Florida/Michigan knew well in advance that their delegates would not count and they both blatantly disregarding the Democratic Party ruling. Of all the commentary that I've heard/seen, neither Governor has been asked why they didn't acknowledge the Party's guideline. What message would the Party send, if primaries are held again? Say what you mean, and mean what you say. If money can be found for another primary, then the money should be used to keep a school open, buy new books, fund an arts program…let's put some feet under the Education arena that all politicans love to talk about, yet has done very little about it.

If Florida decides to have a second Presidential Primary this year, Hillary Clinton will begin the race with a sixteen-percentage point lead over Barack Obama.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows that Clinton attracts 55% of the Sunshine State Primary Vote while Obama earns 39%.

Come on! The voters of Fla. and Michigan knew their vote wouldn't count. How else could Hillary have done so well?! She went down there even though there was no campaingning. Hillary needs to concede to Obama so the Democrats can get on with winning the general election. She lost fair and square.

Michigan's Govenor is backing Hillary and Florida's Governor is a Republican. The Republicans sent e-mails to the registered Republicans in Ohio asking them to vote for Hillary in our primary on Tuesday because they aren't worried about McCain beating her.

Yes, and if Hillary was ahead she would certainly want "the rules" enforced.

What a bunch of crap. Change the rules when it suits you.

Hillary Clinton is a lying, coniving, unethical so-and-so just like her illustrious spouse.

I'm from Michigan, and I don't even want our delegates to count. We screwed ourselves over & now we can't accept the consequences of breaking the rules.

if the delegate count is close enough and Clinton can claim nomination with superdelegates, then I think the only solution is this: Clinton/ Obama ticket for Democrat nomination, However Clinton should only serve 1 term in the white house. This way, Obama backers can wait only 4 years, and Obama can become president in only 4 years (if Clinton does not screw it up while in ofiice for the next 4 years). And by then, H Clinton may have help the Economy, and she can retire because she will be 64 then.

I still believe the election process should be by time zones. All the states in the Pacific Standart Time vote one month Mountain Time the next month, etc.

I vote the Democratic National Committee immediately start soliciting and taking non-tax-exempt public contributions to help fund new votes or caucuses in Michigan and Florida, to defray the costs and break the logjam. I'd certainly throw fifty bucks toward such a worthy goal and I'm guessing I'm not alone.

I believe it would be completely wrong to seat the delagates in Michigan without everybodies name on the ballot. I'm from west michigan. I didn't vote in the primary because of this. I feel a revote is the only way to be fair in this election process. If the state of Michigan has to ante up the money than so be it.

I think the best solution to this problem is for the DNC is to share the delegate equal among the candidate, because she don’t want causes and he don’t want primaries. So the best best is to share the delegates. And to be frankly there is no money to do another election. So from my view that the best, because if you look at it. They share the delegate equally. So what the need of doing a new election. To be fair they should share the delegates

Say what you will, Whiskey, but I as a Michigan voter, did not buck the DNC, and I am not happy about being taken out of the process. Maybe the DNC rules are stupid, and need to be looked at. Did our Governor know what the penalties were? Yes, but here in Michigan, the economy has been an issue for a long time, and she was trying to get the economy into the conversation. She did succeed in that, because the Republicans who were here did have to talk to auto workers and union people, who have been hit the hardest by this slump. Now that there is no way for the candidates to take the lead without us, we are suddenly important again, and need to be counted in some way. And it is easy for those of you in other states to thumb your noses at us, but be fair-we did not break any rules-we just voted when they told us to vote. Would you rather we had all stayed home? Do you care?

What ever happened to one voter, one vote? Since when are the voters of Michigan and Florida less worthy than those of Ohio and Vermont? We either count all the votes or none of the votes really counts. That's the spirit of America, at least a democratic one.

Sounds like another rigged election is in the making….

You, know Whisky I have to agree with you…It is the HRC people who are really screaming….For those who knew the votes wouldn't count actually stayed home….I feel bad for the Obama people because they stayed home and now HRC is trying to tip the scales in her favor. That's why I think they should split the delegates in both states. HRC doesn't gain anything by this fiasco and would be fair for Obama.

Let the Republican party pay for it, they want HRC to win

It is unfair not to have FLA & MI voices heard. They did nothing wrong; it was the politicians who screwed up so why should they be punished?

Since Obama ran TV ads in Florida, that states votes should count. MI should split the delegates.

At this point no matter who wins all of us lost.

I don't understand why DNC did not think of reducing the required number of delegates for the nominee when FL and MI were kicked out of the primaries.

There will be problems even if FL and MI run a second primary.

It is better off simply reducing the number of required delegates and saves every penny of the estimated 25 millions.

Hillary Clinton is so dirty. I hate to say that. I persona lly believe that she would do ANYTHING, ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING to get the democratic nomination.

My question is, will Barack Obama keep his word to the voters and not put his name on the Michigan ballot?

He said those agreements should be honored and no changing the rules in the middle of the game. If he puts his name on the ballot in Michigan, would he not be changing the rules? He got a win in Iowa out of that promise.

Now of course I do expect him to put his name on the ballot, but to him for future reference, maybe he should think about things completely before hand. I thought he had the best judgement? His agreement does not seem like good judgement now.

Seat the Delegates from both states. Hillary won. She was smart enought to leave her name on the Ballot. Obama had his name on the Florida ballots. So where is the beef. He lost. Now seat the delegates.

I agree they should have voting on the same day.
i am getting tired of Hillary and Obama , I voted for Hillary
but now I can see they both are troubeling and I am not to sure
eather should be president. So i have decided to go to John McCane
and after that i will vote no more I did not vote after JFK untill
President Clinton. And CNN keeps fires burning which i am so
tired of them I will not watch them any more they just have to put
Hillary and Obama agenst each other all the time.

I disagree, I would support four primaries. One in each section of the country with each section rotating who goes first.

One primary would favor the super rich and not promote a healthy discourse.

I'm a Hillary supporter, however I believe it would be unfair to seat these delegates after they broke the rules their party bosses were completely aware of and knew the consequences. It's unfortunate that the average citizen's vote in those states now fail to count, but it would be extremely unfortunate for Hillary to receive the delegates from largely uncontested races. Sorry just wouldn't be fair

The play stands as called.No more Florida or Michigan.

All I can say is this,let those vote be count and that the end of it. Go Hillary 08!

Split the prize down the middle. Michigan , Florida and Hillary had no business breaking the rules of the dem. party. Promoting breaking the rules after all the self -righteous talk is ridiculous.

