March 11th, 2008
08:00 PM ET
5 years ago

Caucus win gives Obama more Texas delegates than Clinton

 Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.
Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.

(CNN) - Illinois Sen. Barack Obama has won the Texas Democratic caucuses and will get more delegates out of the state than his rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, who won the state's primary, according to CNN estimates.

Under the Texas Democratic Party's complex delegate selection plan, Texas voters participated in both a primary and caucuses on March 4. Two-thirds of the state's 193 delegates were at stake at the primary, while the remaining third were decided by the caucuses.

An additional 35 superdelegates were not tied to either contest. Clinton, of New York, defeated Obama in the primary by a 51-47 percent margin. But results of the caucuses were up in the air on election night and for several days afterward, due to state party rules that did not require local caucus officials to report their results to a centralized location.

Partial caucus results, representing 41 percent of all caucus precincts, showed Obama last week with 56 percent of the county-level delegates chosen at the caucuses to 44 percent for Clinton. The state party says it will not be able to provide a further breakdown of the caucus results from March 4.

After a comprehensive review of these results, CNN estimates that Obama won more support from Texas caucus-goers than Clinton. Based on the state party's tally, Obama's caucus victory translates into 38 national convention delegates, compared to 29 for Clinton.

And though Clinton won more delegates than Obama in the primary, 65 to 61, Obama's wider delegate margin in the caucuses gives him the overall statewide delegate lead, 99 to 94 - or once superdelegate endorsements are factored in, 109 to 106.

CNN's estimate is based on a statistical review, which combined the county-level results provided by the state party with data from the U.S. Census, exit polls and telephone surveys.

That analysis showed that the counties that reported data to the state party last week appear to be a representative cross-section of the Texas population. The analysis also indicates that areas that were won by Obama reported results at essentially the same rate as areas that were won by Clinton.

Every procedure used to statistically model the outcome of the caucuses indicated that Obama had more support than Clinton.

The next step in the delegate-selection process will occur on March 29, when the county-level delegates chosen at the March 4 caucuses will meet in county conventions held across the state. CNN will closely monitor those events and will adjust its delegate estimate for Obama and Clinton, if necessary, based on those results at that time.


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soundoff (145 Responses)
  1. Annamica, OH

    Hillary won the popular vote, she won the primary. This just goes to show how undemocratic caucuses are. Next time, we need to get rid of this old fashioned system, seriously. And anyone delusional enough to believe Obama won TX because he won a caucus that represents less than 10% of the people who turned out to vote on March 4th really needs to wake up from your "dreams".

    Clinton 08!

    March 11, 2008 08:12 pm at 8:12 pm |
  2. Ron

    HILLARY and FERARRO 08 FIGHTERS FOR AMERICA!

    March 11, 2008 08:13 pm at 8:13 pm |
  3. Jay

    Makes no sense.

    Hillary will GO on and WIN.

    March 11, 2008 08:13 pm at 8:13 pm |
  4. yolie in texas

    TEXAS FOR OBAMA YESSSSSSSSSSSSS.

    March 11, 2008 08:13 pm at 8:13 pm |
  5. Nancy

    So, for the Texas Caucuses – are the numbers for delegates from the caucus in the current number listed on CNN of 1591 for Obama and 1467 for Clinton?

    March 11, 2008 08:13 pm at 8:13 pm |
  6. Fran

    I am amazed how the Obama supporters seem to forget that their candidate does not have the 2025 delegates needed to win the nomination. Until he crosses that finish line, Senator Clinton has every right to stay in the race. If you think about it, Senator Clinton is actually doing exceptionally well, considering all of the road blocks that have been put in her way, especially by the press. The negative campaigning is done for Obama by the press. And yet, Senator Clinton is still standing and fighting. I would rather have a president who can fight the fight for herself. I don't want a president who has everything given to him on a silver platter.

    March 11, 2008 08:14 pm at 8:14 pm |
  7. Christian

    Well we could be reasonable and wait for full results, but Clinton wasn't when she delivered victory speeches before caucus results were in so why not do this....
    OBAMA WINS AND I DON'T HAVE TO MOVE TO CANADA, YES!!!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:14 pm at 8:14 pm |
  8. Teresa in Kansas

    Thanks for standing up for change Texas!

    We love you!!!
    Obama 08

    March 11, 2008 08:15 pm at 8:15 pm |
  9. Rob, Ottawa/Canada

    Good for Texas! I hope that I can join with my American friends this November in celebrating the beginning of a new day in America. Yes you can!

    March 11, 2008 08:15 pm at 8:15 pm |
  10. Cory

    This isn't new at all..smaller media outlets reported this a good four or five days ago.

    Like it or not, the media isn't going to retract Hilary's non-existent 'big win.' The longer she's in the race, the more she has to report. Where is Cafferty or Blitzer, asking us all the ramifications of her loss? I'm having trouble understanding why everyone is so nonchalant about something presumably very important.

    She said she needed to win both states, and she didn't–so why is she still in the race?

    March 11, 2008 08:15 pm at 8:15 pm |
  11. SPH

    Hillary Clinton can no longer win the nomination fairly. If she manages to pull it off, she will go into the general election without the support of millions of young people and African-Americans. In short, she is doomed.

