February 20, 2008
Posted: 03:15 PM ET

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Delegates cheer at the 2004 Democratic convention. This year their official role is under heavy scrutiny. (Photo Credit: Getty Images)

WASHINGTON (CNN)Hillary Clinton's campaign launched a new Web site Wednesday designed to convey its argument about how delegates should be counted — the campaign’s latest offensive against Barack Obama's contention that the candidate with the most pledged delegates should win the party's nomination.

The new Web site lists five of the Clinton team’s disputed views on delegates, including the ideas that Florida and Michigan's delegates should be seated at the convention despite party sanctions and that there is a "clear path" for Clinton to finish the race with more delegates than Obama.

The Web site also argues that superdelegates — or what the Clinton campaign is now calling “automatic delegates” — should not look to the primary season vote when deciding which candidate to support, stating, "The fact is: no automatic delegate is required to cast a vote on the basis of anything other than his or her best judgment about who is the most qualified to be president."

According to CNN's latest estimate, Obama has earned 143 more pledged delegates than Clinton. But Clinton currently has the support of 73 more superdelegates – which translates into an overall deficit of 70 delegates.

Speaking with reporters Wednesday morning, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe repeated the campaign's contention that the candidate with the most pledged delegates should win the nomination, and said it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up in that count.

“This is a wide, wide lead right now,” he said. “I am amused when the Clinton campaign continues to say, 'Well, it’s essentially a tie.' I mean, that’s just lunacy. We have opened up a big and meaningful pledged delegate lead. They are going to have to win landslides from here on out to erase it.”

Plouffe also said the Clinton campaign keeps "offering alternative theories for why they can win the nomination that have nothing to do with the votes that are happening in these contests.”

Related video: Watch CNN's Abbi Tatton take a look at Clinton's new Web site

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


andy   February 20th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Once again, Hillary wants to change the rules. After agreeing with the
sanctions imposed, her name was the only one on the ballot. How can she possibly declare herself a winner when everyone else did not campaign in those two states? And why didn't she try to change the party's position earlier, if she was so concerned, instead of waiting until
now. It reeks of desperate tactics.

The Obama train is about to run over the Clintons. It is time for change
and Barack Obama can deliver.

Omama Supporter   February 20th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

how petty can she get?

all votes are EQUAL and obviously this means nothing to her if she cant face that she is losing and needs the elevated vote of the superdelegate to accomplish anything.

Kshama   February 20th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

To all Obama Supporters. I agree Senator Obama has run a magnificent campaign but there will come a time when he will have to put up the numbers and substantiate his policies and explain them to the American people. Unfortunately, I do not believe Senator Obama can do this effectively yet as well as Senator Clinton can. Only time will tell, but it is looking more and more like Obama will be the Democratic nominee.

Kshama   February 20th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

The issue of seating and counting the Michigan and Florida delegates needs to be decided soon, well before the March 4th primary. Why? Two scenarios 1. Is it democracy if there is a revote by a caucus? 2. Is it democracy, if the votes are not counted based on the original primary results? If I recall no one told Obama or Edwards to take their name of the ballot in Michigan. Both of them actually chose to tell people to vote uncommitted to go against Hillary Clinton if that was their choice. This action on their parts was voluntary.
If the Democratic Committee did not intend for the votes to be counted than they should have requested these 2 states to not even allow people to vote and explain why. It is the Democratic Party who created this mess in the 1st place not Senator Obama or Clinton. And again by not allowing the delgation to have any votes at the Democratic convention or even be seated would be a grave mistake on their part. I strongly think, the Republican party will take Washington again regardless of how great Senator Obama is doing. What a shame.

Majority Rule Moral Majority   February 20th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Yea! The last time we got cought up in feel-good speeches it wound up costing us trillions in welfare monies for all kinds of government programs started in the 60s that have not and could not be stopped once the socialists created them! Wake Up America!

Dean   February 20th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

It seems that the majority want Obama to win. If the "super delegates" go against the people and make Hillary the winner the "super delegates" will soon find themselves looking for another job.

U.S. Army Vet.   February 20th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

Hillary Clinton has been hanging around the Capitol for years now and she has not accomplished anything of substantive value in her career, outside of voting for and supporting NAFTA, voting to authorize the Iraq War, voting for the Leave No Child Behind Act (Bill called it a train wreck). I do not think I need to go on.

Being first lady of Arkansas and the U.S. are not official political offices of any kind. She tried and failed with healthcare, fought for power against Al Gore during Bills terms in the Whitehouse, and moved to New York as a carpetbagger.

The only political position that Hillary Clinton held is her current position of Senator. That's it and nothing more. The majority of her adult life was spent helping Bill win political office. Check the true records.

In fact, when it comes to experience, Sen. Obama has more years of legislative experience than Hillary Clinton. Sen. Obama was an Illinois State legislator before becoming a U.S. Senator.

Finally, according to the U.S. Constitution, all U.S. citizens born in the U.S.A are eligible to become president of the U.S. It is your right as a citizen of this great country. One must be 35 yrs of age and be a U.S. citizen by birth.

There are no other requirements by law. Anything else is extraneous at best. Therefore, please educate yourself before you make ignorant and visionless comments.

david   February 20th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

the person wha has the landslide victories in 25 states so far and hopes to continue to win more states and who has the most popular votes and most delegates will not get the nomination. Is this what clinton campaign saying? is this their theory? it is funny then. let them make fun. they are making fun of votes of American people. this is further erode their credibility and help Obama to win more states.

Neil Edwin Cruz   February 20th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

The contention that the candidate with the most pledged delegates should win the nomination is just an absolute mockery on the rules of the Democrats. Whether it be Clinton or Obama leading in pledged delegates before the convention is not an issue for as long as no one of them reached the magic number of 2025. When this is the case the superdelegates should be given the chance to nominate which ever they want. Clinton and Obama agreed to this so they don't have the right wine or mock this ruling.

Eddie   February 20th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Tim Russert read a statement from hillary Clinton on Meet The Press. In the statement Hillary said that she supported the DNC decision to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates for holding thier primary early. Now, when it is to her benefit, she suddenly wants to "fight for the disenfranchised voters". This is clearly another unethical tactic from the Clintons. How can Hillary supporters condone this type of conduct?

Cali4Hillary   February 20th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

That would be Karl Rove. After rigging two previous presidential elections, this master of deceit would have us believe that he’s gone off to sit in a corner and write op-eds.
Not so. According to an article in Time Magazine, Republican party activists have been organized to throw their weight behind Barack Obama, the democratic rival of frontrunner Hillary Clinton. Early in Obama’s campaign, major G.O.P. fundraisers and at least one indicted criminal flushed his coffers with cash - something the deep pockets haven’t done for any candidate in their own party.

