The DNC erred when they chose to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates and denied the people there their right to vote. They need to acknowledge their mistake and fix it. No one has the right to take away a person's right to vote. The people living in Florida and Michigan did nothing wrong. I think the Florida results should stand because all names were on the ballot and no one campaigned. Hillary gave a thank you speech after she won, but that can not be considered campaigning because the votes were all in. I heard CNN report that the Obama camp was laughing at Hillary for making a "victory" speech. Are you trying to tell me he wouldn't have done the same thing in her position??

I believe that this country is headed in the worng direction. People have left God out of the school and they're even trying to get him off our money and even out of the churches. To show how unGodly the country is going speaks to the pettiness going on inside of the Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton camp. Hillary Clinton is suppose to be the smarter and more experienced of the two but she is showing that she is a sore loser. If she has so much experience then show it be a winner by not focusing so much on what the other person is doing is wrong. Desparate people do desparate things. She needs to be more mature.

Marrianne- Obama supporters voting for McCain, yea and you have read a book!!! HAHAHAHAHA

Marianne - Your whole diatribe is ridiculous considering your last comment. "It was a proven fact on TV." You shouldn't believe everything you see on TV. Try actually educating yourself regarding the candidates and their positions, rather than listening to what pundits say. I'm so proud to be part of this young "do nothing," can't see the light generation, rather than your holier than thou, establishment humping, cog in the machine generation you are obviously a part of. Youre probably racist too. Dont lie.

I think we need to look at reason, here. The Democratic Party decided that states that changed their primary dates to a time before February 5 would not have their delegates seated. Even though it was aware of this, Michigan changed its primary date anyway. And now people are upset because the delegates will not be seated. They knew the rule, they broke the rule, and now they don't want to face the consequences. The delegates should not be seated for neither Michigan nor Florida because they broke the rules. The total delegates needed for nomination should be reduced by total of the number of delegates Michigan and Florida were entitled to. That will settle this whole business of any candidate getting enough delegates to be nominated.

Let's not make a mistake: This is the Democratic Party, not the people's party.

They get to determine who they will put up as a candidate. It is their right to decide who they want. They have modified their rules to get "advice" from the people, but they still retain the right to over-ride this advice with superdelegates.

The people get to choose in November, at the general election. The parties get to choose at their conventions.

Hello from holland,

Anxiously awaiting the result this year. Hoping after eight long years we'll see a democrat in the white house. On this subject: why did the democratic party make it so difficult. Letting those states vote but not letting them count. In the future they should change suchs rules. A true democracy counts every vote. We've seen in Florida 2000 what can happen!

I usually vote Republican, however, this time around I will vote for Hillary or Obama, that is, unless superdelegates supercede the citizen's decision. If this happens, Democracy will have been subverted and I will never consider the Democratic party again.

Superdelegates are reminiscent of a time when The House elected Senators. When ended up with the XVII Amendment to take care of that. Lawmakers need to be elected by the people, not another group of lawmakers.

Imagine if we have a caucus in Florida and the caucus chooses Obama, even though Clnton beat him by about 40% with 900,000 votes. You can't have a second ballot/vote unless it is a rubber stamp of the first one.

So, the Democratic party is still stuck with either giving Sen. Clinton the delegates or over-ruling 2 million voters. Ugly either way.

Re: Brett's comment. AMEN the press is clearly distorted. The real question is how much of the anti-Clinton bias is sexism and how much is personal.

wolf i told jack now you . none of the people running have what this country needs

Florida and Michigan votes should be counted, if for no other reason than because the race is too close to say we could afford not counting two states.

There should be no re-voting. No other state gets to re-vote, why should Florida and Michigan?

Hilary won those votes. Hilary stood up for those states and didn't falter under the rules imposed by the DNC. She spoke of them and committed herself to those states even when we knew those states would not be counted.

The argument that Obama wasn't even on the ballot doesn't count. Obama could have kept his name on the ballot. He chose to ignore Michigan. It may cost him in the long run because he should have fought for the people of Michigan to be counted as well. He made a calculated risk and lost.

If the Obama camp is so confident that they will wil the nomination with the help of other states, then they should go ahead and support the re-inclusion of those states. The Obama supporters are fighting against this because they know that Obama's lead would suddenly disappear if those people were counted.

NO RE-VOTES, NO NEW PRIMARIES, NO NEW CAUCAUSES in Florida or Michigan. Let the will and wishes of those people who voted COUNT!

I'm sorry, I meant Super Tuesday was comprised of 24 states.

Patrick Lee: In your dreams. If Obama won the nomination McCain would sweep him under the rug. Don, you think Hillary would tell her supporters to vote for McCain and that would give McCain a landslide. If Hillary wins the nomination, Obama supporters probably would vote for McCain. Obama's supporters are mostly this generations of no nothing do nothing and can'th see the light. Obama gives a good copied speech and this generation is eating up his words. What a president he would be. I am aware of the fact he is trying to be RFK but that will never be even though he practiced RFK's speeches. It was a proven fact on TV.

Why would you vote for someone who doesn't care about Florida or Michigan? If Obam does not care about those two states why then he would not care about you (The voter)!!!!

Clinton - 08 It is time for a woman President!!!!!

Hillary Has no respect for her own words, why sign an agreement if you plain on faulting on that statement or agreement? this is a perfect example of why she is not READY ON DAY ONE! to run this country. Will she sign some thing in to law AS PRESIDENT and then say that I did not mean to sign that, or I want to take that back! Hillary new slogan is that I will do any thing and everything to win, no matter what! and this is the person that the hillary supporters want to put in office to run this country? ARE YOU CRAZY?

If Hilary can't abide by what she and Barack BOTH agreed to prior to when she decided to campaign in Florida anyway then what's makes anyone so sure that she is going to abide by any rules or laws whatsoever once she get's into office? If she can't win FAIRLY by competing in an election sanctioned by her own political party and where all candidates names are on the ballot then what kind of leader would we end up with if she were elected …another G.W.?

The problem is there is no fair solution.

It is not fair that Michigan and Florida votes don't count, but the states broke the rules so it would not be fair to change the rules and count their delegates.

Howard Dean made the rules and the penalty for breaking the rules. Both state leaders and Mr. Dean should be held accountable.

First of all, in Michigan, voters had the option to vote for Hillary or "Uncommitted" and no one campaigned there. Obama and Edwards voluntarily removed their names from the ballots, but it was not required per the DNC.

