March 6, 2008
Posted: 08:00 PM ET
CNN

Watch Clinton's comments Thursday.

(CNN) Hillary Clinton repeated Thursday that delegates from Florida and Michigan be seated at the Democratic Party’s national convention this summer, and appeared to suggest she is open to the possibility of holding do-over contests in both states.

"I'm going to let the leadership of both states see what they think is the best approach," Clinton told reporters in Washington. "I think that it would be a grave disservice to the voters of Florida and Michigan to adopt any process that would disenfranchise anyone and I'm still committed to seating their delegations and I know that they're working with the Democratic party to determine how best to proceed."

Clinton's latest calls for the delegations to be seated come amid an increasingly heated back-and-forth between officials from both states and the national parties. Both the Republicans and Democrats sanctioned both states earlier this year for holding their primaries ahead of February 5 — the Democrats said Michigan and Florida's entire delegations would not be seated at the convention while the Republicans said only half of each state's delegates could be seated.

The Democrats’ decision on how to proceed with both states' delegates could have critical impact on the presidential nominating race — both Barack Obama and Clinton are locked in close contest for pledged delegates, and neither will be able to attain the needed 2,024 to clinch the nomination.

Obama's campaign has criticized Clinton for seeking to "change the rules" after Florida and Michigan voted, and said it will follow the party's leadership on the issue. Clinton came out on top of both states' meaningless contests in January. Neither candidate campaigned in the states, and Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan.

Clinton's comments come the same day Florida Sen. Bill Nelson, a supporter of the New York senator, formally wrote a letter to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, calling on him to pay for a re-vote in his state. (Read Nelson's Letter [PDF])

“With two outstanding candidates battling so closely for their party’s nomination, there’s no way you can tell nearly two million Florida voters they don’t count," he said.

Dean has said the party will not pay for do-over contests.

"[The DNC's] job now is to elect the President of the United States and we're not going to have the resources to run a primary in Michigan or Florida," Dean said on CNN's American Morning Thursday. "So we hope they can comply with the rules, but they're going to have to figure out how to pay for it."

Related: Florida Gov Charlie Crist discusses the potential of a second primary

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Florida • Hillary Clinton


John   March 6th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

You guys want the Florida and Michigan votes to count? Well then, figure out a way to runa new election there, since majority of the candidates were not even on the ticket… if it is democracy you want. Otherwise this would be just a scam to support LCinton since she was the ONLY ONE on the ticket in Florida.

CJ   March 6th, 2008 6:50 pm ET

Democrats are going bonkers. They're using Democrat tactics against each other (even though they're still blaming Rove), and the base is going nuts.

It's amazing to see the reactions when they discover the Democrats AND Republicans are equally crooked…

Case   March 6th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

Hillary needs to have the foresight to get out now.

I know she will not but she has to know she can not draw independent or disenfranchised Republican votes. These votes are critical in November. Those votes will be the difference.

Hillary = McCain and more war, and more of the same.

Independent for Obama

Manuel TX   March 6th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Ok.

Let's ignore the voters in MI and FL.

And let's make Obama the nominee.

And then let's see what the people who voted for Hillary in MI and FL do during the general.

Since Obama says that Hillary is McCain Lite, then it should be easy enough for them to vote for McCain.

Remember, in the general it's winner take all and MI and FL are swing states. Only a few votes are required to win.

I'm ready to concede the nomination to Obama and the Obama-bots, but it will be a Pyrrhic victory. They will lose the general.

:)

Miguel G   March 6th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

I agree 100% with Ken, CNN, please do a story on the "party leaders" that screwed the people of Florida and Michigan! Show their faces. List their positions and credentials. Note who voted for and who voted against (if any) moving their primaries up. The people have a right to know who caused all of this. Maybe then, people will stop blaming Dean or the DNC and put the blame squarely where it belongs!

It's always Party Leaders, party leaders, party leaders. No more ambiguous labels!

Randolph Smith - Charlotte, North Carolina   March 6th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

The Republicans want to have Hilary win because they can beat her easily. The Republicans in charge of Florida will not let a new election occur that could give Barak an advantage. Now they want to make sure to take money out of the Democrats coffers if there will be a re-do. This has everything to do with partisain politics and the political machines in Washington. If the delegates are seated as the votes are, Obama will win the rest of the primaries by landslides because it would expose the political inside machines to the people.

smb   March 6th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Of course you have to count both states. The DNC can't possibly continue the foolishness of not allowing over 5,000,000 citizens votes to be heard as opposed to 10,000 in some caucus states where "victory " was heralded. Obama who seems to do well where party activists are the only ones who have the time or patience to attend a caucus has not done well in crucial fall states and was on the Florida ballot along with John Edwards. Hillary won Florida the first time and will do so again either now and/or in the fall election.Obama did not take Florida,will not take it in a second round,and is doubtfull to carry it in a general election.

GME   March 6th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Hillary supporters:

Wonder why it is Hillary Clinton now and not Hillary Rodham Clinton?
Answer: Her brothers Tony and Hugh Rodham. Take a look at the Wikipedia articles. They received money from people in exchange for Pardons from Bill Clinton

What tax returns are people talking about releasing; it is not April 15 yet?
Answer: 2000 through 2006

What is with Obama and Rezko , go to factcheck.org. They have a very good article.

Question Hillary supporters should be asking? Who is Norman Hsu?
Answer: Wow, do a quick search and you will probably forget about Rezko, because you will have found the real thing.

Question Hillary supporters should be asking? What comprises the 8 years of experience you had as First Lady and the 6 years of experience you had as Arkansas first lady?
Answer: Well Hillary's schedule as First Lady while her husband was president won't be released until it is too late for democrats.

Question Hillary supporters should be asking: How were you an integral part of the team if you did not have a security clearance as first lady?
Question Hillary supporters should be asking: Are you voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton or Bill Clinton?
Answer: Bill Clinton

Jose'   March 6th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Must. Have. Power

At. All. Costs.

Brent   March 6th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

This is what the U.S. election process is about….Hate all the candidates you don't want. I am so sick of politics.

anna   March 6th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

CNN investigated Hillary's qualifications to answer the red phone at 3:00 a.m. . . . but, I didn't hear any such report on Obama's qualifications.

Obama told us he has the better judgement. I hope when CNN gets around to investigating his judgement, that they examine his judgement in purchasing discounted Chicago real estate (and with whose help); his judgement in answering press inquires about NAFT and the Canadians before he knew the truth; his judgement in retaining a staff member who didn't brief him about a conversation with a foreign government and his judgement about meeting his responsibillities as chair of the committee with oversight for Afghanistan.

Grif   March 6th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Yes Vanessa! If you don't mind my comment. But, was your vote negative, even if it was to you. Positive.

If somebody else win's. You can't go negative afterwards. If you lose, you lose.

Or at least you backed a loser. No winnings. Sorry.

WML   March 6th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

There should be a revote but I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary wins again and wins big. Then Obama will see that he can't win the big prizes which is important. Open your eyes: Hillary has the base voting for her and Obama has Republicans and Independents who have no intention of voting for him in Nov. Who will win then? I think he needs to realize that instead of whining that people are flocking to him. Only when he was winning because everyone loves a winner and they erroneously thought this would be over by now. There are too many superdelegates and too many states to just wipe everything away to someone who does not have a clear and decisive lead like McCain had over his competitors. Enough already.

Another thing we've been talking about is he kept himself on the ballot in FL but not MI. He lost there. Maybe Hillary had the foresight to know that this would happen and that the rule (stripping delegates was stupid). Obama could have kept his name on, too. She did nothing wrong by doing that. Maybe the whining is on the other side because they didn't win and if they are seated, or even redone, Obama may lose and then he will be the underdog.

I think the cries for Hillary to get out are absurd. The race is still close, truly. Obama simply doesn't want to fight for something he thinks he's entitled to. He wants no one to scrutinize or criticize him as we can see through how he behaves when he is and when he's the one who lost. Yeah, I want that attitude and arrogance in my president.

And, his fundraising couldn't buy him the elections in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island. I think people need to see Obama completely not just his sermon-like ways. Yes, this country could use some uplifting but we need real solutions and talk. And if he's turning negative (actually, he has already been negative), then he's going against his hope and change message. That's politics as usual, whether we like it or not, and by him doing the dance, he's no different and it takes a bite out of his slogan.

Tony   March 6th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

What about democracy? Don't we need rules and laws and should we allow to violate them if they do not favor the Clintons? The "Democratic" party has shown enough personal loyalty to the Clintons, and now the "superdelegates" disproportionally to the voters still push Hillary just based on some kind of personal loyalty to her family. The "Democratic" party should keep in mind the people are voting CHANGE in Washington and not CHANGE of their rules so that the party favors Clinton once more (this is how Bush was forced into office; don't do that or if you do it change your name).

Justin   March 6th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Come on. The reality is that unless Florida and Michigan count neither candidate can win. If this wasn't the case there would be no debate, but it is the case. This question is an issue because of the numbers, not because Hillary is desperate (sp?), a whiner, a liar, a cheat, or a vain phony . Forgetting the reality of the numbers… If it were the other way around Barack supporters wouldn't have a problem. Excluding these two states threatens the legitamacy of the democratic process and of democratic principles. In a time where America is trying to show other countries that democracy works, it would be foolish to ignore the votes and voices of the people of two major states of this union.

P.S. Even though it keeps being said that Barrack is ahead in the popular vote, it is untrue. Hillary is ahead in the popular vote. More people, based on votes, not delegates, want Hillary Clinton to be the president of this country. Why is everyone ignoring this fact?

P.P.S. CNN, I find it hard to believe that the only people that have commented on this issue are Obama supporters. This is what SNL alluded to in the unfair treatment of Hillary in the media. Does anyone remember that the so-called negative direction of Hillary's campaign was in response to negative campaign ads from the Obama camp? Why isn't the media bringing that up? Furthermore, how is asking the questions that every American should be asking themselves when choosing a president a negative campaign tactic? The Obama supporters are getting so mad that Hillary has asked these questions because deep down they know the answer.

Kyle   March 6th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

One question: Would she make this argument if she lost in each state?

kb from Iowa   March 6th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

If they do it and she wins it…say good bye to Obama's supporters. They'll be so disheartened they won't show up Nov. 3rd. Try to win the general election without them.

chris, cedar rapids, iowa   March 6th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

I'm a Republican who was going to switch parites but this issue has me sticking to my side of the road. If the Democrats can't play by their own rules what is to say that Clinton or Obama will play by the rules as President. How can any sensible person with a 6 grade education NOT see this as clearly a Clinton side step to power…whatever..and you guys speak of change? Ya right…

One thing though..when did inspiration become a bad word Hillary Clinton. Don't we appreciate when our bosses allow us to do what we are capable of..only with their inspiration to succeed to be better ourselfs! Since when did America become so dependant on Government that who becomes President is more important than what we as individuals can achieve. Obama has it right . I'd rather listen to his inspiration than Clintons "anyway I can to get the presidents office" talk. Lets move on folks…it's not about her, it's about US!

Jay   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

I would bet that after the general election, Dean is out as DNC chair. This is a train-wreck and all his doing.

Terry in Texas   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

how can we as democrats, especially in a state like Florida, where we claim that Al Gore was robbed of the White House because every vote did not count..Now we are trying to stop votes from counting. I voted for Obama, but if Florida causes him to lose so be it. We just cannot tell that many people their vote does not count….The DNC cannot have legal right to do that. It is absolutely wrong in a free society such as ours.

Nadeem   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Also, Hillary used the marketing spin of winning there. Remember her going to Forida for a victory party. Haw do you undo that.

This is a joke.

Wes   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Obama followed the rules to his party for this process. Hillary didn't.

If Obama didn't the lead as the front runner from all those primaries I bet we wouldnt' be talking so much about Florida and Michigan.

Voters should vote but give credit where its due and where its not. The Republican governor of Florida messed it up for the Democrats in Florida. Another way should be figured out. Same for Michigan.

And ALL OF THE SUDDEN they're strongly advocating the voice of the voters.

HELLOOOO WE'RE INTO MARCH ALREADY. Where was your speaking for the people voice a month ago or before that?

Paul   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

I'm a Democrat in Michigan, and I don't think our delegates deserve to be sat at the convention. Our state's democratic leadership agreed to abide by rules in scheduling, and we broke those rules, even after we were told "If you break these rules, this is what will happen." Then we act shocked that the consequences that were spelled out for us occurred. No do-overs, No seating delegates, this should be a wake-up call to the state leadership that not adhering to something they agreed to is not a way to do business, to build a cohesive political party, or to have a fair and equitable democratic system.

And for people from other states who think this will affect how voters in Michigan will make their choice, you are wrong. The people of Michigan are not stupid enough to submit themselves to four years of John McCain because they feel snubbed. Myself and every other michigan dem I know will still be voting, and still be voting dem in November.

Fake it til you make it Hillary   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

HILLARY NEW SLOGAN IS:

FAKE

IT

TO

YOU

MAKE

IT!!!!!!!

OBAMA 08

G.L.   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Does anyone hear how ridiculous it sounds to blame one person for the actions of the DNC, the MI Democratic Party, the FL Democratic Party and the FL state legislature (which is republican)?

Did it ever occur to you that the "Rules" made by the DNC were flawed from the start? …That the punishment for breaking those rules was made up by the DNC as it went along? …That the punishment doesn't fit the crime? …That disenfranchising the voting public who had no voice in the choices that all these parties made isn't an appropriate way to deal with "breaking the rules"?

The DNC is supposed to be the parent organisation here—obstensibly with its' wisest members making well thought out choices for all democrates…they blew it.

Seat the delegates, fire Howard Dean, and learn from the mistake.

Vera Shabazz   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

I have one question, will the CLINTONS PAY FOR THE DO OVER IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN!

David, Boca Raton, FL   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Ahhh, us Republicans are loving this.

Alex   March 6th, 2008 6:03 pm ET

Typical radical leftist views from Obama people. The math is very simple in the general election. NO FLORIDA+NO MICHIGAN=NO GENERAL ELECTION WIN.

