50/50 delegate split

Theres a big ole slap in your FACE Billary!!!!!!

Ha Ha Ha. Looks like Hillary's push to get the Florida superdelegates just blew up.

after the 2000 debacle, i wouldn't trust florida to do a revote, especially by mail!

they broke the rules, understood the consequences. you made your bed, now lie in it.

LOLOLLOLLLLLLLLLLL i knew it!!!! about time someone took the iniative since Howard dean apparently was'nt going to…If the democratic party let Hillary and her republican cohorts get her way then Mccain will definately be in the white house! i knew my party is smarter than that and would'nt let this happen!!!!!

Great news! we need to send a clear message to our children that our actions have consequences. The rules were put in places one year ago, why can't we abide by them? Is does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we must play by the rule. The DNC - FL and MI leaders need to send out a clear message that there must be no re-vote.

Thank you Florida. Most likely after all that money is spent.
with the race going as it is, the voters would be split.
I, for Obama would have wanted to see the Fla votes
and Voters respected and feel the damage has been done.

A mail in vote wouldn't be real fair. Wonder what would happen
to the ballots that would be mailed for the people that are deceased
of have moved and vote elsewhere. There would be no way to
track them and it could be a mess.

Retired Professional w/Woman of 63 for Obama 2008

This is exactly why Putin of Russia calls their democracy different than ours? P.S. You might also say the same for Pakistan? The Neo- Democrat

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OBAMA IS NOT GETTING THE WHITE VOTE AND IN PARTTICULAR THE WHITE MALE VOTE. AND OLDER PEPLE ARE COMMITED TO HILALRY BACAUSE OF WHAT A CLINTON WHITE HOUSE WOULD MEAN TO SENIORS, IT MAY IN FACT GO TO MCCAIN IF OBAMA GETS THE NOMINATION. AND ITS NO SECRET OBAMA DOESNT GET THE LATINO VOTE AND THEY WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN IF THEY DONT HAVE THEIR CANNIDATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE. AND THAT WILL MOST LIKELY LOOSE US FLORIDA, AND BRING STATES LIKE OHIO, AND ARKANSAS AND OTHER STATES HILLARY WOULD MOST LIKEY CARRY INTO QUESTION, ALONG WITH STATES SHE MIGHT COULD WIN LIKE TEXAS THAT OBAMA DOESNT HAVE AS MUCH OF A CHANCE IN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD LOOSE THE ELECTION AFTER ALL.

Sorry New York South, your state Dems decided to move up your primary even after being told by the DNC that you would not be seated. What do you think they were kidding?

Florida should fire everyone in there states government! They make this conutry look like a joke every election year! I believe the only fair way is a revote… and it should come out of the current states DNC party members pocket. They are the reason that THIER people are not being heard! If they did not break the rules to begin with, we would not be in this mess. Sad really that the whole state get punished for a couple of dumb people with power.

Hey Florida - you might want to pay attention when you vote next time. How many times do you have to screw up an election? You did a great job with Bush - not!

How else do they expect their votes to count? I don't care who you support, it is utterly ridiculous to believe that the primary held in January was fair. Senator Obama followed the rules given to him by the party and was not on the ballot. Senator Clinton, however, did not. Now she wants the votes to count. Are you kidding me?

Florida's political party leaders are incompetent idiots. Under no circumstances can a re-vote be trusted. Florida's delegates must be split 50/50 or not seated at all. Perhaps Florida will learn how to conduct proper elections sometime in the next decade.

I agree that Florida doesn't need a redo. Their primary should stand as is because all candidates were on the ballot. Michigan is a different story. Even though Obama chose to remove his name, It wasn't on the ballot. I feel the voters in both of these important states should have their voices heard.

I think a re-do is definitely in order but not something as unscientific as a mail in.
A simple poll at Ben & Jerry's shops across the state should be conducted.
Voters would be given a choice of chocolate or vanilla.
A third choice: The dream ticket of chocolate/ vanilla swirl. Uh…make that VANILLA/ chocolate swirl.

Florida is off the table Hillary.

It looks like a 50/50 split.

Let's see Ferraro stating the true feelings of the Clinton campaign, Miss. loss, Texas caucus win with Obama getting more delegates than her out of Texas and now this. And Peter Paul on the way.

When it rains it pours.

equal split or nothing…… only fair thing left to do.

I can not imagine how the a decision can be reached with the vote as is. The candidates did not campaign in FL. To seat the delegates based on the original vote would not work. In every state the Democratic vote has been significantly higher than the Republican vote. However, in FL the opposite was true which seems to suggest many voters stayed home knowing their vote was null & void.

It is simple. The FL voters should oust their elected officials and the original rules agreed to by all should be followed. The only other plausible solution would be a democratic only re-vote or a caucus.

FLORIDA LAREADY VOTED ONCE!!!! BOTH NAMES WERE ON THE BALLET, AND THE CAMPAIGNING AND ADVERTISING WERE ACTUALLY EQUALL IN THIS ONE…NO ONE DID!! IT WAS 100% FAIR, AND NOW SOME PEOPLE WANT A RE-DO. I MEAN WHAT IF THEY DONT GET WHAT THEY WANT THE NEXT TIME…A BEST 2 OUT OF 3. FOR GOODNESS SAKES LET THOSE VOTES AND DELEGATES STAND AND WORK ON THE REAL ISSUE, MICHIGAN!!! WHERE IT WASNT AN EXACTLY FAIR CONTEST! COME ON, GET IT RIGHT> DONT WASTE MONEY AND TIME. GET THOSE DELEGATES SEATED AND STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT..

Well seat them as is.. that's simple.

Obama can't be mad if his voters didn't do their duty to vote.

Same with Michigan. Leave the "uncommitted" votes "uncommitted" no way you can give them to Obama and HE took his name off the ballot.

