March 6th, 2008
08:00 PM ET
6 years ago

Clinton repeats calls to seat Florida and Michigan

CNN

Watch Clinton's comments Thursday.

(CNN) Hillary Clinton repeated Thursday that delegates from Florida and Michigan be seated at the Democratic Party’s national convention this summer, and appeared to suggest she is open to the possibility of holding do-over contests in both states.

"I'm going to let the leadership of both states see what they think is the best approach," Clinton told reporters in Washington. "I think that it would be a grave disservice to the voters of Florida and Michigan to adopt any process that would disenfranchise anyone and I'm still committed to seating their delegations and I know that they're working with the Democratic party to determine how best to proceed."

Clinton's latest calls for the delegations to be seated come amid an increasingly heated back-and-forth between officials from both states and the national parties. Both the Republicans and Democrats sanctioned both states earlier this year for holding their primaries ahead of February 5 - the Democrats said Michigan and Florida's entire delegations would not be seated at the convention while the Republicans said only half of each state's delegates could be seated.

The Democrats’ decision on how to proceed with both states' delegates could have critical impact on the presidential nominating race - both Barack Obama and Clinton are locked in close contest for pledged delegates, and neither will be able to attain the needed 2,024 to clinch the nomination.

Obama's campaign has criticized Clinton for seeking to "change the rules" after Florida and Michigan voted, and said it will follow the party's leadership on the issue. Clinton came out on top of both states' meaningless contests in January. Neither candidate campaigned in the states, and Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan.

Clinton's comments come the same day Florida Sen. Bill Nelson, a supporter of the New York senator, formally wrote a letter to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, calling on him to pay for a re-vote in his state. (Read Nelson's Letter [PDF])

“With two outstanding candidates battling so closely for their party’s nomination, there’s no way you can tell nearly two million Florida voters they don’t count," he said.

Dean has said the party will not pay for do-over contests.

"[The DNC's] job now is to elect the President of the United States and we're not going to have the resources to run a primary in Michigan or Florida," Dean said on CNN's American Morning Thursday. "So we hope they can comply with the rules, but they're going to have to figure out how to pay for it."

Related: Florida Gov Charlie Crist discusses the potential of a second primary

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

soundoff (329 Responses)
  1. Tre

    Why not restart the election Hillary? I'm pretty sure that the early contests could have also benefited John Edwards, in fact, in a state like Michigan, he might have won, and if he won some votes in Florida as well, would he have dropped out of the race? The rules are for all participants lady, not just you. Believe me, if it we're the other way around, Bill Clinton would by crying hypocrisy by calling their acceptance a sham.

    And you Hillary supporters are like the kid no one wants to play with, cause even when your losing, you still talk crap.

    It's annoying. Learn how to win, or do your math.... the same people who budget their money so that they can invest in lottery tickets I presume.... Your idiocy is our true tax on America.

    Obama 08 for Education PLEASE!!

    March 6, 2008 05:22 pm at 5:22 pm |
  2. JC

    Hillary didn't make a PEEP about this BEFORE the elections were held. She knew the rules and so did the voters. She even signed to it!

    IS THIS WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FROM HILLARY? ALWAYS GOING BACK ON HER WORD AND PROMISES.

    March 6, 2008 05:22 pm at 5:22 pm |
  3. Kathy from Michigan

    This is too easy, NO FOLLOW THE RULES AND WIN BY THE RULES. IF SHE STEALS THE NOMINATION THIS WAY, I'LL VOTE FOR NADER OR MCCAIN.

    March 6, 2008 05:23 pm at 5:23 pm |
  4. Liz

    Why not issue half the delegates -that way the voters are allowed to have a voice, the states are penalized. ****Obama made the decision not to be on the ballot. Even with the delegates going to Clinton, the nominee won't be decided- it just makes it possible for one of the candidates to get to the magic number. **Unless the states and the DNC agree to another primary, and the voters want to take the time to vote again- then that is a different story- I happen to believe that if Florida and Michigan had another primary that the voters would still vote for Hillary. (NO to caucus- Obama had enough of those already) -

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  5. Sara

    Clintons always make their own rules.

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  6. GDK

    She has a new name:

    She's called Hillary Huckabee...

    She doesn't know how to stop!

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  7. Thatcher

    REMEMBER FOLKS:

    The total number of delegates needed to secure the nomination goes up IF Michigan and Florida do get seated. The 2024 figure is 50% of the total delegates (pledged and "super") not counting those two states ...

    Add in MI & FL and total possible delegates becomes 4361 – with a candidate needing 2181 delegates (pledged and "super") to win the nomination.

    So, in all reality – even with MI & FL, neither candidate can get to the necessary delegates without the "supers".

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  8. Manuel TX

    If these states vote that means that the superdelegates won't be the ones determining the outcome of this election.

    At this point neither candidate can win without superdelegates.

    I for one prefer to let the voters decide this election.

    MI and FL should revote. :)

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  9. matt

    if you go to vote and it s' not counted, is it fair? the leader breaks the rule not citizen over there break the rule. If De denies them, the party will be paid for that in general election.

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  10. Shannon Shiflett

    she won't play by the rules. clinton has run a dirty campaign. these are the dnc rules, hillary–you're desperate and think this might help you. too late–obama has more delegates; he will get the nomination. no more clinton's or bush's in the white house if you care about your country.

