February 21, 2008
Posted: 09:09 PM ET

AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) — "Change you can Xerox," Clinton just said.She is trying to continue making the plagiarism charge — that Obama lifted a portion of a speech from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick — an issue.But that line seemed contrived to me.And Obama clearly enjoyed the plagiarism question, using it as an opportunity to portray the charge as an example of the "silliness" of Washington he is battling.Related: Watch Obama defend plagiarism charges

–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

Filed under: Bill Schneider


Kat from Va Beach   February 21st, 2008 10:57 pm ET

One should always acknowledge anothers quote immediately when using it…directly before or after you say it….not after you've been busted! I agree the words should be your own…and by the way please stop quoting, I mean Xeroxing, JFK and MLK enough is enough. If I want to channel the two of them I will calal a psychic!

Greg   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Are you kidding me! Clinton today at a ralley was chanting ,Yes we can , Yes me can. Now thats plagiarism.

Barbara   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

And, I'd like to wipe that saracastic "holier than thou" smirk/smile off her face! (Just go to picture on this website!)

CJ   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Hey Bill -

All of your headers start with Clinton. Obama is in this debate too.

Merri Gutierrez   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

When words are what you use to inspire and enthuse, we should expect that those words and ideas are genuine. Obama has made truthfulness and transparency his benchmarks and it is dissappointing that he, in effect, lied by borrowing lines of a speech, even from a friend. What that does is make those who are believers, truly believe they are his words. He, in effect, lied to us.

norman   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

"change" was central to Gov.Patrick's rehtoric but if you look at what 's
been accomplished in in the first yr. you'll be hard pressed to find
any accomplishments.My feel is that all the flourish by Obama will
be the same "much ado about nothing".

Anonymous   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Hillary is right! His whole campaign on change and he repeats overused words! She shows action he shows xeroxed words! Hillary is an excellent leader, she's a brilliant woman!

SM   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Bill, you must be watching a different debate than I am. Her line wasn't contrived. It was "going after him" exactly the way you said she should in your last post. And it was a funny, "ballsy" line, so good for her!

I have read your comments on all the democratic debates so far, and you've never been able to be unbiased, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Hillary is shining in spite of your spin.

Armando   February 21st, 2008 9:34 pm ET

I believe that Hillary lost the debate when she went off on the plagiarsm issue. Barack was obiously upset with her comment, but kept his composure. She would have appeared more professional and mature if she would'nt have taken the bait.

Moncille   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Petty, petty politics on her part…I'm sure her speechwriters and co-chairs have huddled with her on speeches and the like. This is the kind of thing that America IS tired of…enough…stick to the REAL problems, issues and solutions!

mndharmas   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

CNN should compare the accomplishments of these two for the american people. Americans know hillary more for her role as the cheated upon first lady of Arkansas and America

Issie   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Hillary is debating the same old washington politics. She talks too much and too polarize. If she didn't fix healthcare in 8 years what makes you think she will fix it if elected. you had your chance Hillary with the backroom deals.

ginger   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Wish Hillary would drop the plagiarism thing. So it was a paragraph. I hear her pick up things Obama says all the time.

me   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Highlight of the night so far.

shannon   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

The 'change you can xerox' comment made Hillary look desperate and small. It was obviously a manufactured sound bite that was anything BUT spontaneous, and when she got it in, you could easily imagine her cranky, cornered staff crafting it just for tonight's debate. Hillary's performance tonight is a perfect example of exactly why I don't want to see her as our president.

chefidel   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

It simple you can't have a debate with a great debater and obviuosly Obama is a great one .

Louise Walker   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Why are we not asking how much of her speechs have come from her husbands? Let's compare??

John Scott   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

You are right the line was contright - but it does speak to integrety - this is the highest position in the "land" - I want my President to have integrety - I think Hillary wins this one.

A Dileehia   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Obama owned Hillary on this issue. He is rocking in thie debate!

chris   February 21st, 2008 9:33 pm ET

Except for "just words?" isn't everything else–FDR's words, the Declaration of Independence, JFK's remarks–in the public domain?

Hillary is desperate, and she should "get real".

E. Murray   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

I agree that Senator Clinton's continued focus on the plagiarism charge is "silly". This is the type off foolishness that has our country in its continued state of distress! It is truly time for change! Change in the way we pursue the way we strengthen our country and if she continues to attack him on foolish issues, she is going to hinder any chance she has to become president of the United States. The American people are tired of this behavior!

Shawna in Austin   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

I recorded the debate so am a little behind real-time, but I was just wondering if Hillary got a kick-back from Xerox Corporation for using their name in the debate? She does have a lot of corporate backers, you know…

2001snake   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

WAKE UP PEOPLE.. Obama does not have one original idea nor plans for this Great Country. He is like a college kid (maybe that is why they are being hoodwinked) plagiarizing, cult revival like speeches and the proposed changes he will make when he is president; from Hillary Clinton.

Obama has cannibalized several proposed issues and their words from the other candidates. During the debate (Calif) , Obama was asked a few questions and he proceeded to repeat a statement either Hillary Clinton or John Edwards previously made. It is startling as to how many times he uses other candidates statements.