Political experience and executive experience are now points that Hillary can use to convince voters that she is the best nominee for president.

Um, folks bashing Hillary- this is actually GOOD for her (read the article again). And good for Florida and for the party. We are supposed to be the party that COUNTS the votes, remember?!

I dont see why the DNC wants a re-vote in Florida when all the candidates names were on the ballot. In any case, most Latinos will vote for McCain in the General election.

Well, there goes Florida for the democratic party in the general election. If Clinton is not the nominee, we might as well call it quits.

What some of you Obama supporters are missing is that the FL Democratic party doesn't support revotes because they want their last primary to stand.

Hillary won, and Obama was the only candidate to run ads in FL.

The 50/50 delegate split thing isn't fooling anyone. That is basically saying that Florida's vote doesn't count. Or should I say "nobody is falling for that Okeydoke".

THATS THE BEST WAY TO GET OUR VOTES IN FLORIDA

GOING TO MCCAIN NOW

the votes cant be counted as they are. many voters voted before election day, voted for a canidate that didnt win that state. shouldnt the absentee ballots count?

Why 50-50 ? Hillary won, everyone was on the ballot. Obama had an advantage , he had an ad running in Florida. Even though he says that it was something he couldn't control, he broke the rules. Most Obama fans say that Hillary didn't "play fair" because she didn't take her name off the ballot in MI. She didn't have to and it wasn't against the rules. She played it smart, give her credit. Florida does not need a do over. Hillary won, she should get the votes, all of them.

If they demand the current vote as it stands, then the Florida democrats are going to have to suck it up and understand that their delegates will not count.

If Florida voters feel disenfranchised, they can blame it on their arrogant governor and their state Democratic party leaders and vote them out of office when they get a chance.

The nerve!

Thank god!!! They can vote in the real election. I lived in Florida for two years and it will always have a special place in my heart, but how many elections dose this state get to mess up? That is the real question.

Florida understands the rules and have decided to play by them.

Hillary should learn to do the same.

Michigan and Florida being allowed in because a black man is
leading, won't fool anyone. Thats whats wrong with democrats today we make the rules as the game is being played

Sorry earl the great people of florida will not stand by and let another crooked politician steal another election….

no, no revote.

I didn't vote because it didn't count. and it shouldn't count. you can't be making rules after the game.

However, the split of the delegate should reflect those who voted through out the nation and who respected the rules of the party.

Never in my lifetime I have seen the democrats so split as they are now. It did not happen during Carter, Clinton, Al Gore, Kerry but it happened now and guess who is to blame. Obama is the root cause of splitting the party, it would have not happened if anyone against Hillary but Obama.

All his big talk of hope and uniting the country, he ended up dividing his own party. Shame on you Obama. I wish people who voted for him during Super Tuesday had seen more of him that they see now and he would not be where he is now to brag about winning more states that Hillary, which are red states and will go to the Republicans anyway.

I agree 50/50 for both states, and also give the super delegates 30 days to decide then slit the rest of the there votes 50/50 then let them battle it out to the end.

The question is should we get hillary some aspirin? Cause you know she is gonna have a heart attack lol.

It was not the average person in florida that moved the vote up so why should they be punished for something they had no control over they were just told when to vote.

check mate!

I don't think there should be a revote in Florida. The votes should stand as they are. Both candidates were on the ticket and ALL voters had a chance to mark their ticket.

Besides, lets give Al Sharpton something to do.

I see some who post in here from Europe who love Hillary so much. Maybe because thay are so very left socialist like she is. I am from Korea. In asia when one lies and cheat so much to grabbing power. We call those the Dictators.

What makes Florida think their delegates should be seated now? NOW WAY! Florida voted early in violation of the rules knowing full well the consequences. FLORIDA, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE A SENSIBLE ELECTION! Get real. No seats for Florida delegates in the Democratic convention. This whole aruguement is an outrage.

if Obama wins the nomination latinos will support McCain. without the latino vote Obama can't win the white house that"s a fact!!!!

thanks florica. good judgement.

thanks pelosi for your good judgement too.
thanks dean for holding your grounds.

A 50/50 split of the delegates is the only fair way to go now. They broke the rules and shouldn't get any special treatment or any money.

so far it doesn't show that voters are voting based on racial difference but now cnn is making an issue that it is. There is something wrong with these pictures. Please let's make these elections about who would be the best candidate for Democratic Party; it looks like cnn is doing good job-dividing voters by pressing issues on racial elections. It is disappointing to see white voter and black voters are the main issues of the elections. The way I see it this is an election of American people are participating in all age and all ethnic group. This change should be embraced.

Both Clinton and Obama were on the ticket in Florida. Neither had campaigned there. I think they should take the Florida votes as is and seat the delegates. Obama may complain that if he campaigned there that he would of done better if not win Florida. I believe if we were to have new primaries in other states that Obama would not do as good or even loose to Hilary. She is gaining and he is falling. Even in todays primary in Mississippi, Hilary is doing better than expected. Plus in the lates polls Obama has dropped a couple of points in PA. The Obama camp wants a 50/50 because any other way would mean a Clinton vitory.

Hilary '08

Robby
Kenai, Alaska

Why do I get the feeling… they want to get away with… everything?

No revote? So Hillary gets more delegates per the illegal vote if the DNC allows them to be seated?

are you Obama groupies afraid your preacher will lose in these states is that your problem all he has to do is write another sermon he's real good at speech making!!!

Stick to our your stance Florida. You had a legitimate election, even though Obama ran ads in your state when he wasn't supposed to. Votes and delegates SHOULD be counted!

What I would like to know is Why Gov. Christ is screaming so loud for these delegates to be seated when it was his decision to not have them count in the first place? Probably because he's Republican? He can now "look" like he's really working hard for all FL voters when he knows the chances of a revote is slim to none! I wouldn't trust that guy!