Having just finished reading the piece by Jessica Yellin & Rich Phillips I am totally nauseated by the ridiculously complicated procedures put in place by "the good old boy" syndrome in Florida to forestall any resolution to this horror story.
It is particularly disgusting that the Democrats who voted in good faith on 1/29 were being manipulated by the Republicans in Florida's Legislature when the date was selected back in August '07
Also, the rest of the world thinks we Democrats are whiny pains in the ___ when all we want is to be part of the process. I am personally so angry over being disenfranchised 3 times in 8 years I can hardly stand it. (I voted in the Christine Jennings run for Congress 2 years ago when the machines "lost" thousands of our votes and Vern Buchanan won by less than 300 votes.) Disgusting;
It is incumbent on our Super Delegates (reps in DC) to rectify this issue and soon. THIS time I want my vote to count for something besides jokes from the media. Yes, we CAN COUNT !! and in more ways than one !!

We have a movement in the state legislature right now that is considering removing the Democratic Nominee from the General Election Ballot in November. I think voting for McCain or Nader is just fine.

I will file suit against this state if they waste our tax dollars on another election.

Let HRC and BHO pay for a second round. The whole mess benefits them!

What if they did do their primaries over, and the results came out different. Who would be complaining then? As I see it, the people don't have to vote the same they did the first time…they have had more time to study the candidates.

Both Florida and Michigan knew the consequences of moving their primary, they were warned, months in advance that if they moved their primaries before Feb 4th, that they would lose their delegates.

The Party of each respective state was counting on the fact that the candidates would back their position and demand the delegates be seated. They of course didn't.

Both Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama agreed not to campaign in either Florida or Michigan. In Michigan Clinton was the only major Democratic candidate to appear on the ballot.

Now that she is behind in delegates she is crying foul. She wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. Had Michigan and Florida gone for Obama, you would see her singing a different tune.

Now the question is, can we have a do-over. Its is the only viable solution since, the vote on Jan 29th is unfairly tilted towards Clinton because Obama didnt campain in either state and didnt even appear on the ballot in Michigan.

So even though they were warned, and even though all the major candidates backed the decision of the DNC. Now Florida and Michigan want the DNC to pay for new elections……gimme a break!

JUST POST THE FRIGIN COMMENT!!!!!!
Funny how Americans' point their fingers to countries that don't have democracies, but do we? Are we all going to sit by for the 2nd time, and watch (Florida) republicans determine the outcome of our "democratic" race for a Presedential nominee? Republican Governor Charlie Crist VOTED TO DISENFRANCHISE HIS DEMOCRATIC VOTERS by moving up his primary, now he wants to portray himself as a Governor for all of the people of Florida…give me a break! He knew the consequences of his actions, and now the GOP is going to get exactly what they wanted; the upper hand in the Democratic nomination.
We are just puppets on a string until we stand up for ourselves

The only option here is to PLAY BY THE RULES. Sorry Mich, Flo, but your local democratic party F'd you. Blame them.

Does that means we can re-do everything that's happened since so Edwards (and the others) can get back into the race? I mean, that'd be the fair thing to do, right?

I voted in Michigan. It should count. Obama is the one who decided to take his name off the ballot here. Cry me a river Obama. Clinton and you did not campaign here or in Florida. Obama was'nt required to remove his name. It's his problem. Not ours. Niether campaigned in Florida but were both on the ballot. Count it as it is. Obama is a crying loser. What change is he yelling about "yes we can" We can WHAT. He never says.
HILLARY 08

Whiskey:

I am not really a fan of either candidate, but honestly, its not like Barack has enough delegates to win the nomination. Neither will have enough pledged delegates, although he leads.

Be real and try to understand, neither will have the required amount of delegates either way, and last time I checked, he hasn't been able to defeat her on multiple occasions. He couldn't close the deal in New Hampshire, on Super Tuesday or in Ohio and Texas.

Both are very strong candidates, and the only thing that matters is that a democrat wins in November.

The Party needs to have some adherence to the rules they started with or it will collapse. Florida and Michigan voters were told that their votes wouldn't count, so many of them did not vote, resulting in tainted vote totals.

The Party said they wouldn't admit the delegates from an early primary, so doing so now would kill faith in the DNC leadership.

If there are subsequent later votes in the two states, then the DNC will have achieved its objectives and gained some credibility.

If Florida can figure out how to do a second vote, can Michigan deny its Democrats the same opportunity, or vice versa? The DNC should insist that both states provide the same opportunity, so that will mean that the DNC must help fund two votes.

The brilliant elected officials who decided to have an election that was UNSANCTIONED should have a claim filed on their liability insurance under Errors and Ommissions - since Stupidity is prob. not covered. With a pending claim against all those folks - the $$$ wll be there to have a REAL election, the kind the other 48 states and Puerto Rico had to abide by……

And this time, all candidates currently running will be available as a choice.

De ja Vu 2000! Florida is going to screw it up. Again!

Howard Dean is weak because he is powerless to run the DNC. It is being taken over by Hillary and Obama. Dean can't make things happen either way. His leadership could become a liability in the general election. I don't think disenfrachising Florida and Michigan is going to help come November. As, for a reelection, Obama better stop opposing it because it can only enrage Florida and Michigan voters against him. He can't win the presidency of this country by dogging two important battleground states. Wake up homes, and smell the frioles eh. Tu mundo es terminado.
VIVA EL CHAMP
VIVA LA SENIOR CLINTON

We know the battle ahead will be long, but always remember that no
matter what obstacles stand in our way, nothing can withstand the
power of millions of voices calling for change.
We have been told we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics who will
only grow louder and more dissonant in the weeks to come. We've been asked to pause for a reality check. We've been warned against
offering the people of this nation false hope.
But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been
anything false about hope. For when we have faced down impossible
odds; when we've been told that we're not ready, or that we shouldn't
try, or that we can't, generations of Americans have responded with a
simple creed that sums up the spirit of a people.
Yes we can.

Obama '08

Does it strike anyone else that it is profoundly undemocratic to permit political parties to control the effect of citizens' votes for a Presidential election? The U.S. Constitution nowhere states or implies parties should have the power to play games with their bizarre caucuses and superdelegates. I'd hate to let the Supreme Court decide another election, but I'd love to see a credible challenge to this arrogant abuse of power by unelected political hacks.

I agree with William.

And we should start by getting rid of caucuses. The entire concept of a caucus is ridiculous and undemocratic as has been clearly shown by the Texas primary.

