WASHINGTON (CNN) - Congressional Democrats settled in Wednesday for an extended fight to the presidential nomination after Tuesday's primaries failed to produce a clear frontrunner, while at least one Democratic leader urged party officials to let the electoral process take its course.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said now is not the time for party officials to wade into the fight over the Democratic presidential nomination.
"I think the electoral process has to work its way," she told reporters. "There are still many voters unheard from yet, and I think that our candidates both have the capacity to inspire, to bring out a big vote that will hold us in good stead in November, and I think that now is not the time for anybody to weigh in."
Many party officials are superdelegates, but Pelosi aides said that the speaker was cautioning party officials against pushing for a quick end to the nomination process rather than warning any who are superdelegates not to commit to a candidate.
Pelosi said she is confident the nominee will be decided before the Democratic convention in August.
She said she was "never among those who believed this would be resolved by now," and argued that the prolonged campaign is good for the party, offering Democrats a chance to "make a clear distinction" about their differences with Republicans on a range of issues.
She pointed to Iraq, noting the Democratic candidates are talking about "responsible redeployment versus a 100-year-war that Senator McCain has spoken about."
She was referring to McCain's comment that even after fighting ends, U.S. troops might remain in Iraq for up to 100 years, just as U.S. troops have remained in South Korea for more than half a century after the fighting there stopped.
House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., also hammered McCain on Iraq, saying, "Under President Bush and with John McCain's support, America's economy has been hijacked by Iraq and our investment there."
Democratic senators joined Pelosi in appearing confident the party will unite behind the eventual nominee and being largely unconcerned about the prospects of a lengthy battle.
"I don't think it's a bad thing," said Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., a former candidate who said the race is "far from over."
"At the end of the day we will unite to prevent another Republican from making it in the White House," he said.
Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., agreed. "Most of us think that (Sen. John) McCain is nothing but a third term for (President) Bush," he said. "That in of itself should unite the party."
Other Senate Democrats said that so long as Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama don't turn too negative against each other, the extended campaign could help whoever wins the nomination.
"We know the (Republican) attack machine is going to go after them in the general election. So to have the strongest candidate battle-tested is a good thing," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a Clinton supporter. "Obviously we don't want the fighting to get too sharp-edged, but so far so good."
Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., an Obama supporter, said a lot of people are "wringing their hands" like Hamlet. But he called that "premature."
"Competition is good," he said. "All the media attention, until whatever date this is over, will be about Obama-Clinton and Sen. McCain is standing on the side saying, 'what about me?'"
But one Democratic senator, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, said she is already concerned the campaign has become too nasty.
"I just think we're going to have to be very careful that these two candidates don't tear each other apart because both are worthy, worthy people and would make excellent presidents," she said. "I was concerned about what we saw in the last week."
Sen. John Tester, D-Mont., said a lengthy fight for the nomination has the potential to divide the party, but he said he is confident Obama and Clinton will be "as professional as possible."
Tester said he has yet to endorse a candidate. He said he will base his decision in part on the popular vote from the June Montana primary, but will also weigh who he thinks has the best chance to beat McCain in the general election.
Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., argued Clinton is the best for the general election because she has done so well with Latino voters and has won key big states.
"I don't know how it is possible to win the general election if you cannot win in the Southwest, if you can't win Ohio, places like Florida," he said. "These are the key places to win the electoral vote."
(updated 6 p.m. ET with additional reporting)
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Don't suppress the voters from MI and FL.
Count all votes.
Either revote both or count FL and revote MI.
Sounds like the party want's this to end, and want's the superdelegates to decide it, one way or the other....
Look for a round of crazy endorsments the next few days... Probably including Edwards and Richardson. Though why has Pelosi not opened her mouth yet.
Yes. It is time for Obama to bow out. Thank you. Stop your cult slogan "Yes, we can!".
"Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!".... But HOW can you?
I'm glad the Rep. Pelosi has finally spoken on the issue. She has basically called the superdelegates to the carpet – "go with your constituency or it will damage the party."
Hillary,
You are the best candidate we have, and having Mr. Obama as your VP will train him to be President of America in the years to come.
Hillary 08,
Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island you showed America that you stand with her and believe in our party!
HILLARY -PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
So I guess that means the superdelegates are off the table as well...
I believe so too. Unless Clinton wins by landslides the superdelegates will flock to Obama aide. I think we all know whats at stake here. TODAY ONLY, OBAMA HAS ALREADY GAINED 3 SUPERDELEGATES
Right on...........everyone should be able to vote BEFORE super-delegates announce their choices. I wonder how Senator Kennedy feels that his state did not support his choice?
I think that this should go to convention. Obama supporters keep saying that the math is not adding for her to be the candidate, so she should get out. They seem to forget that he won't get enough delegates either!!!!! So, it seems that they are afraid to let her make it to the convention, because they know she can beat him in the end.
GO HILLARY!!!!!
I certainly hope it is not Hillary. Voters needs to know that real change is not a Clinton in a pantsuit.
YES AND IT WILL BE HILLARY!
SHE IS AMERICA'S HOPE! WE LOVE YOU HILLARY
VOTE HILLARY
VOTE HILLARY
VOTE HILLARY
Mathematically, Hilary CAN'T win! And if the super delegates step in and steal the nomination from Obama, I guarantee you...
THERE WILL BE A BLACK OUT OF THE VOTE!!
Meaning... Democrats will leave the party and go elsewhere! (Independent or Republican... but no one wants a third term of BUSH... so it will most likely be independent)
Don't believe me?!
Just wait and see.... we are already geared up and ready to go!
What is she talking about? Her guy supposedly has a bunch of supers to trot out as soon as he can show a couple more wins. He would have done it today, but the wins weren't there. He will do it when he takes Mississippi in an effort to slow her before Penn. Maybe she is just trying to stop anyone for declaring for Clinton.
Why are some Democratic leaders complaining about a long drawn out process when they are the ones that scheduled a long drawn out process? If they didn't want primaries in June, why schedule them. They need to shut up and let the voters vote.
This voice of moderation and conciliation needs to get stronger before the democratic party rips itself in half. Is 5 months enough to repair the damage Obama and Clinton could do to each other in the next 4 months?
10,000 people a day switched from Clinton to Obama in Texas and Ohio. Why all the fuss about shared ticket and time for superdelegates to weigh in – Clinton is scared that by the time Penn rolls around there will be no more support for her or her Rovian tactics.
Hillary's net gain on her "big win" night ... 12 DELEGATES TOPS ... straight from AP !! That balloon sure deflated in a hurry !
kindly let the wish of the people prevail...Maddam Speaker thank you for restating what we all have been saying... "IT'S THE PEOPLE STUPID"
Once again Pelosi opens her mouth and shows her ignorance on subjects. McCain was not calling for a 100-year war like what is going on right now in RIaq but a tropp presence like what is in Korea, Germany, England, Iceland, and many other coutnries where we have military bases.
Goodness, Pelosi is terribly blind to reality–no wonder our Congress has been so useless the last couple of years. This race is driving the Obama and Clinton camps as far apart as could be. For support of this conclusion, see ANY of the comments pages on any of these websites to see just how much hatred is being spewed...
I used to live in SF and I voted for Pelosi but I'm growing tired of her unwillingness to stand up as one of the most powerful women in the US Govt. and make a stance and let people know who she supports.
Obama 2008!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe that it was conservative Republicans crossing over to vote for Hillary that caused her to win! Because if hillary is the nominee, mccain will easily beat her.
OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am now convinced even more so that Pelosi is an idiot.
This is tearing the Democratic party apart. I can no longer vote for Hillary after her recent negative efforts against Barack. And I volunteered for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996.
Rather than party building, this is party squandering. I now have one foot out the door of a party that I never thought I'd leave.
HILLARY WILL WIN THE SUPERDELEGATE COUNT – As far as the Political experts go..... let me just say....... HA HA HA HA HA !!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !!! Would you guys like some Salt and Pepper with your CROW this morning !!! HILLARY TOTALLY STOPPED OBAMA and she pulls clear from here – All it took was people to ask him questions and he fell apart at the seams !
Who is Pelosi?
Do you delegate American people and democratic?
Sounds like you are the god!
2008 Hillary!
If Obama loses Penn, he needs to bow out for the sake of the party. It will be over for him regardless of delegate counts. Strategy needs to take precedent over the calculator. He credits the multiple "red" midwest states he has won primaries for, but he fails to carry critical democratic states and swing states necessary for the general election. To think otherwise is naive of any democratic voter who wishes to see the republicans out of the White House!
Pelosi is obviously ignorant. The current mudslinging Dem campaign only helps McCain. Gimme a break with the spin crap. Interesting though that Pelosi is looking more and more like Joan Rivers each day...
She is correct. Let the democratic process play out. That is best for USA.
I understand Ms. Pelosi is supporting Obama, which makes me a little uneasy. I want my vote to count and it's for Hillary.
GO HILLARY.
Nancy Pelosi has also stated emphatically that whichever candidate has the most pledged delegates by June should be the nominee. (as in- the nominee should not be crowned by superdelegates)
Senator Clinton probably does not agree with Speaker Pelosi on this matter. Too bad for Senator Clinton.
Yes, let the Dream Ticket unite, and destroy the pain McCain- what a lame.
I certainly hope it is not Hillary. Voters needs to know that real change is not a Clinton in a pantsuit.
My support will continue for Obama. I am a register voter here, in Philadelphia, PA and there are many of us who believe that, he is the better canidate.
Thank you,
Warmly,
Rosa T.S
I don't know why everyone is not see the whole picture.
America is not ready for a Black President. Hillary will be the Democratic runner, because she will be given it on a silver platter.
Obama needs to wake up and look in the mirror. the only way you will be President is if you are the last human on Earth and then again
they would give it to a Zippy the Chimp before you get it.
Why do you think they call it the "White House" wake up son,
wake up.
Whew, talk about old politics!!! I will probably get attacked on this because she is a woman, but man or woman – when democrats got back control of the house during the last mid-term elections, there were changes expected and a house that would fight Prez. Dumbo and make him do right. I almost as disgusted with Pelosi and her croonies as I am with how the press seems to walk on eggshells around Clinton regarding her past dealings and shadiness and not even bothering to report on the Paul vs. Clinton campaign finance fraud fiasco (try saying that fast 3 times!) in court in California right now. What a crock Pelosi is trying to weigh in on this!! Her and Rush need to go sit in a corner somewhere.
This sounds like Pelosi is a Clinton supporter!!! There is no mathematical way for Clinton to catch Obama. You need to stop this madness and turn to fight against McCain. If you allow Clinton to steal this nomination, I will be supporting McCain!!!
What has Pelosi accomplished as Speaker of the House? Same question for the Democratic Congress. The Democratic Party is revealing itself to be joke.
I have voted the Democratic ticket all my adult life (I am 58) but that stops now.
McCain is not perfect, but he has a bipartisan nature and he really is experienced.
I would trust him the most in a national crisis. You have to have a pretty cool head to survive what he survived. Clinton, e.g., would clearly end up over-compensating in this area and that could be a real problem.
I think I have had enough of Richardson, Edwards, Pelosi, Reid, the Clintons, Obama and all the rest of these guys.
My support will continue for Obama. I am a register voter here, in Philadelphia, PA and there are many of us who believe that, he is the better canidate.
Thank you,
Warmly,
Rosa T.S
Interesting....
Late-breaking numbers out of Texas’ odd two-phase voting system put an asterisk on Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night victory speech, showing gains made by Barack Obama in the delegate grab race had all but numerically canceled out her big win in Ohio.
I find this as interesting. I am not so sure if I agree with the prolonged campaign being good for the party. As it continues, the attacks from both sides will become more personal, and we will most likely see the division in votes as we have in some states, such as Texas, My big question is how will the superdelegates vote when the ball is in their court. That will be quite a situation when it happens.
Unless someone brokers a deal...this will go to the Convention in Denver. Pelosi obviously didnt get her education in math....unless its voodoo math. There were hints today that Clinton would accept Obama as her VP..the so-called dream team, if she was to somehow become the nominee. I wonder if this is what Pelosi means ?
I dont think Obama, if he was to win the nomination put Clinton on his ticket, not that she would ever consider or accept that offer, if it came.
Since Pelosi and Dean both have problems with re-runs in Florida ( which may deserve something) and Michigan ( absolutely NOT !!) it is almost mathematically impossible for Clinton to catch Obama in pledged delegates. So how does it not go to Denver ??? Do the math
Clinton will fight and her base of superdelegates will make this a much closer race than Obama wants.
Obama people are exteremly scared of their chances to lose to Clinton. They are inexperienced.
A highly partisan approach, to give her candidate more opoprtunity to pull it out. About the only distinctions to be made are between the two candidates themselves, and not with McCain. This will undoubtedly devolve into negative campaigning. How is tis "good" for the party?
Yes they will and it will be HILLARY!!!!!
This will wreck the party. I think they should settle it with a duel.
In other words: Obama is giving her some doubts & they want Hillary to spar with him some more. If they happen to grow the democratic base in the process & he is a casualty that's ok.
Clinton is going to Win!!
Fight Hillary Fight!!
Voters keep fighting!!
Hillary is our president
History in the making!!
Obama Lied in 08 while he said no!
