March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
5 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. chris

    one person on here got it right - obama IS a uniter. i consider myself a conservative and am disallusioned big time with mccain. if it is mccain vs obama, i will likely not vote (although i am struggling with maybe...voting for obama). if it is mccain vs hillary, i WILL vote...my vote will be against hillary....

    March 4, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  2. Chuck

    Nonsense. Super Delegates have a lot more experience and knowledge on what it takes to win a general election. The future of the country is at stake. If after everything said and done it looks like there won't be a clear winner, the party has to look at where the wins were and where the wins are needed to beat the Republicans. It is that simple. Look at the big picture folks. Don't get hung up on a name – win the Presidency and then worry about who is who. Enough of the Republicans.

    March 4, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  3. FraninLA

    What exactly are you Obama voters so scared of? Why would you even suggest Hillary quit when she sitll has the support of millions. She just won Rhode Island and it looks like Ohio and maybe Texas. To ask her to quit now means you're afraid she just might pull the biggest come back ever. Look at what McCain just did, he came from nowhere and is now the winner. Never, ever count out a Clinton. I like Obama and if he wins I have no problem voting for him over McCain, but I think Hillary just may do what everyone said she could not do.
    And don't forget this.. the Governor of Florida said he is willing to pay for another election and if Hillary comes back to town with the big states under her belt, she will most likely win there again and then who has the most deligates.

    March 4, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  4. Darryl

    GO OBAMA!!!!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  5. Lisa

    Its unbelievable!!!
    What is up with the media bias.
    They are so pro Obama its scary!!!!
    Yes, you too CNN!!!!!!
    It's insulting.

    March 4, 2008 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  6. Tim

    She is killing the party! I like what analysts are saying that she is doing the dirty work for the republicans and all McPain is doing is sitting back and laughing!

    Everyone remember.... she has been going negative for weeks now! Shes grasping to see what negative attack sticks.

    March 4, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  7. Aaron F

    I would bet that the nomination is going to Obama on the Democratic side. Anytime that the media goes to great lengths to explain that an event is interesting or exciting, then look again. Its cut and dry, Obama has the numbers, Hillary doesn't. Please step aside, "Hildog."

    March 4, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  8. Rex, Toledo, Ohio

    For what it's worth, I apologize to those Americans that truly want a positive change for America.
    I did my best to educate people in my State about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, but to no avail. See, Ohioans for the most part fall right into the Clinton demographic.
    However, although Ohio decided that they couldn't care less about the rest of the country, doesn't mean that Obama doesn't have this locked up. He does. Will Clinton drop out? Nope, she sure won't.

    March 4, 2008 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm |
  9. Raynald

    Watching from Canada ,on C.N.N .
    I'm not voting in your country ,but surely hope Obama, will be your next president .

    March 4, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  10. Lana; FORMER lifelong liberal democrat

    WHAT DELEGATE PROBLEM? Remember, the media and the pollsters agree, it's what the people want...........right?

    March 4, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  11. Denise

    First of all, for all of you non-readers, the article says that the primary winner should be the nominee. Meaning, whoever ends up with the most pledged delegates. All of your wishing and stupid remarks about Barack Obama does not change that fact. The Hillary supporters are almost as mean as she is. Get over yourselves. Yes, there is a black man running for President and yes, he is a credible and viable candidate. Can you handle the truth? I didn't think so.

    March 4, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  12. cindy

    I now see exactly why the Democrats can't win for trying. I didn't see a snowball chance for a Republican to get back to the White House. I sure wasn't going to vote for one.

    But when it comes to Obama againist McCain, I'll be voting on McCain. Being in the military not a snowball chance in heck would I vote for Obama. The man says he's like JFK, would that mean I'd have to watch him make the same mistakes, with the Bay of Pigs, or Vietnam. LBJ just got straddled with what Kennedy started.

    If anyone else had of made the nomination, I'd have voted Democrat. What a waste.

