March 4, 2008
Posted: 09:12 PM ET

(CNN) – It’s interesting to take a look at the white vote in both Texas and Ohio. Clinton only holds a 1 point lead among these voters in Texas, but in Ohio her advantage is much stronger — she's beating Obama among whites there by 23 points, 61 percent to 38 percent.

Why the disparity? I suspect it has to do with the economy. It’s a larger issue for Ohio voters than those in Texas, and Clinton has a stronger advantage among those worried about the economy in Ohio than those in Texas. Her closing ads in Ohio largely focused on her ability to deal with the economy, and she sharply criticized Obama for an advisor's comment to a Canadian official about NAFTA — a key issue among many of the state's working class whites.

Related: CNN Political Researcher Alan Silverleib analyzes Ohio exit polls

–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton • Ohio • Texas


simple thought ?   March 4th, 2008 9:22 pm ET

dose this mean that those like Kerry, Kennedy will have to vote for Clinton since she won there?

Santayana2008   March 4th, 2008 9:23 pm ET

Is it politically correct to thank white people for voting for Hillary? It's hard to tell these days.

Black Man For Hillary   March 4th, 2008 9:24 pm ET

RACE has everything to do with this contest and it's a sad, sad thing.

If I had voted my race instead of my conscience, I'd have completely discarded everything that MLK and the Civil Rights movement stood for…

anonymous   March 4th, 2008 9:25 pm ET

White voters in rural Ohio are HIGHLY uneducated. In addition, if you look at the demographics of the state, have had limited contact with african americans or anyone else in general. Its a shame that outside the MAJOR cities in ohio, they are living in a white bubble.

John   March 4th, 2008 9:26 pm ET

Economy?…it's more about politically uneducated white voters. If the economy was most important to them, why are they voting for someone who has publicly defended NAFTA, lobbyist, enforced health insurance and tried to take part credit for failed foreign trade policy? Clinton campers must be handing out a lot of free drugs or these folks just plain don't get it. Sad state of affairs in Ohio…

Dee   March 4th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I don't hear anyone saying those white voters are racist but what have we heard about the AA voters in SC and LA. We still have issues in this country; major issues and it is sad.

KimForObama   March 4th, 2008 9:27 pm ET

I don't think it's the economy that is the difference between Ohio and Texas but the fact that Ohio is one of most segregated states that I've ever been to. I have been to places where people from all walks of life peacefully co-exist but in Ohio the only time you see different races of folk together is at sporting events. Just read some of the stuff written from every day citizens in Ohio and compare that to Texas and you'll understand where I'm coming from.

Jen   March 4th, 2008 9:28 pm ET

Stop generalizing white people, or people of any racial group, please! There is diversity among people of various racial groups. Thanks! GO BARACK OBAMA– YOU APPEAL TO SO MANY PEOPLE!!!

INDEPENDENT   March 4th, 2008 9:29 pm ET

IF OBAMA WINS MCCAIN HAS MY VOTE. AT LEAST I CAN TRUST HIM. SO I GUESS THIS INDEPENDENT IS LEANING REPUBLICAN

Jim in Oregon   March 4th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

It's very early in Ohio , this thing can still flip before the night is over.

James   March 4th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

It is because the negative campaign works with the Ohio population, negative types suffering the effects of their negative outlook. Ohio voted for Bush in 2008 need I say more.

Shannon - Dallas   March 4th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

What an exciting day to be an American! I just got back from my caucus and it was a MAD house! We actually ran out of forms to write down votes on. And what was interesting to me was the African American turn out vs. the white turn-out. My area is pre-dominately white, however the caucus was 90-95% African American. Any ideas as to why? There were a lot of Obama supporters too. Yay

Anonymous   March 4th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Democratic presidential contender John Edwards on Monday criticized former President Clinton, arguing that he allowed corporate insiders to shape the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement and sacrifice U.S. jobs

ARE PEOPLE IN OHIO THAT DENSE

New York expat in Santo Domingo   March 4th, 2008 9:32 pm ET

Hillary's been playing the 'fear' card, which is double-edged in the closet-racist evangelical xenophobic high-school dropout parts of America. Yes, she's smart. The NDN and DLC of Bill's favorite advisor Morris have figured out that it is better to divide and conquer like Republicans, even if you only win by a vote and diseffect the majority. They want to win at any cost. So, play the fear card and play the subliminal race card and rip the Democratic Party apart. You might steal the convention, but you'll lose the fight for the Presidency and the wasteland the GOP creates will be on your shoulders.

Bev H.   March 4th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

OR - it's actually TRUE that we Texans aren't aligator-wrestling, tobacco spittin' bigots like the rest of the country would like to believe. We are over most of our racial issues…..but is the blessed northeast? I think the answer is a good hard "no". My husband and I recently lived in the Philadelphia area for 3 years, and I've NEVER seen such blatant racism (on both sides) as I did during our tenure in the northeast. On the other hand, because of the "southern way" - we do have a strong ideal for how a lady should behave and present herself in public. Mrs. Clinton does not measure up (primarily based upon what proceeds from her mouth) - hence, the better candidate of the two should be Obama. I guess we'll see tonight if most of my fellow Texans agree……..

