone beyond ridiculous. Clinton keeps talking that Obama is just speeches...so now she has to try and discredit those as well. I have never liked anyone who has to put someone else down to make themselves look better. She has not learned anything, and most importantly, she is not listening to the American public who keeps asking her to stop the negativity. She is the one acting like a child. Obabma just comes out in defense. He does not start the bullcrap, but he has every right to defend himself against it. Thats law 101. If you introduce something into evidence, prepare to be cross examined. Obama/Edwards '08, '12, and I wish '16. GET A LIFE HILLARY CAMP!!!!
starts with my working in south chicago for unitrd states steel this company had 34000 employes two years later they were down to 5500 so please ask obama what help he has given. My three children an wife lived on 99.00 a week for 16 weeks this feed pay rent get in my car an find another job ask them what help he gave us . A person can get ahead by liying for only utill you reporters start looking to this lie .
It comes down to a CREDIBILITY problem........the CLINTONS have none. They can't point there finger at anyone for any thing , because they have four pointing right back at them.
Do you really want either of these 2 pathetic candidates running our country? I could see it now... some country threatens the US and either one of them would cry and moan to the UN about hurt feelings. Go McCain
OBAMA HAS HAD AN ATTITUDE SINCE DAY ONE. DON'T BLAME HILLARY.
GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is time to reject this man who pretends to be going to make the right decision on Day One, but who is slowly but surely turning out to be doing so after plagiarizng the decision of his political friends who exchange words like sporting table tennis (ping pong) to the pathetic delight of Obama supporters. Is that the American idea of a President of the US? For our rest and peace of mind, Hillary is the safe and rational choice.
I believe great leaders excel in the art of communication. Hillary has the ability to speak confidently on her feet on a consistent basis. She is precise, confident and poised. She doesn’t need to try to be “someone else” or “borrow” another leader’s speech or style.
Speaking of “borrowing” Obama and his campaign has borrowed the slogan Si se Puede. This was the motto of the United Farm Workers. In 1972 Cesar Chavez’s 25th day fast in Phoenix, Arizona, he and UFW”s co-founder, Dolores Huerta come up with the slogan. The UFW union has endorsed Hillary as Ms. Huerta and Chavez’s brother also have and speak at events. On Saturday Ms. Huerta spoke at the Austin Hillary headquarters. Not once but TWICE. If anyone should be entitled to use the slogan to honor Chavez’s legacy it is the Clinton campaign! What's he done for the UFW union?
The Clinton camp is dragging this race just where they're comfortable: in the gutters. Clinton is a synonym with cheap political tricks. Senator Clinton, just bow out gracefully and go work on your failed 90's healthcare plan!
HAHAHAHA
Not only doesn't Obama's speeches include any policy, they don't include anything from Obama himself.
Yeah, this is change we can believe in.
Milli Vanilli for President.
I agree this is getting a bit petty, but I think Obama would be much more attractive as a candidate without his campaign manager (David Plouffe) always baiting the media or other presidential contenders (on both sides of the aisle). He is defeating party unity more than either candidate.
This is ridiculous. Hillary, I really could care less about what line Obama took from his supporter. It clearly helped him explain the situation. I am sick of this meaningless attacks and I think you should just stop right now. Desperation is no excuse for meaningless accusation. Go back to the 90's where you belong
Look at all the hate this Obama man and his Obamabots stirs up? Wake up America, this is just the beginning. If you vote for the cult of Obama you will ruin this country.
Gabi, you said Obama is a man of his word, did not campaign in Florida. Where have you been? Obama ran ads in Florida and for that he should be penalized. But did anybody criticize him for that? Nooooo. Oh, yah, they were national ads and couldn't be extracted for Florida. What a joke. At least Hillary went only after the polls closed and thanked the voters for their support. She kept her word. Obama thought he could sneek one in without CNN, MSNBC, FOX noticing it. God help us all if he becomes our next president. Oh wait, not to worry... McCain will stop him by eating him alive.
Why are these little spats making any headlines.
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The fact is the Hillary just has too much baggage; the name tag on this baggage is Bill.
The Republicans can just start with the impeachment and White Water.
I do not want another term with Hillary & Bill Clinton as a co-president.
As first lady, Hillary tried for health care in 1992 and failed.
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Obama can win in November; Hillary can not. This is all that should matter for democrats.
I am angry at the way everyone is talking, we are in a state of turmoil and reading the comments makes see more ofhow this world is divided and I can guarantee we as americans are being made fun of. I am upset with the fact that we are all upset and fearul of reliving the bush years through someone else. I am willing to take a risk on someone new and fresh because we need to go in another direction. Hilliary clinton has made alot of deals with the republicans in government and legislation if they help her get into office. we all need to pay attention to the truth and not focus on who is copying who, she has alot of pull due to bill being in office .so keep in mind this woman is desperate and she is making all kinds o promises under the sun to get into office. I am a independent so I am researching alot before I place my vote. I am willing to get out of my comfort zone and vote for someone new because we are definitely headed into a recession and need to know that someone is willing to think of the american people.
VOTE Mc Cain !!!
Dino IL February 18th, 2008 1:06 pm ET
This is pretty petty on both candidates part…I just wonder if too much damage has not already been done.
Clinton supporters, if Obama wins the nomination will you choose to vote for McCain? If not, how can you support someone that you villify so readily?
Obama supporters, what if Hillary comes back to win, whether thru the popular vote or due to superdelegates support? Will you find it possible to campaign as vigorously for her as you have for Obama?
If you can't answer yes to these questions, then I think Mccain is a shoe in and you can all blame yourselves for that.
Dino,
I am an Independent supporter of Obama. That is the key difference in the two candidates bases of support.
Obama has a large number of Independent and Republican support that Hillary simply does not and likely will not carry into a general election. Whereas, I think most of Hillary's base Democrats, are lese likely to cross party lines and vote for McCain over Obama.
I think that this is shown by the general election poll numbers.
Personally my vote goes to McCain should Clinton win the dem nomination by hook or by crook.
His is frankly juvenile. Grow up, people.
What's the big deal here? Don't most candidates get their speeches written for them by speech writers anyway? So technically everyone is pretty much borrowing from someone else all the time, if you want to get technical with it.
I think it's time to address the real issues of our country instead of finding petty, and in the big picture insignificant, things to argue about.
YOU BILLARY supporters are full of it!!
This women help authorized a failed WAR because it was popular to do so!!
This Women authorized a failed bankruptcy bill because it was popular to do so!!
But yet you support her. IT is not because of the issues!! The same go for all the Latinos voters!!
YOU ARE NOT VOTING BASED ON THE ISSUES, YOU ARE VOTING BASED ON RACE!!!
STAND STRONG FOR CHANGE (OBAMA)
OR
FALL HARD FOR THE SAME (Clinton's)!!!!
Facts: Mr. Obama used an entire speech without mentioning to the public it was indeed someone else's speech. That is pure and simple plagiarism. He should apologize and drop out of the race now. "I give good speeches".. Yes, but they are someone else's words.
Doesn't matter if he and Deval are friends or not and even if he gave Obama permission to use his speech, he should have been given the proper credit. If he did that in law school. He would have been kicked out.
As usual, the Clintons will say or do anything just to win.
Amazing. It is overwhelming how easily national attention can be diverted away from real issues. We Americans flock to these stories – we probably read more about scandal and campaign drama than we read about political positions. I shifted my support from Clinton to Obama right before the primary in my state – due to this exact type of manipulation. The real truth here sounds like exactly what Governor Patrick says and what the Obama campaign is trying to get out – Patrick and Obama are friends who exchange ideas on a regular basis. I wonder if Obama didn't do this almost knowing that the failing Clinton campaign would jump on this and run with it. I hope that Democrats can remain focused on the election and not fall for these Clinton stunts. The Clinton campaign is working hard for Obama these days. He might want to consider paying them for their hard work on promoting him. One more thought: It would be a travesty if the DNC fails to do the right thing this time! It is time for a new American politics .
I did not know that Obama had those words copyrighted?????
" yes, we can and fired up to go"
I use words :" yes, you can and we can do it..." for years with my child! So I am not allowed to use them now bc they are a property of Obama?
any information on this?
To say this is plagarism is STUPID. It is a DESPERATE ATTACK from the Billary Machine.
Shame... Shame... Shame on the Lying Billary Machine!!!!
Totally irrelevant. Many great men and women have plagiarized. Even Martin Luther King Jr. This is pettiness from both of them.
Oh give me a break!! Again Mrs. Bill Clinton.... who's borrowing what from whom???? How about that "thirty-five years of experieince" quote of yours? Thirty-five years ago you were in law school..... Is it possible some of those "thirty-five years of experience" were "borrowed" from Bill??? This is becoming very petty ....
"Fired up, ready to go" is a slogan that a little old lady gave to the Obama campaign way back early in the election cycle when he visited there shortly after he annouced he was a candidate. I believe it was in a very small community in one of the southern states. He has been using it ever since.
What's wrong with CNN – with so much bias in reporting against Hillary. I never saw the article front page that says "Obama copies Clinton". When Bill Clinton use the "fairy tale", why not just write the article that clearly states that he means "the Iraq vote" or that Obama is lucky in his view toward the war because he was not in the Senate.
All I am asking is for fair coverage. I really hope Hillary wins now. Without hype, she's still the best candidate, regardless whether you think she's mean or not.
Coby, is that addressed to me? I never said he sounds like a child. The Clintons reinvented the double-standard if you ask me.
A little off the subject but what I care about is yours and my money. I am retired and can not afford many of the things that I am going to be asked to subsidize.
The latest is that the deadline for "ear marks" (padding the budget) is within the next few days. Finally some one has brought up that Hillary has in the past "ear marked" the budget to the tune of 340 Million dollars. Why should I from NH pay for what the state of NY wants but does not necessarily need (museum for hippies)? Bararck asked for 91 million and John McCain asked for 0.
People this is the direction we should be going in. Who is going to fix Social Security for our grandchildren? Who is going to balance the budget? Who is going to introduce the line item veto so these "ear marks" can not go to favorite programs (they also get you votes)? Who is going to find the leader of our terrorists? Who is going to secure the border?
Instead of stupid party questions why do they not get down to the meat and substances?
Calling all ladies!!!! Vote for hope, inspiration. From
one lady to another! America will be dancing in the
streets when OBAMA wins.
OBAMA 2008
What happened to Americans looking for change? I thought we all wanted to energize the country and put a president in office who could best effect the positive change we were looking for!
Polls have shown that most democrats would be happy with either of the two candidates who remain, so why are we engaging in candidate bashing? I thought we were more interested in listening to what policies the candidates were interested in promoting and voting for the one whose ideas we agreed with?
If we were really interested in change, I believe we would be debating the differences in policies rather than engaging in divisive remarks about the candidate we opposed.
CLinton will never win because her campaign managers and spokesmen are so petty.
i think it's funny. When hillary comes out and accuses obama, the hillary supporters appear in droves to try to 'rub it in.' but when obama points out that hillary does the same thing, it's "oh grow up."
I think Obama's "true colors "are beginning to show. By the way, I believe McCain used the "fired up" phrase as well. Be ready for tea, Obama attack on him. This is why we need more debates. There wouldn't be all this time for such silliness. And for Obama to use as an excuse is he needs to spend time in the states giving people a chance to know him, it's just a cover for not wanting people to really know him by debating issues.
You know what's ridiculous? All the clinton supporters are acting like Obama doesn't care about people, when really he and hillary agree on so many things. Just because he's good at inspiring people doesn't mean hes phony. And really, who cares about this who's words battle. I do agree that it was foolish for the Obama supporters to stab back and say that Hillary did the same thing, since on her part, it already seemed fairly childish.
This back and forth is bad for the Democratic party
People, Obama will change. It is guaranteed.
He is going to change his name from Obama to OPRAH.
That what I mean BARACK OPRAH!!!!
Great change.
The Democrats need to stop bickering. Their advisors looked like idiots on the Sunday morning news shows re: this issue. Please lets just run clean races on the issues, not rhetoric. If they continue to bicker, name call and fight, all they do is push people toward McCain.
PLEASE STOP IT!
AND FOLKS,
THIS IS WHY US FLORIDIANS...
IF OUR VOTES ARE NOT COUNTED WILL BECOME...
DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN
Obama has got nothing to offer to American people – just his usual rhetoric – he is just a very smooth talker – that's all. I pray to God that he is NOT our next president.
To s. b. and others:
"Fired up? Ready to go?" has been Obama's signature many weeks before Iowa. Obama has told the story about this slogan many times, a story about an impressive lady in South Carolina. For those of you who make ignorant comments, please first educate yourself and then comment. Be a responsbile citizen!
What Obama is trying to do is to make your life better. You do not need to worry about the Clintons, who have millions of dollars from making "meaningless" speeches and writing "meaningless" words, if words really do not matter.
The negative flase attacks by the Clinton campaign is damaging the democratic party. Someone needs to stop the Clintons.
So If Hillary says Fired up, ready to go that is the SAME as coping some one's speech? I think not! Nice try NObama!!
This once Hillary supporter is over her! Obama is the change agent...Hillary is just more of the same!
Vote Obama...don't let the past fool you!
TO ALL LATINO's VOTERS WHO SUPPORT BILLARY:
You all are not voting based on the issues!! Which is pathetic!!
You are voting based on the fact that BILLARY visited your state!!
WHAT ABOUT THE WAR!! WH
WHAT ABOUT HER BAD JUDGEMENT!!
Do you remember how the Republicans excused everything Bush did?Remember how they still worshiped him even when nothing he did made sense to you?HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR YOU?
all of us are acting like kids this is why nothing gets done in america. if you are not going to vote for Obama don't vote. If you are not going to vote for clinton don't vote. If feel some of you are on obama and clinton camp writing in this is not cool. Look you guys are making them look and sound bad please stop now.
virginia
usvi
to put is another way,,it was not hillary that brought the patrick story to light it was the media..so please do not put it on hillaris door step..go after the edia
Another day gone by and still no resolution for the Michigan and Florida voters and delegates. Unbelievable! The Democrats will lose the general election unless this issue is resolved soon! I can't believe I'm saying this. C'mon DNC!
I really can't blame the Clinton's though, she has tried everything to be in the news. I do not think they want to be negative. They are broke, so they need some way to get in the news. Can we all just get along?........ouch I stole that line from Rodney King.
Don't these two make you real proud to be a Democrat ?
FOR HONEST
WAIT TILL THE DIRT ON OBAMA COMES OUT. IT WILL BE TOO LATE. YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE EITHER SO NAIVE OR YOU YOU ARE TOO STUBORN TO QUESTION HIS 'LAND OF PROMISES' SPEECH. WAKE UP!
WHY DO HIS FOLLOWERS ACCEPT ANYTHING HE THROWS AT THEM/
Isn't it interesting - the Hillary folks compare her "solutions" to Barack's "record". They should compare her record to his record. Why not investigate the legislative record for yurselves – it's all documented in the Library of Congress.
Hillary's "record" is really Bill's record (he's not running for president, or is he?) - She couldn't get support for her health care "solutions". Where are the results of her legislative experience – her results, not Bills. Do you hear Michelle claiming credit for Barack's legislative record, never has – never will (too much integrity for that).
Gee. Hillary must really know she's going to lose cause her whinning is really going up. Pretty soon she'll start the tears again to see if that will help her. The clintons need to go out to pasteur and let america forge ahead with a new fresh inspirational leader like Obama.
This is ridiculous. Barack Obama doesn't own a phrase like "Yes we can" and "Fired Up" Those are very common words that would be used in any campaign. There is a big difference between using similar words and using large portions of someone else's speech. When are Democrats going to realize this guy is nothing but hot air?! Hillary Clinton may not have the bright lights or great speeches but she has the intelligence, experience and understanding of the problems we face. Come on people, the ignorance is baffling! Let’s look at the numbers of votes up till now.... Clinton – 9,759,472 Obama – 8,260,332. That's a difference of 1,499,140 votes. The American people are speaking it's just that the media doesn't want them to be heard because they are caught up in the bright lights and hot air of the Obama Campaign!
I dont particular like either one of the democrate candidates. Having Hiliary as president would be an end to the end. And Obama has no experience. He Keeps talking about changes but doesnt seem to mention any of them. Just, change, change , change. What change. He needs a lot more experience. And hiliary needs to go back to being a senator, even thought she hasnt really been doing that job well. Im democrate but I think Ill need to vote for mc cann, since he does care about the doldiers, because he use to be one. I really dont understand how people can vote for someone just because hes nice.
I'll be surprised if CNN posts this comment. But here it goes any way.
The media is the one getting silly and petty. This is not an issue for either the Hillary or Obama campaign. It's just an attempt by the media to stir controversy between the candidates, just as Wolf Blitzer tried to stir controversy between them at the California debate when he asked Obama if Hillary was naive for voting for the Iraq war.
Such pettiness. Is this how HIllary plans on leading our country on DAY ONE? Is this the type of experience we want in a president? Hillary's campaign is clearly desperate.
The ship is sinking.
OBAMA 2008
Hillary, have some pride! It's obvious you copy Obama's speech.
I know well that Barak Obama will be the next US president, It's just an intuition but may come true! I do wish him all the best to be the best president of United states of America and he will keep the presidentship for two terms too. Because the Americans need a better future to serve their Nation and keep up with freedom and moral Values. I am very proud of Hilary Clinton and wish her all the best as a Governor like Schwazeneger in California and make the Americans great. I do wish them both more safety in compaining with great public. May God bless the American fellow men and women with a great President who is Young and carismatic to be with the families and Statesmen. I am not an American but I am keeping up with the American dream and keep a great feeling for social freedom and the power of ideas, which we could express in USA.
John Chacko, Vienna, 17.02.2008
I agree with "Coby Austin".....its odd that when Obama responds to a claim, only then is he considered to be whining.
May people are saying that its over for Hilary–it isn't. Obama has not sealed the victory, but he is getting closer, and his momentum is getting stronger with every stop he makes.
Hilary needs to realize that she is losing supporters b/c of the way she is allowing her PR team to go 'tit for tat' with the Obama PR team.
Hilary's strength, at least at the onset, was experience and policy. She was "read to get to work from day one" and had extensive policy knowledge. She has gotten away from that, and it may very well cost her the election.
With regards to Obama, remember that if people get so desperate, as many Americans seem to be, then words alone can be enough to inspire the imagination of the electorate.
Very simple. Democrats do not like support Republicans, and Hilary has alienated many of her base by resulting to "school yard" politics.
THere goes Howard Wulfson grasping at straws again-Get a REAL
JOB Howie !!!
This is ridiculous of Obama saying that Hillary using the phrase "Yes we can" is plagiarism. Did he register that phrase as a trademark or something? No way. Here, I really think that the Clinton camp has more of a right to call Obama on plagiarism than Obama has a right to call Clinton on it.