And Clinton only wants them seated NOW that she is behind………. interesting that she understood and agreed they wouldn't be seated when she thought the race would be over on Super Tuesday.

To the SUPERDELEGATES…….. please, end this nightmare for the sake of our country and the hate and racial divides that are happening before our eyes. What must the world think of us? End this please!

I have a question for John King, actually.

Isn't the total delegate number (2025) based on the calculation AFTER FL and MI were excluded?

Won't including them (via re-vote, or even re-seating ) increase the final delegate number significantly?

When John King does his fabulous job of illustrating the different delegate scenarios, when the hypothetical inclusion of these two states does not alter the final number.

I don't understand why either Democrat would want to make that final number higher, given the fact that historically, given time and the ability to campaign in any state, Obama closes and exceeds any high gaps in delegate wins. Why would Clinton want this at ALL? Especially when FL has been a red state in the general election for 30 years?

The vote was done, let Hillary have her share of delegates that she rightfully won. Obama was on the ticket just like she was.

Nuff respect to the Florida House Democratic delegation's position against re-votes and allowing the DNC to figure a way to seat the 210 delegates.

Chris Dodd (D-Conn) came up with a reasonably good solution that costs not a dime and the delegates will still be seated. He said the DNC should split the delegates 50/50.

But since John Edwards was still in the race when Florida (as well as Michigan) held its contest, I think it is only fair to Edwards that he be given some delegates. So, give Hillary and Obama 40% each and Edwards the remaining 20%.

If party rules allow for withdrawn contesants to bequeath delegates to other contestants still in the race, then Edwards can make his endorsement and bequeath his delegates to the contestant he endorsed. Or he can refuse to endorse and simply split his delegates evenly between Hillary and Obama.

Truth be told, if all this confusion in the Democratic race is a sign of how the Democrats will run the country if they win the White House, then I welcome all distressed democrats to vote John McCain in November.

Read again folks. They want the votes that were cast already to be seated as it. Meaning Hillary won!!!

Anyone want to wager how Florida will screw up an election in 2012?

In a society based on rules cemented in fairness and commonsence how can any Dem. want a re-vote in the two states that opposed the common interest of the dem.'s nation-wide by breaking the rules of the DNC.To allow a re-vote or count those delegates to be seated would be a rewarding them (local party leaders) for their actions.Let the voters of those states work it out in their own state elections next time they come around.they (the local party leaders and officials) all knew the election was coming but did nothing but wait to try to steal the spotlight and pine for media attention After all …all the candidates agreed not to campaign in those states,why change up now?.Without rules we are little better than THEY who we oppose."A divided against its self cannot stand!"

If they want the delegates seated let's be fair 50/50…… period…… anything else is biased based on the candidates.

Let it be split 50/50 and leave it at that. The election system was broken because name recognition gave Hillary a huge advantage early in the primary season, and that edge has been slipping away the longer the elections go on.

Time will tell, who has the Bias….. Democracy????

Florida, stick to your votes!! NO one has the right to strip people's voice!! Obama broke the rule and played the ad in Florida! ! Democrats leaders are gang of losers! within 30 years, only the clintons can win the general election!

Is it me or is evryone blaming the DNC instead o taking responsibilty. It was GOvernor Crist( a Republican) and governor Granholm ( a Clinton supporter). How can the DNC choose which rule to enforce?
Floridians are very stupid to not point the finger at themselves. THis always happen with Florida when the Democrats have a candidate that pumps them up. This goes back to Al Gore…LOL!

Good for them. As long as they also don't have any delusions of counting January's poisoned results.

If a revote was done despite the rules which were put in place way before the primarys then the party would have been crushed!…question: why was'nt Billary calling for a revote months ago?? answer: because she was ahead!!!….The PEOPLE of Florida and Michigan knew the rules and understood them and it's funny to me how they'r not the ones complainging about a revote it's HILLARY AND HER REPUBLICAN FRIENDS…well im VERY happy democracy is served and justice pervailed….VERY PROUD OF YOU FLORIDA DELEGATION GUYS

Whatever you partisan people is trying to do, just make sure that the voice of your citizens are heard.

There is no possible explanation to the fact that the right of Florida people to elect a President is ripped off because of the moving up primary date that was decided by someone else!

So the people of Florida will not be heard and Obama supporters are celebrating. Typical.

Those 50:50 split is just so stupid! Obama, if you are afraid of re-vote, just let Florida and MI know.

CNN ON ELECTION NIGHT…

"AND FLORIDA GOES TO SEN. JOHN MCCAIN"

I WONDER WHY?

Florida's House Democratic delegation is not the voters…what do the people want to do. They are the ones being punished. Ask them, not the politicians!!!!!

If Obama is so sure that he would be the frontrunner, then why is he so afraid of a re-vote whether at the polls or by mail?

50/50 does not make sense.

FLORIDA TALLY: Hillary: (870,986) 50% Obama: (576,214) 33%

SInce BOTH were on the ballot, just divide the delegates proportionaly to the votes. Duh!
Why re-vote?

Michigan is another story. Re-vote.

Some of you Obama people are just naive and crazy. HELLO, either Obama or Hillary will need FL and MI to win the general election and ticking the people off in both the states are not smart especially FL. Some of Obama comments about FL won't help win the state in the end. This is not good, its looks good for Obama now, but in the end this not good at all.

The vote that Florida had without any campaigning by any candidate was basically a popularity contest driven by name recognition, Florida's leaders made the decision to have a vote without seated delegates… those leaders should pay for a do-over with time for the candidates to campaign there.