CNN - THE PEOPLE MUST KNOW THE TRUTH!!!

judy   February 20th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Hillary, just when I think you can't "STOOP ANY LOWER " YOU GO AND PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (SMILE)

GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry-Kernersville, NC   February 20th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Its amazing the issue of super delegates (SD) deciding the US Presidential election. Lest they forget, super delegates are elected reps of the citizenry. If the people vote the majority for a candidate its seem pretty clear whom the SD support; to support someone contrary to the will of the people is blatant arrogance, and a recipe to be voted out of office. In plain, simple speak, "Hoyle" has to prevail.

Jim, Carbondale, IL   February 20th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

It is more and more apparent that the Clintons will say and do anything to win. That's not the type of leadership we need. Does it show she is ready to lead "on day one?" To me it looks more like her team is trying to channel Machiavelli and make every possible attack, thinking that the ends justify the means. They don't. Principles matter.

mbgoldie   February 20th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

I'm from Florida and was one of the millions of democrates who went out and voted, even though our vote did not count. We should not have been punished in the first place just because we moved the primary up, big deal. What is a big deal is that our votes don't count and they should!!! Hillary won by a landslide so of course it's just common sense to try and get these votes to count. I'm sure if Obama had won in Florida, he'd be doing the same darn thing.

I for one and I feel there are many other Hillary supporters out there who feel the same way, but if Obama wins, I will not vote in November and I'm too the point I might vote of McCain. I can't see voting for a man with two years of experience and no accomplishments that one of his backers can't even talk about. No foreign policy (as bad as Bush in that dept) That's how fed up I am. I'm so turned off by the media and the negative reports about Clinton. We might as just say the media will get Omaba to be the nominee.

Thersites D. Scott   February 20th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

Does anyone know the Clinton Superdelegate website's url? It's not mentioned in the article, and I can't find it on her campaign site. Thanks!

Gillis   February 20th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

The Hillary folks had critizised Obama for spreading "false hope." It appears false hope is all the Clintons are relying on now.

Not Ready   February 20th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Obama's camp is very divisive and arrogant and that concerns me deeply for this country. Obama simply does not have the foreign experience to lead us through these troubled times. Hillary does.

Winning states like Alasaka (400 people voted), the Virgin Islands and Idaho (and there are several others) doesn't impress me.

Winning the popular vote in Florida and Michigan (even though BO's camp spent over 1 million dollars campaigning in Florida with tv ads), does impress me.

Winning a caucus in Washington where 30,000 voted doesn't impress me. Tying the popular vote where almost a million people voted — that's what I want to know about.

Obama needs to win Ohio and Pennsylvania before he can prove that he can win the general. I think you will find that he won't win either one and will lose by significant margins.

In the popular vote, they are almost tied. Hillary's camp needs to make the people aware of this.

Ron   February 20th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Everyone,

Please be sure that the people of Ohio, Texas and Penn, etc. see this.

All the voters need to see that HRC's campaign is trying to manipulate the process and voter's will. This is win all costs tactics and her campaign shoudl have figured out by now that the voter does not like these tactsics.

They will do waht ever they can to rewrite the rules.

If you look in the cictionary under fair you find a antonym "Clinton"

If her campaign would just concentrate on the positives she might have a chance, this negative stuff has not worked yet and in all likleyhood will not work again.

She needs to decide whether or not to go down in a blaze or at least with some dignity. Right now its gettign pretty hot and on the verge of exploding!

t-bone   February 20th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Hillary, do you have any positive ideas of your own for our country or is your only game trying to bring Obama down?

I'm a registered Democrat but if Hillary uses Superdelegates, Mich & Florida to take the nomination, I WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN.

JIMMY   February 20th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

Hillary is like a tree falling in the woods with no one around. It falls and makes a loud noise, sadly, no one is around to hear it fall

linda   February 20th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

This is not political discourse it's pop culture, and terribly reactionery, based on news "cycles". This is about the next Leader of the Free world,the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world, I would imagine it should be taken a bit more seriously….

Jonathan in Chicago   February 20th, 2008 2:58 pm ET

This latest tactic further demonstrates the Clintons' arrogance, profound entitlement, and disrespect for the electorate. They do not care how they secure the nomination, only that they do secure nomination. This reveals the kind of race she run, the ethics she will have as both candidate and (should she somehow win against McCain) as President.

If she and President Clinton are willing to rewrite the rules previously agreed to, and to encourage 'super delegates' (now spun as 'automatic') to ignore the will of the people, then how will they serve the American people as President? What kind of hubris must one have to pursue so cynical and self-serving a course of action? How can we seriously abide such behavior from a candidate?

Forget whether you support Clinton or Obama for a moment — this is greed and ambition gone awry, and such lust for power and position in past Presidents has only ended poorly (Nixon comes to mind.) Clinton may have a great deal to offer her country, but if she believes that she knows better than her country, and that her country is unfit to make the choice of nominee for ourselves, she has crossed a line and done harm to a tradition that many have sacrificed much for since the beginnings of our nation.

Shame on Clinton. Stop this and allow the Vote and Voice of the People to be heard.

MS KITTI   February 20th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

WE,THE PEOPLE! WE,THE PEOPLE!
LET'S DO THIS RIGHT….
MICHELLE SAID, FOR THE FIRST TIME "IN MY ADULT LIFE", I AM PROUD OF MY COUNTRY.

YOU SAID, FOR THE FIRST TIME "IN MY ADULT LIFE", I AM PROUD OF MY SON REPORT CARD…….DON'T GET IT TWISTED!!!!
THE REPUBLICAN HAS TO BIGGER FISH TO FRY…REMEMBER, THEY NEED A NOMINEE FOR AUGUST 25-28TH…THEY DO NO WANT HILLARY, MCCAIN OR HUCKABEE…..THEY WILL VOTE FOR MR. PRESIDENT, 2009 (BARACK OBAMA). YOU SEE, WE,THE PEOPLE WILL NOT PLAY WITH THIS ELECTION…IT WILL NOT BE STOLEN BY THIEVES…AND WE WILL NOT GIVE IT AWAY!!!

BARACK OBAMA CAN BE AN INDEPENDENT PRESIDENT, ASK RON PAUL….AIN'T NO STOPPING US NOW!!

WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE ""UNITED"" STATES…….

Sacha   February 20th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

RULES ARE RULES!
The next comander chief should be able to acknowledge that !

What is she going to do if she becomes president? Modify every rule that doesn't suit her advantage ?

carol   February 20th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

What a bozo that Obama is. He don't even recall that he was not in the Senate when they voted on the Iraq war, but he sure has voted to fund this war. You people who say he didn't vote on the war, I suppose he didn't, why not ask him why has he voted so many times to fund it. He would probably say I pushed the wrong button and didn't mean to. Give me a break. You all should go back and research his racist church he goes to. It is racism against whites. Wake up America. Democrat that will be voting for McCain if Obama is on the ticket.
HaVE YOU ALL NOTICED THE MEDIA IS STARTING TO GET WITH IT AND ASKING ABOUT HIS RECORD. HOPE THEY DO THE SAME TO HIM AS THEY DID HILLARY. SEE HOW YOU ALL LIKE THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT. CAN't WAIT.
HILLARYorMcCAIN

tony jackson   February 20th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

Barack names Hillary and Bill the Co-Presidents of Florida. Hillary must work the night shift.

