March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
5 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. Anonymous

    what I hear here is in fighting amost the party.....Rep will have a field day with us.

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  2. Niko

    The voters have spoken. Drop out, Hillary. We need to patch up the party. Any Hillary voter that swings to McCain should grow up. Don't vote for someone out of spite for another. Be a better person and vote for the candidate with the same voting record as the one you just voted for. If you do vote for McCain, don't ever complain about the Bush Whitehouse again because you're voting to do the same thing over again (God help us).

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  3. xx

    And he can not win either

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  4. Dusacre

    What is waiting for democrats in November if Hillary is the nominee?

    I would like to remind you of the prophetic words of a dead man, late Rev. Jerry Falwell: “I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate. I hope she's the candidate, because nothing will energize my (constituency) like Hillary Clinton. If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't”

    If Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Democrats' presidential nominee in 2008, it will motivate republicans to oppose her more than if the devil himself were running.

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  5. mother too

    because Florida And Michigan broke rules, the people of these states do not exist? How fair it is? They should be given another chance at least. this is outrageous.

    I am really disgusted by this system now, it is not fair, it is not right the way the elections go. The smarter one -Hillary – is being pushed away with such a force from her opposition,

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  6. Cam Towers Jones

    It is shocking,indeed, to realize there are still people in this country willing to ignore the serious character flaws plaguing Hillary Clinton. First, she is not a woman whose word can be trusted: witness her agreement that Michigan and Florida primary votes would not be counted . . .until she realized she could only pursue her ambitions if she abandoned her word, ignored her previous her comitment, and denied her earlier promises and agreements in order to include Florida and Michigan in her corner.
    Second, she cannot admit she ever makes a mistake. And those who do not acknowledge their mistakes are doomed forever to repeat their errors. Witness her disengenuousness and lies about her vote on this foolish war. Witness next her failed universal health care plan from 1994. Hillary refused tthen o approach this enormous probelm is manageable segments , and she refuses now. Hillary has learned nothing from an experience that should have left her humbled and open to some new ideas. Unfortunately, she truly believes her judgment is superior to everyone else's.–go look in a mirror, Hillary. It's time for some serious introspection.

    March 4, 2008 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  7. Mike

    Fl and Mich broke the rules...

    March 4, 2008 09:56 pm at 9:56 pm |
  8. Andrew

    Many of Obama's wins & delegates come from states which held caucuses rather than primaries. It's hard to say that he's the democratic choice when his victory comes by such undemocratic methods.

    March 4, 2008 09:56 pm at 9:56 pm |
  9. psburton

    Sources say Obama congratulates McCain and looks forward to running against him in the Fall?
    Pardon us Lord Barack but perhaps thee would condescend to be crowned by someone other then CNN and your worshipful disciples before speaking as the Nominee to the GOP leader.

    March 4, 2008 09:56 pm at 9:56 pm |
  10. John

    Hillary was the only candidate with the unscrupulous, desperate greed it took to run on the ballot in Michigan and Florida. She ran unopposed, due to the other candidates sense of playing by the rules. Based on this, it should be clearly impossible and unfair to count those votes.
    The Democratic party delegates have a clear and pressing obligation to support the peoples nomination. That's what democracy means; the people decide, not representatives. How can a Democrat act like a Republican? Remember this???After 45 years of Democratic party leadership on the hill, people got tired of false promises and gave the majority to the GOP. Now after 8 years of Bush, the Dems have this huge opportunity to prove they are the peoples party. If they give the Nomination to her in spite of the popular vote, the party will be destroyed, mad Dems, Independants and swing Republicans will flood over to support McCain, and we will be continuing backwards another 4 years.