Why not let Floridas vote count as is since Obamas and Clintons names were not on the ballot. Then let Michigan revote since Clintons name was on their ballots and Obamas wasn't.Or just seat them and spend the next 4 yrs changing the system so we all vote in the primarys on the same day.

I'm glad they won't do a mail in ballot as there's far too much likelihood of fraud. And I don't think splitting the votes 50-50 is a good idea either considering that Obama didn't earn a 50-50 vote. If Obama had taken FL by such a huge margin, people would be screaming to prevent a 50-50 split. Let them keep the same percentages with the original votes cast…..and finally put this thing to rest. The DNC and the governors totally screwed this up and the people should not have to pay for their incompetence.

Breaking news - Since every candidate was on the ballot and Obama's ads were also televised there, DNC decides to keep Florida votes as polled and delegate distributed accordingly.

No re-do!!

If you had the sense to vote, then why should your vote not count?

Any re-do would be unfair — just as unfair as anyone who didn't choose to vote would say it is.

This state needs to follow the rules and appeal the the Credentials Comittee to be seated at the convention.

Period!

FOR ALL THOES THAT COMMENTED, PLEASE RE-READ THE ARTICLE. FLORIDA-UCH!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we a D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y??????????????????

The Democratic National Committee has no right to tell the voters in Florida and Michigan that they mean nothing to our electoral process!

I am a big Obama supporter, and I don't want to see HRC getting any closer to winning, but not at the expense of our basic constitutional principals…!

Unfortunately Ferraro told the truth, for keep the
political correctness, she has to be blamed and clinton
has to come out clarify. I have said a couple of times,
Obama's win won't "make draem come to true", (somebody in
these forum also have the same dream), but intensify the
racial problem. You can close eye say 90% black vote for him
because they love him, but non-black criticizes him is racist.
Don't vote somebody because "his dream comes true", if he/she
cannot manage a country, his/her dream will be at the expense
of whole the country.

Obama selling hope and change is like a car salesman
selling a perfect car, but you (americans) just can't
afford the sticker price.

There is no half-baked democracy. There is no genuinely democratic election that does not involve campaigns. Thus, the only fair game is dividing Florida delegates 50/50. Of course, Clinton campaign won't stop to play take-it-all game, given the chance. No revote, no 50/50 will lead democratic party into a disaster, a disaster which only Republicans will celebrate. Already signs are in. Democratic party is very much divided.

Obama supporters(Pennysylvania for Obama, Chris),

spin all you want, if Obama gets GOP vote it's because he will unite the party. If hillary gets same vote,it's unfair. What's wrong with Obama supporters,all you say is where is Hillary tax returns. Hillary tax returns for past 20years have been in public domain, she said she will release return for this year in April. So you guys need to shut up because she will be releasing returns, where are the papers for relationship between Rezko & Obama. Obama does not even respond to that question, Hillary is getting GOP votes because they realize she is the best candidate. In past Obama used to get those but now they support Hillary because they know she will be the best candidate for president. Here are 2 things for Obama supporters
1. How Obama respond to his compaign presenting to Canadian Embasy that Obama's NAFTA comments were just POLITICAL BUT NOT POLICIES TO FIX IT.\
2.Obama top adviser said His view on Iraq war is just political BUT HAS NO PLANS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS.

THose 2 things say that whatever stump/rhetoric speech Obama gives on trail is just political not policies. THAT TELLS ME HE SAYS/DO ANYTHING DURING TO WIN NOMINATION JUST LIKE GEORGE W.BUSH, WE ALL KNOW WHAT BUSH GAVE US IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, YOU WILL REALIZE HOW REAL OBAMA IS WHEN HE ACTUALLY GET CHANCE TO FIX ISSUES,HE IS GIVING THIS SWEET HOPE BASED RHETORIC SPEECH TO JUST WIN ELECTION,JUST TYPICAL WASHINGTON POLITICS AND OLD WASHINGTON POLITICAL GAME.

KC Atlanta…if Florida doesn't have a redo, the voters who didn't participate the first time because it wasn't supposed to count won't be having their voices heard.

If Florida is to count, it needs to have a new contest in which voters know that their vote will count BEFORE they cast it.

Good call…..

Can Obama have several running mates?

VP No.1 : Latino,

No.2 : female,

No.3: blue collars,

No.4 : one from kennedy,

No.5: one from kerry.

……..

Obama supporters(Pennysylvania for Obama, Chris),

spin all you want, if Obama gets GOP vote it's because he will unite the party. If hillary gets same vote,it's unfair. What's wrong with Obama supporters,all you say is where is Hillary tax returns. Hillary tax returns for past 20years have been in public domain, she said she will release return for this year in April. So you guys need to shut up because she will be releasing returns, where are the papers for relationship between Rezko & Obama. Obama does not even respond to that question, Hillary is getting GOP votes because they realize she is the best candidate. In past Obama used to get those but now they support Hillary because they know she will be the best candidate for president. Here are 2 things for Obama supporters
1. How Obama respond to his compaign presenting to Canadian Embasy that Obama's NAFTA comments were just POLITICAL BUT NOT POLICIES TO FIX IT.\
2.Obama top adviser said His view on Iraq war is just political BUT HAS NO PLANS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS.

THose 2 things say that whatever stump/rhetoric speech Obama gives on trail is just political not policies. THAT TELLS ME HE SAYS/DO ANYTHING DURING TO WIN NOMINATION JUST LIKE GEORGE W.BUSH, WE ALL KNOW WHAT BUSH GAVE US IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, YOU WILL REALIZE HOW REAL OBAMA IS WHEN HE ACTUALLY GET CHANCE TO FIX ISSUES,HE IS GIVING THIS SWEET HOPE BASED RHETORIC SPEECH TO JUST WIN ELECTION,JUST TYPICAL WASHINGTON POLITICS AND OLD WASHINGTON POLITICAL GAME.