And just now when he was talking about the health care issue he again used language from one Hillary Clinton's speech.

Kim Ohio   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

I liked the silly politics comment. She just couldn't resist taking this to the gutter. She worked on that Xerox comment all week and she wasn't going to leave that stage until she got it out. Obama is sticking to the issues, answering the questions that are posed and showing that he is indeed ready to be our President.

Cindy Hillary   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Hillary needs to take lessons from Barack on how to speak without using the "I" word every other sentence.
It is evident she is losing this battle and is not the person America needs to bring this country back to what it used to be.
We all need change and we all need dreams, which is apparent by the young voters supporting him. Iam a young "60″ and feel inspired that we have a candidate like Mr Obama.

Politically Speaking   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Dissapointed

Of course it will be negative front page news….it was a negative comment! Can't you tell by the way the audience booed her?

nanette   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Obama was recycling Clinton's words as soon as she finished !!!

Heidi Kaiktsian   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Obama nailed it……….Hilary came off sounding childish and petty!

Matthew   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

The Boos said it all.

laura   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

My baloney has a first name it's O-B-A-M-A.

Wake up America!

um uh um uh stutter, stutter…..

Steve   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

The mile-high Teflon Kid spouting self-evident truths strikes again!

Jake   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

The fact of the matter is that if you really looked at what Deval Patrick has done in MA with his whole preaching of change and look at the same thing Barack is pushing - you'd be in Clinton's corner quickly. Deval hasn't done half the changes he preached about. Barack is doing just the same thing. Throwing useless rhetoric out there and everyone's in some sort of dillusion with him. People really should look at MA and see just how much damage putting in an inexperienced candidate can do to our country!

jack   February 21st, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Clinton has really dodged many questions. Barack will not be ready?? She sounded like "tricky Dick"

Marrkel   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I feel that the "zerox" comment was a weak attempt at a "one-liner" to dominate headlines.

Chris   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

she keeps trying to push it, but the guy already said that the person that wrote the 2 lines is on his campaign chair so how the hell is that bad?

shes just pissed because no one would want to write a song about any of her tired retoric

Casilda Barnes   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary please drop it. It is clear what happen and defensible. Obama's response makes sense. She is so desperate it shows!!!!!! When will she just go home

simplegestures   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

a poor question, trying to start a fight between the new kid and the bully on the playground

gregg   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Does he not get tired of his own words? He just rambles on and on.
Why does he always have to have the last word on everything?

Felicia M   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Barack is a brilliant orator. She can't touch him on this. She should move on. I loved that he pointed out his winning streaks, Texas endorsements, and his millions of supporters not being "delusional."

mndharmas   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

The best political team is backing Clinton

Jonathan Wright   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Obama's best quip here would have been. "Hillary that sure is a cute little attack line ("change you can xerox"). I'm guessing one of your advisors spent a lot of time writing coming up with that "change" one-liner for you. Meanwhile, my advisors & I have been working for change for the American people…. " It was nice to see that not only did the audience not applaud the lame one-liner but there even seemed to be some boos.

Louis Johnson, Lake Spivey GA   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

George in Georgia: I am hearing you. That was one that got by the cabbage heads.

Sabrina LasVegas, NV   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary is as fake as Mccain's wife's smile after a botox injection. The comment was a dud. Obama looks like the better leader by far.

Kell   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary is being absolutely petty on her "plagarism" charge against Obama. She needs to drop the issue!!

Jim from Colorado   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

He took her attack and rose above it and made her look silly in the mean time…

Al   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Unfortuantely she did not realize the person he got the quote from is his advocate and is working with him. It is not Plagerism if you have the permission of the author to say it in the context that he did.

Kevin Lester   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

He said what he had to say. Hillary kept trying but "O" let it go…nice.

crews2me   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

George in Georgia you are right and I am very afraid of Hillary care. I don't want another government slush fund for them to raid and take us into another war. I want them to leave my check along as it is.

Patricia   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I disagree with Dr. ROy. If she were fighting back she wouldn't have dropped it like a hot rock when the audience "booed" her.

Rob   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary is clearly coming across to Americans as the most qualified, experienced candidate who's ready to take office & finally hear the voice of Americans to help make this country better!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!!

..::Eddie::.. Atlanta, GA   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary won't be respected if she continues to debate on fluff and not substance. Her attacks this evening wreak of desperation. This race is mathematically out of her reach now. If she's interested in the good of the party, she'll conduct the remainder of her campaign in a respectable way. Stop trying to use the Republican Playbook Hillary.

James Thomason   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

There was a blog I believe on the internet that shows Senator Obama
not saluting the American Flag or saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the American Flag. Why? Is he a true American? Does he believe that Jesus arose from the dead? Does he believe in the true and living God? What is his real middle name?

jen   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I haven't heard Sen. Clinton avoid any questions. She has the best answers and knowledge. Obama is still in his dream world.

Jeannie   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

OBAMA KICKED HER BUTT WHEN SHE TRIED TO HIT HIM WITH THE PLAGIARISM THING!!!!!