Stephen   February 20th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

These are all tell-tale signs of a desperate candidate, a collapsiing campaign. What a sore loser she is turning out to be - and her husband is to be partially blamed.

"Why can't you just get it through your head, it's over, it's over." - Boz Scaggs

Avis C, Richton Park,IL   February 20th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

THANK YOU MEGAN!!!! WELL SAID!!!!

Michelle Obama shouldn't have to explain anything! This country is always up in arms the minute you say anything they say is "unpatriotic". What happen to the 1st amendment? As a black woman, for her having a black man and a woman run for president is a huge deal for her lifetime, noting she and other americans didn't think this would happen in their lifetime. As a 37 year old woman myself I understand what she meant. However we make a mole hill out of a mountain about everything in this country. People are called unpatriotic for being against the war, because they say you don't support the troops if you're against the war. This is the dumbest thing I have ever herd of, or at least one of the dumbest things. You can support the troops while being against the war. Bush was for the war, but sent the troops there under false pretenses and with no armor. Before Republicans start to criticize Michelle Obama, they better prepare to take some themselves. Lord knows there's plenty to go around!

YES WE CAN!!!!!! OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES WE WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert   February 20th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The Clinton campaign needs to see that their argument to count MI and FL makes them look like snakes. Nobody ran in these campaigns, how could they be counted? Why not let there be opinion polls from the Republicans count for some delegates too??? This is rediculous. Here is the big statement that everyone (party officials, campaign admins, ect) should hear: the only way to count MI and FL is to have a new primary in each state with all candidates that were on the ballot at the time of their original primaries on the ballot. That's the only acceptable answer to a fair addition of these states. Otherwise, THEY ARE OUT. Period.
Robert from CT

zer0   February 20th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Does anyone know the URL of the website? There is no mention of it in the article or on her website? I wanted to look at it.

TEXAS Mike   February 20th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Desperate Times call for Desperate Measures. She reminds of those little kids that daddy always gives them what they want. She will cry and cry until she is happy.

Marco   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Is Really Funny that the Obama campaing thinks is winning because of "Change" when are you Democrats going to open your eyes that the Republicans are voting in this primaries as Democrats just so that Hillary can loose, and by doing so setting up the weakest Democrat candidate (Obama) against Mc.Cain just so they can keep the White House and win in November. No changing of rules right, thats fine but is also pathetic that the Obama Campaing has been trying very hard to change the rules in the middle of the game. Delegates can vote any way they want!!!

Jim, Burlington   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Hmmm, let's see.

Obama was behind Hillary by 2% - 5% points and never campaigned in Wisconsin, then she decides to actually visit the state and run attack adds, the result being Clinton looses to Obama in Wisconsin by almost 15% points.

Nice campaign tactics, seems to me someone who gets it so wrong predicting and judging the campaign is not someone I want to trust with their finger on the Nuke button.

Ready day one - with bad judgment.

Elizabeth Antonucci   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

The American people are again making a big mistake with backing Obama. What's the proof that American voters are not too swift. Well, they elected George Bush two time before they realized that he just can't cut the cake. It appears the American people pick candidates like they buy the lattest fad on the market. They are followers and not independent thinkers. Hillary has it! Hillary has the knowledge, the skills and experience to get the job done. Obama's plan is to talk his way to sucess. Don't think that will work with the Republicians in the real word. Maybe in Obama's dreems. Come on people, lets get the job done and elect Hillary Clinton. For once, vote with your mind and not your emotions.

Gerard, Tampa   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Enough hillary, floridans including me broke the rules. If you thought we should be seated, you should have taken that position in the beginning.

You won here only because of name recognition…support another primary or caucus and see what happens? Same for Michigan, you think its fair you get the delegates when obama and edwards werent even on the ballot???

Apparently the clintons will do anything to win :(

Arlene NY   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

If Obama truly believes that the delegates and not the Super Delegates should decide
the Democratic Presidential nomination then why has he been outspending Clinton in the Super Delegate Buying game?
A New England newspaper article released the findings of a study that showed that Obama's political action committee has doled out more than $694,000 to super delegates since 2005, and of the 81 who had announced their support for Obama, 34 had received donations totaling $228,000.
The same study found that Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to super delegates, and only 13 of the 109 who had announced for her have received money, totaling about $95,000. This is why I question Obama’s 180 degree turn about the Super Delegates not getting involved.. He played and paid into the game. But now that he’s the frontrunner and he wants to dismiss the Super Delegates.This is sooo wrong on sooo many levels.

Texasboo   February 20th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Desperation and pettiness on the road to the White House? What a great way to unite the Dem party, turn off thousands of new voters, and disenfrancise voters who have spoken for their choice.

Not a very presidential woman as Commander in Chief. And this is called having substance? Really Sen Clinton?

Sen. Clinton, you knew the rules going in to BOTH Michigan and Florida and you still clain VICTORY? Really? You NOW care about the voters of those states you "won" yet you never acknowledge the states you lost?

TEXAS for OBAMA

Anonymous   February 20th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

I have listen to these candidates and they are virtually even on the issues, everyone is so inspired by Obama and act like he is some kind of rock star, comparing him to JFK, well he is a new face like JFK, but do we really know what kind of President JFK would have been, he was not here long enough to make even a full term, and if he were here today would he not be part of the establishment and certainly have plenty of so called baggage. Obama is promising that he will reach across party lines, but that will mean give and take so what issues is he willing to compromise on to achieve this. People do not seem to realize that he just a politician like all the rest, just younger. The media seem to be really promoting him. Every time Bill or Hillary say anything negative it is considered to be racist, but if Obama or his wife make a statement it is just a mistake and taken out of content. Still can not see what the Clintons said that was racist. A big deal is being made about releasing their tax returns, why do I care what they are we all know they are rich and Bush gives them all the breaks I don't kneed to see their return, just interested in mine. If Obama gets the nomination will may be in for a rude awakening.

Cali4Hillary   February 20th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Obama is fake…an empty suit and nothing else!!

Hillary has 'REAL" solutions. Whacth out Obamalites…. we are barely in the 3rd quarter of the game. Hillary will prevail becuase she is the right choice for the American people.

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROUD AMERICANS…ALL 29 YEARS OF THEM!!!! NUFF SAID.

Michelle corrected her speech after the fact….Lol!!! Ooopss!! Did I just say that?? Yep…you did!!

GOOOO HILLARY!!!!!

Stacy   February 20th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

She should give up the delegates of those states she said that don't matter. You know.. all those that Obama won. Isn't stating a whole population of a state doesn't matter disenfranchise all of the voters??

Honesty_not Hillary   February 20th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

HonestyNotHillary

Cynthia St. Louis   February 20th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

It is scary and sad to see "the Clintons" self destruct in this way.