Obama Lied!
Mrs. Pelossi
with all due respect, this will not occurr if Hillary can help it, she has divided the party so badly that her ego is bigger than Bush and Rush together.
Anyone but the Clintons..................
Perhaps Nancy should remind the Obama camp that things like "ask Clinton what she's hiding" as the previous story in this ticker indicates are decidedly NOT good for the party...
Thank you Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, I've waited for your voice of good reasoning which the democrat party needs. Now make sure that both Clinton and Obama understand the same and don't come back calling foul and want a superdelegate decision. Thank you Mrs. Speaker of the House Pelosi.
And I also certainly hope it is not Hillary Clinton. Voters need to know that real change is not a Clinton in a pantsuit.
Hillary – your supporters have spoken, yet again. You can carry this country to victory in 2008!
Dean needs to count FL & MI. Revote MI & let's get Hillary ready to lead us!
I wish people would do research on Hillary and quit taking her word for everything. She has pages upon pages of things that would shock you. Do your research open your eyes before you open your mouths!
Jeremy, why would Obama bow out when he is in the lead? Your lack of logic is impressive!
IF Hillary keeps putting herself 1st over the Majority.
As Indpendent ad wastfull a vote it would be to waste a vote on Ralph I would vote For McCain to take us to Hell because that is what we deserve.
Hillary for president....................................08........................................
Then why the heck John Kerry and Ted Kennedy are running around the country campaigning for Obama? Isn't MA their constituency?
Are those Hillary supporters or a meeting of Wednesday-morning quarterbacks? I love how she's still trailing by over 100 pledged delegates and up until last night, had lost 12 in a row, but the MSM and her rabid-lemming supporters are acting like her wins last night are the second coming of Christ.
Look under the bed. Find the hidden agenda. Look in the closet. Look in the dirty laundry. Look between your ears. Is it scary there, too?
Count Michigan and Florida.
Doesn't Nancy already have her hands full dealing with what many characterize as the worst Congress in history having an approval rating that rivals George Bush?
Yes.. clinton release your tax... we need to know.!!!!!!!!!.. democracy = transparency... ooops I forgot you are a Republican
Shame on you for using all the dirty tricks in the clinton's dictoionary to steal votes and still be proud. I wonder how you are able to sleep at night.
The only way the Deomcrats have a nominee before the convention is if they get rid of the two candiates they have now and start over.
But Hillary can't win without the superdelegates? I wonder what other tricks she has up her sleeve?
The way it is going for the Democratic party, we will see Mr. McCain in the White House.
This is great – let the voters decide without distraction!
Course, I wonder if Senator Kennedy has any regrets since his home state went to Clinton...:-)
I hope Senator Edwards will support Senator Clinton. Perhaps VP. I hope Governor Richardson stays his course and takes care of his own state.
Hillary/Obama
i hope she's not hinting towards that dream ticket crap. i will never vote for HRC on any ticket, and i will lose all respect for Obama for even agreeing to be on a ticket with that lying, underhanded witch. this will be one year i will stay home and not vote.
I am urging Obama to step down and let Hillary put her experience and knowledge in action. There will be plenty of time for Obama once he matures. Right now, is clearly not the right time for him. If he is a true democrat, he will put his ego aside and let Hillary go to work.
HRC robots,
This means Hillary can't win
What is Pelosi smoking? This long drawn out primary can't possible be good for the Democrats. McCain gets to run a clean campaign while Democrats tear each other apart. Then by the time the Dems do have a winner, they'll be to tattered to do much to McCain. Heck, Clinton's already helping out McCain–drawing the distinction not between the Dems and the Republicans, but between Obama on the one hand and her and McCain on the other.
Of course it will, you just have to smack some sense into Hillary.
Helloooooooo Hillary, your win is a mathematical impossibility, is this getting thru your thick head.
The house speaker even distorts what McCain said? It was clear and obvious what he meant but let's jump on the opportunity to use his words to mean something else because... hmmm... just because they can. Why don't you look at how many years we have been in many countries around the world?
When the super delegates do vote, I hope they vote with their states' voting results - i.e. Kennedy and Kerry will vote for Hillary! Sweet revenge. Make my day!
The caidate is not official until the Convention, there are still primaries to be held and then the underlieing question of Florida and Michigan to be settled. Superdeligates need to sit and be quite until the convention.
If people are so concerned to get a jump start on the Presidential campaign all that needs happen is for Mr Obama to bow out and permit the Clinton campaign to shift to the general election. Obama might even make a decent VP in training.
If Nancy does not want the party split then she should talk to Hillary.
-Tell Hillary to stop the fear-mongering!
-Tell her to not hestiate the next time she is asked if Obama is a muslim – she and all of congress knows he is a good christian man.
- Tell her to stop sending pictures of him in african clothing to suggest that he is a muslim.
- Tell her to release her tax forms, the papers on her years as first lady, and the fund raising papers for the clinton library. We have a right to know what she is up to!
The time to discuss the MI & FL delgates was when the deal was made and agreed to. It's to late. There will be war if now in the 11th. hour the rules of the game are changed.
Sheila,
Columbus,OH
Pelosi is right – do not play with superdelegates at this time.
It is important to reconsider a new Primary for both Michigan and
Florida – votes should be counted. We do not need more disastrous games in this country – we have enough!
Pelosi doesn't realize or is blinded by her support of Clinton, that delaying the process gives Hillary more time to join forces with John McCain to hit Obama from all sides and as a result, ultimately destroy the Democrat party.
As for Florida and Michigan, what part of the DNC's penalty do people NOT understand? They knew the risks when they moved up their primaries. Now they have to live with it. This whole idea of a "do-over" is nothing but a ploy by Clinton to capture votes that should have never been cast.
Clinton can't win. Too many people, right or wrong, hate her intensely.
Oh please Democratic party, please don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory! Don't do it again....we can't afford to blow it again!
I believe the Dream ticket is the best option. Clinton/Obama.
I think the superdelegates should get involved – MI and FL delegates should be awarded as well.
Did Pelosi argue that having Hillary go negative with innuedo and fear mongering would hurt the party and call for the candidates should stick to the issues and their records?
I must have missed that part.
Hillary is tearing the party apart and doing the dirty work for the Republicans!
She is really in no position to throw mud...she is knee deep in the stuff herself! Not that the media will notice...
Still in the lead OBAMA!! Honesty, integrity, and hard work will pay off. Oh yeah...YES WE CAN!
The point isn't that the votes didn't count. Everybody agreed to these terms.
The point is Hillary started fighting for them only after she fell significantly behind Obama. Her motives are incredibly transparent.
Please step in and tell Hillary to stand down before she drags Obama down with her.
Of course. That means Barack Obama. Only he can be ahead in delegates before convention.
Good Lord you Hillary supporters are delussional, she cannot mathematically win this nomination.
Her total net gain of pledged delegates yesterday was 4 yes FOUR, she may have won Texas but Obama got more delegates out of it, and she is losing in majority of the states left.
What planet are you living on?
You know what they say wish in one hand and ........ in the other see which one fills up first.
More than that, Van. He has gained at LEAST five. Maybe a couple more.
Hillary is on a roll--Cackle.Cackle
This year has taught up that both parties need to rethink the primary process. The math behind this is going to be a major let down to whichever candidate does not win the nominee. This is also applicable to the Republicans.
Superdelegates need to vote based on how their constituents think TODAY, not months ago.
Many who voted for Hillary in NH may no longer support. Those Iowa who have gotten to know Obama may no longer support him now that they've learned more about him.
And what about all the Edwards, Dodd, Kucinich, Richardson and Biden voters. . . they don't count?
And those votes were cast before Hillary voters knew she'd be going up againts McCain . . . same with Barack.
What's the point of Superdelegates if they're NOT supposed to use their judgement, but are simply supposed to vote the way others did months ago?
If Hillary is caught taking drug money tomorrow, are the Superdelegaes still supposed to vote for her because that's what their constituents did in January?
Superdelegates have an obligation NOT to vote how their Americans felt months ago, but how they feel now.
Who has more states?
Who has more delegates?
Who has a greater % of the popular vote?
YES WE CAN
Nancy, please address Michigan and Florida. They are American too and they deserve to be recognized in this historical election. Imagine yourself living in one of these states and being told, "your vote doesn't count". Would you stand for it? I didn't think so.
Does Pelosi have anything meaningful to say? She is useless. I've always been amazed that the house Democrats supported her to be a leader.
For all you Hillary friends, it would be nice for her to win but is she being fair to the American people. It seems as if Hillary has a lot to hide until after she is nominee. I hope she don't be impeached like her husband for not be up front with us. I really hate that she has resort to the crazy stuff of dirty politics because when she become President she needs to be clean and not hide anything.
I think that if superdelegates over ride the voters choise of Obama, then Obama should run as an independent. If Clinton wins on the up and up fine. But my vote goes to Obama or McCain
If Clinton is anywhere on the democratic ticket, I will NOT vote!
And, the democratic party will lose a major part of it's base (black voters) if she continue to go negative with lies.
*Side note *
To those who may say, who cares about the black vote…..
The democratic nominee will not win the election without a heavy black vote turn out. If you don't believe me, ask Al Gore and John Kerry!
Why do these dingbat Dems keeps saying that MaCain has called for a "hundred year war"? He didn't say that, they know it, everyone knows it. The man said "continuing presence", just like Japan, Germany, Kuwait. It's what is done after any war. Alexander did it, Caesar did it, the British Crown did it, Truman did it. Is that so hard for the Dems to understand the distinction? No, it's not. But Pelosi loves to be a bomb-thrower as much as any LibDem likes to be.
So silly, so sad.
The political bickering is perpetuated by the people who eat this stuff up. Judging by the board, people are still infighting amongst Dems. This is crazy. This has to stop. We are looking at the Democratic ticket already. This is already an advantage against Mccain, who hasn't chosen a V.P. yet. Just relax.
If you knew the issues well enough, you would realize that Hillary and Barack don't differ that much. They are the ticket to the nomination, so stop chastizing either one of them and get a grip.
Just wait unti l Mccain chooses Colin Powell for V.P. – that will change the dynamics significantly.
Wasn't it just stated on CNN's election coverage last night that neither candidate is going to have enough delegates to win the Democratic nomination, even if one of them won every remaining state, and that it would HAVE to be decided by super delegates?
And agreed...it's garbage that MI and FL don't get to vote.
As a Michigan voter, I hope my vote will be counted. It was not my fault that democratic party decided to punish Michigan for voting early. All the candidates could have and were encouraged to leave their names on the ballots. They choose not too. Hillary won. Just like in Florida names were left on and Hillary won. Democratic candidates were not to advirtise in Florida but Obama spent $1.3 million dollars in Florida.
Hillary Clinton's "attack Obama" strategy may come back and bite her in the general election if she ends up winning the nomination. Here's why: there are a huge number of Obama supporters who are extremely enthusiastic and protective of this candidate (myself included) and Obama has gotten people out to vote who ordinarily don't bother if Hillary gets all of these people angry at her for her mistreatment of Obama and SHE ends up in the general election with McCain all these democratic voters may simply stay home rather than cast a vote for her. Inasmuch as about HALF the voting democrats are behind Obama in such a tight race that'd be alot of votes to lose in the general
If the superdelegates disregard the pledged delegate count and give Hillary the nomination the Democratic party will be guilty of the same undemocratic behavior the Supreme Court showed when it gave Bush the 2000 presidential victory despite the fact that Al Gore had won more votes
Furthermore, such actions would only cement the idea, for some, that a persons vote doesn't count and would result in millions of voters becoming disaffected and abandoning the political process thereby ensuring a McCain victory in November
Tell your girl Hillary to tone down the negative rhetoric Mrs. Pelosi, then we'll talk about whether this primary is going to hurt the Democrats in the General Election. If Hillary keeps acting like a rabid attack dog you can all but guarantee John McCain will be the next President (her sound clip praising McCain's experience doesn't exactly help, because using her criteria he blows BOTH Clinton and Obama out of the water on experience)
Count all votes. Do not ignore the FL and MI voters. All voters deserve for their votes to be counted!
If we only rely on pledged delegates, we should definitely seat MI and FL – two critical states. If there has to be a revote for MI, so be it. I am sure Clinton can still win big there.
I think since Clinton has a statistical improbability of beating Obama, and the fact that he's STILL ahead with delegates/states/caucuses and everything it's time for her to bow out and allow her party to unite before the democratic convention. This is so the nominee can launch his campaign that day with huge coverage and outline his plans. Else McCain is getting this election handed to him.
A Democrat from Canada.
i think while Obama pledges to have a clean campaign, those who support him are dirtier than Hillary supporters.
Besides the fact that Obama is winning the delegate count and this will not change no matter how negative she gets, I just wish someone could tell me where this experience of hers is. Was it the legislation she co-sponsored with Lieberman on video game ratings (Family Entertainment Protection Act)? I feel much safer now knowing she answered that call at 3am.
And FL and MI should either revote or sit it out. Both candidates agreed before the election that this would be the case. In desperation Clinton decided to start counting on them even though no one else campaigned there.
Please Superdelegates, no more Clintons no matter how many favors you owe them. Respect the will of your constituents.