Obama is enjoying an advantage in delegates because the caucus system is disproportional and subject to manipulation.

I was not thrilled that the people running my local caucus, including the paperwork, were all wearing Obama t-shirts.

I'm from MIchigan and I'm one of the millions of voters here who have been disenfranchised by my own state government. I agree that the tax payers of Michigan should not pay for a new primary or caucus, I also agree that the DNC shouldn't pay for it. I do believe, however, that the people who caused this problem SHOULD pay for it. Governor Granholm and all the legislators who voted to break the agreement they made with the DNC should fork over the money. It isn't as if they weren't well-informed of what the consequences would be if they re-scheduled MIchigan's democratic primary. This may be a drastic comparison, but when someone breaks the law in Michigan, they are required to face the consequences and make reparation. Why should the state government "breaking the law" have a different result?

…Didn't Hillary say, months ago, when she was winning..that "the votes don't count anyways"?….RULES ARE RULES…she said so herself……go figure…

WHISKEY

YOU ARE SO WRONG WHEN YOU SAID "reading all of these comments from all these dillusional HRC idiots make my head hurt."
WE ARE NOT IDIOTS AND YES CNN HAS AGAIN ACCOMPLISHED THE BIAS THEY HAVE. I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY PRINTED THAT.

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08

I'm a little confused by all the clamoring for a re-vote. Rules are rules. I support Mr. Obama, and I know I'd be frustrated if he'd won those states. Frustrated, but not enough to demand a re-vote. Besides, with all the pandering Clinton is doing, it can't possible be on any kind of a level playing field now. It's silly. Get the names of those responsible and find a way to punish them. Vote them out. We elect and do not elect people for a reason,

Unbelievable is right. How is it that these states make such an early decision to yank the votes, but now that Obama and Clinton are running so close they want their votes to count? They should have thought of this at the time they made the decision to move up their primaries. If the DNC decides to count these states now, I will be thoroughly disappointed. It's not fair. They made a decision and to go back on it now would only show the public that the government doesn't have to follow rules or can change them when they are not to their advantage so why should adults, teens and children have to follow rules? No one in the US owns up to anything anymore. It's really becoming pathetic. And we wonder why our society has the most population in prisons than any other country in the world? Go figure.

Whoever pays for it, they should both be primaries, and moved to June 1st in conjunction with Puerto Rico, and call it the day.

Clinton/Obama
Obama/Clinton

20 years ago a few cities in CANADA purchased voting machines from the USA and more importantly TEXAS. These machines require a paper ballot to be filled out very simply and then put into the voting machine. It counted the balot imidiatly and retained the paper ballot for backup if problems come up. Thats 20 years ago and you are still screwing around with every state different and problems.
Its time you have a NATIONAL ELECTION COMMISION that sets all the rules for voting and when there held. One set of rules ,or is this too mutch for American 's to handle. I thought you were the leaders of democracy around the world. If you are SHOW IT

The democratic party should be very careful not to disenfranchise the voters in Florida and Michigan , It would be a repeat of election 2000 when many voters like me were disenfranchised.

The Democratic National Committee, nor the Clinton or Obama campaigns should fund a dime to a re-vote of the Florida and Michigan primaries. The Florida and Michigan state parties should be the only ones funding this re-vote. If they don't have the money, well too bad. Both states voted to move their respective primaries before New Hampshire knowing full well what the consequences were. I'm glad Howard Dean refused to provide funds for a re-vote.

It is a mess.
It is a shame
It is 2000 all over again!

Last time Democrats blamed Bush, when in fact then and now they should blame themselves. How they let Bush win and won't give Obama the primary baffles me. HRC is destroying the party.

To hastily set up a caucas or primary would surley invite voter fraud.
Just another way to get Hillary a win. Florida again- - -God here we go again.
By the way, a lot of you Clintonites are gloating over her wins in OH, TX & RI. Hmmm, out of the last 15 its Obama 12, Hillary 3. Gloat on!

I agree with William - we should have ONE DAY FOR THE PRIMARY FOR EVERYONE!

Shame on you Michigan and Florida for all of this manipulation!
The democracy of this country should allow everyone to vote who is registered AND TO BE COUNTED.

TOO MUCH GAME PLAYING AND IT RIDICULOUS!

It's good that a plan might be in progress. The outcome of this election would of course be questioned unless Florida and Michigan becomes involved in the process. Millions of voters must be given the chance to vote and their votes must be counted.

There's still plenty of time. The new primaries could be held in may or even june.

What a mess the leaders of Florida and Michigan have put the Democratic Party and the American Political Process in. If only they had followed the rules of the game.

While it is obviously not right to disenfranchise millions of voters, it's obviously not right to change the rules of the game midstream.

To seat the delegates means that our political process cannot be trusted and not to seat the delegates means that millions of voters will not be heard in this election. I think the integrity of our political process is much more important than one year's election.

My question is, why have the voters and legislators in Florida and Michigan waited until now to scream to seat the delegates?

When will democrats in Michigan and Florida realize their party doesn't consider them as important as voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada?

Michigan and Florida are not important states or are representative of the country like Iowa and New Hampshire!

Ditto to William's comment. And whoever is responsible for the rule that the delegates from those states would not be counted if those states held their primaries too early, notwithstanding that they were going to allow over 5 million people to vote, should resign. Also, the political parties don't set election dates, the government does. Hasn't anyone told them not to make a rule that cannot be enforced? Complete idiocy!

flip-flop flip-flop sounds like John Kerry. Just what we need in the White House, a party that can't even decide how to nominate a candidate.

William. If you want it fixed you have to vote for Obama. Shrillary and McCain are the status quo…no change will occur. We must elect Obama to president. This country will tilt towards distruction if we continue on this path.

Will… I totally agree.

I watched a few shows recently, and many speakers asked their guests (both dem and rep) why don't we do this on the same day nationwide like our election.

Answer most common… well that is the simple way, but not the way we do it…

my goodness… no wonder this country is going in the tubes

I'm sorry but its tough cookies for Florida and Michigan. Both states Democratic Parties voted on and agreed to the rules set a year and a half before any primaries took place. The states decided to violate those rules knowing full well what would happen to their delegates. It’s not the fault of the people of these two states; it’s the fault of the Democratic Party leaders of FL and MI for trying to do exactly what they were protesting against by violating party rules. They are trying to be the big bad influential states; the first primaries held in Jan had no real bearing on the Dems race in proclaiming a front runner. If they had stuck to the original plan we probably would not have to be subjected to this painful show of bickering between Clinton and Obama. We may have had a clear front runner by now and a united Democratic party…but noooooo! FL & MI had to try and one-up everyone. They made their bed, they silenced their voter’s voices by trying to act more important than they really are, let them lie in the mess they have made.