Secondly, in Florida, 1.7 million voters turned out for Obama, Edwards, and Hillary. And, although no one campaigned there, Obama was regularly running ads on cable, but still lost to Hillary by 300,000+ votes (Hillary had almost a million voters, while Obama had ~630,000 voters). The message is pretty clear, voters want their votes honored and their choice was Hillary. This is not complicated, but people within and outside the party are trying to control who wins.

You can't go back in time and recreate the conditions under which voters were voting, and, on that basis, you can't have a re-election or caucus. Furthermore, caucuses tend to favor those who have the time and resources to skip out of work or other personal demands, which means that it doesn't really represent what the greater general public wants; especially those who are typically disenfranchised. That is nearly impossible in large states like FL.

The problem I see is this: the people in charge of the two states made a terrible decision to move up their primaries. However, it is the people of the states - the ordinary voters - who had their voices silenced and their right to vote disenfranchised in an effort to make the state party bosses heel.

Now we are discovering that we really did need those delegates that would have come about from a correctly administrated election in those states. The state's decision was wrong and the DNC's solution was nightmarishly foolish and grossly unfair to the ordinary people of those two states.

Since Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, obviously the results from that state cannot be counted - many people did not have the opportunity to vote for the candidate of their choice. Under no circumstances whatsoever should this intolerable situation have been allowed in the first place.

There is no perfect solution - multiple terrible decisions beget terrible consequences. However, when we are faced with gross inequities right and left, we are left with one question: what measure will ensure that motivated people in Michigan and Florida will have the opportunity to help select their Presidential candidate in a method that will allow them to vote for either viable choice?

I think setting up a do-over caucus is the only viable solution. You CAN'T leave these ordinary people out of the dialogue when we need their input so badly in a race so close. You can't accept the results we've already gotten because the rules in place set during the original primary says that the primary did not count. I think we do have to honor that original rule; we are just now fixing the intolerable situation created by the foolishness of the DNC.

Sure Obama would love to caucus in Florida for he does well in caucuses. If there is a debate however he tends to have problems; unless however he speaks anothers words. Give Hillary her delegates, she earned them! Florida has spoken!

Go Hillary!!

I envision that the whole issue of non-pledged delegates will be revamped after the election, but its too late for this period. People may not like but the rules are very clear eventhough it seems very authocratic and undemocratic - these 'super-delegates' can vote as they see fit, even to those who have dropped out. Like in tight race 1984 mondale vs hart almost all superdelegates went to mondale. The issue of exclusion of florida/michigan is to say the least strange-whats in a date? and no compromising position of committee-but think this can't be reversed in any way; a caucus is only a halve hearted approach/ time line issue another. Its very unfortunate but for the 2 candidates the only approach is hoping that the superdelegates vote for one of them. In a way not ideal, but gives a great suspense; in a tight race sometimes a jury have to decide the outcome.

I am from Michigan, and it is my firm belief that the outcome of our primary does not in any way reflect the true intentions of our voters. I voted "uncommitted" in the primary to show my support for Senator Obama, whose name was not on the ballot. Most voters I know chose to stay at home, knowing full well that not only was Senator Obama's name not on the ballot, but also that our delegates would not be seated. To call this a "win" for Clinton is ridiculous, as would be seating our delegates. I would love for our voices to be heard, through another primary or caucus. In the future, the Democratic National Party should find another way to punish state party officials, and not the voter.

PS…didn't the individual 'super delegates' have their individual vote counted in their home state? If so, how come they get two votes?

I just want to know why. WHY did Florida and Michigan feel it was so necessary to move up their primary dates???? Super Tuesday is early enough!!!! Personally, I think Super Tuesday should include ALL the states in both the Republican and Democratic primaries. Look at all the DRAMA that has ensued since…was it so important to be a couple of weeks ahead of 22 other states? I believe in holding the states accountable for breaking party rules. I just hope voters don't feel that their vote in the general election doesn't count, just because their state legislature wanted to glorify the importance of their own state. I've seen comments from the people of Michigan and Florida that say they feel disenfranchised because the D party won't count their votes…DON'T BLAME THE PARTY! BLAME YOUR STATE CONGRESS!

So Happy had a point about disenfranchised voters in two state. But, only Hillary was on the ballot in FL. If there was a 'do over' in Florida, it would be interesting to see the results with both names on the ballot.

I don't like even considering that the DNC might change their minds 'after the signature is on the paper'. That would be a breach of contract to the Florida voters.

Would you accept a contract where the information you signed for was changed 'after the fact'. I don't think so

A.Macaulay: I don't think you understand the concepts of this election. What did Obama ever do for America. He was born in Hawaii, went to Indonesia and live with his relatives in Kenya until he was about 12. Came to America, went to college, became a drug addict and a boozer, and an attorney for a crooked businessman, campaigned for senator but play some dirty pool on the lady that was running against him so he could win. Now what do you call that doing? Get real and face realtiy about this candidate. He is a liar, fake and can't create a speech of his own. How would he ever run the country. With the help of Kennedy and Kerry who probably are looking for favors because he doesn't have the integrity.

I'm a Michigander and feel let down by both the State legislature (for getting us in this mess without asking the opinion of the people) and the DNC for deciding that millions of people won't have their voices heard.

At least in Florida, all candidates were on the ballot. But in Michigan, the Democratic ballot was a joke.

We have open primaries in MI, so many people who would normally have voted Democrat decided to vote in the Republican primary instead because there were more options (not to mention, that their votes would actually count, albeit less than they normally would).

Saying that Clinton 'won' Michigan is very misleading. Would Clinton really have 'won' Michigan if Obama's name was on the ballot? Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know.

Either do something so our votes will count or don't seat any of our delegates (including superdelegates). Don't seat delegates without really knowing who the people would have chosen.

My greatest fear: MI and FL will, either by addition or omission, decide who's on the ballot come November. Either way, the losing candidate will have a valid reason to gripe for years to come.

But the end result is that the DNC has alienated a heck of a lot of voters and we won't forget that any time soon.

WOLF,

I AM A FLORIDIAN….AGAIN, OUR VOTES ARE NOT BEING COUNTED

AND THIS TIME FROM OUR OWN PARTY!!!!!