These attacks between Obama and Clinton are really quite insane. I can't help but say "grow up Babies!"
Perhaps we should find someone more grown up than these two–maybe John McCain. Remember, we CAN stop this power-hungry woman and empty-talking man.
YES WE CAN! (But maybe Obama is going to accuse me of stealing his quotes now)
THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE...
Rumor has it that Obama didn't properly footnote and quote-credit his kindergarten essay too.
He should drop out of the race.
It's funny to read all the comments. If Obama doesn't fight back, then he is not strong enough to be the next president, if he does, then he's not man enough to take it.
This talk of "borrowed rhetoric" just shows the desperation of the Hillary campaign in an effort to distract Obama. Instead of sticking to issues, she has to get nasty and personal.
I am glad that Obama struck back. This is not about acting like children, this is about what is right.
Why are we focusing on this childish game being created by the Clinton campaign?
I wish CNN would cover the comments made by a Clinton head in Michigan that said superdelegates are more important than red state delegates and that red state delegates don't matter. 100% offensive, and as a red-state democrat i'm glad i had enough sense to vote Obama on super tuesday.
like someone said on politico.com "READY TO SURRENDER RED STATES ON DAY 1"
"Don't tell me words don't matter! 'I have a dream.' Just words. 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.' Just words. 'We have nothing to fear but fear itself.' Just words, just speeches!"
This is the actual quote from Obama. Plagarisim? The last time I looked these words belonged to all of us.
Hillary needs to stop playing this tedious game of twisting words out of context. It's shallow and dishonorable. However, this is a woman who, when asked why she doesn't also pull her name from the Michigan primaries, said that it won't matter. I suppose this is the respect she will continue to show for words if she's in the Whitehouse. Words don't matter because I guess words aren't your word.
As someone on the Clinton campaign famously said, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the–if he–if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not–that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....
People, open your eyes to at least four years distortion and unkept words if the Clintons make it back into power.
CNN Pleas print this.
this is just a pattern barak obama has been stealing policy ideas from hillary clinton from the beginning, slightly changing then and portraying them as his own. Examples: her economic plan – green collar jobs, national infrastructure bank, rescinding tax breaks for companies that outsource jobs overseas (see whoopi goldberg on the view – you tube), her plan for the gulf states – and yes I have read both websites, his is full of vague promises, hers are clear plans. Obama doesn't have a clue, he wants to fund education by pulling put of iraq – iraq funding is supplemental funding : this means it is additional money that will not be available if there are no troops in iraq, congress will not authorize a supplemental bill for education. Also obama wanted to change no child left behind now he wants to get rid of it – another of hrc ideas
We know it is you making all these lame comment on this site. Why is CNN pro-Obama? Stop the crying and the drama. This is your best aurgement? Way to vote for a canidate's junk.
Obama 08
P.S As long as you meanin heart what you say who cares who wrote it.
Well at least Obama didn't quote any words from her, but I can testify that I have heard Hillary and her fans using Yes We Can on several occasion. You know what, it okay when you ranout of ideas , words and borrow from the best. Hillary there is a saying if you can't beat them you join them, so it is okay you borrow ideas and words from our next president obama. You won't be charged, becuase you used it for a good course.
Yes We Can.
I will be mad if I hear Obama using Hillary ideas of taken money from lobbyiest and specail interest. Hillary also copy Obama economic plans. You know what guys it is good hse copied Obama, because it shows Obama is more knowledgeable. Hillary keep copying there more words and ideas from our next President Obama
HILLARY
TAKE YOUR SPOCE AND ALL HIS TOYS AND GO HOME AND CLEAN HOUSE
WE DON'T WANT THE SAME OLD (SAME OLD)
I think all of Obama's "catch praises" are stolen from someone else. I mean come on, what has this man done?
Plaglarism is all he is, MLKs' "the urgency of now". "I have a dream." Now he is trying to steal Hillarys' plans as his own. Why must he compare himself to others all the time. He is no JFK! He is for change yet has the elders of the party leading him around by the nose and elbow. The status quo in Washington are the Senators that are there now. He is not a uniter, he is a greenhorn with lofty ideas that are nice have but the reality is the status quo will remain intact.
Another example of Sen. Clinton's misguided sense of entitlement, which compares to her demand for weekly debates.
This is all stupid, and even childish on the Obama side...Hillary started her campaign talking about change. Obama stole this issue from her.
The rally cries are a lot differant from basing you entire retoric on other peoples words. So what if Hillary used fired up, or yes we will? She atleast talks about the issues.
All canidates borrow slogans. Clinton has always stayed on track with her message and her policy issues. Those that say otherwise are just looking for something to attack.
The big picture here is that Obama's entire campaign is based on borrowed retoric. Hillary's is not. To try and compare is desperate. The Obama campaign has proven over and over that they are the slickest attack artist ever to grace the american election cycle. Obama is not new, he is not fresh, he is not prepared to do his job in the senate, much less be the leader of the free-world.
Clinton is not desperate, just fed up with the one-sided treatment in this election. Please, go back to the beginning and tell me how Clinton has changed her policy issues. I dare you. She may have added issues along the ride, but she has always been staedy in her convictions.
Its easy for us all to hide behind a keyboard and spread lies, but this is too important to continue.
The Obama people should be asking their own canidate what he stands for other than retoric. At a confrance this weekend, no one I ran across could tell me any thing aboout Obama's record or his stand on the issues. Clinton supporters had detailed reasons why they support her. Thats says a lot.
Hey Joann, do you really think that Clinton said this so no one would see this in the media? That is absurd. Furthermore, Dana said he has no policy or plans, maybe you need to read up more about Obama and his record. Obama is not Clinton where he will say anything to get a vote or say what he thinks we want to here. Have you seen over the past year that his healthcare reform policy has been approved by many of the top experts which also say that it is better than Clintons'? . For all of the people who say Obama needs to stop acting like a little child, you think it is best for someone not to respond to attack after attack after attack? Hillary is getting desperate and she is the one who needs to stick to policies and if she did Obama would not have to defend himself every minute. We are tired of dirty politics and that is why Obama will be the next President of the United States!
Yeah, this is pretty disgusting. Honestly? These two need to seriously tone it down. Has it really come to this?
On that note, Hillary's been going negative for the entire race. This doesn't surprise me at all. She came out with 3 separate negative ads for Wisconsin alone talking about how Obama wouldn't debate there... even though he agreed to two more and they've already had 18!
Also, if you don't know Obama's specifics, stop whining and go to his website, rewatch the 18 debates, watch him on meet the press, read his two books....... it's ludicrous. If you don't know his specifics, stop complaining and whining and being LAZY and go pick up some info.
If Hillary needs to cry to go up in the polls then expect a lot of crying in the white house. Her nomination will get the reps surrounded around McCain against hillary, and if she does manage to pull off a win in november then there's no way she's getting anything done, since noone takes her seriously without Bill and the reps will stop her from getting much done.
Obama, however, likes to actually work with people. He'll win with a broad base of support.
Yeah, experience is all well and good. But you're not running to be sole commander of everything USA here, you're running to be a mediator between all three branches. The president has checks and balances for a reason. Obama will achieve much more as president than Hillary will.
This being said, if Hillary is nominated, I'm voting third party in november. If Obama is elected, Hillary's base of traditional democrats will vote democrat, as they always do, and all will be right with the world.
Obama is starting to sound like a little boy in kindergarten who is crying because Hillary took his milk. There is no copyright on "catch" phrases. He plagiarized an entire speech, but he turns on Hillary for using his catch phrases. How juvenile. This man is not Presidential material.
The Obama campaign has issued a statement from Gov. Patrick: “Sen. Obama and I are long-time friends and allies. We often share ideas about politics, policy and language. The argument in question, on the value of words in the public square, is one about which he and I have spoken frequently before. Given the recent attacks from Sen. Clinton, I applaud him responding in just the way he did.”
“It is characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things.”
So much for Hillary's "expereince and wisdom" argument.
And no, I'm not citing the author. Look it up.
THERE WE GO AGAIN WITH A NEGATIVE CAMPAIGN FROM HILLARY SIDE. SHE KNOWS HOW BAD SHE IS DOING, BESIDES BEIND DESPERATE FOR POWER......WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS?
EVEN IF MRS CLINTON WOULD WIN (IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN)
AT THIS POINT I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE WITH SUCH
BAD ATTITUDE. I GUESS I CAN SEE WHY THE SCANDALS HAPPEN IN THE PAST IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN THE HUSBAND WAS THE PRESIDENT.........YOU BETTER CHANGE BECAUSE WE ALL WILL RUN AWAY.
Hillary is a copy cat from the begginging of this campaign!
She said bad things about "speeches" then she copies it. How interesting.
The reason Hillary always wins in debates is because she is a master at public speaking. Trust me she doesn't need to borrow anything Obama is saying..this article just made me laugh. Is this cnn or the onion?
Stupid to give this so much press..I was a Obama supporter but the more I listen to his economic platform I'm beginning to think he's a socialist. He is much too far to the left, I believe. He gives great speeches and his vision of hope in wnderful but the more I read and listen to him I worry about his economic policies..
You people have got to be kidding me. By you people, I mean the rabid Obama and Clinton supporters who are going to ensure that the Republicans remain in power for another four years. Do you even hear yourselves. "Obama did it first!" "Hillary is a whiner!" You guys will be the very reason John Mcain will steal this election out from under us. There is more politcal in-fighting going on within our own party than against the Republicans. I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but I will cast my vote for her come November should she win the nomination because my gut tells me that if she should win this, she's a smart enough woman to know it was by the slimmest of margins and that she may not get a 2nd chance. She will do everything she can to hold onto that power. That means listening to the the people that help put her there. With that being said, I would like to see Obama as President because of the same reasons it's my personal opinion he gives us the best chance at the White House but it doesn't mean I'm going to support the Republicans by voting for them or abstaining just because my candidate didn't get the nod. Grow up people!
Who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This sounds like a simple case of borrowing simalar ideas about a specific argument both men where being accused of. Maybe if they where not friends it would be different. Hillary Clinton is such a frign snake! SHE WILL SAY OR DO ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED!!
Obama is not hope, he is just another politician and he will lie just like every other polician. Why isn't media going after Obama and his family like Clintons. Is it because he is black? One thing is clear, I still don't know his plan as such how can you have hope when you have no idea what he plans to do?
OBAMA TOOK AN ENTIRE SPEACH FROM DAVOL PATRICK, MAYBE THIS IS WHY HE ENDORSED HIM QUICKLY. ABC HAS SOMETHING UP THAT OBAMA AND DAVOL PATRICK SPEACHES ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST YEAR SOUND VERY MUCH ALIKE. WOW OBAMA YOU ARE A PHONY
This is a lose-lose proposition and exactly the kind of Democratic back-bitting the Republicans are wishing for. Obama and Clinton have got to stay on the issues.
well I think that using "fired up" and ready to go" is a little more understandable than spitting out the exact pace and language from a speech. Obama doesn't have a rights to the phrase "ready to go" I mean come on...he just looks stupid.
Unfortanately Obama's camp must respond to this. Remember what happend to Kerry when his camp did not respond, he got swift voted...
Obama 08
Desperate in Wisconsin.
First they say words don't matter then complain about words.
Oops, I guess words do matter.
The Clintons keep getting it wrong. Just like in South Carolina.
The wheels are coming off the Clinton wagon.
It's ridiculous that all you Clinton supporters act like I'm in some sort of trance. Evidently you haven't seen that Republicans are gearing up and have all sorts of attacks ready for Hillary. There's way too many ways that they can attack Hillary. How can you attack a man thats new, fresh, and inspiring? It's sick that this campaign run by Hillary and Bill has now become the campaign of attacking those that don't agree with us. Did you see Bill yelling at that Obama supporter? Their a democrat for crying out loud. I hope this all comes back to bite you, because this is the least friendly campaign among members of the same party I have ever seen, and its being run by lame Hillary attacks.
Obama 08, theirs no such thing as an Obamazombie, this man is a change I BELIEVE IN
Dear citizens of the world and Americans in particular ,
thank you very much for making clear choices between good and bad , between progressiveness and static nature of some people's thinking ,
Can the Americans take the leadership and move beyond colour or creed and vote for an energetic , brilliant / intelligent and well focussed Senator Obama? let age , colour and experience in Washington not be yardstick for the next America's president.every one sees that the next American got be A democrat and a strong democrat who will over shadow Mcain!!
Go Oboma , we support you !!!!!!!!!!!! yes you can
Clintons are the master of deception. They would do anything to win.
OBAMA 2008!
Its kinda pathetic that Gov. Patrick says its "OK, we borrow ideas from each other all the time". And most of these posts on her seem to be reveling that "Yaaay!!!, We finally got Obama on something!!!"
Most of you are pathetic in that you can't find a substantive issue to debunk Obama on so you come on hear to denigrate him as a "child".
You might as well call him a "boy" and be the true racists you are inside. That 'man-child' has just whipped Billary in 8 straight contests, it'll be 10 tomorrow. He has manhandled her in terms of campaigning in every possible way. And he whips McCain in every poll. Not bad for the "whiny child" you all call him.
OH, and in case you all forgot, Duval Patrick was a "black candidate" too, busters.
For the Junior Senator is much easier to criticize Senator Clinton because he has only two years of experience in the Senate which is not a long voting record where Senator Clinton has been in public life 30 or so. I don`t understand how some people make these comparisons and based on what criterias beteween the two.
The Clintons are so pathetic. This morning MSNBC showed Bill sticking his finger in some guys face and reading him the riot act because he was an Obama supporter. Clinton looked like a fool. I thought Hillary had him under control. Gheez can you imagine what he'll be like back in the White House. Good Grief
stevenjstevens
I don't really know what to say, except that you are 100% absolutely unquestionably wrong.
This story was broken when, and I quote:
"Howard Wolfson, the Clinton campaign's communications director, today accused Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) of committing “plagiarism” in a speech in Milwaukee on Saturday night.
Wolfson made the explosive charge in an interview with Politico after suggesting as much in a conference call with reporters.
On the call, Wolfson said: “Sen. Obama is running on the strength of his rhetoric and the strength of his promises and, as we have seen in the last couple of days, he’s breaking his promises and his rhetoric isn’t his own.”
"When an author plagiarizes from another author there is damage done to two different parties. One is to the person he plagiarized from. The other is to the reader," said Wolfson."
This is another one of the Clinton campaign's dirty tricks. We don't want you in office anymore Billary.
The ship is sinking....
finally someone has let the hot air out of obama,there is now enough
hot air to warm up Siberia.
This is what Obama calls: CHANGE?
Maybe Obama should be stealing the words of Mayor Doug Wilder from SC: "If Obama doesn't get nominated there are going to be riots!"
Yes, CHANGE!
Isn't it WONDERFUL?
The last time I checked, I have been using "fired up" since I was in cheerleading as a third grader. Hillary also hasn't been saying "Yes, we can" (which only reminds me and anyone with a child of Bob the Builder) she has been saying "Yes we will" a different play on words. Obama's lines were a direct lift from someone else's own speech.
I wish the democrats could just get it together. We don't need another republican in office, look at the state our country is in. It is time for change, and I believe either of the candidates can do it, they just need to stop with all of these petty things.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF USING ENTIRE SCRIPTED SPEACHES, THEN USING SOME WORDS FROM ANOTHER CANDIDATE. OBAMA YOU TOOK AN ENTIRE SPEACH FROM PATRICK AND ACCORDING TO ABC ALOT OF YOUR SPEACHES SOUND LIKE DAVOL PATRICK SPEACHES. YOU ARE A MAN WITHOUT IDEAS AND MAYBE THIS EXPLAINS WHY YOUR VOTING RECORD IN THE SENATE OVER 200 TIMES IS NOT YAH OR NAH ITS NA. YOU CANNOT MAKE UP YOUR MIND OR MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS
Let's not let the Clintons' use the White House for Bill's atonement. It didn't work for Giuliani.
Republicans for Obama
Man, ANYTHING to take the focus away from issues and place it on the back and forth B.S. of the horse race that is this Presidential campaign. Please, come on America. Quit letting the mainstream media pull the wool over your eyes and fill the airwaves with garbage.
CNN, Fox, MSNBC... It just doesn't matter anymore. We need someone to take back the country from the businesses and special interests. None of these candidates give a (darn) about you, your plight, or your ability to get by in life.
this Obama's "change" is becoming something very restricting to all of the people of this country. Either you blindly follow him, or you are doomed. Like in communistic country, or under dictatorship.
And don't you dare to use those words, but when he copies her plans, this is OK? To copy-cat her ideas, plans is much more serious plagiarism then to use a words which everybody uses.
I saw it on my own eyes on some of the debates, yes, he does copy!
This is why you don’t base your campaign on being a good speaker. If you're main push for the presidency is that you can use words to inspire people, then you better be using your OWN WORDS to do so. By taking excerpts from other speakers and rehashing them as you're own you lose all credibility.
Obama really should have run on substance, not rhetoric. At least when Hillary takes a phrase from someone else (ie: you don't have to be straight to shoot straight) she tells you who she's quoting before saying it…
This is crazy "Fired up ready to go" has been around for ages..By the way if you have a good inspirational speech you migh send it to Obama. He is good at delivering what someone else has written. That is what Opra's speech writers have done. So if you have a good one I bet he is interested in reading it.
I guess Hilary's camp must be out of issues to talk about because they are certainly spending more time talking about Obama than what she can do to fix the country!!!
The talk of plagiarism is sad, especially because most arguments are being made as if the candidates- and I mean both of them- are products. I am not naive, and I know a effective slogan can work wonders in such a commercial society, but the bottom line is that this story is not a worthy news story and the candidates are behaving poorly and childishly. I fear we are handing McCain his victory. Senator Obama's borrowing an approach from Gov. Patrick is not anything to be upset about. It fit perfectly with his position and his situation and he had discussed it with Gov. Patrick. On the other hand, Senator Obama can't patent the words "change" and "hope" and expect no one else to use them. Let's get back to the issues please. This is an insult to supporters of both campaigns.
I hope the news media covers this story . So much has been made about Obama's speeches. I am told "His speeches are so inspirational." Now we find out he is a fraud- He uses other people's speeches.
ALL YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS YOU STILL HAVE TO BE BLIND IF YOU CANNOT SEE THAT OBAMA TOOK AN ENTIRE SPEACH FROM DAVOL PATRICK, NOT JUST SOME WORDS FROM ANOTHER CANDIDATE, BUT AN ENTIRE SPEACH. THIS IS DISTURBING
It amazes me that have not heard much about the issues of the candidates. Obama just keeps on about history in the making. Then he keeps on with his rhetoric of negatives of other candidates.Yes he may be an good orator but that does not make him a good candidate for president. I want to hear more about the issues not negatives and the same old song and dance. As of right now I cannot see myself voting for either democratic candidate. If they are plagirizing that tells me that they do not have any new ideas just borrrowed. People need to take a good look at the candidates and listen. Watch out for hidden skeletons in both candidates.
