March 11th, 2008
08:00 PM ET
5 years ago

Caucus win gives Obama more Texas delegates than Clinton

 Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.
Obama won more delegates in Texas than Clinton.

(CNN) - Illinois Sen. Barack Obama has won the Texas Democratic caucuses and will get more delegates out of the state than his rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, who won the state's primary, according to CNN estimates.

Under the Texas Democratic Party's complex delegate selection plan, Texas voters participated in both a primary and caucuses on March 4. Two-thirds of the state's 193 delegates were at stake at the primary, while the remaining third were decided by the caucuses.

An additional 35 superdelegates were not tied to either contest. Clinton, of New York, defeated Obama in the primary by a 51-47 percent margin. But results of the caucuses were up in the air on election night and for several days afterward, due to state party rules that did not require local caucus officials to report their results to a centralized location.

Partial caucus results, representing 41 percent of all caucus precincts, showed Obama last week with 56 percent of the county-level delegates chosen at the caucuses to 44 percent for Clinton. The state party says it will not be able to provide a further breakdown of the caucus results from March 4.

After a comprehensive review of these results, CNN estimates that Obama won more support from Texas caucus-goers than Clinton. Based on the state party's tally, Obama's caucus victory translates into 38 national convention delegates, compared to 29 for Clinton.

And though Clinton won more delegates than Obama in the primary, 65 to 61, Obama's wider delegate margin in the caucuses gives him the overall statewide delegate lead, 99 to 94 - or once superdelegate endorsements are factored in, 109 to 106.

CNN's estimate is based on a statistical review, which combined the county-level results provided by the state party with data from the U.S. Census, exit polls and telephone surveys.

That analysis showed that the counties that reported data to the state party last week appear to be a representative cross-section of the Texas population. The analysis also indicates that areas that were won by Obama reported results at essentially the same rate as areas that were won by Clinton.

Every procedure used to statistically model the outcome of the caucuses indicated that Obama had more support than Clinton.

The next step in the delegate-selection process will occur on March 29, when the county-level delegates chosen at the March 4 caucuses will meet in county conventions held across the state. CNN will closely monitor those events and will adjust its delegate estimate for Obama and Clinton, if necessary, based on those results at that time.


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  1. Tess in Orlando

    That's right!! wolf make sure you keep telling us about how OBAMA has actually won TEXAS!!! Tell the TRUTH!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  2. Another Hillary Hater :)

    We had 7 years of Bush. A guy who picked fights where we did not need them... I would much rather have a President with Judgement than another "fighter" who endorsed the Iraq War with her vote...

    March 11, 2008 08:21 pm at 8:21 pm |
  3. Jane

    The caucus process is absurd. And Texas highlights this. In the same state, how could a person win the primary by a margin, but lose a caucus? How about because the caucus process does not represent the will of the majority of Dems in an area? It's funny to read what people say about the process who have never had to deal with it. In Colorado, we caucus. It is a lengthy, sometimes aggressive process, that not all voters want to be a part of, especially since a vote was already cast. It really does see to disenfranchise certain groups, like the elderly, single parents, and those in low socio-economic situations. I remember a time when Dems were gung-ho about making sure every last actual vote was counted!
    And as for the Michigan/Florida comments... the candidates were told they couldn't campaign in Michigan and Florida, not that they had to remove their names from the ballots. Why else would Obama's still have been on the FL ballot if he thought he had to remove it? Also, Obama did air crossover ads in the state prior to the election in Florida. Stating the facts would be helpful when people post. And while name calling seems to be going on between the candidates, I don't see any reason for people to be calling others names in the comment section.
    It's sort of ironic that those who support Obama's change message and his mission, are the ones who seem to throw the most stones at others. Try walking the talk.

    March 11, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  4. Hillary unsensord visit youtube. get the picturte yourself.

    Hillary won the primary by 4 percent and Obama won the caucuses by 11 percent. so, if you put all together Obama actually won Texas.
    Obama has won one of the biggest state as well.
    so please recognized that Obama has won big state with more delegate and percentages.

    March 11, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  5. Carrie Pa

    YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  6. Jake, California

    So this means HILLARY IS OUT..as promised by the entire campaign!

    I am awaiting your drop out speech monstrous lady!

    She has to go along with her entire RACIST crew!..