IF OUR VOTES ARE NOT COUNTED, MANY OF US WILL START

DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN…ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

WE HAD ONE OF THE LARGEST VOTER TURNOUTS IN FLORIDA

OUR VOTES SHOULD COUNTED OR DNC WILL BE SORRY

IN GENERAL ELECTION

Hi Jack,

I thnk when someone is punished for misbehaving, they should
bear the consequences. If children were left off so easily as they
grow and learn, it would take them a long time to follow rules and
regulations.

Besides, it may be Florida's first feeling of what it feels like to not have their vote count. Washington State is like that in every election. Last to vote and not enough delegates to make a huge difference.

The only fair way to count Florida is to split their delegates to help
either Hillary of Barack reach the 2, 025 goal. This is not just because I am a Sen. Obama fan, but because as a parent, I have three sons
who abide the law and know that if they do something wrong they
have to face the consequences.

Teresa King
Washington State

THOSE STATES SHOULD REMAIN AS THEY ARE NOT COUNTED UNLESS THERE IS A WAY TO ACTUALLY LET THE STATES VOTE ( OR REVOTE) KNOWINGTHAT THEIR VOTES WILL ACTUALLY BE COUNTED. I HAVE HEARD OF AND KNOW OF INDIVIDUALS WHO SIMPLE DID NOT VOTE FEELING THAT THERE WAS NO POINT TO DOING SO IF THEIR VOTE WAS NOT EVEN GOING TO BE CONSIDERED LET ALONE COUNT. NO HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT TRUELY WIN THESE STATES. HOW COULD SHE HAVE? NO CAMPAIGNING WAS DONE IN THESE STATES AND ONE OF THEM Michigan )DID NOT HAVE ANY OTHER CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT BUT HER NAME . THER WAS NO CHOICE.

On Fox News Sunday gov. Strickland of Ohio, a Hillary supporter said the Rules Committe in FL and MI would fix this. That the "rules" of the Rules committee is that they can now change the "rules".
Boggles the mind.

You are wonderful as always.

Wolf

If the votes will not count for the election for Democratic delegates in Florida and Michigan—then the number of delegates allotted for these two states should NOT be included in the total number of 2025 that are needed for nomination. If these numbers are NOT included–either Obama or Clinton should reach the magic number before the Democratic convention in August.

This mess in Florida amazes me.

In 2000, the Democrats went to court in Florida demanding that every vote was counted fairly with each vote being properly recorded after the Presidential election.

Now in 2008, those same Democrats are disenfranchising the Democrat voters of Florida and saying that their votes won't count towards determining the Democrat Candidate for President.

Those Democrats sure are hypocritical. They say and do whatever they feel is necessary to move their socialist agenda forward.

i do think that something should be done to count the votes in MI and FL, but the hillbilly and her supporters way of just handing them over is not the answer. hold another primary,caucus or mail-in i don't care, but make it fair. the talk of disenfranchizing voters is fair game but what about the voters that didn't vote bc they knew the votes wouldn't count. yeah, every vote needs to count but not by lying,cheating and/or stealing them.

Break the rules lose your rights. Rules and regulations are there for a purpose, both states took a chance and gambled and lost, now they pay the price of not behaving.

Superdelegates have been aroun forever but it don't make right and probably should have never been set up. It's the vote of the people that win not the "good old boys" politics.

It sure shows you what Clinton is all about thou doesn't it ? She's losing and only wants the delegates to count because there in her favor! What next if she don't get her way, is she then going to take her marbles and quit or just whine and cry some more? I bet she sits there stomping her feet saying, "But but but it's not fair".

So first Obama says he'll seat the delegates if he's the nominee, then he advertises here even though he's not supposed to. Then he gets creamed in the Florida primary by Hillary who didn't spend a dime in the state. Now he's complaining Hillary wants to seat the delegates.

Why is he such a whiner?

Guess the democrats still haven't figured out democracy.

I cannot believe that Lisa Caputo can sit there and answer your questions with a straight face - talk about spin for Hillary - last week she had the nerve to say Hillary won both Florida and Michigan and therefore should get the delegates even though it was the state democratic parties that bucked the national democratic party to move up their primaries - face you move up the primaries - you lose the delegates - now she says Hillary is not forgetting some states in order to concentrate on the big ones of Texas and Ohio - please - she represents why this Democrat who would love to see a woman in the White House is not buying into the Clinton machine and will vote Obama

Come on, CNN, can't you just report fair and balanced news? Everything you report is so biased in favor of Obama. Everything you say about Hillary is negative. Even Jack Cafferty no longer is worth listening to…he used to have original thoughts…now he just panders to the Obama hype. So sad.

Where was all of this outrage when the decision was first made. Why didn't the citizens go to their state govenrment and ask that they move the primary back to Super Tuesday when it would count.

People in Fla and MI had plenty of time to try an force a change before the days came to vote. People are just made now because the person they want to win isn't winning.

If people would have showed the anger and outrage back then, maybe their votes would count now.

LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY FOR THOSE HILLARIANS AMONG US.
IF OBAMA IS LEADING WITHOUT MI AND FL, AND IF COUNTING THEIR VOTES AS IS WILL NOT GIVE IT TO HILLARY, THEN WE WILL ACCEPT THEM. AUTHERWISE, HILLARY MUST BE LEADING FOR THOSE STATES TO BE ACCEPTED AS IS. So go out there and campain to win fair. The game is still on. If you win fair, we will all join you in the general elections. If not fair, then wait for the Macain democrats. we are here millions strong.

MI and FL. DID THIS TO THEMSELVES BY MOVING UP THEIR PRIMARY. THE RULE IS THE RULE.

It is absurd to think that allowing Super Delegates paradigm to exist is going to increase the chances that one man one vote democracy ever become a reality in national elections. This concept is more along the lines of the vote early, vote often oligarchy concept.

Sorry Wolf…

Hillary did not "win" any votes in MI and FL because there wasn't an election. More SLEAZY Clinton politics….

Only a "redo" will set the record straight.

GO OBAMA

CNN blocks comments that don't favour obama. Consistently, systematically, unashamedly. Are they really so stupid as to think they can get away with it, and come away with a reputation any better than that of FOX?

I've watched and relied on CNN my whole life.

What happened to you over there?

WAKE UP, FIX UP, OR GET OFF THE AIR, THE INTERNET AND ANYWHERE ELSE YOU MANIPULATE PEOPLE BEHIND THE FACADE OF AN OBJECTIVE NEWS CORPORATION.

As a registered Democrat in Miami Beach Florida, I urge you to hear what Dan Gelber (the Minority Leader in the Florida House of Representatives) is suggesting as a solution to the delegate problem in Florida.