DIANA SCHMITT   March 4th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

I THINK THAT HILLARY HAD SOMEONE AT THE CANADIAN CONSULT CALL UP THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN AND ASK THESE STUPID QUESTIONS. SHE IS DIRTY IN FIGHTING THIS CAMPAIGN .HOW DID SHE KNOW ABOUT ALL THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING OURSELVES. WE ARE BEING TRICKED BY THE CLINTONS AND I THINK SENATOR OBAMA SHOULD INVESTIGATE HOW A LOW STAFFER WAS CONTACTED BEHIND HIS BACK AND ASKED THESE REDICULOUS QUESTIONS. SENATOR OBAMA WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS MEETING OR WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO BE ASKED. AMERICANS DO NOT BE FOULED BY THE LIES OF THE DEVIOUS CLINTONS.

Jeff   March 4th, 2008 9:33 pm ET

MSNBC: Ohio Exit Poll: 20% of Voters Said Race was Factor in Vote: 80% of them Voted for Clinton

CNN, SHOW MY COMMENT!!!

David   March 4th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Kerry and Kennedy don't HAVE to vote for Clinton, and I suspect they won't. Just as very avid supporters of Hillary that are superdelegates will vote for her. But some who don't necessarily give speeches for their candidate and the such, may be inclined to vote with their state. They have a political career to think about.

Patrick from diego   March 4th, 2008 9:34 pm ET

Have we already forgot about hiliary's record on NAFTA.

Annette   March 4th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

I'm originally from western PA. I think people in Ohio and PA may be more prejudice than some other parts of the country.

WhiteWoman for Obama   March 4th, 2008 9:35 pm ET

This Ohio thing is all about race. I voted for Obama today but I know many white people who didn't like Hillary but didn't vote for Obama because of race………This is a sad day for America…Surprising NO, SAD YES!

frank   March 4th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

but I guess white working people really did like Clinton better! Does this mean that Ohio is not educated enough to vote for Obama?

DEMOCRAT!   March 4th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO! AND I'M FOR OBAMA.

Jay   March 4th, 2008 9:38 pm ET

Obama isn't doing so well tonight because of HIM, not because of Hillary, the media, or McCain. It's reasonable that the media, and his opponents, are beginning to take a closer look at him; after all, he is "interviewing" for the most important job in America. It's not the media's or Hillary's fault Obama got involved with Rezko, and it's not their fault that his guy spoke to Canadian officials. Perhaps Obama supporters don't care about any of these issues; however, the rest of America has a right know. I have some news that might surprise everyone: Obama is a typical politician - no different than Hillary or McCain (they each say whatever they have to say to get elected)! The audacity of truth!

Fred   March 4th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

Can you beleave the Clintons brought you NAFTA and you still vote for them in Ohio. People must not be very bright in Ohio. That would explain it. Or ignerant.

jer   March 4th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

The Ohio voters got hood winked by the Clintons again. Why do they let them do it over and over.
They signed NAFTA even over the objections of the Unions. Now they come out and support them because Obama's rep talked to the Canadians.
Action on this issue was done by the Clintons.

Austin   March 4th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

NO.. 1 in 5 whites in Ohio said race matters when they voted, and 80% of those voted for Clinton (according to exit polls as reported by Nora O'Donnell). Schneider can muse about the economy but I think that says more. In Texas you have a multi-cultural/multi-ethnic/multi-racial community, which isn't immune to racism by any means, but is definitely use to voting for, being represented, etc. etc. etc. by minority candidates and comfortable (for the most part) with voting for black candidates if they think they are qualified (Ron Kirk, Michael Williams, etc.)

deb   March 4th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

It amazes me that after losing 12 primaries in a row Clinton would continue in this race! The Clinton fighting machine would rather bloody Obama than concede defeatI. Does the fact that a record number of people are engaged in this election cycle cause any pause or reflection with the Clintons? The price for the democrats is not only economic but the Supreme Court composition will affect at least a generation of Americans. The intent of the Clinton campaign to stay in till June gives McCain 2 months to hone his attack (he can use Clinton's ads) .

Patrick   March 4th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

39 yr old white male here… I am one of those Ohio voters and I voted for Barack Obama. I don't hate Hillary but Obama is offering the message I have put forth in blogs over the past five years.

It is time for change…. and a break from the past.

Chris in Va.   March 4th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

Fred,Beleave? Ignerant? Sad thing is most of these posts are no better. When did the American people become illiterate?

lofi   March 4th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

just attended an austin caucus; HEAVY HEAVY turnout. very inspiring!