Like Senator Clinton said at her last debate with the Junior Senator it took a Clinton to clean after the first Bush and it will take a Clinton to clean after the second one.
That's a joke ... is there a patent on words ? He shared a thought with a supporter of his – So what ? What's Billary's point ?
When Billary copied Obama's signature lines I thought that would be kind of lame, because they are in direct competition with each other. But since it's Billary , it is 'ok', right ?
See, the way Billary runs her hate & distortion campaign she may succeed with the simple minded voter – but the Democrats have to keep in mind that the actual presidential election is in November!
Billary turned me so off that I will rather vote for a Republican candidate in 2008 and a Republican Congress (in 2008 and 2010) before I would vote Mr. Bill Hate and Mrs. Hi-LIAR-ry Smear.
Frank & Family in Missouri
"If you’re going to be talking about the value of words, the words ought to be your own".
Please – let's get real here. What president or presidential candidate drafts his or her own speeches? NONE of them... certainly not our current idiot in chief... So what, exactly is the big deal here? Some speechwriter should have been more careful stealing ideas from some other speechwriter... So what???
Oh man now is where it gets silly. I am an Obama supporter but I am also glad to see the press digging in on him now. Of course if a few cribbed lines that are shared between two (and this story was already done a YEAR ago by the Boston Globe about Obama and Patrick sharing lines) friends I'm pretty confident in my choice to support Obama.
How is this Hillary's fault?
I see why the republicans hate the Clintons......all that negativity is enough to turn anybody off....
All of you are blickering like the ones you are referring to. So ALL of you need to grow up.
Obama is a baby! He needs to grow up and stop making excuses. He has yet to discuss political issues. He doesn't seem to know what's going on in the world. He wants to ride his wave into the White House and think that this song in dance is going to keep the world at peace. Someone please give him a speech on what his plan is for this country.
I guess this is HOW Hillary knows how to fight! Is this how Hillary and her surrogates have been TESTED? This issue so childish that it will soon start to TURN OFF independents like me who are out there for the Dems. Give it up, if Hillary was going to win this nomination, she would have done so before NOW. Each day, her chances gets SMALLER and smaller. She cannot afford to downhill with the Dem party!
The thing here is Obama supporters like him becayse they say he is inspirational,but this shows that he is only misleading the public.At least quote your sources,I would have more respect for him if he did so.
why is know one checking obamas bull about helping steelworkers if he gets away wiyh this lie the country is going to worse off please have reporter check these facts
I agree, stick to important issues like viability.
If Hillary is to remain viable, she'll need to show her official tax returns like everyone else. Anything other than a tax return would disqualify her from the race.
This should not have to wait until March – people are starting to believe that she is hiding something from the American people. If she wants to start improving her credibility/viability then she'll submit her actual tax return like everyone else .
To obama supporters: blind following the blind!
If we really want this country to go ahead then we really need to have a leader who`s has been tested allready.
How is Clinton to blame for any of this. Obama does not own general generic phrases. If so, maybe he should copywrite them.
Hillary never said words are not important. She said words without a plan to back them up are only words.
Obama took the change message from Hillary.
Obama supporters have no clue about his record, and most bother to attack Clinton instead of asking srious questions.
Hillary has not changed her position on issues from day one. She has been solid and its the media, not Hillary who is playing these games with everyone.
Obama lacks true experiance. He needs more time. He should not threaten his supporters to get their vote. He and wife have repeated many time if its not now its never. This man should care more about the people and less about his ego. I want a person who is willing to continue on, even if he loses.
Hillary gets knocked on every issue. 9 times out of 10, its biased or out right lies. I think the people who hate her so much need a reality check and should really look in a mirror before they cast the next stone.
Why are people making such a big deal about this?
Hillary stole Obama's lines, McCain did too.
But with a diference, Obama was "authorized" by Mr. Patrick to do so, but Hillary and McCain where not authorized to steal Obama's lines. And Hillary stole Edwards lines as well.
Stop with the nonsense Hillary, please. I still have a little bit of respect for you. But you are grasping at straws.
Italy for Obama
We have reached new lows in political absurdity. Are we running for President of the United States or President of the Student Council?
I am an Obama supporter who is more than willing to say that Obama needs to stay above this if he wants to keep his clear message of a new kind of politics.
I am sorry to say that I just expect this from the Clintons...
Obama: "As I said before, I really don't think this is too big of a deal."
Of course it's a big deal. You've been exposed as a liar and a thief! As a student I can say without hesitation that this kind of behavior would result in a failing grade at the least and suspension/expulsion at most.
How "petty" is this from both sides????
It was the Clinton campaign that informed the media,which makes them look even more desperate than first believed. What's sad is the media has actually moved on LOL! they are NOT reporting this as being a big story or big deal...LOL!LOL!
I'm sure this gives the Billary supporters something to talk about,since they can't very well talk about her recent victories.
She is still 8-0 you know!!!
We need something new and we are tired of BUSH -CLINTON-BUSH -CLINTON and in 4 years Clinton again( Chelsea) – america not only for you guys
Go Obama for Change – Take your chance!!!!!
This is really sad that Hillary would stoop to this level of pettiness. NO Candidate is speaking their OWN WORDS. ALL OF THEM HAVE SPEECH WRITERS. Which is why Hillary delivers her speeches so dry and uneventfully because they are NOT HER WORDS but what the campaign thinks is best said in each particular State.
This is REALLY SAD but the GOOD NEWS IS – after this year, we should NEVER HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE CLINTONS AGAIN! May they both go home, retire and LET CHELSEA HAVE A LIFE OF HER OWN FOR ONCE.
GET OVER IT HILLARY – this is PETTY AND SO ARE YOU!
Obama should come up with new phrase endings...
How about, "Let's make like a tree and leave?"
OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE SO BLIND, THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY. BUT WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING IS ATTACKING HILLARY FOR USING JUST WORDS FROM ANOTHER CANDIDATE NOT AN ENTIRE SPEACH. ALL YOU THAT HAVE VOTED IT'S TO LATE BUT NOW YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PRESIDENT THIS PHONY WILL BE, THE STATES OR THE AMERICANS THAT HAVE NOT VOTED, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE DO YOUR RESEARCH AND LOOK AT THE FACTS, BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR THIS PHONE CALLED OBAMA
Okay, enough is enough!
To both sides, Hillary supporters and Obama supporters, for your own sake, stop this non-sense bashing of one another. It will only make the republicans stronger.
Take a look at some of these comments:
"Hillary has no experience, she's a liar, deceitful, bla bla bla.."
"Obama is all words, he's full of hot air, bla, bla bla"
The truth is they are both about the same:
Not that trustworthy,
Have something up their sleeves,
both have lied at one point or another,
both have been unfair
Both have some voting records they are not proud of
They are both attacking one another and guess what people? They'll probably surprise all of us at the end and end up great political buddies.
So STOP wasting your breath and quit making the other democrats angry.
This is pathetic. All Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Obama and the Obama supporters say they won't vote for Hillary.
You are all going to LOSE! to the republicans. So, fine, don't vote for them and we'll end up in war for 100 years, we'll keep taxes high for the poor and low for the wealthy, healthcare will remain as horrible as it is now, our reputation around the world will keep deteriorating, we'll all be drafted for war and continue living in "fear" of terrorism!
Is that what all of you want??
Stop this NOW, quit insulting one another for supporting another candidate. We want a democrat in office. All this political bashing is a part of the game and you are all hurting the democratic party by this childish non-sense.
Democrat 08
Obama, why do you respond to critism in this manner? I yeah you aren't good at handling criticism, right! I heard that speech in Wisconsin and yes, it would have taken like 2 seconds to say " My good ole friend once said..." but you could say that and now your camp is claiming that she stole" Yes We Can" from YOU when that wasn't even YOURS to take??!!!!
Same ole politician to me. I am thinking twice about voting for you, Sir.
I thought you didn't care about speeches Hillary? So far, I'm pretty sure arguing about this is no solution.
Obama 08!
Are you kidding??!! This is not borrowing a word or two. This is an entire speech. This is plagiarism, pure and simple! This guy has no integrity!!!!!!!!!!
A new Clintion Support
Hi Joe
To answer you question! this goes back to the issue of trust between the two candidates If you are Obama and you cannot reply on your own ability to create inspire the American people? The big question is who is this person? What do you stand for; please do not tell me what I want to just hear. America deserves from the next president. This applies to both candidates. I need a president to restore honor and respect too our once great country. I like senator Obama but, I know a hustle when I see it and hear it. I have always followed gut feelings and for one thing that I don’t need my president to inspire me; I have my own faith in god to inspire me. God empowers us in a way that no politicians will every due. We need some with experience in a president sadly enough for the democratic nominee like it our not Senator Clinton has that edge.
Clinton 2008
All I can say is how desperate of a measure is this from the Clinton campaign?
How pathetic, is this what you really want in office for four to eight years?
GO OBAMA!
(I hope nobody else said that before or Hillary will be all over me too)
I'm ready from day one.I'm a solution.It's rethoric.
It's a stupid mantra from hillary. you don't prove anything same like
Bush.
Really...why she crack under pressure? easily to cry.what a shame.
Chief of staff of United States of America don't cry in Live telecast.
Hillary is nothing if no Bill clinton around.
Seems like Obama have to fight with two presidential candidates(Bill and Hillary)
For those who are criticzing Obama...may I suggest you check out a website titled "Friends of Bill"...after reviewing that website...then decide if you truly want 4 more years of the Clinton's in the white House.
After I reviewed it...theres no way I would ever even consider voting for Hillary
Gee whiz. Is this all CNN has to report? This is the pettiest of the petty. There are only so many words in the English language and only a small portion of them are motivational when placed in a phase. Please spend some time on posting something that matters from both campigns.
Oh yeah. OBAMA! 08!
There is a big difference between Hillary using common phrases like "Fired Up", which I use about 10 times a day and Barak using several sentences word for word from his "friend"'s speech from 2006!! Sounds to me like he just showed his true colors....same old Washington politics...and business as usual in Washington. If he wants to sell his campaign on the theory that he is about change we can believe in I would suggest he come up with some original thoughts to use in response to the Clinton Campaign. If he can't come up with his own thoughts on something this simple it is no wonder his healthcare plan leaves 15 million people uninsured.
I am that the media has picked this up. What saddens me most is the media (including majority of CNN's analysts) giving a positive spin to Obama and discounting everything about Hillary by ending it with a negative spin (especially Gloria Borges and Rollin(?)). President Bush won on his ability to reach across the aisle. That is a big talking point for Senator Obama. In Washington politics this is a big unknown.
The country has too many problems to gamble on an unknown. The media would have to be blamed if Senator Obama is elected because of its positive spin on Senator Obama and the unknown turns out to be bad for the country. We have experienced a Clinton presidency which was great. The media is discounting that as well in its effort to support the rhetoric. WAKE UP, AMERICA!
PS. Senator Obama WOULD be a great Vice President !
OOP, Go after McCain
He used "Fired Up Ready to GO."
Hillary has certainly never borrowed language or ideas from anyone. Right?
Let's see.... Yes we Can is from Cesar Chavez. Africans are holding up signs for Obama. I thought this was an election about the United States of America –its problems and ways to solve them–not for most popular "candidate" in Africa or South America...
Obama copied nothing. If I said "I havd a dream, " so I plagiarised MLK. Come on Wolf Blitzer & company!!! The Clintons have found another good distraction!!! HILARY IS A SORRY CANDIDATE. I HOPE SHE CRIES AGAIN TODAY, THERE IS ANOTHER PRMARY TOMORROW!!!! CRY HILARY CRY!!!!
OBAMA FOR AMERICA – YES! WE! CAN!
If they are repeating each others buzz, so what?...Why don't they just become one ticket and put us all out of imagined misery...We're all getting fed up with 'He said' 'She said'.
Not so fast, Kathleen. It's not over until it's over.
Hillary '08
CLINTON = DESPERATE
Honestly, CNN, please get control of yourselves. It would seem in the quest for 24/7 news, you guys are grasping at straws in the bottom of the barrel, and essentially belittling the importance of this election.
Copying a few words with the consent and respect of a fellow pundit is not this big a deal. Why not use this opportunity to examine political speeches instead of presenting this as "news". You will probably find there is a lot of leveraging of effort.
Case in point: That shallow discussion of Bill Clinton "possibly" dealing with a heckler. Hey, lets start reporting that no one saw Elvis today...please.
This childish trash talk is really getting out of line. I'm not referring to what the candidates are saying, but rather the comments posted here. I think an awfully lot of people need to look in the mirror while spouting the "grow up" line.
A question I feel needs asking.
This is my first time blogging.
I had a question I wanted to be asked of Senator Obama in either the CNN or MSNBC debate on February 21st. Since I could not find a way to contact anyone at CNN.com, I found a way to email Tim Russert of NBC/MSNBC. The following is a copy of that email.
Mr. Russert,
I could not find on MSNBC's website who will be moderating the upcoming Democratic Debate on Thursday, Feb. 21, but I hope it would be yourself. I have a question I would like to see posed to Senator Obama, and how I would like to see it posed. Incidentally, I think my proposed posing of the question is rather "Russertesque". Although lenghtly, it is a yes or no quesstion. Here it is: A vast number of democratic voters feel that at issue isn't whether yourself or Senator Clinton win the Presidency, but rather that a Republican not win the Presidency. Since it looks like Senator McCain has a lock on being the Republican nominee, republican voters needn't vote republican at all, and in fact, in those states that allow republicans to crossover and vote for democratic candidates, as many suspect has already happened, and by doing so, further your chance of success as the democratic nominee, resulting in an Obama v. McCain matchup in the general election, do think it is in the realm of possibility that it is the republican game plan, despite their contention that they would rather run against Senator Clinton, it is actually yourself that they want as the democratic candidate, and that in fact, come the general election, those republican who whisper to you that they support you, will in fact, vote for Senator McCain in the general election, thereby thwarting for a third election any hopes of defeating the Republican Party? So that is the question I would like to see the moderator of the debate ask. Of course, being somewhat of a realist, I feel that the aforementioned question will never get asked on national television, so I will post it on the blogs as well, adding to the myriad of political cyber-fodder.
* firsttimeblogger's blog
Obama needs to be held accountable for every detail that emerges in this campaign, in the same way that Sen. Clinton has to.
So far Obama has said that this plagerism charge is "no big deal" and that his involvement with the criminal "slumblord" Tony Resko from Chicago was"boneheaded"
What kind of explanation are these remarks.
This isn't an attack on Obama its' all about accountability!!!!!!!!!
People, wake up! If you don't like Clinton, pick John MaCain over Obama. Don't just follow, do your own research. Contribute to America!
Thank you!
Puh-leeze!! Hillary saying, "We are fired up and we are ready to go" was an in-your-face play on Obama's tiresome chant. Obviously she knew it was his line, everyone realized it, and she was just turning it against him. She never seriously took that phrase or pretended it was her own.
And you know what? It has to be pretty hard for Hillary to run a campaign against such an immature candidate. She presents herself for what she is, a candidate running for the highest office in the U.S. and talking real issues. Obama, on the other hand, appears as if he's running for student-body president, with all the prancing around the stage, shadow-boxing, hip-hop music blaring, making lame jokes, chuckling to himself, while crowds of teeny-boopers sob and reach out just to get a touch of their idol.
Hi Joe
To answer you question! this goes back to the issue of trust between the two candidates If you are Obama and you cannot rely on your own ability to create inspire the American people? The big question is who is this person? What do you stand for; please do not tell me what I want to just hear. America deserves from the next president. This applies to both candidates. I need a president to restore honor and respect too our once great country. I like senator Obama but, I know a hustle when I see it and hear it. I have always followed gut feelings and for one thing that I don’t need my president to inspire me; I have my own faith in god to inspire me. God empowers us in a way that no politicians will every due. We need some with experience in a president sadly enough for the democratic nominee like it our not Senator Clinton has that edge.
It is really telling that Obama does something wrong and CNN tries to make it look like Clinton's fault. She shouldn't even be mentioned in this article. I am so tired of the media being up his butt.
This is ridiculous to say the least, Negativity is a sign of who is losing the race,
I am an Obama fan, not cause of his speeches but cause of what he believes in, if i repeated a speech of JFK that doesnt mean I wanna be JFK but cause i believe in what JFK is saying.
Dirty games and negative attacks, once we hear "Present" votes in Illonis, then black votes, then speeches stolen from a friend, then public financing, then "Rezko"
I see a point of Obama attacking Hillary on her vote on Iraq, cause that is related to a main issue of the campaign.
I read some guys saying disparate times require disparate measures, i think Hillary is only hurting herself again, SC repeating herself and she is not learning,
I have alot against Hillary,, but i think she wanna just stay in News, if we wanna talk negative,, how about the way her campaign been handled,, financial matters, organization, caucuses performance.
I expect a good president to know -at least- how to manage his/her own campaign in an efficient and effective way,
i hate seeing this going dirty cause Reps will be laughing their head off waiting for November to keep the white house for another 4 miserable years. wake up Democrats. I want OH and TX to vote Obama and then Clinton should drop out, cause no point of dragging this longer.
and for now,, Please no disparate measures cause they are disgusting.
Mashawnda, North Carolina February 18th, 2008 12:42 pm ET
Its evident that Clinton's camp believes that Obama's speeches are the only thing that he has on her…This is petty, and I wish the Obama camp would not respond to matters like this…
You're right. Hillaryland is frustrated because the "speech" thing is the ONLY weapon they have.
It's petty and it's childish....But here the tee..hee...hee...
Bill Clinton's antics over the week end is what the media is talking about.!!! LOL!LOL! NOT THIS! LOL!LOL!
This is exactly the reason why no clinton will get my vote. She's desperate and at this point and her ugliness is showing – this is typical of our government in the last 7 years. Enough. Hillary can't even run a decent campaign, how can she run this country?
Big speaker won't give US food or better school or health care !!!!!!
USA needs Hillary to clean up, the same as her husband have done after first Busch. Americans needs a hard working person, not easy going Big speaker, who starteed his politycal carrier beeing link with Rezko businessman (corrupted).
We don't need more currupted people in the White Hause !!!!!!!
The best and only one candidate to leed the country is Hillary !!!!!!
Joann.
Defending yourself is not whining.
Angela.
Barack came out with his economic plan in October – a month before Hillary came out with hers.
