March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
6 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. MJB - Decatur, GA

    Hillary will stop at nothing to win, including destroying the party. What a selfish, hateful person she is.

    March 4, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  2. Sandy

    While everyone is debating here – anyone listening to McCain's acceptance speech? He is already laying out his campaign strategy while we Democrats are still in-fighting. The simple matter is – if you have the brains to do the math – Clinton has no chance of catching up to Obama in the delegate count. The superdelegates will move to Obama. Hilliarites – give it up already.

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  3. KC

    PS even stating that I want Hillary... just to make things fair on the counting FL and MI fine do a re vote in MI due to Obama not being on the ballot, but how could anyone want a president that didn't even get himself on the ballot... Either way it turns out though I am a Democrate and I will vote Democrate.

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  4. Irene

    "well of course she'll lose texas because the republicans are out in droves voting for obama because they think he's an easy candidate to beat for mccain."

    I just got back from the Caucusing with my neighbors in Austin. I knew some of the people in the (small, very small) Hilary line and I know for a fact they're Republican

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  5. simple thought ?

    she who laughs last, may have the last laugh

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  6. R.S.

    Mr. Schneider, Hillary Does Not Have Delegate Count Problem.
    You do.
    CNN tonight must be desperate, if they have allowed such article on the election night. Count delegates already and stop speculating.
    SHAME ON YOU, CNN.

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  7. Erantha Perera

    Hi,

    I am from Sri Lanka watching the CNN coverage. It is hopelessly one sided pushing Obama. I thought this happens on in developing countries.

    CNN is campaigning hard for Obama...

    March 4, 2008 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  8. julie, ca

    If this Democratic party is to suceed, we have to unite behind Barack Obama.

    March 4, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  9. Mona, MN

    Illinois – The superdelegates should follow the crowd because the crowd is supposed to elect the president – not a few elite politicians. I would love to know how the whole concept of superdelegates was conceived because I'm sure the story make a better metaphor for high school than those calling them to vote with some form of the popular vote would.

    March 4, 2008 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  10. Nick

    Being an independent and having followed the Democratic campaign every step of the way, I believe if Hillary gets the party nomination, most independents including me will probably vote for McCain. Hillary cannot unite the country, Obama and McCain can, [in that order]

    March 4, 2008 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  11. Joshua Hightower

    I am a Florida voter and according to our governor Charlie Christ he is willing to hold another primary so that Florida's delagates count and if it turns out like the first primary Hillary Clinton will be able to make up alot of the delegates needed to catch up to Obama.

    March 4, 2008 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm |
  12. Steve -- Ohio

    As an Independent, I'm very heartened that finally young people are interested and energized by these political races. However, if the Superdelegates overturn the popular vote I'm sure that this will turn off yet another generation of young people, as this will look like more of the same old s__t.

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  13. Seth

    It's time again for a younger President with ideas and the ability to unite people...Obama is able to connect with the people of our country. Call it rhetoric if you will – I call it a rare ability to engage. I respect a lot of what Hillary wants to do, but I feel she is more of a polarizing force. We don't need that right now. We need a President who can unite our country and engage the young voters. Why should all the decisions be left up to the 40+ demographic? It's nice to see young voters getting out and getting interested in politics. The future belongs to our young citizens – why not let the 18-39 demographic have a major hand in who leads our country for the next 4-8 years?

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  14. jes

    As sit here Listening to McCain ican see Usa going down the toilet !!Some choice an arrogant old fart & an ignorant Inexperience incompetent. Mexico already owns you & you all are to stupid to seeit.

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  15. Ashley

    Is it because he's black Kimberly (responding to your post that he and his wife are too sickening to look at)

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  16. Katie

    If they want to change the rules with regards to the superdelegates then they should also do the same with Florida & Michigan.

    Howard Dean already gave an interview today saying that the superdelegates should vote independently as that has always been the rule. And he also said that Florida & Michigan are not counted as that would bend the rules already applied before the contest started.

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  17. wagi

    barrack supporters are naive! they think fancy phrases can make a president. let's see what these young people think when they are standing in the unemployment line after barack screw the economy!

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  18. for our children

    for sake of our children, our future, Hillary, do not bow out! We do need you! I will vote only for Hillary. Only for her.

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  19. Mr Din, Nevada

    Well.. Hillary very much won RI, OH (regarless court oder to keep open) , and possibly TX

    Why Barack's supporters ask Hillary to drop out?....have you think that Both of them still along way to win..

    March 4, 2008 10:08 pm at 10:08 pm |
  20. morrow

    OK, so does that mean the superdelegates should follow the national superdelegate total or the individual state totals? I suspect that there could be a signficant difference here, since a lot more of the superdelegates come from big states (which Clinton has won). If Dems really want to win in Nov. they should be looking at the electoral college, which is allocated by state.

    There are other ways to parse this too, since it's quite possible that the pledged delegate count may be different than the total vote count.

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  21. Bliss

    "Tough time never last but tough people do"
    "Winners don't quit and quiters don't win"
    "It's not over until it's over"
    Sen. Hillary clinton campaign continue... this is how to be a fighter and a winner in democracy.

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  22. Duh

    Nicolas March 4th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

    If Barack is not so popular with the young voters that by the way because of media hype, HE will not be in this election and that's causing us this agony. HILLARY!

    Darn those young people!!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  23. jmac

    There is such a thing as honor, and Hillary Clinton has none. I'm not suggesting that she should drop out of this race, I simply urge her to attempt to to win her party's nomination in a more honorable manner (as did Mike Huckabee). By the end of this election she would have sealed her fate as a power-hungry politician whose scorched earth tactics were motivated by a desperate attempt to return to the white house, divided her party, cost a decent man an opportunity to change the way Washington works, and focused the crux of her campaign on portraying Obama in a manner that she KNOWS is misleading. Good luck, because no democracy deserves a self-serving politician like this

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  24. tsmith

    Bill: Another example of the most over-hyped commentator on today's American political stage. Could you give us a little in depth analysis to go along with that so called punditry. So, because Obama wins the most states he wins the most super-delegates? Or is it possible that the larger states Clinton has won have more super delegates? No wait, don't bother to give informed analysis; just throw out something with your name on it. Quick!

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
  25. R.I.

    America brace yourselves for another 8 years of Republican rule – and this time, they'll be overwhelmingly supported than in the Bush era. McCain will have a landslide, but if Clinton is nominated she will have a 'mudslide'. She can't talk 'experience' before McCain, she can't criticize the war she willingly voted for before McCain. She can't talk foreign policy before McCain.
    The Democrats are on the brink of a costly MISTAKE. Nominate Clinton and lose in November – period.

    March 4, 2008 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm |
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