They have certainly lost sight of what this race is all about. Hopefully, someone will step in and stop this madness.

Losing is hard, but it doesn't have to be blind.

Tim Randolph   February 20th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

TAA: Really? Are you a black woman in today's America? Have you heard her comments in context? Geesh. Get over it. By the way, Bill happens to be a former President, as well as a professional speaker. As a gun toting, God-fearing, father of five in Arkansas who is white and enjoys fishing and hunting; I am proud to say I support Barack Obama.

People should be heard!!   February 20th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

People of Michigan (600000) and Florida(1.75 million) should be heard. Delegates should be seated. The people from these states should not be ignored. It is unfair!!

Dallas-Fort Worth, TX   February 20th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

A message to Hilliary Clinton……

I was on the fence between in this whole debate, but after your non acknowledgement of your voters/supporters from my former home state of Wisconsin last night. I was really ticked off!!!

At least stand up and say - I lost but for those of you that heard and supported my message. Thank You!!!

That showed me a lot. I have always supported the Clinton philosophy but I'm sorry this campaign has brought out the worst in you and your husband.

I'm now a proud resident of Texas and I will vent my frustration by voting for Obama!!!

Obama '08 - Undecided NO MORE!!!!

Antonio   February 20th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

It is a sad day in America when people vote for pop stars instead of a candidate that can get the job done–and done well.

Raum   February 20th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

She's showing her true colors

pbj   February 20th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Can't wait 'til Hillary tries her next stunt — trying to change the rules of the game to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates at the convention.

Michael D. Hafer   February 20th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

TAA:

Watch her comments. Her phraseology was clumsy, but she was saying she was more proud of her country than before because of the hugely positive response to her husband's campaign (he being a man of mixed race). And you know what? I agree with her! It's entirely possible to be more proud of your country when it is showing signs of actually fulfilling Martin Luther King Jr's dream. The year after 9/11 made me less proud of my country as the drum up to the Iraq War was taking place. I saw my country go down the path of so many frightened children instead of taking a stand for courage. We've climbed back out of that hole and I am prouder of my country for it. It's time, in November, to get back on track and to be the country we are capable of being.

Sharon from Michigan   February 20th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Hillary's devotion to the state of Michigan and Florida is for self-preservation. If the election were re-done today, I'm not so sure she would win either one. People are becoming familiar with Barack Obama and what he stands for. Hillary has been trying to come up with a slogan, since the beginning of her campaign. How about this one, "For Hillary the Presidency is out of range because Barack Obama stands for "Change". .

hold a sec   February 20th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

TAA what are you talking about, she clarified her remarks, that was not what she meant. Apparently you have always been 100% clear to all of those around you when you speak…never made a mistake huh?

The difference here is Bill Clinton has been in politics for 40 years and should know better. Michelle Obama is new to this and will learn that even your mistakes counts….give her a break, in 40 years I bet she won't be making the same verb

lets be real here   February 20th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

What Hillary Clinton supporters must realize is that…if she is losing this many contest in the primary, in all these states that she should have easily won it means she just isn't that strong of a Canidate for the General.

10 states in a ROW? This should not be happening if Clinton is the best bet to win the General Election. Even if it is 'okay' for her to lose this amount of states in a row, she still shouldn't be losing by this wide margin of defeat.

People simply will not vote for the Clintons in the General. America is showing you that. Some of these states she should be winning hands down…especially against a new comer like Obama.

As Democrats we just got to go with the best chance to win in the General, so far Obama is that person. C'mon guys put aside your anger and devote it to the party that deserves it…the Republicans.
Lets unite and focus our energy into defeating J. McCain and the Bush administraion.

Go Obama, Go Democrats in 08

Nando, Florida   February 20th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

If this were to happen Denver would look like NERO"S ROME!!!!!!!!

narayan   February 20th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

here we go again; goodlooks charm image oratory no substance, reallife needs realsolutions for the problems facing the country not yes we can. we have made mitakes twice; what the heck one moretime; GOD SAVE US.

Cali4Hillary   February 20th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

LOL!!!! LOL!!!! Any of the Obaramas want to give it a try??
The answer was easy…. zero accomplishments!!!

The interview in question was with Tubbs Jones and Texas State Sen. Kirk Watson on MSNBC Tuesday night. Host Chris Matthews asked Watson, a supporter of Obama, to name the Illinois senator's chief legislative accomplishments.

"Well, I am not going to be able to name you specific items of legislative accomplishment," Watson said.

Asked if it was a problem he was unable to name any of Obama's accomplishments, Watson said, "Well no I don't think it is. Because I think one of the things that Sen. Obama does is he inspires. He's able to lay out a vision, he's able to lay out solutions."

Denise   February 20th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

"The fact is: no automatic delegate is required to cast a vote on the basis of anything other than his or her best judgment about who is the most qualified to be president."

Which essentially means the will of the people doesn't matter…

NickNasc   February 20th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Can one of you McCain or Hillary people PLEASE explain to me how Obama Can't beat McCain???? Just Last night more people voted for him in the freezing cold than voted for ALL of the Republican Candidates COMBINED by a Couple of HUNDRED THOUSAND Votes??? It has been like that almost everywhere.

PLEASE Share your " Logic " with us! Am I missing somthing??

If you can't, Stop the BS and do the Math!

People of California   February 20th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

Oh Hillary! Can't win the delegates you need, steal them! This doesn't surprise me. When will the last few hundred of her supporters realize what a horrible choice she is.

LadyVoter   February 20th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

The real problem is the way the democrats elect people to run. The caucus system is totally unfair. Look at the unbinding primary vote on 2-19-08. It is a dead heat between Clinton and Obama but the caucus held in Washington on earlier this month gave Obama a landslide. If it were all primaries and no caucuses then Clinton would be winning. The party leadership is already controlling who wins by the caucus process, never mind the superdelagates.

Truth   February 20th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

don't let GOPs steal the GE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

B.H.O. go home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron, TX   February 20th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

It really all just depends on what your definition of "delegate" is…

Typical Clintons, Typical politics…

Florida and Michigan suit her now, so she's going against her word and signed pledge for them not to count. She didn't seem to care back in March when she thought she was going to sail to victory…

Gmoney   February 20th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Yes, anyone who asks what Obama has accomplished is either flapping their gums to keep warm, or has never searched the Library of Congress to see bills sponsored by Obama.

thomas (dot) loc (dot) gov. The form is right there on the front page, it takes 2 minutes.

Maybe then you'll stop squawking "What has he done? What has he done? What has he done?" like a darn parrot.

Zack From Murfreesboro, tn   February 20th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

I don't get why hilary wants those delegates to be seated. They were not going to be seated in the first place and she went and campaigned there. It was an agreement that no one was going to go there and she did. She is sneaky and had this plan from the beginning. That is why obama just won his 10th state in a row!

OBAMA 08

Gary   February 20th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

This smells all the way to Canada. I'm really embarrased for Clinton right now and I think she really needs to be thinking beyond the primary to the way she is going to be remembered as the first strong female candidate for President.