Please remember that Obama ran 30 days of advertising on cable in Florida prior to the Primary, and no one else did and still lost. The presidential vote was not the only issue on the Ballot in Florida. They also had State measures and issues that needed to be voted on, but did not vote. If the Obama people didn’t come out to vote for their STATE measures, because they didn’t care, that is beside the point. They had the same chance that ALL Floridians had to vote, not just for president, but for all the issues on the Ballot.

Obama REALLY lost that vote, because he ran those ads, and he blanketed the state with them. It proves that his support is for HIM, not for any party or issue.

Just reading the blogs and listening to those who are not just for Obama but HATE the Clintons is not change, it's ultra liberal feel good voting and race based support, which is perfectly legal, and fine. Just don't call it "change."

Obama represents the old Chicago Democratic party machine, the old way of taking money, and playing an insiders game, which is the only reason he is in the Senate (and Allen Keys).

I want a President I can trust to make the life or death decisions that will certainly come our way. Those decisions need to be based on experience in something other than voter registration and representing special interest groups on a local level. One Bush was enough, two was a mistake, and a third…….dangerous.

cnn on election night…

"and florida goes to john mccain"

i wonder why?

I'll tell you something, if I was a democrat, I would be revolting against them right now. I' switch to republican. How can they say people should be stripped of their rights because of what someone else did? Maybe the democratic party will need to see the results of their actions come the general election when the democrats either decide not to vote in Florida or Michigan or else decide to vote republican. They are just asking for it.

I think the voters who voted for Clinton would be outraged, if the votes were split down the middle. To make it fair for all parties….DON'T COUNT THEM A T ALL OR HAVE A REDO….Period!

Hillary will be screaming mad for her investment losses in pharmacutical drug companies intwined in her forced bogus health plan when statistics show how many decide they no longer need anti-depressants when Barack Obama becomes our next President Of United States Of America! Honesty & Hope travel far and wide… Oh dearie, Hillie.. your hurry and rush to deceive by flying off to Fla. tricks and cheating rules isn't showing the BEST of judgment AGAIN!!! You're running out a blame, ignorance and scare tactics little missy…
Now please, put some of your campaign funds from lobbyists towards a new, crystal-clear mirror!

What the …?

Florida is a total mess.

I am sick of their own self-made troubles.

Just spilt them 50-50, seat them, and end this fiasco.

Florida not only brought us Bush in 2000, but is now trying to screw 2008 up.

All you folks posting comments — check the facts first.

Florida is ruled by republicans.
The republicans moved the promaries.

HOWARD DEAN decided to punish Florida — Howard Dean is the one person responsible for this mess.

BOTH CANDIDATES were on the ballot.

OBAMA ran ads in Florida after pledging not to campaign there.

Florida voters and Florida democrats DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE —
they turned out in large numbers to send a message to Howard Dean.

We need to count their vote as is.

This is how it works:

Obama snatched the baton from clinton, he ran with it, and he will stumble. And when that happens, he'll make Ralph Nader seem like a friend.

Just wait. I promise you.

Florida had a primary already with ALL CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT!!! Consider the results of the primary held on January for Florida. Michigan is the only state that needs a revote.

Democrats look like idiots when they are not democratic at all. Same thing goes for that absurd Texas caucus: not democratic at all.

To Ronnie in Charlottesville………It's people like you who give the US a bad name. Grow Up!!!!!!!!!

You people are in denial. These boards are a prime example of why neither Hilary or Obama will win the general election. Go ahead give yourselves a hand for a job well done and it's only March too!!! Way to go.

The voters in Florida and Michigan should be upset with whoever made the decision to hold the primary early, but they should not be able to re-vote. They should subtract the number of delegates from the total needed to become a nominee.

There should be a re-vote to give both candidates a fair shot at the nomination.I believes people's right to vote should overule any party's rules.This is not football,this is people's future and right ,win lose or draw.However I still finds it hard to believe florida voters and poll stations was not properly inform about this in the first place.The DNC should let everyone know not to put any democrats on the ballot then we would not have that problem.I strongly believe this was done deliberately by a RNC run state. wink wink.

If the Obama camp doesn't work to get the Florida/Michigan voters a chance, then it proves he cares more about politics than his rhetoric. Without his integrity, there's no chance to beat McCain.

Congratulation on the Mississippi primary. Hopefully reverse racism is enough to win the general election too.

Ferraro was just being honest.

Lets look at the Hillary victories. She won Texas, OPPS after the Caucus votes she actually lost Texas. Well she won Michigan… yep she just barely beat the only other candidate who was 'no preference'. Okay Okay, she did win Ohio, uh huh after she crafted a decieptfull trick about Obama and Nafta with no time for the truth to come out before the vote. Hillary, you shameless monster. Drop out before you desroy the democrat Party.

I am not surprised since Nelson is an Obama supporter. Well Obama supporters congrats McCain just won the election.

o and by the way there was no rule about not being on the vote they just weren't allowed to campaign and neither hilary or obama did so it was fair in florida

All the candidates were on the ballot in Florida and Hillary won fair and square.I don't think Florida should do another preliminary.I do think their delegates should be seated from the election that already took place.Michigan however,should have another preliminary because only Hillary's name was on the ballot.

Florida was apples to apples with respect to the candidates. LET IT STAND
Michigan is another kind basket

to james in bama
go sleep you need it……..

Come on people Obama does not want those votes to count… If they did he would be losing.. I know I will vote for him in the Prim. but not in the Gen election.. lol

We must hold Florida and michigan to the same standard as we would apply to our own families. If you tell your children there will be consequences for doing something against the rules…then you must follow through.

I could take my Slapping Stick to our political leaders here in Florida. A mail in vote, please my grandmother would be sent a ballot and she has not been with us in over 10 years.