In a nut shell, he is suggesting that the DNC pay for a run-off style mail-in vote. Not too expensive, realistically evenhanded for both candidates and a real solution that allows Florida voters voices to be heard.

Perhaps this can be a similar stradegy in Michigan as well.

1. According to my brother who lives in Ft. Myers, Florida has another Statewide election, on a property tax amendement, that is already scheduled.
2. All canidates names were on the ballots in Florida.
3. The DNC decision was made last summer. The canidates had organizations in place, nobody disbanded.
4. Obama, and only Obama, had a lot of his national TV commercials "slip through" in Florida.
5. If the Democrats ignore Florida, they will lose, regardless of the contrived importance of NH and Iowa.
6. The party can nominate whomever they want. They don't have to have a single election or caucus. This is not the same thing as a real election. Nobody has any "right" to vote here. That is why it seems unfair. Educate the people, Wolfe.

I understand that Obama did run adds in Florida. And Hillary attended a fundraiser.

Please don’t let us change the rules of the game in the middle of the game - if super delegate will end up giving Hillary the nomination – so be. It is too late to change the concept of super delegate now. After all, Hillary has more experience and has been in politics longer than Obama. She has the right to rely on those whom she has built stronger political relationship with for years. Hillary has no control over the younger folks supporting Obama due to his (young look appeal and speeches he gave) then Obama should worry less about Hillary capitalizing on her experienced colleagues. I hope the more experience one prevails.

Bottom line, the Democrats are in a pickle and unless he or she quits, this will likely cost them the general in November.

It is not fair to those people who had no choice in when they voted. I think the DNC should count the delegates as is. If they revote there was no purpose in moving the vote up. It is not fair to the rest of the country that 2 states get to set the tone of the primaries or caucuses.
Look at what happened in WV, that was not fair to WV Repulicans or the candidates. How can we say bartering for delegate votes is democracy. We should all get to vote in the primaries (not caucuses, which do not accurately represent what voters want) at the same time.

For all of the people who are going to argue that it would not be fair to Obama, remember he chose to take his name off the MI ballot, and he did run TV ads in FL (the only Dem to do so).

So, where is the flap? Michelle and Cindy and proud of America…statement of fact. Am I missing something?

The candidates whose name was not on the ballot choose it to be that way. So why should Hillary Clinton's supporters not be counted toward the delegates. Just another political "stupidity" by the Obama supporters.

So the powers that be want to make the voters in Florida and Michigan do it all again. They voted once, use those results. To not use them appears to be a way to get more delegates to Obama and ensure he is the chosen one. As far as not having Obamas name on the Michigan ballot, give him a proportional amount of votes based on prior voting to Michigan. I.e. Give him the average of all Caucuses and Primaries prior to the Michigan vote based on votes not cast for Clinton.
To make them Caucus again is a definite advantage to Obama. Of that there is no doubt, so it appears Howard Dean and Friends want to get rid of Clinton.
If the Florida and Michigan votes do not count, then the Democrats in those states should exercise their right to vote in the general election and write in Hillary's name on the ballots as a protest vote. This way they still vote, albeit not for the Democrats. I thought this party was supposed to be Democratic? Doesn't appear that way to me!

rules are rules, not to be broken. As sorry as I am for fellow Michiganders and Floridians, your state legislatures took a chance and lost. No delegates from those 2 States should be seated.

How simple can this possibly get? The rules are easy to understand. If Florida and Michigan want delegates they simply have to hold a primary or caucus on or after Feb. 5. If they'd like to change the rules for the future, there's a mechanism for doing that. I for one will not vote for any candidate who cheats the rules to be nominated, no matter who it is, no matter what party they belong to.

The News Media very critical of Hillary Clinton- Obama is lucky on many aspects

Folks like Chris Mathews, MSNBC and others chronicled overwhelmingly negative on Clinton . Some of them are so enthusiastic about Barack Obama's - I believe that’s how this dirty media and some (….what ever you call it) journalist works- Yes its some sort of free ride or not momentum

The elections have taken place in these states and can't be done twice without turning the whole process into some type of circus and lose all credibility as a democratic process!

Florida and Michigan electors as well as its elected officials must demand that all delegates from their states be seated at the convention. Every state in the Union must support Florida and Michigan in insisting that their delegates be seated with the other 48 states' delegates.

Not allowing some states to participate fully in our presidential election process is unconsitutional and undemocratic!

All of the candidates were on the ballot in Florida and none of them campaigned there. In Michigan Barak Obama took his name off the ballot list but the DNC didn't ask him to do that, nor the other candidates.

The DNC must rectify their error and the only way is to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan chosen from their respective primaries in January.

I am a 73 year old black woman and likd Michele Obama I too am more proud to be an American. People from all ethnic groups crossed lines and voted for a black man for the highest position in the workd. Change happened because of Faith and Hope.

At long last, America accepts all of her citizens as equals. You would have had to walk a mile in our shoes to understand her statement. This holds true for Cindy McCain also.

This has nothing to do with patriotism but everything to do with equal rights lon denied us

Margaret D. Keaton
New Haven, CT

It appears that the real culprits in the uncertain role of superdelegates for Florida and M ichigan is the state leadership for those two states. Both states knew in advance what the DNC rules were and still chose to play maverick and disenfranchied the voters of their respective states. As painful as it may be for the voters of those two states, the real shame and disgrace of this situation lies not with the presidential candidates or the DNC, but the irresponsible and self-serving local political leadership. Shame..Shame..Shame.

You are all missing the big picture here. Threatening not to vote at all or vote for a republican just because your state was stripped of delegates. That sounds like a child throwing a tantrum, because they did not get their way. We are supposed to be more concerned with what’s best for the nation. If we talk like this we run the risk of putting our party politics ahead of the greater good. I understand your frustration, but that is not the answer. I feel the only way to fix this is to either re-run an election in those states or stick to the stripping of the delegates. It is not fair to just give the delegates to Hillary sense no one really got a chance to campaign there. I would be disappointed if Obama does not win due to the super delegates. However I would not decide to vote Republican. Even though I feel the people should decide who represents the democrats, rules are rules. This Super Delegate issue might be one to take a look at after this election is all wrapped up. Let’s stick together and make sure the United States gets a fresh start. Remember if Hillary is your gal, or Obama is your guy they are both better solutions than McCain.