    Go Hillary, go. your image will be a little better now than waiting for more disgrace!

    Can't you see that Democrats don't like you?

    March 11, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  7. Does it matter? :)

    I wish Hillary would just drop out of the race. She is terrible and a manipulative politician. She goes after the poor and Latino vote, and yet she is NEITHER. She tries to pin the African Americans against the Latinos, and yet she enjoys the life of a woman of prosperity. She is not a minority and will never understand the struggles that minorities go through, no matter how many books she reads or how many Latinos or African Americans she hires. At least Obama can relate to everyone, he is a minority and can relate to the struggles that minorities of all nationalities go through, and as he has studied with the countries "majority" and most successful people, he can relate to their needs and understand their struggles. He is the American dream. No matter what Hillary does, she will never understand what it is like to be poor or a minority, yet she claims she understands their needs more than Obama. I can't stand her, she is not Bill Clinton and I wish that she would just drop out. Maybe if she ran a campaign from her heart versus firing her campaign manager and blaming everyone else for her mistakes, she'd be farther along. But the truth is, she is fake and only wants the nomination. I originally was not going to vote for Obama, but he is the only real ticket on the ballot. He has nothing to gain except change. Our country needs heart and that is not Hillary, no matter why lies she spreads.

    March 11, 2008 08:22 pm at 8:22 pm |
  8. changing times

    Why is it just in this election that caucuses are not representative of the will of the people. Why hasn't Clinton rejected caucuses at the beginning of the campaign. Furthermore why hasn't any presidential complained about this before!!!!!

    Because it's ridiculous and self serving for Hillary!!!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  9. John, Las Vegas, NV

    Gee, I wonder if Hillary will take Texas out of her speeches about states won, considering her team said this race was all about "DELEGATES". Based on that, Obama won Texas. My hunch is she will still claim she won it. Why stop lying now???

    March 11, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  10. Relax Joe

    Guess what? THERE ARE NO CAUCUS VOTES IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

    OBAMA'S GOING TO GET CREAMED IN TEXAS.

    March 11, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  11. Amanda in Utah

    Let's hope the media stops reporting that Hillary "won" Texas when Obama actually picked up more delegates there. The Democratic party needs to unite and start thinking about beating McCain this Fall and repairing some of the damage done by Bush (alas, I don't know if we'll ever fully recover from him). If you look at the polls, the candidates and the issues at hand, it seems pretty Obvious that Obama is a stronger candidate who will get more people involved – which is what democracy is all about. It saddens me to see how negative and nasty Hillary has been to someone in her own party – particularly when she is deliberately misinforming people. That isn't leadership – it's deceit, and quite frankly, after 8 years of living with our president's lies and deception, I'm ready for something new and positive.

    OBAMA '08 and '12!

    March 11, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  12. Veronica Petchak

    Oh well we all make mistakes

    March 11, 2008 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  13. daved

    A candidate can win a state even if he or she gets less delegates because of the complicated delegate distribution based on counties and regions. In another word, whoever got the most popular votes win the state.

    During the Texas primary, Hillary got close to 100,000 more popular votes than Obama; therefore, she won Texas. That's the bottom line.

    March 11, 2008 08:24 pm at 8:24 pm |
  14. Ruthie

    I'm actually excited about the hope for change. I admire both Hillary and Barack. I say change now – you may not like all the changes, but if we don't change our direction, now, dramatically – get ready you;ll be in a soup line unless your one of the luckier ones with a million dollars in your pocket. Any amount less you'll loose in the stockmarket or pay at the pumps so don't count on that. Look – the hand writing is already on the wall.

    March 11, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  15. Observer from New York

    Good. Maybe now you guys will stop claiming that Clinton won Texas (because she did not). And, who knows, maybe before too long Clinton herself will stop claiming that she won Texas.

    You guys should start reporting facts, not what you would like to have as facts... (this one is for you Wolf Blitzer who stopped being objective the moment Clinton's campaign started complaining about the media!)

    March 11, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  16. Jessica, MI

    So it's official. Texas is a HYBRID system and Obama won Texas. Simple as that.

    Hillary has lost 14 of the last 16 states. 15/17 if Obama pulls out Mississippi tonight.

    Think she should drop out yet, Hillary supporters?

