March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
6 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. Jenny

    This is absolutely double standards for Obama to judge if superdelegate is important or not.

    When superdelegates go to Hillary, CNN and OBAMA doubt this election rule is fair or not; when superdelegates go to Obama, CNN and OBAMA say it will be bad news for Hillary, which means she would have no chance to catch up OBAMA!

    How ridiculous of this logics?

    Shame on you-CNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Look at now, RI, OH and TX will be Hillary's momentumn!!!

    GO Hillary 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  2. c feltner

    FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE MEDIA IN GENERAL SHOULD BE ASHAMED ON THEIR COVERAGE OF THIS ELECTION. OF ALL BROADCASTS AND FOLLOW UPS THE MEDIA IN GENERAL HAVE DOWN PLAYED HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN AND BELITTLED HER EVERY MOVE AND SPOKE WORD. ON THE SAME TOKEN HAVE PRAISED OBAMMA IN EVERYTHING HE HAS SAID OR DONE. EACH PERSON HAS A MIND OF THEIR OWN AND IS ENTITLED TO CHOICE OF OPPINION, AS I RESPECT THAT, HOWEVER THE MEDIA AND ITS COVERAGE IS ALMOST SUBLIMINALLY SWAYING THE VOTE IN FAVOR OF OBAMMA. LET THE CANDIDATES RUN THE RACE FOR THEMSELVES AND THE VOICE OF EVERY VOTER WILL BE HEARD!

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  3. Brenda

    What about Florida and Michigan?? Its easy said redo FL primary – but its us taxpayer's money going for the rerun drama. Hilary won fairly here in FL and she deserves to be given credit for it. MI is another story cos Obama was not in the ballot. Its makes sense to go by popular votes if all the states had primaries.Most states Obama won are caucuses and that is the opinion of select few , not the majority of the democrats in those states. Won't it be great if democrats changed their confusin ways atleast by 2012 ?????

    Either way, I have this gut feeling Mccain is going to walk into the Whitehouse in Novemeber cos Democrats are so messed up .

    Lets hope and pray whatever happens ,happens for the best of the country and come Novemeber, we can all go back to living lives hoping we are safe and happy.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  4. psburton

    If one looks at the time track of comments, why is it Pro-Obama posters pop up seconds after they comment and Pro-Clinton posts are twenty minutes out of cue?

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  5. David

    We can beat McCain anyway. Don't give in to his and Limbaugh's fear and gloom strategies, trying to scare the American people. America is always stronger with courage and vision, and both Barack and Hillary offer more courage and vision than McCain.

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  6. just another woman

    as a latina pollster, Hillary will never make it to the white house is she is dependent on my vote.
    I WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN!

    March 4, 2008 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  7. Jim S.

    If Hillary is on the ticket, Democratic supporters of Obama will sway to McCain, and the Dems lose the election. There is no way Hillary can defeat McCain, because Dems who don't support her, don't trust her.

    March 4, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  8. Jack

    According to the latest results, Hillary is winning Ohio and by a good lead. I am so sick and tired of "the best political team on television" trying to throw this race to Obama. Between the unfair and unbalanced news on Fox and the liberal side of CNN that wants Obama to win the nomination, there is no truly fair or balanced reporting anywhere on television.

    I miss the days when CNN provided the news without bias and lived up to their reputation.

    March 4, 2008 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm |
  9. Mr Nelson from Dallas

    I think we are seeing the end of CNN as being a credible news source. This Shneider piece (manufactured news) is so thinly veiled it will be studied in history books 20 years from now on when journalism died.

    The backlash to the media is occurring and they are sweating bullets

    March 4, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  10. Joel

    Donald, you should work for the media. Add in Michigan (where he wasn't on the ballot) and Florida (both agreed not to campaign) and it is still an even race. Good try.

    March 4, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  11. Christine D

    Could happen if the wheels keep falling off the Obama train.

    March 4, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  12. Stamford

    Senator Obama has not won the parties votes. Delgates or no delegates. He can't unite the party. He won't unite the country. This needs to go to the end. We have never had such interest in a campaign. This will get out the voters and help the Dems. Obama needs a new pillow. The one he has is worn out.