Tony   March 6th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

What about democracy? Don't we need rules and laws and should we allow to violate them if they do not favour the Clintons? The "Democratic" party has shown enough personal loyalty to the Clintons, and now the "superdelegates" disproportionaly to the voters still push Hillary just based on some kind of personal loyalty to her family. The "Democratic" party should keep in mind the people are voting CHANGE in Washington and not CHANGE of their rules so that the party favours Clinton once more (this is how Bush was forced into office; don't do that or if you do it change your name).

andy   March 6th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

If Hilary had respected the rules that the DNC and ALL 50 states had agreed to, she would have respected the well-publicized restriction on awarding delegates in Florida and Michigan and not campaigned there. There should have been NO ballot for democrats in those states to avoid this ridiculous argument in the first place.

If voters have a beef about this, they need to contact the state democratic committees in Florida and Michigan and demand that they pay for a primary…the DNC has MUCH better things to do with their money than bail out the idiots who moved the primaries in the first place. To do otherwise would be identical to allowing a football player to score a touchdown because he kept running well after the whistle was blown and everyone else stopped playing.

Steen   March 6th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Change the rules: let the people vote! You cannot disenfranchise them.
Except when the convention comes and Clinton is trailing, then the superdelegates can overturn the will of those voters who voted for Obama.
They sure are tricky, dem Clintons…I give em dat much. But if I ever catch one of dem poking around in my backyard…

Kerry   March 6th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

She complains that Obama wants to "change the rules" when he suggests that superdelegates should vote the same way that their voeters voted but when it serves her she wants to "change the rules" herself.
Never thought I'd say it, but I think I would vote for McCain if she got the nomination without winning the most pledged delegates.

HD for Obama   March 6th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

A blatant attempt to steal election. Do you really want someone like this as President?

willowood   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

I have been feeling a little queasy lately with all this Florida/Michigan delegate poltergeist head spinning. Rules for the Clintons-oh, right, there are none. Rules for theDemocratic party-are there any? Rules for Obama and Edwards…they keep trying and Hillary keep's denying.

Bill   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

I can not stand you people anymore. First of all, Hillary has not lied or cheated. She has not changed her stance on either of these states from the beginning. This is being distorted all over the place by the media and bloggers.

What CLINTON has said. If she is the nominee, she would move to have Florida and Michigan seated. "if she is the nominee", not to get the nomination. She has also said that Michigna and Florida voters need to be counted because if they are not it will hurt the democratic party in the general election.

You guys buy into anything you hear and then do not pay attention to the facts. Its so easy to call this women names, so I guess thats easier than actually researching some facts.

Grow up. Yes, I am a Clinton supporter, only because people like you made me actually look into her record. She is solid, she is truthful. There is no skelton's or evil doings by the Clinton's. Also, the Obama supporters turned me off with their hateful tactics while their candidate was preaching for change.

Hillary Clinton is a honest, trustworthy women. She has dedicated her life to public service and you people should be ashamed of yoursleves.

Brian   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Clinton is a sore loser. She is losing and the right person for the job is winning. She will strong arm her way into the White house. Florida and Michigan chose to ignore the rules of the game and now Clinton wants change the rules during the game. I DON'T THINK SO!!!!

Obama will be the nominee and Clinton needs to be quiet so she can be the VP nominee.

AJ / North Carolina   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

JC above is wrong. Hillary will win – those of us is states to come are contacting all of our super delegates to vote for her. :)

Obama = Loser
McCain = Loser (thanks to Bush backing him)
Hillary = Winner

Joyce, NY   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Lots of Obama supporters in this board do not seem to read the whole story about this.

It was the republican legislature in Florida that decided to move their primaries despite opposition from the democrats. It wasn't the fault of Florida voters that it got moved! Why punish them? They are part of this country and should be counted.

The bigger picture is that Florida is a MUST win state in November. Obama should take heed and listen. Do not count the republican states in his column voting dems come GE.

Florida and Ohio are MUST win swing states – if we ever learn anything from 2000 and 2004.

So Obama and supporters, don't get so cocky. Dems need these states to win in Nov. along with Michigan. So don't tick them off!!!

Matt B   March 6th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Absolutely not fair to change the rules when you're behind! Cheaters never win!

Dean   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

A similar thing happened with the governor election in Washington State. The loser of the election kept asking for a re-count until she got ahead in the election. Then, when she got the lead after the 3rd recount she told everyone to let it go because she won. Now we are stuck with a governor who has raised more taxes and wasted more money then any governor in our history. Can't wait to get her out of office next year.

How come when someone gets behind they just want everyone to change the rules to get ahead.

Lisa   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Veronica in CA, that's only what she appears to be saying.

The delegates elected would necessarily be Clinton delegates because they got no competition because Obama was not competing, respecting the rules of OUR party. They're OUR rules.

She knows she'll get their votes. THAT's why she wants them seated.

Jay   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Voters in Michigan and Florida will be crucial to the democrats winning in November. If they are disenfranchised in the primaries, you can forget about them showing up in November.

willard   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

Rules are rules and if you can't follow them there are always consequences. It would be unfair to Obama and his campaign when he played by the rules and as always the Clinton's want to make the rules up as they go along if it is in their interest only.

Annamica, OH   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

I can't believe the number of people here who would like to have FL and MI disinfranchised. Is it fear if there is a re-vote Sen. Obama would lose again?

Fil Romero   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

It's interesting to me that many people seem to be asking when will Hillary Clinton quit campaigning for the nomination and allow Barack Obama to win. Why does she have to quit? How come nobody is asking when will he quit and allow her to win? This is a race, a competition rather. Although he is ahead in pledged delgates Senator Obama isn't even close to securing the neccessary delegates to win. The Obama campaign and his supporters seems to feel like they're now entitled to the nomination. It's troubling to think the Obama campaign and it's supporters will feel "disenfranchised" if he doesn't win the nomination. What about the almost equal number of people who have voted for Senator Clinton? Why shouldn't they feel the same way. Is it because the vast majority of Obama supporters are black Americans who might "raise cain" if he doesn't win? Are we afraid of what they might do? Again, this is a competition that has proven to be very competetive so we have to continue on until someone actually wins. Let's also remember that superdelegates are allowed to use independent judgement when voting for a candidate. If this were a literal foot-race, and two people were neck and neck, we wouldn't expect one to just quit so the other could win. Obama and his supporters act like he's a handful of delegates away from the nomination and Hillary is just preventing him from crossing the finish line. GIVE ME A BREAK!

Jim   March 6th, 2008 5:59 pm ET

I wonder if Hillary would feel so strongly about the voices of the people of Florida and Michigan being heard if Obama had won the primaries?

Karen P   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

If they can afford to revote, fine…it's their own fault they didn't follow the rules. People in those states should be angry at their OWN officials. Let their officials pay for the election if they want one. If Obama can raise that kind of money…the Florida and Michigan figure out how to raise money to have an election.

Not following the DNC rules in the first place was just stupid!

Abha   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Vote for Hillary, that would make Chelsea with 16 year of White House experience and a better experienced candidate in future.

Young Liberal   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Should Hillary win the nomination, Nader gets my vote.

Lisa   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL… WIN THE NOMINATION BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY……. THIS IS THE MANTRA OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN.

WAY TO GO HILLARY!!!

Chuck   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Would Hillary be so adamant about the Floirida / Michigan delegates being seated (because it is their right as citizens) if Obama gained more delegates then she in these States? Yeah, right. If you think Hillary is most concerned with your right to be seated Florida and Michigan rather then for her own self-benefit then ask her if she would agree that both States delegates be seated and that both split their delegates equally betrween her and Obama. See what she says then and listen to the spin. Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan and they should be seated so it benefits her? No way… The Obama camp would never agree to that and I don't blame them one bit.

Angela   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

This fight needs to end or Democrats will lose a considerable number of votes in the general election because it will seem like no candidate in that party can resolve small issues therefore national issues.

Lynn   March 6th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Did anyone say CHANGE? This is NOT change we believe in. LOL
She does like change though. She changed her slogans, advertisements, campaign manager, tactics, etc. Give it up HRC you have lost this battle and still are playing dirty. We have had enough of you.

I do feel bad for FL and MI. They won't get the experiences we have had on the Obama team. Go Obama! YES WE CAN! and WE CAN'T WAIT!

Sara   March 6th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

A blatant attempt to steal election. Do you really want someone like this as President?

Bobby   March 6th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Democratic Party, DNC, Howard Dean, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton all at the a little crow/take responsibility, for Michigan and Florida delegates/voters.
1. Florida primary states as it was voted, all parties were present on the ballot and 1.7 million voters turned out.

2. Michigan primary, 40% were uncommitted, give Mr. obama 90% of the uncommitted voter, as Obama or Edwards did not appear on the ballot.

3. Hillary Clinton, receives 10% of the uncommitted vote, because it would be a certainty that Edwards would have received at least 50% of the uncommitted vote if his name had been on the ballot.

4. Democratic Party and DNC/Mr.Howard Dean, has to live with the results, Michigan and Florida have voted Hillary won. DNC and the organizing committees from Florida and Michigan must live with the results also, to have taxpayers/voters pay for this mess created by the organizing committees is unconscionable, the players have to step up and be accountable, it’s an easy fix when you take responsibility for this stupid attempt at limiting democracy. To think that voting out to states, how many states would a Democratic Party be allowed to eliminate 2, may be 4, lets go 18, yes where does it end, remember “no taxation without representation”. Mr. Dean and Mr. Obama and all players concerned might want to think about that.

5. Mr. Obama, stop crying about the rules, your election platforms clearly stated, that the delegates would determine a candidate for the Democratic Party. Mr. Obama, voted on the rules to disenfranchise voters/delegates from Michigan and Florida this is a fact, the above statement is totally contradictory to what you are saying in your speeches. This was a backdoor/old boys solution to Michigan and Florida and Mr. Obama voted right with the establishment and not part of the solution but part of the problem. Mr. Obama,your personal gains have been in momentum as a result of Hillary wins in Michigan and Florida but no delegate count. The solution allows you 90% of the uncommitted vote and you should think of this as a gift, this costs you nothing in money or time, plus you’ll be able to spin this any number of ways.

6. Ms. Hillary Clinton, won Florida and Michigan and has had significant negative/hurtful/bias media coverage pertaining to Florida and Michigan. Meanwhile Republican governor fight for the delegates/voters not to be disenfranchised but is unwilling to pay for a new primer, some $18 million. The momentum gains for Obama from Michigan and Florida were huge and continue this day as Hillary fights for her delegates.

7. This cheap/inexpensive solution suits Michigan and Florida it puts delegates/voters first, before it Hillary and Obama. The DNC and Florida and Michigan’s organizing committees be accountable to the disenfranchised voter/delegate, no one is changing the rules, we’re getting the job done. The players have to remember, that they made this stupid mess and they have to clean it up! Without costing the taxpayers anymore money.

Mr. Howard Dean, DNC, Ms. Clinton, Mr. obama, Florida and Michigan’s organizing committee. The solution is simple if all the players stand up and eat some crow. Or let this all go to lawyers, going to the convention, and just make one hellish mess of it’s all. Your educated people, stop trying to blame everyone for all this stuff, make it easy for all of us, yes the taxpayers are people who pay for your temporary jobs. To Howard Dean, if you are unable to champion this fight/solution, just get a new job and quit.

Bobby
Canada

RachelBSW   March 6th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

I honestly feel sorry for the Florida and Michigan voters, but YOUR elected officials let you down with this. They knew the rules and voted to break them anyway. Only the Clintons would find it fair to change the rules in middle of the game.
There have to be consequences when the rules aren't followed. I'm sorry that it hurts the people, but you guys need to take it out on you legislators.

Obama 08

La Raza   March 6th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

The people in Ohio are all fools. No wonder your economy is in the toilet. You actually bought in to Clintonitis. What a shame you are!

Don M.   March 6th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

The Rules did not apply to Hillary when she hid the Rose law firm records from subpoena for two years in the White House living quarters. Why should they apply to her now?

We little people would be staring at a grand jury if we did what she did. But she is a Clinton, after all.

Dave near Buffalo NY   March 6th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

What an absolutely shameless example they (she and everyone who supports her) set for others. Make no mistake, supporting her is a vote for the sort of standards she is displaying right now.

Leo   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Using her own words:

It's pathetic.

Talk about flip-flopping. Kerry is a rock compared to her.

Laura   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

If Hillary really meant it when she said she doesn't want to disenfranchise anyone in the primary process, she wouldn't tolerate or even suggest that Michigan's delegates be seated as things currently stand. Obama and Edwards followed the bizarre "rules" and left their names off the ballot. Seating her delegates for Michigan without anyone in Michigan being given the opportunity to vote for Obama in the primary is unethical, unfair, and against the whole idea of a democracy. Seems like we have a new dirty-tricks politician on the rise. She'd be a better leader if she learned something about "taking the high road."

SAW   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

If ANY ONE OF US had our vote stifled, I'm sure we'd feel pretty upset about it. It is NOT the citizens of Michigan and Florida who are to blame. It is the fault of the leaders of the Democratic Party ….. Howard Dean and his sidekicks. It is our Constitutional right to have our voices heard and our party has denied it to those two states and also to all the states who hold caucuses. Many senior citizens and physically challenged adults who need wheelchairs could not participate in caucuses because of physical limitations. Yell and Scream and Demand changes from the party but don't deny american citizens the right to have their votes counted. Personally I think the fairest way is to have primaries held or reheld in both states …. again, caucuses discriminate and OUR PARTY is one of INCLUSIVENESS so let's not advocate to EXCLUDE! It's the simple old saying …. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. GoooooooOOOOOO, DEMOCRATS!

moderate dem   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

FIRE HOWARD DEAN,

THE MASTERMIND OF THIS WHOLE MESS

Mary   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

You all are right – no surprise that Hillary wants a re-do. I wonder if she would agree to holding caucuses in both states – which would be a cheaper way to go.

David   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Hillary is doing the right thing! Obama could have gone and "campaigned" there even though the media is doing it free for him EVERYWHERE! So, cnn, msnbc, fox and other networks reach Michangan and Floirda so he did in a sense campain in those states.

I am really sick of cnn posting such negativities about Senator Clinton — Obama supporters are really hostile people!
So much for a better world with unity and such.

Hillary all the way!

Fake it til you make it Hillary   March 6th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Hillary wouldn't have this problem if she was a fair hearted person.