John, VA   March 4th, 2008 9:47 pm ET

I would like to think that race have alot to do in this race, but the fact don't support that. For instance, Iowa, Maine, Kansas, Alaska…

Brian McFarlane   March 4th, 2008 9:48 pm ET

The Ohio vote does not surprise me. I am from Richmond, Virginia the capital of the confederacy. I thought I had seen racism, that is until I met a friend from and visited Ohio. People up there make things here seem tame. At least in the south, character counts from something, regardless of race.

Bill, NY   March 4th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Racism rampant in Ohio. What's new.

Joe   March 4th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

I am a white male from Ohio. Voted for Obama.

Bill, NY   March 4th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Ohio– least educated state in the North. Look who they're voting for.

Carly   March 4th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

Diana is right. The Clintons are playing us for stupid and tricking us. She is providing the republicans with all the ammunition they need if Obama wins the nomination. She may be "experienced", but she is just another dirty politician. Unfortunately, if she wins, I will have to vote for her, because she will need all the help she can get. Her supporters should be saying the same about Obama. If people are so against Bush, then how can you vote for McCain? How can you trust him when he backs a lot of Bush policies. It's a shame that people won't vote for Obama based on race.

GC Starkeson   March 4th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

I know CNN has been and is favoring Obama, but the censorship here is crossing the line from reporting to fascist opinion creation.

Tamara   March 4th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

Yeah, we live in NC now, but I was raised primarily in AZ. Lived in Michigan for a decade and the blue-collar working racism agaist blacks is disgusting! So, Brian and Bill, your points are valid. Joe, I vote for you!

First American   March 4th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

To Fred, you need to learn how to spell.

I think Ohio has a voice and they have been heard.

I think back to the people who voted for Bush, how smart do they feel now?

Give Hillary a chance to prove herself and then and only then can you throw stones.

At least we can pronounce her name and President Clinton sounds more American, than Prez Obama.

N in FL   March 4th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

Hillary's fear campaign went over well with the un-educated and under educated white population in Ohio. Her fear mongering was subtly mixed with race to a very receptive audience in southern Ohio. She intends to do likewise in Pennsylvania. Hillary will stop at nothing to get the nomination. She believes the nomination is her right of entitlement and absolutely no one will deny her of her right; even if she has to DESTROY the democratic party in the process. SAD SAD SAD…..

Barry from Cincinnati   March 4th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

The reason you are seeing the white difference in Ohio is loads of Republicans voted for Hillary because they are scared of Obama. That Wack job Bill Cunningham was on the radio calling for it for 3 hours and the hillbillys that listen to him obliged in the droves.

Reality check #1   March 4th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

It is not about race in Ohio, it's about Obama and his deal with the Canadians coming out. Ohio is a very industrial state, they've worked hard and for Obama to make them feel dupped is not good. You may be able to fool college kids but you can't fool those who have worked hard all their life. College kids have not been in the real world yet, they don't have to worry about insurance and home foreclosures. Ohioan's have alot at stake. Hillary can pull us out of a recession, Obama can't even get his own home deal right. Too many "bone headed " deals with too many people from Obama.

Cindy   March 4th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

oh man… leave the Ohio people alone…

you win some, you lose some… move on. stay positive.

Santayana2008   March 4th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

According to "Bill, NY" - when a state appears to go for Hillary, they are racist. That kind of comment is racism at its worst. Why is not deemed "racist" when blacks vote overwhelmingly for Obama? Do they ALL think he's more qualified because of his record? NO!! They vote for him because he is (half) African-American! And that's fine…just admit it for once.

Josh   March 4th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Why does CNN always have to make everything out to be based on RACE???? Why does America have to base everything on race??? I am a White Latino and happen to be voting for Hillary Clinton, however, I'm not gonna reject Obama because he's black. Quite frankly, I'd LOVE to have a black president, just NOT HIM!!! I can truly say race, gender or religion do not matter to me when voting…only the issues and EXPERIENCE!!!

HILLS '08!!!

White Ohio Stater   March 4th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

I am a white young female, and I voted for Obama. Not only that, I did everything I could to show my support in public for him. I am well educated and voted because I believe in what he stands for. It is ridiculous the amount of women who think I am wrong for not voting for a woman… give me a break. Which makes women look stupider, really?

Josh   March 4th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Hey I'm a white guy in Ohio who voted for Obama so this is not the case for everyone.

Then again I'm also young (a demographic Obama appeals to) and about to receieve a Bachelor's degree from OSU. So I'm not uneducated. So I guess I don't completely flaunt the trends.

scott   March 4th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

why is it Negative Campaining if Hill points out a fact about BO but its not negative campaining when he slings the first shot when slaps down the wallmart point
if you look back she played far also its been BO and the new to pollitics that have been breaking the party. much like they do to many of the cities in the US well just tare down the old and build new. next thing theres no money and they wonder why is that the goverment has to have cash somewhere, we need a new library. hate to say it but you cant always get what want and its about time this generation learns that.

Joel   March 4th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

No, what's sad is that (Black or White) people would vote for a Clinton as a "change" vote. I for one am done with the Bushes and the Clintons. A vote for either is lazy, not change. If Hilary pulls off a miracle by stealing this election (winning neither the most states, nor the popular vote) I remind my fellow Dems that we continue to excel at losing. McCain will, rightly so, clean her clock.