Are you serious? Obama is the only person who can lead this country in the right direction. Hillary is selfish and is trying to steal this the same way Pres. Bush did last time. I actually respected her before this campaign, but after I have seen her sneaky/nasty tactics, there is no way that I can vote for her. She should be uniting the Democratic Party; instead she's a selfish, self centered, ego-maniac. She's only wants to win. She's not concerned with the people of this country or party.
Hmmm. I wonder if this has anything to do with Obama's claim to have 50 superdelegates ready to support him. Since Clinton is up by 40 superdelegates, why not let Obama even the score so that the total delegate count truly reflects the disparity in elected delegates?
Hillary prevails.
NO way for Obama. Too many hidden problems that will be attacked by GOP.
But when will this pitiful 110th Congress finally do the peoples work??
I hope the D.N.C. will not go back on thier word that they
disqualified Florida and Michigan from causaues,
Fair is fair..
Or at least by Christmas break if all else fails, hey Nancy...
Clinton as President would defy the principles set forth by the Founding Fathers. She's already been eight years in the White House, let's see someone new. Change is good even if it makes us uncomfortable.
It is so funny that here you have Hillary with the most scandals, dirt, lies and cheating and people rejoice when Obama, without any of this, slips up or even points out Hillary's scandals. This country is doomed. Just like how everyone elected Bush (twice for goodness sake), people are making the same mistake and in 2 years people will be saying…"We all knew the history of Clintons and for some reason, we elected her and now we realize it is a mistake"
Way to go America. For 24 years, we have and will be ruled by unqualified presidents. Presidents, who if they were young boys or girls, you will not want dating your sons or daughters.
CLINTON = FRAUD (JUST LIKE BUSH)
Katherine – there is no way for Obama to get the numbers he needs to be nominee also. Face it they need each other and America needs both of them.
American are fighters, resilent and we need a strong President not a weak President or liberal!
LOL she says I am the one to beat McCain.. Yeah right.. when it comes to mud slinging she will lose in every corner with all her scandals she is involved in. WAKE UP!!
Who in their right mind would suggest that Obama could receive good and proper training as VP under Hillary Clinton. If he does not win the nomination (although it appears he will) he needs to say no thank you to any offer from Hillary before making the mistake of taking the job and getting training under a Clinton administration that will be a complete failure not to mention corrupt.
Manuel TX... Florida and Michigan are being punished for holding their Primaries too early. I am kinda proud that the Democratic Party has punished them for that... unlike the Republican Party which crams "Tradition" and "Heritage" and "Values" down our throats, but turns their heads when states break the rules... Republicans = Hypocrits.
We certainly will have a nominee before the convention.
Hillary Clinton!
Go Hillary!!
Pelosi should shut her mouth and let this play out. She got into her position by default. It looks to me like she doesn't want any other woman to be above her.
Why so many non-democratic voters are allowed to select the democratic candidate is beyond me. If they want to vote in a democratic primary or caucus, they should register as democrates.
Thank goodness we have super-delegates to make sure that it is ultimately the Democrates that chose the Democratic candidate...not all those stary-eyed, "independants".
HILLARY08!!!!!
Latina for Obama – your back so how did you like last night results? The voters have spoken! Lets see Hillary has WON the big states and Obama has won the little states! Gee I wonder why!
Because America wants a strong President and its Obama turn to show that can be tough and not with Hillary show us your taxes.
McCain is waiting and he is a lion! You heard that people A LION!
Richardson said that after yesterday, whoever that has the most delegates is whom he will endorse. OBAMA, we are looking forward to richardson's endorsement..
OBAMA '08
Nancy Pelosi is correct, the super delegates do not need to speak. The general public has chosen and is choosing their President for the United States of America. Knowledgeable American citizens have given Senator Barak Obama a nearly insurmountable delegate lead.
i agree with keeping this going, because its great for all of america to be able to cast their vote ..................but nancy i wouldnt go as far to blame the blunders of spending so much on the war.......take a look at how much you fools spend in washington.........i mean you folks need to cut the budget and stop spending.........when is your bank account maxed out? do you folks have credit cards with no limits? i know we have an idiot in the white house but im wondering how many are in congress as well................i guess its easier to spend someone elses money............... go hilary
on the subject of superdelegates...my understanding was that the DNC came up with this concept of superdelegates to 1) break a tie/virtual tie or 2) to overturn a bad decision made by the voters in the primaries ( this happened due to low turnout before).....and since it appears no one is overly concerned about either candidate it appears the superdelegates will breakthe stalemate. Here is my major concern: Why do superdelegates endorse/support a candidate DURING the primaries. I think they should stay on the sidelines until all the primaries are completed before indicating their support. Anything less is distorting and becomes un-democratic.
There are enough Anybody but Hillary (ABH) or Anybody but Clinton (ABC) around to help McCain enter the White House.
Obama will be silly to share the ticket with Hillary.
That will be Hillary Clinton.
If Hillary wins Dem nomination, I will ... vote for John McCain.
Um, is Pelosi an idiot? How can the nominee be decided before the convention, UNLESS a bunch of superdelegates cast their vote for one of the candidates before the convention?
And this is good for the party? She's nucking futs.
I can't believe these people get elected. Wait, after reading many of the posts here, I understand how...
PA – Enough, first of all she did not send pictures of Obama in African clothing and you are misleading all of this people. You are the fear mongerer. and I hope CNN posts this so people know that people like you are trying to manipulate the rest of us. Shame on you!
And also, by the way, who cares if he is christian, the president's religion is not important to any of us but you and the republicans. and the only person who would know if he is a good christian is god, and it is only HIS business
If Hillary gets the nomination with less pledged delegates than Obama, there will be a backlash against the democrats and McCain will win the presidency.
You're right on track, Paul. Obama is a lot of talk with little or no experience. He needs a bit more training for the job as our leader.
All you men out there, with hang-ups about a woman for president, vote for experience not for your gender. I woke up, smelled the roses and I'm going for the best candidate to run this country.
Hillary "08"
Sen. Clinton would not have won on Tuesdsay, if those income taxes and white house documents had been released. You can believe she is hiding something and it is not good, but the media is not pressuring the Clinton's they are helping them. The peoples are entitled to know what shaded deals they have made that will affect this country. Sen. Obama, should keep ringing those word " YES, WE CAN" words are important and they inspire's people to made a change and want a change for the betterment of this country.
Gerri
Calling all haters, calling all haters: Hillary haters and Obama haters. Please step to the other side of the aisle where haters belong. Once you get your panties out of a wad, you can come back to the reasonable side. Now hurry, go.
America is not ready for a black president? America is tired of old ignorant thoughts that belt out how ignorant people can be. Obama is half white so I guess he can be president. (ha) It's about 2008 not 1898, Go Obama!! In addition, don't go anonymous, if you're bold enough to make stupid remarks, be bold enough to come forward.
The only way we have a candidate before the convention is if HIllary is forced out by higher-ups in the party. It is not possible for her to catch up in pledged delegates. When all is said and done Obama will have more delegates, more states and more popular votes... at that point, how do you NOT give him the nomination without subverting the will of the Democratic Party electorate?
ANSWER: YOU DON'T. Unless Hillary is willing to gracefully bow out once it is clear she cannot catch up in pledged delegates (she won't) she will create a lose/lose situation for the party.
This is one Democrat who is disgusted by Hillary and her fear and smear tactics. I will NEVER cast my vote for her.
lets all hope the candidate is Barack Obama. Hillary you can not trust
if her last name was anything but clinton then i would think about voting for her to many memories of good old bill and the crap this man pulled while in the whitehouse
Sad by what the Canadian government leaked leading up to Ohio and Texas.
The sense among the Canadians I know who are watching this closely is that: the current Conservative gov fears Obama as he poses a definite threat to McCain, whereas Clinton would be a joke in the real Elections.
I hope that Obama wins it > he would restore my faith in the US.
Ditto to Rob on his response to Jeremy
&
LOL to Victori's "I would vote For McCain to take us to Hell because that is what we deserve."
Cheers.
One Canuck
I hope that we don't lose in November because these candidates are being selfish. The personal attackes are not good for the party. Some of the recent Clinton tactics are straight out of the republican playbook.. If this continues I will vote for Ralph Nader.
John McCain's critics continue to distort his comments, "a 100- year war", concerning the possible need to establish an ongoing US presence in Iraq as we have done in other parts of the world. He would welcome debate on this strategy in an intelligent manner. We are also likely to see attempts linking John McCain to President Bush in an attempt to discredit him. With a history as a maverick, John McCain's independent streak upsets Republicans and Democrats alike. It becomes obvious this a political ploy and a rather poor one at that.
Pennsylvania for Obama!
Victori, you are just one vote and your vote will not take us to hell. We count all including Florida and Michigan then the clean winner comes out with 2025 delegate.
As a first time voter, I would feel cheated if Michigan and Florida are counted at this time. This amounts to changing the rules while the game is underway to benefit a particular candidate. Let's raise the bar a little bit higher and set a good example.
Kazi iendelee
Hillary has her groove back, way to go.
Even though Clinton won Ohio and Texas. She didn't get enough votes to over take obama in the delegate count which matters so please the rest of the country lest not have a broken convention and superdelegates lets end this fast lets all vote for Obama and start getting ready for McCaine. He's going to be far ahead in planning we need to start now and stop this bitter nonsence. USA for Obama. Vote Obama and lets go after mccaine!!!
Yes Obama – No Hillary. NO NO NO Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama!
What does Hillary have to hide on her tax return? Chris Matthews where are you? Please shed on light on her big tax secret. What's going on?
In addtion to the super delegates, Florida and Michigan need to be dealt with. You can't have these two states have un-counted votes. It would be bad for the party. The situation needs to be cleaned up.
We sure will! HILLARY CLINTON 2008!!!!!!!!!!
I think Pelosi is using reverse psychology... I think the more people pressure Hillary to step down the more determined she will be to prove them wrong – GIGANTIC EGO.....If the powers that be appear to encourage this fight she may let her guard down and think about getting out because she has nothing to prove to anyone anymore....
Hillary-Mr. Abama continues to tout his good judgement at will. Counter it with his por judgement on following: Resko, Canadaian fiasco, his Pastor and Minister F, friendship with the avowed (ow proffesso)terrorist, and a wife that has had no pride in America for forty years – if she feels that way so does he.
He's gotten enough milage out of your Iraq vote. All the above showed very bad usdgement.
Hillary is a cheater. She lies and brings ugly to the party. I want a president who is a uniter not a devider. People all around the world are laughing at us. A democrat attacking a fellow democrate. Giving false levridge to a republican. Hillary is going to make it very hard for another woman in later elections to ever run. She's giving women a bad name.
Barack Obama is the one
Barack Obama is the truth
Barack Obama will "CHANGE" our nation
Barack Obama will listen to all voices
Americans, you can't suppress the voters from MI and FL. If you do – what kind of democracy is that?
European
'08 P:Hillary and VP:Obama
'12 P:Hillary and VP:Obama
'16 P:Obama
'20 P:Obama
Clinton can never win...she has bunch of supporters..and that is not enough to win Republicans..or else Kerry would have won 4 years ago...
Obama's supporters are dedicated to Obama, not democrat party...
McCain is going to win..
Obama should never be Hillary's VP...
After all that yesterday, she still way behind in the pledge delegates.
Even if she wins the rest of the elections, she still won't beat him on elected delegates or even states won.
Will the super delegates vote over the people votes? I don't think so. The ones that are backing Hillary will pay the price if the super delegates override the will of the people.
Clinton still has to win like 70/30 or 60/40 in all of the states in order to win the nomination, something she can't do. Obama will get the nomination, Hillary only has one more large state to fall back on, and after that everything will go in Obama's column. It works to his favor, he will get the nomination!!!! Obama will clearly have the most delegates and the super delegates will put him over the top!!
Obama Richardson 08!!!!!
I think it will go all the way to the convention and end up with a split party. There is to much bad blood on either side. I am a Barack supporter but I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. Members in my own family say the same thing. McCain has aready made a step toward bringing his base together and the Dems are still battling it out. I feel that this will cause McCain to win the Presidency.
As for those people complaining that Hillary is splitting the party......Did anyone catch a glimpse of Kerry last night? He uses every chance he gets to insult Hillary, and he's not the only Democrat big voice who does so!!! I would suggest that some of these Super delegates Keep a little quieter if they are (as they say) worried about splitting the party!!!
For months I have been posting here about Rezkogate and this story is finally getting national attention. I believe the more people look into Obama's real estate transaction with Rezko, the more they will smell a rat. Bottom line: why would Rezko, out of the goodness of his heart, sell that parcel of land to Obama for less than he paid for earlier on the same day! What was the difference, a payoff, a gift? Did Obama report a gift return to the IRS? Bottom line: Obama may talk about a new politics but his recent transaction with Rezko has the smell of corrupt Chicago politics. Obama could not afford his home without the help of Rezko and this transaction. Why would a character like Resko do such a favor? All that Obama says is that it was bone-headed for him to have done this, but won't answer questions about the specifics. Don't drink the Kool-aid, people. This could be a political Jonestown!