    March 4, 2008 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  13. Eric Keller, Detroit, Michigan

    I think that the Super Delegates ought to feel obligated to vote in a way that is consistent with the popular vote. Even if that means voting for the candidate who may NOT beat Mcain. I am an Obama supporter and I think that he has the better chance of beating Mccain in the general election, but I think that the popular vote should not be overturned by the super delegates. Either way, the super delegate should represent the people...At large delegates, could possibly balance things out by voting for the candidate who they feel is best, but if both at large and super delegates voted based on their opinion on who can win the general election, than that is not fair to the people.

    March 4, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  14. Ross Nicholson

    The voters don't know that Obama is cheating. In many of his states (the primaries Obama has won where they allow cross-over voting or caucuses) about 40% of Obama's voters are treacherous crazed 'anti-hillary' republicans who will mostly vote for McCain in November.
    The super delegates will remember that both Florida and Michigan will have Hillary Clinton on their ballots unless their delegations are seated and counted in Denver. Obama cannot win unless Florida and Michigan are seated, because he will not be allowed on their ballots. Hillary is ahead if cheating is not allowed. Not rule cheating, voter cheating. Hillary won both Florida and Michigan by landslide margins.

    March 4, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  15. Tommy, Orlando, FL

    it's all the media fault... trying to shove Obama down our throats... only the young and stupid would believe in the media.

    March 4, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  16. Neal

    SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON PROJECTED WINNER OF RHODE ISLAND! .........GO HILLARY!!! HILLARY 08!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  17. KC Atlanta

    The superdelegates will want to see the person nominated that will have the best chance to beat John McCain in Nov. All you Dem's' out there should understand this. Hillary Clinton is the one to do this. Neither Obama nor Clinton can will have the 2025 needed when this is over. Superdelegates will vote for the person that can WIN..

    Hillary= experience=The Next Democratic President of The United States of America!!!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  18. Eric Keller, Detroit, Michigan

    In MI and FL , the DNC rules should prevail, even though consequently my vote as a Michigan resident will not count. It is the only just way. But next time around EVERY vote should be counted irrelevent of whether or not the states choose to hold their primarys early. FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN SHOULD NOT BE SEATED...PERIOD!!

    March 4, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  19. themilliondollarmarch

    GO McCain!

    The Million Dollar March

    The Million Dollar March Review

    March 4, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  20. Pennsylvania

    We Just been through 16-years of LIES! It's time to wake up and vote for an honest President!!!

    Go President Barack Obama!!!!!!

    March 4, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  21. Molly

    Denise is right – it is not over yet !!!!Hillary is showing the kind of focus and persistence she will demonstrate in getting healthcare untangled , stopping this war and working on both sides of the aisle. Barach come back in 8 years..

    March 4, 2008 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  22. Jarrett the intelligent

    Obama hasn't unleashed ANY of his bag of tricks on Hillary. Now that she has proven to be the instigator of division, look for Obama to attack much more proficiently and intensely.

    March 4, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  23. jessica

    I'm from Mich and HIGHLY disappointed in what my states Supreme Court did and what position they left us in. If, by some slim chance, the delegates count – how would it be showing the democratic process?? Obama wasnt even on the ballot! We had a campaign to make sure those who didnt want hilary to vote uncommitted – and that was was 40% of the vote. She only got 55%...and that's against an uncommitted. Imagine if she had gone against a true candidate who really could speak to the people of Michigan who want change!

    I'd rather vote republican than for another clinton....hands down.

    March 4, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  24. Anonymous

    i am a registered democrat and its simple for me, if Obama wins, i vote McCain for he has the experience and the wisdom to carry us forward.

    Obama is a smooth talker and I dont trust him (maybe the Canadians do)

    March 4, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  25. DONALD

    thank you all for the open dialog on florida and michigan.

    to those of you who made intelllegentcomments on either side....you showed the kind of debate we should have.

    to you with less than intellegent comments......sry for you'

    d

    March 4, 2008 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
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