50/50 split in Florida. No extra money needed!! What's wrong with Bill Nelson with this idea.

None of this matters. Clinton will still get the Nomination regardless of what happens between now and the Convention. The backroom Democratic Machine will decide who it will be and Clinton has their support. End of story.

P.S. I am an Obama '08 supporter, and I believe that in all fairness there needs to be a revote according to the stated DNC rules that were laid out beforehand in both Florida and Michigan.

They (Floridians) chose this from the beginging. That is the end of the story. The choice was made and the consequences were understood. Their bed is made and now they need to go to sleep.

I find it amusing that everyone is clamoring for Florida and Michigan's votes, yet 3 months ago, everyone, including the DNC, said "Don't worry about it, it won't be a big deal".

I didn't vote for a single one of the idiots in our (Florida) legislature responsible for this debacle, and I feel the current DNC leadership should be tossed out on it's head for their complete failure to negotiate a settlement in the Fall, before this became a typical DNC fiasco.

Jay in Kansas clearly wants this election to go to the Supreme Court, because leaving Michigan as is where Obama followed the established rules and removed himself from contention would guarantee that.

Well, they can go with what the popular vote is throughout the country….Obama…that is fair.

The Florida House Democratic delegation must be Hillary supporters. They want to seat the delegates at the DNC without a fair election and with no penalty.

Sorry Florida. There is no fair way to count your vote. Blame your state leaders and Howard Dean for this mess.

No advertising does not equal "100% fair" and equal when one candidate has incredible name recognition and the other has an odd foreign sounding name, the vote that was taken was not fair, let the voters of Florida make an informed choice. The ones responsible for violating the rules and wasting Florida taxpayer money by having a vote that didn't count, owe the Florida taxpayers the cost of a new Primary.

Just count the one that was held in January. Voters already speaked their voice. DNC has no right to silence the voice, just count the results. And don't take away the victory that belongs to Clinton!

haha. Democratic Leadership to the rescue. The DNC just torpedo'd the U.S.S Shrillary and she's sinking down to the brimey bottom.

OBAMA 08!

I agree that Obama was the only candidate runnig ads in Florida and his excuse was that he bought it nationally but when he was campaining in Tx it was only ads for Texas. I have one thing to say, stop bashing our two candidates or we will never win in November. We have two great candidates, thats why is so great!

Above the Fray is crazy. There will be no 50/50 in fla. We are a winner take all state and we won't have it any other way.
If we have a do-over it will be a primary since our state law won't allow anything else. For us to have a mail in they would have to change the law and I don't see that happening. So we should let our votes stand and give it to the winner Hillary Clinton. Obama is just mad that his ad's didn't work here. If our state doesn't get counted or it is given to Obama this is one Dem that will be voting for Ralph Nader or John MaCain along with alot of other Fla voters.

BARACK IS LEADING A GREAT CAMPAIGN AND CONTINUES TO NOT INSULT CLINTON……AND YOU STILL DONT LIKE HIM…..OK I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING

We had a vote. I voted. Why not go with the millions of votes already counted. We all know it is hard for Florida to re-count.

This has the Obama "faith-based" religious zealots so happy. But if you think you can just "not count" 5 million people in Michigan and Florida, you're crazy…and naive. But if you think an African-American who has spent the last two years campaigning for president instead of voting on any legislation has a chance to beat a POW, you're crazy again.

Hillary supporters will stampede to McCain rather than vote for Obama.

Obama/Colin Powell '08!

I just want to say that we are not serious with our reasoning. What is the need for a 50/50 split? You are better off leaving the Floridians alone. Afterall they will vote for republicans in the fall.

Whis a 50/50 split fair to?

Andrew, The facts are that both campaigns held "fundraisers" in Florida before the primary election and Obama even ran commercials. Yes Hillary was in Florida the day of the primary, she was not campaigning and most of us did not know she was here til the votes were counted. And to be perfectly clear both candidates were on the ballot!

Split the votes evenly and get on with it.

Break the rules pay the penalty. End of story. Quit whining!

Scoreboard Obama

. . . .Floridians have had eight long years to get their act together and prepare
for an election. You would think that after a stolen election and 8 Bush
years later they would be ready on day one. Please don' let us have to
wait for them to count chads again

Obama. 08.

The the State of Florida cannot afford to do a re-vote. Since 2006, Florida has had 2 major hurricanes. They're still trying to clean up that mess. I don't blame the DNC for opposing the re-vote. Clinton went against the rules. The deal is done. Now, deal with that.

Obama 2008

There's no way in hell that those deligates would be seated as is. The rule is the rule. They are determined to change the rules and steal this nomination. Every time a black person demonstrates superiority you simply change the rules. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

What kind of FRACKELL NACKKEL BULL is this? Rules r rules! How can we as americans attempt to help establish Afghanistan with democracy & free & honest elections but yet and still spinless Howard Dean was considering to break the rules. Maybe he got a phone call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Police Officer (STL)
Obama supporter

Please CATMOM…. Give it a break…. Your crook is having to walk back through all the old political mud she's slung about this whole champange… She's LOSING!!!!!!

HILLARY and FERARRO 08 FIGHTERS FOR AMERICA

50/50 won't happen.

Florida wants the vote to stand.

It either stands or a re-vote.

50/50 is moronic and absurd.

They know the Latin and Cuban vote there will easily go for HILLARY!

HIllary!! Hillary!

Obama cannot win the general election..I am rejoicing in every RED state he wins..It goes to show you how fallen the democrats are there..

Y2K there was Florida recount. If Democrats want to win 2008 presidential election, the 210 delegates should divided by the existing rule and existing voting results.

James in Bama needs to get his facts straight. Not everyone played fair. Obama was caught running ad's in Fla. Hillary and everyone else played fair not HIM.

