February 26, 2008
Posted: 09:12 PM ET
 Clinton and Obama opened the debate with a sharp exchange on healthcare.
Clinton and Obama opened the debate with a sharp exchange on healthcare.

(CNN) — Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama continued their ongoing spat over healthcare at Tuesday's Democratic debate, each accusing the other of distorting their respective policy stands.

"Sen. Obama has consistently said I would force people to have health care whether they can afford it or not," Clinton said.

Obama quickly countered, taking Clinton to task for consistently claiming Obama's plan would exclude 15 million Americans.

"I dispute it and I think it is inaccurate," he said. To suggest somehow that our mailing is somehow different from the kinds of approaches that Senator Clinton has taken throughout this campaign I think is simply not accurate."

The back-and-forth was part of an 16-minute opening discussion on the issue, despite repeated attempts from the debate moderators to move to other topics. It followed a sharp exchange last the weekend over campaign literature the Obama campaign is distributing that claims Clinton would force even those who are not financially able to buy health care.

"I think it's important that you stand up for yourself and you point out these differences so that voters can have the information they need to make a decision," Clinton said of her sharp denouncement of Obama Saturday.

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


RO   February 27th, 2008 2:09 am ET

The differences between the two plans may be small, but there's a huge difference on which one will actually set out to do what is intended. I think Hillary's mandated plan ensures that everyone is covered and that it's affordable.

I work for a health insurance company (I honestly think that health insurance companies should be abolished) and I can tell you that mandate = low premium. I won't get into the details but perhaps CNN could do a more indepth piece on this issue. Obama has other ways of generating savings, but these are what we call "soft savings" that don't necessarily translate into taxpayer dollars since the ones benefiting directly are profit making hospitals, pharma companies, and other service sectors.

Brian   February 27th, 2008 2:00 am ET

You people call yourselve's the United States? You are so divided from state to state it's pathetic. Different tax laws, different criminal laws, Health care and even different speed limits. What's so United about anythig you do or any of you. Why would you think a health care debate would be a slam dunk for any candidate?

Kevin   February 27th, 2008 1:50 am ET

Who is more divisive? Who is getting over 80% of black vote? Who is polarizing this nation? America, wake up.

tom   February 27th, 2008 1:50 am ET

one of the things that bothers me about Hilary is that she keeps talking about experience. I got 35 years of experience. lets look at this she is 61 he is 47 barrack has 20 years of experience so if he was 61then he would have 34 years. so where is the difference in experience? please don't tell me things like I'm dumb, like I don't think and make decisions for myself. the reason health care policy she put forth failed is because of bad decision making, bad planning and bad strategy, etc

viic   February 27th, 2008 1:45 am ET

I think she is right. Explain how you could penalize people who dont buy your health ins. at the hospital. Let's get down to the REAL parts of these health care plans so that the American public can make a choice. Only then will we see WHO has the BEST health care plan for ALL Americans. GO HILLARY!

Cathy   February 27th, 2008 1:39 am ET

I am rather tried of hearing about healthcare every single debate. The differences between their plans are minor. The real difference is how they will go about trying to get something done. Hillary will fight. Barack will reach out and work with people. Nuf said!

NO_MO_CLINTONS in Tokyo   February 27th, 2008 1:38 am ET

OBAMA is always right,you can see sincerity on is face whenever he appear.billary is dicisive and you can't trust people like that,they always have their own hiden agender.

VOTE OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shane   February 27th, 2008 1:30 am ET

CNN again playing up Clinton report it all CNN Obama won !

Trenton Sims, Los Angeles   February 27th, 2008 1:28 am ET

Hillary is right about one thing…its very important. We need to know that the difference between plan and Baracks.
His makes it Available to all.

Hillary Imposes it upon you. Its a nicer word than Force.
The Thing she has yet to admit is that she would Force us all to Buy the plan or be penalized.
Who is she to tell me how much I can afford ??
She says its only a "small % of our annual income" ..Is small to you also small to me?…
Small or not Small ..why does she wanna force it down my throat and/or up my rectum??