Wake up Amerrica!

Please vote for Hillary. She is so capable for this job. Why is it no one can sees this?

Please listen

Universal health care for All Americans
She has a plan for foreclosures in the housing market
She is going to increase the minimum wages
She is going to fight for ALL of Americans
President Clinton is a Plus! We had NO debt or job losses when he was in office. He's not smart. He's brilliant with economics.

This country needs to hold ALL primaries on the same day, and not release any results until all polls have closed.

It should be a straight vote — no more of this "super" delegate stuff where some individual person holds the same sway as a thousand or so regular voters.

One person, one vote, no early or late primaries. It is the only fair way to do it
——————-

That sounds like a great idea to me. I would also like to add they should elimate caucuses. I've been caucusing in Iowa for years and it never seems like it's very organized.

FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN WILL SAY ONCE AGAIN LOUD AND CLEAR
WE WANT HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT!

It is amazing how many people have been brainwashed by the empty speeches delivered by the candidate who is "just words"

How much hatred can you deliver in a nation that believes in God? And even if you do not, you cannot put people down like that without knowing them in real life.

Compare the resumes from both Obama and Hillary and you will learn that Clinton has in fact the best resume to run for President of America.

Facts and no words, unity and no more hatred

VOTE FOR

HILLARY 08

I put all my hope on Florida and Michigan to be count!! So that I can win, but the Question is way they broke the rule in the first place!..means If you don't follow the rule you will be in trouble and that's what is happing right now.DONE! DONE!DONE no excuses.

I'm a FL Democrat and agree with Howard Dean's position. My elected officials moved the primary, silenced my voice and now want to scream "foul". FL did not have a legitimate, competitive primary - the delegates should not be seated based on that election. Gov Crist is hypocritical to speak of his disenfranchised constituents…where was his indignation when he signed the legislation moving the FL primary beyond the boundaries agreed to by the candidates and the DNC? Where was his indignation when the DNC offered funds to support a "do-over" election?Just another example of politics at its worst and affirmation that we must change the way our elected officials tend to the business of governing!
I want my vote to count but I believe in playing by the rules…

Well it seems to me that the Democratic Party should find a way to get this done. The way Democrats are donating right now, it seems to me that mere donations to this one cause could get it done. No Democrat wants to exclude a few MILLION other voters simply because their state party leaders made bad choices. That simply is not democracy. It is punitive. It isn't what American is all about. These states have had time to watch the election unfold and will probably have huge turn out. There is no guessing which way it will go, but this race is to close. There really isn't another choice.

And EVERY Democrat needs to remember: United We Stand… Divided We Fall (again.)

Or as my Republican husband put it: "The Democrats are ripping defeat from the jaws of victory."

Florida and Michigan should pay for this. They knew the rules and violated them. Why does it make sense for anyone else to pay for the election but them?

To the first poster, William. I think it's silly you complain about Michigan and Florida just because they voted for Hillary. I'm appalled by the sexist treatment of this candidate by the mail dominated higharchy.

You should be ashamed. We women have finally united under the banner of Clinton, and we've met so much opposition. Florida and Michigan are one of the biggest examples. I think it's no coincidence that our votes aren't counting there, just because a woman won.

I agree with William on a national primary. I would like to see a revote in primary form.

Hillary 08

Florida: Leave it
Michigan: Revote or give the undecided voters to Obama and Clinton keeps her votes

Let's do something to end this primary so we can fight against McCain

What do the people who moved up the primaries in Mich and Fla say? They're the one's that created this mess.

Reversing the original DNC decisision sets a bad precident. In the future, states will use this a an example of why it wouldn't matter if the party says no, they'll just do it, then sit back and let the fur fly and get their way anyway.

Somehow, there's gotta be repercussions… to them, not everybody else. Yes, eventually, we'll all have to pay for it, even the states who followed the rules. But it would be only fair for those people who created this mess, pay for it more than us.

Lemme guess… the people who created this mess… were Republicans? So they wouldn't even care if the Dem voters in their states get their votes in?

Let's get a plan for Michigan and Florida done soon. These states have plenty of money and can easily pay for the elections. All the fighting over who is going to pay is stupid. Let the states pay for it and then they can look for state parties.

Where is Solomon when you need him! The voters in each state had their say! The DNC has its rules now they can modifiy the penalty by determining how the delegates will be seated! Split them in half! No gain for either candidate. It is not complicated the party keeps the party together and the Clinton camp gets what it deserves! No gain, no advantage!

Wisdom is the principal thing!

ke

This is outrageous. I have children who are watching this historical moment in time, and what are we telling them ? Don't worry you don't have to follow rules. There are no real penalities for not following instructions. If the rules where set, stated clearly and agreed upon by all parties involved, then they should be upheld. Rules are set just so we can avoid chaos and confusion just like this. I truly appreciate Howard Dean speaking out and standing his ground. I back you one hundred percent Dean, and It's to bad you have to step in and babysit grown men and women.

William,

Well said! I've been suggesting that for years!

Michigan I get but Florida I don't. The answer in Florida is quite simple seat the delegates as elected. The republican screwed up down there not the Demo., both Clinton and Obama stayed on the ballot and the people voted. Neither candidates had an advantage over the other so why not listen to the people after all isn't that what an election is about. I'm surprised that the people in Florida even bother to go vote at all anymore. If I was Obama I would try to remember that come Nov. he's going to need these same people on his side. Isn't this a chance to put the voters first?

New idea:

Florida: Obama and Clinton were on this ticket…leave it
Michigan: Clinton keep her votes…Obama takes the undecided
or have another primary in just Michigan

The dems are cheating in WI already. They won't allow us a referandum on voter integrity. We want voter I.d. and they won't let us even vote on it. They have too many fraudulent voters in Milwaukee.

anytime i break the rules my parents forgive me and then placate to my feelings of disenfranchisement.

i should be a state.

ok so all of a sudden hillary wants to include florida?? bring it ON we are ready to vote

OBAMA 08!!

I agree with William 100%.