Obama 08

Kim   March 6th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

This really is a no brainer. People vote and the votes should count. The fact that the Democratic Party can't get its act together is no fault of the voters themselves who have little to say on when a primary or caucus is held. If the Democratic Party wants to risk the wrath of the Florida and Michigan voters, so be it. John McCain will be very happy.

Heather Peterson   March 6th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

This Michigander would like the opportunity for my voice to be heard…for OBAMA.

Jan Collins   March 6th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Only if they re-do the vote and just do caucuses.

pd4hillary   March 6th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Just a couple of quick pts.

Florida Dems, if we are not counted in this contested election, we should change our political party. Let the Democrats know that they cannot disenfranchise 1.7 milion voters. I for one will do so.

A suggestion of splitting the delegates 50/50 is the equivalent of not counting the votes, since that is not the way Florida Dems voted.

No, it was not the FL Dems fault that the primary was moved up, it was the Republican legislature and Rep governor that did so.
Obama may win on technicality on this issue, but he will lose the war on principle. Florida will not go for him in the GE, especially if the FL Dems had no say in the nomination process. That is just a cold hard fact, so don't blame Hillary for stating what should have been obvious to all at the beginning. You don't win elections by negating elections. All Dems should demand Dean's resignation for letting this issue get out of hand. This will lose the election for the Dems in NOV.

jenn   March 6th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

somebody needs to let mrs clinton know that she needs to play the game by the rules and that she cant go changing the rules in the middle of the game even if they dont suit her… poor poor hillary – not getting her way!

HD for Obama   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

I am from Kentucky and am tired of people putting down our state so I understand how voters in Mississippi feel when they are being put down. This is not a negative ad…….it is a quote of what she said a few months ago you poor Clinton supporters. Simple.

You should not put down a community or state because they are not as educated as the prominent families that Hillary comes from. Everyone is not dealt the same hand. The biggest surprise I see in this campaign is that the Clintons are winning votes among the so-called "wal mart democrats", which by the way is offenssive to me because this is the largest store in my hometown of 6,000 people. Why do voters want a candidate who feels this way about the poor and less educated? Why would they not want a candidate who struggled and fought his way to where he is now instead of being born into wealth and then marrying well?

If John Edwards wants to see real change in Washington, then why hasn't he endorsed Obama yet? Edwards said that Clinton was the status quo candidate and if real change is needed to help poor, rural areas like my hometown, then we need real change in Washington. Not another Clinton administration.

HG   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

If Obama lost 12 in a row. He would of been out of this race. But since it is a Clinton we must always give them another chance. I dont how people can call the media bias when they are keeping her pitiful campaign afloat. Think before you vote do we really want BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON. I think its time for the Clitons and Bushs to go off into the sunset.

Obama Supporters.....   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

At minimum seat the delegates….but otherwise – just do a vote – no caucus! Done – and then perhaps we can see again that the great states of Michigan and Florida will bring another winner in for Senator Clinton – even though we already know that Senator Obama will spend dilligently for all those votes.

He did it in Texas – Ohio – Vermont – Rhode Island and he will try it in Florida and Michigan……..

Prove him wrong – that all the money in the world will not take away your good senses of who will be the next great President – Senator Clinton!

Lindsay   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Funny…because she wasn't so worried about disenfranchising voters a year and a half ago when the decision to take away the delegates was made. She will change her mind when it suits her. Of course this is all part of her "endgame" to try to steal the nomination. First, she will try to change the rules that everyone agreed upon, then she will try to get taxpayers or the DNC to pay for another primary (seriously crippling the party's funds going into the general election), and finally, she will try to sway the superdelegates to vote AGAINST their constituents. Meanwhile, she will unfairly attack Obama and hope she can fool people into believing she is the candidate of "experience." Take note…she has only held an elected office since 2000. By contrast, Obama has held an elected office since 1996. Being the spouse of a politician does not equate the same experience! Don't think that the Republicans won't jump all over her "experience" argument in the general election.

Simona Continente   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Erm…Who is Obama? Hillary for President please. Thank you

Len Arenas   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Forget that it is obvious that Hillary is desperate to rob, steal, cry for, or plead for delegates. Does't it occur to everyone that this means that she is a situational moralist. Forget that for a moment, but isn't it indicative of just how she would conduct foreign policy if elected. Gee, I can't see how she would be able to colloborate with half the Democrats in Congress, much less the Republicans. Just remember, she was not able to push through health care reforms because she was not able to build a team playing partnership. Now, what makes anyone think that she can do it now. I'd say that having Hillary for President is just begging for America's continued downfall economically, diplomatically, morally, and all at the expense of the working poor.-Wake up America!-Len

Cindy   March 6th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

What is even funnier is that in Michigan a full 41% voted undecided rather than vote for Hillary. What does that tell you.

Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.

At this point the democratic party must tread very carefully. Anything they do that gives the appearance of pandering to HRC's wishes and that does not give Obama a fair shot at winning delegates in these two states will be looked at as an attempt to steal the nomination away from Obama. If that happens, there will be hell to pay…. now and for the next 15 to 20 years.

As to you outraged voters in Michigan and Florida…. why don't you spend time venting at the bozo's who made the decision to ignore the DNC and move up the primaries. It is not the fault of either HRC or Obama but you are the ones who are having to bare the brunt of their decision. That's OK, I'm sure the DNC will let you vote in the general election.

Chris, Denver CO   March 6th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

If they want to count, all they need to do is schedule a new vote that complies with the rules. Simplest thing in the world.

Jake NY   March 6th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Forget about some stupid rules and who agree to what and where. Didn't Obama pledged to abide by public financing and now he has no clue about this "pledge". Fact is…this is a democracy and if people desire to vote, then they should be allowed to vote and have their vote count. It's bad enough that Florida already had a scandel with the voting in the last Presidential election, do we want to follow that debacle again by not making their vote count? Just have the election and whoever wins, wins. You can't tell the voters in Michigan and Florida they are citizens but they can't vote? What kind of nonsense is this, especially from the party that is supposed to be "for the people"?.

Goodheart   March 6th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

How can anyone be against this re-vote? It was not the Florida and Michigan voters fault that they were mis-represented. They don't deserve to be left out of this historic primary. Whatever their representatives did to them, now they should not be dis-infranchised.
Let their voices be heard… they are a big part of this country and important states in the general election.

sam   March 6th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Sen. Obama’s decision to go explicitly negative suggests that he is unable to make an affirmative case for his candidacy beyond ad hominem attacks. Why isn’t he discussing the hearings that he held on the Foreign Affairs subcommittee that he chairs? Why isn’t he talking about his travel through Latin America? Why isn’t he briefing the public on his comprehensive plan to address the foreclosure crisis now? Why isn’t he stumping on his universal plan health care plan? Because he can’t and so he is advancing a campaign strategy premised on process and personal attacks.

abby   March 6th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

what a lady.. she is never to be trusted. she says something today and the next day its something else… so what are the rules for? and why did she agree to it… on the other hand I think democrats must not anger these states despite the fact that they choose to break the rules.. to make it fair Just split the delegates.. Re -do will cost so much. I believe we have better things to spend this money on.

doug   March 6th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Go Hillary, to the moon and do'nt come back.

democrate in LA   March 6th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

I feel better now after watching this clip. Howard Dean will NEVER authorize DNC money ($18M!) to pay for a 2nd primary due to a Republican tactic to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of Florida Democrats. It was a brilliant strategy on the part of the Florida Republicans, and it will surely gain Crist front-runner status to become McCain's running mate. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

If Crist sticks to this position in Florida, Floridian delegates can plan to watch the convention on TV with the rest of us. Unbelievable. If the DNC caves in, there will be mayhem in the streets. This very tactic will motivate the DNC to broker a nominee with the superdelegates sooner rather than later. All the better for Mr. Obama.

SV   March 6th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Shame on Hillary. Clintons are known for their lies and fraud.

All these days she was dreaming about someone and suddenly she is misleading everyone.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean shouldnt bow down to these cheapos. They should stick to the rules.

Shame on people of Florida and Michigan also. If they are too keen on showing their support to any of their candidate they should have voiced their opinions in January itself.

Michael, North Carolina   March 6th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Sen. Clinton will destroy the Democratic Party if she tries to get those delegates seated. Michigan and Florida will clearly be favorited for her. It would be different if Sen. Clinton said in the begining that she was against not seating the delegates, but SHE WAS NOT, RULES ARE RULES. I can not imagine what Sen. Clinton would do and say if she was in the position of Sen. Obama. Bill Clinton would raise all kind of sand if Sen. Obama wanted to change the rules in the middle of the game. Sen. Clinton should just save face, and bow out of the race for the sake of the Democratic Party.

YES WE CAN
OBAMA/EDWARDS "08

TKS   March 6th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Isn't the "The Bushesque…I'm above the rules" thinking what we were all trying to get rid of? Yet, here we are again. What is it about the AMerican people that makes us say one thing and then do another?

We say we want change in Washington…yet so many of us are still voting for the same old people hoping to get a new result. We say we want to have people who are not so arrogant to think they are above the law, yet here we are saying that we are considering letting the states that CHOSE to forgo seating their delegates so they could move up their primaries have another go at it AND we are considering it because Hillary keeps calling for it?

Wake up people. Where was Mrs. Clinton's indignation when the decision was made? Why is she only vocal now that she feels that she is going to benefit? Examine the motives of all the parties. And then we question why we are in the state we are in as a country.

Tyler   March 6th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Well its sounds like the Obama fans… excuse me… supporters, are getting a little scared!

Hillary 08′

Alexandra   March 6th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

I can tell from the posted comments that everyone belives Hillary is a fraud. But what i don't understand is why everyone keeps falling for her dirty tricks?
How is it that Ohio and Texas voted for her despite her negatives?
I think America is not ready for a change at all.
America wants the same old corruption and enpeachment scandals of the 90's.
If Hillary wins the nomination Obama's supporters should vote for McCain. He has run an honest and positive campaign just like Obama
Obama/Edwards '08 or McCain/Huckabee '08

Neil   March 6th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

“With two outstanding candidates battling so closely for their party’s nomination, there’s no way you can tell nearly two million Florida voters they don’t count," he said in a statement.

We just did.

SONIA   March 6th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Sen. Obama’s decision to go explicitly negative suggests that he is unable to make an affirmative case for his candidacy beyond ad hominem attacks. Why isn’t he discussing the hearings that he held on the Foreign Affairs subcommittee that he chairs? Why isn’t he talking about his travel through Latin America? Why isn’t he briefing the public on his comprehensive plan to address the foreclosure crisis now? Why isn’t he stumping on his universal plan health care plan? Because he can’t and so he is advancing a campaign strategy premised on process and personal attacks.

andrea, Illinois   March 6th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

This woman just makes me sick!!!
Rules are rules, ALSO FOR HILARY!!!
It's pretty obvious that now that she needs the delegates, she wants to change the rules. Didn't she and everybody else agree to the rules before?At that point she probably didn't expect that in March she would not only not be the nominee, but also trailing. Her way of politics are just disgusting and that's why we need CHANGE!

uchujin   March 6th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

How about this:

If the candidates want Florida or Michigan delegates, let them fund the primary redo by turning over $10M apiece to each to state to re-administer the process. Their fundraising machines are quite capable of raising the $20M each would require. That way no one is disenfranchised even though they deserve to be.

PF- Florida   March 6th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Did she not agree, months ago, with the Democratic Committee, not to allow them because Florida wanted to vote early…does she not realize that MANY people in Florida, like myself, DID NOT go out and vote because we knew the votes were not going to be counted! Also, Obama was not on the Michigan ticket. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Lucas lederer   March 6th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

the delegates should be seated I have idea why to we tell Wisconsin and conneticut and Georgia there votes dont count and see how they like it. Obama supporters should go by the structure of a democracy and let everyone have a say.

Ric   March 6th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

ha ha ha. Dems are gonna lose…. ha ha ha!

Mc Cain – Lieberman '08

** funny how John Mc Cain will be the one to unite the parties.
poor Dems… busy fightin each other. Took your eyes off the ball.
Thanks Obama and Clinton. Couldn't have done it without you!!!!

Joel, VA   March 6th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

This is a clear indication of the lack of character on the part of Hillary. As a parent she is sending a very destructive message to children that "rules are meant to be broken."

I would have thought that Americans with ethical standards would come out in droves to condemn this practice. Rules that were set by all participants should be honored in order to validiate the integrity of the process.

Attempting to change the rules in the middle of the game because it suits you is a disgrace to democracy and begs the question, "WHAT OTHER UNDERHANDED APPROACH HAS HILLARY USED TO GET HER THIS FAR IN THE RACE?"

Sacramento   March 6th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

I'm all for a do-over, but if they give unearned and undeserved delegates to this desperate, cheating woman, then I'm moving to Canada.

Ed   March 6th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

If the votes had gone Obama's way she wouldn't be saying this.
THE CLINTONS ARE CORRUPT TO THE BONE!!

LA-Ann Arbor   March 6th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

I think the delegates should be allocated in proportion to the popular vote for Florida and Michigan. Senator Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan, a seldom mentioned detail by him or his campaign. It probably wasn't the best judgment.

Florida should be allocated as is, since the vote to move the primary was requested by a Governor and legislature led by the other party.

Garba   March 6th, 2008 5:46 pm ET

I give in. Let us seat the FL and MI delegates but since the election was not fair or conducted normally, then the seating should rectify that.

Half the FL and MI delegates go to Obama and the other half to Hillary.

1. They get seated
2. Their votes count
3. They are not alienated
4. Everyone is included

Anything else is not acceptable.

ted   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

This lady is really getting on my nerves. HC says she did'nt campaign in florida – maybe not officailly but she was there fund raising and i'm sure she said a few words in her behalf while she was there. Some floridians have said that she had been pormising them their votes would count, and to please go out and vote well before the election day. If that's not campaigning – i dont know what is, especially when trying to play the ' im the only one who respects your vote' card.

ray   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

clinton is a parasite living large off of hard working americans, just type in clinton scandal and and look at all of the federal investigations,lies & dirty deals.
clintons are so corrupt anyone who would put them back in the whitehouse is very stupid. people forget the clintons were impeached pretty much kicked out of the whitehouse.

James   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Hillary, this sound like fraud to me.

Dena NJ   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

The rules were clearly set now Hillary is saying too bad let's ignore the rules and do what is good for me !!
What does this say for the type of leadership she represents?
Out with the old style politics full of deals and connections etc etc..

