March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
5 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. All supporters of either side!

    And Obama can't win either.........

    March 4, 2008 09:15 pm at 9:15 pm |
  2. Steve

    This is what many of us have been saying all along. The democratic primaries end tonight...or should. Hillary Clinton cannot make up the numbers from this poing forward. She would need to win 60/40 in ALL REMAINING primaries just to draw even to Senator Obama. That won't happen. It's over. Bow our gracefully please.

    March 4, 2008 09:16 pm at 9:16 pm |
  3. Aaron

    She really should bow out gracefully. She will hurt the party big time if she doesn't. So many people will be insanely angered if Obama wins the popular vote but superdelegate croneys go for her.

    March 4, 2008 09:16 pm at 9:16 pm |
  4. DONALD

    re-do the vote with fla and mich added back in....hillary wins.

    March 4, 2008 09:17 pm at 9:17 pm |
  5. Disappointed

    Rhetoric is not enough to lead this country during difficult times. Change, Hope – but how, how much will it cost.

    He is way too liberal, too much of a fraud. No one bothered to check his record and frankly, I don't want a candidate who was put in primarily by young adults who for the record, rarely vote. I know, I'm a precint warden in my city and I can count on my hand how many people under 30 come in to vote.

    My vote goes to McCain.

    March 4, 2008 09:18 pm at 9:18 pm |
  6. psburton

    Would it not be cost effective if Senator Obama simply moved his campaign HQ over to CNN?

    March 4, 2008 09:18 pm at 9:18 pm |
  7. Observant

    1 of the 2 needs to just drop out already. At this point, things are so screwed up I hope Obama drops out and let's Hillary self-destruct and lose by a landslide. At this rate, neither one will win if the petty arguing keeps going.

    March 4, 2008 09:20 pm at 9:20 pm |
  8. Aaron

    Michigan and Florida broke the rules. If your kids broke the rules don't you have to punish them. It is not some grand conspiracy they were warned repeated don't break the rules dont break the rules. What did they do? Broke the rules. If you have kids and they break the rules after you threatened to ground them you don't just let them out of being grounded... not if you're a good parent at least. Michigan and Florida broke the rules and should not be pardoned... an I am from Michigan originally with Obama supporters who still live in Mi.

    March 4, 2008 09:21 pm at 9:21 pm |
  9. Santayana2008

    Hillary is a FIGHTER!!! Typical of Obama supporters to suggest she just give in when MILLIONS of Americans still look forward to voting for her. Who knows what will happen when the Rezko slime really begins to rub off on Obama and his real estate shenanigans.

    GO HILLARY!! You are AWESOME, baby!
    Thanks Rhode Island!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  10. Black Man For Hillary

    When Obama was down by the same numbers no one was asking him to bow out. What's changed?

    Obama is afraid of superdelagates, they're would not be able to be pegged into his base.

    If I had voted my race, I would have been discarding everything that MLK stood for.... Luckily, I cast an educated ballot.

    Hillary '08

    March 4, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  11. Sarah Smith

    the sooner those chubby cheeks are out of my face the better..

    I'll vote for McCain .. COUNT ON IT!

    ANYTHING would be better than a CLINTON!

    OHIO

    March 4, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  12. Casey, Atlanta

    It looks bleak. Unfortunately, she's not going have enough time to become our Presidential candidate this year. I'm hoping Veep! Keep HOPE alive!

    Obama/Clinton for Democratic President 2008!

    March 4, 2008 09:22 pm at 9:22 pm |
  13. Donna

    SELFISH HILLARY

    SELFISH HILLARY

    SELFISH HILLARY

    SELFISH HILLARY

    SELFISH HILLARY

    SELFISH HILLARY

    One "co-presidency" is not enough for you.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  14. Jen

    Finally a non-pro Hillary article. Go Barack Obama!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  15. JANET GLAZIER

    IT'S A WIN-WIN EITHER WAY IF WE CAN KEEP MCAIN FROM WINNING!WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BUSH IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  16. Joe Sigur

    unless Hillary wins 70-30 from now on, even Michigan and Florida won't help her lead in the delegate count and she would have to get the super-delegates to go again st the will of the voters for her to become the nominee and if that happens, you have just shrunk the party by 20 to 30%...not good!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  17. Joe (Wayland, NY)

    If Democrats are ignorant enough to give the nomination to Hillary Clinton, then they are handing the race to John McCain.

    Hillary Clinton is not a uniter. She is not going to draw people into the party. For almost 2 years, I've listened to people moan and complain about the tactics of destruction, spin, and deceit. Don't fool yourselves: Hillary Clinton is just as bad as George Bush.

    I'm sad that more people can't see it.

    I would rather lose the election and play fair. Hillary Clinton might win, but Democrats will be the losers in the long run. It just proves that negativity and mud-slinging are winning tactics.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  18. Sarah Smith

    the sooner those chubby cheeks are out of my face the better..

    I'll vote for McCain .. COUNT ON IT!

    ANYTHING would be better than a CLINTON!

    OHIO shame on you..

    AFRAID of change..

    well, it will come around the corner

    might just mow you down

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  19. Demo

    McCain is laughing right now because the Republican party is united. The democrats need to be just as much so if they're going to have a prayer of overcoming the Republican machine. Unfortunately, the longer these primaries go, the longer they will become divided against one another.

    Democrats, stop arguing.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  20. derry

    I agree Florida and Michigan voters do count!!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  21. Michelle in Los Angeles

    I second what Steve said. This should end tonight. Obama has won 13 or 14 to 1, maybe two. Oh, and Donald, Hillary knew the rules before Florida, no repeat of the Florida steal 4 years ago is going to happen today.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  22. JS

    That's right...neither can Obama. Florida should count.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  23. KimForObama

    that wouldn't be fair Donald now would it? Both candidates were fully aware that those states held no delegates. The only way that it would be fair would be to hold the election again. In MI Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot so voters couldn't have voted for him if they wanted to. Now if you want to split the delegates down 50-50 then I could live with that.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  24. simple thought ?

    she who laughs last, may have the last laugh?

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  25. Ken

    Florida and Michigan BROKE the Party rules. Under NO circumstances should their delegates be allowed any votes. Rules are Rules. The idiots in those two States who decided to go ahead anyway and change the dates after they were warned have made their beds. Play by the rules or don't play at all! We here in Michigan who were Obama supporters did not vote as we were told it was'ent going to count anyway. The Democratic Party in Michigan is trying to shove Hillary down our throats ! NO WAY!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
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