IF SEN. OBAMA DOES NOT WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, MCCAIN WILL WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

The biggest obstacle appears to now be Hillary Clinton. Hillary has stated that she wants to disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan. ideas about holding a re-vote via a primary or a caucus have been declined outright by Hillary Clinton. Hillary has stated she wants the results of the two non-democratic primaries to be ratified.

The issue is as follows:
With Michigan, only Hillary was on the ballot, so many voters chose either not to vote and/or vote uncommitted. Michigan had a low voter turnout for the Democrats as such; because all the Michigan Democrats were told their votes would not be counted.

With Florida, the same voter turnout process occurred. Many voters just did not turn out for an election that was not to count.

if Hillary and her surrogates are serious about not wanting to Disenfranchise voters, she should be in support of either a caucus or a primary and stop stonewalling the process.

In the end, neither of these states will end of counting due to Hillary Clinton.

I completely agree that something is terribly amiss with how primary elections are set up in our country. This is finally being exposed because the Democrats have two equally strong candidates in this electoral cycle. Why can't all the states vote in one day ? Why do we need this protracted process of voting that runs from January to June, forcing several states into irrelevancy, and costing hundreds of millions of dollars ? We peddle democracy all over the globe, but we can't even come up with a simple, efficient, electoral system ? why don't we just join the 21st century on this issue ?

I think florida and michigan should count, and I agree with William. The vote should be done in early county/state, the same day

Howard Dean needs to grow a pair. This is exactly why Democrats are viewed as wishy washy. Can’t have any one with hurt feelings. Every one is a winner. States broke the rules and now they get away with it. Unbelievable. Don’t give me any excuses how each state was forced to move their date up, no one held a gun to their head. They knew exactly what they were doing when they did it.

It makes me wonder why I am a Democrat, when we can’t even follow their own rules.

Of course Clinton wants the states counted, because she kept her name on their ballots. Automatic states for her. She broke the rules too as far as I am concerned. Just another political ploy to keep her somewhat in the game.

Hillary has now even managed to polarize her own party. When you billary supporters are grieving over the loss of the election and the decline of the demo party, look no further than hillary and her feminist supporters. Mcain is as good as elected now.

I DON'T THINK THE RULES SHOULD CHANGE JUST FOR THEM …. THIS IS REDICULOUS ! ! ! IF THEY WOULD QUIT ELECTING PEOPLE BASED UPON WHAT THEY CAN SEE ABOUT THEM 5 MIN. BEFORE THEY GO TO THE POLLS … THEY WOULD HAVE A GOVERNOR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR RIGHTS ALL ALONG…..

GOV CRIST …WHY DON'T YA GET OFF OF THE JUAN MCCAIN B.S. TRAITOR EXPRESS AND STOP LOOKING FOR A CAMERA AROUND THE RINO ?

YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AND DONE SOMETHING TO STOP IT … THATS WHEN YOU (((SHOULD))) HAVE BEEN SPEAKIN FOR FL. …. NOT WHEN YOU CAN STEP OUT FROM BEHIND YOUR RINO FRIENDS !

TELL YOUR STATE "TUFF LUCK" AND MAYBE ((( THEY ))) WILL PAY MORE ATTENTION TO WHO THEY LET GOVERN THE STUPID THIRD WORLD STATE .

I hope there is a revote in Michigan because I felt like I was robbed in the earlier election that was clearly communicated would NOT count. Therefore, nobody can honestly claim victory. If anyone tries to claim victory for an election that clearly stated it would not count us both unethical and Anti-American.

If there is a revote, it better be done in a fair and equitable matter or their will be a big revolt against the Democratic Party. They are walking a tight rope and need to be very careful of crashing to their doom.

It seems like a easy answer to me…Let Hillary pay for it, she's the one pushing for the delegates to be seated. This is why people are not involved in politics, the rules keep changing if a person is losing in pledge delegates. If she was ahead she wouldn't be worried about the delegates being seated. If she wins the nomination I will not vote for her because she is a "monster". Besides the party is so divided now both Obama and Clinton might as well drop out and give it to McCain because I don't see supporters from either candidate willing to vote for the other person.

I've survived many years with candidates I didn't vote for and I'm sure I'll continue to survive if McCain gets into office.

The DNC should not contribute any funds. I can't believe they are allowing future votes to count anyway. This sets a standard that says there will be no consequences to states that break rules.

Obama should offer to foot the bill for the re-primaries since he is contesting Clintons claim to have won both states. Clinton would either have to go 50/50 with him or appear hypocritical about caring so much about the peoples vote in those states.

I agree with William 100%. To add to what he was saying, we should also have standards so that each primary contest is the same in every state rather than the Caucus here and a Primary there and the double-vote in Texas. Also, Have a 24 hour voting day for Primaries and General Election.

I THINK OF THE TWO STATES (MICHIGAN, AND FLORIDA), MICHIGAN SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RE-DO ITS PRIMARY AND FLORIDA'S SHOULD HOLD FAST AS WAS HELD. EVERYTHING WAS EQUAL IN THE FLORIDA RACE. EVERYONES NAME WAS ON THE BALLET, NO ONE CAMPAINGED. VOTES WERE CAST AND THEY SHOULD BE COUNTED AS THEY WERE. MICHIGAN ON THE OTHER HAND SHOULD REHOLD ITS CONTEST BECAUSE BOTH OF THE CANIDATES NAMES WERE NOT ON THE BALLET. IT WASNT REALLY FAIR SO MAKE IT RIGHT, NO MATTER WHO HAS TO PAY FOR IT. IF YOU RE-DO THE FLORIDA RACE…SHOULD IT BE A BEST OF THREE???? KEEP THE FLORIDA RESULTS AND DONT WASTE THAT MONEY. REHOLD THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY… END OF STORY, AND IT WILL ALL BE FAIRLY DONE AND WE SHOULD HAVE A CLEARER VEIW OF THE NOMINEE AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU!

Ah, well, you know what they say about people who covert prominent spots…. they get asked to move to the back of the room where they will be ignored. Well, Florida and Michigan, your leaders both Replican and Democrates did this to you so perhaps you should consider NOT electing them next time round!

The voice of all voters should be heard. I agree with this sentiment. What I don't agree with is placing the blame on Howard Dean for something the elected officials of Florida and Michigan did. The only reason this is an issue now is because Clinton is losing.

AS THE COMMENTATOT STEPHANOPOULOS TELLS US, HE SPOKE
WITH ALL THE RELEVANT PLAYERS AS DNC AND STATE AUTHORITIES, AND ALL AGREED THAT NOTHING COULD BE DONE
AS LONG AS:
- THE FUNDING QUESTION IS RESOLVED, QUESTION ADDRESSES
HERE IN THE ARTICLE
- B O T H CAMPAIGN AGREE ON THE PROCEDURE SELECTED.