How unfair to those who did not show up to vote because they were following the rules!

It's clear the Clintons have no values and will let nothing get in the way of their personal gain.
What kind of country will we have is we start to ignore all rules??
Why is Hillary sending such a bad message, once again thank sto a Clinton parents will have to explain to their children that the Clintons live by their own rules and set of values and morals!

If Florida and Mich want to be seated just have a re-do

Jeff - Illinois   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Now we know why Hillary spent the time and effort she did on those states. She figured she could slither in and get the delegates to count in states where she basically ran uncontested.

Hillary's attitude on this issue has helped me to finally make up my mind on whether I would vote for her should she get the nomination, and the answer is clearly, no.

This is disgusting.

Ty   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Barack should take Hillary's offer and agree to have an election do-over. We the way the math works even if he loses Both FL and MI by less than 20% She will still be toast way b4 Puerto Rico….trust me do tha math game….

Arlene NY   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

To the people of Florida and Michigan:The DNC refuses to let your votes count. Yet, come November they fully expect you to vote for the Democratic nominee? Well, in protest of the way the DNC are not being democratic to the citizens of Florida and Michigan, I for one, will not be voteing come November.

HD for Obama   March 6th, 2008 5:45 pm ET

Did Wolfe vote for Hillary? I heard this but can't confirm this…..his reporting has been so biased in the past few weeks when it appeared his candidate would lose out.

Sue   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Hillary is pathetic and she makes me sick !

Everyone knows the name "Clinton" means nothing but corruption and scandle.

Hillary, just go away !

Ardnuas   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

This is unfair to all the other states that played by the rules!!!!!!!!!!
George Bush stole the 2000 election, and the Clintons are TRYING to steal the 2008 election. If they STEAL this election, I will NEVER vote for another Democrat !!!!

Wyoming Dem   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Hillary aside…I feel for the voters in those states. Sure, there states choose to buck the DNC but few if any of the voters understood that when they went and cast their ballot it counted for NOTHING! Their leadership in FLorida and Michigan are the ones to blame. Problem is…"How do you punish FLorida & Michigan without punishing the Democratic electorate in those States?" I guess I am in favor of cutting the amount of dlegates awarded in half? I don't know. No easy answer.

Hillary friends in MA   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

i hope somebody tells those first time Obama voters that its not a good idea to disenfranchise Florida, just before a General Election.

Do the few hundred caucus goers in Alaska deserve more of a voice than the Millions in Florida and Michigan?

steinway   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

Obviously the neophytes who think these states aren't important haven't paid attention to the electoral process in the last twenty years.

Michigan and Florida are crucial for the same reason most of the states Mrs. Clinton has won are, they are populous states with electoral clout which makes them pivotal to winning a national election ie. any candidate that can't win Ohio, Texas, Florida, Michigan, etc. cannot be president of this country.

Also, I find it ironic that Mr. Obama characterizes this as attempting to "change the rules" when he has over and over again pressured the superdelegates to follow the votes of their constituents when they were expressly created to decide using their own best judgement in order to negate any influence from Independents and Republicans who crossed the lines and voted in states where this is allowed.

Michelle   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

If they just want to seat the delegates . then 50-50 so it does not really influence the outcome.

Why weren't all the FLORIDA people OUTRAGED in 2000 ? Thanks for giving the rest of us President Bush for 8 years.

2 wars
3 trillion dollar debt from one of those wars
Has done not one positive thing for America
KATRINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where was this kind of OUTRAGE in 2000 ? I just didn't see it .

BLACKMAN for HILLARY   March 6th, 2008 5:44 pm ET

GO HILLARY GO!! KEEP FIGTHING FOR WHAT THE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN!! WE CAN DO THIS!!

HILLARY 08

HIllary 08

Hillary 08

michele valentino   March 6th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

You can't get what you want at the expense of other people. What about all the voters who stayed home and didn't vote because they thought their vote wouldn't count. Aren't their voices as valuable as the ones who voted in a non sanctioned election? Hold new primaries in both states and let everyone vote this time. It should be paid for by those who broke the rules including candidates who broke their promise.

Michele Valentino
Dallas, Texas

jarryd   March 6th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

its funny if it was other way around you wouldn't be saying that mr Ryan along with all other Clinton supporters . We mideas well just change all the rules to fit who ever needs to win . Just like bush Did to win

jp/michigan   March 6th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

I voted in Michigan. It isn't my fault that the power to be decided to move up the date. I want my vote to count. Obama and Edwards made the choice no to have their names on the ballot, even after ask by the Michigan democratic party to leave their names on. You can split the uncommitted voted in half for Obama and Edwards. Florida all candidates were on the ballot so devide the delagates according to the election out come.

Kevin- PA   March 6th, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Oh Hillary you want to change the rules in the middle of the race! How pathetic !!!…
Hillary does not care about rules..America…all she wants is to "WIN" Hillary this is America, last I checked we dont have jungle rule over here!

HD for Obama   March 6th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Obama won 13 straight contests before the Clintons were able to hold off their large leads in Ohio and Texas. Now Obama will win the next two battles. I want to see democrats in Pennsylvania rise up and vote to end this election by voting for Obama. She should not try to "steal" this election like Bush did in 2000 by allowing Florida and Michigan count when they obviously did not count prior to starting this election because their leadership broke the rules.

Clinton is trying to "steal" this election like George Bush did in 2000. Democrats will not stand for this and there will be consequences if this happens again as voters will leave the party and not trust the DNC.

K.Celina IL   March 6th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Voters, You all need to hear that:
"Obama was a teenager, living in South Carolina.
One of the property owner hired Young Obama to do some garden work. The boy was lazy, needed to be remined that the job needs to be done (three or more times). Finaly the owner let him go with words.
Boy, you better stick with Politics, you are unable to keep any job, you are lazy" This wards come from doughter of the propery owner.
Her father wa stired of the teenager, reminding him, that the job has to be done !!!!!
I can't picture this with Obama going in to Presidency.!!!! Sorry !!!

Tou, Minnesota   March 6th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Like the Iraq War, I bet you Hillary won't admit that she made a 'mistake' when she agreed to rules. Pointing the finger at someone else as usual.

Know Hillary - No Hillary   March 6th, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Hillary beat the New York Yankees in the T-ball World Series – she did so by not telling them there was a contest. Now she thinks she a champion. Grow up.

Jen   March 6th, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Thats Hillary a Rule Breaker.. but if they do agree to this it would have to be a revote.. cant take it like it is. Too many didnt vote due to they knew their vote would not make a difference at the time. Cant take a win if its not a TRUE WIN!!!

BYE BYE HILLARY!!

Go Obama!!

kerry d   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

as a republican i hope that the dems keep at each other. mccain is not going to drag all of the nasty stuff out against clinton and obama, but these two dems will do each other in without a doubt unless a major statesman in the party tells them to knock it off, if they can find a major statesman that does not have a dog in this fight.

kb13   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Every American's vote should count. Seat the delegates!

Nick   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Go Hilldog!! You're allowed to change your mind on the issue of delegates, all women can change their mind!

Just Miss   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I really wish Hillary would stop with the dirty politics. If she was ahead right now Hillary would not want these two states to count. She has issues and really needs to get over them…..

Hillary – Give it up!!!! Seriously, mathmatically it is impossible for you to win. You decided every vote wasn't important enough for you to try and get. "Only the big states matter…" You said! Well, guess what? The little states matter too!!! We all need a president….not just they few you decide are worth your time.

G.N. Penley   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

Hillary wants to change the rules in the middle of the game, of course. Typical Clintonesque maneuver. If she had lost those states, I wonder what she'd be saying. Just kidding; I don't wonder at all. Here's wishing her the worst.

Daid   March 6th, 2008 5:40 pm ET

I can’t believe we are still talking about this issue. Hilary herself propagated and promoted this rule. How then can she then turn around to fight against it just because it is not going in her favor? She probably thinks she is above the law and can pick and choose which one to abide by at her appropriate time. America does this sound familiar? If you let the women win, you are putting another George W. Bush in the White House. I can’t imagine myself living, even for a second, under another Bush like administration.

SoreLoser   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Ryan – Next time, remember to bring the other half of your brain before you make such STUPID comments.
The local politicians in both states KNEW the consequences and they still did it. IT ABSOLUTELY doesn't make sense to talk about these 2 states and people's voice now. Thats the price they pay for having such STUPID politicians like Sen. Bill Nelson. My 5 year old can explain this to you if you wish.

Stephen   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

If you are not able to play by the rule you are out! No body changes the rule in between a game. As I understand everyone knew and understood that FL and MI don’t count so I don’t see why they should change anything now.

Buddy, OR   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Look at the big picture people!! We Dems cannot afford to have dissident voters in battle ground states like FL and MI. The state have and will play a vital role in the Presidental elections. We have to figure out a way to have these voters voices herd. As for FL I feel it should be hers. Niether of them campaigned there, both names were on the ballot, as for MI… I don't know. Give her hers and give him the uncommitted. Obama should have never taken his name of the ballot. Call it a lapse in gudgement, inexperience, rookie mistake, what ever, his bad. Live and learn.
The point still is these people have to be herd.

The Decider   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

This needs to be put to rest. It was decided by the DNC and the candidates (all of them) that there delegates would NOT be seated if they moved their primaries up. Now that she is scratching for delegates, she is BEGGING for them to be seated.

I agree with Roland Martin…. Just split them down the middle and let them be seated. That will put them both closer to the magic number and make these last few states extremely important. I have seen the Obama campaign in most states where she picks and chooses. Beings from a midwest state it would of been nice if she could of spent a little time with us nobodies????? I won't vote for her.. Just keep crying and you will probably get your wish Hilly!!!! This is getting pretty sickening. Press loves it and I think it is going to tear the party apart……

Steve   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Ryan, Please explain to me why it's ok for Hillary to vote FOR banning the delegates, then attempt to get them un-banned. This is nothing more than typical Clinton politics, trying to change the rules as they go.

Sheri   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

The public was privy to the transparency of poor tactics used by Hillary when she made a dash for Florida, and it has become clear that she did not plan on playing by the rules in the first place.
Nice guys may finish last (obama) but at least they finish…
The leaders of Michigan and Florida need to cough up the money and play by the rules. It appears that Hillary, Michigan and Florida think they are bigger than the DNC or rules of the contest.
Such a tiring story see over and over again in the movies. Don't they know that when you cheat you end up losing?

Mad in Texas   March 6th, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Why shouldn't all the votes and delegates count. Obama had the same chance as Hillary. He campaigned in Florida, she didn't, and his name was still on the ticket. He had a choice in Michigan but was too dumb to take it. Why should the people of Florida and Michigan be punished. DEAN says because of their rules. They don't have any rules. The rules of elections lay with the states. They have the right to hold an election at any time. This should be taken to the Supreme Court. Obama, Dean, and Puloski are trying to pull a Bush on Hillary at Kennedys bidding. How could anybody listen to that murderer. He should be tried. Like OJ he was another great American injustice. When you get to be President Hillary please go after him and try him. Also go after Bob Novak. Try him for treason. He gave up the name of the lady CIA Agent endangering her life, at Bush and Cheney's request. Bush and Cheney also need to be tried for treason. GO HILLARY 08

Sara   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

BS, great post and how true. Why can't more people see this?

Efrain Hernandez Sr.   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

I am a Florida registered Democrat voting on each local, county, state and national election since 1974. I have never seen something like the actual situation regarding my Democrat Party at the State and National level ignoring the power of the constitutional voting rights of the registered voters in Florida. If the NDC had to penalize someone for moving ahead the primaries in Florida, Dr. Dean took the easy but dangerous decision not to allow the Florida delegates to be seated at the National Convention. Why he did not penalize the leaders of the Florida State Democrat Committee instead. We, the voters in Florida will have the power in our hands to penalize Senator Obama and the NDC on the general election in November 2008, because Florida will be the State who will take the decision about which party will win the Presidency of our Nation. Today I perfectly knew who is the real Mr. Obama, when he and Dr Dean refused to allow the Florida delegates to be seated at the National Convention. Mr. Obama, no delegates seated, no votes for for you in November 2008.

Henry   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

The rules for Florida and Michigan were set before the process and the Clintons agreed. The Democratic National Committee should put a stop to the underhanded acts of the Clintons.

If the DCN allows the Clintons/Super Delagets to go against the will of the people I and many will change political parties.

Dmocratic National Commitee (DCN) needs to step in against the tactics of the Clinton Campaign. It is obvious the Clintons have no shame.

BS   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

You can't change the rules half way through the fight.

Is Carl Rove Hillary's campaign manager!!!!!

d   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Being from Michigan, I know for a fact that our State cannot spare such an expense. I, being a taxpayer, do not want my taxes raised once again to have a "revote" period. Our Govenor KNEW this was against the DNC rules, and she went ahead with it anyways. Furthermore, the revoting for Michigan and Florida WAS NOT looked at until now???? Come on……………guess it will ALWAYS be dirty Politics as usual with these candidates.

Jeremy   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Wow Ryan

"she didn't know that these states would even be necessary"

Did she think she would win the nomination so easily that they wouldn't matter. Sounds like the arrogance we should be against.

Vincent Faraone   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

If you cant win fair and square, Cheat. How refreshing that the lepord didnt change her spots.

Paul M   March 6th, 2008 5:38 pm ET

There should be no do-over contests. Both Florida and Michigan knew they were in violation of the DNC rules by holding their primaries when they did. Respecting the DNC rules, neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton campaigned in either state (in fact, Obama wasn't even on one ballot). But now that the race is so close, there is talk (especially by the Clinton side) to take a Mulligan rather than abide by the rules. There won't be any "do-overs" for whomever is elected President. The candidates should learn that now. Also, I don't get to vote twice in my state and the voters in Florida and Michigan (who knew there would be no delegates attached to their votes when they went to the polls the first time) shouldn't be afforded the opportunity to a do-over. If any do-overs ARE conducted, the DNC should not foot the bill.

Jessica, MI   March 6th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Just background info: Hillary is good friends with our (MI) governor, Jennifer Granholm. Granholm has been promised a spot in a Hillary presidential administration. The MI primary date switch has been suspect and ill-timed from the start. Hillary left her name on the ballot after giving other candidates the impression she would withdraw.