OBAMA 08*

sarra   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

what did she have to do when she have asked from the moderator you guys don't be blind and don't blame hillary she is not the one who bring the issue but she gave him good punch

Eddie   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

I have to say, she really is resonating with me. I have been checking out Barack's words a bit more since McCain's comment aoubt empty but eloquent promises of change.

His 4k to college students is great, but how does he pay for it??

I voted Barack in the CA primary, but now I am thinking I may have made a mistake.

shingai   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary its over..

PatelB   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Two points for Obama… We need to get out… This conflicit has been going to BC lets just lets live the way they want to… We can't change the wolrd to live like we do… Let them be… and they may just leave us alone.. Put the money we are spending on the war into schools road and ect. "give peace a chance" JL

rod   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Here is a comment you can xerox.

GO HILLARY!!!

Tammy   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Hillary didn't seem very Presidential accusing Barack of plagiarism, when every politician quotes others.

twainwalker   February 21st, 2008 9:31 pm ET

Why didn't anyone ask questions about Obama's criticisms of Clinton so that she could weigh in on them? Why is this all about him? Gets the last word nearly every time.

USSailor   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

That comment tanked hard!

Darnell   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

I think it is ok to quote people when you credit the source. We should expect our leaders to know that. Not sayin he was totally wrong but it is not a issue that we should make a whole debate of.

Desigirl   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Obama's mistake was quickly dismissed by the media. They are so forgiving of him. He should have been more forthright about borrowing his friend's speech. My gut instinct is that he's a fake. Michelle………..you will need to wait to be proud of this country for a while.

Grace   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

She made the point - if your campaign is about words, they should be your own!!! So true

D   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

He appears more comfortable and Presidential. You can feel her trying so hard. And when she is uncomfortable she puts on the grin.

Pat   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Petty issues when this country has some real issues that need to be resolved. I expect more from Hillary.

Kimberly   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Hillary is making herself look soooo silly. The pettiness of Washington is evident in her discussion of "plagiarism". Give up while you can still save face. America is tired of the childishness and ready for real "CHANGE!"

Gigi Jones   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Silly is the word!! Sen. Clinton has copied things Obama, her opponent, has said. She needs to forget about it!!

lou   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

BO is laying the smack down on HC tonight
get ready red state american your worst fear is going to come true: UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE

sam   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

I agree with Andrew. The "plagiarism" issue was silly to bring up in the first place. Just another pointless Clinton position.

Louis Johnson, Lake Spivey GA   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Steve, I hear Howard Cosell in my head and he sounds like this: " Down goes Clinton, Down goes Clinton, Down goes Clinton"

Falaq   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

On the plagerism issue, it is a no isue, most of what they both say are words that someone else wrote.

Clinton does not write her own speeches, so whatr is her point?

Chris   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

After that comment, she was awarded with boos from the audience. That's not exactly something I would want to occur on national television if I'm trailing in the delegate count….

erika   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Nobody evens remembers any of Hillary's speeches. Maybe she should try using someone else's, as if she weren't already.

Marc   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

It made Hillary look bad…and sad.

ML   February 21st, 2008 9:30 pm ET

CNN is so biased against Hillary Clinton. Even Campbell Brown cuts off Hillary during the debates while she lets Obama go on and on. CNN should stop showing such bias against Senator Clinton.

cheryl   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

she saw her plagiarism issue wasn't working..did u see how quick she was to try & switch to healthcare when that wasn't even the topic….barack can most definitly hold his own

Liv   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Granted, it was a mistake to press the issue, but I do want a leader who can press that hard against our adversaries. "I tell you what!"

Also — she's coming off like a strong world leader and he's appearing to be a diplomat…

GI   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Bill, throwing punches or mudd only turns Voters off. Its tacky at best.
This type of tactic is what got Bush in Hot water with the rest of the world.

Marne D   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Xerox or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

If the words "There is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America." from recent Obama speeches and commercials sounds familiar, it's probably because that' a verbatim quote from the movie "Man of the Year".

Flick   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

KGS, agreed.

If this is all Hillary has against Obama, it's going to be a long night. Let's get over this already.

fair tax in la.   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE PRESIDENT OF AMERICA CAN AND CANNOT DO!!
HE SCRAES THE HELL OUT OF ME!!
COME ON PEOPLE READ , LISTEN AND REACT !!!

gregg   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Doesn't it bother anyone that the words are not his words and he has no real plan? This could be the president, the vote is for his ideas and his words not someone else's

Pat   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I think Hillary should think twice before pushing for more debates.

rock usula   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I disagree - I think, as a President, you have to show an example. Not copying a call-to-arm speech from another governor who is more on style than on substance, that words matter. They do matter.

Jinxintx   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

As a college instructor, I would personally like to thank Senator Obama for encouraging the college students who are very invested in his rhetorical and inspirational talent to cheat. At universities, words and ideas are very important and the attribution of those words and ideas are equally important. Even when you have the permission to use someone's words or ideas, you are still ethically responsible for giving the originator credit.

My students need to realize that Obama's excuse will not make the cut.