Let's have a REAL DEMOCRACY

One person=One Vote
NOT One Dollar=One Vote

Caucus should not be allowed. They are not the american way. Primaries should be done everywhere. Fl and Michigan should be counted.

If things turn around for Hillary in which it could (people of Ohio,Texas and Penn. are smart people more then average), the Obama people will be crying for the super delegates.Hillary kept her name on the ballot because she is for all the people and she did not campain in either state just kept her name there like they all should have,who are you people to say other states don't count

Joe NJ,

that is very much on my mind and a big reason why I back the candidate I do.,

Yeah right. I hope mIchelle Obama runs for office one day. I will definitely ask her why she is not proud of the country she is born and raised until now. Is she so self centered that she is proud now because she and her husband are in the center of this important election? asked for hope and gotplagiarism and now we hear she was proud for the first time. Shame on Obama and Michelle.

The people of Michigan and Florida should be outraged that their leaders decided to break the rules and move their primaries ahead of time. Their leaders have put the voters of MI and FL in a terrible position, and have disenfranchised them. People say, "rules are rules." Why didn't the decision makers in MI and FL play by the rules in the first place? Then we wouldn't be in this bad of a mess. Shame on them!

I don't think the DNC can change the rules in the middle of the game and maintain credibility through the November general election. It is truly unfortunate that Michigan and Florida won't have delegates at the convention, but we need to be mindful of how this will effect us in general election come November and do what it best for the Democrats as a whole. If this issue goes on and on we will not be able to come together this fall and defeat the Republicans. God help us if the Republicans get 4 more years……..

It shows the "content of the charactor" of the Clinton campaign.

It was clear watching the returns on T.V. that night. They explained why Florida & Michigan would not count.

Now that Hilliary is loosing, they think it should count ?

I know people in these states and I have been told; many people did not vote because they knew it wouldn't count. So, what about these people Hilliary ?

with everyone watching this race how can they not count Fl.and Mi. at first everyone was saying they would probably be seated at the convention what happened to that.. whar happens if the Fl resident get mad and don't vote or cross over then no dem. will get in you need fl and mi.

The Dem candidates asking the Dem Party to change its rules & its decisions because they don't like the consequences, and the fact that it's actually being considered, is a perfect example of the problem with the Dem Party in general. That's the "victim" nature that the Dem candidates appeal to, after all - "Oh, I made a decision, but I don't like the problems that that decision caused, so can you make the consequences go away?"

It's similar to the school kid that doesn't study for a test, and then wants a make-up test.

If either of the Dem Candidates had the a small fraction of the character of most Republicans, who value personal responsibility, then they would have the guts to stand up and say, "We understand why the original decision was made, and we'll abide by that decision."

This whole Dem Michigan/Florida party penalty thing isn't news - it's just Hillary crying in her soup - which usually garners attention, which, again, isn't news - it's ENABLING!

With the DNC you are simply dealing with a 'corporation' that can and will do anything they want to bring who they want o the front of the election. Same goes for the Republicans. It's no mystery, nor a control issue. If the coporation called DNC want Obama they will move him to the podium. If they want Clinton, they will present her. They (DNC) call the shots and set the rules. You simply do not. I'm not saying that's wrong or bad. It simply is what it is. No one has a better solution so, yes maybe your candidate doesn't become the front runner. Oh well…. It does seem to work better than anarchy.
Microsoft could do the same. Call themselves a party and with enough numbers, proffer up their candidate of choice- Mr. Gates.

Let us remember what Wolf does not point out: Obama TOOK his name off the Michigan voluntarily.

Superdelegates has always been the backup plan for anything to happen just what may happen now.

Why is it such an issue, it will be Democrats deciding for Democrats. Silly, the media is putting a negative spin to it to sabotage the process.

I wonder who they are rooting for!

If Fla and Mich voters arent gonna count then they should not vote come November to protest.

every vote needs to count
Go Hilary

No more caucuses! I will caucus tonight in Hawaii but do not look forward to this very unrepresentative process. Caucuses are a sham!

Take it to the convention if necessary. No deals - no more caucuses! This is America not Russia. Enjoy the challenge and the competition!

superdelegates should respect the people decision of his or her states. If Clinton won a state or Obama won a state in populer vote
superdelegates should be voted whoever won the state.

I highly doubt CNN would put "win" in quotation marks if its choice candidate, Barack Obama, had emerged with the most votes. In fact, I am sure of it. Shame on you.

HELLO PEOPLE!

IN A SHOW OF SUPPORT FOR IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE.

OBAMA, EDWARDS, RICHARDSON TOOK THEIR NAMES OFF HTE BALLOTS> THEY SUPPORTED THE PENALTY THAT THE DNC LEVIED ON TO MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA.

IT WAS THEIR DECISIONS TO REMOVE THEIR NAMES… WHY DIDN"T OBAMA AND EDWARDS STAND UP FOR YOUR STATES?

WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT A CANDIDATE THAT DIDN"T?

Here's the issue I have in seating any delegates for MI and FL…..

What's to prevent any state from moving up their primaries if there are no consequences? If they end up seating these delegates in any meaningful way then they either A) need to come up with a better way to prevent "premature primary voting" or B) just let the states hold their primaries whenever they like.

As a parent the whole idea of turning around and letting MI and FL to seat their delegates makes no sense. What respect would my kids have for my rules if I didn't follow through with punishments?

Kathleen: That's what the problem is people like you are sucked into his fake speeches that were copied from Patrick, JFK, RFK & MLK. Get to know him? I could read him like a book without the cover. This young generation can't read between the lines and screen him while he is campaigning because he's got them buffaloed with his talk. How did they ever get thru college if they are that dumb. I had him figured from the first speech. But after all I am not from this generation that'w why we are smarter. Obama would bring this country into a disaster worse than what Bush did. He lacks the experience and knowledge to become the president of this country. It takes a person with integrity and he doesn't have that. Maybe four years from now he will.

Caucus is wrong. It's a quick fix band aide to a bigger problem.

I'll lost all my respect to Democrat Party if this happen. I will tell the DNC that they don't have to be bother calling for my donation anymore. I'll be registered as independent or perhaps repug.!