Hillary's trying to steal this election. Be wary.

andrew jones   March 6th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

….in your dream old lady!

Sara   March 6th, 2008 5:37 pm ET

Obama is still ahead. Go Obama 08′ NO MORE CLINTONS!!!!!!!!!

Ardnuas   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

I hope voters are "smart" enough to ask her to release her tax returns, and e-mails that she is HIDING. Also ask… WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES SHE HAVE ?
( Florida and Michigan broke the rules, and Clinton AGREED with the punishment) Obama/Edwards 08 Si Se Puede

Moore   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

"This connection between the Clintons and InfoUSA only underscores the necessity of full disclosure of income sources and amounts by all the presidential candidates and the release of their income tax returns, a step Mrs. Clinton has, thus far, refused to take. "

Clintons tied to scamming elderly. Google it!

L.B.   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

I AM FROM MICHIGAN AND I WANT MY VOTE TO COUNT.

Ashley   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

At 3am all Hillary is gonna do is pick the phone up and hand it to Bill. Let him deal with whatever is going wrong.

Give it up Hillary

David   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

The dialogue–in these Ticker blogs, on street corners, in living rooms, and communities across the country–is disintegrating. Ours is a party whose time and opportunity have come. We have a Republican President with the lowest approval ratings of any president of any party in recent memory, an unpopular war costing us billions of dollars and thousands of lives, an economy in utter disarray, a standing in the world that could hardly be worse…the list goes on and on. The time is now for a change, and yet we seem considerably more disposed to sniping at one another.

At some point, this madness must end. The real risk–and none of us should underestimate its impact in November–is that the Republicans are consolidating and singularly focused on November. Our focus is diffuse. We have circled the wagons, and we are shooting ourselves. Beware, fellow Ds. We run the distinct risk of snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.

frank   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

Go Hillary!! we are supporting you all the way.

Franky   March 6th, 2008 5:36 pm ET

"[The DNC's] job now is to elect the President of the United States and we're not going to have the resources to run a primary in Michigan or Florida," Dean said on CNN's American Morning Thursday. "So we hope they can comply with the rules, but they're going to have to figure out how to pay for it."

Believe it or not, this is why I think it might be just a little hard to do it. But Howard is right, that I can't argue with. As for Michigan and Florida, I got their back but I'm sure they know their situation they're involve with….

OBAMA 08   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Fine, let her have a do over, as long as SHE pays for it. It is not fair for the DNC to have to dish out $25 million of party cash, just because Miss Hillary didn't do as well as she thought in all the other states.

This is outrageous. She's going to use the Latino population again and try to win. It's over Hillary, just give it up. You will never catch up in pledged delegates.

Janel, St. Paul, MN   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

If the DNC . . .and all the super-delegates. . .bow to the HUGE Clinton machine, they will lose voters.

For the first time in many years, voters have been drawn into this contest. This is NOT because of Clinton, but because of Obama's draw.

He promises "Hope," yes "H.O.P.E" This is something the Clinton/McCain campaigns joke about. But the Obama supporters have it. . .they desperately are looking forward to this.

If their dreams are shattered, goodbye to Clinton and perhaps McCain. Voters will not turn out. . .and who knows where our country will be headed.

w.muir@comcast.net   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

To Bill W; you hit the nail right on the head. Rules, laws, ethics, honesty, integrity, morality, honoring your word; these are but SOME of the things that have no meaning to Hillary or Bubba. The only difference between Bubba and Hillary when it comes to the truth is that Bubba is a CONVICTED liar and she hasn'r been caught yet.

Oh, Bill in PA....   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

The DNC needs to figure something out with MI and FL, the voters of these states should not be penalized for something they had no control over. If the race weren't so close, it probably wouldn't matter, but it is, and so it does. I am sure they can come up with something that BOTH candidates agree with….

and for Bill in PA, don't worry little one…your vote will count…you shouldn't put your desire to 'vote last' ahead of the voice of millions of voters….

democrat '08!

Amy   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

The villain in this is not Howard Dean. The villains are the members of the Florida and Michigan parties who not only knew the rules, but agreed to them. And then later for selfish reasons chose to thumb their nose at them. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at them.

What are we teaching our children if we say, "Okay, you can cheat and break the rules and then complain and still get your way." I feel bad for the voters in those states, but not because of Howard Dean. I feel bad for the voters because of their own leadership. Shame on them.

And let's be honest hear. The governors of both states want Hillary Clinton as the democratic candidate… but for very different reasons. I wish Howard Dean had the guts to hold his ground. Those delegates should not be seated. There are consequences for your actions.

THE TRUTH BE KNOWN   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

America, America, One day Hillary and Bill Clinton will come clean but when.

The Bill Clinton of the past was a great leader before he put America for sale to China, Japan, Russia, UEA yes Dubai Port World.

Now when they put America for sale we all are at risk. America we need to ask more question…….

Bill Clinton, has did what no other President in history have never done in the world history.

What would you call it if we find out he been selling secrets……

Serge from Miami   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Why would anyone change the rules in the middle of a contest? In my experience, only cheaters and opportunists do that.

Go figure.

Demetri Demo   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

It's good to see that partisan lines are forming WITHIN the Democratic Party. Good to know we're going to lose the general election because everyone here is so in love with their own candidate, so intent on just beating the other person, that they forgot that whomever wins, we ALL have to support. That is, unless you want McCain to win.

Jazz   March 6th, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Is it true that Obama took his name off in MI to help Iowa remain as the first to vote in these contests? Didn't New Hampshire move their primary up too? Why aren't their votes cast out too? It apparently pays to have the leader of the party be from YOUR state when you violate the rules. Obama didn't take his name off in FL but DID Win in Iowa.
Please find the answers CNN. Thank you.

The elections did not violate the laws of the land. They violated PARLIAMENTARY rules of the party. How big are the egoes at the DNC? What a fine mess they've gotten us into.
Real Democrats Don't Quit!!!!!!!!!

Eric   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

I am outraged by Charlie Crist's "offer" to have a second primary.

It's clear to me that the purpose of a second primary in Florida would be to prolong to nomination process, thereby helping McCain (whom Crist endorsed). Florida moved the primary when we knew the delegates would be stripped and went ahead anyway.

Florida is in a serious budget crisis. I'm a state prosecutor and our cost of living increases were cancelled because we're so broke. The governor has been having every state budget slashed because the projected state income fell far short. My office has a hiring freeze and it's unclear when we'll ever get the raises we were promised when we were hired. It is outrageous that he would offer to have a second primary, costing the state of Florida millions of dollars, when we can't even pay law enforcement and prosecutors, especially when we moved the primary ahead in spite of admonitions by the DNC.

Does anyone disagree that Crist's move is purely political? He's obviously positioning himself to be McCain's VP pick. It doesn't hurt that he's getting national attention either.

Mark   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

I cant live through another 8 years of posturing Clinton side speak. Congrats Ohio, youve voted for another candidate who will completely ignore your situation and ignore your state for another 4 years. But like good machine style party democrats you supported your base. the same base that left you for dead about 30 years ago. Im starting to think OH may be slow in the head.

Veronica in CA   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

She's NOT talking about having the results stand as they are. She's talking about finding SOME way to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan after it has been determined by those states and the DNC how to apportion them.

Stephina   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

I don't believe that the Democratic Party really afford to turn away primary votes and delegates from Florida and Michigan.

In the end they will have to hold another primary prior to June or seat the delegates according the votes that were taken during their original primaries.

The Democratic Party comes across as not knowing what they are doing, they have divided their nomination and caused hate between the Clinton and Obama supporters and yet they expect to win in November. I don't see that happening at the current rate they are going.

Larry Dickman - IA   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

She agreed to the rules and now she wants to change them. Sorry but that is not right. If the shoe was reversed, you know she would not want the delegates to be seated.

Is it right that the votes don't count – yes. However these two states had the chance to not change the dates of their primaries, and they didn't. Sorry.

Alan   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Ol' Hill at it again. Displaying the same type of failed leadership she did in the '90's with healthcare. If is doesn't go her way she tries to bully and force it on people.

Yeah that is the kind of leader we need.

Sheri   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

First of all the people of Florida and Michigan should not be upset with the DNC, they should be looking at their representatives for not playing by the rules.
Hillary Clinton went against the rules voted by the DNC and chose to go ahead and campaign in Florida, the people who voted for her were essentially duped by Florida leaders.
If Florida and Michigan want their delegates to count then they should cough up the money to have a redo for primaries or caucases.
The public was privy back then when Hillary made a dash for Florida to obtain delegates, and it's very transparent what she's trying to do now. Guess what Clinton campaign? NICE GUYS DO FINISH LAST!

simple thought ?   March 6th, 2008 5:34 pm ET

she who laughs last, may have the last laugh?

Diane in Texas   March 6th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Whose fault is it that Obama was too inexperienced to put his name on the ballot even though the delegates didn't matter? It is his fault and if he is too inexperienced to do this tiny task, he is too inepexperienced to be president. GIVE THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA THEIR VOICES BACK, LET THE VOTES COUNT. SAME IN MICHIGAN. If the Dems lose Florida, they will lose the entire election in November. Oh well!

nick   March 6th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Why didn't she come out for them when they first decided not to count their votes? Need I answer for you? She is a Clinton for sure. Snake

Farrell, Houston, Tx   March 6th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

The Clintons have broken so many laws and rules, one more won't hurt. Republicans are smart, Giuliani was their baggage and they got rid of it quick, very smart. Democrats hold onto old baggage and vote for Hillary while she's creating more baggage to take to the White House, not so smart. Wake up democrats, Hillary is not your winning ticket.

Mary   March 6th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Every votes counts…even the ones in Florida and Michigan. I think something can be done to make this equal for Hilliary and Obama. They both are great, and deserve every vote they can get. this is still americanot South africa or Russia. Let the good times roll. as President Bush says, "Lets Roll".

Gary   March 6th, 2008 5:33 pm ET

This is moot point. Florida and Michigan re-dos while democratically and politically correct will not alter the delegate count. I suspect that if they did re-dos that Clinton and Obama will get a similar number of delegates, despite theearlier primaries. So if thats whats best for the party then conduct them. No big deal its only money to hold them at stake. It looks like this will go to the convention. If I may ask PA voters a favor- please review the latest Clinton scandal/fraud/discrepancy about NAFTA and Obama and Canada. Here is your chance to right a wrong, as well as give the fine people in Ohio some redemption for their being duped. America will not stand for cheats, corruption etc. We'll leave that domain for the GOP and Clintons. That will only help McCain(McBush) in the general.

Vanessa   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Since I am one of the people from Florida who voted in January, I think I have earned the right to speak. I say let's follow the rules and move on! There are several key points to why our delegates should not be seated at the convention. 1) Our governor knew the rules and chose to take other action and you must suffer the consequences of your action. 2) The votes in 2000 were not counted because we had to follow the rules. To count these votes at this point would be a mockery of our democratic system.

I agree with the Chairman of the committee that this would tear the party apart. It is time that we democrats stop thinking about the battle and look toward winning the war!

Mike99123   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

If you consider winner take all as will be done in the general election,
Clinton is still leading 1721 to 1142 for Obama.
The Caucus games are over and let us now get behind one candidate who has shown she can win the big states where all the electoral votes are sitting for the general election. DNC should stop playing games . Elections in Nov will be a serious business and let us move on to beat the Republicans. That is what it is all about.

R Johnston   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

If Senator Clinton was winning would Florida and Michigan really matter? She told the nation that she care only about winning in the big states, is this any indication of how the people in the little states, in the little houses will be treated when she moves in the BIG White House?

We are wondering if the IRS calls at 3 a.m. asking for tax returns will ANYONE answer phone?

Zeke-Florida   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

You're right. Floridians shouldn't be allowed to vote-AGAIN.
Maybe they shoudln't have to pay taxes either!

TX Richardson   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Anybody tries to shut down the voices of millions of people is a crime.
Revote or not, Hillary is and will be the winner of FL and MI.
Just live with it O Fans!!!!!!

blake andrew   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

why is american so blind about the dishonesties of the clinton? women vote for with integrity and honesty. remember most once a cheater alway a cheater. clinton trying to change rule to thier advantage should tell voters a lot of the integrity of her presidency. she can not release her tax return and her first lady record. why should american trust her. if she had nothing to hide she would have release them by now. so let stop kidding our selves and vote the for the honest candidate.

Grif   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Go Hillary! Show these women, they to have a voice in,

"Uncle Sam's" – Domain! This is your roots. as well as all the other female spous's of

America. Show the Country what women can do. The men have had all their own way

so far. Come on you Mothers and Daughter. She needs you!!

Don't complain in the future, if you let it go now….

A woman in the, "White House".. Bill's no competition' to her these days.

Remmember "ALL the KIng's Men" Your choice: " All the Women's ?????? "..

Michelle   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

If anyone votes for Hillary AFTER all the nonsense including this that she has DONE .. they deserve the DRAMA she and Bill will bring them .

The elected officials of their OWN sates are to blame. Next time they have STATE elections vote them all out of office. THAT IS THEIR POWER .

When was the last time a democrat won Florida in a general election ? I think Florida is definitely going to the Republicans as usual .. So yes lots of people, in a state that could not figure out hanging chads last time.

Where were all the Florida people in 2000 NOT DEMANDING A DO OVER !?!!??!?!?!!?!? HELLLLOOOOOOOOOOOO … Where were the DEMOCRATS IN THAT STATE THEN ????

Canuk   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

omg this woman is PATHETIC
win at any cost ,sneak, cheat, lie , taint, it goes on and on
thank God her lies about NAFTA gate are coming back to haunt her!
when are Americans going to wake up about who this woman really is!!
go to the polls and vote for real change in your country and its NOT her

Gorbashov, Long Beach, Ca.   March 6th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Disregard the rules, move the goal posts, cheat, steal, lie……do anything to win.

Hillary you can't win.

For the sake of the country and our party, PLS. DROP OUT NOW!

Jane   March 6th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

I am glad Howard Dean is standing his ground on this issue.