Sounds like the NAZI health Plan.. VE have vays of making you Pay.:P~

Hunter4Obama   February 27th, 2008 1:26 am ET

If the democratic nomination comes down to the superdelgates and they don't vote according to the popular vote then I think I will not vote in the general election or will at least go green. Even if McCain gets elected, he can't be worse than GW Shrub.

Murry   February 27th, 2008 1:24 am ET

Hillary does not have a leg to stand on. The audience actually jeered when she protested Obama's defense. That point was caught by the LA Times by the way.
Her forceably going on and on about healthcare smacks of desperation.

Mark   February 27th, 2008 1:21 am ET

Tonight, Hillary was petty and discouragingly trivial. It is really high time she drops out gracefully.

Vig   February 27th, 2008 1:19 am ET

Texas and Ohio - it's up to you to put the brakes on Obama and put the train back on the tracks after it has gotten derailed by the media. Let the nominating process take it's course without undue media influence.

danthony   February 27th, 2008 1:14 am ET

She asked for an aide of his to tell her something the senator did while in office. Let's see i would've started with D.C, Washington State,South Carolina, Virginia and so on ………..

JohnS   February 27th, 2008 1:14 am ET

I agree completely with "eyeingtenure:"

I care less about healthcare issues than I do about issues such as

-moral values of this nation
-honesty in leadership
-effective interpersonal skills to bring people together
-a leader (boss) who can make me "feel" okay about myself and what I really stand for in life.

Which the candidates possess these qualities? You be the judge!!!

Obamacan!   February 27th, 2008 1:09 am ET

I think Obama has a valid point when he says that Clinton has no way to mandate her plan unless she imposes heavy fines. I think Obama's plan is better and at best, respects the common man by letting him choose.

bemused08   February 27th, 2008 12:59 am ET

The problem is — it is a big deal; when you start out asking for less than you want — you will end up with even less than you asked for.

Obama's healthcare plan is not "unversal" in that it doesn't cover everybody and his stating over and over and over again that it is doesn't make it true. (sound like somebody else we know who's in the WH right now?)

Indepdendant, not biased research organizations have debunked his position as does factcheck.org.

Atl Republican   February 27th, 2008 12:51 am ET

Healthcare is just a drop in the bucket compared to all the other issues at stake. Obama cannot stand on his own. He is on the defensive all the time.

aware   February 27th, 2008 12:46 am ET

Give me a break. All the statistics I have read favor Hillary's plan. Give it up Obama - you copied Hillary's plan and added a few embellishments that really make your plan inferior. :( You are a loser! :(

Carla   February 27th, 2008 12:46 am ET

I would like some one to tell me when the mandate part of her plan disappeared! until it does the flyer is true. She wants him to have substance behind his words and when he does and it is not flattering to her she gets mad.

Peter   February 27th, 2008 12:45 am ET

i actually thought the whole debate will be on health care, phew! it almost made me sick.

Rebecca AZ   February 27th, 2008 12:45 am ET

Hillary makes me feel like healthcare is my right as humenbeing. It has been so long that America was alive. She reminds me how good it can be. I had forgotten what a great President can do. Just like when I voted for Bill Clinton, My life was change for the good and for ever. I really truly believe with all my heart that Hillary will deliver on her Promise. America's health once and for All will be covered. Hillary what a relief, that would be I love her for trying to give us this Thank You sister you have my vote………

fornsworth for OBAMA   February 27th, 2008 12:44 am ET

Wasn't that a promise made and a promise broken. But she can do it better? First of all, we would have to be seriously mentally impaired to
to think that she would do anything more than further empty our pockets
in favor of the pharmaceutical and medical insurance companies, whose money she has taken.
She has said on tape over and over again, she would deduct premiums
directly from our paychecks. Now there is someone the insurance companies must love, big time. We need a president for us. We are footing the bill.She can cost us more than Bush.