Hillary will never win the presidency. It was republicans and illegal aliens that gave her the "victories" in TX and OH. Closing the delegate gap by 12 over 2 states the size of TX and OH is hardly a "Big" win. If her bought and paid for Super D's circumvent the will of the electorate, then I will bet any Clinton supporter a box of Cuban cigars that Obama supporters will vote for McCain just to save the integrity of the process. No more Bush. No more Clinton. No more entrenched political parasites stealing elections from CITIZENS.
NM
What is Obama doing??? All of these comments about her tax return... All of you guess that 15 years of information is easy to put together... I think most of us have a hard time with just 1 year...
Very disappointed that Obama is doing this... I am starting to wonder now if he is ready to be president... He seems to be making another rookie mistake attacking Clinton... This will only call into question his lack of experience... Obama is setting himself up to lose support and once again falling into the political trap... so much for being different!!!
CNN and rest of the media is not the king makers they thought they were!
Haha-he he I loved watching their faces last night say Uh … oh it looks like Hillary is winning by big numbers!! Like we tried to to tell everyone she is the one we want ! She can get the job done******* HELLO MADAM PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON *08*
We Obama supporters just have to keep chugging along and do our part, volunteer, donate, and call for Obama in the upcoming primaries and caucuses. I believe as long as Obama stays positive and draws good distinctions between him and Hillary, he will be our nominee. As long as Obama has the lead in total pledged delegates and total popular vote, the Demoratic Party leaders (i.e. superdelegates) are hinting that they will come his way after June 6th to push him over the 2025 mark to win the nomination.
All right HOPE-MONGERS let's get back to work!
Obama in 08!
These Obama fanaticals are ridiculous. Obama has as much blame in dividing the party than any other candidate in recent memory.
Last night at the Texas caucuses, many Obamabots were threatening Hillary supporters and many vandalized Hillary slogans/signs on people"s yards. Yup, this is change I can believe in. Yeah right? It's preposterous and his fanatical supporters have more hatred than most Hillary supporters I know. Obama should feel proud.
Darth- don't you know Hillary supporters are uneducated...what do they know about MATH???
let them fly in air.....
Goodness, Pelosi is terribly blind to reality–no wonder our Congress has been so useless the last couple of years. This race is driving the Obama and Clinton camps as far apart as could be. For support of this conclusion, see ANY of the comments pages on any of these websites to see just how much hatred is being spewed…
by Carla
BOY DID YOU GET THAT RIGHT CARLA!
Yea Man ! We's great. Yea's we's can do it! Ha, Ha. Obama is nothing but hot air and deceit. He claims to have not voted for the Iraq war. He's right he didn't. He wasn't in the Senate at the time. He was an IL. State Senator. The last time I looked they don't vote in National Senate meetings. Stop backing this crook. HILLARY 08
Yeah and we will choose HILLARY the ONLY one who will bring our country back and beat McCain.
Why does CNN continually show Michigan and Florida as dark blue states for Clinton; shouldn't they have a different color to designate they are not yet counted in either camp?
To LeAnn
You said Mathematically, Hilary CAN'T win! And if the super delegates step in and steal the nomination from Obama, I guarantee you…
THERE WILL BE A BLACK OUT OF THE VOTE!!
Well
HOW STUPID
Obama can't win Mathematically either. Check it out. And by the way isn't your statement trying to create the fear factor!!!
You have only one choice, or forfeit the outcome.
Just like I said! This time you also must get it right. Or go another 8 yrs! Because if Mccain wins just once. It will be another two terms, before the whole of the USA, will let him go... Democrats, or Doomo-crats....
Go Hillary! All the way to the wire. Next come the Breeders Cup......
obama is the weakest link
we donto need another john kerry to be the nominee, we need a fighter, we need someone not afraid to speak up and talk back, we need hillary, not mr rogers
LeeAnn-
GO we really do not need you and if you want to damage the party just becuase your guy did not get the nod, then you were NEVER committed in the first place... LATER
This race needs to played out to the convention. Without Michigan and Florida being resolved prior to it, it doesn't mean beans. Floridians should not have been punished by the DNC just because the republican governor and republican controlled legislature decided to move up the dates of the primaries. I cry foul!
Hillary 08
The bottom line is , Obama can't win the big states ! Which are the most important ones in November.
Hey Anounymous # 1 if u got nothing to say, just shut up. What u are saying is just nonsense. Use ure ure brain before open ure mouth. By the way how the hell they can posted such a stupid comment!!!
What CNN is hiding? You closed the PoliticalTicker comments on the topic "Obama camp: what's Clinton hiding" because you got the opposite comments/opinions from people against Obama statement. Instead people attacking Clinton, they were attacking Obama's records on REZKO and other issues.
What CNN hiding.
I think Pelosi is right, it is only 100 delegates differences not include Michigan and Florida..
I was thinking about the "red phone" ad and was wondering if it was red-faced call from Bill saying he won't be home.
What's Hillary Clinton hiding??
how about the picture(Clintons with Rezko)??
Hey Nancy! When it gets to crunch time, remember how your constituents here in San Francisco voted, OK? I hope you heard us!
Good Lord,
and they say Obama folowers are a cult
have you read some of the things Hillary supporters are writing, scary stuff, seek help people.
It is amazing the number of times that the same people post messages! Do the professional bloggers have a job or a life? Let's gets real – any of the Dem candidates can win the typical Dem "big" states. They are killing each other right now – and the supporters are just as bad! Some of the comments are very sensible – others are very mean spirited and redundant on multiple posts!
obama congaratulates clinton for winning ohio
when was the last time you saw clinton congatulae obama?.....she is sorry loser and wants to wine and lai her way into the nomination.
Nancy Pelosi has lost credibility as far as I'm concerned. I don't think she knows any more than anybody else.
I am really surprised that some media qualifies that results of OHIO and Texas as a come back. These states, by their demography, had from the beginning on a large advantage for Hillary and in view of
the poor performance from Supertuesday on, Hillary hoped that she
could obtain a huge win there to compensate Obama's advantage
Factually the huge advantage disppeared in Texas, even without considering th Caucuses she got only 51/49 and in Ohio went back
from 20% advantage to 55/45.
And this only because of Obamas campaign failure to respond adequately to her attacks.
FACT IS THAT she was only able (incl. RI) to better her 153 lag in elected delegates from 153 to 135 (without considerinG Tx Causcuses)
CONSIDERING THAT THESE WERE THEIR BEST SHOTs: IS THIS A COMEBACK ???
And we all suspect that when she discloses her tax returns, before Pennsylvania, this will have a devastating effect., not only for her
nmination and political future, but for the democratic party.
Regarding to her party: unfortunately, the disastrous campaigning by
both contenders (as well as the negative adds by Hillary) leave it wide open to McCain attacks, even without making use of such mud slinging opportunities:
As example: Saying that NAFTA is bad, even if it is a demonstrable fact that it was good for the US economu as a whole. To say it must
be modified to favor of all States is the same to say that Mexican and Canadian goods cannot win anywhere, but US goods can win in these countries. AFTER SUCH, THESE CANDIDATES ATTACK BUSH FOR DISGRUNTLING FRIENDLY COUNTRIES ?? AND OF COURSE, NEITHER OF THESE COUNTRIES WILL AND SHELL ACCEPT SUCH ABSURDITIES.
Then, attacking the war in IRAQ only basing on the dumb argument that it cost much money and lives (which is valid for any war) , will
be easily argued with by stating that in this case the war on Hiltlers
Germany and Japan was a big mistake. And if the situation continues
improving, this capaign, including the Bush hating, will backfire.
AN FINALLY: MANY OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY NOR HILLARY SUPPORTERS FOR OBAMA, EVEN IN CASE OF A "DREAM TICKET", IF THEIR CANDIDATE IW NOT THE No.1.!!
THIS BEING A CONSEQUENCE OF HILLARY;S POISONOUS ATTACKS !!
TOM
The super delegates need to protect this election from the mess as a result of Jessie Jackson's delegate porportioning to the losing side. If this was a winner of a state take all allotment, this race would be over. Hillary has won eight of the nine largest states in America. Obama's largest delegate count is Illinois. Let the FL and MI votes, or re-election take place, have the super delegates turn this into a true state by state winner take all election. In November, we vote at the ballot box for the next president. Obama, the king of the caucuses will be exposed in an electoral process. Georgia, Idaho, Utah etc. are already republican states.
GIVE SENATOR CLINTON HER DELEGATES!
THE REPUBLICANS IN FLORIDA WANT TO DRAG THIS THING OUT!
SHE WILL GET THEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!
I DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING DISENFRANCHISED!
IF HILLARY HAD HER MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA DELEGATES THIS RACE WOULD BE OVER!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE WITH YOU SENATOR CLINTON!!!!!!!!
I think what will become crystal over the next several days is that, mathematically..it is virtually impossible for Hillary to win by the regular means. This has nothing to do with animus or support for Obama, but rather, everything to do with cold, hard numbers. HRC needed bigger margins last night, which she didn't get.
On the issue of Florida and Michigan...they broke party rules! We are a nation of laws and rules...why then should states who willfully and knowingly broke them despite being warned, now be allowed to count?
Hey Mandy, grow up, you don't speak for the party you probably have never been part of it, and if you have been. shame on you.
HILLARY 08!!!!
HILLARY/CLARK
obama, never mind i am sure that you are going to be our nex
next president of the united states of america and you know what choose mr. john edwards as a vice president .........thank you
What are we talking about? What are Hillary's big wins? Let's be real. According to the account I saw in Yahoo, after the recounting of the Texas Caucus (where Obama won), Hillary, all together, closed the gap with only 12 delegates (in the 4 States). CNN, I hope that if you are not Hillary biased, you will publish my comment.
Who are these people demanding to see Hillary's taxes?! Who are you people? How about you show everyone your taxes! We have a failed War in Iraq, a falling economy, a huge mortgage/foreclosure mess and what ever other crisis we have (immigration, health care, education) etc etc. WOW, talking about the important issues and the problems that face this country. Looks like these people that blog these ridiculous responses on here have their own personal issues to deal with. Priorities people! My god all ready!
posted above
"Good Lord you Hillary supporters are delussional, she cannot mathematically win this nomination.
Her total net gain of pledged delegates yesterday was 4 yes FOUR, she may have won Texas but Obama got more delegates out of it, and she is losing in majority of the states left.
What planet are you living on?
You know what they say wish in one hand and …….. in the other see which one fills up first."
If you do the math neither one of them will win with out MI or FL... the delegate count will be very close... not sure why all of you are arguing or mentioning this... One of them will have to quit for the math to work... complete waste of everyone's time... the party needs to do something now if they do not want it to get out of hand...
The discrepancy between the caucus results and the primary results in Texas shows how UNFAIR and UNDEMOCRATIC caucuses are. Do you think older voters can go stand a school gymnasium at 8pm at night to go through some arcane delegate selection procedures? NO! Only Obama's younger supporters can do that.
Just look at Washington State, where Obama got 68% of the caucus vote, but only 51% of the primary vote.
Obama's caucus wins are illegitimate! If the pledged delegate count is close, I say give it to Hillary, because Obama has more delegates than public opinion says he deserves.
And we should absolutely let Florida and Michigan re-vote to help settle this mess.
Someone needs to teach math to Ms. Pelosi........she appears to be the only one educated who cannot understand that Clinton cannot win this election by the numbers. She can only steal it from the majority of the American voters. Clinton simply does not have the numbers to win. Perhaps Pelosi is hopeful that Clinton can have more time to talk the supers into ignoring the majority of American voters and if this is the case? I hope the people who vote her into office remember that she apparently thinks it's o.k to steal an election and ignore the majority......
Hillary Clinton hates freedom!
God bless you Hillary...
You're exactly what the Republican party needs right now. Keep tearing each other apart and saying the things we can't!
ANYONE but Hillary in 2008!
Speeches may not create solutions, Hillary, but neither does pandering. And you blow more hot air than any politician in Washington.
It's a shame that Hilliary had to result to mudslinging to get people to vote for her. How is that a solution for America? Sounds like the same old Washington to me. And as for experience, George Bush had experience. We are fighting someone elses war and look at our economy today. Bill Clinton had experience and he was impeached. Experience with no morals or common sense.
"Instead of making false attacks, we urge Senator Obama to release all relevant financial and other information related to indicted political fixer Tony Rezko," Wolfson also said.
Can someone inform Wolfson about Hsu? Hsu is a crrok and is in jail now. He funded Hillary's campaigns and when he as arrested, she had to return $850,000 (eight hundred and fifty thousand) to charity. Hillary should release her tax returns now as well as her WH memos that she lied about during the last debate that Pres Bush was sitting on. What are you hiding Hillary?
Republican will play two major cards in election: National security and NAFTA as McCain claimed.
Hillary will defend herself well on focusing the strategy to end of War rather than playing blame game who was wrong in the beginning. She has also shown her urgency on National security crisis. So McCain may win a little bit but not the smoking gun because they can’t accuse her position on War...
NAFTA is a very complicated and controversy issue, no one will be winner. It was a comprised deal with balancing power and international interests.
However, Hillary got three swords that will kill Republican: economy (McCain admitted himself not an expert), Healthcare and immigration reform.. That is the bottom line that Superdelegates are looking for...
Obama has no match on all the issues to McCain since he got no experiences.. The advantage he got is to bring more independent votes and young votes...