Melissa   March 6th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

I am a Michigan resident, and an Obama supporter. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton, for trying to drown out my voice and many others who wanted to vote for someone other than you. She says it is not her problem Obama's name was not on the ballot. Wow, he needs to be penalized for FOLLOWING DNC RULES. Mark my words, if the delegates are seated as they are without a do-over that will be the most undemocratic thing to ever occur. I want my voice to count too, and I want my candidate to have his share of delegates as well. Stop trying to cheat, Mrs. Senator

BS   March 6th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Hillary, you're a liar and a cheat!!! You're a polarizing phony, and must give up before the right wing wins. I can't believe you're actually paying compliments to McCain!!

Hillary, your standing in the way of a movement this country has not seen for over a century. Every day you lie, spin, and cheat to stay in this race…is another day of harm you inflict on this country!!!

Set aside your personnel ambitions!!! We all know why your running in the first place. It not for the good of the country…its for the vanity of Hillary!!

GO OBAMA!!

Rick in Boynton Beach   March 6th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

Split them 50-50. It's the only fair way to do it. Holding new elections changes the finish line which favors Hillary and only extends the race. The only fair thing to do is split them up evenly so they get seated but it favors no one. I'm a FL democrat who has been disenfranchised and I still think you can't change the rules while your in the game.

PeterO   March 6th, 2008 5:31 pm ET

The states screwed it up, the states should pay for a revote or just live with the mess they created.

Marie   March 6th, 2008 5:30 pm ET

Now she goes again… It's unbelievable how much she wants power…Please anybody could tell her to wait and see what John Edwards will decide….

Peggy   March 6th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Everybody knew the rules going in, and everyone agreed to them INCLUDING Clinton. So how can we break the rules and have them count after the fact? Doesnt make sense.

DJ, LA, CA   March 6th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

WHY??? Hasn't Florida been through enough pain, hardship, and controvery since the Gore/Bush legal feud?

Hillary is losing all credibility by insisting on changing the rules in the middle of the election to suit her cause.

Respect the rules and the DNC decision. Quit trying to be a weasel.

Rich   March 6th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Why didn't she say anything prior to it being a benefit to her?

Do we really want the Clinton Circus in the white house again? Remember the bickering and fighting back when Bill was President. And that was just between her and her husband.

But my question is, does Hillary like Cigars too?

Ryan   March 6th, 2008 5:29 pm ET

Seat the delegates as is… she didn't know that these states would even be necessary…. but she still did amazingly… don't silence millions of Americans. Obama choose not to have his name on the ballot thats his fault!

NEVEROBAMA   March 6th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

TONY/ANONYMOUS…….MAYBE OBAMA SHOULD BOW OUT.

OBAMA PEOPLE IF YOU NEED INSPIRATION GO TO CHURCH – DON'T FOLLOW AN EMPTY SUIT.

VOTE HILLARY
VOTE HILLARY
VOTE HILLARY

kathleen kennealey   March 6th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Why are we talking about this at all?

Michigan and Florida knew the consequences of breaking the DNC rules. Now they must live with those consequences.

End of discussion. Let's move on!

Kathy

AJ, IL   March 6th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

Let Hillary and Bill as well as Hillary's campaign pay for any primary do-overs! Let's see $30 million out of Hillary's $35 million will leave $5 million to campaign with over the next month! Time for another Hillary and Bill loan of $5 to $10 million!

Tlove   March 6th, 2008 5:28 pm ET

When both candidates started this race, the rules were set from the beginning. What was established from the beginning should hold until the end. It seems as if the Clinton campaign wants to change the rules too late in the game. The overall fairness of the decision was determined before the race began, its too late to change it now.
The field of play was determined before the race began. The uproar should have occurred long ago when no delegate counts were in….
It seems as if someone is trying to manipulate the race and IT WON'T WORK!

ljh   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

It takes Hillary and her dirty political tactics to play a "fair" game. If she considered Texas and Ohio was a fair win.

John   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

This is the type of drama that is not needed and which the Clintons are famous for.

Joe Smith   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Ofcourse she would want a do over in these two states. If she doesn't shy away from using the neo-con and Karl Rove's farmongering tactic then she would go to any measure to get her foot in the White House again. Even if she gets a repulican governor to help her with this endeavor. She is shameless! These two states knew from the get-go about the consequences of moving thier primaries and did it anyway, but to change the rules in the middle of the game is just not fair.

Bill   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Everyone knew the rules and Michigan and Florida voters knew prior to that date that because there state representatives changed the primary date that they would not be counted. Likely, many voters did not show for that exact reason. To have the DNC foot the bill hurts their to use that money for the general election. Crist, the possible VP candidate, obviously wants to shift the blame to the democratic party for his own personal and Republican ambitions, but this is not a good idea for Senator Clinton. This looks to further divide the Democratic party and it is asking for special treatment. Special treatment that she never mentioned until she fell well behind in the delegate count.

Democrat Supporter   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Anyone else just getting wore out over this fighting between Hillary and Barack? I think they should just settle the differences between themselves and become one.

I support Obama, but I'm finding both Obama and Hillary supports to be getting VERY annoying lately. I don't think there will be a chance for the Dems if this type of behavior continues. We obviously have two great candidates since opinions are split 50/50.

More and more I have discovered myself becoming a DEMOCRATIC supporter rather than just an Obama supporter. I think the country could use both of these two individuals in the white house. I support both of them.

Obama/ Hillary
Hillary/Obama

Either way as long as we don't get another republican in the white house….

Brian from NYC   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Win at all costs – the Clinton Moto! They do plenty to further their own causes, but nothing to further the American people's causes. That's why they won't release their Tax Forms!!!

Sue   March 6th, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Hillary will do anything to get elected. It does not matter to her that she agreed to this arrangement initially when Florida and Michigan moved their primary date after the DNC told them they could not and what the penalty would be if they did. Now she needs both states to try to get the nomination. Hillary puts herself and her ambitions above the party, the country and the people. She is disgusting.

Don   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Where were these people BEFORE the primaries? Absolutely nothing has changed to warrant now seating these delegates. The only reason we are hearing about his now is because Hillary cheated in Florida and Michigan and now she wants to be rewarded for it.

True, these voters are being "disenfranchised". But that was true the moment they decided to not seat them before the primary. Someone should have been yelling then. Now its just playing politics.

Further, seating the delegates based on bogus and skewed results disenfranchises not only the folks in Florida and Michigan who didn't vote because it didn't matter AND everyone else in the country who voted based on their states following the rules.

JOHN   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

WHY IS THE CLITTON CAMP PRESSING VERY HARD AT THIS TIME ON THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN CASE? IS SHE THE ONLY CANDIDATE IN THE ELECTION? THIS SHOWS HER INCONSISTENCY IN DECISION MAKING. SHE SHOULD BETTER LOOK FOR PLEDGED DELEGATES ELSEWHERE NOT IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. SHE IGNORED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF SMALL STATES IN THE PRIMARIES AND NOW SHE IS BEING HUNTED BY DELEGATE COUNTS. LET CONTINUE TO RELY ON THE SO CALLED "BIG STATES". SORRY IT'S TOO LATE FOR HER. THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT DELEGATES ! OBAMA HAS AGAIN SHOWN A BETTER JUDGMENT ON THE HUNT FOR DELEGATES BY CONSIDERING EVERY STATE AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER IN THE DELEGATE HUNT. THIS RACE IS ABOUT DELEGATES. WE CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONTEST.

Wallace, Sacramento   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Seriously this is ridiculous, when the rules were explained way before they even started campaigning.

Hillary supporters, how can you, in good conscience, support something like this? If we 'rig' our elections, what kind of message does that send to the rest of the world? How can we tell Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, etc. that elections should be fair when we don't believe it ourselves?

We can't be hypocrites about this.

Ken   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Who actually made the decisions and upon what authority did they rely to change the dates for the Michigan and Florida Primaries?

Republican4Obama   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

Typical Clinton ploy to change the rules when things are not going their way. Hill & Bill will stop at nothing to get back in the White House. People should look again at the video, "The Clinton Chronicles" to see what the two of them are cabable of. I'm worried.

Avery   March 6th, 2008 5:26 pm ET

No one has the delegate count…So those states should be revisited..
makes sense to me

Denial   March 6th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

All you Hillary supporters need to wake up and see that she puts the general election at great risk. Read Survey USAs recent analysis of the general election matchups and you'll see how much better Obama matches up.

fred   March 6th, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Take the total delegates from both states and split them down the middle. that way obama will get votes from Michigan because he took his name off the list and get him delegates from florida. There should at least be a re vote in Michagin if any because Barack took his name off of the ballot. And hillary wants to cheat and get the delegates from Michigan so she can win the nomination. Shame on Hillary for cheating

CMS   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

I am a registered MI voter who did not vote because my candidate was not on the ballot. To change the rules in the middle of the game, to the clear benefit of one candidate, would be appalling.

Shannon Shiflett   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

she won't play by the rules. clinton has run a dirty campaign. these are the dnc rules, hillary–you're desperate and think this might help you. too late–obama has more delegates; he will get the nomination. no more clinton's or bush's in the white house if you care about your country.

'08AMA

matt   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

if you go to vote and it s' not counted, is it fair? the leader breaks the rule not citizen over there break the rule. If De denies them, the party will be paid for that in general election.

Manuel TX   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

If these states vote that means that the superdelegates won't be the ones determining the outcome of this election.

At this point neither candidate can win without superdelegates.

I for one prefer to let the voters decide this election.

MI and FL should revote. :)

Thatcher   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

REMEMBER FOLKS:

The total number of delegates needed to secure the nomination goes up IF Michigan and Florida do get seated. The 2024 figure is 50% of the total delegates (pledged and "super") not counting those two states …

Add in MI & FL and total possible delegates becomes 4361 – with a candidate needing 2181 delegates (pledged and "super") to win the nomination.

So, in all reality – even with MI & FL, neither candidate can get to the necessary delegates without the "supers".

GDK   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

She has a new name:

She's called Hillary Huckabee…

She doesn't know how to stop!

Sara   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Clintons always make their own rules.

Liz   March 6th, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Why not issue half the delegates -that way the voters are allowed to have a voice, the states are penalized. ****Obama made the decision not to be on the ballot. Even with the delegates going to Clinton, the nominee won't be decided- it just makes it possible for one of the candidates to get to the magic number. **Unless the states and the DNC agree to another primary, and the voters want to take the time to vote again- then that is a different story- I happen to believe that if Florida and Michigan had another primary that the voters would still vote for Hillary. (NO to caucus- Obama had enough of those already) -

Kathy from Michigan   March 6th, 2008 5:23 pm ET

This is too easy, NO FOLLOW THE RULES AND WIN BY THE RULES. IF SHE STEALS THE NOMINATION THIS WAY, I'LL VOTE FOR NADER OR MCCAIN.

JC   March 6th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Hillary didn't make a PEEP about this BEFORE the elections were held. She knew the rules and so did the voters. She even signed to it!

IS THIS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM HILLARY? ALWAYS GOING BACK ON HER WORD AND PROMISES.

Tre   March 6th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Why not restart the election Hillary? I'm pretty sure that the early contests could have also benefited John Edwards, in fact, in a state like Michigan, he might have won, and if he won some votes in Florida as well, would he have dropped out of the race? The rules are for all participants lady, not just you. Believe me, if it we're the other way around, Bill Clinton would by crying hypocrisy by calling their acceptance a sham.

And you Hillary supporters are like the kid no one wants to play with, cause even when your losing, you still talk crap.

It's annoying. Learn how to win, or do your math…. the same people who budget their money so that they can invest in lottery tickets I presume…. Your idiocy is our true tax on America.

Obama 08 for Education PLEASE!!

George T   March 6th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Florida should count! All candidates were represented and FL pays taxes like the rest of us.

Now Michigan is a different story as Obama WASN't on the ballot–it just wouldn't be fair. Sorry Michigan, you guys should have gotten your ballot right the first time.

Yes to FL, NO to Michigan.

ross   March 6th, 2008 5:22 pm ET

If you ask any teacher, rules are like laws. Without them, you have choas. Everyone knew the rules coming in, and some Michigan and Florida officials broke them. They are silenced their voters. Not the DNC.

Dan   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Florida & Michigan's democratic leadership GAVE UP their delegates; they WERE NOT taken away. By choosing to violate party rules, they forfeited their votes. It should be plain & simple; but, for HIllary, clear logic, rules and issues of right-and-wrong apparently only apply when it's to her advantage. Would the next few states PLEASE dump her out on her ear…this is getting old, and the general election isn't even underway, yet. It would be "nice" for the states to get their delegates back, but at this point, lie in the bed you made! Don't like it? Take it up with YOUR state's democratic leadership, who broke the rules, eyes wide open.

Bryan NZ   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

Compromise – disqualify both states superdelegates (who are the ones to blame), seat the Florida primary delegates (where both candidates were on the ballot), & re-run Michigan caucuses (fraction of the cost of primaries). Not perfect, but about equally unfair to all.

4Hillary   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

I AGREE. FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN SHOULD HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD!!

DNC ~ You must seat Michigan and Florida.

If not, you might as well let the GOP win in NOV!!

Madame President Hillary, Thank you for speaking up for MI and FL.

Mike G   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

the Republicans will be laughing once again to the White House not due to their abilities. Has the DNC thought of how much money will be wasted by the candidates in having a re-do which could be used in the general election?

Millions of Americans have come over to the Democratic Party and this is what they get…strong arming from the Clintons within their own, new party…

Mike from Calgary   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

The FLorida and Michigan players are ineligible, therefore a majority of the eligible delegates is now 1842 rather than 2024. Obama needs about 315 more to win. If all 50 states agree to redo the whole process, rebate to Obama and Clinto all of their expenses in the order of $200M , and to allow all contenders including Edwards to run, and to pay all primary & caucus costs thrown away and all litigation costs, and if Hillary & Obama & others agree to renege on their agreements, then the whole campaign should be repeated. Otherwise, a majoity of 1842 Seats wins the nomination.
Mike

HG   March 6th, 2008 5:21 pm ET

COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN LIE LIE LIE!!!!!!!!!

Oh Hillary give up you are done. You could never catch up in the math. I would NEVER vote for you. You are destroying this party. Barack has run an outstanding campaign while you ran like a typical cheater.

D.Kimbro OHIO   March 6th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Bill W. EXCELLENT points, it also is worth mention that these two states also agreed over a year and 1/2 ago to abide by the rules. I feel for these voters who done nothing wrong. However, you anger is mis-placed start with your officials, who disregarded the rules. The Clintons continue to distort and manipulate issues, Hillary knew she wouldnt be able to justify this. So now she is fighting for the rights of the people in Florida, and Michigan. Give me a break. What con artist these folks are. The truth will come out on them both.