    '08AMA

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  11. CMS

    I am a registered MI voter who did not vote because my candidate was not on the ballot. To change the rules in the middle of the game, to the clear benefit of one candidate, would be appalling.

    March 6, 2008 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  12. fred

    Take the total delegates from both states and split them down the middle. that way obama will get votes from Michigan because he took his name off the list and get him delegates from florida. There should at least be a re vote in Michagin if any because Barack took his name off of the ballot. And hillary wants to cheat and get the delegates from Michigan so she can win the nomination. Shame on Hillary for cheating

    March 6, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  13. Denial

    All you Hillary supporters need to wake up and see that she puts the general election at great risk. Read Survey USAs recent analysis of the general election matchups and you'll see how much better Obama matches up.

    March 6, 2008 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  14. Avery

    No one has the delegate count...So those states should be revisited..
    makes sense to me

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  15. Republican4Obama

    Typical Clinton ploy to change the rules when things are not going their way. Hill & Bill will stop at nothing to get back in the White House. People should look again at the video, "The Clinton Chronicles" to see what the two of them are cabable of. I'm worried.

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  16. Ken

    Who actually made the decisions and upon what authority did they rely to change the dates for the Michigan and Florida Primaries?

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  17. Wallace, Sacramento

    Seriously this is ridiculous, when the rules were explained way before they even started campaigning.

    Hillary supporters, how can you, in good conscience, support something like this? If we 'rig' our elections, what kind of message does that send to the rest of the world? How can we tell Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq, etc. that elections should be fair when we don't believe it ourselves?

    We can't be hypocrites about this.

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  18. JOHN

    WHY IS THE CLITTON CAMP PRESSING VERY HARD AT THIS TIME ON THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN CASE? IS SHE THE ONLY CANDIDATE IN THE ELECTION? THIS SHOWS HER INCONSISTENCY IN DECISION MAKING. SHE SHOULD BETTER LOOK FOR PLEDGED DELEGATES ELSEWHERE NOT IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN. SHE IGNORED THE SIGNIFICANCE OF SMALL STATES IN THE PRIMARIES AND NOW SHE IS BEING HUNTED BY DELEGATE COUNTS. LET CONTINUE TO RELY ON THE SO CALLED "BIG STATES". SORRY IT'S TOO LATE FOR HER. THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT DELEGATES ! OBAMA HAS AGAIN SHOWN A BETTER JUDGMENT ON THE HUNT FOR DELEGATES BY CONSIDERING EVERY STATE AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER IN THE DELEGATE HUNT. THIS RACE IS ABOUT DELEGATES. WE CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONTEST.

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  19. Don

    Where were these people BEFORE the primaries? Absolutely nothing has changed to warrant now seating these delegates. The only reason we are hearing about his now is because Hillary cheated in Florida and Michigan and now she wants to be rewarded for it.

    True, these voters are being "disenfranchised". But that was true the moment they decided to not seat them before the primary. Someone should have been yelling then. Now its just playing politics.

    Further, seating the delegates based on bogus and skewed results disenfranchises not only the folks in Florida and Michigan who didn't vote because it didn't matter AND everyone else in the country who voted based on their states following the rules.

    March 6, 2008 05:26 pm at 5:26 pm |
  20. Sue

    Hillary will do anything to get elected. It does not matter to her that she agreed to this arrangement initially when Florida and Michigan moved their primary date after the DNC told them they could not and what the penalty would be if they did. Now she needs both states to try to get the nomination. Hillary puts herself and her ambitions above the party, the country and the people. She is disgusting.

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  21. Brian from NYC

    Win at all costs – the Clinton Moto! They do plenty to further their own causes, but nothing to further the American people's causes. That's why they won't release their Tax Forms!!!

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  22. Democrat Supporter

    Anyone else just getting wore out over this fighting between Hillary and Barack? I think they should just settle the differences between themselves and become one.

    I support Obama, but I'm finding both Obama and Hillary supports to be getting VERY annoying lately. I don't think there will be a chance for the Dems if this type of behavior continues. We obviously have two great candidates since opinions are split 50/50.

    More and more I have discovered myself becoming a DEMOCRATIC supporter rather than just an Obama supporter. I think the country could use both of these two individuals in the white house. I support both of them.

    Obama/ Hillary
    Hillary/Obama

    Either way as long as we don't get another republican in the white house....

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  23. Bill

    Everyone knew the rules and Michigan and Florida voters knew prior to that date that because there state representatives changed the primary date that they would not be counted. Likely, many voters did not show for that exact reason. To have the DNC foot the bill hurts their to use that money for the general election. Crist, the possible VP candidate, obviously wants to shift the blame to the democratic party for his own personal and Republican ambitions, but this is not a good idea for Senator Clinton. This looks to further divide the Democratic party and it is asking for special treatment. Special treatment that she never mentioned until she fell well behind in the delegate count.

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  24. Joe Smith

    Ofcourse she would want a do over in these two states. If she doesn't shy away from using the neo-con and Karl Rove's farmongering tactic then she would go to any measure to get her foot in the White House again. Even if she gets a repulican governor to help her with this endeavor. She is shameless! These two states knew from the get-go about the consequences of moving thier primaries and did it anyway, but to change the rules in the middle of the game is just not fair.

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
  25. John

    This is the type of drama that is not needed and which the Clintons are famous for.

    March 6, 2008 05:27 pm at 5:27 pm |
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