Does she want to be remembered as the candidate who argued that primary results should be counted when only her name was on the ballot? - think about it Hillary.

Derek from WA State   February 20th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

It is time for the likes of Edwards, Dean, Pelosi and Gore to put their foot down on the Clinton campaign. The Clintons have been predictable from the very beginning from their narrow focus on delegate rich states to their arrogance that they were the only viable candidate.
If she persists and somehow hijacks this nomination she won't be getting my vote and she most definitely won't win the general election.

Tom   February 20th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

It should be up to the Nat. Democratic Party to decide……after all it's their party. IF they want to run it like a dictatorship, well then so be it.
Unfortunately, the Clinton's think it's their party and they are the dictators. But really, IF Barrack really has the cahunnas, then he should definately consider droping out of the race If the Clinton's got their way and run as an independent………wouldn't that be interesting?

Michael D. Hafer   February 20th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

"Automatic Delegates"???

Hillary's campaign is seriously derailing. They not only are trying to make up rules, they are now making up terminology. The national press needs to stop following her off a cliff like lemmings. Do NOT use her "automatic delegates" term (what the hell does it even mean or what's it supposed to convey??). The term is "superdelegates." Her campaign and despicable Howard Wolfson are attempting to control the media once again.

"He who controls the language of the debate controls the debate."

Enough of Karl Rove politics.

Becky G   February 20th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

With all due respect Senator Obama, he does not have the experience to be the president of this country. Hillary Clinton does. What will he do if another 9/11 occurs? I'm scared that voters are not thinking this through and reacting to the hype of his speeches. Maybe if elected, he will prove me wrong. I hope he does. I see jealousy on the half of Michelle Obama and her husband. More displayed in earlier interviews than now that he is getting somewhere. It was like she resented the attention he was gerting. She had to keep him in his place! Anyone else pick up on that in her earlier interviiews?

E J Eicher   February 20th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

The idea that Mrs. Clinton would like to change the rules half way through the candidate selection process is absurd and a prime example of why she will lose my vote to Barack Obama in the Kentucky Primary. Perhaps the next rule she will want to change is eliminating the election laws, and she can just appoint her self Queen Clinton.

rudy turtle   February 20th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

A Man like JFK or Martin Luther jr comes only once in awhile and Barack Obama is that kind of man. I have been listening to him carefully even though I am Canadian.

Americans would be foolish not to vote for him, for this man has a gift, a calling, someone special. A great man

Vern   February 20th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

What a desperate woman! LOSER!!

Just concede Hillary - try and hold onto that last bit of dignity!

Gwen   February 20th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

The man who is dominated by his wife wants to be out new Commander-in-Chief and be the leader of the free world?