McCain is a moderate Rep so he will secure enough independent vote to crown all red states.. For younger vote, they just sway by...
Scandals: Hillary got all known scandals and Rep can't dig anything new; However, Obama claimed himself off dirty politics but actually came from the biggest dirty politics in his home town. Rep likes to dig that more...
Ever wonder why Hillary is not hitting Obama hard about Rezko?
Have you all seen the picture of Tony Rezko sandwiched in between Bill and Hillary Clinton? Do a simple for clinton and rezko and you'll find the picture.
The Clintons know all top DNC fundraisers. At least 12 of their closest buddies are in jail right now, with more to join them.
She wins the states that Dems have to win to get elected!
What are my fellow Dems thinking? Is the party really considering about not including FL and MI, two states that are proven to be crucial in the Presidental Elections.
Oh and counting FL and MI she has the LEAD in the popular VOTE!
Go Hillary
No one is suppressing the voters from FL and MI......their votes were stripped by their own leaders. The math also shows that Clinton cannot catch Obama in the delegate count even using their numbers.....time for a reality check for some along with a math refresher......
Hillary would sell her child to become President, There will be no "dream ticket" because Hillary would never take the Vice President role. Pelosi is correct the democrats need to finish this process if they have any hope of winning the white house. The republicans will destroy Hillary, the democrats have one chance at the white house and that is Obama.
Did Pelosi receive a phone call from McCain thanking her for allowing Clinton to do his dirty work?
Did Pelosi thank Limbaugh for all the extra votes for Hillary? Isn't it great when the Republican Right Wing want a specific candidate?
Makes you wonder where Pelosi stands.
Based on the numbers on how people voted from the primary results, it does clearly indicate that Hillary is the better candidate of the two to go against McCain. In order for us to win in November... Vote for Hillary!
Clearly many of the Obama supporters, having chosen the candidate able to unify people, aren't even willing to take the step of unifying the democratic party. And do not care that their candidate (the uniter) has not chosen to suggest that option. That of unity.
What a concept!!!!!
The votes are about 50/50 %- neither has nor can get a mandate.
The joint ticket is not only viable, but doable and appeases both- pretty evenly divided- sides.
I applaud HILLARY for being the first to suggest it. It shows the ability to put the good of the country before personal ego, it demonstrates quality leadership, shows an ability to be a uniter.
Obama, who claimed himself an able uniter, now looks petulant and unwilling to unite his own party.
That is why the mature voters went with Hillary and the kids jumped on the Obama celebrity bandwagon. Celebrities are out for fame and for their own legacy.
True leaders, like Hillary, are unselfish and do not permit ego and arrogance and a sense of entitlement to cloud their judgement. They fight, fight, fight for the chance to serve and to better the people.
I'm awed by this GREAT lady, her charm, her humor and her ability to command respect by taking the high road.
Obama- if he is sincere- should be not only willing, but glad to serve alongside her
Nobody's suppressing the vote in MI or FL. State officials, prior to the start of the campaign and well aware of the penalty if they proceeded, chose to ignore the determination of the national party that they not move their primaries forward. They did so anyway, and were penalized accordingly, well before the primary began. Those voters who cast ballots in MI and FL knew – or at least should have known – their votes wouldn't count.
It's typical of the Clinton campaign that they will attempt to steal this election by changing the rules after the fact. They've already thrown their ktichen sink of garbage at Obama, used Rovian tactics to defeat him in Texas and Ohio, and driven this campaign into the gutter. Why not cheat to win? After all, all it takes is a little spin, and a compliant press, to pretend it doesn't matter one bit!
I beieve it is only fair that Clinton bring out her taxes
of 2005,2006 and 2007.
I do believe if she becomes president she will not bring out
all her tax information due to the fact that she is comander
in chief.
Clinton cannot withstand republican attacks. Hillary promised universal health care in 1992, and was unable to fullfill it. She wants to garnish people's wages if they do not pay for health care. That is very communistic and unconstitutional. She wants to mandate legislation to mandate healthcare pricing. This would bring down companies that generate billions of dollars every year that helps our economy. Yeah, right.
If she was this expert on health care, she'd know that America must do what every other civilized nation has done: the government provide health care for everyone.
The latest pledged delegate count (not including Texas caucus results) shows Obama with a 1344-1208 lead, or 136 delegates. There's roughly 611 delegates left to be decided, meaning Clinton has to win at least 62% (depending on Texas caucus outcome) of the remaining vote across ALL states, including Obama's strongholds. To date, I think she's only achieved that mark in two out of the 41 contests, or 4.88% of the time. With 12 contests to go, it's just not going to happen.
For the mathematically challenged, this race is as over as could be. The only reason the media is making it seem like there's anything left is to drive up ratings. Even majoring in miracles won't save Hillary Huckabee now...
Jeremy March 5th, 2008 2:26 pm ET
Yes. It is time for Obama to bow out. Thank you. Stop your cult slogan "Yes, we can!".
"Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!""Yes, we can!"…. But HOW can you?
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With all due respect, Jeremy – You are an idiot.
You candidate has lost 12 of 15 contests after Super Tuesday. She has never been in the delegate lead. Now, THAT sounds to YOU as if your candidate is winning and Obama has to give up. Say, did you go to school at all ?
I am an Obama supporter, but i agree that they should let process continue.
I believe Hilary won last night by playing the muslim card, the nafta card and the fear card.
Most of the voters fell for it.
mitch and flor?
put michigan and florida to rest. it was their representatives undoing! both hillary and barrack, together with the other democrat candidates, who signed off on these procedures when hillary was the "annointed one." if, because of hillary's whining that these rules are changed mid-stream, then imagine what the consequences will be, not just the year's election but years down the road.
i agree, michigans and floridians are americans as well and deserved to be recognized, but rules are rules. everybody should abide by them.
And Hillary will be the nominee!
Just a thought...I was watching ALL the speeches from yesterday. Mike Huckabee was with his wife...John McCain was beside his wife...Obama's wife lead him out to the stage to speak...BUT WHERE IS BILL CLINTON?!?....I"m I the only one noticing that Hillary Clinton and her campagin are trying to HIDE Bill Clinton? Why do I not see them together...You only see Hillary by herself or with their daughter, or you see Bill by himself or with their daughter...Interesting Hillary...Do you honesty think Republicans will not pick up on this if you win the nomination?!?
.....AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH...........
....I should have been a liberal, not betray them.................
.....AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH......................
I am thoroughly disgusted that my own party stole my vote. It's happened before, but what can you expect from Republicans?
I don't know why people keep flapping their mouths about "a deal is a deal" – we, the Florida VOTERS did not make any "deal," and our votes should mean just as much as anybody else's.
I have sent an email to the DNC expressing my disgust with them. They may regret their stupid decision. Florida IS a big state, and I and many others might just make sure our votes count in November by voting McCain if Obama wins the Democratic nomination.
McCain never said anything about a 100-year war anywhere and Pelosi knows it or she is brick stupid. We aren't at war in Germany or Japan anymore but have been in both more than 60 years.
As to the "electoral process" in the Democratic Party, that is a bad joke. MI and FL don't count (because they wouldn't abide by the DNC-dictated schedule) and the superdelegates are being strong-armed to vote according to the will of the voters when the entire superdelegate system – which shows how poorly these people reason – is designed to direct the nominee in the absence of the will of the people determining the nominee by a specific delegate count. Neither Obama or Clinton are going to make that count without superdelegates and they have NO OBLIGATION, moral or otherwise, to vote with the popular primary voters. Who should they show allegiance to? The national count? Their state or precinct count? Their friend and long-time politcal ally? Oprah?
The DNC was mistaken to change the winner-take-all nature of the primaries because in a real election that is how it works.
Who is listening to Pelosi. Pelosi is following the BHO line -
SD should vote according to her district
MI and FL should not be counted.
How about telling that to Kennedy and Kerry in the senate the same rules
SD should vote according to her district as well let her reps in CA vote for HRC as she won CA.
I am a White Male Democrat, and if Clinton wins I will specifically go to the polls to vote for McCain.
Hillary's response to the 3am call will probably be to cry like she did after she lost Iowa.
If she can't satisfy one man, there's no way she can satisfy an entire nation.
Neither Obama or Clinton can get to the magic number. Florida and Michigan votes should count. Obama removed his own name from the ballot in Michigan and told everyone to vote uncommitted. Rookie mistake!
For your Consideration:
08 Mc Cain – Condi Rice
12 Condi Rice – ?
In 4 more years you get both for a Real President – a 100% Real Black and a 100% Real Woman!
Reality Check people.
Obama 1,321 Pledged: Seems like a pretty good Margin
Hillary :1,186Pledged: It's Over Hillary
I certainly hope that there is a nominee before the convention, and I disagree with House Speaker Pelosi that a prolonged campaign is good for the party. Good grief, just read these posts. People are getting angry and mean. A year ago, I thought that the democrats were a shoe in to win the White House. Now, I'm not so sure. I personally will support whoever the democratic nominee is, because I don't want Bush, part 2...Will you??
It amazes me that people keep saying Hillary can't win with pledged delegates... but neither can Obama. NEITHER of them can win the nomination outright before the Convention happens. The math is impossible on both sides.
Why should she conceed when she won the popular vote in the Texas primary? 2.5 million people voted in that primary, and she won the majority. 100,000 people voted in the caucuses that Obama "won". The numbers demonstrate disparity – obviously this proves that the caucus states that Obama won came from the significant fact that Hillary's base is made up of people who have neither the time nor resources to go sit for hours in a caucus room.
If you want the real voice of the people, go back to every single caucus state and hold a primary, where ALL of the people can vote. Then see how the numbers stack up. I think you will see a very different picture painted, and a different mathmatical formula for delegates in front of you.
Pelosi had no business opening her mouth and saying what she did. The only thing that this prolonged contest will do is prove that Obama wants to say one thing and do another; he's already pledged to fight and push negatively back at Hillary, when his campaign is centered around "rising above" those kinds of politics. If he can't be true to the centric ideas of his campaign, what can we trust him to be true to?
Its dissapointing to here on other blogs from people who were election judges that republicans were voting for hillary solely to extend the race even longer. Looks like the Rush got his zombies out to do his biding. Yet another reason this isnt going to help democrates. I cant believe it, the republicans are going to decide both nominations. I mean what incentives do republicans have to go to the ballot other than for the sole reason of disrupting the democratic election. Lets say clintons another, becasue of republican pseudo-republican support, then do the same for barack later. I think the contests before yesterday, unfortunately for democracy, shouldn't have as much weight in minds of voters and super delegates because of this. Again, if hillary had won outright from true support I would be fine with that, and say us barack supporters need to move on to later contests, unfortunately, this probably wont be an issue and is going to have serious repercussion down the road. Again, this means instead of democrats deciding our party's nominee we having the republicans decide their race and our. Go Figure huh?
Wag the dog.
We must direct attention away from the Rezco trial and the Canadian Consulate.
Do NOT count Florida and Michigan votes! If the citizens of these states wanted their votes to count they should have pressed their state's party chairs to not move up their primaries and null their votes!
Rules are rules and BOTH states knew what the results of their actions would be, but they decided to move up their primaries anyway, and now that they are being punished for it they want things to be differently. They knew going into it that moving up the primary would cost them and they chose to do it, so now they have to live with their choices.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH
O-B-A-M-A
THE CRY BABY
"I lost" because the press was critical of me.
Welcome to the real world CRY BABY
I have a suggestion about the pledged delegates of Michigan and Florida. the 2025 pledged delegates include Michigan and Florida states. Since those two states violates the DNC rules, the pledged delegates should NOT be counted and therefore the winning magic number should be 2025 subtracting the michigan pledged delegates and Florida pledged delegates. That should come to about 1659 (I think). And to be fair, we will still seat Michigan and Florida delegates in the convention with half of each states delegates to each candidates. So, Michigan and Florida voters are given the voice but the states outcomes will not affect the nomination. I think that would be quite fair.
My heart is joyful after Hillary's win. I am life long democrat and I will NEVER vote for OBAMA.
If he wins the nomination, I and my friends will not vote in the NOV election. I may even start a group and ask them to promise not to vote for OBAMA.
Pelosi is right. ... It's funny that she was OK and now that she stated her view all has changed. I am sorry that people are so vicious and will not let others make their point. All these grown ups are acting like children.
Florida's vote should count. All three candidates names were on that ballot. If not I would urge Florida to boycott the NOV vote.
Michigan's vote should also count. One man One vote. A vote in this America should never go uncounted. That is suppose to be the American way.
A long time ago there was a Dam, called "Ladie's Secret". Ask any Breeder of Horses. Same goes for Human's. When she's Hot, She is "Hot to the Trot"..... It's all in the Breeding!!!
This Ladies Secret is, she ain't used the Whip. Yet!! She's Coasting.....
"...I think that our candidates both have the capacity to inspire..."
- Pelosi's original quote
"I think Obama has the capacity to inspire and unite while Hillary has the capacity to win over voters thru propaganda and false accusations, low hitting blows, siding with John McCain, and claiming she is more experienced to answer the call at 3am when she's never even had to deal with that call yet".