Since neither Obama nor Clinton campained in Florida and they both were on the ballot there, Florida delegates should be seated as is.

And since Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, they should have a redo in some way there, mail-in or any other.

This will be fair to both candidates and will save a lot of money and efforts.

Dems '08

I know I am willing to donate $1000 for a revote.

Idiots.. thats all I seem to see here. Hillary has made some of you people just as divisive as her campaign. Rules are rules, nobody cared about Michigan and Florida until Hillary started loosing.

I guess the Patriots should ask for a rematch too since they felt they were destined? Give me a break..

They're saying they want to seat the January election delegates. Since they were the ones that got us into this mess I'm thinking their opinion is worth just about NOTHING right now.

Florida should leave the vote as is. Barack was on the ticket. He wasn't invisible.

Just seat the delegates.

Michigan is the only one they should redo.

Both candidates agreed to the rules. I think its wise to leave it at that, next time Florida & Michigan will be wiser.

What's done is done.

OBAMA 08!

…sigh…Let them campaign and do another vote. I can't see how anyone can justify an election without campaigning. Florida will go republican in the end because of Hillary…if only she could have kept her word.

Hillary won Florida.
Leave it and forget it.

I am against having a recount in Florida and Michigan. They broke the rules. They wanted to have a larger say in the democratic nomination by holding their primaried earlier. Noe, if we did do a "revote" they will end up being that "deciding factor" in the democratic nominee.

They broke the rules… let them vote in November!

This does'nt surprise me. I'm sure the GOP is Loving it!
DNC get your act together. Your your own worse enemy.

The Dems are going to find a way to blow this. I think the Daily Show has aptly titled this primary season. Clinton is doing all she can to elect McCain.

Of course Clinton, and her backers in Florida especially, do not believe they must abide by any rules.

I can understand how Repugnicans can vote for her, but how people calling themselves Democrats can vote for this sleazeball is beyond me.

Latinos have no reason to be aganist Obama. Latinos are very racist and never took a stand in the civil rights fight in the 60's. Where were the hispanics during the Civil Rights Movement? This is your chance to have a candidate for everyone. The Whites and Blacks alike will vote for Obama. Why cant the Latinos see that Hillary is not Bill Clinton and she that Hillary can not win. She is too far behind in the delegate count.

I am a Floridian who is a Democrat. If our votes don't count now, they may very well not count in the general election. To all of you Obama supporters who do not want our votes to count now because it may give you a short term advantage,EXPERIENCE has taught me that what you crave now may be your NIGHTMARE tommorrow.

They do not want another vote because they want the previous vote to count. You Obama supporters are too thick to see that. Open your ears to what Obama is saying, you will hear nothing at all. If he gets the nomination you better believe I am voting for the only person left qualified, McCain.

Hillary 08 and beyond

You can write off Florida in November if they don't let them attend the convention. Florida's white older population will vote for the GOP. Obama can't carry the swing states of Florida, Ohio, Tennessee and New Jersey. Another 4 years of a Republican if Obama is the candidate.

How come Florida is always a political problem spot in America? They always like to inject confusion in the political process - they need to get their act together - and fast!

Hillary won about 50% of the vote in FL and she should get that vote. Obama should take the votes that did not go to Hillary. That would be 50%.

I agree with DNC. They moved up their primary before time and shouldn't be rewarded for doing it. They shouldn't be counted at all.

So what happens when the Republicans win FL and MI because people were not happy about being left out?

Remember, a Republican legislature and a Republican governor made he changes.

they shouldn't get a revote. the florida democrats clearly went against the national democrats wishes and should be punished.

the only reason this is an issue is because the clintons are losing the election.

12 years of bush and 8 years of clinton is enough family time for our country. obama is CHANGE.

our country is not a monarchy as some families want it to be.

Now here is the Perfect Solution:

Let's play SURVIVOR where HRC and BHO go into the Okefenokee Swamp by themselves and they try to "outsmart, outpower, outfight, and outwit" and whoever comes out of the swamp wins ALL the Florida delegates.

Then on the other side it wouldn't be fair cause we all know that HRC will survive and come out on top just like she did last time!

Why can't Florida have a caucus? Saves the cost of paper ballots and counting errors which Florida is known for. The voters will simply cast their physical presence rather than a ballot. How expensive is that? Precinct captains are volunteers. I think that would be so effective!

The peopled voted. It is not a game, you sould respect the people vote or you all these voters may move to Rep.

Hillary won in Flor and Mich, lest's count

most of the obama supporters don't want florida re-vote because they know he would lose. This just shows how pathetic they are. I hope none of the florida and michigan vote for democrat in november.

sameer,

your comments have no merit. hillary is the one to divide the party with her finger pointing and fear mongering. she runs a campaign like the GOP.

THeir he goes again. Why can;t he just not do that. What is this Stalingrad?

I don't think Florida should have a re vote. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. They were told ahead of time and should have to deal with the consequences. I agree with Kim Lee about the lies and cheating.

Living in Florida has proven to be a nightmare! I cannot believe that our votes will not count! Florida keeps proving to the world that it is dumb!

Hispanics March 11th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I dont see why the DNC wants a re-vote in Florida when all the candidates names were on the ballot. In any case, most Latinos will vote for McCain in the General election.
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Do you speak for an entire group of poeple?

For anyone to suggest that any group is that monolithic is quite insulting.

What about John Edwards? Shouldn't his delegates be counted as well? If Florida had counted, he might have stayed in a little longer! John Edwards could be the nominee! We have to do the whole thing over again! (Sarcasm practically dripping from previous statements). It's sheer idiocy to say that Florida and Michigan should count. They broke the rules, now they have to live with the consequences. If you don't like it, don't reelect the guys and gals who broke the rules and flew in the face of the DNC- it's not hard to figure out.

that's because hillary already won. both names were on the ballot. only obama ran commercials there. hillary won and florida knows it.