jim - chicago, illinois   February 20th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Superdelegates should not look to the primary season vote? In other words, ignore the will of the people? An act of severe desperation, if you ask me!
~~~
Hillary Clinton's attempt to spin "superdelegate" into "automatic delegate" is just a page from the old Clinton playbook. Remember the statement "that depends on what your definition of is is."? A Clinton by any other name would smell as rotten.

Alecki   February 20th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

I want Universal Health Care!!!!!!!!!

Stop with Obama.

I want Universal Health Care!!!!!!!!!
I guess Obama supporters would rather not have any?

Stop with the Pep Rally

Start with voting issues.

CNN only covers comments…He said ..she said……
It's rediculous

That's why Bush is in office now

JMerten   February 20th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Anyone actually have the web address for this website Clinton just put up?

Emy   February 20th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

Clintons..go ahead.. rewrite the laws…Do everything that you can to crawl on to Power…

You are underestimating the thrist for change among the people. How could you ignore losing with wide margins in 10 States- consecutively !!!

The more 'tactics' you use to win the faster your defeat will be… People are coming to the realization that anyone is better than the Clintons..Wisconsin proves that!

S   February 20th, 2008 2:40 pm ET

RULES ARE RULES!!!!
Our next comander in chief should be able to acknowledge that !

So what is she going to do when she becomes president ? modify every rule that doesn't suit her advantage ?

Alice   February 20th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

What ever it takes, is that it Hillary? The Clintons will destroy the Democrat Party in their efforts to get into the WH. Afterall, it's ALL ABOUT THEM!!!

Phil   February 20th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Say anything, do anything to get elected. Pathetic. Hillary.. go back to being a senator until your next term when New Yorkers will elect someon else.

Ben (Boston, MA)   February 20th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Doesn't this bother anyone that the nomination of the Democratic Party candidate is no longer "democratic"? Shouldn't the choice of the candidate be left to the voters? Wasn't that this Party's exact position in 2000?

So, come on, prove to us that "Democratic" is not just a word in the party's name. Make this about the people, for the people. Eliminate the superdelegates system and pick the candidate solely based on the popular vote.

KLM   February 20th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

I did like Bill in the 90's and I even respected Hillary even though her healthcare plan failed. However, the first couple of times she cried turned me off and I'm a woman. If Bush cried in public we would rip him apart. I just couldn't imagine our potential Commander and Chief tearing up over something trivial. Now, 911 was a time to cry. Since then, she and her husband's attacks seem to be malicious and personal instead of "factual". I wish to get away from the negative campaigning. Then to top it off she can't run/control her campaign!!!! I surely can't trust you to be president then. If she gets the nomination, I will regrettably vote for McCain. (I've really tried to listen to hisd speeches but they put me to sleep).

Hillary, don't bring down the Democratic Party.

Truth   February 20th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

What's left with B.H.O.? Even his empty words are not his own!!!

This fake is the biggest joke in a century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MBG   February 20th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Since the American people are speaking loud and clear, it behooves the delegates, superdelegates and whatever else Clinton now is calling them to listen.

Mrs. Clinton - are you listening?

Republican for Obama   February 20th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

It just goes to show how Clinton cares more about winning the power of the Presidency then about the will of her own party members and the American citizens. As a Republican who can sacrifice many beliefs for this countries chance to have a great leader like Obama, I would think that a fellow Democrat like Hillary would be able to set aside her own selfishness for the good of her country and her party, but I guess she just doesn't really care about that.

Obamacan, NC

kathleen, illinois   February 20th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

No matter what, Hillary cannot change the votes of
the people. A new website specifically to argue about
how she can change this election to benefit her by
getting people to feel sorry for her. or for the supers-
delagetes to change their minds about helping her
to win this election. I went the the DNC list of super-
delagetes and it certainly lists them state by state.
But, on the very top it states that some superdelegates
wish for their vote to remain unpublished. Why?
What about transparancy in a fair race for presidency?

koloulupamba   February 20th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

once more GOD as chosen his candidate .BARACK OBAMA

Tom Wittmann   February 20th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

OUTRAGEOUS !!

It is now clear that Hillary is provoking single handed the loss of
the presidency to McCain !!

Therefore: CHEAT and NOT win !!

TOM

Bryan the white male   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

I'll say this. There are a lot of young first time voters this year. If Hillary's group gets their way and re-seat Michigan and Florida, it will not only destroy the Democratic Party, but taint the election process in this country as a whole. For some reason I think she knows this and maybe just doesn't care.

Rob   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

If Hillary gets this in smoke-filled rooms and cheats the majority of voters you might as well hand the election to McCain now. It will be over. The Democrats will be split for years and we will have another 4 years of war and incompetence. What Hillary is up to now disqualifies her from the Presidency as far as I am concerned. I am switching to Obama.

Alecki   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

To ALL American Democrats:

Please stop with Obama as a leader of the Presidential race. He is going to be eaten alive by the Republicans.

Hillary is use to the abuse. Obama has no history of any senate accomplishments and has been tied with a criminal in Chicago.
He really is great for a minister or rally but when he talks he has little to say.
That's the truth. The truth hurts. But if you really want health care to cover all Americans and international peace, stop knocking Hillary and start supporting her.
Let him be vice president learn the ropes, and then run for president.

It really makes sence to me.

This is a job interview not a pep rally.

Please stop yelling for change. We all want change in our government. Start yelling "solutions"

Jack   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

HILLARY CLINTON SAYS SHE IS FOR SOLUTIONS.
FOR SURE, THE BEST SOLUTION IS COLD-SHOULDERING OLD POLITICS.

gary   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Barack Obama whose smooth glib tongue is wooing young people with idealism and unrealistic promises. Obama also knows that. this candidate has never done a single thing in his one year as a US senator. It baffles me to try to understand how this person can think that he is able to govern our country while propounding that he would do away with most of the military and security in our nation. I am also perplexed how Obama could vote not to continue our telephone surveilance of terrorists. In one year this egodriven candidate has racked up a voting record that makes him even more liberal than Ted Kennedy.

marge   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

It's insane!!!! Hillary is soooo desperate! Does she really think this will work???? Does she really think the DNC will allow her to steal the nomination????

avm   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

If Obama wins I will become a Republican and vote for John McCan. This country needs experience over dreams right now and it is unfortunate that a lot of moderate Democrats like myself will become Republicans if Clinton does not win….

Pointing out the truth - not negative!   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

How is pointing out the truth negative?

Texas - Ohio - Pennsylvania and all the remaining states:

Senator Obama is willing to disenfranchise millions of voters (Michigan and Florida) for his own political gain!

Senator Obama is proposing millions be left uninsured under his proposal and saying that Senator Clintons will garnish wages…read hers for yourself - get informed. He is misrepresenting her proposed policy!!!!

Senator Obama has personalities like Oprah stomping for him with comments like 'he is one of us' thereby creating a devisive Democratic Party.

Senator Obama does not represent the policies of the Democratic Party!

And for those who think Senator Obama did a great Economic speech………may I please refer you to Senator Clintons Economic package proposals of August 2007 and December 2007 - eeeccckkksss and 'opps, he did it again'………

took the stuff right from Senator Clinton! Playing 'follow the leader' again……..Senator Clinton is the leader!

Anyone who does not believe me - go read it for yourselfs! Get informed - not just one sided! One sided always means that everyone has actually missed the other side. One sided means that no one has any basis to compare. One sided means that the choice to remain one sided is just plain dumb! Get smart…vote smart…vote on issues not hollow words!

onenibble   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is not what the votes in Florida & Michigan are about. Every vote of the people should be counted.

Clinton is Right   February 20th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

Yes. Delegates should be seated from FL and Michigan. Otherwise it is not fair to people of Florida and Michigan. Leaders should act quickly on this matter. The voices of 600,000 Michigan primary voters and 1.75 million Florida primary voters should be heard. The People of FL and MI should not be ignored. It is very important in this race

Praetorian, Ft. Myers, FL   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Fair is fair!!

You should support the decisions of your political party my dear.
Don't turn into a muckraker…..

Sacha   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Maybe if Hillary Clinton started to focus on promoting her policies instead of constantly attacking Obama, she would get more votes.

As for the Florida and Michigan delegates, it's funny how she didn't feel the need to advocate for "their voices the be heard" before february 5th when she tought she was going to win!

The way her campain has been turning out is just DESPERATE and PATHETIC.

Summerville, SC   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