Or, maybe it has more to do with the fact; that this time super delegates are actually an issue. I am for neither candidate, but this race being close is good for the United States. It is exposing flaws in the system that would have otherwise gone unnoticed. It is a real problem. I do know that Obama will likely win the pledged delegate vote. Clinton's only chance then is to win under super delegate votes. That is bad for democracy, and bad for the people of the U.S. It is not a media bias, it is just the fact that Barrack Obama is on the right side of the argument. Elitists should not trump the people's vote. If Hillary Clinton was on the other side of the argument, it would be no different.

You have got to be kidding me I cannot believe anyone would think that it is fair to count these two states the way they stand. If there is to be a count from there there must be a FAIR vote. To say one thing and do another is in no way fair. Obama pulled his name from one of the ballots according to the rules. Let both names be on the ballot or you cannot fairly count the vote as real!!!!!

okay this is news.

It was established ahead of time that Michigan and Florida would not count for any delegates. As a result, no campaigning was done tose states. Since there was no contest in either state, the vote that was done was unfair. Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Besides, Hillary is only trying to get those delegates seated because she is behind Obama without them. She doesn't care about peoples' voices being heard, she only cares about winning. She can't just change the rules in the middle of the game simply because she is losing. I hope people see what she is trying to get away with here.

Caucuses are inherently un-democratic. Only 2-10 percent of all voters have 3-4 hours to give to a caucus. Not to mention the pressure of having to vote publicly. They should all be primaries, secret ballot, one- person, one vote. Having said that, Florida had a primary and Clinton won. The Republican legislature and Governor Bush of Florida purposely moved the primary against the wishes of local Dems in order to cause this problem. They should not be rewarded. Seat Florida. As for Mich. Obama voluntarily removed his name. Clinton should not be punished by his stupid actions.

"Barrack The Magic Steamroller" will sweep Hillary away and he'll be the next Pre-si-dent that'll push the "War Ma-chine aside…………..

Hey Wolf!
Good job as always. Having caucuses at the end of the primary season wouldn't do much to sort the situation out as obviously the the candidate that is in the lead with pledged delegates would have the advantage of using the momentum to get the upper hand in the caucuses. Isn't it better to stick with the rules and just let it go at that? Both states screwed up and lost the revenue and the prestige of what would have been an, all eyes on them competition, if they had left well alone? Most of us don't get the benefit of second chances and if Michigan and Florida are going to get second bite at the apple then its like me getting my money back at the casino and getting to bet again? That's what this is all about! The states wanted to have their say first because they thought it would all be over by February and did not loose out on chance to call the White House and call in the chips when they need them.

No way should there be caucuses - they are corruption and bullying of the worst kind.

THEY HAD A PRIMARY JUST LET IT COUNT.

Dear Mr. Blitzer,

You spend a lot of time talking about super delegates and that may never be an issue. Wouldn't the electorate be better served by a critical discussion of the differences in platforms and what each would mean to our democracy. I have been ill and watching more TV news than usual and am concerned that there is not equal unbiased coverage of the candidates. Why does this happen. Is it just that Obama offers such a good story, as did George Bush in 2000, or is it gender discrimination against strong women, or is there a more sinister reason for this. The press has such a tremendous responsibility for helping inform the electorate. The results of the coming election will eventually have as much effect on you as it will on me. Can you try a little harder to balance your network coverage and actually be the best network news on television? And come on, give Huckabee a break. He has as much right right to continue his candidacy as any of the others and though I'm not voting for him I appreciate his input. Thank you for your time.

Laurel Brooks

Why cant anyone understand that the primary in florida was set by repulication legislature and governor. we were uncounted in 2000and will be uncounted again.

The superdelegates for Florida and Michigan bear responsibity for this fiasco and should not be allowed to vote. It doesn't sound like the voters in these two States were informed by their representatives(delegates) what would result in moving their primary dates up. They should be sued for misrepresenting their voters and not make it the responsibility of others to fix their mess.

Why are we revisiting Michigan & Florida? Wasn't it the DNC who stripped them of their delegates? Didn't ALL candidates agree not to campaign in both states? Do we really want to continue to tear apart the Democratic party over an issue that was decided months and months ago? We MUST unite or we will run the risk of destroying our party and thus allowing McCain to win the white house. Democrats, do we really want McCain? Can we afford, "In lives and in treasures," a 100 years more of this Iraq war? Can we afford, "In lives and in treasures," another war with Iran? If for no other reason, think about our kids AND our country! Can we continue to sacrifice our young people? Can we afford more of this war? We are headed (or in) a recession now! Another war WILL bankrupt America! We are better than this…Democrats, we must stop this bickering, before it's too late!

The Democratic party needs to stick by it's guns on the issue of Michigan and Florida- change things up without our say-so and you're done. Period. End of story. And if they don't move their primaries BACK for the 2010 cycle, they should continue to be denied delegates at the conventions until they do.

The reason for this is simple: the Democratic party needs to solidify it's party in much the same way as the Republican party did in the early 2000's- vote with the party, or you don't get supported next election. Toe the party line, or else. The Democratic party is having serious issues internally right now, and it's far past time for the Party to get it's act together as a political whole in order to actually accomplish something, or risk falling out of favour with the exceedingly fickle voting public.

It's put-up or shut-up time for the Dems, and they had better start with their own before they take on a force as well organised as the Republican Party.

I'm from florida, I have talked to many people who did not vote, with the understanding that the vote would not count. So, if they change their minds and allow the vote to count they should re -vote.

My thing is every time we vote for president some kind of voting problem pop up. Give Florida voter a break, everybody is not a republican. If their vote count our should too.

The reason it is controversial this time is because of the possibility that Obama cleanly wins the normal delegates, yet still looses the nomination because some super delegates voted against the wishes of their own state.

One person. One vote. Superdelegates are anti democratic. And SHAME on Hillary for agreeing to forgo Florida and Michigan and then turning around and demanding they count. Typical Clinton manipulation.

Wolf, they are called rules. The rules are the rules. Everyone, including Clinton, agreed to them at the start.

I understand that the Clinton News Network is pro Hillary….but can we agree that the rules should be followed?

Give us a break here.

the democrats created thier election system, now two decades later it will make the biggest decision ever at the convention.

i don't have a dog in this hunt as lou would say,

but exsperince is what this nation needs, mr. obama dosn't have it.

the republicans will pick him apart, or what little of him there realy is.

they want obama, look at the carter/ ford race of 76, they will devour obama alive, were at war, the vet will shine.

bowling green, mo.

Hillary Clinton is a woman who really wants the Presidency. She is clearly very intent on becoming President, to serve her own purposes. I am very angry that she is throwing around insults at Obama and of her attempts to undermine his campaign. Don't be blind people!