Fcatually, unless at the moment of the new polls (Caucus, primary or
whatever) the difference of elected delegates is only a 2 or 3 dozens,
the differences achievable of delegates so vote will be irrelevant !!
SO, ALL THE MONEY AND EFFORTS SPENT WILL BE IRRELEVANT!!

TOM

Florida and Michigan elected officals broke the rules and now they have a Republican governor in FL leading the charge for a re-vote? Get real, but my question to CNN is: Why only Hillary and McCain have a link at the top of this page??? Obama is the front runner and Hillary gets a link??? Typical CNN.

Hillary: "I'm tested and vetted."

The voice of the intelligent voters: "Vetted at what? Whinning? Quoting Saturday Night Live in a Presidential Debate? Or throwing lamps at your Pimped Out Husband?"

Hillary in her baby voice whinning: "You like him better!"

CNN: "We'll help you out Hillary!"

Wish we still had some credible news sources. Do some "real" reporting instead of being a Clinton cheering section!!

Just say NO to a re-vote, and do not dare seat these delegates!!! We should not reward rule breakers!!!

Kind of makes you feel like complete idiots holding a multi-million dollar election in January that you knew wasn't going to be counted, eh Michigan and Florida?

Do yourselves a favor and elect competent Governors/Legislators and play by the rules JUST LIKE THE OTHER 48 STATES DID.

If the DNC cannot see that by going back on its word to facilitate a losing Hillary Clinton, it is actually giving the impression that it does not abide by principle, then it must be clear to voters - Independents and Democrats - who smell coercive tactics by the Clintons must walk over and vote John McCain.

Hilary Clinton is not just a monster; she is the devil incarnate. May a bolt of lightning strike this serpent striaght between the deceptive eyes and burn the 666 mark of the beast imprinted on her forehead.

Why have rules if they can be broken at any time . Their no point in making an agreement if you can't abide by it.

WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME????

SPLIT THE DELEGATES EVENLY BETWEEN THE TWO. I'M A REPUBLICAN, IT IS COMMON SENSE. HELLO….DNC ARE YOU READING THE COMMENTS! THIS WILL SAVE MONEY……DOING A RE-DO IS WASTEFUL AND I DON'T THINK THE OBAMA OR CLINTON OR STATE SHOULD PAY FOR THIS AS WELL AS THE VOTERS IN MI OR FL…QUIT THIS BICKERING…..

DNC should not fund for a new vote. States knew all along that they are breaking the rules. Don't forget the november election. IF Michigan and Florida get seated based on illegal action, it is going to backfire to all dems as it shows that Dems don't have ethics just like clintons do waht ever it take to. Also rest of the world is watching us. Howard dean is right, he is not against the voters, he needs to think about the party. I guess governor Crist very much like dems get backfired on that so Mccain has easy way out. DNC don't get in to the trap. Many people did not vote because of it is not going to be counted. So democratic party leaders in these two states cheated.

The purpose of the primary is to allow the voters an appropriate time to get to know the candidates, to whittle down the field, and to allow the candidates to hone their message. I think this is valuable - so I am not in favor of a single day for the primary vote.

I also believe that only party members should vote in primaries - registered democrats vote for dems - republicans vote for republicans. Independents can vote for Nader.

I dont think that is fair that these two states wanted to have a voice in the primaries so they pushed their primaries up without DNC permission and now they are in a way getting what they want.

However, I know that Clinton thinks that this might help her but it also might hurt her and Obama depending on wether or not the voters become apathetic. Or with time other might have changed their mind.

Make them caucases, it would cost less and it would keep the Republicans out of meddling with our elections.

Even if there is a re-vote the margin of victory for Hillary if she wins this time in FL and Michigan will be very narrow and not enough to carry her to the nomination.

She only gained sweeping support in FL and Michigan the first time around because no one in the country thought this unheard of Barrack Obama guy had a shot. His support in those two states at this juncture will have increased drastically due to the influence winning 13 of 15 contests will now have on FL and Michigan voters. People forget that even winning Ohio 55 to 45 did virtually not damage to barack's lead if you view the before and after delegate totals.

Hillary is raising millions and millions of dollars here
lately. I am sure since she is the one that this matters to,
her and Bill can come up with the funds.Obama cares
deeply about the voters in Mich. and Fla. but he is NOT
the person that made up the RULES. If Obama wins in
most of the next states, the issue will become nil.
Unfortunately, either Obama will win in both states
or it will be a close tie with Hillary which will
still not determine who will be the nominee!!!Get it
folks, it should not be an issue after the upcoming
states. I think Hillary knows this or feels it. She
announced today that she would like a ticket with
CLINTON/obama on it. He would never be V.P. for
a liar.

OBAMA 2008

Florida should not be punished for the actions of it's Republican leadership, the democrats tried to change it back to Feb. 5th, but were denied by the Republican governor and state senate.. Meanwhile, 2 million Democrats who voted already are being disenfranchised, and that is OK by Obama and his followers, shameful.

There is no way to fix this fiasco properly. Trying to do anything other than splitting the delegates will disenfranchise so many Democrats. I, too, would be upset to live in FL or MI, but they ultimately did have a vote when they voted in their states' leaders who allowed this to happen.

MI and FL governors, please do not expect the DNC or the campaigns to bail you out of this mess. Do NOT take the money I donated to my candidate and use it for a 'do-over.' This is real life, not a children's game, there are no 'do-overs.'

I am very tired of certain states like Florida and Ohio making procomlations that they are more important than other states. If that truly is the case, call it like it is and stop allowing me to think my vote actually counts and only hold elections in those the important states.

Howard Dean, you, and a host of others will be receiving a letter from me tonight requesting a change to this farce of a nomination system. It was too late to write that letter last night because I was busy writing to my superdelegates to beg them to please vote for the candidate the state of Wisconsin voted for as I thought delegates were supposed to represent the people. I guess I was wrong.

I couldnt agree with William more.

Why is the election process so complicated, unstructured and confusing.

Does anyone know how we can stop this? I'm signing petitions and such, but I think its outrageous that the DNC would just go back on itself like this.

We have rules for a reason, you don't just change the game halfway through because you don't like the outcome.

In the case of Florida, the original date of the primary was agreed to with the DNC. The State Legislators decided and voted to change the date of the primary which invaildated the results.