Winkzilla   February 27th, 2008 12:43 am ET

Social security is mandatory when people are engaged in making incomes. If you are not working, your are not mandated to contribute to social security. The mandatory for social security is relational to your standing in regard to your work and income. Due to this, I do not understand Hillary Clinton when she attempts to make our mandatory social security the same as mandating everyone to pay health care premiums regardless of your standing. The two are not the same.

vote4change   February 27th, 2008 12:40 am ET

Go to factcheck.org. The mailing is accurate in it's description of her healthcare plan.

Texasguy   February 27th, 2008 12:38 am ET

Clinton rightfully should win, if she was a man she would have had the nomination wrapped up a long time ago. With here experience and her backing by major political figures, she is by far the best for the job. Obama came out of no where and gained all of this momentum and to me he is just a talker not a doer. In 4 or 8 years time he probably would be ready to be president but not now.

Dennis   February 27th, 2008 12:34 am ET

Bottom line: Both plans have mandates and Mr Obamas' plan allows more adults to opt out. The result will be we will pay taxes for a health care plan with higher premiums with his plan than with hers.

Of course with Mr. McCain, we will get no health care plan. As he plans to expand the deficit further, the youth of the nation will pay for this war in Iraq with both dollars and lives. One hundred years? I didn't even think George Bush could screw up in Iraq that bad, but maybe John McCain can. I'd rather not find out.

Brad   February 27th, 2008 12:33 am ET

They are not that far apart. Either one would have their program changed somewhat by Congress anyway.

Joyce   February 27th, 2008 12:29 am ET

Hillary is the one I will go with. She is more than excellent in the debate.

David   February 27th, 2008 12:27 am ET

SIMON SAYS, SAY PRESIDENT OBAMA

Tommy Lee   February 27th, 2008 12:22 am ET

eyeing tenure,

The differences aren't minor. Under Obama's plan, it will be business as usual on the healthcare front. Why? Because all of us who are paying for health insurance will continue to pay for those who don't. And, as at least a dozen economic experts have pointed out now, there will be MANY under Obama's plan that won't purchase the coverage.

tom   February 27th, 2008 12:20 am ET

she looked real bad talking loud dose not mean that your are saying anything. you never let them see you sweat rule number one and she failed if she wins Im moving to Alaska

Bulleto   February 27th, 2008 12:19 am ET

I prefer the Obama Health option, 'Make it AFFORDABLE but not Compulsory'. Even GOD knows what is good for mankind, but HE still gave mankind 'FREE AGENCY' to choose what they like.

Gordon Evans   February 27th, 2008 12:19 am ET

Obama still hasn't given any specifics about his "proposal" regarding health care coverage, and his campaign continually distorts Senator Clinton's very specific plan. Yet the media is like a lapdog in overlooking his shortcomings and praising his calls for "unity". He plays the race game and everybody thinks it's okay, but Hillary can't make a comment about anything without being labeled as being a "*itchy woman." I'm a male who happens to think it's about time to give a woman a chance to show that she is equal to a man.

chris   February 27th, 2008 12:19 am ET

I am 26 years old. I cannot afford health care. Hillary cannot help me and others like me. Her plan will hurt people like me. Unlike what she says, I am not immortal, nor do I think I am…. I just cannot flat out afford it.

christin   February 27th, 2008 12:18 am ET

the flyers were accurate. its all semantics! she just didn't like the way it was phrased.

and as far as her mandate would you rather be foreced to do something or would you rather choose to do something?

Georgie   February 27th, 2008 12:16 am ET

The Truth is Hillary said the Health Care she proposes would be AFFORADABLE for ALL people. What part doesn't everyone understand ? You need everyone participating to have the negotating strength or else you have left a foothold for the insurance & drug companies to get ahold of & try to control. Once again Obama comes up short on the issues.

Canadian Neighbour   February 27th, 2008 12:16 am ET

11 straight wins for Barack Obama ?? Obviously, Hillarys 'Health Care Plan' is not attracting voters. If it was so great, then she should be ahead in the polls ! Think on these things people,

Eric   February 27th, 2008 12:15 am ET

zzzzzzzzzzz. Non issue. Both plans good. Next question?