I think it's very funny how Obama's people want "the voice of the people" to be heard and to determine the nominee through pledged delegates considering how they also want to conveniently ignore the voices of the 900,000 people who voted for Clinton in FLORIDA. How's THAT for integrity? Keep the faith, Hillary!!

Joshua Helms   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

I am not surprised. You can see right through her and her camp.

Netta Young   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Well Hilary is PUBLICLY asking the DNC to change their rules to suit her! WHAT NERVE!!! Get a grip Hil its over!!

1 last note, if the Michigan and Florida delegates get seated i want another primary here in Michigan. We were forced to vote uncommitted because we didn't follow DNC rules. We should have another chance with all candidates on the bloot and see who will come out on top.

**knew alot of prople that didnt vote cause Obama was not on the ballot**

Goodheart   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Hundreds of thousands of Florida voters will not have a say…. the Democratic National Committee cannot just take away their votes. Obama was on the ballot, yet he lost Florida by hundreds of thousands of votes. Let's give those delegates to Hillary and re-do Michigan and see how far ahead they are.

P.S. I'm a life-long Democrat voting for McCain if Obama gets the nomination.

Reality   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Fork - Hillary - Done

She can't possibly win the election based on popular votes. Instead, she is now hoping for backroom machinations to be the candidate. But if that happens, the Democratic party will split asunder and McCain will cruise to victory.

Soldiergal   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Look, folks…
If you really are Democrats, do you really think staying in Iraq for the next 100 years is the best way to respond no matter who wins our nomination? Truthfully? Threatening to vote for McCain is well and good but do you want your children or grandchildren to wind up fighting for oil, or bombing Iran, or any of the rest of it?

No matter how we feel, Obama or Clinton, we're going to have to suck it up in November and get our act together, or we'll wind up with 8 more years of Bush/McCain. Let's not be a party of sore losers.

And, yes, I've posted this comment on a couple of the blog articles. We all need to think seriously about the future and drive on, not wallow in tearing both of these campaigns down before the Republicans try to do so. Don't give McCain or the futile efforts of Nader an opportunity to ruin the Democratic bid for the White House.

jc   February 20th, 2008 2:34 pm ET

Hillary Clinton should bow out gracefully now while she still has credibility and the respect of faithful Democrats. The longer she campaigns, the worse she looks to voters and her own supporters.

linda   February 20th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Actually its the media that wants the coronation during the primaries. We do have an election for president in november. People need to settle down a bit and reflect. This is about the next leader of the free world and the most poerful Militay. Wake Up.

An Agnostic Democrat   February 20th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Desperate people do desperate things. Please take the time to readjust the queen's tinfoil crown; it's been tilting more and more, state by state, delegate by delegate, vote by vote and she's looking more pathetic by the moment.

MB   February 20th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Good point JS…too much bashing on her end and not focusing on the issues…huge turnoff….

Dave, Atlanta, GA   February 20th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

Clinton doesn't get it. This is the bottom line. She can argue about what's right al she wants, but if she fails to get a majority of pledged delegates, and only gets the nomination because of the superdelegate vote, she will almost certainly lose the general election. You do not want over 40 percent of democratic voters feeling the election was stolen from them. You do not want black voters to feel that there was a conspiracy within the upper reaches of the democratic party to steal the nomination from Obama. And unfortunately, that is how it will play. If Clinton wants the nomination she will have to do well it Ohio and Texas and at least come close to Obama in pledged delegates. It may be messed up, but it's political reality.

JT   February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

So this is what Hillary would want for the American people???

She would want the superdelegates to IGNORE the popular vote in order for her to win AGAINST the majority of american peoples' decisions.

She once had my vote.. she lost that. Then she at least had my respect, but she's losing that quickly as well. This is pathetic.

Our future president   February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Great job, Obama! Obama stole something from McCain during his speech in Houston last night. He showed a bracelet worn by a soldier who got killed in Iraq. Obama claimed that it's given to him by the soldier's mom.. How touching?!
It's funny. I remember clearly that few days ago, McCain was showing a bracelet he's wearing during a speech and said that it was given to him by a deceased soldier's mom and said how proud he was to the soldiers who died for our country..
Obama did it again, borrowed something from other people speech again!! He is so good at borrowing from other people. How inspiring!!

semajh   February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Hillary needs to give it up, and cnn needs to stop promoting her agenda. For all the talk of the media treating her unfairly, if Obama had got avalanched in 10 straight contest the media would have been written him off. What's fair is fair. The media needs to stop making excuses for Hillary. Here it is a day after Hillary got blown out again and i cant even find two positive articles about Obama. I am a white male but i must say that if Obama was not black and he had won like he is winning, the media would have declared him the democratic nominee by now.

Steve   February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Aren't there rules already in place? If so then I'd expect both candidates to follow the rules. Presidential candidates should demonstrate adherence to the fundamental and essential principle of the rule of law. Whether in regard to party rules or the law of the land the principle is the same and should be a demonstrable character trait of any Presidential candidate. If it is not then that candidate does not deserve the office. In my eyes this is a test of both of them.

Stonenchizel   February 20th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

It sure is funny how Clintons machine keeps moving back the goal post, it just makes me think she will do the exact same thing with the war in Iraq, since she has not been able to give a definitive answer to when she will have the troops out. It kinda makes me sad to she her stoop to such republican style of campaigning, sorry Hillary but you are just a little to negative for me.

Obama support in Iowa   February 20th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

The people are speaking in a loud and clear voice and NO ONE can override the will of the people without serious consequences. If Hillary would concede that fact and step down, she would be an icon and role model we all would admire and support from now on. If she continues on the path she's on she will lose the respect and admiration of the majority of democrats.

The Commentator   February 20th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

More desperation from the Clinton Campaign. Now, she's trying to change the rules regarding seating Michigan and Florida delegates, after she agreed with those rules. Talk about flip-flopping. Do we, as a nation, really want a President who will change the rules to suit his/her agenda? Haven't we had eight years of this crap from Bush?

Gerald   February 20th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

This style of politics just isn't going to work, were all smarter then all these petity tactics the Clinton campaign is trying to pull off. A win is a win, and a strong candidate is a strong candidate no matter how much you try to spin it otherwise. Unfortunately this is exactly whats wrong with Washington right now, and we as Americans are in the end the biggest losers in all of this. Please keep it clean, fair, and positive Hillary!

JoAnne Allen   February 20th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

In regard to Obama's backer boching interview question, that in itself was awkward, but Hillary's comments just add to the distain that voters now have for her. She is entering political suicide when looking for flaws in someone who is adored by so many. It certainly does not help her cause. She is now a looser and doesn't know how to handle it. Backing out gracefully is just not in her make-up and speaking of make-up, someone help her, please!

King   February 20th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

I am sorry, but why didn't HRC and especially the people of Florida and Michigan go after the elected officials who wanted the primaries sooner. Those are the people who should be held responsible this situation. Wouldn't they have like Super Tuesdaay rather than having their votes not counted. GO after Sen. Nelson and the Gov of MI.

CPrescott   February 20th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

I remain thunderstruck at the way the Obama camp successfully embraces rules which operate to their benefit (disenfranchisement of Florida) and discard rules which do not (rights of non-pledged delegates to vote as they choose). The Democratic party nomination rules allows non-pledged delegates to vote according to their will. Team Obama has not complained about such rules until recently and has craftily placed an incendiary spin on the matter, shrieking that the will of the people should not be undone by 'rules'. Then why let the 'rules' undo the will of Florida's voters? Obama was present on the ballot in Florida. He lost. The claim that the contest was unfair because he couldn't advertise is hollow and absurd. Today's technology allows for countless resources by which thinking voters can and do hear the candidates. To trot out the 'rules' in this instance violates the fist-raising For the People politics which is handily exploited by the Obama campaign when and as they choose.
Shame on the press for their giddy celebrity worship. Shame on all you bandwagon Obama zealots who cling religiously to your idol when common sense dictates this character is merely the most calculating of all politicians.

Mark in Wichita   February 20th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

This is just getting sad. She is doing nothing but hurting the Democratic party at this point. If she thinks that she has a reasonable and significant shot at the nomination still, she is either deluded or simply doesn't care that she is simply attacking reality. Either way, that's good reason to not let her be president.