After looking at the Mississippi primary and seeing that 91 percent of African Americans voted for Obama, this is definitely about race, no matter how much anyone denies it. We need to stop pretending that there is no racial divide in this country, but there is a very very subtle underlying discrimination between races, between gender in this country.

Hey Roger, AR and others…it was known months ago that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count. Why is it just now an outrage?

You know what if those idiots in Florida want to count the vote as was tallied in January, as well as Michigan even though Obama wasn't on the ballot, go for it… 'cause you know what? If you add those delegates to the totals OBAMA WILL STILL BE IN THE LEAD!!

Hillary's new slogan: "Math - makes me cry!"

You morons haven't held one election that wasn't a complete debacle in more than a decade.

What has Hillary done? She has all this talk about being ready on day one to lead. Where is her experience coming from? If her having slept with Bill is what she is talking about then Paula, Monica and I am sure the list can continue can claim they are ready on day one as well

Obama is so scared if Florida and Michigan get to vote again because he knows he will lose. Obama says he wants them to do a re-vote, but we all know that he really doesn't want them to vote again. Obama is a fake. If he really wanted them to vote again, then he should be like Hillary and do everything he can for a re-vote.

Sameer wrote March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

"Obama is the root cause of splitting the party, it would have not happened if anyone against Hillary but Obama."

You must be kidding !!

So, the people are punished for the actions of the GOP. On top of that, Obama supporters are happy that millions of voices will not be heard.

Hillary08

The vote should stand. People made a choice on their voting day… and it should be honored.

How come no one is pointing fingers at the REPUBLICAN lawmakers in Florida who scheduled the primary early? They figured out how to screw the democrats-again!!!

I believe in a 45/55 split in favor of Obama because Hillary cheated. She had no business accepting the victory in the state.

i already voted and that is enough. why do we voters have to suffer? please consider florida delegates as we have voted.

Well the Republicans stripped the states of half their delegates, why not do the same and seat them as is? even if seated as is, Hillary only gains about 45 delegates, she still looses the race! The only argument I've heard that makes sense against seating them any more is that Howard Dean will have no clout what-so-ever moving forward.

Those on this blog are easy to read. Those who want to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates are Obama supporters. Those who wanted them counted, and the original count, are Hillary supporters. Once again, the Democrats are divided, and this won't go away.

Seat the delegates as voted. Everyone was on the ballot and Barack was the only one who ran an ad there. He should have no complaint.

Hillary the HOPE of 08 or McCain!

Going 50/50 won't solve anything. Hillary won, period. Obama needs to just let them seat the delegates based on the results. Going 50/50 will be a slap across the Floridians faces.

Equal division of the delegates in Michigan and Florida.

Latinos Vote DEM, period. Who you trying to scare? They only voted for her because they know the Clinton last name, and the way it's going, that last name will not be very attractive for long. Latinos vote dem. A Tidalwave is coming this November, and his name is Barack.

The government should divert the entire 2009 defense budget … plus whatever else it takes … to building an enormous saw and severing Florida from the rest of our otherwise coherant union. Think about it. It's the only answer. One giant slice along the state's northern border and shove em' out to sea.

They should split them 50/50.
The rules were the rules, Why do you want to change them now.
A re-vote is to costly.

my message don't get displayed. But I will still keep writing.
There is no need for a re-vote in Florida because neither Obama nor Hillary campaigned there. Both candidates were on the ballot. People came out in drove to vote anyway. So let the vote stand.

The only place we should re-vote is Michigan, simply because Obama was not on the ballot.

So the PEOPLE of Florida should not have their voice heard because of a few group leaders in the democratic party and the Republican governor? Bullcrap. I want to see the DNC calling people in FL and MI a$king for money for their November campaign, saying 'we need to re-gain the Whitehouse'…..bla bla bla…I might as well then vote for McCain. How's that?

Have the people VOTE to see how they should VOTE!

This is getting ridiculous. Either pull a Republican move (count only half the delegates) or don't count them at all. They broke the rules; it's the principle of the thing.

I am a Florida voter and it is not our fault, blame it on the DNC. On the 29th of Jan we had a record turnout. My 84 year old mother in a wheelchair and I voted because we wanted to show our support for our candidate. We all had the same opportunity, the delegates should seated as such.

Speaking of votes - last time I checked your own predictions for TEXAS, including cacuses, shows Obama picked up 5 more delegates than HRC.

Why aren't you reporting this and WHY are Wolf Blitzer and Candy Crowley still talking about Hillary's "wins" in Ohio and Texas and Hillary's shift in momentum (Obama won the delegate match-up in TEXAS, and since, Wyoming and Mississippi)?

THIS IS BOGUS. How do your directors, fact-checkers and governing board justify this? Give us some IMPORTANT accurate news.

I am astounded at the level of complexity in the American democratic system. What happened to one person, one vote? This system of votes deciding on the percentage split of delegates, although sometimes not directly, and then delegates able to change their mind at the conference and therefore cancelling out any votes that were made to direct them which way to vote. And the superdelegates who have a "higher power" vote. And then to have a time limit rule that makes all votes in one place void is ridiculous.
Its almost undemocratic …

give Hillary the 55% she won
give Barack the other 45%
then give Barack 5 more super delegates for each state because he followed the rules

If u told your child not to break a rule in your house and then u see them about to do it, and u tell them if u do that I will ground u for a week. Then the child does it and u ground the child, do u then in two days say its ok your not grounded anymore. Come on people get real
this is whay rule are put in place.

Clinton supporter must oppose a revote in Florida because they know that the people of Florida have had enough time to see Obama and Clinton side-by-side and they will vote for Obama.

Hillary supporters UNITE…Obama migh