Marie   February 27th, 2008 12:13 am ET

Universal Healthcare is an important issue for many americans.
It would have been nice to have had the discussion continue at length.

Mari   February 27th, 2008 12:13 am ET

I am a lifelong liberal Democrat who is wishing and hoping Michael Bloomberg will get into this race. We need someone who can solve the enormous problems the next President will face, not an orator with empty, antiquated platitudes.We do not need a nominee who will become the parties candidate because a group of voters who are unlikely to show up for the general election, voted in the primaries.

Independent-Latina-voter, Salt Lake City, UT   February 27th, 2008 12:11 am ET

Hillary wants to keep pounding on the healthcare issue because its the only thing she's got.

Its sad to see a woman running for president that is whining about getting all the first questions! In the CNN debate it was a coin toss.

Monica, Texas   February 27th, 2008 12:10 am ET

Why won't she just answer the question….What will be the penalties for those who do not voluntarily participate in her health plan? Fines? Wage Garnishments?

john m   February 27th, 2008 12:10 am ET

Isn't it true that none did a better job than Dr. Martin Luther King in creating so much division in the racially segregated South?

Senator Clinton is our Dr. Martin Luther King.

Minty   February 27th, 2008 12:07 am ET

Hilary's point about being the first person to always answer questions in a debate is very valid. I was surprised this never came up before now.
Media spin is a very important component for any election. Consistently throwing the first question at her, allowing Obama to have the last word and then cutting off her response to show Ads most of the time is obviously unfair.
Irrespective of who is better amongst the two, the media has very obviously favored Obama in highlighting and discussing Hilary's weaknesses and his strengths. If she raised any issues about him, it is touted as unfair, exaggeration etc, if he does the same it gets minimal mention.
The biggest plus for Obama is that the media is in his pocket and he is utilizing it to hilt like a good politician should.

again with the healthcare!!   February 27th, 2008 12:06 am ET

eyeingtenure..i am right there with u. bottom line is, they both want the same thing and their plans are soooo incredibly similar. i am not making a decision on who to support due to their minor differences on health care.

heck, truth be told, BOTH candidates are sooo similar in regards to their policies, plans and experience, that for me it all comes down to whose style will work better for this country. it comes down to whose vision is greater. who can work across party lines more effectively. who do i feel can move ppl to action. who can get the job done.

right now, i gotta go with Obama.

randy   February 27th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Obama showed that it is not how long you have been in washington define your experience to lead a country,it is the ability to know when to make a good judgement.

Anonymous   February 27th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Isn't it true that none did a better job than Dr. Martin Luther King in creating so much division in the racially segregated South?

Senator Clinton is our Dr. Martin Luther King.

Mike in TX   February 27th, 2008 12:05 am ET

The mailing was no more accurate than if Clinton had mailed out a picture of someone being rushed to an emergency room with the Hospital doctor saying, "And will you be covering this with VISA or American Express?" Because his plan requires that you pay too, if you are uninsured and later require the insurance.

Would such an ad be accurate? Probably. Would it be a distortion and something we would expect to see more from Karl Rove? Yes.

jak in Pennsylvania   February 27th, 2008 12:02 am ET

HILLARY is the BEST person to provide Health care for the American people. Wake up , America. Obama is an opportunist. He knew the American people wanted change from the failed policies of Bush, so he offers what people want to hear. I don't want a cheerleader for President. EXPERIENCE is the best teacher and he doesn't have it.

Kelly Belsker   February 26th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

true

sarra   February 26th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

It is not accurate because he is the same washington politican !

eyeingtenure   February 26th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

Am I the only person who doesn't really care about the minor differences in health care coverage?

Mike   February 26th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

He also said his mailing was accurate. It is.

Angelina   February 26th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

Hillary, blah blah blah, and many other personalities. Seriously, none could do a better job than Senator Clinton in creating so much division. Anyone but Clintons and Bushes……………

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