Stephen   February 20th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Hillary needs to quit, if the tables were turned everyone would be asking Obama to get out. The national press corps would have long abandoned Obama. Hillary thinks she's special. She is not. She is losing, She cannot catch up and most people expect her to try cheap dirty tricks. This is exactly why we don't need the Clinton's 8 more years. (Then Jeb for 8 more). Americans are waking up to her Bilderburg tactics. (Wikipedia-The group's secrecy and its connections to power elites has provided fodder for many who believe that the group is part of a conspiracy to create a New World Order.)
Remember, Bill and Bush 41 always running around globetrotting. Bush 41 always proclaiming 1000 points of light and new world order. Bill raming NAFTA down our thorats. If we elect Hillary we will never be free!

George from Minneapolis   February 20th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

She will go to any lenghts to win. Obama was right when he said she would say anything and do anything to get elected.

The longer she is in the race, the more desperate she appears and the more the american people are turned off by her.

Why doesn't she see that ???

Patrick   February 20th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Even if Florida and Michigan were seated, that still wouldn't be enough for Hillary to win or even close the delegate gap. Her campaign is over, it's finished, it's all over but the crying. There's a lesson to be learned here Senator Clinton: Don't underestimate the importance of small states.

Also, what two-faced tactics to agree to Michigan and Florida being stripped of their delegates and then supporting their return only when it benefits you. Sorry Michigan/Florida but anyone who falls for that deserves what they get.

DrFill   February 20th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

She AGREED to not count those states.
She signed documents, it was not a pledge.
Her reneging is just another reason to send her packin'
DrFill

Yes be Fair!!!   February 20th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Go Hilary.Delegates should be seated from FL and Michigan. Otherwise it is not fair to people of Florida and Michigan. Leaders should act quickly on this matter. The voices of 600,000 Michigan primary voters and 1.75 million Florida primary voters should be heard. The People of FL and MI should not be ignored. It is very important in this race

Brian   February 20th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Oh dear, Hillary has gone off the deep end.

Steve   February 20th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

As usual, when the rules don't fit into the Clinton's plans, they like to change the rules. Bill was head of the DNC for years before he became president, then president, then even more influential in the party afterward. He was instrumental in designing the rules as they are now and now he wants to change them to favor Hillary.

oscar   February 20th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Hillary is beggining to loose…
It is time to accept it…

Anna, SW Missouri   February 20th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

"The fact is: no automatic delegate is required to cast a vote on the basis of anything other than his or her best judgment about who is the most qualified to be president."

As a matter of fact, they aren't even required to do that. Defining what "most qualified" is, is kind of like defining what "is" is.

This is just another desperate move by a desperate campaign that is losing. A win is a win, and by any other name is still a win.

onenibble   February 20th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Hillary should get the deligates from Florida & Michigan because the people voted for her. It doesn't matter that Obama didn't campaign there, the people are perfectely able to make a choice without the candidates. Obama chose to have his name removed from the ballot. Every vote should count.

JerryZ   February 20th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

She went negative and it killed her campaign. She has Morons running her campaign.

I wanted to check on Wolf Blitzer. Hope he is OK after Hillary's loss.
Looked like it hit him hard. You can use the Hillary '09 T-shirt you wear under your suit to wipe the tears,

Mr. M   February 20th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Yeah, I do believe they should account Michigan and Florida Delegates because if the tables were turned…OOOoooh Child would the Obama campaign be crying up there!….
And yes I wrote like that on purpose!

CANDY   February 20th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

Hillary get a life. If you were ahead of Obama and he made these types of demands, what would you say to him. Obama stay kool and don't let Hillary play with the big dogs. She is still missing the point. The people as spoken and she can't go against that. Sorry Hillary.

Tara   February 20th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Here we go… again we see that she will do anyting to when.. just throwing pasta against the wall to see what sticks. She doesn't give a hoot about the American public just her career and winning.

pam,s.c.   February 20th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

obama leads in most states won , popular vote and pledged delegates . what is the problem for sen. clinton? she maybe playing with fire if she thinks that she can out manuever the voters. this is a democracy and if she thinks that the voters do not count she may as well pack up and move to venezuala.

Kelley   February 20th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Change the rules, go against what your party chose to do if the states moved up their primary what more does anyone need to say

Linda Feldman   February 20th, 2008 2:22 pm ET

There's all kinds of winning as we found out in 2000. We're going to need some show of stateswomanship to understand when the price of winning is at the cost of the country. Clinton should be given every opportunity to gracefully come to that conclusion. The same is true for Obama. Our goal is to end the Bush reign and restore the spirit of America and its prestige in the world. Let's not get in our own way.

Jacqueline Samms   February 20th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Here she goes again….When is she going to stop? It is pathetic….The more she goes negative, the more votes Obama gets. And she wants to be our Commander in Chief? I DON'T THINK SO.

av3   February 20th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

I would respect Hillary's argument regarding the delegates in Florida and Michigan if she had been making it months earlier at the convention where they were stripped.

Arguing for them now is just a desperate attempt to change the rules in her favor to keep her sinking ship afloat. What sounds like "their voices should be heard" from the Clinton camp is actually "I'm losing and need all the delegates I can get even the ones who were stripped by my party with my support."

Chris from NC   February 20th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

In the last paragraph, don't you mean the "clinton campaign" and "the clinton" in the previous paragraph?

DrFill   February 20th, 2008 2:21 pm ET

This level of desperation isn't surprising…….
DrFill

Democrat   February 20th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

The voices of 600,000 Michigan primary voters and 1.75 million Florida primary voters should be heard. The People of FL and MI should not be ignored. It is very important in this race

Adam, Los Angeles   February 20th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Sounds very reminiscent of a recent election when one candidate won the popular vote but the other was put in Office. Hillary, this doesn't seen very democratic to me at all.

For the sake of the party and the sake of the nation, please unite us.

Sharon of Illinois   February 20th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

I don't have a problem with her analysis of superdelegates. I just ask that they both play by the rules. The superdelegates are not to decide the election - what are the people to vote for. On the other hand, if Obama has the most pledged delegates she should bow out not depend on party insiders to put her over the top because in her opinion not enough Dems were smart enough to vote for her.

Mike   February 20th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Hillary is just playing desperate now. To try and make the Michigan and Florida delgates count, after the candidates decided not to campaign in either state, is not only flip-flopping but it is desperate, dirty and undemocratic. Hillary should be chastised for even bringing it up.

Lee Boyles   February 20th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

I am very worried about the strategy of the Clinton campaign. It seems like they are willing to take us all down with them. I have always been a Clinton supporter/defender (both Bill & Hillary) but I am turned off by the dirty politics and, well, "THERE YOU GO AGAIN"
(oops, is that plagerism?). Can't Hillary be satisfied with being the Senior Senator from New York? Can't she be on Obama's team and provide all of her experience and superior brain power to our new and best hope, Barack Obama. Can't she and BIll put their ego aside and see that this is the desire of Democrats and get away from the hostility of the past many years and move on. They could be such a big help. Are they willing to burn it all down and hand it over to Republicans? Please Hillary, please, don't do this.
I pray for a coming to terms with the truth here and be at peace and get on the team because YES WE CAN! Don't be left behind in a pool tears from all of us with such love and high hopes for you always.
Lee in San Pedro, California

S.   February 20th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

RULES ARE RULES! The next comander in chief should be the first to defend that point of view!

Ida Miller   February 20th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I think Obama is a good talker but not experienced enough to be a doer. I'm also not sure what his belifes are and that really scares me.

On the other Hand, Clinton certainly has more knowledge and the experience as to what our Country needs as a leader.

S. Davis   February 20th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Obama is getting a little arrogant isn't he.

Think - FL   February 20th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

And for her next trick… she will unveil the Constitution as it should have been written!

You will never hear anyone other than the Clintons or Putin arguing that these 800 individuals should anxiously overturn the will of the majority. If this situation was flipped… I can guarantee you that Barack would not be making this argument.

Yes Hillary. We can read the rules regarding what superdelegates are able to do, but to do so would be wholly undemocratic and to expect them shows yet another facet of your dark, egotistical, self-titled personality.

Go back to NY and quit scaring all of your residents down to FL… they're inflating housing prices.

penny   February 20th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

How long is it going to take for Miss Hillary to get it that mich. and florida were punished for going against the dem. party and have their primary sooner. The delegates sh