MIAMI, Florida (CNN) - Will the recount state become the re-primary state? And will voters in Michigan have their say in picking a Democratic candidate for president?
Political leaders from Florida and Michigan were busy Wednesday talking about plans to make sure that voters in their states are heard in picking a Democratic nominee.
The discussions unfolded amid a grueling, delegate-by-delegate fight between Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.
Folks the DNC ASKED ALL the candidates to remove their names from the Michigan ballot, Ms. Clinton decided to ignore that rule. the only reason they were NOT asked to remove their names from the FL ballot is because Fl law does not allow that. To claim that this was a fair election in Fl. since both the names were on the ballot is typical Hillarythink, the fact is in EVERY STATE where Mr. Obama has actually campaigned he has gained signifianct numbers from before he started campaigning there. Why? Well I believve that when people actually hear him speak they forget the Clinton and news bias and see him for what he really is, my opinion only. But the fact is by allowing one candidate who has better name recognition to run and one who has no name recognition, other than hearsay, is not a fair process.
All that being said ethically the votes should not count and there should be no revote. The rules were set, all the parties agreed to them, FL and MI violated the rules they should pay the penalty. real simple next time maybe those two states should follow the rules.
as an executive rules were meant to be broken.. smart people figure out how to get the rules to work for them... but following principle as oppose to not allowing the peoples vote to count is wrong..thats not democracy...
One final note, there is NO RIGHT TO VOTE IN A PRIMARY IN THE CONSTITUTION.
the parties ahve the right to select a candidate in ANY MANNER THEY CHOSE! There is NO requiremetn for them to run primaries, the parties do it for the money they raise. There are parties in the U.S. that appoint their candidate, take the green party and Mr. nader (whatever party he is running under) have there been primaries for them? Nope so you are NOT LOSING A RIGHT you are jsut not being included in the choosing method this time, maybe if the rules ahd been followed you could ahve had a voice, they were not followed you lost your voice take it up with your local party.
Be carefull what you wish for Governor, if you hold caucases in Michigan, which I think you should, Obama will take the Michigan delegates.
and the only reason Hillary won there the first time is because she and Dennis Kusinich were the only ones on the ballot, and a lot of Obama supporters didn't bother to vote.
You want a re-do, lets do it.
As Howard Dean stated the chairman of DNC " We MUST STICK TO THE RULES", Florida and Michigan agreed to these rules a year and a half ago and by asking to change them now in midstream goes completely against what is FAIR and JUST!!!!
A process isn't fair if the agreed upon rules are allowed to be re-written after it is seen that such a move would favor one candidate over another- NOT FAIR PLAY!!!!!
I support and back Howard Dean's stance!!!!! All democrats should!
RULES CANNOT BE CHANGED MIDSTREAM, THAT'S ONLY FAIR!
Please, let's look at the facts:
The Michigan legislation asked their State Supreme Court whether or not their decision to move the date of their primary ahead was constituionally legal The Michigan Supreme Court answered a resounding "YES": No conflict with Constitutional law.
Incredulous, the DNC disenfranchises the people of Michigan and Florida: the 'rules' of the DNC trump the voting rights of the people of Michigan and Florida.
The DNC has 470+ members - 270+ of whom are Super Delegates.
There are 700+ Super Delegates and a Democratic Presidential Super Delegates may prove to be the decisive factor in this contest between Clinton and Obama.
In support the DNC's (270+ of the 400+ members are Super Delegates) disenfrachisement, Obama VOLUNTARILY removes his name from the ballot in Michigan and abandons a campaign in Florida altogether because to compaign in Florida now would be a waste of campaign money.
We know that Obama supports disenfranchisement.
Maybe Obama doesn't care to articulate his message of Hope and Change to Floridans.
We're all Americans, Obama, Michiganders and Floridans included.
Decide for yourself: why would you want to elect someone to the Oval Office who wants to be there so badly he will step on anyone do so?
You blew it MI and FL. They need to fire all of the Democratic heads in that state for causing this fiasco. They knew the rules and ignored it anyway, at the expense of the other 48 states that followed the rules and at the expense of their own electorate. Why should these two rouge states be rewarded for cutting in line? Especially FL, which seems to be the hotbed of all the election troubles.