    March 4, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  11. sim

    oh plz...stop it...florida and MI knew the rules before they voted-rules are rules, cant go back on that-besides i dont think they care about they votes not counted, they knew the rules but just just wanted to vote anyway, no harm in that....it's seems the only ones who did'nt complain about it were the michigans and floridans--It's OVER bow out gracefully hillary so we can move on to the stragegy of beating the republicans

    March 4, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  12. SUE, Michigan

    Go Hillary! Great showing tonight-keep the faith and keep going. Your message is being heard, and Obama is FINALLY coming under scrutiny. I'm not as concerned about the super-delgates as I am about Michigan and Florida being COUNTED! The DNC should be ashamed of itself. Had you counted our votes. this WOULD be over, because Hillary would be far ahead. She won Florida even with him on the ballot, and she won a HUGE victory in Michigan. So count us, already!
    And Steve, it doesn't look to me that she's lost. She's WAY ahead in Ohio, and catching up in Texas...sorry, but this ain't over yet, folks! Run Hillary, RUN!

    March 4, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  13. Sherylanne

    Clinton won the BIG states but CNN didn't think that was news.

    Kennedy backs Obama and Clinton wins his state... again CNN didn't think that was newsworthy.

    It's far from over; the fat lady ain't gonna sing tonight.............

    March 4, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  14. IJ

    sooooooo...
    why doesn't she drop out again?

    oh bc she thinks she can win via superdelegates and split the democratic party in half, that way the democrats are so divided mccain wins on a political year it was GIFT WRAPPED FOR THE DEMOCRATS!!!

    sigh...

    March 4, 2008 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  15. mess

    I am sick and tired of this icon Obama.
    We need sober, sane, normal president, steady one, strong one. Not this never ending "oh, I did not mean that or that"

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  16. Kokulan Mahendiran

    Her being on the board of walmart ages ago has nothing to do with anything. Under her plan employees of walmart WILL get healthcare. Obviously, her experience there has showed her how much they suffer, and she has consequently decided to help them out, along with millions of other americans.

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  17. GCS

    Who believes this blog is uncensored or neutral?

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  18. james

    SO MUCH FOR SO CALLED DEMOCRACY IN US.

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  19. Well Seasoned

    I don't know what the good folks in Michigan will do but I know a goodly handful of Floridians that will cross over and vote Republican if our delegates aren't seated at the Democratic Convention. If we don't count there, don't count on us in the general election.

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  20. Sukie

    And so we will have Obama the Cheerleader and not -so-honest presidential nominee.

    Way to go, young America!

    My Democratic vote will go to someone other than Obama. I just don't trust him.

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  21. gabriel danaher

    Thanks for the censorship – CNN does not post any criticism of the coverage

    March 4, 2008 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  22. SH

    Why not ask Obama to bow out, Hillary has won most of the BIG Democratic states?

    Don't like that? Didn't think you would.

    Until we have a clear winner neither should drop out. Grow up, this is an election. We will eventually have a nominee, don't be so impatient.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  23. Mike

    Didnt Tom Brokaw this morning say that Obama had 50 new superdelegates behind him he was ready to announce? If thats true, it shows that the superdelegates are starting to lean towards the candidate the country wants as a whole.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  24. Nick Valentine

    I'm an Ohioan and voted Democrat for the first time in my life and it wasn't because of Rush Limbaugh. I supported McCain in 2000 and also this year until he accepted the endorsement of pastor Hagee. Hagee is a known anti- catholic and there is no room for him in any party that I belong to. I'd rather vote for Obama or Clinton (which I did) than support someone who accepts this type of endorsement. It flies in the face of the independence that attracted me to Senator McCain in the first place. The religious right does not represent all of us, particularly Catholic Americans.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  25. AM

    After the 2000 election, which saw the Democratic candidate win the general election and lose the presidency, dems are in no mood for anything but transparency and straight up democracy. Superdelegates are deluded if they think they have a real choice as to whom they should support. They MUST follow the will of the people of each of their respective states. This nomination will not be won by a landslide for either candidate and so nothing but transparency and majority rule will give the mantle of legitimacy to the winner.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
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