March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
5 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. Adam

    i cant believe this crazy mess. Dean should be fired as the head of the DNC. The dems had a prime and perfect opportunity to UNITE. ITS apparent to us an OBAMA/CLINTON or CLINTON/OBAMA ticket would unite the dems and potentially the country.

    each will carry thier momentum and voters to the national election.

    This was the ULTIMATE unification of the party and it appears as if the dems will squander it and the Republicans WILL recapture the white house and saddle us with another 4 years of George Bushes policies.

    March 4, 2008 09:23 pm at 9:23 pm |
  2. Patrick

    Reinstate and redo Florida and Michigan voters!!

    ALso Hillary will win all the big states: New York, CAli, Texas and Ohio!

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  3. John

    If Clinton wins RI, OH and TX tonight, Obama should consider dropping out. He had three opportunities to knock her out. He can't close the deal. So either he drops out or we stop talking about anyone dropping out.

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  4. Ken in Western NY

    Hillary can't win even if they re-do the primaries in Florida and Michigan. She is too far behind in pledged delegates.

    If she stays in the race, she will only sling more mud Obama's way, and that will only push more people toward McCain.

    She needs to bow out and support Obama. This would show she really is putting the Democratic party before her own selfish ambition.

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  5. Illinois

    And just who are these "democrats"?? Independents and Republicans disguising themselves as democrats? The superdelegates should perform their job the way it was originally intended......cast an independent vote based on their judgment of who would be the best president.

    Anyone who says the superdelegates should vote based on the way their districts voted displays the thinking patterns of an adolescent......just follow the crowd because it's the "in" thing to do. Don't use your own brain to figure things out for yourself; simply allow other people to do your thinking for you. And if they can pressure you to vote their way, so much the better. Why isn't anyone talking about the Obama supporters who are THREATENING the superdelegates in an attempt to get them to vote for Obama?? Of course Obama knows this is being done, which speaks volumes to what this man is really about and what he's capable of. This is NOT a man of positive change or hope.......he is no better than the corrupt and/or terroristic people he says he is against.

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  6. pa mom

    Donald is right...we are missing two important states in the current delegate count. We need to win the election. Winning small states does not make you president.

    DO WE want four more years of Republican leadership?

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  7. N.Y. for Obama

    If the vote is redone in mich and fla. Obama will win, you must remember she only won because Obama did not campaign in those states.

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  8. slax

    well of course she'll lose texas because the republicans are out in droves voting for obama because they think he's an easy candidate to beat for mccain.

    March 4, 2008 09:24 pm at 9:24 pm |
  9. Kimberly

    I am totally disgusted with Obama threatening to sue Ohio if they don't re open the polls. Poor baby... just cause he is loosing. Him and his wife are too sickening to even look at!

    March 4, 2008 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  10. Margie Miller

    The press this evening, with the exception of Tom Brocaw, have tried their best to make Hillary out to be a villain for running a campaign designed to help her become the Democratic candidate. They have spent the evening castigating her. To all the media at MSNBC but Tom Brocaw, who is too much a gentleman to join in piling on her, I say, "shame on you!"

    March 4, 2008 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  11. Southerner

    Having the superdelegates vote with the primary results works fine... in PRIMARY states. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason that superdelegates in caucus states should have to vote proportionally to the caucus results. It is not the will of the people. It's not a result of a fair, proportional vote. It's a loaded, political process no different than letting superdelegates vote their conscience.

    March 4, 2008 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  12. MF

    Why on EARTH should she bow out? Almost half the democrats want her and suggesting that she should concede show incredible bias and a lack of respect for democracy.

    The fact that as Floridians our votes don't matter to the Democrats, doesn't mean Clinton shouldn't get them.

    Furthermore, if anyone thinks Obama can beat McCain, they misunderstand the voting public. Obama is the divisive candidate now and just like with Kerry the media are far too close to see it.

    March 4, 2008 09:25 pm at 9:25 pm |
  13. Susan

    CNN – could you please just stop with the venom until people have finished voting? Are you so worried that Obama might lose?

    Go Hillary – ignore this stuff.

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  14. Anonymous

    The old world Democrat hold is losing grip and new world true liberal party roots grows back in power in Obama.

    With the Texas delegate count, Obama's lead is substantial!

    For the democratic process, bring on Florida and Michigan. Realize Obama didn't campaign there and there is a large African American pop there. He would do quite well in Florida and in Michigan I believe almost as many people there voted undecided than voted for Clinton.

    Electability people. HRC's strengths of military support and experience compared to Obamas are smashed when you compare her to McCain. The right knows they can beat Clinton, but not Obama.

    Vote Obama 2008

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  15. Mario Somalia

    seriously CNN, this bias has got to stop, let her enjoy her victory night

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  16. Joseph

    It is time the Democratic race is done. Hillary will not catch up with Obama until June. If she chooses to continue, the Democrats will be divided. Hillary will continue to divide the party paving way for the Republicans to win the White House. The superdelegates and Democratic politicians should take part now or the Republicans will again take the White House.

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  17. ....

    Lol,she winning MI? Yeah right,I can see her winning in Detroit,NOT.

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  18. Daniel

    When the truth comes out about Barack, everyone will be wondering why the press didn't do their job sooner. Not only did we lose some terrific candidates early on, but McCain is really the stronger candidate. I'd rather have character and substance in a President.

    March 4, 2008 09:26 pm at 9:26 pm |
  19. Grif

    I Say Again!!! A-way-to-go. John Mccain... Just a plain......

    USA American Again.....

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  20. Melanie

    John King spoke words of truth! Mrs Clinton if you have dignity you would bow out. (because even with Michigan and Florida, you would still not have enough votes)

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  21. MF

    Why on EARTH should she bow out? Almost half the democrats want her and suggesting that she should concede show incredible bias and a lack of respect for democracy.

    The fact that as Floridians our votes don't matter to the Democrats, doesn't mean Clinton shouldn't get them.

    Furthermore, if anyone thinks Obama can beat McCain, they misunderstand the voting public. Obama is the divisive candidate now and just like with Kerry the media are far too close to see it.

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  22. Marlene

    I'm so sick of hearing about FL and Michigan. Hillary agreed along with everyone else that the votes in those states wouldn't count. But of course, she couldn't resist going against the grain to campaign there, then have the gall to actually try to insist that the votes count. Doesn't everyone know by now that Obama wasn't even on the ballot? She doesn't deserve to be president, she's a lunatic.

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  23. David Arbuckle

    It's time for Hillary to say good bye.

    She was corronated the Nominee months ago and she got over confident. Now a better Orator has come along who seems to be able to capture the imagination of both Democrats and Republicans.

    This is the Republican Party's worse nightmare.

    Beating Hillary was no problem, but beating a Black Rock star Politician that has more charisma then John Kennedy is going to be tough. especially with an old crusty guy like McCain.

    He is George Bush on laxatives. He hasn't a chance

    My two cents,

    Dave Arbuckle

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  24. ANTI CLINTONS

    Donald, you are the same kind of loser tha tthe Clintons, thiose two states screwed themselves out of where they are right now. So go re-do your brain! Onama wins and that is it.

    March 4, 2008 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  25. Pamela

    New Yorkers are waiting for the wicked witch to come back home.....Good bye Hillary....

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
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