NickNasc   March 4th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

When questioned why she was voteing for Hillary a woman from Ohio said. " The economy was really good when Bill Clinton was in office and with him back in there to give guidance we can get back there again."

ENOUGH said!! Finally an Honest Hillary backer who is straight about whos " Experience" she is really voteing for.

NO CLINTON 3rd term or Co- Presidency

LISTENER   March 4th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

OHIO IS TYPICAL FOR BEING NARROW MINDED NOR DO THEY WANT CHANGE.CUNNINGHAM PUT IT OUT THERE,PEEL THE BARK OFF OF A MAN OF GREAT STATURE AND CAN RUN A CAMPAIGN,THATS A JOKE THATS THE WAY THESE ARE SOME STILL ARE IN OHIO,IT`S A MONTROSITY THAT THEY DON`T WANT XHANGE. :) GOD BLESS HEAVEN HELP US.PEACE LOVE AND SOUL

SB   March 4th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I remember Nafta….I guess the Ohioians have forgotten…maybe they want Clinton to bring them another form of Nafta, lol

McCain all the way because she can not win but she will continue to FIGHT…..

Kathleen   March 4th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

When this endless campaign began I was undecided between Hillary and Obama. both very intelligent , articulate candidates. A welcome change from the war-criminal inarticulate BUSH.
After months of biased news reporting demeaning Hillary Clinton I became very suspicious of the Obama mania -the news media has chosen the democratic candidate-WHY????

June M   March 4th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

I can't believe Hillary drinking beer in between flights while campaining. Is she now going to answer the phone at 3 in the morning to handle a crises. When she can't even wait and drink when she is in a private place out of the publics eye. Look at the things the Clintons have done. Cleaning out the Governors Manor when they left. Doing the same with the White House when they had to leave.
They are using our money to pay for their home. I think the money for her campain is coming from a Russian, whom Clinton is in partnership in a mine in Russia. If this the type of person you want for president ,god help us.

Anonymous   March 4th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

I AM FROM CALIFORNIA, A BLACK WOMAN, AND I LIVED IN CLEVELAND FOR 4 YEARS. IT IS A HIGHLY SEGREGATED TOWN. THE STATE ITSELF SEEMS TO BE DIVIDED BY RACIAL LINES. I WILL SAY THIS, THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY HAS CHANGED MY MIND ON AMERICA. RACISIM STILL EXIST BUT AS A BLACK WOMAN I CAN SAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE THAT MANY MANY WHITES HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ON HOW THEY PERCEIVE BLACKS. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I AM TRULY TRULY PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN! I HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO LIVE IN AMERICA BECAUSE IT IS A PROSPEROUS COUNTY BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME I AM PROUD!!!!!!!

Rico   March 4th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

It appears to me she, according to the CNN exit polls, is winning the "white vote 55-44. That is according to the CNN exit poll so I do not understand the 1 percentage point that you are referring to?

mike   March 4th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

as a former Ohio resident, they (Ohioians) went for Hillary cause they are more ignorant and more rascist than the average.

Anonymous   March 4th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

Thanks John from VA, only the media seems to be paying the race card, shame, shame, shame!

LNAB   March 4th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

persistent, hidden and social accepted misogamy has far more to do with these primaries.

Take a look at the numbers. One must ask why any racial people would go 85-90 % for a candidate and why "white males" go overwhelmingly to Obama

race may be a factor but certainly not in a negative way for Obama while Clinton is having to deal with the still pervausive sexism of the American white male

boston2clevelandgal   March 4th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

How many of you declaiming that Hillary is leading in Ohio because of racism, actually live here? There are both African-Americans who are voting for Hillary - like congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones - and white (affluent) people voting for Barack Obama. It's the economy, the economy and, oh, yeah - THE LOUSY ECONOMY! Predatory lending has been horrible here, Cleveland exceeded only by Detroit in foreclosure rates, poor educational systems in the major cities,lots of job loss in every area but health care services, and organizations that are offering low or no cost health care are overrun with working poor not covered by employers but who are squeezed out of Medicaid. We need something more tangible here in Ohio than lofty rhetoric and a few hundred bucks tax refund that will be spent paying bills before it arrives.

Jean   March 4th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

I trust Hillary completely because of her experience, intelligence, and as a hard fighter who who stand with all people to the end.
I do not trust Obama because he has not be critiqued like Hillary, and whines each time a fact is brought to his attention that he does not like. Too much of his specific ideas are not tested by the hard knocks and experience.
If he is the nominee, the Republicans will tear him to shreds!
It will be a sad day for America if Obama is our
Democratic nominee.

Jean
Dyersburg, TN

Centrist Independent   March 4th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Its interesting…I believe that there are plenty of white and black bigots left in this country…but that's not what interests me.