I HAVE HAD IT WITH ALL THE IDOTS FROM TEXAS AND OTHER STATES THAT SUPPORT HILLARY AND HER BRAND OF POLITICS, WHAT OBAMA OFFERS US IS HOPE AND A FRESH START FOR THE FUTURE! AS A MOTHER OF THREE GROWN CHILDREN AND 6 GRANDCHILDREN I AM THINKING OF THIER FUTURE, AND OBAMA IS OUR FUTURE, ENOUGH SAID. ! OBAMA SUPPORTER WISCONSIN
Go Hillary!
I just love how OBAMA sent in the HECKLER in to Bill Clinton's Speech.
OBAMA must really be worried.
I will vote HILLARY if her name is not there I will vote McCain.
EDWARDS you better get the bad tatics that OBAMA is using.
Since Obama has high popularity due to his "speaking abilities and ways he brings hope" wouldn't this just prove the fact that he is empty.. Not only does he have not have any substance, but now his inspiring words are proven not to be all his... I have lost all faith in this candidate.... I'd rather vote for someone with substance regardless of the party.....
All of you Sen. Obama lovers: what do you really know about this man? Yes he can give a great speech.........oops even if the words are not his. Do any of you realize 2/3 of the states he has won thus far are never going Democratic in the General Election. Wake up and smell the coffee. Your vote for "change" will do nothing but ensure a McCain victory. It's not too late.....come to the other side and you will see the light. GO HILL!
Hillary is desperate, and the more desperate she gets, the more of a turn-off she is. The age of dirty fighting is over. America wants something new.
OBAMA 08
Obama's people want to coin simple phrases–well that's fine. But when you say "si se puede" –don't coin that as your own. I'm hispanic and if I want to use it for Hillary...THEN I WILL.
If you want to sue me, please do. Grow up Obama cult!
These people — the Clintons, Wolfson, Penn and the whole sorry bunch — have run a remarkably horrendous campaign and they look like amateurs.
I could find a dozen poli sci juniors at GW and do better.
What a waste of money.
Give us a break!!! Wake up America, why are we suddenly embracing a candidate that shares the same middle/name a the " scary man" SADDAM HUSSAIN? And he wnts to talk to all of the dictators immediately after he gets the presidency! Where is his loyalty and patriotism, have we all forgotten–Gulf One and 911?
Wait, his momentum was created by the generation that is not or was not aware of "history" yet.
Yes we can change???????? Yet he surrounds himself with the same cronies of OLD WASHINGTON! He is surrounded by the same advisers of the previous CLINTON Administration. Kindly explain to me and my family–a five generation Florida Democrats ( who is probably more AMERICAN than he is) why our VOTES don't count??????
Hey joann...
Oh Man – boo hoo, boo hoo from Obama again. He just can't take it like a man. He has to come back with every little thing. Everyone says they don't like the fighting but Obama seems to be at the forefront every time. He's such a whiner.
Ah...I think you need to read the article again, it's the Clinton cam that's doing the whining, once again.
I HOPEPEOPLE ARE AWAKE IN TEXAS WHEN WE VOTE AND RELIZE OBAMA DOES NOT HAVE THE QUALIFCATION NEEDED TO LEAD THIS COUNTRY.HE IS GREAT ON WORDS BUT WORDS ARE CHEAP AND DO NO NOT REPLACE EXPRENCE.
BUDDY
TEXAC
What spin is that? Since when is all fired up and ready to go Obama's
signature??
All politicians borrow or adapt or steal from each other and history. There is no news here.
But I do want to know something. Barak Obama smokes, right? I don't care that he smokes – not at all.
But why is it that we never see him smoke? Is Barak a secret smoker? When he delivers all those great feel good "yes we can" speeches, does he really yearn to get off stage to smoke? And when he does smoke, does he do it in a secret service protected area? I don't smoke, but I'd love to bum a smoke off him.
Shame on you Obama campaign. I used the word yes today. I must have stolen that from you.
I lost count a loooong time ago as to how many times Hillary copied Obama's speeches but "tried" to make them her own.
If he gets a good response, she's saying the same thing the VERY next day. I can't believe the public hasn't noticed this!!!
He's original, insightful and wise.
She wants to be but isn't.
The problem is not that one candidate is co-opting the words of another. It is that Obama is presenting his words as the center-piece of his election, rather than policy. As a result, his words have to be his own. As he has said, words matter. Well, they matter less when they are not your own and you have nothing of substance to back it up. Besides, we could also give credit to Bob the Builder for "yes we can" as well as Cesar Chavez. So ," yes we can" does not belong to Obama, he coopted from others and it is being co-opted from him. The problem is then there is nothing left.
MD : "Hillary – Please don't say words are cheap. Bill makes $800K for these speeches"
well, Mr. Clinton also does say things in his speeches, he also does help around the world, just do some research on his Global Initiative site.
Insulting Mr. Clinton is like insulting Einstein, or others who did and do a lot for this world and people.
MD, what have you done for people, or world? What kind of speech are you able to do?
I personally cannot speak publicly, I would have butterflies in my stomach. I can voice myself on paper, but voicing does not mean insulting. It means to state the facts. And the fact is that Mr. Clinton is wonderful speaker, leader, caring person. Cannot take this way from him no matter how nasty the comments are. Obama seems good speaker, but it does not move me. It does not feel genuine to me – and again, this is my opinion, and will be as such. I watched enough of debates and parts of Obama's speeches, cannot take him talking for too long – it is way too repetitive, not really interesting after short time. Sorry.
I get fired up by unfairness, by limited thinking. Cannot be silent when hearing such a mess.
Hillary has the right to point on things, as Obama does. Obama is excused of anything, Hillary not.
Hillary 08!
I saw a cartoon that titled his book
"The Audacity of Running for President with No Platform, Little Experience, No Money and No Organization." How appropriate!
I guess the No money part does not apply any more since Aunt Oprah and Uncle George Soros have taken care of that.
The man is a scam. Just hearing him talk in Wisconsin the other night made me want to puke. He is such an arrogant little thing.
I have noticed that the US news media are now referring to Hillary Clinton as Senator and to Barack Obama as "Mr. Obama" or simply Barack Obama.
Please show SENATOR Obama the same respect given to SENATOR Hillary Clinton. The ommission is offensive.
William B Lewis wrote:
'I am tired of the "lack of specifics" charge against Obama. His campaign website has policy manifestoes which have as much detail as those of Hillary Clinton.
Why is Hillary the default "expert" on policy? This argument is a new type of attack. Not racism or sexism, but agism and I am sick of it.'
Perhaps he not want to present his ideas in his speeches or to debate the issues in debates is because the policy ideas all over his website were actually written by his advisers and he's afraid he might not be able to actually talk about them in detail because he may actually get "lost" in the details? Hence the reason so many Obama followers simply send people to his website for details, and even HE sends people to his website for details instead of talking about them on the stump.
At least Senator CLinton IS able to present and debate the issues IN DETAIL she has on her website.
Repeating phrases like "Yes,we Can" or "Fired up and ready to go" are not plagiarism. These are in common speech and used by everyone.
But, when you copy what amounts to a couple of paragraphs directly from anothers speech such as Obama did over the weekend from a 2006 speech by Gov Patrick, you are clearly committing plagiarism. Mr Axelrod even tried to cover for Obama in saying,"they often riff off each other". That does not make it any better. Obama cannot toss this off...it is plagiarism! It lays bare a serious flaw in Obamas character.
Think Team Clinton is just a tad bit desperate?
They know they are in an extremely bad situation and there's not much they can do to turn things around. Therefore, they are going to be grasping at straws (like this one) and just throwing out anything and everything they can to see if they can halt the huge momentum Obama has right now.
Problem is, when they resort to these tactics it only reminds people of why they distrust and dislike Hillary to begin with.
As close as Obama and Patrick are, were's the issue? Obama was defending himself from the same sort of attacks that Patrick faced, and in both instances, they used famous phrases from HISTORICAL speeches. This is plagerism, it's smart politics from a very good political tandum.
Hillary's borrowed some of Bill's material, I'm sure. Do we call that plagerism?
Well, how ridiculous is that??? Lately, all that you ever hear
from her is what she copies from Obama.It is desperate to
lie. She also attacks him first, then blames him for attacking her. I can't believe that people really believe her.
Haven't the American people heard enough lies from the
Republicans and Pres. Bush????Come ladies, all races,
all religions. Jump on the winners team. From one lady to
another, vote for a winner.
She cannot change the rules of the DNC by wanting the
Fla. and Mich. votes to count. The Party made those rules
upfront. It would just show how unfair our country has become.
BE FAIR DNC's and Howard Dean and Nancy Polisi.
OBAMA 2006 Yes, we can!! THOSE ARE OBAMA WORDS!
“Yes, We Can” and “Fired Up, Ready to Go.” - are you kidding? I'm supprised they didn't get down on him for saying, "How you doing?"
I would be careful charging plagiarism when some lines are agreed to during a phone conversation.
Then I suggest reading "The Audacity of Hope" if the Clinton camp wants to value words. If reading the book is beneath them, they can listen to the spoken word CD.
I find Barack's book superior than anything written by the Clintons. And Barack's speeches are on an even keel with anything coming from the Clintons.
The Clintons can't comprehend the new leader of the Democratic Party, Barack Obama. It's time the rest of America realizes the same thing.
even Bill would say "Give me a break" i heard Hillary say that she taking her ball and going home...... (i think she's a sore loser)
So If Hillary says Fired up, ready to go that is the SAME as coping some one's speech? I think not! Nice try NObama!!
I only hope the debate is filled with enough words to give the people a clear analysis of each respected candidate and greater detail on how each expects to lead our great nation in a positive direction.
For God's sake can Clinton get anymore juvenile? I've used the preamble and Dr. Kings lines to make a point. So have millions of others. Is this petty harpy really what we want to represent our country. I'm all for a woman president but not this woman with her screaming, out of control husband and her I'm to special to bother daughter. This family is a sham. America can do better.
Well now, old pouty face is trying to TAR Hillary Clinton with his brush. But the difference is, HILLARY is not the one, with the fact that obama and all his precious words he spews to his cult members are taken from other people's speeches.....HE is the one who tells his members that HE gives them hope and inspiration, er uh taken from other peoples speeches.
HOW COME WHEN POUTY FACE gets caught doing something wrong he blames Hillary. Guess it is because the MSM has always had a habit of doing it...WHAT A SEXIST PIG.
For God sake, this is not an "authorship" contest.....the real power is in "who delivered and how it is delivered".
Hillary, get over it. Even if you "recite" Obama's words, it will be dull and boring as usual......and ....
Hillary, please stop nodding your head after every slogan you utter.
I said it about one week ago in this forum (but dont know if CNN accepted my comments..I say it like i see it ) Clinton in one of her speeches right after the many defeats, and I think it was in Texas she copied Senator Obama's not only style of campaigning but some of his very own statements........and I said it, desperate people will go to desperate measures.. she even added music, (a thing that the Obama campaign had been doing all along.... I noticed it because she added U2 which in my eyes was but a copy of the Obama campaign). THen she used yes we can.. and I want to bring hope, and literally was using even puting her hands on her chest a very gesture that Senator Obama does at every speech, she also lowered her voiced and imitated him.. I said it then, about one or two weeks ago, right after she lost in the east coast...........i noticed it because she is often so agressive and loud and senseless...............
I guess if I went around the country making speeches that
stated that I was against the invasion of Iraq – true, by the way -
I was skeptical from the start – Obama would say I 'copied" him.
Will someone take the mirror away from this guy?
And HIll, dont get trapped in this kind of talk – the Press and the
Obamites cant get enough of him – even though his words ( or are they)
ring hollow?
its funny that the clinton campaign even mentions this at all.
Didn't Senator Joe Biden have to suspend his presidential run in 1987 due to plagiarism? Why should we have a double standard for Barack Obama?
Hillary '08
Hillary is getting desperate ... she doesn't have a prayer now that billy is out picking fights and scolding opponents ...
Get over it people. They all use each other words at times...So What...What is the big deal??? Its okay to quote Reagan...which the GOP's do but not each other? Common...give me a break. CNN...you are making too big of a deal of something that its not even there. I'm not sure why this should even make your news page
If the Clinton camp is now trying to accuse Obama of plagarism when the man who originally spoke those words claims its not an issue and that they share a lot of the same thoughts, you might as well let the mudslinging commence.
Words DO matter. You think MLK's idea of equal rights was novel? You don't think a lot of his speeches were messages others had spoken? You don't think Regan's "tear down that wall" speech wasn't thought of and spoken by many? We all want change. We all speak of it. But when a man such as Obama speaks, it's inspirational and give you that "feeling." He's a uniter, not a divider and truly believes in the humanity of people. The Clintons-and man do I love Bill–are political machines.
Word of advice to the Clinton Camp,
If you are going to criticize someone for using other people's rhetoric, make sure you haven't stolen rhetoric from that person repeatedly. Obama continues to amaze me with poignant and relevant arguments, while the Clinton Camp continues to amaze me with irrelevant, childish distractions. Hey Dems, hurry up and elect Obama so that the Clinton will stop degrading the quality of our headlines... not to mention country.
This is sad if this is all she has to attack him for.
Clinton's mindless distractions are an insult to the intelligence of the American people. Next she'll try to convince us that Obama just stole his ideas from Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy. Sorry, Mrs. Clinton. These are American ideas. They're not for sale. They belong to all of us.
Clinton's campaign is a nasty joke. I hope the Democratic party doesn't fall for it.
Ditto Joe!!!
I used to be a Florida Democrat–it doesn't matter if they count our votes or note–I've already changed my registration to independent–and I won't vote for either one of these two weenies. Myself and my friends spilled guts and blood in holes around the globe defending this nation and it's ideals.
I'm not happy with a lot of things in America–but to embrace a wholly socialist ideology at this point in my life–ain't happening!
McCain-08
Okay, this is getting ridiculous! Obama and Patrick are friends. Obama used the same material in his US Senate run. Patrick's people shared his speech materials with Obama's people.
Clinton is a sick, slimy, sleazy B. There is no way she will get my vote tomorrow.
The Clintons are cornered and like any animal it will lash out in all directions to stay alive. She is falling like a rock and will try and say anything at this point to live.
Oops... in my first entence I have omitted the "happy" after "I am"
People continue to say HRC is a person of actions with solutions. What has she solved and what ideas has she formulated as senator of new york? Please enlighten me HRC supporters.
All this nonesense just makes me want to vote for McCain now. And that's pretty bad!
Barack Obama is clearly all about giving great speeches, but doesn't have the depth of knowledge to back up how this change will take place. He should've clearly given tribute to Patrick, it would've taken one line. And about Clinton speaking about change, she has always spoken about change. I dont get how people forget that. Just because you put it on a sign doesn't make it something that you alone bring or give.
CNN must be getting desperate for news to cover about the campaigns
Who really cares whose words they use
all candidates use other leaders words all the time
find something newsworthy to report
Believe me the Clintons or McCain are NOT change
just more of the same
anyone who votes for them is being suckered into more of the same old washington thats been around for 30 years
Vote Obama at least he is real change and deserves the chance to prove it
ALL I KNOW IS THE MORE I DO MORE RESEARCHING, LIKE ABC HAS MENTIONED THE MORE OBAMA HAS TAKE ENTIRE SPEACHES FROM DEVOL PATRICK. HUMMMMMM, OBAMA LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE YOU ARE A PHONY. YOUR VOTING RECORD IS DISTURBING IN THE SENATE NOT YAY OR NAH BUT NA, YOUR FLIP FLOPING IS GETTING WORST AS DAY'S GO BY, IN ONE OF THE DEBATES YOU ARGUED AGAINST HILLARY AND EDWARDS ON UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE WAS BAD, NOW WAIT A MINUTE YOU ARE FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE? I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE, NOW HE IS TAKING ENTIRE SPEACHES FROM DAVOL PATRICK. NOT JUST WORDS, ENTIRE SPEACHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, WAIT OBAMA SUPPORTERS, MORE EVIDENCE WILL SOON LEAK OUT THAT OBAMA IS A PHONY JUST WAIT............
The word, "Universal" as in Universal Health Care, was never heard from the Obama camp until they realized the progress she is making using the term, "Universal Health Care." Look closely and you'll see Obama spouting Hillary's word, "Solutions."
To the person who says this is taking on shades of "Student Council elections, got it right. Every time it seems that Obama has metamorphasized into a real adult, here he comes with "well she said it too!" Give us a break and grow up!!! I shutter at the thought of such a person ascending to the highest office in the world.
why should this suprise anyone , Obamas copied from Dr. King and JFK whats the difference?
Obama, stop your whining! You stole 'Yes we can' from the Farmworkers who are strong supporters of Hillary. 'Si Se Puede' is their phrase and it translates to 'Yes We Can.' Remember? You fractured the phrase in Spanish when you tried to convince Mexican-Americans we should vote for you. You underestimated our memory of having been ignored until you realized our numbers and knew you needed our votes.Go Hillary!
Good for you Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HILLARY SUPPORTERS FOR MCCAIN NEXT NOV.!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least we know what we 'll get!!!!!
Also, what are nobamas plans for Africa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Clintons have stolen everything successful that Obama has said or done. Oh, and lets not forget Hillary going to a southern black church earlier this year quoting a song with a phony condescending southern accent. She'll say and do anything.
Obama using well known phrases or snippets of other peoples speeches to make his point is something every single politician does. People copy other peoples phrases every day. So what. This just shows how desperate the Clintons are. They are in the mode of throwing as much as they can to see what sticks and they don't care how petty and bullying they have to behave. Their behavior is nauseating.
HEY – what about the Republicans? They ALL sound alike. So who is plagerizing whom in that party?
This is ridiculous. The fact is that the words or phrases that Obama used are not Deval's words or phrases. They belong to the original users. Obama was just trying to make a point which has evidently gotten lost in the usual crap that the Clintons put out. They do not deserve to be in the White House. Just imagine how awful it will be to have the Clintons back - doesn't anyone remember the awful years of fighting and bickering. That is what they are best at - it totally limits any accomplishments they may have had (which were actually few if one were to list them).
TO MOEY: I BELIEVE YOU PROBABLY MIGHT BE A TYPICAL OBAMA SUPPORTER. SHE CANNOT ASK BILL TO BE HER VICE PRESIDENT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION. IF SHE WERE TO DIE, HE WOULD THEN BECOME PRESIDENT, AND UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE. DO SOME RESEARCH.
PLEASE. DO WE HAVE TO CORRECT THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL FACTS AND THE TRUE DEFINITION OF PLAGIARISM?!
AND THEY SAY THE AVERAGE OBAMA SUPPORTER IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THE AVERAGE HILLARY SUPPORTER. I THINK NOT.
Have you seen the movie Man of the Year with Robin Williams.
Well, you should.
There is one scene where Robin Williams Character is a making a speech: He says something to the effect that there are NO Red States, or Blue States, just the UNITED STATES.
So, is Obama also a movie buff, because it is very much like his favorite lines.
Obama is a bit of a snake oil salesman.. nothing specific, but lots of rhetoric. Seems he borrows from many sources.