No, no caucuses. Those states had primaries and it is the only fair way to go. Caucuses will disenfranchise many of those who voted in the primary because they won't be able to make the caucuses! It is also a cheap way to try to favor Obama who will load them up with his fanatics and browbeat everyone else.

If the Michigan and Florida delegates are seated without a fair caucus or primary, I will quit my monthly contribution to the Democratic party. We're tired of "politics as usual" and the high turnout in the nation's other primaries and caucuses is because we expect something different. Don't destroy our chance to begin to fix the disaster of the last 7 years and the next one.

Where was the outrage and precaution to avoid BEFORE the Florida and Michigan primaries?

Personally I thought the DNC's decision to strip FL and MI of their delegates was as ridiculous as it was unfair. But for all purposes that decision seemed to have been accepted. IN deference to that decision Democratic candidates, with the exception of Sen Clinton, did not campaign in those states or put their names on the ballot.

To cry "Unfair!"' now is, well, unfair. The Clinton camp wants the clain the FLa and MI delegates now — isn't that a bit like wanting to place a bet on a winning horse after the race is over?

" I suspect we will see caucuses in Michigan and Florida if this race remains unresolved. That is possible. The Democratic Party big shots would prefer that to a brokered convention on the floor in Denver." - Could a legal challange from the Clinton team force the party to accept the Michigan & Florida results?

Remember when things were going bad in Iraq and CNN gave us a steady diet of Michael Ware moaning how hopeless it was. When was the last time you saw Michael Wareor any reporter in Iraq on CNN? Now it is non stop blather about Obama's "momentum" —and Iraq has disappeared. Nevermind that we still have about 120,000 combat troops over there. It now is more important to feed us Obama mania and Lyndsey Lohan. Maybe if things crap out again, CNN will pull Mr. Ware out of the hamburger joint and put him in front of the camera again. Does the media manipulate the news? Is the Pope Catholic?

Well Wolf. at least the democrates are not crying over hanging chads
My opinion for what it is worth is this .. All votes should count do away with the delegates.. the fair way is to let all our votes count and Wolf Hillary will be President

I do hope the DNC does not capitulate and seat these delegates without some form of a fair contest. In fact, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they were not seated at all, period. Those states broke the rules and now they have to live with the consequences.
It appears to me that Hillary played both sides of that issue by pledging to support the DNC's decision, then making sure her name was on the ballot in both states. Further, she pledged to support the decision then and now argues those delegates should be seated. It would seem to me she is being a bit opportunistic here - to put it mildly.
I do not strongly oppose or support either candidate. I just think that, once a decision is reached by the party, all candidates - and their campaign staff - should be honor bound to uphold it and the party should not back down.

Both Hillary and Obama are calling on the DNC to do the thing that would benefit them personally. This convinces me that both of them are self-serving politicians. I would have thought that especially for Obama, this might be a chance to show his awesome compromising spirit, but no, apparently winning is more important.

I don't know if this will get through the filter, but Wikinews has been interviewing third-party candidates. We don't have to put up with these selfish jerks — we have a choice.

Great thoughts on a sticky situation… especially for the democrats and the role that the superdelegate will play in 2008. Thanks for the insight.

Ya know… I understand why they shouldn't be counted, But I am a Michigan resident/voter, and truth be known it is not our/voters fault for this stupidity.. so are we not to be considered nor our vote?? hello this is the U.S.A and votes do count we are the PEOPLE not the Goverment. I am beside Hillary and would pray that my vote matters?? after all what message does that send out to the world? We need to be the example of this thing called Democracy.

You live in a democracy and you believe a super delegate should have one voter times over 10,000 voting power?

Even if they do caucus and seat delegates, is that enough to put someone over the top given the proportional rules? This thing is brokered unless Obama can keep winning and by large margins…

To bad too; whoever wins, the other side will feel cheated and I think the ticket gets defeated.

Caucuses are very undemocratic. Florida and Michigan should get full primaries not caucuses where a few percent of the Democrats get to vote

In addition I have not heard a good argument why the delegates from Florida should not be seated as they are. All the candidates were on the ballot there - the only one to campaign there was Obama via National Ads - and in fact Obama had just won the South Carolina primary should have given him a boost. The very source of the 'problem' of the Florida primary being early was due to the Republican government setting the date. Clearly the DEmocrats in Florida should not be punished for that.

As for the total vote cast and pledged delegates - I believe Clinton is ahead if Michigan and Florida are counted. I remember when the primaries took place - that party officals there believed they would be seated at the Convention when the smoke cleared.

I continue to hear Wolf Blitzer promote a fiction, just moments ago with Donna Brazile, that Florida Democrats changed the rules on their primary and should not be seated.

This is like the "big lie" that keeps getting repeated with the hope that it becomes true. What don't they understand about the truth?

The State Legislature, both houses of which are controlled by Republicans, changed the primary date and it was signed into law by the Republican Governor. The Democratic leaders had absolutely NO CONTROL over the change in date.

It worked out to be a brilliant Republican ploy. Their primary counted and they successfully disenfranchised the voting Democrats yet another time — like the way their votes didn't count in 2000.

Why national Democratic party leadership aided and abetted the Republican Party in disenfranchising Florida Democrats is anybody's guess. Why the "talking heads" keep twisting the reality is nothing short of moronic.

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Another round of caucuses in Michigan and Florida would be a good choice. The current results in those states aren't representative, so two choices remain on the table: shut them out, or give them another chance. Shutting them out will probably cause a lot of voters to be angry though, so if they still wish to have a chance of winning those states in the general election, they'd better let them in.

DNC should accomodate the GOP's rule in the future. They have to realize now, how expensive and time consuming their system are.

I have always respected CNN as being professional.
However I find it increasingly disturbing how Wolfe using positive language when talking about Obama and VERY NEGATIVE when talking about Senator Clinton.
Listen to your self and please not let your personal choices impact on the job you should be doing of reporting the news.

I don't get where Clinton gets off saying she won in FL & MI and now wants those states to count. Especially in MI where Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot! If MI & FL can organize caucuses so their states have a say in the election, that seems fair to me. However, if Obama keeps up the momentum throughout Texas, Ohio & PA, I think Clinton should bow out gracefully.

Caucuses in these states are the only fair way to seat these delegates.

If they get pushed in any other way many will be livid.