Ryan   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Lol I loved how fast she dropped "plagiarism" yeah, anyone remember a kindergarden report incident?

The clintons…oi

Hal   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Obama:"We contributed 2.7 billion to latin america, Iran is the beneficiary of Iraq invasion, true. Military burden, homeless vetiran, post traumatic disorders, veterans having to drive miles to better hospital. Obama, spending 2.5 billion, McCain we should be in Iraq more than 100years"

Iowan for Obama   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

This is why Hillary Clinton will NEVER get anything accomplished.

She was booed by the audience as she showed her pettiness. Hillary just doesn't get it!

Obama models mature leadership abilities to be the next President/Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America!

Obama 08

Cee Dubya   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I agree, I think the High School discussions should end. However, Obama does not have distinct and direct approaches with detailed plans on anything. How can she debate when his most used "words" are "Change we can believe in?"

thinker   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review and a university professor, he knows what plagarism is and he knows that he is guilty of it. Heis being intellectually dishonest when he says that it does not matter because his friend gave him permission. The fact that the lines came from his friend is irrelevant, he presented them as his own without crediting his source. It is also irrelevant that the words were in the public domain, because again he did not credit his source. What kind of message is he sending to his supporters, many of them college students, if they did the same they would be kicked out of college.

Judi   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

I'm not even a Clinton supporter - but I feel compelled, after watching this debate, to mention my disgust at the commentators/question posers obvious bias. Their continual firing of heated questions at her is "FIRING ME UP". They have put her in the worst possible light - made her look as though she had to explain / defend past comments - and - most likely, lost this election for her

In other words, the commentators' unprofessional bias is extremely unfair and has manipulated this debate. Shame on them! Who chose these people anyway?????

PS. They didn't have the courage to bring up Michelle Obama's "not proud" comment though, did they?

R Lory   February 21st, 2008 9:29 pm ET

This is awfully "childish" for Sen. Clinton to keep bringing this subject up. If Sen. Clinton runs OUR country like her campaign, we are all in TROUBLE!!!

Richard Basham   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

She was taken by surprised with Obama's response and when she was to respond she tried to escape the plagiarism charge by diverting everyone to a health care topic.

Edwin Robinson   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Again, Senator Clinton displays the old "Schoolyard" candidate childish methods of throwing dirt instead of dealing with real issues. She agains dodges the questions and fail to answer direct questions with direct answer, giving the ole age policial rehortic (sp).

She continues to show me that she is petty in her responses to Sentor Obama and has shown her spots in her defeated and defensive posture.

Waiting in Ohio
Gobama!

Maggie   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

I can't wait to see who wins Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Totally on point Bill. This is non-issue which Senator Clinton has tried to exploit, fortunately without success. The original author of the lines has specifically authorized the use of his lines. This is what they call a licensed use of a sound sample in the entertainment biz. It's not only perfectly moral and legal, it's moral kind of an hommage to the orginal author - who in this case happens to be a supporter and friend of Senator Obama. Put differently: "hey, this is a great line, use it to your advantage".

CTvoter   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

So-called plagiarism pales in comparison to some of the things that could be brought up in regards to the Clintons — Travelgate, impeachment, etc.

Hannah in STL   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Hillary showed her ugly side… she lost ground with many civilized women voters, like me. Great reply Obama… that is pure “Washington silliness”!!!

Sharon   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Why can't Obama stay on point. He seems like he just bounces all over the place and never really answers the question asked.

crews2me   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Obama is truly showing that he can be commander and chief!!!

Ed   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

What good wil it really help to give $4000 to graduates for commiting to service after graduation?

Not all of the students that need help have majors that can be widely used in civil services.

I would like to hear how they would help all students. All graduates cant go into these public services some must enter the business world.

PATRICIA HUGHES   February 21st, 2008 9:28 pm ET

I clearly hear what Hillary Clinton's policies are; I am often uncertain what Obama poses BECAUSE HE STUMBLES OVER HIS OWN WORDS!!!! WHY DO YOU, THE MEDIA, CONSTANTLY EXCUSE HIM FOR THIS???? WHY???? WHY DO YOU, THE MEDIA, CONSTANTLY SUGGEST THAT HILLARY IS TOO DIVISIVE A CANDIDATE???? BECAUSE OF YOUR CONSTANT COMMENTS ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON OVER A LONG, LONG PERIOD OF TIME, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE CONDITIONED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO BELIEVE THAT ONLY A MALE IS ELECTABLE!!!!

Chris in Boston   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Whats with her giggling after half of Obama's answers?

Ronnie   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I think he did a wonderful job responding to this petty non-issue.

Rob   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Elrod ~ Hillary was just having her opportunity for a fair rebuttal. If you notice, both candidates do it frequently during the debate.

C M Nash   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Honestly, it's such an insignificant point in comparison to other issues which ought to be discussed. I haven't seen her give citation credit to Cesar Chavez when she utters 'Si, se puede'.

Ryan from New Mexico   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Hey come on CNN about this issue, I left a good decent comment earlier.

so if we are suppose to watchi this debate, and not have a right to respond in a good acountable way. then why even ask us to comment at all CNN, if your not going post good points?

