March 11th, 2008
08:00 PM ET
6 years ago

Caucus win gives Obama more Texas delegates than Clinton

 Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.
Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.

(CNN) - Illinois Sen. Barack Obama has won the Texas Democratic caucuses and will get more delegates out of the state than his rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, who won the state's primary, according to CNN estimates.

Under the Texas Democratic Party's complex delegate selection plan, Texas voters participated in both a primary and caucuses on March 4. Two-thirds of the state's 193 delegates were at stake at the primary, while the remaining third were decided by the caucuses.

An additional 35 superdelegates were not tied to either contest. Clinton, of New York, defeated Obama in the primary by a 51-47 percent margin. But results of the caucuses were up in the air on election night and for several days afterward, due to state party rules that did not require local caucus officials to report their results to a centralized location.

Partial caucus results, representing 41 percent of all caucus precincts, showed Obama last week with 56 percent of the county-level delegates chosen at the caucuses to 44 percent for Clinton. The state party says it will not be able to provide a further breakdown of the caucus results from March 4.

After a comprehensive review of these results, CNN estimates that Obama won more support from Texas caucus-goers than Clinton. Based on the state party's tally, Obama's caucus victory translates into 38 national convention delegates, compared to 29 for Clinton.

And though Clinton won more delegates than Obama in the primary, 65 to 61, Obama's wider delegate margin in the caucuses gives him the overall statewide delegate lead, 99 to 94 - or once superdelegate endorsements are factored in, 109 to 106.

CNN's estimate is based on a statistical review, which combined the county-level results provided by the state party with data from the U.S. Census, exit polls and telephone surveys.

That analysis showed that the counties that reported data to the state party last week appear to be a representative cross-section of the Texas population. The analysis also indicates that areas that were won by Obama reported results at essentially the same rate as areas that were won by Clinton.

Every procedure used to statistically model the outcome of the caucuses indicated that Obama had more support than Clinton.

The next step in the delegate-selection process will occur on March 29, when the county-level delegates chosen at the March 4 caucuses will meet in county conventions held across the state. CNN will closely monitor those events and will adjust its delegate estimate for Obama and Clinton, if necessary, based on those results at that time.


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soundoff (145 Responses)
  1. Eric

    What did Bill Clinton say about winning both Ohio AND Texas?

    Let's see those tax returns, or is that another statement that you are going to have to back away from Hillary?

    March 11, 2008 08:01 pm at 8:01 pm |
  2. NickNasc

    SO when will you all retract her "BIG WIN!!!!!" Chants and Boasts??

    (I am actually giggleing over here right now.)

    March 11, 2008 08:02 pm at 8:02 pm |
  3. Clinton is a fraud

    3 words! YES WE CAN!

    March 11, 2008 08:02 pm at 8:02 pm |
  4. Stephen

    So, in other words Obama won Texas. Time for Hillary to be true to her words and drop out!

    March 11, 2008 08:03 pm at 8:03 pm |
  5. Mike

    projections... give me a break... wait for the final count that will not be ready until 3/29... everyone counted her out during the primary and guess what she won... as you would say "too close to call"

    March 11, 2008 08:03 pm at 8:03 pm |
  6. Jay

    I s this new...wikipedia has had the margin at 99-94 for days now.

    March 11, 2008 08:03 pm at 8:03 pm |
  7. Martin

    So now that CNN have corrected their mistake on Texas will you get round to changing your primary scoreboard? It would be a shame to give hope to those poor delusional souls backing Hillary that they stand a chance without her breaking her promises on Michigan and Florida (being a Clinton of course being a two-faced liar comes naturally so it won't upset her too much but it might upset the fools backing her). It also debunks the myth that she wins the "Big" states. The main reason Ohio went to Clinton is a lot of Republicans voted tactically for Clinton to drag out the race for their benefit. Fortunately for the Democrats there aren't many states left where Clinton can get support from clever Republicans and her bubble will finally burst.

    March 11, 2008 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  8. ObamaSupporters

    Thank you Texas!
    C'mon Pennsylvania – Yes we can!

    Obama '08

    March 11, 2008 08:05 pm at 8:05 pm |
  9. Manuel TX

    Proof again that caucuses are not representative of the will of the voters.

    This reality should have a strong impact on superdelegates who have not selected a candidate to support.

    A minority of voters in Texas gave Obama more delegates. The majority of voters in Texas voted for Hillary.
    :)

    March 11, 2008 08:05 pm at 8:05 pm |
  10. Deb, IN

    This was sooooooo stupid to begin with. If they could not handle a primary and a caucus then they need to stick with the primary results.

    March 11, 2008 08:05 pm at 8:05 pm |
  11. Rich in Seattle

    So Obama won Texas. Simple as that.

    March 11, 2008 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
  12. JC

    I hope CNN provides Fair coverage and gives Obama as much BIG WIN air time for Texas as they did for Hillary... Seems like something fishy is going on in the news media the last few weeks.... Keep HOPE alive.