Is there any line that the Hill campaign won't cross to get this nomination. This actually discourages me from politics and it's kinda scary. How negetive will they go? I fear we have barely scratched the surface of what they are capable of doing or saying to win. I like hillary, but how low will they go because I am liking her less as each day goes by.
Concerned Democrat.
I just realized that this came out the day after OBAMA and EDWARDS met. I guess now we know that EDWARDS will ENORSE OBAMA!!
John,
get your own life, and stop being so annoying.
This proves what a PHONY he is. No ideals of his own, no plan of his own, now he don't even have any words he can call his own. What a joke, inexperenced joke he is. I hope this story go's around like wild fire. It's about time the press is looking in the wonder boy ,the change agent. BIG JOKE
I am concerned that although thousands of people did not vote in the Primaries in Florida based on agreed terms "Hillary" and the democratic party; but, now that "SUPER TUESDAY" did not give Hillary Clinton what she expected, she is now requesting that the votes in Florida be counted regardless of those that believed that ethics ruled and stayed home and did not vote. Is this the kind of President that you can trust to uphold the "LAW", "RULE", "POLICY" and "ETHICS"; no wonder we are in war that the people did not authorize.
This is really a non issue. Lets see this past summer clinton ridiculed Obama for his change message and when that message caught on with voters whom do you think started talking about change surely it wasn't hillary? After Obama started talking about yes we can whom do you think started talking about yes we can surely not hillary?
the only thing clinton can think of is I know how to battle republicans which leads one to believe she is really on a vendetta of revenge against republicans. look at the candidates this way:
hillary =me, myself and I + bill=hillary and bill=clintons
Obama =we, us, inclusive, yes we can =we the people=country=U.S.
What about Billary's CLAP-CLAP-POINT-POINT victory dance ... now that's an original ! Unfortunately her dirty smear tactics are neither original nor new ... that's just from Karl Rowe's textbook.
Bill and Hillary are getting desperate. They will try anything to discredit Obama.
Hey, this is not plagiarized – Hawaiians enjoy the benefits of MED-QUEST which was health insurance for the low income group in Hawaii. Employers with 20 employees provided insurance to them. It was Bill Clinton who started the MED-QUEST in Hawaii. In contrast, what has Obama done for Hawaii, his birthplace, in his 2 years in the US Senate? NOTHING. Maybe Obama will step up to the plate and plagiarize the Republicans' dismissing this Clintonian benefit as old politics? Hawaiians have a good memory and heartfelt sense of gratitude for the Clintons and use this sense to blunt the wave of Anti-Hillary hatred Obama's supporters have been cultivating not only in Hawaii but nationwide. I am sure Hillary will do better than her husband in serving Hawaii in the future. Hillary can plagiarize Bill's Med-Quest and make improvements for the benefit of the HAWAIIANS. In Hawaii, Go Hillary!
It makes me sick when Hillary comes out with all these childish accusations just to make things ugly. This woman looks uglier to me each and every time I see or hear about her.
Obama is a gifted speaker and a revolutionist so he uses words to convey his ideas...This is not all to him, of course..look at his accomplishments. But this ugly woman wants to belittle it so that he is not as convincing any more...calling it empty rhetoric...
If his words are empty rehtoric why does she borrow them herself. I even listened to John McCain saying 'I am fired up and ready go'
when Obama started talking about change and people became interested, didn't everybody from both parties label themsleves 'change agent'
Hillary, stop this it will not help you, it will only hurt you...you should grow up! But then at 60 I don't know how much more growing up you can do but just try.
obama is all about speeches. He attacks hillary and puts her down. This junior senator who is so arrogant in his speeches is so full of himself.Right from the start he showed no respect for a senior senator.He seems to not know the rules of the senate . he has a cult falling of young people who don't know nothing about government and how things work. The media is such a disgrace in the U.S. they have not asked anything or questioned anything of obama. why did they not challenge him when he says he only worked maybe 5hours of work for a corrupt rezko when it was for years!!!! why didn't they ask him why he lied? he says clinton is the past. Why does he surround himself with her and bills advisors and have people like kennedy etc on his team if they are the past and they need a new vision the vision is the clintons except hers are better eg. health care for all!!!!!!!!the media and the newspapers that support obama say they do run stories positive of obama.Excuse me i thought the media was to report objectively but it is a clinto bashing from day one. the media is the ones running the polls down for hillary they started from day one and they have crowned obama it produces ratings.Well as a canadian i can say so much for your democracy, it is a joke. Please give up the preaching that you go around the world to bring honesty to elections when you can't do it in your own country.How sad !!!!!!!! that you are giving an election to a person you know nothing about his positions his back ground etc. we love hillary she would be a great president!
Oh please!!! Obama plagiarizes an ENTIRE speech AND much of Hillary's well thought out plans for our country.
Add to that, how can you say that "all fired up" and "yes we can" belongs to Obama? Those words show up in daily conversation...when I'm excited about something I say "I'm all fired up! Does that mean I'm lifting from Obama? Give me a break.
By the way, "Si se puede" originated from Cesar Chavez and the Chavez family supports Hillary...therefore Obama technically lifted that from Hillary.
GROW UP!!!
The sick persons on this blog that say they will vote for McCain (the next Bush in the making) are all sick. I guess after you do that you will use Hillary's famous slogan. I REGRET.... LOL
Obama's camp has sunk really low. "Fired up and ready to go" is hardly rhetoric worth fighting for...anyone can spew those cliches. Obama and Patrick are both under the management of Axelrod and the whole camp clearly has no issue with borrowing from a friend. Axelrod admits their tone and rehtoric is similar, but where do you draw the line between similarities and copying off a friend who has no problem helping out? Let's face it, Obama and Patrick are both puppets of Axelrod. Maybe we should forget about Obama and put Axelrod on the ticket since he's the communications genius behind the Obama/Patrick machine!
Hey Obamamite cultists Defend your plagiarist. BHO is just a phony. He lifts speeches, he steals policies. go Hillary, kick his ...
Plagiarism, huh Obama? Signature phrases, huh CNN? "Yes, we can?" Translate it to Spanish and it is "Si, Se Puede". Obama's been plagiarising since day one. Hey who knows maybe hes got MLA format all over his speeches. Disgusting...same old politics from Obama...don't let him fool you.
Obama is showing that he is not as trustworthy as many think. Plagerism is considered a serious matter.
The ship has sunk. CNN this is not news who cares. Who are you spinning this for Clinton or Obama? Obama 2008
Joann February 18th, 2008 12:44 pm ET
Oh Man – boo hoo, boo hoo from Obama again. He just can't take it like a man. He has to come back with every little thing. Everyone says they don't like the fighting but Obama seems to be at the forefront every time. He's such a whiner. Hillary has been very dignified and a true lady through all the Media's scrutiny of her. I think if I took as much "hate" and bad mouthing as MSNBC, CNN and FOX news has given her I'd have lost it by now and would have blown up. Her attitude is so good. She always comes out with a smile, she always takes questions and shakes hands, takes pictures until the sun goes down and then leaves with that same smile. I never see any of this from Obama. He doesn't smile (that's a gas pain), he doesn't take questions (because he has no answers) he's just too sullen. Go Hillary
Obama camp has never initaited the conflict. Hillary doesn't exactly answer questions...I've been waiting for over a year to hear her explanation on why she voted for the war...
But enjoy this non-event Hillary supporters....It's been a long time since you've had anything to talk about,OTHER than eight straight losses!
Hillary... presidential does not equal petty. Bad form.
I went to a concert Saturday night here in Austin, and this band – an amazing guitar duet played this amazing and very lively set.
However, during the show they riffed a couple of chords from The Who and Led Zepplin. Each time, they stopped and one of the roadies came out to cite the source.
C'mon fellow 'crats. Let's not get carried away. Neither candidate is 100% original, and neither is a proven liar or crook.
Can we debate the merits of their health-care plans or whether one will be ready on day one and the other right...
LMAO.
The problem is most American only hear what they
want...they want to hear about change and better government.
So that is what they are hearing from Obama. They are just
words that will hopefully get him elected...you should be
wondering who or what is behind this candidate who has
virtually no experience and certainly not the money to run such
a successful campaign...several weeks ago you could compare
the corporations that were donating to his campaign...they were
amazingly identical to Hillary's...however that material has been
removed from websites.....aaahh..what's up with that Obama?
Perhaps you all should go back to a speech that Kerry made
4 years ago where "we are fired up and ready to go" was part
of a speech made alongside of his military buddies.
Come on people, smarten up...your being had by a great
orator....
Obama is as fake as the three dollar bill, even his inspirational words are not his own; he borrowed it from JFK, RFK, MLK, BILL CLINTON and others.
For months many people have been calling him "empty suit" an emperor with no clothes. Finally, the media are catching up what majority of the American people have known for a long time.
One thing with new technology, the media don't have monopoly anymore. Senior citizens spend an average of 70 hours a week surfing the internet, they're not uninformed as a lot of young people perceive them to be especially the media.
Two third grade scuffling to show that they can act like the President of the United States of America. Exactly what we've come to expect from democrat wannabees since the likes of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
Yes, it sounds like whining. BUT, as John Kerry learned the hard way, if you let your opponent define you wrongly, and you don't nip it in the bud, and set things straight, it can become lethal. What is truly sad, is that Hillary sets such a poor tone. She's been grasping at straws for weeks, and for those paying attention, she only hurts herself. Unfortunately, there are those who DON'T pay enough attention, to see her manoeuvering for what it is.
Yes We Can is NOT
Just so you Obama people know, the Clinton Campaign did not start this. An ABC commentator did in a column he wrote. Complain to him.
“Yes, We Can” and “Fired Up, Ready to Go.”
Are you kidding? Are the Clintons trying to say these two and three word phrases are patented or subject to FIPT?
Do I need to get written approval to say them? What a joke? Hillary's desperation is getting ridiculous.
J.inPA,
I don't expect anything better of the Clintons either......Obama needs to stay positive and keep it moving....this is sooooo petty and destructive.
Obama does demonstrate a pattern of using Hillary's policy issues as his ideas. I watched his face as Hillary spoke at the last debate. It was interesting to watch his eyes connect with her ideas.
This is much different than using general mantras that Barack took from others originally.
I hope he never has to face the Republicans.
If not Hillary then John McCain – Barack can whip up a crowd but he can't do the job.
Hillary the Hope of 08
The Clinton ship is sinking. The so called "experienced and full of substances" candidate is resorting to personal attacks. Too late to little. Hillary just give up because none one is listening to your phony message.
Yes We Can
Obama 08
Desparation!
It is shameless what Hillary's camp is doing.
Instead Relaease the Tax Returns. What are you hiding?
It is amazing why Hillary's supporters don't demand the release of her Tax Returns. I guess they don't trust her after all.
Well, Well, It seems that Obama's campaign is starting to falter, now that it is under pressure of being the front runner....
It is surprising that Obama, who is an excellent speaker and speech writer himself, would"borrow" and use these sentences from his friend and supporter , Gov Patrick. First of all they are beside the point and the accusation that is being levied against him. Anyone knows that HRC in her attack is not saying that "We the People" and "Ihave a dream..." are only words. Her point is Obama's promises are empty and devod of value because they are more words than commitment.
Why on earth he would use such a poor counter attack is not only a show of poor judgement on substance, it is a major mistake to do so when "borrowing" or plagiarising from somebody else's speech, albeit a friend and supporter...
Obama did not need to do that, but pressure, overconfidence, or at times arrogance can play tricks on front runners and that is why it is important to let primaries play out completely before deciding to cut the game short and call a winner in February when the race is supposed to end in June....
3 ghostwriters wrote Hillary Clinton's "It Takes A Village."
Barack Obama wrote "The Audacity of Hope."
Learn your facts and get over it people.
Why isnt the media going afterObama.If this would have been anybody else.the media would be all over it.Thanks Fox news is the only one covering this The medianeeds to find out little about him if he going to be president .
Would you all grow up.
Obama is explaining in this article that borrowing from eachothers speeches is not the big deal that the Clinton camp is making it out to be.
Th Clinton camp brought this up and Obama is answering the allegations.
Not whining, not crying, not being unpresidential.
Please read the full article before blogging.
This is such an outrageous news article. Come on CNN (Clinton's News Network) Whats next the crying again. Give us a break and report something news worthy.
I've heard politicians use catchy quotes of FDR, HST, JFK, Ike and Ronald Reagan for many years, sometimes crediting the source and sometimes not. But even without attribution, I never thought anybody was stealing something, since the words were so well known.
White House fever is a strange disease. It's making partisans in both camps appear stricken by constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth. That by the way is a quote from Fred Allen on his opinion of loud mouths in general. Time to stop acting like children. And kiddies, if ou aren't old enough to remember Fred Allen, drop his name into Google.
Didn't Clinton say words are cheap? I think people are just following others blindly.
Gobama '08!!!
Obama has been consistent in his message from the start. It is Hillary who has repeatedly stolen/changed her message, and its even been highlighted on several politcal shows. Experience, change, soft Hillary, back to experience. She's desperate to find something that will work! Everyone is always talking about how the "Republicans will eat Obama for lunch". He's showing you that he won't back down to anyone or anything and you still complain.
I suggest that you who put down Obama's speeches, ideas (or lack of) read his books. The first, from '92, will give you some sense of the depth of the man - that's "Dreams from my Father." The second more recent book explains some ideas, positions on affairs in this country and the world today - that's "The Audacity of Hope." Speeches, sound-bytes, debates get nowhere near a true revelation of any candidate. I'm proud of Hillary, proud that a woman is running in this race. But she is a solid, competent manager. Obama has shown, early in his career, that he is a leader. That is what we need right now. And I hope both candidates continue to serve us all.
CNN Please Print this/Take a look into this:
I believe these message boards are being flooded by thousands of campaign workers accross the nation and something needs to be done about it. I have noticed a large change in the comments posted the recent days compared to weeks ago. The American people on this forum are starting to sound like the same dirty talk used in typical Washington politics. They weren't like this before. I believe your forums are tainted. The number of comments have also exploded. I know there is greater interest, but at this rate of people leaving comments? Come on. I request you do some investigative work to who these people are, and if you do not I will demand for full on investigations.
I am fine with candidates using ideas and thoughts from other people. Sometimes, those are most powerful. However, when I heard Clinton 2 weeks ago say "My opponent likes to say No We Can't, but I say Yes We Can" I was angered. YES WE CAN is an OBAMA platform and not a Clinton platform. YES WE CAN~!!!
Hillary, please find something more meaningful to bicker about. I'm sick of your camp comming up with just anything to smear Mr. Obama's image.
Hillary needs to find her own voice by comming up with something more significant to complain about. Oh, maybe that's it...she doesn't have anything of importance to complain about when it comes to Mr. Obama. For those of you who don't know very much about politcs, this is how the game is played....in order to shread your rival into pieces, you're have to try to make their strength look like a weakness; it is clear that this is another silly tactic from the Clinton camp to do just that to Mr. Obama.
Oh, by the way, the comment above..."find her own voice" is a quote from one of Hillary's speeches. I guess, I should just turn myself in right now!!
Talk about telling the truth. Hillary has a commerciial claiming to have 30 years of experience, so now we are supposed to believe that as first lady she was handling foreign policy and other White House Affairs. Talk about using your own words, how about using your own real experience.
My husband of 36 years is a lawyer, but you won't see me in court and I work for him. Give me a break Hillary and find your voice again.
So what Obama borrowed words from his best friend, Hilliary is not Obama's best friend and most of what she said on the past Saturday night was from Obama's past speeches. She said those words with great pride and I thought I was going to throw up – I couldn't believe she would be that desperate to use as many phrases of Obama as she did. That is just pathetic!
Is this how desperate Clinton supporters are?? OMG!! Big deal. Can't find anything bad about Obama so we will make mountains out of molehills. Get real!!
The fact that Clinton, her staff and supporters are trying to make words a campaign issue shows just how much trouble she is in. When you add only 13% of people would like her husband back (when asked by Gallup what ex-President living or dead they'd like for the next President) it begins to really look like the Clinton-Bush era is ending.
Hillary, it's time to move on.
I would just like to hear someone comment about Senator Clinton's so-called 'solutions'. I watched a speach of hers were she was talking about upstate New York's manufacturing industry possibly going away, and that her 'solution' to that was to say it couldn't go away, that it was vital to the area. My question is, how is that 'observation' a solution. She sites numbers and other buzzwords that are most accurately described as observations. NOT solutions!
Can these two stop bickering and get on with it. This is becoming nonsensical! Snipe, snipe, snipe. Talk about the issues for heaven's sake.
I just pray to God that the SHEEP from the Obama herd will now start to go astray. It's time for the herd to realize the truth and stop following the heard and get behind the candidate with real SOLUTIONS FOR AMERICA!
HILLARY CLINTON 08!
We have started to see that Obama has nothing to offer.
Go Hillary.
Hillary for Presidet
Here' some words lifted from a silly conversation:
"Hey, did you know that Obama uses words from close friends, supporters and speech writers in his speeches?!"
"Really??? That's horrible. We should vote for Hillary now."
"Yeah, I hear she comes up with every word she says in a speech right on the spot with help from no one. That's amazing!"
Hey Hillary group... It's not about the origin of your words, it's how you use them.
Gaby – "Notice he is a man of his words, did not campaign in Florida and Michigan as agreed upon."
Neither did Hillary. Obama did indeed have a commercial that was playing in the state though and Hillary did not.
Empty Rhetoric, Free! Someone else's Rhetoric, Priceless!
CNN- great reporting, you must enjoy the destruction of America over this ridiculous crap.
I think its instructive to again note that Obama's response is adult, calm and puts things in perspective but does not lower himself to the level of his accusers. He plainly has wonderful examples of Hillary Clinton using HIS phrases and speech lines and they are obvious copies. But he says the whole thing is silly and not important.
Clinton's people are desparate to mudsling and it all comes back on them because it looks and IS so petty.
It says more about the disarray and panic in her campaign. It needs better management and this does not look good for her.
MSNBC AGAIN AGAINST Mrs Clinton? how come?
... People should not forget Hillary did not campaign in Florida or Michigan either!!