Julie   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

If the only mud slinging Hillary can do is claim Obama plagarized a friend of his, then she's in real trouble.

Joshua   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Obama has shown great poise, consistently taking the high road. Presidential posture.

Patrick   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Sounded to me like she was booed for that one. Obama made the Clinton campaign look ridiculous with his answer. But that didn't stop her from trying to get that obviously pre-written line in.

Jeffery   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

She is grasping at straws.

Confused   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

That was so petty - it showed - big mistake Hillary.

mike   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

OK HOW DUMB CAN U BE THINKING IS plagiarism COME ON NOW YOU GUYS WENT TO SCHOOL WHEN YOU PLAGIRISE IT MEANS USING SOMEONES WORD WITH THEIR APPROVAL. IN HIS WORDS HE QUOTED SO ALL YOU GUYS THINKING IS plagiarism GO BACK TO SCHOOL YOU NEED SOME LESSONS! THE REAL PERSON plagiarism IS THE PERSON THAT KEEPS CHANGING THEIR CAMPAING THEME AND BASHING THAT CITY EVERY TIME SHE LOSES

Schroeder   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

She should push the plagiarism issue. As an academic, he should know better. Hillary's point is that he uses rhetoric to motivate, even though they aren't his words and fails to give credit where credit is due, which is pretty much what he's about. It's more about his campaign - it's about him. Interestingly much like his father's legacy of egotism which was his downfall. You can only gloss over so much - just like Obama's rendition of his father's importance in his book even though his father had serious character issues.

Connie   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I made the call to my friends today that the campaign of Hillary Clinton would write a "where's the beef" line for her to try and get in.
And…aha..there it was, the Xerox line. How contrived!

Lost in Moderation in Vermont   February 21st, 2008 9:27 pm ET

Did you hear the boos on this one?

Barbara   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Silliness is an understatement. HRC needs to be our next HHS secretary, NOT our next president!

Brian   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Obama nailed her on this issue.

Donna   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I agree - Hillary needs to drop the plagiarism issue. We all repeat quotes from time to time. So what….Talk about a real issue.

Jefferson   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

When you say someone else's words in a speech, you have to at least mention who said it. Good Xerox comment.

Zain   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

When did it become presidential to act uneducated, and bad-foul mouthed? Clinton is the epitome of a sour, desperate looser.

Bruce   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I think her snipe and attitude on this is going to be the end of her campaign. She showed her true petty colors.

Frank   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Hillary's plagiarism charge backfired on her. Sorry, but on this one she came out as small and petty.

Maggie   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I think Obama is not going to let the Iraq troops stay there longer than Hillary would. She keeps saying that. Obama is really fighting hard right now

beth from NY   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

You are crazy if you think Hillary is failing….Obama doesn't sound to eloquent tonight….. Don't you agree????

Sunny   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Stupid comment by Hillary. So childish.

S

Vig   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

There it is again "advantage Obama" he always comes out smelling like a rose with your biased coverage. This issue is more one of a racial difference between Black and White cultures - why don't you give your coverage some depth and explore this issue - instead of making Obama so pure

John   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Isn't it strange the "candidate in the solutions business" never gives actual examples of any. She just keeps repeating "all my life", "all my life'.
I have not heard one good example of an accomplishment of this woman in the entire campaign. Can anyone help me on this? I'm serious…really.
Nothing Bill did, but real accomplishments you can attribute to her ideas and fortitude, without grabbing credit from others

Chris   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

This issue is so petty. Drop it allready. All the candidates do it. Even Hillary has used some of Obama's lines.

Mike Zamora   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Applause to Obama for not stooping to Hillary's comments. Many 'lift' ideas and words from others all the time to help get their point across; what's so wrong with it here? To call it 'xeroxing' is a cheap statement. In the end it's, as they've both agreed, all in actions. Cheers to the candidate who can get the job done.
Obama for President!

Brian   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Xerox comment was a little overboard. It didn't sit well with the crowd. Kudos to Obama for taking the high road. I especially liked the comment "Silly Season". She walked right in that

George   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I am so done with the Clintons

Mattheus Mei   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

The house fell on top of her after that one — stupid attempt at a barb, she can't win with the Golden Tongue son from Illinoise

Eric   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I agree she looks very petty. The Xerox comment seemed contrived too…she was just waiting to launch that one. I can just imagine her practicing in front of a mirror.

Chris in Boston   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I'm curious how she thought she could attack him on something he's been completely up front about from the very beginning.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeak.

Bye Hillary!

brent   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

I thought it was a great comment and she did not back away. He literally ripped off an entire speech. WOW

robo   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

What makes her more prepared to be commander and chief? Being Bill's wife? Tipper Gore has had the same experience. And her husband wasn't run out of town on a rail.