- Fixed!!!!!
if you are making your decision based on A COMMERCIAL.. you're a fool and should have your voting rights revoked.
know the issues, fools.
enough about Michigan and Florida. How can anyone think it would be fair to count states that one candidate was not even on the ballot? Also why would a fair minded person even ask their party to do so? Oh I forgot her last name is Clinton!!
Nebraksa
Come oooonnnn....
What is so difficult for the dems to swallow about a Clinton/Obama ticket. Edwards was my first choice, but if I can't get a machine fighting dreamer, then I will settle for a fighter for the dem machine and a dreamer.
Hillary cleans up house for 8 years as the scarred up political pitbull that she is, and Obama grows out of his puppy phase and runs the new economy/America for the next 8. That is 16 years to get this country back on track and in the black. C'mon folks!!!! let's do it!!!
At 70, I have been a lifelong Democrat. I strongly supported Obama, made my first financial contribution to a campaign, and have not worked on a campaign since that of Robert Kennedy.
You raised the issue of national security. I prefer Obama on that issue, but if I have to choose between you and McCain, I will vote for McCain. Also, I want an ethical candidate – and the CLINTONS sure do not qualify in that regard. So, win the Democratic nomination and watch the votes for McCain...including mine.
To Manuel Tx,
Orale Vato! You are right on – Democrats cannot afford to slight the great people from Florida and Michigan.
To be real fair:
Revote the same way Florida and Michigan did it last time!
NO campaigning, no commericials, no money spent – just a Pure informed educated or biased vote from the citizens.
There is NO WAY Hillary can win on pledged delegates alone. In order for that to happen, she would have to win EVERY State with 75% of the vote. We know she won't do that so, what is she hoping for?
The superdelegates to act on their own, and ignore the will of the people. This is just another example of how Hillary doesn't care about the people. She just wants power and she doesn't care how she gets it.
On McCain, for all the people who say he's too old: The "remaining life expectancy" for an American male who has already survived to age 71 is more than 10 years.
I don't support him, but the odds of him surviving through at least ONE presidential term are pretty good.
Just thought I'd toss that out.
Barak Obama will get most of the SUPERS waiting including President Carter.He is already in 3fig lead as of March 5th!!!
as far as DELEGATES and pop votes.Hillary did nothing yesterday to blunt this.
OBAMA-Sebelius ticket will win 2008.
GO OBAMA WE NEED REAL CHANGE.
Yes Hillary can and will win and become the President of The United States of America. If Obama wants her to quit because she won't have enough delegates, guess what he won't either. So why doesn't he quit and let someone who has experience win. Why should she quit. Obama please quit, because you will not get my vote.
HILLERY ALL THE WAY
How sad...! if was not for Hillary's husband, she will not be here. So, Is he coming after her when she is a president. To safe her.. dont get me wrong, I agree with him... not with her.
I am a woman and I have my own opinion about self made, she is not!!. Sorry, she will never win against the republic party and if she get the nomination... not only me but several will prefer to vote for McCain. She is killing the democrats!.
Since the other board was closed. Hey Obama, I don't care about Hillary's tax records, I care about mine!!! That is why I am hiring a Clinton to run the WH, not an underhanded land/NAFTA deal guy, like yourself. She really hasn't gone negative on you. She hasn't raised personal issues about you. She's questioned whether your right for the job in the WH because of your lack of experience. That is what happens to people that apply for jobs!!! Hello?!!!! I hope the Clintons unload on you like you have never seen before. You think this is tough, just wait. You won't even be able to win a re-election bid in Illinois, even if it is uncontested again. Call some of the Chicago reporters they have some questions for you.
PS All the "Hillary Supporters" that are posting as former Hillary supporters or so-called Hillary supporters that are challenging her, you are fakes just like your candidate!
Superdelegates?? Better known as Kingmakers. Our fore fathers sure goofed on that one.. Lets do away with these. After all, so many choices are being taken away from the average american. And just for the record I'm proud to be an American.
I'm proud of " MY COUNTRY" I don't need a Law degree from Harvard or Yale to know the home of the brave and the land of the free is the best place to be.
Hilliary supporters here's the issue. As a woman for Obama, I think the country would be best served to find a bonified woman candidate who is senator/governor/congresswoman on her own merits-rather than someone who used her influence as first lady to become a NY (not even in her own birth state of IL or AK) senator and now presidential candidate. Add the fact that she feels that this is her birthright and Barack should 'wait his turn'. Baloney.
Also, sharing a bedroom with former president does not in my view count for experience. Women do not all think alike. Nor do they all just blindly vote for a woman because she is a woman. Women who support Obama know where he stand's on women's issue, family, etc. You just have to educate yourselves.
Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton Haven't you had enough? What's next after HRC? Jeb Bush and Chelsea
We need change. And real change is in no way Obama as VP but rather president.
Obama 08'
Florida and Michigan should count – rember that
Go Hillary Go
Jill, as you believe many Obama supporters would not support Clinton should she win the nomination...there are as many Clinton supporters who would not vote for Obama should he win. This campaign has become increasingly polarized, but I believe the ONLY way either candidate can claim the confidence of the democratic base is by letting the process go forward and letting ALL the people have their say, including MI and FL. If Obama or Clinton is forced out by the Party, those base supporters will lose faith. Once the people have spoken, hopefully the voters (even those who are disappointed) get behind the peoples' choice.
Speaker Pelosi,
Just make sure it's the Democratic voters who are speaking and not cross over Republicans who have been propping up Obama. That is the point for the Superdelegates to make sure the Dem nominee is truly a Democrat, representing the Democrat voters. The #s show that is actually Hillary!
MI and FL should not count. Stick to the rules that were set and that all of you candidates agreed to. Now that Senator Clinton is behind in delegates, she wants those states to count even though she agreed with the DNC that they would not count, and not to campaign there! So, unfortunately, her lack of integrity on this fact sends out a clear message that she will do anything to win, even at the expense of the Democratic party!
Carrie PA – I've got news for you, Pennsylvania is very much for Hillary, from Governor Rendell on down. BHO has no chance. Look for a double-digit beating just like in Ohio. And btw – please go to realclear politics.com and look at the newest poll for North Carolina. Before yesterday, BHO had a huge double digit lead. Today, it is within the margin of error. Talk about a comeback! The lady has the MO!
GO OBAMA!! WE ARE ALL STILL BEHIND YOU 100%!! YOU CAME BACK AFTER NEW HAMSHIRE, YOU CAN COME BACK AFTER THIS TOO!!!!
OBAMA 08!!!!!!
Mike from Tacoma:
Dead on target; Pelosi's hatred for all things Republican causes her to say things that are stupid and inaccurate but still no doubt cause uninformed Democrats to get all a-dander.
McCain was being realistic about having a stabilizing influence (potentially), NOT suggesting we be at war for 100 years. Good grief. Are you people that believe Pelosi the same ones that always talk about how "we don't hurl mud; we're Democrats! We let Republicans do that!". Try actually understanding what's actually being expressed (and realistically) vs. embracing hysterical conjecture that's put out purely to get you all riled up.
How do you call yourself Democratic Nominee without winning CA,NY,NJ,MA,Ohio,FL,Michican,NM,Tennessee,TX????
Call Obama for VP. Thats smart, makes sense.
GO Hillary – Obama 08 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
“There are still many voters unheard from yet, and I think that our candidates both have the capacity to inspire, to bring out a big vote that will hold us in good stead in November, and I think that now is not the time for anybody to weigh in."
To be honest, I agree. I think they should continue it and let EVERYBODY has a say. Hmmmmm, I gotta say, I think I said something like this yesterday. Interesting.........but I gotta say, let EVERYBODY say something before anything happens. As for the Super Delegates, I trust them, I actually had an opinion about it and I won't back down with it. Hey, is not my decision is theirs.....
Obama still leading in delegates, so what's the panic for?? Texas is very close race everybody knows that.... My disappointment is how Obama campaigns allow Hillary to get away with negative and inaccurate ads--what a shame?
I will sureLY vote for McCain if she becomes the norminee...
My hats off to Mrs. Clinton on the so call "win" last night in Ohio and Texas. However, she still laging behind Obama on delagates. I was surprised to see a State like Ohio, almost 99% Union, voted for Clinton. While she was a member of the Board at Walmart, they refused to allow Unions. Im surprised that so many Hispanics still voted for Clinton, in Texas, even after blaming the Hispanic illegal immigration on taking jobs away from African Ameircans. This economy has taken away jobs from everyone. Blame it on Bush. Also in Florida, most of the Hispanics are Cuban, and it was Bill Clinton that signed the wet foot dry foot policy and still Cuban Voters voted for Clinton..yes it was Bill but as Hilary states, I supported my husband during his administration. Wake up America.
I love the way Obama and Hillary haters bash each other out here, you are some hateful people just like your party!!
As an Obama support, I think I have something fair to say after last night:
1. He is inexperienced. politically inexperienced. He and his campagne defintiely underestimated Hillary and overestimated public. He is in lead, He did not want to go negatively toe to toe with Hillary while hoping publics would not buy Hillary's dirty play. He was wrong, It is political arena, Jungle law rules!
2. I don't think Obama and his campagne don;t have enough inteligence to bring on some issues he did this morning, such as where her experience comes from and her tax return,. they just think it was not necessary to do so, expecially when you are facing a woman. He was wrong again. It is not a regular woman, it is HRC who would do whatever she could to fulfill her ambition. The way she handled Bill's scandal proved how ambitious persoanlly she is.
3. She is smart and she has gift in acting. No one questions her inteligence even anti-Hillary. Obama might think she is over and desparate. He iwas wrong again , again. She definitely is a fighter, a street fightter, Give her credit for this , though I don' t enjoy it.
4. Hillary and Bill are sheer political machine., powerful machine. But , Obama, if you realy want to do someting for this country, it is the best challenge which you have to come over, otherwise, "Yes we can" is just a hope.
Obama has a long way to go and expect some drama in next few weeks.
Bob G.
Name one accomplishment of Condi Rice in the last 7 years.....
neither can I, so GO AWAY
Ok, CNN, guess the last message was too long, ha ha!
Anyway, with all due respect, Lady Speaker, this is not good for the party. The truly experienced leaders in Washington, D.C. need to take charge and look out for those of us who have elected them. That's what we pay them for. The people of America need to let the candidates and the Superdelegates know that "WE" will pick the next president of the United States. Our next president needs to be sent a clear message, "business as usual" is over. The people of American will be giving the orders. "We the People" are the backbone of this nation, let's not forget that.
Obama/Clinton was only a dream until she injected the process with venom. She now needs to be extracted from the process.
Hillary is winning all the big states with the exception of Obama's own, Illinois. You can not be elected with a record of no big states and most of your wins being the Red Republican states. The Delegates will have to look upon this as weak and a good sign that they could be defeated in November. Many Republicans voted for Obama to block Hillary because they knew Republicans could defeat him. If you don't believe this, do as I have done, talk to people in the upper northern states. i have friends in some of those states that work for big corporations who have said that is what they talk about at work. The Democrats are not going to chance losing another election , the delegates will in the end get behind Hillary. And for the record, I could care less how the Clintons have made their money, they have plenty of it, this we know. No one has a right to overlook someone else's tax information. This is still America, Mr. Obama.
Brian Schneider,
I'm an Obama supporter, but your posting is disgusting.
I think that the longer that the Democrats carry this out the more deeply divided the party will become. The key will be those supporters of the losing candidate throwing their support behind the nominee. The candidates have waged a heated battle that has carried down through the ranks of the respective campaigns. The one thing Clinton can hope for through the end of this primary cycle is that she is able to Pennsylvania by around 55% throw in maybe Indiana and West Virginia and go to the convention with most of the big states and from their try to get the superdelegate backing. with Obama's win in Vermont, his likely victories in the Wyoming caucus (he typically does well in the caucus format) and Mississippi (large African-American population) he has built a substantial lead in the pledged delegates linked to primary and caucuses. HIs hope would then be that the Democratic Party remain true to a democratic principle and select the person who the majority of the people have voted for.
GO !!!!!!!!!!!! HILLARY !!!!!!!!!!!! AMERICAN GRIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This campaign season represents a fight between a new generation of voters and the aging generation. That is why you see a lot of comments referring to Obama's need for "training" etc. Unfortunately for the older crowd, Obama will win the nomination and take the presidency from their cold, rigor mortis, hands. Obama 08!
And that presidential nominee will either be Hillary Clinton or the Democrats will have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in November. Give it up Barack. The party's over. You made history. Leave it at that. Don't extend the Bush years.
Is this part of Pelosi's 100 day plan?
To seat Michigan and Florida, spit the delegates down the middle. Both states screwed up by defying the DNC and holding their primary when they were told not to move them up.
Hillary only wants to seat the delegates because she won (interestingly her name was on the Michigan ballot without Obama – hard to lose that way!). Would she be demanding their seating if Obama won? I think not. It is not about fairness to Florida and Michigan for her...it is about her wanting to win!
Hey, idiots! You don't bow out when your winning! It is virtually impossible for her to overtake him in the delegate count, even if she can scare all of the racist Dems into voting for her like she did yesterday.