Concerned Citizen   March 6th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

The voters in Florida and Michigan have a right to have their votes counted…anything less is simply unAmerican. Whatever they choose to come up with, the DNC needs to figure it out quickly.

It isn't the voter's fault that their state leaders went against national party leadership, so the DNC needs to work with those leaders to come up with a solution. The voters have every right to have their vote count…no matter WHEN they cast it. Otherwise, neither candidate will have an honest majority and the entire process will be seen as being corrupt.

Either there is a re-vote or the vote stands as is…the Florida and Michigan delegations can not simply be ignored.

Amy, Ohio   March 6th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

Hillary, where were you when all these rules were decided? You were not an "advocate" for voters then, because at the time, you didn't think you would need Florida or Michigan. You thought you had it in the bag. I watched your interview with Katie Couric. When asked about if you thought about what it might be like to not get the nomination you answered, (and I quote) "It will be me." Remember that?? Yeah…you are really worried about all those disenfranchised voters…please….you just want the delegates now that you need them.

Kevin Niles   March 6th, 2008 5:20 pm ET

I wish some one in the democrat party tell hillary to give it up! She's only splitting the party!

She using the feminist & racist to split the party to further her own selfish goals! Rather than who's best to beat Mccain!

Now only because she's losing she wants MI and Florida delegates to be seated even though they agreed not to be counted. MI & FL are broke & in a recession they don't have the money! So give it up!

Garba   March 6th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Nice. This reminds me of my childhood days when bullies use to change the rules of the game if they felt they were losing.

A vote is a fundamental right of people in FL and MI. No argument there. However the rules are the rules and the good folks in those two states should make the people responsible for moving the date forward pay by removing them from office come next election cycle.

I can just about guarantee you that if the Clinton Duo wrestle this thing away from Obama, his supporters are going to raise hell like they have never seen and she will lose the presidency. We will abandon the party go independent with Barack leading.

Shane, Dallas, TX   March 6th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

What are the Obama supporters afraid of? Yes, these states violated the rules, but don't punish the voters! Their voices need to be heard, especially in a race this close. We cannot unite the democratic party unless these states have a say. If they aren't allowed representation, whoever loses this primary season will question if their loss and their opponent's win is really a true representation and will of the US as a whole. For democracy to work, all people need a voice.

Thank you Hillary!

Ruben Guzman   March 6th, 2008 5:19 pm ET

There is no question here. The voting was done, already. The people have spoken. If the Candidates failed to put his names of on the ballot, so be it…..you get the votes you deserve. The Vote stands, and a re-vote is not needed. Otherwise the Clinton group will start wanting re-votes when they don't like the outcome. Getting the your name in the ballot is Politics 101, and to the Obama group that is called political experience…..! Dollar-wise and experience-foolish is what we see here. Let the vote stand as is,….the Voters were given thier choices and they have spoken…!

pat callahan   March 6th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

just shows they are all the same. change the rules as they go along.they all make me sick.

clare   March 6th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

Count Florida and Michigan. The decision to void thier votes is ridiculous and anti-democratic.

whoever wanted to do their civic duty and vote voted. COUNT THEM IN

Bayou Joe   March 6th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

The republicans got it right the first time. That is leadership folks.
They also got it right in ousting Saddam Hussein and preventing
Al Qaeda from setting up bases in Iraq. Bush may not be the brightest crayon in the Box., but he has protected our country since 9/11. Texas and Ohio got it right too. Hillary or McCain will do, but not Obama.

Chris in CO   March 6th, 2008 5:18 pm ET

The magic number of 2025 was determined without any delegates from FL or MI. If those delegates are now added, then the 2025 number goes to 2208. You cannot keep the number at 2025 if you now include additional delegates.

Will someone please tell Shrillary that if she wants to add these delegates then the number required to secure the nomination also goes up. My guess is that her concern for the good citizens of FL and MI will dissapate when she figures out that she cannot add these delegates without changing the magis number.

Jack R.   March 6th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Florida and MIchigan met with the DNC a year and a half ago. They agreed and voted on the rules. They went against party rules and expect to be seated? No way. They should not be seated at the convention and the DNC should not fund the do-over in the event they have one. The republicans have a nominee. The DNC should now be focused on electing a Democrat as president. Florida and Michigan… you made your bed now sleep in it.

the good nurse   March 6th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Here we go. This is not fair. If the shoe were on the other foot we all know that Hillary would be first in line to protest seating those delegates! The Dems better be very careful…

MANDY   March 6th, 2008 5:17 pm ET

Interestingly, the voters who went to the polls were told that their votes would not count. Many voters went home WITHOUT voting!

And Michigan HAS to put Obama on a ballot…instead of the Cuban way of just haveing Hillary.

Oh, I forgot…the Michigan governor is a Clinton supporter!

Carol in Houston TX   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

HRC should gather a group of children that she wants to lead and explain to them why "rules do not matter". During this election year students are getting involved in the political process, learning about parties, caucus etc., when HRC began to her campaign she, along with the governors of these states, agreed with also to "comply" with the rules now when it benefits her (supposedly) all of a sudden she is worried about "disenfranchised" voters of these states.

While campaigning please explain why "rules do not matter" to the children.

Byron in CA   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Funny how the media is trying to make the connection of how negative press toward Mr. Obama could have made an impact in the elections on March 4th, but still fail to go further to the connection of how they've affected the perception of Hillary and her campaign over the last 3 months with a constant barrage of negative media toward her.

What is equally as strange is how now it is accepted/encouraged by the media and seems to be the strategy when Mr. Obama goes negative in his campaign, which they and the media have been very critical of Hillary for supposedly doing.

The double standard still exist

Ken   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Please undertake to do a story or post the names of the Democractic Party Officials in Florida and Michigan who took it upon themselves to ignore the direction and rules of the Democractic Nationial Party and who authorized an alternative date for the Michigan and Florida Primaries to be held. I belive a complete disclosure of the evidence surrounding this issue is required. Everyone knows that in elections and in society in general the rule of law must be adhered to and the democractic officials responsible for disenfranchizing Michigan and Florida voters need to be held accountable. Transparency is required here, not more back room dealings.

Decline to State - San Francisco   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

You can't rewind the clock (or just smash it as Clinton would have them do). What about Edwards and the others who were still in the race when Michigan and Florida had their ill-fated primaries? What if one of them had done well in one or both states. Would momentum have swung some other way? Would we now be looking at a different race than we are now? Who knows? The fact is that those states knew (and their voters should have known) that the DNC was going to ding them for breaking the rules. Sleep inthe bed you made, Florida and Michigan.

CHERYL   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

GO SENATOR CLINTON!

OBAMAS 55 MILLION DID NOT DO HIM MUCH GOOD DID IT!

YOU WILL WIN THE NOMINATION!

BORACK HAS TOO MANY SKELETONS!

HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED!!!!!!

VOTE HILLARY CLINTON 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deb in Dallas   March 6th, 2008 5:16 pm ET

Hillary wants to win – and like a 5 year old-she changes the rules to suit her. rules is rules lady!

BigAce   March 6th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

More double speak from the Clinton campaign. When you are loosing fair and square, you want to change the rules in the middle of the game.

I'm a Floridian, and I do want my vote to count. So Hillary, or your supporters, at this late date, how will the delegates be seated? Who's going to pay for a re-vote? When will it occur?

You should'nt pledge to play by the rules and when you see that you are loosing, then look to change those very rules that you pledged to follow.

Can someone say Flip-Flopper?

Martin   March 6th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

We now see what kind of President Hillary will make. An agreement with her wouldn't be worth used toilet paper. She is running around screaming , "experience". Experience in what? To not abide by what one agreed to? Is this who we want as leader of this country? She's no differant from whom she wants to replace. Bush. Both are lawless in their dealings. God help us if she becomes President. No integrity period.

Mildred   March 6th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Hillary want they vote. Here we go again.

Lydia   March 6th, 2008 5:15 pm ET

typical Clinton double speak

Tmll   March 6th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Of course she does. Change the rules, break the rules, whenEVER
its convenient. Win at all cost Hillary. It is sad that after both states
of Michigan and Florida were officially told they had broken the rules, they still went ahead and had all those citizens go and vote. Did the states leaders tell them their votes were null and void before these people made the trek to vote? This whole think stinks to high Heaven and is worse than the chads fiasco in Florida. Clever though. Whoever backroomed this baby has money in the Cayman's!

LA   March 6th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

IT DIDN' T DO HIM ANY GOOD EXCEPT IN VERMONT.

larry from minnesota   March 6th, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Despite all the tricks, in our country everyone should be allowed to have a vote. I don't think there is any other option than to allow Florida and Michigan to vote again. I am unimpressed by Hillary's campaigning in both states and keeping her name on the ballot when the DNC had disallowed the earlier primary. Now, of course, people in Michigan and Florida will be more favorable to her because of her disregard of the DNC's discipline.

Chris - Moreno Valley, Ca   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Well here she goes again, crying because she is behind in the delegate count and knows that there is no way she can catch Obama, no matter how you do the math, neither one of them will have enough, she and all of the other democrats voted for the DNC rules and now she wants to change them because they will most likely benefit her campaign, I don't think she'll be able to change the rules of the world at 3am if (and she won't) she becomes president, stick to the rules of the game Hiliary and lose graciously and save the Clinton name from humiliation, if she becomes the nominee you can guarantee there will be a lot of Dems voting Republican this year not to mention Independants and we will have another four years of Bush-enomics with McCain, can you say recession

Xavier, Washington, DC   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Whah, whah. I can't win playing by the rules so let's change them.

Paul   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Obama should unite the party by admitting that he is not ready to lead our nation

Hillary will be our Nominee,

Obama should start investing an equal ammount of money on his campaign . It will show America that without double spending he cannot cause a significant impact in those people, including me who understand that he is simply not ready to lead our nation.
Hillary can make a great difference and Obama could be a potential good Vice President. Obama can learn as a VP and eventually become our President.

This election is not about race , gender or SES, it is about the future of our loved nation.

Live to America and

Hillary for President!!!

Hillary 08- President of the United States of America

Ronald, American living abroad   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Why is Hillary starting a war with the DNC over FL and MI? This is a wag-the-dog diversion to make people forget that she has not released her tax returns, that she is involved in a California lawsuit over illegal campaign contributions, that her campaign was responsbile for the Canada NAFTA-gate leak. What is Hillary trying to hide by changing the subject?

Why is CNN so derelict on updating all the superdelegates who have endorsed Obama today?

Pat M Canada   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

"You Know" to coin a phrase. I think that America should go to the drawing board and design a hard and fast never to change document on "The Rules for Presidential Elections in America for All States."

This is definitely the stuff that movies are made from !

Here's an idea…. Let the citizens all over America vote for their Candidate of Choice all on the Same Day ! Each State counts their votes, records them and the one with highest number of votes wins!
Very elementary….then if the Candidates want Delegates and Super Delegates….Have that vote separate…add up who got the most Delegates add that number to the number of the Dem and Repub with the winning number of votes in the Citizens election and the Candidate with the hightest total wins!

Richard   March 6th, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Even though I do not support Clinton, Obama or McCain I find Hillary's recent tactics against Obama quite disgusting. The Florida and Michigan Democratic Party officials broke the rules that THEY AGREED UPON and now cry fowl. Fair is fair. If they want to have a revote after every state (including Puerto Rico) have voted then that seems somewhat fair.

Tonya   March 6th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

You can't change the rules in the middle of the game just to suit you!! What's fair about that? If they do this and she wins the nomination a lot of people won't vote and we'll just suffer through 4 more years of Republican leadership!

Bill   March 6th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Obviously there is no way they can use the results of the primaries; Obama didn't campaign in those states and wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. That would be totally unfair.

And really, should Florida even be allowed to vote anymore. I mean, first the hanging chads, and now this?

Jim   March 6th, 2008 5:12 pm ET

Of course she wants the delegates seated. She won Michigan because she was the only person on the ballot. She won florida because nobody else campaigned there. she wants them seated because she knows that is the only way she even has a prayer of winning the nomination. The lesson folks is this: If at first you don't succeed….Cheat!!!!

Jason, San Diego   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

It's funny how Hillary was so much less concerned about all this when she had Super Tuesday set in her head as the day she'd take the nomination. It's also interesting that after formally agreeing not to campaign in those states, Hillary did exactly that. Everyone–the states themselves, the DNC, everyone–agreed that Michigan and Florida were going to lose their delegates. I, for one, just can't trust her…I want to, but she constantly puts her own ambition over the good of the United States. I guess her "35 years" (yeah, right) experience have taught her one thing: lie and cheat and steal…Washington style!

Obama '08!

John Burger   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Seems to me if the Democratic Party wanted to end this fight they could do so today…

Solution: John Edwards and his 23 pledged delgates

If John would come out and endorse Barack Obama, his lead would be that much larger, and it would allow cover for super delegates to go to his side….then they could put him over the top.

This would be well within the rules and be fair.

Nobody is reporting this angle…John Edwards holds the key from keeping the Democrats from tearing the party apart…and it is the responsible thing to do….standing aside is standing for the Republicans.

Florida and Michigan would be side stories…

April in Texas   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Sorry the rules shouldnt change just because it may favor one candidate over another. All parties agreed they would not count. If anything maybe a re-do vote but the states should be responsibel and nt the DNC. Dean stay strong for the strength of the democratic party.

Mad in Texas   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Right on Hillary. No vote or delegate should not be counted. I don't know what's wrong with the Democrat national party to have come up with such a mess. They should let the state decide when to have primarys and NO CACUSES. All delegates should got to the winner of that state like the Republicans. Listen to me DEAN most of the Democrats out here that matter want MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA votes to count. There is no need for a recount. To bad the Whiner didn't put his name on the ballot in Michigan he sure advertised in Florida and his name was on the ballot. Too bad he got smoked. HILLARY 08

JR   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

I agree the delegates must be seated. The best way to this is to divide the delegates evenly between the candidates (183 each). This would eliminate the need for a redo and would be fair to both parties. Not cost anything. No candidate should get more than the other since this was not a legal election, but it would respect the people and grant them their delegates. Also if this is done, There will be less reliance on the superdelegates.