    March 11, 2008 08:07 pm at 8:07 pm |
  13. Clilntonite

    Who cares we won the caucuses??

    Is their cacuses in the General Election: NO WE CAN"T

    Hhahah

    MCCain or Bust in the Genral Election

    All my Latinos will switch to MCCain..hahahah

    No We Can't

    March 11, 2008 08:08 pm at 8:08 pm |
  14. Mad in Texas

    Only in Texas where the Bushes and the Perrys, of course Republicans could mess this one up. I just ask you, why the cacus when you've had a primary. That sounds like what the Bushes are good at, CHEATING. Do you think you captured the will of the Texas people here. The Primary said different. Now you've caused Hillary to lose delegates. WHY? Because you know she will beat your butt's come November. HILLARY 08

    March 11, 2008 08:08 pm at 8:08 pm |
  15. Isaac

    This is infuriating, and final proof that unfair caucus results are one of the only reasons that Obama has the delegate lead that he has. I do hope that superdelegates weigh in this type of factor. Clinton won Texas' popular vote by 4 percentage points, and yet he comes out ahead in delegates. Now we'll hear all the Obama supporters saying how he "won" Texas. Yet when it comes to the convention they will want the person with the delegate lead to be the nominee, only when it works in their candidates favor, or else they'd want the popular vote.

    This whole system needs to be fixed.

    March 11, 2008 08:09 pm at 8:09 pm |
  16. Jay

    Yeah...by Bill Clinton and James Carville's own words, if she didn't win both Texas and Ohio, she can't win and Obama is the nominee.

    Lemme guess...they're backtracking again.

    If Clinton wins every single contest that remains after today by a 55-45 margin, she's still behind in pledged delegates.

    March 11, 2008 08:09 pm at 8:09 pm |
  17. Long-term Memory

    The Texas caucus results are not verified until March 29, and the CNN tracker here does not show more than 41% of the caucus vote having been processed. Is this a problem with CNN's updating or some incredibly impatient reporting? Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

    March 11, 2008 08:10 pm at 8:10 pm |
  18. Ron

    This was a rigged caucas and caucuses are a worthless unfair way of getting votes and not being fair as in one side of voters intimidating the other at these so called election lynchings and is basically a way to steal the vote from the other.Yeah right let the voters fight it out.These are nasty tactics.And make it racist.

    March 11, 2008 08:10 pm at 8:10 pm |
  19. Mike, Toronto

    Clinton lost Texas, claiming that she actually won it, in order to stay in the race? What a surprise!

    March 11, 2008 08:10 pm at 8:10 pm |
  20. Annamica, OH

    Hillary won the popular vote, she won the primary. This just goes to show how undemocratic caucuses are. Next time, we need to get rid of this old fashioned system, seriously. And anyone delusional enough to believe Obama won TX because he won a caucus that represents less than 10% of the people who turned out to vote on March 4th really needs to wake up from your "dreams".

    March 11, 2008 08:11 pm at 8:11 pm |
  21. John

    Exactly – when will your late-breaking update (on a topic that has been well known for a week or so) get posted as a headline on CNN?

    March 11, 2008 08:11 pm at 8:11 pm |
  22. Annamica, OH

    Hillary won the popular vote, she won the primary. This just goes to show how undemocratic caucuses are. Next time, we need to get rid of this old fashioned system, seriously. And anyone delusional enough to believe Obama won TX because he won a caucus that represents less than 10% of the people who turned out to vote on March 4th really needs to wake up from your "dreams".

    Hillary 08!

    March 11, 2008 08:11 pm at 8:11 pm |
  23. sacto joe

    FINALLY! For days I've read about the HUGE WIN Clinton had! And now – it's seen as the sheer propaganda it always was!

    I'm SO GLAD to be an Obama supporter. As a life-long Democrat, I'd be MORTIFIED to be a Clinton support after her campaign's refusal to chastise Ferraro for her OBVIOUS bigotry.

    March 11, 2008 08:11 pm at 8:11 pm |
  24. Another Hillary Hater :)

    Let the truth be told! Obama won more delegates in Texas so the count on March 4th is even...by the way...the story in Texas and Ohio is that Obama cut Clinton's lead in both states – where she held a big lead months before the primaries and she was supposed to win anyway. The last I checked the candidate with more delegates wins...enough of the double talk from Clinton on "popular vote" and "big states" and trying to "steal" votes from Florida and Michigan..Clinton know shw is going down and is desperately truing to change the rukes as she goes...typical Clinton...dirty tricks...same o' Washington politics!

    March 11, 2008 08:12 pm at 8:12 pm |
  25. nabee

    Time for Obama to end this Election by March 29, otherwise, Hilary and Bill will squeeze the Democratic Party of every ounce of decency which will pave the way for a John McCain victory. What a shame?

    March 11, 2008 08:12 pm at 8:12 pm |
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