Hillary continues to show lack of leadership, substance, and direction. She continues to start irrelavent fights to distract and divide. Most importantly, Clinton seems to not have learned any lessons from the 90s, and has once again positioned her rhetoric and policies for butting heads, division, and ultimately getting nothing done. Her healthcare policy, for example, is in reality a "universal" mandate that demonstrates an utter "universal" distrust and "universal" disrespect of American adults to make their own financial decisions. She engages in a pattern of leaving the American people out of the decision-making process. Independents and free-thinking moderates in both parties will not get on board a healthcare reform that includes a mandate, which is why she is losing to McCain in almost every national and state poll out there (see Rasmussen web site). On the other hand, Barack's policies seek to improve the economic environment for the average American without trampling on her/his individual rights. His healthcare plan is a manifestation of that trustful working relationship, because it levels the healthcare playing field and provides fairness and affordability for the common woman/man, but still adheres to an absolute trust in the average American to make his or her own decisions. Barack is engaging in "universal" trust and partnership with the American people and bringing people on board the decision-making process, as opposed to playing a dictator decreeing what is best for everybody in all situations. That is why I, an independent who usually leans Republican, will vote for Obama this cycle. Be he a woman or man, black, white, green, or magenta. I could care less. His strong, thoughtful, and respectful policies stand the best chance of restoring balance to our democracy and economy.....period!
As usual, I just turned to CNN and they're showing Obama's rally in Ohio. They can never wait to give him t.v. time. And he is repeating everything Hillary has been saying all along.
Obamacans you cry about everything REALITY CHECK you win all the small states Hillary wins all the big states (the core of america) .You cry about Michigan,and Florida should not count because you did not campaine there.Quess what crybabies (Idiots) Hillary did not campaine there either and won BOTH. It`s his fault that he did not register his name on the ballot in Michigan,you think a smart man would of made sure to back himself up in a presidenial race ( even a six year old can see that ).Never the less of course Owronga does`nt wamt to count those votes because he lost. An honest good man would except this and move on.........If these votes (2.5 million , record numbers) are not counted it will taint the whole primary process BECAUSE OF SUCH A CLOSE RACE THEY HAVE TO BE COUNTED if not my vote will be going to McCain . I will not put up with crybaby philosiphy .Your so called momentium is just a trend and we all know trends come and go every month . Real CHANGE is not another man in the whiteHouse that`s status quo But a WOMEN in the whitehouse is REAL CHANGE Get it together democrats Hillary`s the canidate for real change.
Vinnie
"SHE DID IT TOO" – Give me a break and grow up
Dear God, I used the phrase "yes we can" just the other day. I didn't know that obama had tried to put a copywrite on it. Hope he don't come knocking on my door 'cause I really don't care for the guy!
Please concentrate on how to save US from recession, and save our children from getting a job in China eventually. The sub-prime crisis is going to ruin US economy for a very long time.
I wish both Demo candidates can really spend time showing us how to save America's dream, not only talking and accusing each other.
Both Obama and Clinton would do the voters and the party a favor by publicly stating they the each promise to fully support the nominee of the voters and party.
I would argue that both candidates discuss the issues but the media insists on focusing on all the lame bickering that inevidbliy goes along with the political process in this country.
And by the way, I've been scanning the headlines regularly and there are definately way more headlines talking about the Clinton machine than Obama machine.
We want the real issues media mongrols, not all this claptrap!
When Obama gets attacked by Clinton he needs to defend himself. You Hillary supporters actually expect Barrack or anyone else for that matter to allow attacks to go unanswered? It's obvious that the Clinton supporters are in desperation and will say or do anything to get back in the race, even if it's unethical. Whoops, did I just plagarize the Obama campaign because they've already pointed that out. Give me a break.
Few of their words are original. They have a staff of speech writers.
Someone thinks Hillary copied a quote from Kerry? I find this so odd. Jon Favreau WAS John Kerry's speech writer. Jon Favreau IS Obama's speech writer. You are complaining she copied a speech writer? Gag...
Then again, I'm probably just another one of those women Obama describes as 'feeling down' because I'm on my 'periodically.'
Patrick for President.
And NOW the true colors of Obama are beginning to show? Too bad his supporters were and still are too stupid to figure this out. Including the media...
Joe Biden lost his President bid back in 1988 for plagiarism. Obama needs to man up and admit what he did.
With the news media's obvious preferential treatment of Mr. Obama, I doubt Mrs. Clinton has a chance at being the democratic nominee. It is a shame, because the only advantage Mr. Obama has shown is in his oratory; what he is willing to promise the American people. Not a word about how the house and congress play a large part in what President can accomplish. That reduces the promises to so much hot air.
For someone who doesn't want the same Washington politics or the same Washington players, he sure does plagiarized from the 'old' politicians in Washington, including Hillary Clinton's economic plan.
I want my president to be a leader, not a follower. I believe it is better to be a first-rate version of yourself instead of a second-rate version of somebody else, and Obama is clearly the latter.
Typical of the Obama camp when they get caught doing something wrong. Point the finger at someone else and say "they did it too." What a cowardly group of people, I bet right now the Obama camp is doing their very best to hunt down Larry Sinclair.
America what we need rightnow is experience,leadership,knowledge and know how to get things done in washington. All Barack Husseine Obama want to do is give the same speech over and over again.u know what?I am get sick and tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. Hillary 08!
"Yes we can" does not belong to Obama...ask Dolores Huerta what she thinks about him saying that it is his phrase.
Si Se Puede anyone?
Why has it always been Clinton attacking Obama?
Obama's only held his ground. Clearly reporters called him and asked him a question.
He's not been the petty one. Obama simply responds truthfully.
Clinton's actions make her seem like she truly only cares about winning this election: she confuses a dignified race with a fight. I don't want a president like that in my white house after 7 years of George W. Bush. This is so 2nd grade of her... I don't blame Obama for replying in a clear and straightforward fashion.
We had family dinner here yesterday and all my kids and their spouses were here total 10 including my wife and I. My wife cooked a good meal and we enjoyed it so much till politics came up. Four years ago all 10 voted democrat. This time 9 our of 10 said they were voting for McCain if Obama was the candidate. Race had nothing to do with it, just who was best qualified to them. Of course one of my daughter in laws talked like she may vote for Obama if he was the candidate. Said she would have to think hard for it. Now this is 9 out of 10 people that will vote republican from a democrat family. I have never saw our country so split. I don't think Obama has a chance to be president.
this is nonsense and a none issue. You find me a word or slogan that has not been said and I will lay a golden egg. hillary is grabbing a any and everything to slow down Obama, and Obama is allowing her to draw him into this petty silliness! i mean grow up hillary. half of her ideas and speeches come from Bill.
Last time i check, "I have a dream" was said by MLK not deval Patrick and I have heard that line evoke by numerous people, without such fan fare. hillary's accusation that he is all talk is crazy and lacks base, because if it did, she would be whipping him, instead of the other way around.
let's talk about her 35 years of service and leadership expereience she was a senator for 6 years... 8 years of watching Bill run the country doesn't count and another 8 years of watching him be governor doesn't count...so where is all this expereince. Seems like she plagerizing bill's experience as her own!
Next they'll be accusing each other of who wears more make-up
There goes phony Hillary again. Is she stupid or senile? The dumbest of people don't accuse others of their own blatant sins. Petty and silly, Hillary acts like a loser. Hopefully she will be.....the sooner, the better.
Don't try swiftboating us with this silliness...
We remember Kerry.
Obama 08
He is an "Obamanation" being pused by the liberal media because they want a colored President they can manage
This is not news – that Clinton copied! She doesn't have a line that is original!
As for issues, she has been borrowing Barack's and embellishing from day one.
I DISTINCTLY remember her almost totally plagiarizing his healthcare policy! It is SO irritating. I would hate to deal with such a competitor. This kind is clinging, like a leech. She sucks the blood out of one or tries to.
Even now, every speech of his is followed by something very similar from her, every slogan, everything. It's maddening.
However, it's also so transparent! The whole world can see how ridiculous this is, I wouldn't dignify her campaign with responses or any defensive stance. They are simply trying to turn the tables, as with the race issue, and so many others.
B.t.W. no mistake in MSNBC, but did anyone of you read MSNBC with Obama admiting the borroing? Did CNN by any chance read the article? or maybe they did notlisten to the very same Mr Obama....
Antoher one: Yes, we can is not from Mr Obama is from Venezuelan president Mr Hugo Chavez (see the consecuences Venezuela is paying for that use), and you arefired is...TRUMP!!!
I think CNN is pro-Obama. For instance, the mailer he used in Utah and Nevada was ignored by almost all news media including CNN. When Hillary Clinton says something it is a "negative" ad. When Obama does the same thing it is called "jabs". "Fired up" and "ready to go" were not uttered by Obama for the first time. McCain said it last week. The "just words" speech is huge suspect in my opinion because it was delivered by Obama as though it was his own to make an important point. He could have said as my friend D. Patrick stressed in his 06 campaign speech...something like that. It is also beside the point whether D. Patrick gives Obama the right to use his material, the point being people actually thought Obama was different and not a typical politician with original, sound and inspirational ideas. I am very disappointed.
This is stupid. The Clintons are attempting to use a non-issue to put a cloud in the minds of people when it comes to Obama's character. Making this about character is a personal attack. And the most absurd thing... in using the language of Kerry Healey (a Republican), Hillary Clinton attacked Obama as lacking substance (pretty speech vs "real" action). He responded with a line that he may very well have helped formulate in conjunction with Deval Patrick (who defeated Healey).
So, isn't this a case where Clinton took (stole/plagiarized/etc) an attack line from a Republican and Obama responded with something that he likely helped come up with to counter that same stale attack?
Here is an idea people, stop listening to the media, friends, family, actually do some research, and learn how to think for yourself... this is the reason why it does not matter who is in office next... the damage has been done and it is going to take a lot more then one president to right the ship.
The Dem campaign is is crash and burn mode. They will squander another gimme. They never learn. John McCain will be the next prez .
Wow! How much lower can we go? Who cares who uses what rhetoric. Guess it shows just how low the Clinton's will go to get what they want.
Where has politics in the U.S. gone?
Who really cares? At least he was not borrowing lines from W's speaches....
No politicians write their own speeches. (That's why they have the position of "speechwriter"!)
Do you think W. ever wrote one of his own? (Even the thought of it makes me chuckle...)
Fools for Hillary-she doesn't even write her own books, and Bubba writes her speeches.
Yeah but even his "Yes we can" line came from a 10 year old Wesley Snipes movie. My friend happened to be watching it last week and there was Snipes yelling to people "Yes we Can". Can't this guy even come up with his own "catch phrase"? If he can't even do something simple like that then how do you supporters expect him to run your country. He has no experience. Go Hillary
I was a Hilliary supporter until she allowed Bill to degrade Obama prior to the South Carolinia primary. Bill's rhetoric was disrespectful to the African American community by implying that he knew exactly how they think. Citing Obama's campaign was a 'fairytale' adventure and full of criminal elements was a huge and unfortunate mistake for the Clinton campaign. Now anyone who didn't know the real Clintons have a good idea of what they currently represent. Hilliary's message had a center approach, now that she is competing with Obama it has a more conservative tone, a tone that keeps this country divided. The time is right for electing someone who wants progress for human beings regardless of race creed or culture.
Yeah but even his "Yes we can" line came from a 10 year old Wesley Snipes movie. My friend happened to be watching it last week and there was Snipes yelling to people "Yes we Can". Can't this guy even come up with his own "catch phrase"? If he can't even do something simple like that then how do you supporters expect him to run your country. He has no experience. Go Hillary
So should Obama be siting sources at the end of every speech?
Can we expect Clinton to do the same?
Okay,
So when Barack cited his estimates for troop withdrawal in South Carolina, and Hillary said she wasn't sure how many units and in what time frame she would withdraw, then in California she cited Barack's exact statements from South Carolina, that wasn't plagiarism. gotcha!
With respect to this issue, there aren't but so many ways to quote statesmen and founding fathers in this particular context. Those particular words, when used, will be precisely the same. Obviously, Deval Patrick was consulted here, which would explain why he takes no issue with the similarity and scope of what has been said.
The most perplexing and germane thing to this whole line of criticism placing and diminished value on one's words is what really concerns me. I am curious if Mrs. Clinton really means to tell the American people that what people say doesn't matter? Obviously Mr. Obama has healthy doses of substance to his words; his plans in each category of his platform have been reduced to writing and published via his website, just as her's have. So that argument is tacitly baseless from the start.
And if what people say means nothing, then why is she speaking so much?
Obama should continue to play it smart, give Edwards the VP slot
for his endorment.
Arland/Baltimore, Md.
Obama is for change, a lousy change. When I have to choose between a lousy change and the proven experience, I would go for the experience. I believe in change but the change has to be for better, not for worse and Obama's idea of change is so lousy that I am almost getting sick of hearing the word CHANGE.
Seriously, and this is why I'd never vote for a slick snake like Clinton, I'm sick of these knee jerk reaction attacks from the Clinton campaign and supporters.
First they throw out these accusations with words that are meant to invoke instant tag line emotional responses from voters without acknowledging the whole concept. Like "Obama wants to disenfranchise the voters in Florida" ... somehow this is his fault that they broke the rules and he wasn't allowed to campaign there? It's a cheap trick to use language like "plagiarism" and "disenfranchised voters" to get these knee jerk reactions from voters that don't pay close enough attention to politics to know that they are petty and hollow accusations from that camp.
Way to play dirty pool Hillary. I have news for you, the American people are not as dumb as you think. That's why Obama is beating you now, every time you do something like this, most of us see it for what it is. I was on the fence between Obama and Hillary for the longest time, but the minute Hillary and Bill started acting like petty children, the decision wasn't hard after that. They continue to make me realize I made the right choice every time they spew a petty line of attack or act like a spoiled child attacking their own party for the sake of their own political power moves. The Clinton's are clearly not interested in what's best for the Democratic party or America, they are interested in what can get them another 8 years in the White House.
Hillary Clinton is perceived to be a looser after Barack racked up eight state win. As a result, she started negative attack. The problem with this tactics is not new and it has failed time after time.
The desire is to elect someone from the Democratic party. Therefore, party internal fighting over petty, insignificant matters turn people off.
If Hillary really wants to replace Bush with someone from the Democratic party. Running a fair and balance campaign is essential.
As an independent voter in Texas, I will cast my vote to Barack simply based on my dislike of dirty tactics.
I tried sending an E-Mail to my Illinois Senators during the attempt to get a marriage amendment. The messages I received back were almost word for word exactly the same thing. You could tell that the Democratic party had sent the senators involved the response they wanted them to respond with. So this type of thing happens all the time. It is just the repitition of the party-line marching orders.
OK, even though I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton, I will give Obama the benefit of the doubt since the media does have a way of distorting and dramatizing things. With that said, I will also say Obama "GROW UP!" I certainly hope that this finger pointing mentality and the shrugging off of personal accountability is not a preview to your foreign policy, because we already had 7 years of that mentality and guess what it didn't work. Tit for tat politics or foreign policy isn't generally that effective. So fess up, be mature and move on.
Cyrille
If you are going to quote somebody, please spell their name correctly or look it up.
Gandhi is the correct spelling.
Absolutely no way are either of these people getting my vote. I am a long time Democrat turned, just this year, Republican.
McCain '08
This is just sad.
I'm starting to understand all the "Kool Aid" references to Obama supporters – no matter how you twist it, you cannot say he has the experience and success that Hillary has had. And experience will be necessary to dig us out of this hole Bush has put us in.
And to those of you who don't know the difference between Bush and Clinton – get a CLUE! Bush and Clinton are NOT the same and never have been. And as I recall when Bill Clinton left office we did not have a monsterous deficit, a rapidly shrinking pool of allies and a terrible reputation for our International relations! You can thank Bush for those lovely items that the next President will have to deal with. You want to blame Hillary for not being able to push though some of her healthcare changes? Since when can the First Lady just "DECIDE" to push through a bill? There are a lot of other fingers in the pot every time there is a vote so get a clue before you throw that around.
Recess is over. Let's get back to the election. Both of you.
THIS IS REDICULOUS! WHEN I WAS YOUNG I WAS A DEMOCRAT NOW MY VEIWS ARE MORE IN LINE WITH REPUBLICANS FOR THIS VERY REASON. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR GOVERNMENT TO PARENT THIER EVERY MOVE, AND ARE LOOKING FOR A SOCIAL HANDOUT INSTEAD OF TAKING PERSON RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM SELVES AND ACTIONS. THEY TEND TO ALWAYS LIVE IN THE GREY OR SAFE ZONE INSTEAD OF LOOKING DOWN THE GUN BARREL ON TOUGH ISSUES. SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO SUFFER OR DIE THATS LIFE. tAKE THE MORGTGAGE CRISIS, IM SORRY THOSE 480,000 PEOPLE SHOULD JUST EAT IT BECUASE THE PUBLIC SHOULDN'T FOOT THE BILL FOR YOU BAD CHOICES.SOME THINGS YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH AND GET OVER. DONT BUY THINGS YOU DONT HAVE THE CASH TO PAY FOR.THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FOR CHILDREN OR LIKE MINDED ADULTS WITH A CHILDLIKE COMPLEX. BOTTOM LINE...GROW UP
Felipe....
Speaches is spelled SPEECHES!
You are allowed to take from my post if you would like. I give permission!
DefiantRican, Not sure what you meant by this comment, but I want you to help me understand what you meant. I'm not racist, but just want to understand.
All I can say is Hillary in 08. Barack is a cry baby and a whiner. He will lose ultimately. Once his "people" forget how to vote.
Go Hillary in 08
I just want to thank Hillary and Bill for all they are saying and doing to help get Obama into the White House. Sincerely, An Obama Supporter
I have been saying all along that Obama is nothing but hot air, and this is a great example.
If he get the Democratic nomination over Hillary I will vote for John McCain. I WILL NEVER VOTE for false hope and the con artist tendencies of Obama!
Hillary 2008 – A candidate with a real brain, not just speech writers!
The majority of the Obama supporters seem to forget that Senator Clinton did not make these allegations first, another news source, ABC broke the story, and CNN as well as others followed it up. Do your research/reading if you intend to bash another candidate (which I don't support).
This is another pathetic attempt at discrediting Obama. I just don't understand why the Clinton supporters don't see her for the hypocrite she is. Case in point...do you really think she's worried about the "pour voters" in Florida and Michigan? Think again! She will do whatever it takes to win. If the democratic party agreed to split the delegates evenly, she would change her tune. The people in Ohio need to know how she really feels about outsourcing. they should google Tata Consultancy. Instead of "ready on day one", her campaign slogan should be "what's in it for me?"
This is not a big deal.... he used lines with permission from the writer, Patrick.
Let's not make a mountain out of a mole-hill.
NEXT topic please.
Look ,,
If you have someone out their destorting your record you bet he has to answer that, just as long as he doesn't dwell on it. Barrack did that, and that was all that needed to be said. Hillary is trying to drag him into the mud with her because she has dished out all of her cards. If any of you know how to play spades she has thrown all her trumph cards out on the table. All she is doing know is throwing out 4 of clubs 6 of dimonds hoping that he will engage in a mud fest.. The jack of spades was played when she played the Gender card crying about everyone is picking on me because i'm a women.. The Qween of spades was played when she had to fire one of her campaign managers for using the Race Card, Her King of spades came when after she lost Iowa when she almost had a melt down on national tv, the ACE of spades came with the fear card basically saying vote for me or the boggie man is gonna get you, using the Dick Chaney play book, and she ran it step by step..She only has the Jocker left, and some say he is out there waggin his finger. America we need a change!!!!!