Obama has won 26 races and has just won the caucuses in Texas. Why should he step down ? Hillay has run a pitiful campaign.
not fair at all to count those delegates. Obama did not campaign in those states. he stood by his word that he would not. both states were penalized and both states agreed.
all the canidates agreed to stay out. Obama did not campaign at all wether it be in person or tv ads or etc. yet HRC had the nerve to step foot in florida on the day of there voting.
yeah, experienced alright! experienced on how to use dirty politics. period. she walks around as this nomination is owed to her. this nomination belongs to the people.
that's what Obama wants to represent: "We The People" not, Me Hillary
Hillary has nothing to hide. Obama is actually the one that has so much to hide.
Go Madam President.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08
STOP THE (OBAMA)NATION OF AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!
Folks...
Hillary is just more of the same. We have more than a trillion dollars lost in Iraq, we are on the edge of a recession...and we don't need another 'politician' doing more of the same back slapping and secret handshakes.
The sad thing is none of you had the guts to vote for someone like Ron Paul...who would have really cleaned up government and gutted a lot of bureaucracy. Ok...fair enough...so ask yourself...truly...which of the remaining three (Hillary, Obama or McCain) would offer a true change.
Obama is the only one.
I prefer Obama to clinton but I don't see how he can stop her now. Americans are very afraid and would only vote for the person who tells them that the terrorist are coming to their homes at 3am.
This Republican switched parties to prolong the Democrats agony...the bitter fight coming and bad blood between Obama & Hillary. We soon should see all the dirty laundry hanging out for both Dems. I love it!
Shane you better take your shoes off and count because neither will have enough pledge delegates and they will not only have to have Superdelegates but Florida and Michigan will have to be dealt with to they have no choice .And guess what thats Clinton Country .You are the one that needs a reality check .
People got to realize that the Hilary victories in TX n OH could be because she got Republican voting 4 her-a shameful political tactic
So now the republicans are sending messages to their party to vote for Clinton! WHY? Because they want MCain to run against her! So don't give up Obama supporters, now we have to get out more votes. Spread the word... We need you....
OBAMA 08
They are insane to let her continue down the path she has begun. She has basically put herself on the side of the Republicans and caused such division in the DNC. She is a train wreck waiting to happen!
What a joke this is from Pelosi. We didn't hear her asking supers to stay out while hillary had most of them, but now that Obama is ready to even it up with his 50 additional supers all of the sudden she wants silence? Get over yourself lady, your personal preferences are showing.
This insignifcant bump of 30 delegates or so does nothing for hillary. Obama still has a commanding lead in pledged delegates of 130. It's not possible for her to catch him. She should withdraw now before she causes any more damage within the party.
if Obama had more pledged delegates, and Clinton got the nomination, then, I may think about voting for McCain...
If Hillary and the superdelegates steal this election, there NEEDS to be a Obama write in vote (or independent run
) to let the party officials know that they need to reform the system so that the people's choice counts.
It's not like we'd be handing the race to the republicans. If it was even close then I would pick the lesser of two evils, but polls show us that there's no chance that Hillary "Mini-McCain" Clinton can beat John "Grandpa Experiance" McCain in the general election anyway.
(If Clinton does manage to win the elected delegates, and not STEAL with the superdelegates then I suppose I'd support her, but there's a fat chance of that at this point)
I was just wondering, if Hillary receives the Democratic nomination and many of us leave the party over it, can Obama then run as an Independent and retain voters who back him?
Facts:
Hillary finally won something..go Hillary..woo hoo...the little first lady that could.
Obama severely limited what were supposed to be huge victories in both Texas and Ohio. 3 weeks ago he was over 23 points down in OH and 15 down in TX.
Obama still has almost 150 (give or take with TX caucus still coming in) more pledged delegates..i.e. actually won thru voting
3 weeks ago it was a widely held view she had to win both OH and TX by huge margins to continue. Obama will have more delegates from Texas. Enough to essentially negate her Ohio and some of her RI wins. By the standard of then (which keeps moving to keep her in it) she's done!
Obama is gaining in super delegates. Among the one's that have pledged support, Hillary leads by about 35-40. She did have a lead of over 150 back in January.
Opinion:
where is the big win for Hillary..she failed to do what she needed to do last night?!? The only way she can win now is by corruption...which the Clintons are highly capable of...I wouldn't doubt if they pulled some slick stuff last night.
Once he retains his current lead thru April..more will go his way. Don't forget: NC has 118 delegates, Puerto Rico 50 or so...that will cancel out PA. PA will be closer than you think...he may even win.
Where is her experience...foriegn policy, national security, or any other for that matter???
When the phone rings at 3am, do you want someone who's going to compain that they always get called first and is irritated that Slick Willy didn't offer her his pillow when he snuck out in the middle of the night?
The talking heads on TV are saying that Hillary and Barack are the dream ticket and that Democrats will support either of them. Not Me! Hillary Clinton is ruthless and she will destroy her opponents and the Democratic Party in order to get what she wants. I am a lifelong Democrat but I will never vote for another Clinton again. Instead of the politics of fear and personal destruction I choose Barack Obama and hope! She will set the Democratic party back 50 years if she gets her way. It isn't Hillary that's creating all the excitement and bringing out new voters, it's Barack Obama!
I will never vote for Hillary if she becomes the nominee; her canddidancy raises so many doubts. she accuses Obama of being a muslim, accuses him of being against the Jews, lied about NAFTA and flip flops on different issues. Failed to release her tax returns, Obama campaign also failed to raise the campaign fraud issue, Hillary vs Paul.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for a liar and fraudster.
Obama supporters will NEVER SUPPORT THE SHE-WITCH. She can't win with the 48% knuckle-dragging Neanderthals who support her slime tactics. Her only hope to return to the Whaite house it to pick up any tidbitts (cigars, blue dress) Bill may have left behind.
IF SHE STEALS THE NOMINATION....A VOTER BLACKOUT....WILL GUARANTEE A REAL CANDIDATE IN 2012. REMEMBER AL GORE!
Make history first woman president
men of all races were allowed to vote before women
Hillary 08
half of you Hilliary supporters said yesterday she was desperate now you are saying he's desperate. I can't wait for you all to see what she is really like, then we will see who is the liar and filled with empty promises. OBAMA SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT NOT A HAS BEEN. OBAMA 08
OBAMA 08
OBAMA 08
OBAMA 08
OBAMA 08
OBAMA 08 NOW WHAT!
Please Nancy Pelosi, please step in and request your two nominees to base their campaign on trust, integrity, honesty, gracefulness and stop the bickering, the dirty tricks, the negative adds, misrepresentation of the truth and stop attacking each other. How will the negative adds, the accusations help in the process of the correct candidate being selected, when the Republicans can and may use the same information each candidate said about the other. Based on what is portrayed it appears that the Democrats do not want to win this election, why fight against each other,is it because one wants to win at the cost of the other, but then can lose to the Republicans based on what your Senators said during the debates, the ads, the internet and in the press.
I am not residing in the USA, but is residing in another North American country, but was born and raised in a Third world country - what is being displayed about your two Senators to the world does is a bad example - for Americans normally travels overseas when there are elections as observers - is the same process in place for Third World countries to send observers - this would have been great for the Third World countries observers to view the process that took place in Texas.
My ardent request and prayer is for Nancy Pelosi to speak to her two Senators to demonstrate themselves as aspiring leaders.
GOD WILL BE HILLARY"S JUDGE, LET US PRAY.
If the ticket was meant to be let them have cake. Until that time come let them race....
Why can't people understand that seating the delegates now form the Michigan and Florida primaries is ludicrous?
Clinton won barely over 50% in Michigan and she was only running against herself – no other major candidate was on the ballot. Others were on the ballot in Florida but they weren't allowed to campaign – Clinton is th only name people knew (she also just so happened to be at 'events' in Florida at the time). Seating these delegates at this time is not a win for democracy but rather a move towards autocracy.
What a crazy spoiled brat mentality for anyone to say if you don't do it my way I'll vote for spite instead of what is best for the Country! You need a time out, and don't come back to the blogs, till you're old enough to vote! p.s. if you actually aren't a kid who skipped school today........go to drphil.com and express your thoughts on his blog!!
Obama will not be competing for Democratic votes in November. Use your brain... he will however have a stronger cut into the Republican and Independent base than Clinton.
Way to deflate your own argument, I suppose.
Florida and Michigan voters have to be heard. Dems need to vote again. This is so obvious. And remember, the two states will go to clinton heavily.
I was quite aware that most of you Hillary supporters were language challanged; I did not know you had no arithmetic skills. Read my lips you empty barrels, it is mathematically impossible for her.
Hillary supporter's keep in mind, she is still behind in the delegate count!!!!ARE WE FORGETTING THAT. All the Clinton's negatively will soon he revealed. Obama will be our nominee and you will bite your words!!! She can not win the General Election, why do you think the Republicans are strategizing to vote for Hillary. They know they will rip into her if she is the nominee. She will make a great VICE PRESIDENT!!!
OBAMA 08 27 wins to Hillary's 14 (obama is leading in Wisconcin and will definitely win Mississippi)
Superdelegates are free to do whatever they want to do. How can we say the primary has ended. I think the fight has just began and people are re-examining Obama and his higher than thou attitude. I am glad Hillary made him come down to earth and tell him to do a job just like everyone else. Obama is no longer safeguarded from the public, hence he is starting to show he is just like any other politicians.
hillary needs obama's magic stick! and he's magic wand will shut her big mouth up!
It feels like obama has been pulling some kind of Jedi mind trick on every body. He's black-BIG DEAL! Thats no reason to vote for someone. Its disgusting how people are putting him up on this pedestal.. He is SO NOT ready. If he does make it into office, he will never be able to live up to what he has built himself up to. Just wait..he'll probably try to overachieve...and fail.
Hey "B.O." – you stink! Aren't your fifteen minutes up yet????!!!.
Why does Florida always seem to be the problem state with our presidential elections?
Why spend the extra dollars to re-vote when we have people in our country that are homeless, no money for medicines that they need to keep them living and what about gas prices....
Make the vote count! Can someone tell me where it's documented anywhere in prior elections that this can happen? If not, then we need a serious overhaul in our election process.
count all votes in Michigan and Florida,or else i will definitely vote Republican ,not democrat
Hillary is our best bet. Obama doenst have a clue.
Of course Clinton can catch Obama mathematically. What can't happen without huge wins for one candidate in all the remaining states is for one of them to definitively clinch the nomination before the convention.
And all this talk about the so-called popular vote? How can we do this on percentage of votes in each state. The only way to know who the majority of people want to be the Democrat candidate is to look at the actual numbers involved. For example, 1 million votes might win you a smaller state, but you would be defeated by a landslide in a big state. You have to look at the actual numbers.
The other thing is, many states are unlikely to make a difference in November as they will vote Republican, so it's the Democrat and swing states that carry more weight. The issue isn't as simple as people seem to want it to be, and it's not as clear cut as many people seem to believe it is.
I love the way until today, there was so much talk from Obama's supporters about momentum, and now that's been stopped, and possibly swung to Clinton, they've completely dropped the issue.
Hillary is a big liar, sheer loser–Rush Limbaugh asked Republicans to cross over and vote for her-that alone raises doubt about candidancy- cannot be trusted. Get out of the race, you can't make it...
I am not a democrat or republican. I am a conservative that at one point in history would have meant republican. I think I represent a large demographic. I do not care for McCain as I see him as too much like Bush which is what has driven me from the party. If the dems nominate clinton I will vote for McCain as another president clinton is my worst nightmare. If Obama is nominated I will consider voting for him unless Ron Paul runs independent. Either way I would not vote for McCain if you nominate Obama. IMO your best bet to beat McCain is to nominate Obama. I think thier are some political analysts who disagree with my opinion but I felt compelled to give it anyway.
To all the non believers, I am here to tell you that Obama will win in '08. So long they were kept down, but now they are once again singing "SWING LOW, SWEET CHARIOT." A good thing can and will never be stopped. I agree with all who say that the democracy in this country will change. Watch and see that if Hillary gets the nomination, many will not let her win the White House. To the Annoymus writer who seems afraid to state their identity, the first Clinton brought scandal and shame on the WHITE HOUSE, and the second Clinton will do the same. Check the records before you give all your support to Hillary. Many of you are scared because Obama is a black man that carries no baggage. The WHITE HOUSE, is where he needs to be, maybe it can stay white and not TARNISHED as it has been for the past fifteen plus years. YES WE CAN, AND WE WILL.......................... OBAMA '08 ALL THE WAY.
Obama is ahead in both popular vote and delegates...why again should he bow out or take a post as the VP? Especially considering Hillary will have to win ALL the remaining elections by 60/40 margins or better just to have a shot at catching Obama by the end....prolonging this is stupid.
I'm wondering if anyone has looked at the superdelegates closely enough to answer me this question: If superdelegates all voted the way their states voted, who would benefit?
to the realist – the only reason this "pitiful" congress can't get anything sone, is because the Bush admin will NOT compromise on ANYTHING.
Hilliary supporters explain this to me. How and why does Hilliary bash Barack (and you applaud this) and then in next breath suggest that the person you bashed be your VP. Hmmm...
Here is my thought. Should she be the nominee, HRC knows she will loose against McCain. Obama has broadened the democratic base. She has not. She need him. He doesn't need her.
Obama will be nominee...or it will be third loss in a row for dems.
Obama 08'
The Republicans are LOVING every minute of this.