    March 11, 2008 08:15 pm at 8:15 pm |
  12. marty from Indiana

    Just like in Wyoming, Hilary will put a spin on it and say that she is happy "to be in the top two winners." "TOP TWO": last time I checked that was in place. You can spin, spin, spin but the truth is the truth.

    March 11, 2008 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |
  13. Amy in Iowa

    Booo Ya!!!! So who won Texas? It is all about the delegates. Go Obama '08!

    March 11, 2008 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |
  14. hjlk

    Is this only thing Obama can do–win caucus with help from AA?

    March 11, 2008 08:16 pm at 8:16 pm |
  15. interesting

    Hello, how can people project who won the caucas when the state states

    Partial caucus results, representing 41 percent of all caucus precincts, showed Obama last week with 56 percent of the county-level delegates chosen at the caucuses to 44 percent for Clinton. The state party says it will not be able to provide a further breakdown of the caucus results from March 4.

    Don't you have to have 100% to make the correct projection.

    Ummmm Obama supporters, if you won why is Hillary still in the race and has not quit. Hmmmm!

    March 11, 2008 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  16. Slap Stick, FLORIDA

    Hmmm I am waiting for CNN to spin this to Obama's favor like they did when she BARELY & NARROWLY won TEXAS. Let's be fair CNN spin it baby spin it. OBAMA HAS MORE DELEGATE allotment that Hillary in Texas. This is where speech lessons comes in for CNN.

    March 11, 2008 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  17. Eki Ehizele

    Oh, my God! This is getting interesting. If the Democratic party still nominates Hillary, then maybe they deserve one another. Meanwhile, outside the U.S, America is being scorned for possessing the judgement of a kindergatten: taking Hillary seriously, hahahaha.

    March 11, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  18. B. Smart

    . . . .Does this mean that Senator Obama actually won the big state?
    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
  19. James E. F. Riley, Sr.

    I am a delegate for Obama in a place called Tom Green County. While conservative in many ways (pro-life, pro-guns, and VERY pro-military), I am very concerned about how George Bush has gotten us into this war, squandered not only treasure but the more valuable soldiers, marined and airmen who have perished as a direct result of lies we were told to get into this war. Obama is right in that he was against this war from the begining.

    I am also concerned that under Bush and Clinton we started officially sactioning 'rendition' and torture. I am concerned about NAFTA and yes, blame the Clinton's for not even meeting with labor leaders when they wanted to discuss the harm NAFTA would cause American workers. I am concerned about illegal wire taps, searches and the loss of so many hard won civil and labor rights. It's time for a real sea change in American politics.

    Yes, Obama has less experience in accepting money from special interests and the Chinese. Yes, he has less experience in saying one thing and doing another. Yes, he is maybe more innocent, less tainted by Washington, yes...he is different from Hillary, he is different from Bush, and finally, I have to say...he is my candidate.

    God Bless America, God Bless the people of the United States of America!

    James E. F. Riley, Sr.

    March 11, 2008 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  20. Mageya

    CNN...finally on the ball...just a bit too slow....

    March 11, 2008 08:19 pm at 8:19 pm |
  21. JUDGE BARKER

    well well well the worm begins to turn yet once ag next will PA and the undetermined college vote flip the boards after all cell phones arnt polled only old fashioned land lines....we shall see

    March 11, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  22. BG - Texas

    This is totally absurd!

    Hillary wins the popular vote by 100,000 voters and gets 4 more delegates than BO. Close to 3 million people voted in the primary.

    The caucus awards BO 9 delegates more when not more than 100,000 of the very same primary voters showed up for the caucus to vote a second time and BO approximately 5,000 more votes than Hillary.

    I attended our caucus and was not surprised that there were more Blacks than Whites/Latinos there. Give Obama campaigner's credit – they rallied the community to show up for the caucuses and HRC folks just sat on their butts thinking that the primaries were more important.

    What you saw in Texas is a once in a lifetime deal. I'm chairing our delegation and will certainly work to get the caucus far away from Texas. Obviously the most unfair, undemocratic thing that I have ever witnessed.

    I wonder what the score would be if the democrats were to emulate the Republican and National Election and have a 'winner take all' election. This would have been over with a long time ago!!

    March 11, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  23. changing times

    Obama has kept his cool. He's run amagnificent campaign and has not subcombed to the mean spirited racist politics Clinton has perpetrated.

    Also have you heard. Obama is getting more delegates from California!!! they announced that on MSNBC

    CNN is behind on this story.

    March 11, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  24. Cindy

    It doesn't matter anymore. Clinton picked up momentum from the Primary that night... that's all that was required to energize her to carry on.

    And the eroding of the Democratic Party continues...

    March 11, 2008 08:20 pm at 8:20 pm |
  25. Mir

    Just goes to show that the democratic primary is a repeat of 2000, where Al Gore won the popular vote but lost because of the electoral college delegates. THe dems were up in arms back then, but now, it's fine because CNN et al paved the way for Obamamania.

    March 11, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
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