KENNY
If Barrack never said anything you same people would be saying he is too SOFT, and wouldn't be able to handle the republicans or any other country. So with some of you he will never win your vote However, there are many, many other Americans that would like to know that he will be a strong man.
George,
That is plagiarism. . . .you are stealing from a Hillary speech. . . .where was the attribution.
I just watched the videos on youtube, Obama didn't just make it sound like somebody else, he copied word for word and pause for pause. And the other guy actually was a better speaker putting them side by side.
Clinton's obviously desperate. If this is all they can come up with against Obama, then maybe its time to think about backing out graciously
Obama should give Bob the Builder credit for "Yes, we can!"
Miss June-Hillary had a great deal of experience as a lawyer, as an advocate for children's right-a group MOST politicians even recognize because they lack the power to vote-women's and the poor's rights. It is there if you choose to acknowledge it.
At the very least, people should be reading the information on the websites of the candidates. If you aren't informed
Considering that all of the rest of the candidates have been stealing Dr. Ron Paul's lines for years, this isn't surprising if true.
It's also a "who cares?" non-story, and shows how desperate the Clinton camp truly is.
It is amazing that Obama compares his words to those of MLK and others. What an ego he has.
Why does the media not call him out for such claims.
He calls his election bid a movement – the Civil Rights Movement was and still is a movement. His election bid is NOT a movement.
As an european watching the election hype I am a bit confused by the whole process.I am no fan of hilary but I fail to understand the "magic" of Obama.No doubt he is a good speaker but he has not had one single achievement in political life!
HE calls himself(!!!!) visionary and that is a bit like someone asking for people"s vote saying he"s brilliant! You do things brilliantly and then people should say you are brilliant.In the same way you cannot claim to be a visionary when you have no vision at all about the future of USA and have very similar proposals as clinton! Pray tell me what Mr Obama"s visons are?!! He reminds me of the britney,lohan celebrity culture where anyone who speaks well(now we know even the words were borrowed) and presents himself well can be your next president.The media loves to jump on the bandwagon just to show it can create celebrities out of nothing!If so how about making Scarlett Johansson the next president atleast we europeans will keep the her picture in our offices!
shes back to the same old games as in early january when she tried to shy away his support from white voters when she tried to bring his race to the fore-front.
when she gets backed into a corner, desperate begats petty for Mrs. Clinton and her camp.
This is not the way to win in November, Republicans will wipe the floor with her if she tries to nit-pick their campaigns.
she's always talking about how she can fight back against the republicans...i sure hope this B.S. isn't what she's referring to.
slow news day......tomorrow will be better!
Iv'e told you guys before -Hillary is a chameleon. As soon as she hit
Texas she adopted Obama's style and even started using the word
"folks" which Obama has always used!! Right now she's VERY
DESPERATE. This is just the beginning. HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS.
As an Obama supporter, I wish he wouldn't even respond to such frivolous and distracting claims... is this what the Clinton campaign has been reduced to? How petty.
kevin from alaska.
the phrase "audacity of hope" is not Obama's. And he has admitted this in speeches and conversations. He, essentially, lifted it - but he credited the person (whose name escapes me now).
learn your facts, indeed!
Hillary's campaign is in disseray. If she cannot manage a campaign, how can she manage the country.?
To all the die-hard Hillary fans, have you seen The Hillary Movie? This woman is full of tricks– this is one of them to try to dis-credit Obama. Bill has been making plenty of money "making speeches" since he left the white house.
To all my fellow Obama supporters; just "consider the source" and it becomes clear why Hilliary is trying to make this a big issue. She is "scared" .
OBAMA 08
I think those who doesn't see true Billary is either so naive or may something lack in their upstairs. I've been a political junkie ever since I realized that I made a big mistake in 2000 election. Yes! I watch more than two hours of C-SPAN everyday and I've watched almost every debates during this primary so far. Yeh! I was really tired of Bill's lies about that "I didn't inhale" or " I did not have sexual relationship with that women". So I voted for Bush because I thought that he was an honest man. But after 7 years of watching his arrogance, I really regret that I voted for him 8 years ago. I also regret that I wasn't actively involved in politics to promote not to reelect Bush in 2004 election. Now, I'm not that naive in politics and I can tell when somebody lies or avoiding to answer the facts. Initially, I thought Hillary is different. So I tried to separate her from Bill. She seemed to be very smart and caring person. Yeh! That's what I thought before I really known her better. She seem to be really honest and nice person. But then I discovered some other things about her and reevaluated her. I now know that what's really behind all those pretty face covered with smile.
To make my point: 1) think about her voting on Iraq war and what she says about it now. 2) think about her voting "Yes" on energy bill and what she said about during the debates ("I vote for it but I was hoping it didn't go through"). 3)think about her voting for the bankruptcy reform bill and now what she says about it? Does she really care about low income family who loses their home and suffers financial burden from hefty credit card charges? If she really does care, then she shouldn't voted for these bills. So I know all that promises she makes for low income people are empty promises.
On the other hand, I think Barack Obama is honest man at least. Who care about words? What we really care about is that what's behind those pretty words. I like his honesty, vision and hope. I think he is truly gifted with wisdom. Just being smart and having some dirty political experiences are not enough to be a good leader. Wisdom! That's it! I think Barack Obama has WISDOM.
This election is becoming uglier and more disappointing ...
I really hope that Obama is a true leader. This country desperately needs one. However, I have to say that Obama, in his personal life, has a good dream, and in politics, is just another politician. I have not been following McCain because I don't like Bush and his team - a bunch of Republicans who have dragged this country into mud. Maybe McCain is worth considering.
Fired Up and ready to go – ok they both stole that one, neither one of them is the original on that phrase, and the "can we do it, Yes we can" is a complete bootleg of "Bob The Builder" so Nickelodeon is really the only one who can claim that phrase so for him to defend a slogan he stole from a cartoon is pathetic. But to compare catch phrases to almost an entire speech is an absurdity. I truly wish they would get past slogans and speeches and actually give us a substantive comparison on what they will do as leader of this country, John McCaine is looking like the "Grown Up" candidate.
Best post yet ... Good question.
This is pretty petty on both candidates part…I just wonder if too much damage has not already been done.
Clinton supporters, if Obama wins the nomination will you choose to vote for McCain? If not, how can you support someone that you villify so readily?
Obama supporters, what if Hillary comes back to win, whether thru the popular vote or due to superdelegates support? Will you find it possible to campaign as vigorously for her as you have for Obama?
If you can't answer yes to these questions, then I think Mccain is a shoe in and you can all blame yourselves for that
You can't copyright these spoken words.
Anybody has the right to say them.
All the talking points are for gullible people that don't know how to think for themselves.
Same ol same ol. Save it for the Republicans.
Curb the bitterness, unless you want McCain go win.
how will Obama deal with problems ( if president) without Hillary ideas around? We will hear all the time : yes we can, and other slogans, but what will be done really?
The new generation is troubling with all those shootings in Universities, all the drugs etc. How is Barack planning to deal with this? Does he have any idea? How is he thinking to deal with media -where everything is exposed, talked about but the real values? Like value of life, tolerance, education, morals, self control, global warming, respect to parents, school, older ones, nutrition and many many others?
Hillary 08!
Donovan -
I'm sure CNN is quaking at the thought of your "demands".
As for Clinton and Obama – c'mon guys, you're starting to sound like Republicans here. Soon you'll be demanding apologies for everything!
I guess Obama and Paris Hilton have one thing in common.....claiming they invented a common phrase...
Now...whats the word for this personality.....hmmm....
This latest smear campaign launched by Clinton is just further evidence that this unholy duo of Hilary and Bill needs to be removed from our political process once and for all. How desperate and pathetic is this woman.
Who cares?!?
Seriously.......
Is this really the biggest problem facing the country???
no? Then lets move on....
In the typical display of bias towards Obama – which CNN is becoming more and more guilty of – the headline reads: "Clinton copies too." There is a reluctance to attach Obama's name to anything negative on CNN. The headline as it reads attaches Clinton's good name to plagiarism while there is no headline doing the same for Obama. Let's not forget that whether or not Clinton "did it too," it was Obama's plagiarism that made news first. Where is the headline on CNN? Nowhere to be found. Precious.
Oh poor Obama and his cult disciples are facing the heat for once.Sometimes you can't hide behing the coat tails of your media buddies and the truth gets through.HE CLEARLY LACKS EXPERIENCE,HE IS THE OLD POLITICS AS USUAL BUT SAY IT WITH A SMILE CANDIDATE.HONESTLY OUTRAGEOUS PLAGARISM.
"BLUE COLLAR WORKERS FOR HILLARY"??????
WOW!!!! I guess her support of NAFTA has really helped workers!!!!
Or doesn't the blue collar workers know about this!!!
That's why he doesn't want to debate. It's hard to improve plagiarism.
After reading these comments, I weep for America. Both camps are off their rockers...
are we really resorting to petty issues of "he said" "she said"? seriously, this is pathetic. this is a miniscule issue in comparison to everything else going on in this country right now. i'm glad obama realizes how ridiculous this is.
OBAMA '08!
UPDATE: Obama Robbed in NY??..... what happened in NY?... why are they reporting 116 ( Obama) to 118 ( Clinton) and a recount under way... far more NEWS worthy than the Clinton camp Grasping at straws for headlines!!!!!!!!!!
Check the Update: Obama is now playing it down as a not a big deal.
This is called BAIT N' SWITCH.
Experiences has no value when you do not have good judgment. That only blind people's eyes. When people's eyes are blind, they make wrong judgment and choose the wrong president.!!
Your employer wouldn't hire you if you walked in with someone else's resume. Why should we vote for a President who's entire support is based on what others said and did?
HILLARY STOP DIVIDING AMERICA
You can get an F for plagiarism in college. This is serious Obama. You need to stop using other people speeches.
OK PEOPLE: PUT THE TOYS AWAY AND STICK WITH THE ISSUES, ISSUES, ISSUES. THANK YOU!!
Karen-
Bill is NOT the Clinton that's running for president....
What a pathetic tactic by Clinton's. First they make allegations on Obama for copying the words and then when Obama responds to her, its all Obama's fault. He is the one who is childish. Clintons supporter please do some research and find out who start the fire first. Blame Clintons camp not Obama. She is being doing these things from start. Before any primary or caucus she will pick up the small mistakes from Obama and try to do the damage. She says words dont count then why are you fighting about who's words? She came with that Obama's weakest point is that he is not organized. He was very truthful in answering that. She made a point out of it. Now she says those red states and caucases dont count at all. Then why is she happy about winning New Mexico and Nevada. See Nevada people what she thinks about you. You guys dont count at all.
Overall she is the most polarizing figure and everyone can see it.
For all her small childish allegations there is only one answer
SO WHAT?????????
My this is some discussion! Frankly, whoever gets elected - I have a long laundry list of "changes" I want her/him to implement from day one. To begin with - I want universal health care (good, quality, affordable care for all, with no exceptions). Second, I want the U.S. out of Iraq with intelligence, honor, and as much speed as possible. Three, I want billions of dollars spent in infrastructure improvements/updates. Fourth, I want a real 21st century green energy policy. Fifth, I want a true global effort to end poverty and terrorism. Sixth, I want public policy that recognizes we need to develop a job base where everyone isn't expected to be a doctor, lawyer, politician, lobbyist, or investor to own a home and send their children to college. Seventh, I want a "public" school system that actually works. Eighth, I want a foreign policy that protects us from our enemies, helps our friends, and has enough common sense to know the difference. Ninth, I want our export policy NOT to include arming the world with weapons (which are then purchased by our enemies and pointed in our direction). Tenth, I want some common courtesy extended to people who have opposing political views. Hey - get the message folks.
hkitty wrote:
"The problem is not that one candidate is co-opting the words of another. It is that Obama is presenting his words as the center-piece of his election, rather than policy. As a result, his words have to be his own. As he has said, words matter. Well, they matter less when they are not your own and you have nothing of substance to back it up. Besides, we could also give credit to Bob the Builder for "yes we can" as well as Cesar Chavez. So ," yes we can" does not belong to Obama, he coopted from others and it is being co-opted from him. The problem is then there is nothing left."
Obama has never said his words are the centerpiece of his campaign. The media said so, not Obama. It is the media who branded Obama as te great speaker (when the truth is that Hillary is just as good a speaker). And by branding him the great speaker and orator. The centerpiece of Obama's campaign are his policies and plans, not his words.
Bill and Hillary Clintons will go as the DIRTIEST POLITICIANS of all time. Once again, they have resolved to DIRTY and NEGATIVE campaigning having realized there was no way both of them could beat this articulate, fresh and amazing politician called Obama.
They will end up stealing the nomination, but will be put to shame in the general election.
THIS COUPLE IS BAD FOR OUR DEMOCRACY !
Who has there own words,they all have writers?????? What is the big deal and if you have friends so what. Clinton camp are you serious????
Is that that the kind of President you want dirty
Obama 08/12
Enough of this crap!
If I have to keep reading about the kindergarteners, Obama and Clinton, with more childish antics, I just WON'T VOTE!
Jeez!
Clinton's blatantly borrowed everything from "Change" to "Yes she will"!
If Patrick doesn't think it's a concern that his friend borrowed some words, I don't think the Clintonites should make such a big deal of a non-issue!
First Hillary says that words don't matter. In response Obama uses the most famous phrases in U.S. history which many people use including Gov. Patrick. Now Hillary is critisizing Obama for using famous words of past U.S. Leaders. So, which is it Hillary? Do words matter or not?
I find it hard to believe this is getting so much attention.
One Democrat Attacking another Democrat for using famous phrases of past Democratic leaders. I can't wait for this Primary to be over.
O BITER IS NOT ORIGINAL AND HILLARY DOESNT CLAIM TO BE THE MESSIAH. AND I'VE HEARD ALOT OF POLITICIANS IN MY 35 YEARS SAY THE SAME CRAP HE DOES
I agree with Obama that this is not a big deal. Friends share words all the time. My question is why are the Clintons making such an uproar if "words "are empty. I thnk anything to be negative is their point .
Hillary is so desperate and clutching at straws.
This is silly on both parts. Although if Clinton says words don't matter, then why should she care? I also find it humorous that in her last few stump speeches she has unsuccessfully tried to get her crowd to chant "Yes We Will"....hmmmm sound familiar ? If she accuses him of copying , then why is she copying him?
Plagiarism ended Joe Biden's 1992 campaign. Its a serious thing that would have gotten Obama expelled from college. Has Obama plagiarized before? If so, when?
If this is the only charge that Billary can claim, what a desperate move. This charge is so petty and shows what this ganster of a woman will resort to. She is scared to death because she literally felt the sense of entitlement and now is trying to save face. She is a loser, the country knows it and so does she. If per chance that suspected backroom deal is orchestrated as so many of us suspect, I declare....I will vote for McCain. Never will I vote for a Clinton or a Bush. really is there any difference. Change is on its way and she knows it better than anyone else. As I have commented before, Billary will do ANYTHING to get into the WhiteHouse including the breaking of your kneecap. She is desperado at this point. I pray that Barack wins by landslide so that this witch will hang up her shoes and go back where she belongs in Arkansas. What a disgrace to the Democratic party. When you are an imposter you can not run your racket over extended periods of time. The real evil spirit is rearing its ugly head again. That last debate was not a debate at all. Polite ans anything. Watch how nasty and attacking she will be on Thursday's debate..just watch. She will lie, lie, lie. Go Barack. maintain your dignity and integrity which your oppent has never known. Yes, we can!!!!! Yes we can!!!!! Yes we can!!!!!.
I am so tired of people saying that Clinton supporters are not informed.
I am very imformed and I support Hillary. Those who are so imformed about Hillary that hate her have yet to give any real reason why I should not. Everyone talks about these things Hillary and her campaign have done, but I find no evidence.
So when someone can give me facts, I will become more informed. FYI, going to web-site and claiming its factual is stupid. I can create a web-site and claim its fact, so don't send me to one that has no basis in fact.
If Hillary did not have the last name Clinton, you guys would have little to talk about.
Let's get back to issues that the voters really are interested in. For example, why Hillary Clinton will not release her tax returns. Why does she refuse to release them? Is there something in there she does not want the voters to know about. If there is nothing to hide, why not release them. Far more important than what is said, is what is done. Witholding pertinent information from the American people is problematic. The people deserve to know how the Clintons earn their money. Transparency plese.
I do think the Media brought this up first, not Clinton.
So now Obama is reduced to, "Hillary did it, too.". Is that the best this mighty orator, who's campain seems to largely be about his campaign, can muster? Wow! Impressive!
Sounds to me like someone was listening closely and trying to pick out something they could go with and this is so pathetic. Is this the best your campaign people can do Mrs.Clinton? Sounds like same ole Clinton politics to me.
If this is all you can get, that he copied someones words. Well, I say things like that all the time, I didn't know I was stealing words.
In fact when I first heard it, I thought about Dr. King, ~I have a dream~ not the governor.
Sounds like Hillary's campaign is struggling and looking for anything and Obama's campaign is replying...
I would never vote for Hillary because of the Clinton dirty politics. I am a white female in the middle income range from TEXAS.
Anyone for her should remember everything she and her husband have done in their policital lives. Lets remember her having to bring back items from the White House that were taken when they left, and Hillary supporters want her back in OUR White House, I don't think so.
Texans for OBAMA 08
What should concern people is that a nominee for President is borrowing a line from Bob the Builder.
Is this plagiarism? Well, I guess that depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
He did it...no she did it!! I really want to vote for some change in government, but if these two keep acting like they are 5 fighting over who knocked over a vase..... I will place my vote somewhere else
what words Obama uses matter.. Sure, why not? because that is what his campaign is based on.... big speeches!!!
Get real Obama-whiners....
A campaign is a war of sorts and "The Art of War," dictates that one does not let a tiny ember smolder into a blazing inferno and burn you in the process. Senator Obama is wise to respond to the slightest Clinton attack before it takes on a life of it's on. It may seem childish to some , however, the bottom line is this: Defend your reputation with your life; it's all you really have. Go Obama.
Can someone please explain to me what experience Hillary has? My husband has been in advertising for 20 years, can I put that I have advertising experience on my resume? Bill was president, her time in the White house was as a "wife". And she created enemies and her health care plan was a disaster. I only see that she has a few more years senatorial experience over Obama.
I also think Bill will always be a distraction and can't see her really leading this coutnry and working with middle eastern leaders on her own.
Obama is fresh and inspiring, those petty comments about his name or his religion show how desperate Clintonites have become.