    Or should she keep slinging dirty filth everywhere and ruin the Dem nominee's chance in the general?

    March 11, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  17. Obama #1

    Obama won the Popular vote, primary and caucus. hes the man!

    March 11, 2008 08:25 pm at 8:25 pm |
  18. Dee

    This is ridiculus! Already they are giving the Caucus to him before it's ever finished. We don't know the actual results until it's all counted. Just like they thought she was going to lose Texas in the Primary. They just knew he was gonna come back and go past her and he never did. They were so sure by his having 75,000 to start that he was going to win and they were shocked that she reigned victorious. I am so sick of this one sided reporting. I also agree with Ger Ferraro. If we say anything against a black we are considered racist but nothing is ever considered racist when it's said against a white. Whites are getting tired of being discrimnated against and it's being done more and more.

    March 11, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  19. uchujin

    Annamica,

    This "antiquated process" is part of what protects our democracy from the tyranny of the status quo. Perhaps if you were more involved in the process you would understand that. Simply showing up to vote isn't enough. Activism is the vigilance that keeps us free and enables to recreate our government to reflect the wishes of the people. If you don't want to be owned by the PACs and special interests then caucusing is the answer. It is much more difficult to "buy" the outcome of a caucus than a vote. Put your "money" (read involvement/activism) where your mouth is.

    March 11, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  20. Vince Los Angeles, CA

    LOL!!! So the TRUTH is ........OBAMA WON TEXAS!!!!!

    March 11, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  21. Mandi Locke

    What amazes me about Hillary is her absolute lack of humility. When she "won big" on March 4th, there was confetti and crowing and Hillary Clinton basking in her "win." As it turns out, she really didn't even win Texas, she has earned less states than Obama, less of the popular vote and less delegates. So why the confetti? I guess when you've had 12 straight losses, you'll take what you can get. Hillary's victories are all in her head.

    March 11, 2008 08:26 pm at 8:26 pm |
  22. Jallen

    I don't get what's taking so long w/ the counts. Almost get the sense these are being delayed intentionally... if they are still not done before the Penn primaries, then there is really something wrong.... Hillary is having a hard enough time trying to make people believe math is just make-believe and she is magically winning, I guess the truth about who won TX wouldn't help her cause here now would it?

    March 11, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  23. Gene

    I keep hearing the Obama sheep saying that if in the end, Obama has more of the popular primary vote overall, but Clinton manages to get enough super delagates to get her the nomination, this will be an outrage. Well, what do you think just happened in Texas? She took the popular vote, but Obama won more delagates on a minority of caucases. I don't hear any of them outraged over this!
    If you listen closely, you can hear the sheep.
    Ob-aaa-maa, Ob-aaa-maa.

    March 11, 2008 08:27 pm at 8:27 pm |
  24. keith

    Congrats Senator Obama on your big win in Texas.

    Once again, Hillary and her followers have trouble with rules. Rules and ethics seem not to matter to the Clinton clan and their supporters as always.

    The RULES in Texas was 2/3 for the primary and 1/3 for the caucus.

    Those were the rules.

    She barely squeaked out the primary. He destroyed her in the caucus.

    Caucuses are all about organization and a strong belief in your chosen candidate.

    This just proves, once again, that Obama supporters believe in their cnadidate. Hillary supporters...not so much.

    March 11, 2008 08:28 pm at 8:28 pm |
  25. TED

    attn all obamamaniacs you get dumber by the second:

    your candidate is a politician like the rest of them his words don';t match his actions he talks big and it comes back to bite him every time. we know hillary's faults her positive outweighs her negative you no nothing about your candidate except he's like a drug that numbs you and makes you high listen up:
    she won texas by 100,000 votes if that's not called winning I give up!! if she gets 4 more del for 100,000 and say he gets 10 more delegates for 2,000 votes I call that a shameful crime and a far cry from what your candidate speaks of change and fairness I don't hear him crying for Florida or Michigan because he's like the rest of them!!

    You are fooling yourself and no matter what charm he tries he can't win us over we see through him and actually will stick with hillary's faults anytime over his wolves clothing and projecting this honest to god look when he's a sham a shame and a bluff. Bamboozle and hoodwinking all you nuts!!1

    March 11, 2008 08:29 pm at 8:29 pm |
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