What concerns me is that both Obama and Clinton are so far to the LEFT, espousing some of the most expensive social programs to ever be created…at a time when we are at war and we find our economy greatly weakened.

Won't this make it easier for a "Maverick" Republican to challenge for the White House? We need to re-establish our priorities. Cut first before you add programs we can't afford. Ask Americans. Do we believe the War on Terror is over? I don't believe it can be. Do we want a President willing to sit down with Achminijead…a President of a Terrorist state who has no desire for peace? Or with Syria?…how about Hugo Chavez These people and groups they harbor want to destroy us…we need a serious president willing to defend us…and build consensus in the world to confront these issues. I find Mc Cain dull and lackluster, but at least he's got his priorities straight.

The Dems will be united in the November Election…but the independents…I don't believe Obamma or Clinton can carry.

Angela CO   March 4th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

I am independent and have only ever voted for third parties and a few democrats. I am voting for McCain in November because of his stance on illigal immigration and because he is the only one that has the military background to deal with (and get us out of) Iraq.

Steve   March 4th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

I am a black male in Ohio who voted for Hillary. To be honest, I forgot that it was her husband who put me out of work. DUH……I will definitely vote for Obama for President if I am lucky enough to be given that opportunity.

deb in OH   March 4th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

OH is very conservative and quite a few Republicans were voting for Hillary here too…that's a real problem the way they are hijacking the democratic primary to ensure they get her as an opponent in the Fall

simone   March 4th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

i voted for obama i am white female,,,i like hillary …she is yesterday he is the future,,change we need, it time,ohio is a very backward.!!!!!!…lots of racism!!!!!.

ForObama_2008   March 4th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Clintons supported NAFTA and still blue collar whites voted for them?What is the logic behind this?

Mook   March 4th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Even If I am AA, I would not have voted for Sen. Obama. Clearly, Sen. Obama does not have any experience hence it would be a terrible mistake to have him as the president of the United States of America.

DemGuy, Illinois   March 4th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Its about RACE…. Ohio is probably the most racist state in the Union… I was over there this weekend volunteering… You'd be amazed at the what most of the voters said about race

What?   March 4th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Absolutely ridiculous. Economy had little to do with and everyone here knows it!!!

Clooney   March 4th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Overall, NAFTA and free-trade in general is good. Protectionist approach to economics will only hurt you in the long run.

I'm pretty sure the Obama campaign is looking into whether Hillary camps PLANTED and SETUP one of his economic advisor during that university tour. It's well knowledge that Bill Clinton supports NAFTA - he's buddy with both George Bushs.

Jordan, Raleigh NC   March 4th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

I thought the story about the Obama campaign's contact with Canada about NAFTA had been revealed as a fabrication. This was not noted in the introductory story.

E.Richards   March 4th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Both Clinton and Obama are strong fighters. Why shouln't Clinton get a win or two? All's fair in love and war.

Mike in NYC   March 4th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Racism, racism, racism — you Obamaniacs are so predictable.

Yes, those Ohioans are sooooo uneducated … why else wouldn't they vote for Obama?

It is about race, and in a way that you refuse to face.

The closer whites live to large black populations, the more likely they are to vote against Obama. Why do you think Clinton took NY, NJ, MA, and now OH? Whites in those states are directly affected by the social pathologies that one finds in large black populations.

This is the 9000 pound elephant in the room that most people refuse to confront.

Boma   March 4th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

OH Stop crying "RACE" the moment OBAMA loses!

lamont anderson pa   March 4th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

no matter how many states hillary win she can not win the pledge delegated over obama so what is she doing ?. takeing it to the convention floor were she will tear the democrat party apart.for her own gain. and forget the popular vote she want's the supper delegates to pick her.

Ron   March 4th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

I'm very disturbed about the rantings and ravings of people about ohio citizens. I'm from Ohio, voted for Hillary, and am college educated, own a business, and see her as the best possible choice for Ohio. I am not an illiterate rascist as these posts suggest.

ap   March 4th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

it's nice to know we have come above racism in some respects, If Obama is the man for the job, he will have to take the heat, i don't want to be dupped however.

We will find out who he is, if he's not the one he' s portraying himself to be , soon enough. However, I judge no man, no -one is perfect. If he can take the criticism and reproof..more power to him.

I think the issue is about EVERY person having at least OPPORTUNITY to run. Hillary on the other hand, has shown her true colors, what you see is what you get. THE CLINTONS ARE STRAIGHT UP WITH THEIR SHADINESS(crooked). Therefore, regardless I am one WOMAN who will not be voting for her. So now that its a fair fight, let the real race begin.

Black Woman who voted for Huckabee.

Great American   March 4th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

Ohio, are your Hillary vote totals for Real?

I cannot believe that you are actually voting for a NAFTA politician after having most of your manufacturing exported to Mexico, Canada and the Hinterlands (across the oceans). Please don't tell me that Hillary's disclosure of a discussion from an Obama representative to some Canadians swayed you.

REMEMBER THIS:
Obama is a young pup and will obey the electorate, Hillary is an old dog that knows the ropes and will obey the lobbyists on the hill.