Wolf Please get the facts straight. Democrats in Florida did not change the rules on the primary date. The completely Republican controlled legislature changed the primary date in Florida!!!!!!

Can it be clarified about who chose to move the dates for the Michigan and Florida primaries? I was under the impression that it wasn't the people in those states that decided but specific people in the Democratic party. They keep talking about the people trying to cheat but in my opinion it is the other way around; certain people made the decision to go early and everyone who wanted to vote in the Democratic primary is being punished. Because all delegates weren't on the ballot in Michigan I can understand not including those results but all delegates were on the ballot in Florida.

I am not sure why it is a point of discussion. They made the rules, everyone agreed to them, including Mrs. Clinton. To change the rules now, only to benefit Clinton would do a great disservice to the Party.

Food for thought:
What would the DNC's take be, if all democrats in Florida & Michigan decided not to vote in the general election. After all, if their voice is not going to be heard in the primaries, why bother with the general?

Another thing is that if Mitchigan and Florida gets a redo (Caucus or Primary). Obama will win both. Many in CA are already regrating their early votes for Hillary.

That would be a good idea if Michigan and Florida woud have a caucus there and let Obama and Hillary campaign there in April maybe before Pennsylvania and see what happens so everyone will be happy. Hopefully the DNC is learning their lesson.

has anyone noticed that in florida the leadership and the legislature are republican! they are the ones that put the state in front of their normal time to vote. the every day regular citizens who voted in the primary had nothing to do with changing the date before super tuesday. how can they be disenfranchised again? if their votes won't count then once again the republicans will have helped pick the next president! can you check into this wolf? please….by the way mr obama did have tv adds in florida. so many people online on that night asked how that could be if there was to be no campaigning period.

If Mich and Fla dare to do a re vote of convenience (convenient for Obama that is), you will here a national outrage against the Dem party and the media like you've never seen. there are a large number of Dems or liberals out there who will vote against Obama if this nomination is handed to him, as the media has tried to do since the first state held it's caucuses.

We will not vote for Obama no matter how much you and the media try to shove him down our throats.

Hopefully, the battle will be decided by May. If it isn't, then I fear the worst for the Democratic party. There are now two ways the Democrats can squander the presidential election:

1) Allow the Super Delegates to overturn the pledged delegates, and hence allow overturning the will of the people

2) Allow delegates from Michigan and Florida to cast votes. The rules of the Democratic Convention were crystal clear and agreed upon by all parties. Reneging on this agreement would destroy the credibility of the Democratic party.

I say again, . . . the Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

I believe that the only fare way to resolve this issue, ( and I stress fare for all ) Is to hold another election in Florida & Michigan.

They should be the last states to vote for the primary in June, 2008

It has been reported that a "primary" would be to expensive, and a "caucus" could be achievable.

The states should bare the cost, so let them decide what format they choose.

It's plain and simple, so I'm sure no one will understand the logic !

I cant believe that FL and MI might actually be counted. If thats the case then why were there rules in the first place? I guess it just depends on who's winning at the time as to whether or not these states will be considered "disenfranchised"

mich. and fla superdelegates should be shut out. these two states broke the rules and hillary clinton backed the vote to not count the delegates,,,,,now that she is down hillary now wants to overturn the rule and have the delegates counted….. this is the evil coniving hillary that wants to be president……. dont count those delegates…

Thank you Wolf. I agree 100%. However Hillary needs to be a little less confident. Obama has proved already that he can cut deeply into her following. That is why she would prefer the award with out the so called re-do. However she agreed to the way it is now, and she needs to accept the out come no matter what or where it falls. Same applies to Obama. One thing for sure, is I will not vote for Hillary, and if she does will, the republicans will get my vote.

I don't know how the Dems. are going to resolve this if the nomination fight goes all the way into summer. If they seat the Fl/MI delagates it's going to upset one group of supporters no matter if they take the current vote or if they have a caucus. The only way that both parties agree to seating those delegates is if they have a full blown re-primary and that isn't going to happen because of money and politics within those states.

Bottom line, the Dems. have found a way to fracture the party and loose in November.

I think the superdelegates should just stay out of it and let the people decide by a simple majority. We claim to be the greatest democracy on earth. There is nothing democratic about superdelegates. It looks like France before the French revolution. Democrats just need to revolt and kick their super butts. They maybe called super but thay are'nt that tough. They claim to know who's best for us.

In 2000, the democrats were saying that it's the people's choice that should matter; and not the electoral votes. Al Gore got more votes than Bush; but Bush won due to the electoral vote majority.

If democrats elect Hillary in the convention, against the people's choice of Obama (if Obama has more pledged delegates than Hillary), then aren't they going against what they said in 2000?

I think one of them should simply give up. Because, they are both going to be negative — into texas and ohio. The more time it takes for these two to fight it out, the less time they will have to launch a strong campaign against the republicans.

Also, the campaign is becoming more childish. When you have serious issues, people talk about stealing sentences for one's speech from someone else. If you want to talk about moral issues, I think Clinton's are the last one to do that. Her husband did something inappropriate when he was in office. Where is the morality there? Is this the kind of family you want for a president?

I think the democrats should get their act together; and make sure they take the whitehouse in 2008.

Change the rules! Next time winner-take-all. Caucuses are a joke and should be replaced with real elections. McCain is in the driver's seat now.

Hey Wolf I'm A 23 Year Old That Is A Hard Working "Green Collar" Living In Orlando, FL Amongst Conservative Republicans of the south, liberals from the university of florida, and democrats of the city. It is quite the diverse area. From my talks with many people, OBAMA is on the rise here, i believe you will see OBAMA win florida very handly When it comes down to the finale. His current momentum is not stoppable even with a loss or two in the next few primaries

I think it is important for the states of Michigan and Florida to be counted but I do believe it needs to be done fairly. The issue many people have brought up is the disenfranchised voters in those states. I agree we don't want that but without redoing the primary or caucus the voters that did not go to the polls because they knew their vote would not count would also be disenfranchised which is just as wrong. Since the states new the consequences of their actions before the primaries they need to make it right with their citizens by redoing the vote.

well wolf for your information PRESIDENT BUSH IS IN GHANA NOW

I bilieve before some superdelegates shut out, Michelle Obama will be shout out. Or at least shut up.

The whims of a few people decide that entire states are not to be counted. Just goes to show how broken the electoral process is in America. Only the anointed elite of the Democratic and Repub