I can't wait for Obama to go to Texas and remind the Texans and the rest of the country what Ross Porot said in the 1992 debates when Bill Clinton was backing NAFTA. It was something like this "That swoshing sound you hear will be all of those manufacturing jobs being suck across the border to Mexico" My husband's sister lived in Texas after that and the economy sunk and lot's of jobs were lost and the housing market bottomed out. Ohio is suffering from it still today. How can they possibly support someone that was so for the exact thing that hurt them so badly?
We also lost the House and Senate in 1994 because the Democrats were so sick of the Clintons (Bill-NAFTA, and Hillary-health care). The unions refused to get out the vote, and most Americans refused to go to the election poll, because these two had turn their back to us.
Hillary is already showing America that she is turning her back to all of the supporters in the states that she didn't win. Just wait till she is in the White House, and 3/4 of the American people will no longer matter to her.
is it plagarism to say, "why can't we all just get along?"......
oh really the Clinton campaign is grasping at straws and this latest dust-up is just silly.
Has anyone seen a list of the lines that Hillary has borrowed from both Obama and Edwards?
Additionally, Obama's friend Patrick, suggested he use the lines!
Just more tempest in a teapot.
I can not believe that I ever considered voting for Hillary.
We need to know the truth about Obama. After all, he has not been subjected to the srutiny that Hillary has over her career. It is best to find out about him now before it is too late. Sometimes the truth hurts!
Dear Clinton campaign members, GROW UP! I'm sure if Hillary or Bill's speeches were looked at, a little borrowing of words took place as well. Either Hillary has nothing left to help her losing position or simply likes slinging any dirt no matter how petty. Both candidates will rely on their advisors if elected anyhow to help in decision making. IN THE END THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE...MAY IT BE SENATOR OBAMA! Yeah I borrowed that line.
I don't care who borrowed phrases. I just wish we had a candidate who cared about what real Americans need. We need to save our homes, jobs, affordable health care and a good education for our children.
Hahaha. Howard Wolfson is a joke. Chris Matthews pointed out to Wolfson on Hardball for stealing Obama's line, "Kick the tires." Wolfson used the line and said didn't even know that it was Obama's line. Hillary uses "Yes we can" all the time.
Just search "Howard Wolfson Steals Barack Obama Line" on Youtube.
and YES WE CAN isn't Obama's line ... he stole it from the little engine that could
!!!
Obama leads an inspirational, positive, optimistic campaign.
Hillary leads a negative, sarcastic, cynical campaign.
Which attributes would you rather be lead by??????
Why I despise the Clintons? Oh 'give me a break' do I really have to explain it at this point? The fact remains Hillary cannot win the general election. Only about half the democrats will support her since she ran such a lying, cheating, nasty campaign against Obama. The rest will hold their noses and vote for McCain. Obama brings in Republicans, like myself, and independents as well. So 1/2 the dems vs. the other half, some Republicans, and some independents. It realy is that simply but go ahead and live in denial and put Hillary in there and watch teh next Republican get elected. Wait, depising the Clintons is not a strong enough word...hate comes to mind. The Clintons suck. (or in Bill's case the opposite is true).
All I have to say is that the debate on Thursday is going to be a hot, ghetto mess. Why? Because Hillary is a hot ghetto mess. So petty and uncalled for.
Notice how Hillary copies off of Barack–but yet he hasn't used a single ideology from her. Why? Because she hasn't said anything worth quoting.
Senator Obama didn't say " Senator Clinton copied too" CNN is at it again manipulating and twisting his words to try and make him sound childish. CNN should just come out and endorse Senator Clinton, but that isn't as effective, is it. It works much better and you get more credibility when you pose as a legitimate news organization.
OBAMA NEVER SAID " CLINTON COPIED TOO" Senator Obama said he collaborated with is supporter and friend on this. Senator Obama then said Senator Clinton stole his campaign lines, he never used the childish line " copied too"
There needs to be an investigation with the FCC on CNN. This is getting too bizzare, with twisting words.
To all of you saying that "Obama complains about Hillary using his rhetoric?..."
I think your logic circuits are switched to the off position. He was not the one to bring it up, he says clearly about her chameleon-like use of his themes "I don't think its a big deal..."
The clear and obvious reason he is bringing it up in response is because it highlights the HYPOCRISY of Clinton's arguments. Much the same way her Reagan praise highlighted that hypocrisy.
Btw, both Deval and Obama share and discuss their similar vision and movement, and freely exchange ideas, as Deval himself pointed out (and added that he had riffed on themes from Obama also).
I think Deval did a better job on the delivery of the speech.
I think Obama and his camp are trying to pull a sneaky on the America people!
Good thing youtube is here you no by the people for the people!!
Wow, there really are *no* depths to which the Clinton camp isn't prepared to sink. This is disgraceful–absolutely a sign of their desperation. HRC will do *anything* to claw her way to victory, even if she has to pull down one of the best candidates we've seen in decades in the process. Shame on them. Every time I see Billary play these dirty tricks, I just send more money to the Obama camp.
I am finally g lad that the cult is out of the bag. This cult movemnt and momentum is exaclty what makes me not want any part of the Obama clan. HRC has the power, knowledge and experience to become or next commander in cheif. Preachers are meant for the church not for politics. I want a leader and an individual who can not only have dignity with her peers but with other nations as HRC has already done as First Lady.
Take a good look at what has just been exposed? We need change thats true, and HRC is Change, being a first woman in office will prove that initself. I was an advate CNN watcher but I am so turned off by its biased news that I look else where for facts.
Do they get paid royalties for backing Obama? Hmmmm makes you wonder, why they dont give eqaul air time for the First Lady.
Hillary Rodham Clinton "O8"
SB, there's a story behind "fired up" that far precedes the Iowa caucuses... The notion that Barack Obama somehow stole "fired up" from the dull, uninspiring, shrewish Clinton is risible and the argument tenuous at best. Face it: your candidate already lost... Even WITH Florida and Michigan, she'd still be behind by about a dozen delegates, and unless she won Texas and Ohio by overwhelming margins, she would still come up short.
Obama '08
If Obama is acting like this when Hillary attacks him, what is he going to do when the Republicans attack him? Cry like a baby? Oh wait he'll steal something from someone else and use as his own, and his Obamazombies will accept it
Hey, Hillary, if words don't matter, why don't you do us all a favor and stop talking. While you're at it, why don't you start citing your staff, husband, rivals, colleagues, and pundits when you give your speeches– after all, you "borrow" from all of them quite heavily, particularly Obama.
This is the pettiest thing I've ever heard– Obama asked a friend and colleague for advice, and then he used that advice. He had Deval's consent.
Please, don't vote for Hillary– don't tell future polititions that this is the way to win.
This is why I'm glad the Republicans have a clear nominee for the election.
This childish accusation is the new version of "Hillary cries"...
Another "trick" she got out of the bag, just one day before the Wisconsin elections.
Dirty politics at its best...
This thing will hit Hillary back.
People may have thought that her New Hampshire tears were real...but now it's just too much...only a fool wouldn't understand that this is another desperate last hour "trick"...
Voting for W. was like ellecting "W., the idiot"
Voting for Hillary would be like ellecting "Hillary, the dodger"...
SHAME ON YOU NATASHA/SUPPORTER OF OBAMA
It's bad enough when sexist men use the 'emotional' card on a woman, but coming from another woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am glad you support Obama, as the saying goes... 'birds of a feather flock together'
The point is this, Hillary states that she WILL do something. This statement indicates that action is going to follow. Obama says he "can" do something. This indicates that the action considered is possible, it can be done, but it may not be done. This is a typical, lackluster tackling of the issues we can expect from a senator who "votes" "present" 200 times on difficult issues.
Thank You Dennis... (quoted)
Most people seem to be forgetting that most, if not all, of Obama's rhetoric is borrowed from John Edwards' 2004 and early 2008 campaigns. That "YES WE CAN" slogan was used originally by Edwards, and he coined the whole "change" movement before Obama took off with it. So Obama, of all people, should keep quiet about who lifted whose speeches"
Have mercy God, she's left with no other choice!
SO DOES THIS MEAN OBAMA'S SHEEP AREN'T EVEN FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PERSON?
I'm voting with more depth. Speeches and chant–especially plagarized ones–won't matter to me and my family, my job, etc. in the future.
I'm voting smart...VOTING HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
Ian Teppot,
of course Obama would say it was not a big deal. He is the one who has been caught red-handed, plagiarizing the speech, not she.
Obama is absolutely phoney. The only thing awe inspiring about him is his ability to manipulate the minds of the young into voting for an empty politician.
I knew it! I knew we were going to see the real Obama come out sooner or later! He is such a fake . The speech he said was the same as Deval Patrick. All this time people thinking how good of a speaker he is wiht his speeches. What a fake! He copied Hillary's economic plan and now he copied Deval Patrick's speech. He is nothing but a joke! Obama is calling on us to hire him as our next President, ask yourself, Do you really what to hire a person who is showing us how he can't think for himself. When you are caught coping or cheating in life that says a lot about yourself. You are seen as not being credible. He is not mentally mature to be our president at this time. There is to much at stake in our country at this time and i don't think i will be voting for him. I will be voting for Hillary or McCain.
If I were in college, and I had a friend who wrote a paper, could I hand that same paper in too with his permission?
When you take someones ideas without giving them credit that is plagiarism, permission means nothing.
Heres from the New York Times today about Mrs. Clinton
Many of her applause lines reprise the rhetoric employed by former Senator John Edwards, who dropped out of the presidential contest late last month after running on an explicitly populist economic message.
Mrs. Clinton told her audience that the Wisconsin primary on Tuesday and subsequent contests are “a chance for all of you here to help take our country back.
The oil companies, the drug companies, have had seven years of a president who stands up for them,” she says, looking directly into the camera. “It’s time we had a president who stands up for all of you.”
If I didn't know better, she stole these lines from John Edwards and Barack Obama.
i am so glad someone brought up the name: cesar chavez... people, be careful what you wish for, you may get it.... CESAR CHAVEZ / OBAMA.. Need I say more??? wake up people.. it's too late for venezuelan's now.
Well lets hope it doesnt come down to who we would rather sit and have a beer with or were really in trouble again.
I agree Ian Tepoot
Let's stop playing around, what Obama has done is called PLAGIARISM !!!!! What a "trustworthy" guy !!!!!!
Right on Karen, Nobody seems to understand that there is so much red tape to go through before anyone can PUSH a program through,
why aren't we all standing up and taking notice. I saw Sen.Obama on screen thisafternoon at a Rally and he had a lady up there singing and whathave you. I think he should give in and go to his true calling of a Theatrical actor, the rally was ridiculous and he needs to get back to serious politics instead of the stupid things he is doing.
By the way why is everyone on Chelsea's back because she wants to talk to the people which is as it should be, nobody should be speaking to the press, especiall CNN they turn everything inside out and give a total differen meaning to everything.
Don't just read the article watch the videos of the two speeches. I did and must say I was shocked at the blatant plagiarism. It's much more than a simple use of a slogan here or there.
Isn't Obama's "Yes we can" a direct ripoff from the California farm workers and Chavez from years ago?
Do both of these candidates need some quiet time? Maybe a nap?
We need adults running the country, not quarreling cranky children.
Ok, ok, mamma is going to settle it.....No one owns the phrase "fired up" or "yes we can". These phrases were in use long before either of these candidates started their campain, so they don't belong to anyone.
We know that the candidates don't write their own speeches. Can we dispense with that discussion as well? Nobody is copying, nobody is cheating....it is an open book test.
As a voter, I want to elect someone who takes my problems seriously. A candidate consumes my time with such silliness – Not so much.
Where is John Edwards when we need him.... paging a serious, adult democrat....any serious, adult democrat......
It's about time Obama is being exposed as lazy lazy lazy....he borrows more like steals from everyones speeches and calls them his owns....the worst is he is always stealing from Martin Luther King!!!
Obama create your own personality you are not MLK and you are more of the same contrary to what you want to make the public believe!! You are a hypocrite, Obama!!
Obama is... do as I say not as I do!!
Hillary for President, she is who she is!!! 2008
Come on Clintons!!! We've seen you "borrow" words from Obama on several occasions in the past month.
Hillary, if your campaign doesn't stop playing in the mud my pig farming friends in Iowa have a place for ya'll.
Omg...Hillary claims to be a "proven commodity, tried and tested". What kind of nonsense is that? Proven? When? Tried and tested? By whom? She keeps tossing out this bogus resume of her's expecting us to believe this nonsense. In typical Clinton fashing....SHE'S LYING!
Desperate people often do desperate things. Clinton is really reaching the bottom of the barrel with this one! I have heard her more than once use Obama phases and he let it go because he knew it was trite! Obama has higher ethics or should I just say is ethical ! Shame on the Clintons! But who is really surprised!
Hillary will do anything to get air time. How pitiful... and rather funny....
Hillary, PAY FOR YOUR OWN AIR TIME AND STOP RIDING OFF OF OBAMA!
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is out of touch with the needs of most Americans. Obama plans to offer tax incentives for companies to operate here in the US. He also plans to streamline the IRS to make it easier to file taxes. We need change folks!
I predict that Obama takes Wisconsin by about 7 points tomorrow. On the street here, everyone is pumped for Obama.
Let these two battle over childish issues like this. All it does is show their true colors and proves that this country needs a proven leader like John McCain!
Here is the story with Deval Patrick in MA: ever since he took the office in January of 2007 he has been pushing for the three casinos to be developed in our state because he can't think of any other ways to fulfill his promises he made when he was running for Governor of MA. Believe it or not, to pay for these expensive programs he came up with, he has proposed his budget for 2009 already including the revenues state would get from the casinos knowing that the House may vote against his plan for developing casinos. This is what we are dealing with in MA. He is running the state into deficit faster than he talks.
Obama is exposed for the poser he is. He pretends to be an agent of change yet he can't even write his own words. So, what is left? He doesn't have experience, he hasn't been able to develop detailed policy plans to help our nation and he can't defend his opponents views with his own thoughts?
BOTH KEVINS BAD ANNALOGIES!! PLAGARISM WAS COMMITED WATCH THE TAPE !!! WORD FOR WORD LINE FOR LINE THIS MAN SAID THIS IN 2006!! IT LOOKS AWRY I MIGHT AS WELL VOTE FOR PATRICK LOL...
This is SOOO much fun...! Hillary and Obama have the best reality show on TV. Top Chef and Project Runway have nothing on the Obama- Hillary Political Sideshow.
HOST
" Hillary –you are eliminated....!"
" Senator Obama, you go on to the final round."
AUDIENCE
Few tears for Hil : Lots of Cheers, OBAMA!
OBAMA 08– FELLS GREAT, OBAMA 09 We'll be fine! Go Obama!
Oddly enough, when you have been around as long as I have, and voted since 1952, you laugh at the way so many young people are following the Pied Piper," who really is tooting his own horn". It is all about the words isn't it? What we hear, what we want to hear, what we think we hear........and that is ,we hear the same thing, same issues in every campaign, directed to John Q. Public. And we fall for it ! Do you really think in 4 short years much will be accomplished, or is it really that we just want someone else for a change never really caring whether these politicians can deliver or not. Just give us change !! Well, think again, in order for "change" to happen, we need someone who knows what to do, where to go, how to make it a happen, has ideas and spells it out for us, in other words we need Hillary.
She truly does have solutions, I have heard them time and time again, but on the other hand Obama just talks, he is boring, I don't care what or who he has seen, or who endorses him, I am not in awe of him, and Obama mania isn't any different than a bunch of teenagers chasing a "Rock Star". Time shows us what experience can do, we do not have "time " for any more mistakes, we have had 8 years of them. WE need substance behind those words, no matter what the words are, being able to put those words into action is what counts in the end for you and me. Never mind the Lobbyists, we need some of that Lobbying" to get things done,it will never go away, and Obama won't be able to live without them don't let him kid you into thinking that. ! So listen with your heads, not your hearts, because it won't last, Obama is still wearing training pants, while HIllary is already trained and ready to move on. If you don't have experience what do you have to draw from. Of course Obana with Kennedy, Kerry endorsements you have the "old establishment" to lead you, do you want more of that??? TAke caution, listen with your mind, and vote the right decision, because once it is done, it is done !!!! GO HILLARY !!!
Hate to break it to you all but Bob The Builder coined the phrase "Yes we can". Crap like this will make McCain a shoe in in November. Wait and see!
"YES, WE WILL. YES, WE WILL. YES, WE WILL". (x10) Oh, how my ears bled.
I had nothing against Clinton at the start of this campaign – if Obama ended up losing the nomination, I would have voted for her. After all, their ideologies are quite similar.
Now, I'm not sure. Clinton has proven herself to be the type of candidate that would say anything and do anything to become elected. Pandering, lying, negativity... and fruitless attempt at copying Obama's rhetoric.
Clinton divides, Obama unites.
As a voter I want my vote to count for something. So I have been researching the issues and the people that are running for our highest office. I watch the news alot and found it odd that the news does not or will not focus on the truth. About want is being said. Who is being more truthful. It really is not that hard to find out. So why doesn't CNN focus on that for once...the truth. Who is being more truthful to us the voters?????????????
Hi Charlotte the CNN racist. Get a Job and stop with Obama Black slams. Yup looks like us Dems are going to mess this up. I will never vote for Hill. Decide what you are going to do. Are you going to cry? Are you going to have Bill fight your battles? Are going to hate on hope? Hillary you are a fake.
Yes, We Can... Si, Se Puede.
Dolores Huerta came up with that slogan back in 1976 for Cesar Chavez's Union Farmworkers, not the Obama Camp.
He Also lifted, to a point where the text is identical, Clinton Economic Policy.
He's even borrowed policies from John Edwards.
The point is, he's a politician trying to spin establishment tactics as new and anti-establishment.
He's getting away with it because he's the media darling.
But this whole thing" She copied me" stuff is childish. It show's he's not ready. I don't care if he's trying to make a point, the whole tone Is childish.
This wouldn't matter if Obama was running on more than words. . . but he's not.
CLINTON '08
When a candidate is the subject of a smear, taking the high road only makes that candidate seem weak. Look at Kerry, who initially tried to downplay the utterly slimy Swift Boat allegations. After Kerry lost the election, Bill Clinton declared that Democrats have to stand up on their hind legs and fight back when Republican smear campaigns emerge – not by retaliating, but by exposing the lies and the dirty politics.
So it's sad and ironic various smears keep originating from HRC's campaign, and that people consider it "whining" when Obama responds. I do wish Obama's camp hadn't mentioned the tendencies of other candidates to imitate his oratory, though. This is a stupid distraction.
No candidate is going to come out of this race looking blameless. And if you think John McCain is more of an "adult" than the others – well, this is the man who thought it funny to sing, "Bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of "Barbara Ann." I mean, really. His outbursts are legendary. Brace yourselves.