Ohio is such a great state with wonderful citizens (Great Americans) who helped shape our nation and who now are on the outside of the prosperity wagon because of politicians like Hillary who think that Ohio manufacturers are not efficient enough, or capable enough, to compete in the global market.

Ohio, I wish you well and I will do my best as a Great American to bring HIGH-TECH MANUFACTURING jobs back to Ohio before its too late.

Why didn't you vote for Kucinich? (he is a Great American for Sure!)

amie   March 4th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

Why is it when someones candidate is losing they bring something negative into it like race. God doesn't look on the outside of a person so why should we? when did we think looks or what comes out of a persons mouth describes them? With polititions it is easier to distort the truth than tell the truth. why haven't people asked Obama what he is going to change and how will he do it? can he change 200 years of politics in the first 100 days. Look what George Bush promised and you believed him too but look at what you got. This will be my last presidential election, I am that old,and I would like to see what a woman can do that man has not been able to do in 200 years.

BARBARA   March 4th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

IT SEEMS VERY INTERESTING TO ME THAT THE MOST PREDOMINATE AFRICAIN AMERICAN COUNTIES CAN HAVE EXTENDED HOURS TO VOTE SO EVERY VOTE CAN BE CAST AND
COUNTED YET WE WON'T COUNT ALL THE VOTES FROM FLORIDA
OR MICHIGAN WHERE HILLARY WON . GIVE ME A BREAK !!! THIS IS
ALL ABOUT THE BOY'S CLUB KENNEDY, KERRY, DEAN AFRAID
OF HAVING A STRONG EDUCATED EXPERIANCED WOMEN TRYING
TO BE A MEMBER OF THEIR BOY'S CLUB !!!!! SO INSTEAD THEY PICK A MINORITY WITH NO EXPERIANCE NO RECORD JUST ALOT OF HOT AIR TO BE THEIR PUPPET AMERICIANS WAKE AND LOOK
AT THE ISSUES AND THEIR RECORDS

Lisa   March 4th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

I find it disgusting that people are so willing to call Ohio racist and stereotype like that. Race is an issue everywhere to some degree, as is gender, and if anything gender is a bigger issue here in Ohio than race is. But the economy trumps either of those- how many of you have been to Ohio lately? Haw many of you have seen the swaths of vacant industrial buildings? And the foreclosure problems we have in this state- heard of Slavic village much? We need help in this state, and Clinton can deliver- Obama can't/won't. He's said as much to Canadian officials. Get a clue and don't be so quick to judge. Not to mention all the comments about the ignorance in Ohio. We have one of the largest numbers of colleges of any state, and a higher than average number of college grads (but I'm a doctoral student so you'll probably call me biased no matter what).

northphily05   March 4th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

I agree with DIANA SCHMITT, I believe that the Canadian tour was a set up. The tour was not solicited by any-person in the Obama campain. There wasn't any on the record meeting arranged for the tour; why would there be any minutes resulting from the tour. The whole thing has a funny smell to it. If Hillary wins Ohio, it would be because she played on the fears of the people of Ohio. She released a pitcure of Obama in Somalian garb, then followed it with a fear-mongering ad; she then created an atmospher that would put into question Obamas position against NAFTA; qite clever Hillary. You have way more baggage than Oabama, and I hope the republicans expose you.

Webbie   March 4th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

Sadly in Ohio white voters will not vote for an African American. Maybe it's because Clinton County Ohio is the headquarters for the Aryan-Nation and Highland County has one of the largest KKK memberships in the country. That is why Clinton gets a larger white vote in Ohio. Also the fact that the majority of people in Ohio over the age of 65 are transplants from the south and most are extremely prejudice as people have seen many times on CNN stories from Cincinnati. Dayton is just as bad.

Christie   March 4th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

Ohio are racist since they didn't t vote for Obama, I really think we need another civil right movement because I don't think you guys get the meaning.

By the way, Hillary won most of the big state, why not Ohio. Obama is another Kerry, you guys are making a big mistake if you think Obama gonna win.

Deez nuts, TX   March 4th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

PWTrash in Ohio are afraid of losing ground with other Americans from other ethnic groups. They are afraid of change. They are afraid of Obama. Economy was their concern? REALLY? How about racism CNN? I cant wait to see what happens when their wages are garnished for nonpayment of medical premiums in Hillary's mandated America Health Choices Plan.

R.S.   March 4th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

I am very disturbed by the media, especially CNN and NBC/MSNBC trying to portray Hillary voters as uneducated, old, and poor.
I also think many Obama supporters are so silly to suggest they are the smartest and most educated. In reality, most comments by Obama supporters are extremely rude and sexist.

There are many voters who are smart (not just because of their education level) to understand what is at stake and vote for Hillary.

And please, Obama supporters, stop telling us you are proud to be American first time in your life.

Hillary 08!

Sallie   March 4th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

I don't understand why the "red phone" ad is considered negative. Wasn't she just comparing her credentials to his? Is that not what campaigning is?