Since it has now been guaranteed that the ONLY way Clinton can win the nomination is by convincing the Superdelegates to overturn the will of the people, OR, even worse, by changing the rules and counting the "votes" from Florida and Michigan even though Clinton was the only one who campaigned there, the Republicans might possibly get their wish.
If the above-mentioned scenario were to come true, the Democratic party will no doubt be decimated. All the great advantages the Democrats have been enjoying up until now would dissappear in a heartbeat and McCain would be sitting right there to welcome all those disenfranchised voters.
Hillary won Florida all names were on the ballot their!!!
remember Obama's ran tv ads their Hillary did not nor Edwards but still Hillary won . people in Fl. voted and their voted for Hillary. like it or not. GO HILLARY
Hillary for President, Obama for VP. Obama needs to get up to speed & this way the Dems could realistically keep the White House for 16 years.
OBAMA'S CAMP IS NOW FOCUSING ON HILLARY'S TAX RETURN INSTEAD OF THE ISSUES LIKE NAFTA AND HIS NAFTA-CANADIAN
DENIAL THAN EXPOSURE BY THE CANADAINS.
NAFTA – GATE AT IT IS NOW BEING CALLED HAS BEEN DOUBLE -SPEAK FIASCO FOR OBAMA'S RHETORIC AND SPEAKE FOR ITSELF IN TERMS OF INTEGRITY, HONESTY AND TRUTH IN
SPEAKING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS NAFTA-CANADIAN
EXPOSE WILL BE SURELY EXPLOITED BY THE REPUBLICANS
IN EXCRUCIATING AND ENDLESS ATTACKS AGAINST OBAMA IN THE UNLIKELY (NOW) POSSIBILITY OF HIS NOMIATION.. ANOTHER
ALBATROSS ON OBAMA'S NECK WILL BE THE REZKO CASE WHICH IS WILL BE UNFOLDING IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.
Have a real contest in Florida and Michigan or I will vote Republican!
Everyone's vote should be counted not just Hillary's.
I'm so sick of Hillary's people getting on Obama about his sharpening attacks when it was her that started this. I'm worried that the party will become so separate that McCain will win in November. The Clinton's don't care about that! Its all about the power and it will someday be their downfall, mark my words.
Looks like CNN & MSNBC got their wish – 7 more weeks of must see "he said/she said".
Meanwhile, the ceiling for both candidates in the general election is slowly eroding. I'm a Republican who would vote for Obama, but not if many more incidents like the NAFTA memo with Canada pop up.
How hard can it be to release your tax return?
Like everyone i know i keep a copy every year i file.
Does Clinton not have access to a photocopy machine?
Does she not have and extensive staff to make here a copy to give to CNN?
OR
Does she have something to hide that would strongly impact
on her ability to gather support?
I think the votes from Florida and Michigan should be taken into consideration. I am sure if Obama had won these states he would want them added in if he found he was losing. Its not fair to Hillary to have so many delegates taken from her. There is no way Obama should win the nomination if he does not get the 2024 delegates that are needed to win. It's only fair that these delegates are recognized or the primaries would be redone. Hillary should not step done without these delegates being counted in and if and when that's done and Obama still does not reach 2024 then it should be called by the superdelegates. I hope they will be able to see that Hillary can win the big states for them which will be needed to win in November. If Obama is selected then you can say goodbye to the presidency as McCain will definitely win.
Obama is like a spoilt child. He is so arrogant that he honestly thought that he was going to win all the states last night but Hillary did put him in his place. I hope the causases in Texas do not let him win there and the delegates go to Hillary.
Go Hillary go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you and we will keep on winning.
OBAMA IS STILL THE FRONT RUNNER, PEOPLE!! If anyone should bow out it should be the loser.
It's no wonder the Dems haven't one an election in 8 years, the leaders are clueless–this madness must stop!!
It's hilarious how Clinton keeps talking about all this "experience." What is she talking about exactly, she couldn't even give a straight answer on CNN this morning. A few first lady photo ops does not mean you are a seasoned foreign policy expert. Obama needs to go on the attack. When you are you dealing with the bottom of the barrel you need to get all the scum out to clean the barrel. As for Clinton, she can't even keep her husband in line how is she going to keep a country in line.
Wow! What a big surprise from HILLARY! No..she did not surprise anynone. This morning I watched Karl Rove of FOX news TV mentioned about the big number of republicans who crossed over and voted for her. That's why I hate 'POLITICS"!
I was hopping to vote for a democrat this year, but I have now a second thought on the Democratic Party system. Watch out with the "Dirty CLINTON Machine"!
No..wait! YES WE CAN....
GO OBAMA!!
What a load of bull. Maybe they will nominate Micky Mouse again this cycle.
I see Hillary wading in confetti and balloons giving a victory speech, yet today I study the statistics to see a net gain so far of 18 delegates (go to Election Results on CNN). Obama is winning the Texas caucus and delegates are not in yet. I realize all delegates are not in yet for Ohio and Rhode Island but again, the net gain is very minimal at best. Can someone explain how this is a HUGE VICTORY for Hillary? It seems to me like she has just lost the race. How can she ever catch up now? With 370 delegates at stake I though she would gain at least 50-100 delegates. What happened? I don't understand. Thx.
"Yes we can!" Is anyone else worried that Obama borrowed his campaign slogan from Bob the Builder?
Interesting analysis on Fox news (title After All Said and Done, Clinton, Obama Running Virtual Dead Heat) shows that Obama leads popular vote even if Florida and Michigan are included...Not by much, but pretty impressive for not even having his name on the ballot in one state...
Total Votes Counted (including Michigan and Florida)
Obama: 13,889,742
Clinton: 13,886,387
Total Votes Counted (including Florida, but NOT Michigan)
Obama: 13,889,742
Clinton: 13,558,078
Total Votes Counted (NOT including Michigan or Florida)
Obama: 13,313,528
Clinton: 12,687,092
From Carol Costello
CNN
CLEVELAND, Ohio (CNN) - With the Democratic race extremely tight, the party's superdelegates - the 800 or so unpledged elected officials and party members - are facing growing racial pressure, and even threats, to back Sen. Barack Obama.
[From the Politico]
Amazing as it is in this day and age, black super-delegates are being subject to threats, intimidation and “Uncle Tom” smears to get them to vote along racial lines, politico reports. And the pressure is coming from other black politicians and groups supporting Barrack Obama.
Obama 1,321
Clinton 1,186
As far as a "dream Ticket" goes, ask Hillary if she would take the Vice Presidency because she has no hope of overtaking Obama.
BARAK OBAMA is the BEST.
WE NEED CHANGE from Bush-Clinton-Bush. NO CLINTON.
"I applaud HILLARY for being the first to suggest it. It shows the ability to put the good of the country before personal ego, it demonstrates quality leadership, shows an ability to be a uniter.
Obama, who claimed himself an able uniter, now looks petulant and unwilling to unite his own party."
Why are you applauding her for asking for a joint ticket with herself as president when she has almost 0 mathematical chance of finishing with more delegates? What about that is commendable...
People, you should know that this is over. Mathematically Obama is winning. Hillary is killing the Democratic Party. Its about time that she bowed out. First of all she will loose in comming contests, plus Obama is ahead with more than 100 delegates. Most of the states remaining favor Obama.
For the cry babies in here for Clinton. Keep crying and yelling . Believe it or not Obama is/will be the democratic nominee.
OBAMA 08
I couldn't disagree more. This mud-slinging and dirty fighting is NOT "good for the Party". And as far as having a nominee before the convention – how does Pelosi think that will happen? Obvisously, she either hasn't looked at the delegate count, or didn't take math in school.
Why not, Corey? There are 13 states still to vote, if Obama can win 12 straight – certaintly Hillary can win 13 straight!!! Hillary is the only Dem with the "balls" to run our country effectively and get us out of the hole Bush has dug us into.
What's all this talk about ending the process early, let the people of EVERY state be heard and place their votes! I am a native Californian and now live in Texas and I voted for Hillary yesterday AND caused for her too!
I hope it does make it to the super delegates, because to many voters aren't educated enough to make the educated vote for Hillary and the super delegates will vote according to whats best for our country and not what's popular.
Delegates from Florida and Michigan should not count unless... the same rules that have governed the other contests are applied.... 1) both candidates names are on the ballot, 2) both candidates have significant time to campaign in the state, and 3) every voter is made aware that their votes will count this time. *Otherwise, those people who did not vote because they were informed that their votes would not count and voters that did not see their candidate's name on the ballot (in Michigan) would be disenfranchised....period!!
But look for the win at all costs Clintons to try to bend the rules...
Play by the rules. Florida and Michigan blew it and they do not count. Nobody campaigned there and Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Obama cannot be caught up with now. Hillary is a slighty smarter female version of George Bush. I'd trust her about as much as I would someone trying to sell me a sub-prime mortgage. Hillary is desperate and cannot keep moving the goal posts.
Clinton's stroking of the Farrakhan card was a brilliant move that goes to show how low she is willing to go to get what she thinks is "hers." What is comes down to is a choice between "Yes WE can" or "Yes SHE can" call me crazy but I would like to think democracy is more about the WE than the individual.
This race would have been over by Now, if it had been anyone running against Obama, but the spouse of a past cheating President. Let us face this as a fact, given that Hillary has no chance of overcoming the delegate count that Obama has gained!
@ yomomma what do you mean that Obama doesnt have a clue? and Mr. Mann. Go vote Republican. Obama will win the Presidency and all you cry babies will cry for 8 years.
Florida and Michigan stand up and have your voices counted!
Protest actively to make the DNC rectify this error. Force your state officials to defend your right to vote and participate in the convention like the other 48 states.
If Florida and Michigan or any other state is not seated at the convention it will be a flagrant and outrageous violation of states rights and their respective residents.
Who is running your state? You or the DNC?
All these questions of Rezko have already been answered. The Obama campaign returned $150,000 donated by him ... as mush as the Clinton campaign returned $850,000 of Norman Hsu's, the Democratic fundraiser indicted last year on charges of fraud and violating various campaign finance laws that contributed to Clinton’s campaign. Tell me , what’s the difference?
Its not over people. Hillary not only stopped Obama and his momentum, but won more than 50 % on all 3 states. Obama may have more pledged delegates, but it is not over till one reaches the magic number, so please stop wishing for something that is not democratic by declaring a winner and let the rest of the states that are yet to vote to have their say. She did win big cause the momentum was in Obama's favor prior to March 4th and he outspend Hillary and still lost, in my book that is winning big so HUH!
Go Hillary
Go Hillary
Hillary 08
For Bob G. – McCain and Rice? Give me a break dude! Didn't you mean Grandpa McCoy and Olive Oyl?
I think it would be quite interested to know the source of Hillary's income...loaning $5million to her own campaign...that's a lot of dough to have just laying around! It shouldn't take until April 15 to get that information toegher...give us a break! Let's see what you've got Hillary!
I have a hard time explaining to my students how someone can break basic rules and still get rewarded. Those who voted in FL and Michigan must lack basic respect for rules. The Republicans will use these two incidents against the Dems in the general election; mark my word!!!
I THINK HILLARY NEED TO BOW OUT AND SPEND MORE TIME WITH HER HUSBAND. HOW CAN SHE RUN A COUNTRY AND SEE WHAT BILL IS UP TO. SHE STILL HAS A HUSBAND TO TAKE CARE OF AND THE PRESIDENCY WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF HER TIME.WE ALL KNOW HE CAN GET BORED.
Let's count Florida and Michigan, that makes things simple. Those people's votes should count, and they should not be disenfranchised. Their political preference is clear, and their votes clearly put Hillary over the top. And CNN, quit your biased coverage in favor of Obama–shame on you!
Excuse me,
what most of you obamanauts don't seem to understand is,after Hillary wins Pennsylvania she still may not have more pledged delegates than Obama,but what she will have is the trust of all the superdelegates,and with that win they'll be able to justify their vote for Hillary.Do you really think the Clinton campaighn or the democratic party will not see to it that Mich. and fla. is counted for Hillary.That's wishful thinking.Denial is not just a river in Egypt.Hillary clinton is our next president period the end.
Hillary 08!!!
It is really funny to hear all those Hillary supporters that were until 13 straight wins of Obama , talking about "it is the delegates that count"
I think I agree with them... do they still agree with themselves is the question..
If Obama keeps a 100 pledged delagate lead then it is obvious who will be our next president.
And Yes i care about her tax returns as i can not understand how a senator can make 5 million dollars???
Also I have no problem with this race continuing as long as we can do without false attacks. Do democrats really want to do the work for Mccain?
Jeremy, this is to your comment:
Yes. It is time for Obama to bow out. Thank you. Stop your cult slogan "Yes, we can!".
Why would Obama "bow out" if he won 12 straight and leads in every possible way? There is not one ounce of intelligence in that statement.
It is wonderful a and extremely American of you to say what you feel, but please put some substance behind your words, if that is what you are calling Senator Obama out on.
The senator has beat Clinton in twelve separate primaries all across our nation, both in popular vote, and delegates.
I support Obama, but this contest is history in the making. For both candidates to do what they have done so far is pure brilliance. So have some respect, speak facts and not your silly fantasies, and let's have an intelligent discussion.
Obama '08