It seems strange that Gov. Crist would appear on CNN and talk about voter disenfranchisement, when he needed only to walk over to the State house and hold his republican buddies accountable.

What don't the Legislators pick up the tab………with their own money. Maybe then they would be more careful with the power that they are entrusted with.

Over on the Washington Times newspaper online, they are reporting a $700,000 windfall Bill Clinton received in dealings with Armand Rousso who was recently convicted in some shady dealings. Check out Washington Times online.

I'm still waiting to see something on the Peter Paul vs Clinton campaign finance fraud case in California as we speak. Unlike the Rezko trial that didn't list Obama as a witness - ALL of the Clintons (including Chelsea) are listed as witnesses.

The Decomcratic Party should bite the bullet and pay for new priomary elections. Anythign less will breed resentment and possibly cost the party both Michigan and Florida in November.

If Florida and Ohio want a redo, let them pay for it. They knew the consequences for breaking the rules they had agreed to. Seriously, if the DNC agrees to pay for a redo, I'm going to lose confidence in this party. My state followed the rules.

Split the delegates and let's get this over with so we can wish the Clintons goodbye.

Another thought……CLOSED PRIMARIES!!! If you're registered republican, you vote republican. If your democrat, you vote democrat and so on. NO MORE CROSSOVER IN THE PRIMARIES!!!!

Regardless of what happens in Michigan, or Florida, or from here on out, the democratic party has suffered fatal blows. The Clinton supporters act like their entitled to have Clinton receive the nomination by virtue of Bill being a prior president. I have also read about, heard about, and experienced racism and hate from so many Clinton supporters. And this is from the party of tolerance!

Those whom support Obama will never forget the horror of hate and negativity visited upon them by those that support Clinton.

There will never again be a unified democratic party, and this is the true tragedy of this fine mess of a primary.

Figure something out…and get it done…ALL voices have the right to be heard….isn't that what sets America apart…isn't that what people fight for in other countries…SET AN EXAMPLE and let ALL voices be heard.
Hillary 08

Well, if the do hold another Primary here in Michigan, I hope they hold the polls open for a longer period of time. There are so many people working long hours these days (if they're lucky enough to have a job) that you have to take time off to vote.

After the calamity this election cycle has been, I think the DNC should seriously look at revising the process. Make things uniform all over the country, #1 PAPER BALLOTS, those machines are stupid and faulty. #2 Limit campaigning, I mean heck, does this crap REALLY need to go on for almost 2 years? #3 Stop all the obnoxious fund raising. Give each candidate an amount to spend and be done with it! #4 Why doesn't the whole country vote on ONE day, make it another federal holiday if necessary and just be DONE WITH IT!

I for one am SICK TO DEATH of this, and we've still got to listen to the garbage for 8 more months……..YIKES!

Disenfranchised voters is what motivates this sudden drive by Florida (& Michigan) to have it's Delegates seated? Oh, seriously? I heard that the Florida Legislature is preparing a bill that will exclude the candidate of whichever national party does not seat Florida's Delegates. from the National Ballot in November (I forgot to write, sorry)

If that is correct it's not only blackmail… it shows beyond any doubt that the Governor doesn't care a r*t's *ss about the constitutional rights of his constituents, but has a hidden agenda!

End it here. Michigan and Florida were legitimately banned from having their votes count because their respective democratic parties chose to move their votes up so they could influence the election.

The candidates agreed and accepted that Michigan and Florida's votes would not count. Even though their voters were disenfranchised, which should not be tolerated in this country, the ground rules were in place before the election began.

To go back and allow repeat elections now is simply not fair. There are other candidates, now out of the race, that may have seen a different outcome had they been on the ballot and the votes allowed to count.

Just lower the required value of delegates needed to win the primary by the amount Michigan and Florida would have contributed. End of story.

Going back and changing the rules yet again is wrong. It goes against everything this country is about. All the players need to know the rules BEFORE any election and abide by them.

This has all the earmarks of a setup and I for one do not like it one bit.

I THINK OF THE TWO STATES (MICHIGAN, AND FLORIDA), MICHIGAN SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO RE-DO ITS PRIMARY AND FLORIDA'S SHOULD HOLD AS WAS HELD. EVERYTHING WAS EQUAL IN THE FLORIDA RACE. EVERYONES NAME WAS ON THE BALLET, NO ONE CAMPAINGED. VOTED WERE CAST AND THEY SHOULD BE COUNTED AS THEY WERE. MICHIGAN ON THE OTHER HAND SHOULD REHOLD ITS CONTEST BECAUSE BOTH OF THE CANIDATES NAMES WERE NOT ON THE BALLET. IT WASNT REALLY FAIR SO MAKE IT RIGHT, NO MATTER WHO HAS TO PAY FOR IT. IF YOU RE-DO THE FLORIDA RACE…SHOULD IT BE A BEST OF THREE???? KEEP THE FLORIDA RESULTS AND DONT WASTE THAT MONEY. REHOLD THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY… END OF STORY, AND IT WILL ALL BE FAIRLY DONE AND WE SHOULD HAVE A CLEARER VEIW OF THE NOMINEE AFTERWARDS. THANK YOU!

Amen William, and I might add to that it should be accomplished by popular vote only for both parties. Who ever comes out on top wins, even if the spread is only a few hundred votes. And your right, results are not to be released until the last polling station in the country has closed. That way no one will know the results or trends until it is all finished. Paper ballots YES (circle the name of the candidate you want) that way there is no chance of a screw up. Additionally there should be no other voting or measures on the ballots…this should be strictly a candidate selection, nothing more. The same should also apply to the actual presidential election.

Please, somebody, anybody, please tell me this campaign and the DNC are not being held hostages to Hillary and Bill Clinton!

The DNC makes a ruling against states bringing up their primary dates or pay by having their delegates NOT SEATED at the convention. Two states, Florida and Michigan, broke the rule, but now we are watching the Clinton machine at work trying to make the DNC look inept? Forget the governors of Florid and Michigan, they are two idiots who don't know what a rule is.

And how will any decision to do over the votes in both states not be seen as unfair to John Edwards who was still in the race at the time, but has since dropped out? Edwards had supporters in both states who would have voted for him!

They could seek private sponsorship to pay for those primaries.