Why is that because whites in Ohio didn't vote for Obama that they are considered racist? Are the black people who haave voted mostly for Obama, racists? What's your point?

It's not hard to undertand why Obama lost tonight. People have finally started to ask him what he's about, rather than is he comfortable. He has finally had to say something besides "Yes we can". I want to know what it is he can do?

DIANA SCHMITT   March 4th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

WHY CAN'T I GET THE STATE MAPS THAT JOHN KING SHOWS FOR THE COUNTIES VOTING COMING IN ON MY COMPUTER?

I luv Ohio   March 4th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

I'm a biracial man living in a small town in Ohio and have to say that New York City is probably one of THE most segregated places I've ever lived. Ohio is just indicative of many states in the US. Sadly, this will be revealed in the general election when you will have people jumping parties to NOT vote for a black president. We have come a long way, but still have such a long way to go . . .
Those who are characterizing Ohio as ignorant and racist need to look at their own back yards. (That means you too Bill NY) Visiting someplace for a weekend or making judgments on brief encounters just perpetuates stereotypes and furthers our divides in this country.

Janey,Naples, Florida   March 4th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

It's interesting how the news media has all but tarred and feathered Hillary over the NAFTA decision. Obama picked right up on it and has used it extensively in his smear campaigns against her. Have you people forgotten that it was not she that voted for NAFTA? It was her husband and, believe it or not, some women (yes, even WIVES) actually have thoughts of their own. Scary, isn't it.

Deez nuts, TX   March 4th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

BULLETIN: PWT of OHIO your jobs are never coming back. They are overseas!! Get an education or come on down to Texas and compete for your jobs on the Transamerica highway project and border patrol. We have plenty of room for you.

P.S Leave your racism in OHIO

Mel   March 4th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

Mike in NYC March 4th, 2008 10:10 pm ET

Said:

"It is about race, and in a way that you refuse to face.

"The closer whites live to large black populations, the more likely they are to vote against Obama. Why do you think Clinton took NY, NJ, MA, and now OH? Whites in those states are directly affected by the social pathologies that one finds in large black populations.

This is the 9000 pound elephant in the room that most people refuse to confront."
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I agree with your comment. It is sad , but true, that northern whites in these type of communities are competing with blacks for those same type of jobs, Pennsylvania is the same type of demographic as Ohio; Hillary supporters should fair well there too.

Blacks seem to prosper more when they move to the south that being said, high populations of blacks in Carolina, Georgia, and Maryland (to name a few) are well educated and well to off. I personally know many blacks in the south that live on country clubs. What a difference is a proper education makes, eh?

Sarah   March 4th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

I voted for Hillary and i'm not ashamed! t's time women take a stand!Women rule and can if we get behind Hillary!

Ron   March 4th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Hi,
This is Ron from Ohio posting again. I am glad to see there are also other people standing up for Ohioans. I lived in Texas also when I was in the military years ago, in San Antonio, which I also see is voting for Hillary. I'm have fond memories of Texas, and even though people from Ohio are supposedly rascist, I got along very well with other people where I was the minority. They were no different than I was. We need to stop talking about race, and get to the real issues of the economy and the place of the United States in the World, and stop placing blame.

Virginia Kelty   March 4th, 2008 10:41 pm ET

CNN and other outlets are puzzling over exit poll results in Texas seemingly indicating that African American voters are turning out in numbers fewer than those seen in previous elections. Did these exit polls include or account for Black voters who chose the "early voting" option? Perhaps many Black voters did just that and thus weren't included in exit poll data, so that conclusions on African American voter turnout based on data data are spurious.

Ravi in Missouri   March 4th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Stereotypes are just dumb. People think Texans are a bunch of racist rednecks, but the truth is, most people in Texas are good people who judge others by who they are on the inside. Most white folks in Texas will treat you with respect provided that you do the same for them.

Ohio and Pennsylvania, on the other hand, are filled with angry bigots who ooze hatred and malice from their pores. Ohioans and Pennsylvanians have a deep hatred of ethnic minorities (even though most of these two states' residents have never met a minority in their lives).

DIANA   March 4th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

I STATED THAT I THOUGHT THE TOUR WAS A SET UP BY HILLARY, MAYBE I DID NOT MAKE IT CLEAR. THE CLINTONS SET UP THE STUPID QUESTIONS THAT WERE LEAKED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SENATOR OBAMA HAD A DIFFERENT FEW ON TRADE. BUT HE WAS NOT THERE A LOW STAFFER ATTENDED THE TOUR AND WAS NOT SPEAKING FOR THE SENATOR. I THINK HILLARY SET THAT UP AND THAT SENATOR OBAMA SHOULD HAVE HER INVESTIGATED AND EXPOSED FOR THE DIRTY TRICKS SHE IS PLAYING ON US. HILLARY IS BAD FOR OUR PARTY.