Jeri   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Does the plagiarism charge really draw anything but snickers? It was 15 seconds in an hour long speech! It was a series of phrases used WITH PERMISSION. She has used multiple lines from various speeches, including Mario Cuomo's speeches! NOT WITH PERMISSION! Get real Hillary, tell the truth for a change and stop twisting facts. Doesn't America deserve a president that is honest. Fact checking every statement against Obama has taught me a lot. Illinois legislature legitimately uses PRESENT votes to allow time for a bill to be supported and modified. All the legislators use it. She brags about leaving college and working for the Children's Defense Fund rather than a large law firm. Check it out, do a search. She worked there less then a year and THEN went to a prestigious law firm. The list could go on and on. I recommend fact checking who ever you intend to vote for. By far, Obama is the most honest.

Brooks   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

She has to stop being "silly" none of that stuff works and your right she looks petty

Juan   February 21st, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Obama has been more positive than Hillary

lsd saint   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

I think both candidates have done an incredible job this evening, laying out their platforms and we should be proud of their positions, regardless of whichever wins the nomination.

Both of these people are top notch and I hope we will get behind whoever wins to stop the war, stop the corruption and start doing good things for the UNITED States of America.

Pantsuit Lady   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

She is too stubborn for my taste. She would ignore our wishes just like Bush.

And Obama slammed her with the right hook with "Silly Season". I screamed laughing when he said that.

dee   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

I loved the Xerox comment!!

david cercone,pompano beach,florida   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

If thats the best she can do…she needs to just admit its over

Rob   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Interesting how Obama calls plagiarism "silliness" when he's the one caught with his hand in the "cookie jar". Fact is, when you're running for president of the United States and speaking to the american public, your words should be your own! The trouble with Obama is that he has been very vague about details in how he will carry out policy or solutions. Hillary Clinton has continued to convey specifics about policy & solutions. This is what separates the boys from the women!

PatelB   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Fed lower interest rates but home loans and credit card rates are still high. If banks are forced by the government to lower loan and credit card rate. This would put more money in americans pockets and they would spend more which help kick start the economy. Home loan rates are back to 6.0 but banks can load money from the Gov for 3.0. Why can't candidates address is issue that is on most americans minds

Rory   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

I can't stand either of them, but Hillary is right about Obama's xeroxing promises.

Jeff   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Clinton is slinging mud on this one.

matt   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

By "contrived", you mean "plagiarized"?

carlee   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

I believe that Bill used words from other people when he first became prez. Hillary needs to let it go because she has used his words CHANGE and HOPE when making speeches and I don't remember him or her giving credit. And if you weren't listening the person he used the quote from gave him permission so it was not plagiarism.

MB   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Old News!

S. Sarian   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

You should be ashamed of yourselves, you seem more interested in starting a FIGHT between the candidates than listening to what they think about issues. When they wanted to describe their differences in health care, WHICH I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR, you're busy trying to get to YOUR next question answered.

Stephen   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

This is a dead issue. Who believes that Senator Clinton writes all her own words and speaches?

Heath   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

He would be kicked out of college… that is for sure. He doesn't have an original thought. Have you noticed that he repeats what she said!

Melissa Haussman   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

Obama can hardly talk about the "silliness" of Washington since he's part of the very same Senate as Hillary. People need to realize this.

Whether the line about xeroxing was contrived or not, it hit home and that's the point…

Melissa Haussman

sboyd   February 21st, 2008 9:25 pm ET

The moderation is unbelievable tonight - judging when to let the candidates talk, but moving on when the situation becomes repetitive. To be fair to Wolf, maybe it is just easier to not allow another female to dominate, whereas when you are a man not letting a woman talk, well that seemed to be just down right impolite (anyway I am sure that must have what made Wolf so ineffective as a moderator.)

Cheryl Rahm-McGrath   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Hiliary, forget the word plagiarism. You want to talk "P" words, how about perjury. That is one we haven't heard in a while. Also, when your oratorical skills are mastered as well as your opponent, then we can talk plagiarism. However, I won't hold my breath.

sean Detroit   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

the xerox comment was planned and pathetic

Shes sounding so petty. He's finally sounding forceful and presidential in a debate. Bye Hillary

angie   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She looked plain STUPID AND DESPERATE! The American people are more smarter than that.

Robert in Albuquerque   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Why is it that if Hillary attacks it's shown as weak but if Obama does it's viewed as ok? Double standard and I'm sick of it.

Julie   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Clinton is looking desperate with this type of attack. She needs to get back to what is important to the
American people.

Maria   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Clinton is right. Mr. Xerox dismisses it as silliness, because what else is he going to do? He steals ideas, his wife is not proud to be an American….I think we have identified our first couple!

ei panadero   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

If universities have been monitoring students submitting term papers and reports with regards to plagiarism and not giving proper credits to authors, then why would the next US President be excluded?

Roddie   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She has become the epitome of her campaign…negativity and desperation…she has sure reflected her campaign 2nite

Lazaro   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She is just pushing anything now to try and get the upper hand, even if it means butting in on every question when told to stop talking.

GO HILLARY   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

it's not petty - it's a big deal.

either he has ideas or he doesn't.

we have a president already who doesn't think for himself and we dont need another one of those.

Paul C   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She is right though that this is a campaign of your OWN words not someone elses.

Lisa   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

This was a low point for Clinton. She's resorting to petty attacks and the audience is clearly unimpressed.