HILLARY 08

I hope the Democratic Party looks at their rule regarding super delegates and change it for 2012. NO! SUPER DELEGATES> Just the voice of the people. They should give Michigan and pay for a re-vote , if not then take the uncommitted and split that vote between Edwards and Obama. Florida is fine all candidates were on the ballots. Why did Obama And Edwards choose not to be on Michigan's ballots, but stayed on Florida's? Several million voter who are Democratic are defranchised by not allowing their votes count. Good reason to change parties, democrats took away are right to vote and be counted in this election.

Let's ask Clinton and Obama if their campaigns will pay for the Re-Do votes in FL and MI. The governors of FL and MI signed the bills to change the primary dates in their states and the DNC's membership voted on the rules of engagement prior to that. This re-do voting in FL and MI should not cost the voters nothing. If Hillary wants the Re-do that bad, SHE SHOULD PAY FOR IT. We know she has at least 5 million dollars of her own money plus 1.26% interest.

A new primary… This is ridiculous. Would this be happening if Hillary had more delegates than Obama? From this Floridian and educator– money use to re-finance this circle would be more beneficial in the school system. Let's see if our government leaders can see that our schools are in desperate need of finances. Schools have no budget but yet we can propose a new primary or caucus. A rule was set, abide by it, change it in the next 4 years.

Whats with Obama and all his lies? This ticker blew me away:

"Obama maintains a slight edge over his Democratic rival, with $181,000 in Big Pharma donations through Jan. 31, compared with Clinton's $174,000, according to the center. McCain is far behind with $44,000."

He is going negative and his speeches are getting boring, I WAS a Obama supporter I'm really glad that I still get to vote…

The Democrats have shown the country (the world) how they handle a presidential election: 1) Only the Democrats have "superdelegates', who are in no way bound by the will of all other voters 2) Only the Democrats have a primary process in Texas that includes in addition to the general primary election and caucus also and the caucus voters are in no way bound by the will of all other voters 3) Only the Democrats agreed not to have early primaries before a certain date THEN two such states, florida and Michigan, violated that agreement and were penalized by the DNC for so doing and their primaries didn't count nor could they seat delegates 4) Only the Democrats are considering a "do-over" and hold yet second primaries and/or caucusses. WOW…are we sure we can let these clowns claim the White House"

How complicated the dems make their nomination process simply baffle me. This is the best time to take over the White house. Trust the DNC to miss that oppurtunity again.

Simplify the process. Make it a winner take all contest period.

It is not fair to close the door on Florida and Michigan voters. We do not want to tick them off! Let their votes count.
Florida results should stand. Michigan could do a re vote to be fair. Punish their super delegates instead. That's the sensible thing to do.

How can officials in Michigan and Florida even hold a straight face when asking for this kind of preferential treatment - "Hey, I know we agreed to do things in line with everyone else, but we changed our minds! Now fix the situation for us so we can be a part of the party!" Ridiculous. And Hillary should be ashamed of herself for having "worked" this angle from day one to sock away some unfairly earned delegates just in case Obama pulled ahead. I can't believe that this could have an impact on the final delegate count. Next time, follow the rules you agreed to and this won't happen. Quite whining to Howard Dean and the country and replace your party officials who took your votes away.

Mail the ballots to all registered democrats, then have them mailed back by a certain date. How much does that cost?

Since Florida tends to have real problems with holding fair and democratic elections … it wouldn't be unreasonable to eliminate them from all futurre federal elections … corruption at it's worse is defined by Florida's voting record.

A Harvard Professor should have been less candid, perhaps something from Shakespeare like "Lady Macbeth" would have conveyed the same sense of "tactical flexibility". Obama needs to watch these proceedings in Michigan very closely. This is now the kind of murky, behind closed doors dealmaking that the Macbeths thrive on to further their ambitions. In fact it could be a preview of the convention…

I am Sorry that Florida and Michigan officials fouled their primarys, but from everything I have read, it was their own faults. The DNC offered to reschedule and absorb a portion of the costs a few months ago and both states refused. Now they cry foul as if they had nothing to do with the decisions made.

A re-do may not go the way the republicans want as much of the "negative Clinton tactics" may win in Obama's favor with both states. If you are reading these blogs more and more people from Florida and Michigan are coming over to Obama for President.

I have read Hillary's comments on a Joint-ticket, and I promise you now, if she is on the ticket for President in any way shape or form, McCain will become, as I have had to vote for the past 40 years, the Lesser of two very BIG EVILS.

GO OBAMA

whats the point of the rules if no one follows them, michigan and forida knew what would happen if they moved their primary up.. clinton trying to count thm is totally underminding the entire democratic party as wel as anyone who agrees with her…

Clinton and Obama knew the rules too. How stupid to not be on the ballot in Michigan?

Clinton won both states, give her the delegates.

one person, one vote. everyone should count.
and for dean to punish fl. & mi. because of the republican run state
of fl. that wasn't concerned with the democrats position is just ludercrious.
sure they agreed not to move up the Dem. race before feb.5th but
the republican run admin. wasn't worried about the dem.s decision to boycott the states delegates,
they done it to put the fly in the democrats pudding.
and dean isn't smart enough to see this?
come on, that's why dean tried to do a 48 state race( i mean 50) in the first place. so that redistricting would fall to a democratically controlled
majority could decide on the redistricting not the republicans.
doesnt anyone remember the Texas feasico?
one person,one vote for all of America…………..

All of this back and forth stuff is getting out of hand… I read all the posts on here and people are fighting over words and gossip… this is getting out of control… this is exactly what the Republicans want to happen…

Obama's ad in Miss… that was a spin and taken out of context… if you read the story she was commenting on the fact that neither Iowa or Miss have never had a woman elected… She was shocked to hear that…

What is sad is if you watch CNN last night the Republican Analyst was cut off when he started to talk about how Obama was the easier candidate to beat… A democratic analyst questioned the math scenario because Clinton has won the states that by the electoral college gives her the nomination… all of them were cut off and it is sad that the real stories do not surface…

Both of them were telling CNN why the super delegates are not taking sides… this has caused a split in the democratic party… the super delegates are afraid of all of the threats of not voting… we are headed for a disaster!!!

One vote, one day!

Let the Florida delegates stand as originally elected. Michigan is more complicated because some of the candidates chose to leave their name off the ballot. They were not required to do so. But the solution is not to hold a firehouse caucus just because it's cheaper. Cost should not be the driving force behind finding a fair solution.

What would be realllly funny and entertaining is if Obama comes out as the winner during a re-vote.

Watching Hillary try to get the votes not counted after she has argued so hard to get them counted will just be amazing.

All of these o