Debbi   March 4th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

Never mind the white people's voting. Look at the black votes, 89% for a black candidate, and no one is mentioning the word racism?

daniel1970   March 4th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

This is the important result of today:
Hillary won Ohio and she won Florida, two swing states that will be crucial in November!
Hillarly won New York and California, the biggest prizes in November!

Hillary is the Candidate that can beat McCain in November and bring the change to this country that so many Democrats long for!

Go, Hillary, go!

Maggieb   March 4th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

Boy this election must really be Fixed. The news reported winners a Minute after polls closed. Not even waiting for numbers? Makes one wonder is they have an Inside track.

GUESS THE FIX WAS IN

Debbi   March 4th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

Black man voting for Hillaryyou are a wise man indeed and quite right that MLK and civil rights would want to you vote for the best and not by race. I hope Hillary wins, becasue she Is the most qualified to lead the country. Mr Obama needs to learn the ropes as VP and then can pick up the Presidency by which time he will be fully capable to be president unless we find out that there are personal issues.

CHARLES   March 4th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

OHIO VOTERS RELAXED, NO MAINSTREAM MEDIA WILL OUTRIGHT
ACCUSE YOU OF RACISM, YOU ALL KNOW YOUR STATE AND ITS
HISTORY.AS A CHILD I REMEMBER SEEING WHITES IN TREES
THROWING BRICKS AT MARTIN LUTHER KING ON TV, THAT HAPPENED IN OHIO. NOTHING THAT HAPPENS IN OHIO AS RELATED TO A BLACK MAN WOULD SURPRISE ME.THOUGH IT IS NOT NECCESSARY FOR THIS WRITER TO LABEL ANYONE TO UNDERSTAND OHIO MAY JUST NEED MORE TIME FOR CHANGE,
MAYBE ANOTHER 40 YEARS !

RONALD COLEMAN   March 4th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

NOW I SEE HOW OHIO LOST ALL THE JOBS THEY ONCE HAD. NO COMMON SENSE. WAIT TIL ANOTHER 4 YEARS AND MAYBE YALL WILL WAKEUP!

luvusa   March 4th, 2008 11:06 pm ET

Way to go, Ohio!! You have restored my faith in American voters!!!

luvusa   March 4th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

Anything that doesn't go Obama's way is called racist! It's past time for that to end. Go Ohio!!

Mike in NYC   March 4th, 2008 11:15 pm ET

Mel, you got part, but not all, of what I was saying.

It's not about competition for jobs and the difference an "education" can make.

It's about crime, illegitimacy, substance abuse, kids that can't/won't try in school and pull the school system down with them.

These occur at much higher rates in black populations than white ones, and the white populations foot most of the bill.

(If the moderator lets this post through, I'll have to give them a great deal of credit. These are not easy things to face.)

joanna   March 4th, 2008 11:20 pm ET

O'bama???? a roll of the dice, Michelle ? a " proud" racist comment.!

If Hillary has won in Ohio….it proves Ohioans a very, very smart people and that O'bama supporters are not as well educated as they like to portray themselves.

SECOND AMERICAN   March 4th, 2008 11:28 pm ET

To the " first american " - I agree with you for everything you said except one: President Clinton does not sound any better than Prez Obama to me and to lot of other peaple !!! and this is what the " CHANGE " is about !!!. Be in better touch with the REALITY !!!

Tim   March 4th, 2008 11:44 pm ET

There has to ba problem in reporting votes in Texas. The raw votes and the percentages of vote in do not add up. Houston has nearly 200,000 votes in but records only one seventh voting. Houston can't have 1.4 million Democratic votes. It had less than 500,000 ifor Kerry in 2004. What is the problem and why don't your analysts notice it?

Joe   March 4th, 2008 11:48 pm ET

Only in the mind of a career politician like Hillary Clinton could losing a nearly 20-pt lead to win a close election be viewed as a victory.

Mari   March 4th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Two of the best candidates, ever, two brilliant minds and two great patriots!!!!!!!

Let's agree to put our differences aside and support the Democratic ticket in November 2008. Racism does not have a place in the Democratic Party.

Please, let's stop the ugliness.

Don't play into the hands of those that want to see infighting and division in the Democratic Party.

VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET IN NOV 2008!!!!!!!!!

Hillary For Ohio NOT Obama!   March 4th, 2008 11:55 pm ET

Ohio Voters got Hillary! not Obama!!!!!

Hillary 08

Jed in Texas   March 5th, 2008 12:10 am ET

Obama chewed his foot off like a muckrat in a trap with the NAFTA lie.

CP   March 5th, 2008 12:44 am ET

Wow. So, apparently my comment was deemed "not appropriate" by the powers that be. No censorship on CNN, eh?

TerryD   March 5th, 2008 2:13 am ET

You analysis how white people voted in your article. I would suggest

a better analysis' would be how black people are overwhelming voting

for Barack H.Obama…

Clinton is not even getting 30 percent of that voting block. I would

suggest the Africian-Americans know more about Hillary Clinton then

they do about Obama.

So why have they withdrawn support for her?

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