    March 4, 2008 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  13. Oregonian RN

    Hilary is out to win at all costs and it's plain to see by the dirty politics she's playing. It's nothing new. She still insists she did the right thing by voting for the war even tho there were plenty of us "dumb" citizens out here who knew by then that it was the wrong thing to do!!
    She will say anything to get elected, and now she is destroying the democratic party. I will have a VERY hard time voting for her if she gets the nomination.... and I USED to like her!! I'm a 52 year old woman, and I feel she's sold us out.
    Michigan and Florida should count ONLY if there is NEW race in those states.... Is it fair to count delegates when a candidate who DID play by the rules didn't invest the time there that she did? I do not trust Hilary...I'd rather have McCain answer that phone at night than her!! (But I'm still hoping for a chance to vote for Obama)

    March 4, 2008 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  14. Floridian

    Clinton will Rap this up. Clinton will get Florida delegates soon enough.

    Wow, This is a victory for Clinton where she is at now, screw this article. Your not going to difuse this flame.

    March 4, 2008 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  15. RAFi68

    if the people from michigan and florida dont get counted , they will not vote for the democract in november especially for obama because they will remenber that he said florida those not count and the republican party will remind it to then ..... so that have to be careful how they want to take this , think people think..

    March 4, 2008 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  16. JzB

    If Sen. Hillary did`t win in the big margin in Texas and Ohio, that is a good indication that she should drop out for the sake of Democratic party.

    March 4, 2008 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  17. anita

    Can your candidate punch as much as they can take a punch and still keep fighting?

    No retreat, no surrender when you face the GOP

    March 4, 2008 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm |
  18. Greg, Phoenix, AZ

    Shocker.

    A Clinton putting their own political interests ahead of those of the party.

    March 4, 2008 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm |
  19. Bren

    The wheels are not going to fall off the Obama Train.

    I am a 45 year old white woman. Trust me when I say I would have loved to have voted for Hillary.

    However, I will not vote for a candidate based only on the subject of gender.

    Hillary has disgusted me with her negative campainging. Had I been an undecided voter, that alone would have pushed me over the edge to voting for Obama. But I looked at the facts with more of a critical eye. I went to Obama's website. I read about his ideas, and, yes, his rhetoric, and then made my decision: at the age of 45, I'm too young to be a cynic.

    My vote goes to the overwhelmingly new challenge to 'politics as usual. My vote goes to Obama.'

    March 4, 2008 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm |
  20. Janey,Naples, Florida

    Don't count Hillary out at all. If Obama had to endure the beating that the media has given Hillary, he would have folded his tent and cried wee wee wee all the way home. She is a strong woman, you know, the kind that macho men are scared to death of. When men (I use that term lightly) like Tim Russert uses on his show a poll that gave an opinion on "rhymes with rich" (check Sunday's Meet the Press) for Hillary's qualities, you know why the media is skewed toward Obama. These opinion show host must be held accountable for sexist discrimination.

    March 4, 2008 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm |
  21. Joanna Ridlehuber

    We must have someone that is going to stop our jobs leaving the USA. How are we going to continue if other states get the jobs?
    JR

    March 4, 2008 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
  22. Jen

    I'm sorry, but for me Barack Obama is the only decent person left in the Presidential race. If Hillary wins, I simply will not vote. She is tearing the Democratic party apart by staying in this race and helping her buddy McCain win. It makes me feel disgusted.

    HILLARY IS SO SELFISH!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
  23. Davis

    It matters not. The only thing John McCain can win for Presidency is for AARP. I feel sorry for any Republican who tries to follow the absolute disaster that have been the Bush years.

    March 4, 2008 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
  24. Change Agent 008

    If the superdelegate process is going to be questioned then the caucus process needs to be questioned. Both give a few powerful voices the right to make decisions for the many. Caucuses are a relic of the past and should be done away with. One person, one vote is only way to try to be fair.

    March 4, 2008 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
  25. FA

    "Would it not be cost effective if Senator Obama simply moved his campaign HQ over to CNN?"

    CNN is shamelessly pushing Obama and leaving behind their hard earned credibility. This is a disgrace!

    March 4, 2008 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm |
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