Kevin   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Obama supporters how young and naive you are !

Can't win the election without florida or ohio. Simple fact !!!!

Obama won't win Fl, Hillary proved that he won't win Ohio.

Besides once the Resko trial drops the O bomb he's finished

Bye Bye Barack. Hope all you young people that sent him money which you couldn't afford to send get a refund!!

rightsaid   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Those delegates cannot be seated unless there is a re-vote. And a re-vote would be a fine idea, so long as the states pony up and pay the tab. Consider it a lesson learned.

But it will not matter. Obama is going to have more pledged delegates, especially since he WON Texas on Tuesday. Barring some strange wrangling, he will be the nominee. HRC's recent rants, especially inferring that her would be opponent McCain would make a better president than Obama and trying to count Florida and Michigan as wins, show that she and her camp will indeed say anything to get elected. I for one think that is scary. Much more scary than 3am calls. . . .

Obama 2008!

Louis   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

The delegates should not be seated unless they have a real primary or caucus. and it is not that you are telling 2 million voters in Florida that they don't count, you are telling the other 3 million that didn't vote because they knew the primary was bogus.

Army Vet   March 6th, 2008 5:11 pm ET

please Go away Hillary….Don't start changing the rules because you can't get the delegates needed to beat Obama. The people have spoken! DROP OUT NOW!

obama 08

Nadeem   March 6th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

What a joke.

I can't win without chaging the rules, so lets change the rules that i agreed to. Forget that i agreed, now that i am loosing change the rules and include them, but dont do a caucus because that doens not work for me.

Mary C   March 6th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Hillary is trying to destroy the democratic party. I as one democrat will vote for McCain if she is the democratic nominee. She is shameless. I would like to remind her that Ohio put Bush back in office and now they hate him. Ohio is no measure of how this nation goes. So goes Ohio, so goes the economy.

Kim   March 6th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

She's a fraud!!! She will do anything to win — including this unethical and unfair stunt!

Dan Hussein Smith, TX   March 6th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

I think these two states need to vote again. Let me suggest May 31 to give both candidates time to campaign.

As an Obama supporter I strongly look forward to a fair contest in MI and FL.

Chet M   March 6th, 2008 5:10 pm ET

There is no question in my mind that a repeat primary or a caucus needs to be staged, particularly in my home state of Michigan.

I realize that this will entail spending some money, but so be it.

Many of us, because of the fact that Obama was NOT on the ballet 1) stayed home – the weather being crummy, as usual – 2)voted 'uncommitted' or 3) crossed over and voted against the Republican we liked least. In no way does this represent the true wishes of many of the state's Democratic or independant voters. Furthermore at the time, the democratic national committee made it apinfully clear that the results would not count, going so far as to cancle the hotel reservations of our delegation.

If neither candidate gets the majority of the pledged delegates, then rather than have it decided by some 'backroom deal' amongst the super delegates, something that would hurt the party in the general election, run the primaries here. Michigan is quite representative of the United States in terms of diversity of population.

gary   March 6th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

i think florida should be seated. michigan needs to revote as not all were on the ticket

barry   March 6th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

democracy means everyone has a voice. count the votes… otherwise,
democrats may go join Lou Dobbs or support McCain

Randy - Denver   March 6th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

What would be best is for the rules, as established AND AGREED TO were followed, pure and simple, the democratic parties of Fl and MI tried to increase their importance by moving up their primariew against the wishes of the DNC (who choose HOW their representative is selected, there is no Right to vote for a party selection). Theoir bid for power failed pure and simple, the citizens of both states ahd plenty of time to call and fight their local prties to change the dates, they did not so they lose out. Other states tried the same thing when told what the punishment would be by the DNC they managed to change their dates so quit harping on this issue it is over and dead the states gambled they lost pure and simple. If those in those two states do not like it change your party leaders next chance you get. Hillary is only trying to turn attention from her loss in Texas and the fact she has gained less delegates after her "Great Win" then Mr. Obama will gain in Mississippi

MexAm   March 6th, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Dean talks out of both sides of his mouth. He wants Fla and Mi to follow the rules. so no revote, no seating of the delgates. But if the people want a redo, then the taxpayers of Fla and Mi. have to pay for it.
So he is ok with it if someone else pays for it. Nice going Mr. Democrat. Eat your cake and eat it too. This way the DNC does not get blamed for denying the vote to Fla and Mi.

Why don't we just stop voting and you can put up Obama for President would that work for you. Then we can get down to the nitty gritty of electing a President. and save everyone the money and time.

DEMOCRACY IN ACTION.

Jack from WV   March 6th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

This just bewilders me how two States, Florida and Michigan who knew as well as the other States when their primaries were suppose to be held, yet on their own decided to hold them early knowing that there was going to be problems. Now since it didn’t work out Mr. Dean understands that without those votes counting the possibility of going to the Nation Convention without a clear winner is almost impossible he is open for suggestions. Give me a break. I have children and I have told them that if you make a decision and a bad one you must suffer the consequences, and so must Florida and Michigan.
I know that since this race is heating up once again and the possibility of either Obama or Clinton bowing out is just not plausible, Mr. Dean will have to come to some sort of compromise. Either way it’s wrong these States should suffer the consequences.

CA boomer for CHANGE   March 6th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Of course she would do that… her win at all costs mentality has absolutely nothing to do with her concern for the voters of Florida and Michigan. Can this be any more obvious?

Willis   March 6th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

WE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION!

THE MEDIA SEEM TO JUMP ON WHATEVER CAMP HILLARY TALKS ABOUT.

THE PEOPLE OF THOSE STATES SHOULD BE GATHERING TO VOTE THEIR GOVERNORS OUT OF OFFICE SINCE THEY CREATED THIS MESS! THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THE DNC; BUT WITH THE GOVERNORS!!

FLORIDA SCREWED AL GORE AND NOW THEY WANT TO SCREW OBAMA!

I SAY NO!

Sabrina, Las Vegas, NV   March 6th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Is it just me, or does anyone else think the leaders of those 2 states are in the Clintons pockets

Kevin, Louisville, Ky   March 6th, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Clinton …is NAFTAgate

tim b   March 6th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

All Democrats, the media, and the general public should be absolutely disgusted about Hillary Clinton's attempts to break the DNC's own rules and get Florida and Michigan delegates seated. Little kids on the backyard baseball field know how to follow their own rules better than does Hillary Clinton.

Her "win at all costs" attitude, sacrificing truth, integrity, honor, and her own party's rules is the exactly the type of Washington thinking that got us into the trouble we're in today, and exactly the type of questionable character that America does not want to see in our next president.

Abner   March 6th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

If the reason we are in the middle of this predicament was due to Michigan and Florida voters’ fault, then I would say that they should deal with the consequences of their actions. However, it was not vote's actions that caused them to have their votes not counted. It was the DNC’s, who threatened to impose simply UNENFORCEABLE RULES. How does the DNC expect the Michigan and Florida voters feel come November after they learn that the Democratic Party does not consider their votes worth to be counted? If those votes are not counted today, they will surely not be for the Democratic candidate in the general election. Can the democrats afford that?

Bill W   March 6th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Typical Clinton, anything to win. She agreed to the rules. Now she wants to change the rules she agreed to.

Obama was not on the ballot. Many people did not vote, because they were told the vote wouldn't count. Also, there were other candidates still in the race when those states voted. If we let the vote again, then we need to let all the other states re-vote, where people voted for Edwards or another candidate who is no longer running. The vote in those states is NOT legitimate. It cannot be counted.

PLUS, I am in PA. We vote last. I do not think it would be right for Florida and Michigan's votes to be moved so they are now after PA. Election after election, PA does not get to vote while the races are meaningful. Now we have a close election, and we here in PA are supposed to decide it. Florida and Michigan should not vote after us, that just is not right.

Tony   March 6th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Hilary is just looking for another way to win. Despite agreeing initially, for Florida and Michigan to be penalised.

Anonymous   March 6th, 2008 5:07 pm ET

OH Hilary, give up already.

Len   March 6th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Another Clinton flip-flop.

Rules seem to be for everone except them.

I hope they destroy the DNC.

pal   March 6th, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Hillary is the only candidate who broke the DNC's rules. In fact this should disqualify her. Florida and Michigan are the ones who ignored DNC's rules. This could go to the court.

Jessica, MI   March 6th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Just background info: Hillary is good friends with our (MI) governor, Jennifer Granholm. Granholm has been promised a spot in a Hillary presidential administration. The MI primary date switch has been suspect and ill-timed from the start. Hillary left her name on the ballot after giving other candidates the impression she would withdraw.

Hillary's trying to steal this election. Be wary.

Angela   March 6th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Nearly 1.7 million votes were cast in Florida for the democrats. 3 viable candidates were on the ballot and Senator Clinton won with 50% of the vote.
Why shouldn't that count. No democrat campaigned in Florida – except one could argue Obama due to his crossover ads.

The turnout in Michigan was less, granted. But you can't really argue that only one name was on the ballot. If Senator Clinton won 98% then fair enough.
But she won 55% – the remainder were 'uncommitted' which would be the people who didn't want to vote for her, or the ones who were for Obama or Edwards.
No one forced a voter to vote for her. No one campaigned there.

Why shouldn't those count?

A do-over would be tainted and expensive. Not counting the votes is not an option. Why not split them in half (as the Republicans did) and award them porportionately?

Michagan is tilted in Clinton's favor as her 'name' was the only one on the ballot (I am sure people knew who the other candidates were)
Florida is tilted in Obama's favor as the had ads running and she did not.

CNN – I am a little discouraged about how may postings are here with people complaining that their opinions are NOT being posted.

If you don't want to know what people are thinking then don't ask. But you are asking so give everyone a voice – even if you don't agree with it…

JC   March 6th, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Hey Hillary, guess what? You LOST TEXAS!
After the caucus comes in, Barack has more delegates that you….still. I also did the math today, and there is know way you can beat him.
Just thought you should known so you can start packing your bags to when Obama appoints you somewhere in Narnia.

Bob Miller   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

This is a sad ploy by the Clinton campaign. Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan!

Florida and Michigan broke the rules and are paying the price. Clinton should not be able to gain a benefit from allowing states to break the rules.

Mike A   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

it Fla and Mich delagates counted clinton would be in the lead now but even in a do over she will still win. she has won all the big states so what do that say about obama? he only winning states that are going to go red in Nov. he doesnt have a chance against McCain

mandie   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Does anyone not see the obvious with Senator Clinton? She obviously beleives by re-doing Michigan and Florida that that will be the deciding factor in "her" nomination. And please does anyone really think that McCain, Obama, or Clinton would make a good President? If you do then obviously you've been caught up in the hype and not looking at their track records. None of them has what I want in the leader in our nation. Thats why I voted for Mitt.

M Allen   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

This is HILLARIOUS!

Would she even care about them if OBAMA had won FL and MI?

NO MATTER WHAT – OBAMA will be on the DEM Ticket :) .

James   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Anything to win…typical Clinton. Go away already!

Erin, NY, NY   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

again i will say, those disenfranchised voters in Michigan and Florida should take up their complaints with their own state's democratic parties, and not the National Committee. there were specific rules set out from the start and those rules were broken. one should not be rewarded for unfair play. sorry FL and MI, come out again in four years. bottom line…

Hans (Atlanta)   March 6th, 2008 5:04 pm ET

She knew the rules and even may have cheated them by holding "Fund Raisings" in Florida when they were not suppose to campaign in either state. A re-do would be fair if both canidates are given ample time to prepare and campaign properly prior to the voting. Hillary wouldn't be pushing the issue if Obama had won thsoe states.

anonymous   March 6th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Thank you Hillary. You're the best. You are probably the only person who understands that if Florida and Michigan are not seated at the convention, then we will not see white house for years to come because all of the voters would go for McCain. HILLARY '08 ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!! HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY!

Perry Flair   March 6th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Shame on you, Senator Clinton.

It is un-American and un-democratic to have an primary election where the candidates are not allowed to campaign.

Bill Clinton could have never won primaries in 1992 if he wasn't allowed to campaign because he was the obscure governor of a small state and most Americans had never heard of him.

Michigan and Florida lawmakers who voted to have a January primary should all lose their jobs for creating all this havoc.

Proud American   March 6th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Wow… Hillary wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. It doesnt matter what happens cause cheaters never prosper.
Obama '08

A WOMAN   March 6th, 2008 5:03 pm ET

You go girl!

Charlotte   March 6th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

This whole issue is a major distraction. I cannot see these states having the last say in this election. That would reward them both for changing their primaries. Any re-do should have to occur before the last one in June.

paustinx   March 6th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Another example of going back on words when all candidates agreed not to campaign in Michigan and Florida. Shows scant regard for agreed upon rules. How can she even claim these states as victories when everyone knows that the results are meaningless.

Sara   March 6th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Business as usual for Clinton. By hook or by crook, She feels she is owed the White House. Please go away.

Michelle   March 6th, 2008 5:02 pm ET

Good call DNC. Florida and Michigan broke the rules. If they want another primary caucas, they should pay for it themselves. We are in an election for the president of the United States, and they should put their money behind the candidate who gets the nomination.

Ed K.   March 6th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

These states must have their vote counted. We need these people come the general election.

Margie Miller   March 6th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

The problem with letting Michigan and Florida redo their primary is that it would set a bad precedent. I can just see other states pull the same stunt and try to go it on their own if they get away with it.

PDC   March 6th, 2008 5:01 pm ET

There’s nothing like being an honest competitor, eh Hillary?

Democrats, if you want 8 more years of lies, and scandal, and missing emails, and general nonsence, then by all means vote Hillary.

Brian   March 6th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Obama needs to advocate for this too, because it's inevitable, and if he doesn't then he will lose both states.

Jon   March 6th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Do you want more cheese with that whine, Hillary?

Hm, funny. You weren't complaining back when you agreed that no delegates would be seated from Michigan and Florida. Is that because back then you were winning?

LatinoNation   March 6th, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Well Maybe Sen Obama would rather the Floridians vote for McCain if we dont allow the voices to be heard ?

Darth Vadik, CA   March 6th, 2008 4:59 pm ET

Re-vote YES

Seat NO

Karie   March 6th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Surprise. The rules do not apply to the Clinton's.

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