Sonia   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Did she think plagiarism when she titled her book," It takes a Village". NO! this is from an old African proverb. It doesn't take anything from her book. Just like Obama's words take nothing from his campaign.

Barbara   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Clinton is a catty b - - - -! Can't you just see her (hear her) talking sarcastically across a negotiating table with heads of state? What a scary thought! I quit watching the debate at 7:20 p.m., MST. It turned into a Clinton SPEECH! A time limit for comments should have been set! I guess desperate candidates just talk more and, it appears, CNN allowed her to talk more; and, of course, having no time limitation, Clinton talked and talked and talked and talked–ad nausem!

B for Obama   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Her accusation holds no water - it's simply bickering.

dusty   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Did BO just say 'Tali bahn'? Where does he think Alkida in Afgahnistan came from? Pull the troops out of Iraq too soon and the 'Tali bahn' move back into Iraq. Keep troops there until Iraq stablizes and can secure itself, then we, the US, will have a forward operating base for the other unstable countries in the area that seem to be a thorn in our side.

you go girl

Dissapointed   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Whats up with the analyst…is he anti-clinton? I am actually not for any of these candidates but the headlines are just not cool. Obama is not perfect. To my understanding was the one that got heated about the plagiarism charge and Hillary obviously had to respond with the now famous "change you can xerox." Wait for that phrase to be front page news but very negatively. The more the media praises Obama the more I grow to dislike him…please STOP enuf

robo   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She's too desperate. Swinging blindly and dishonestly. More of the same - "on day one."

Sheila Thomas   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

My feeling is that Senator Clinton is resorting to pettiness and mud-slinging in her effort to turn the tide that up to now has so clearly and strongly run against her.

ciarda   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Yeah you would think so wouldn't you- you and John King are so blatently biased toward Obama. Twice he's had second responses and went on and on, and you have not allowed Hillary even one short second response, and even cut off her short first response twice, and didn't allow her to respond to Obama's pot shots several times. You and your network are so clearly biased toward men over women- look at even your questioner panel 1 woman 2 men. John King should not even be there, his questions are pointless, petty and childish, with fawning comments on Obama, and nasty attacks on Hillary tied in them- totally unprofessional as a journalist asking questions at a debate.

E   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

She lost the debate by pressing it . . .the only boos of the night.

Texas Toast

Jeff from Phoenix   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

What do you "no experience" people think Obama's been doing for the last 20 years, twiddling his thumbs? Check out his background in Chicago. And lord forbid he plagarize… the constitution, MLK, FDR…

Erika   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

Its a REAL problem that a campaign soley based on words that uplift has in fact LIFTED those very words. What else is there besides those words? Nothing.

Hillary '08

Alan   February 21st, 2008 9:24 pm ET

That charge is silly … this isn't a couple of kids fighting in the school yard … Every politician has speech writers and use others thoughts … It is indeed the actions that count!

Nicole   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I would bet my life that Senator Clinton has used phrases that were coined by others in her speeches. Does that mean she's plagiarized? Her attacks don't help the Democratic party and make her look petty. She's grasping for straws.

Janet   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

She's right on this one. He's downplaying using someone else's speech, but I am not buying it. His reference to "silliness" in Washington fell flat. Silliness? Actually he seems flat, too. In any event, his integrity is lacking. You'd think he invented change the way he goes on. It's tiresome. And what's with his pronunciation of Taliban? So not ready to be commander in chief…..he looks like a deer in the headlights in this debate.

George Burnett   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

When Mr. King asked the question he said each of you have said things about the other then asked Senator Clinton about what she said about Senator Obama and allowed senator Obama to react. He did not ask Senator Obama about statements he made about Senator Clinton leaving the impression that the comments were one way only. they were not.
Secondly Cambell brown continues to cut off Senator Clinton and allows senator Obama to go on as long as he likes.

mike   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

you may call it a tired issue, but she sure is right.

borrowing words? come on. what kind of a president would that be.

SWITCH ON YOUR BRAIN OBAMA

Martha   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

"Change you can xerox" was a line Hillary will regret, in my opinion. Lame comeback. But I did feel she eloquently explained why actions, not just words, matter. And how when a campaign is about words, it should be Obama's own words, not someone else's.

rj   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

HIS SPEAKING IS STARTING TO SEEM "LIKE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER"

darrell   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I dont care - is this character attrack going to keep food prices down NO!!!!! If we keep going through this - I guess we will start having congress hearing about this

AJ   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Okay..I just got out of the military …someone needs to look up Obama's charge that military in Afganistan are being split up between there and Iraq …wrong…I don't know of any units in which they split at the platton level. Plus, what they hell is he talking about with them scavenging for weapons. I got buds in Afganistan right now and I haven't heard…."jeesh we are running out of bullets and guns"..
Some reporter needs to nail him on this one. He is clearly just making this crap up as he goes along.

Somebody for the love of Pete look into this!

Matt Norris   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Im curious as to why all these questions are being asked to Clinton about Obama. I have not heard one question specifically to Obama about her. It's as if someone has decided she is the judge and the jury is out on him so she is some deciding factor. I think he is doing very well considering all that is coming at him from her and the facilitators.

This is a very biased debate. Is she a facilitator too?

Charles   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

GO FOR THE GUT GIRL! BALLS TO THE WALL TEXAS STYLE!

Maggie   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Hillary sure knows her stuff here.Obama is waiting to break in to her argument.

James   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

This is boiling down to a draw… and that favors Obama. Hillary knows that to have a place at any future table, and avoid the legacy that she hurt the party, she has to keep it relatively civil. Basically, she's stuck!

margie   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

THE XEROX COMMENT WAS GREAT. She backed off at the right time; she made her point well.

John - Spokane, WA   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

She hit him right square in the Jaw with that one. He had to take a standing eight count. All she said was " I think you should use your own words" Is that asking too much !!

The kicker is, most of the "Borrowed" speech from Deval were words that Deval took from MLK & JFK !

Sergene Kimbrough   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I to think that was silliness…….. If that is all she has she is in big trouble. I really expected more from Clinton

Toby Younis   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

I wonder if "Change you can Xerox" will carry the same weight that "Where's the Beef?" I expect we'll see that again.

janice alexander   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

the moderator needs to have better control of the debate. Hillary is being allowed to take too much answering questions.

DemFan   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

That one went over as well as a Fart in Church….

Christopher Scorzo   February 21st, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Both candidates are sharp minded and competent strategists with understanding the issues our country faces. However, in the end when its time for office…our country will need a President that has been near the issues at hand, understands the "politics" at the Hill and abroad and has experience dealing with policy decision makers. It is here that while both candidates are quality individuals Hillary clearly has the experience and "close encounters" with others to move the issues through the Capitol. I think the learning curve that Obama will need should not be performed in the White House. Let's put Hillary's experience to work.

Christian   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Hillary looked silly with that comment.

paul   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

She just doesn't understand it! Whether it is a change in how we conduct foreign policy or how we develop public policy in public she just doesn't get it!

NJ   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

I agree its not plagiarism but her point was valid.. Barack is admired for "his" words, not someone elses. Moreover it wasn't so much that he played the same speech, it was the manner in which he delivered it which was identical to the otherwise known empty suit , Patrick Deval.

Nicole Roberson   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Clinton made herself found like a 5 year old. My applause to Obama for not fighting with her…it would have been so easy.

Thierno Diallo   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Obama will be good as commander in chief and Clinton as his vice president. I think them two will form a very good team.

Doc Wood   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

The xerox comment is unfortunate and not helpful. It was an attempt at a an applause line that fell flat. If we are to win in November, this is not the way to do it. Sorry that she said it, and watch how often it is played on the news tommorrow.

Shaen   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

I am disheartened about the notion that "if a friend says I can use their words" it’s ok to portray them as my own, and then the notion of this issue is simply “silly”. I am sorry but I fail to see where the issue is one of permission, as this blog seems to reflect; the issue is one of integrity… Sadly integrity is now “silly”.

qohelet   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Funny how she quickly changed the plagiarism charge to health care, she was ready for that. Love how Obama took the high road and let her slide.

Gennifer   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

I love that she got booed. I'm voting for Obama because of the silliness of Hillary…he did so well by sticking to the issues

Katherine J.   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

How can a statement about a campaign that has used another's EXACT words be contrived? Obama's campaign is based completely on his "WORDS" that he will with little experience bring about change. Change for the sake of change is foolish indeed.

Kyle Moffatt   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

this is ridiculous.

Obama PERFECTLY justified his use of Gov. Patrick's quotation literally 2 SECONDS prior to Hillary saying "I think your words should be your own"

It's almost as if she wasnt even listening….

Obama hit the nail on the head, Clinton stooped into the "silliness" that politics tends to drifts towards, and clearly shows the desperation of her campaign, buy using cheap tactics to try and sway the public.

its pathetic.

and by the way, Obama's "plagiarism" was of quotes by MLK, and JFK, and Thomas Jefferson, so what is Clinton saying? "The words you used in between those historical quotes were similar to those of Gov. Patrick" ???

Even if a quotation seems similar to one of a fellow politician, it doesnt mean that it is no longer good. A concept does not have to be original in order to be valuable.

thats all i got.

DMAC   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

How many lines has she taken from Obama on her stump speeches???

Zaragoza   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Wake up, Bill. You can't dismiss the plagiarism charge. Sure Deval Patrick is a part of Obama's campaign. But these were not new words that Deval gave Obama for his speech. These were lifted words that were part of a speech Deval gave several years ago. Completely different. The media is asleep at the wheel on this one.

Yes, it is "change you can Xerox."

Dean   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

This is a silly issue anyway. Clinton has NO idea what plagiarism is. On top of that she somehow linked this issue with his speaches to his other ideas. She is constantly saying he has no ideas. I only hear ideas from him. I only hear complaints from her.

Shirley   February 21st, 2008 9:22 pm ET

Words, words, words ~ ~ all Obama does is ramble on ~ ~ uses too many words and it does get very boring ~ ~