March 11, 2008
Posted: March 11th, 2008 09:30 PM ET

(CNN) – Florida's House Democratic delegation said in an issued statement Tuesday night they oppose a re-vote in Florida of any kind, including one done by mail.

"We are committed to working with the DNC, the Florida State Democratic party, our Democratic leaders in Florida, and our two candidates to reach an expedited solution that ensures our 210 delegates are seated," the delegation's statement read. "Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind."

Florida Sen. Bill Nelson is strongly advocating a re-vote done by mail.

Filed under: Florida


radi AZ   March 12th, 2008 2:50 am ET

Can some body explain to me what is the meaning of word DEMOCRACY?
I think one of the meanings is right to vote no matter what. Then, how come some people want strip people's voice.
You all should remember 2000 elections, without support from Florida you can't win general elections.

Kathy   March 12th, 2008 2:43 am ET

Am I the only one who finds it interesting that the REPUBLICAN governor of Florida is pushing so hard to have their votes counted for Hillary Clinton – the candidate the national polls show John McCain can beat? So here's a thought – why doesn't the DNC subtract the unpledged delegates from Florida and Michigan (apprx 366) from the total number of delegates (2025) needed for the democratic nomination and make that number the one to Obama or Clinton needs to reach. That way Florida won't need to worry about the cost of a re-vote, neither candidate will need to be concerned about any tampering, and the selection of the nomimee won't be dependent on superdelegates.

Richard   March 12th, 2008 2:43 am ET

Why is anyone blaming either side on this one, Hillary wants the votes to count as is because she's behind and Barrack doesn't want the votes to count because he is ahead. Being in market research the voting numbers are based off name recogniztion. Hillary would win a revote I believe but by a much closer margin. Anyway you look at it give the voters the opportunity to know each candidate and cast a vote. This was a serious miscalculation by the DNC who is the ROOT CAUSE of this entire problem. They should have penalized Florida but not discount the vote entirely.

Eric in Ca   March 12th, 2008 2:39 am ET

Reading these post is very unsettling and very divisive, we've all loss sight of the main objective... NO BUSH/MCCAIN in the White House!

Simply and less cost effect is to split delegates. Please bear in mind any re-vote is not a guaranty that Hillary wins by the same margin.
Would anyone really want another de facto election.

Ed   March 12th, 2008 2:31 am ET

Looks like someone's trying to steal the vote for Hillary. Imagine.

Anyway, the fact remains that people didn't vote because they didn't think it would count. If it suddenly counts, they were disenfranchised. 50/50 split or a revote, that's it.

Tom   March 12th, 2008 2:31 am ET

The Republicans are spending your social security people, it's going right down the toilet on this mess Bush got us in in IRAQ and McCain wants to continue!!!!

Black man for Hillary   March 12th, 2008 2:20 am ET

Smart Obama supporters. By blocking the results of Florida and Michigan, Obama may win the nomination, but he will 100% lose the general election.

No More Pillows   March 12th, 2008 2:18 am ET

What is so hard to understand. The Florida House Democratic delegation is saying they oppose a re-vote in Florida. This means they want the first one to count. Good for Hillary.

Obama supporters, please read more carefully. Can't you understand simple sentences? This explains a lot.

Black man for Hillary   March 12th, 2008 2:16 am ET

Inspiration can't buy me bread

Jeff   March 12th, 2008 2:15 am ET

To Jay in Kansas,

Count Commarade's Clintons Votes in Michigan? Sounds like the way they ran the political system in the Soviet Union.

Florida republicans were responsible for their mess – why do they not clean it up?

Michigan Democrats have no one to blame but themselves – they voted to move up the date.

On the other hand, why not split the vote – Clinton got 50% in Florida. You know what? Give her the 55% and give Barack the 45% – he played by the rules. What a great lesson to students these days for them to see our politicians get punished for following the rules.

In all, it won't matter, because Barack will still beat Hillary – I just hope that Hillary does not go nuclear and destroy the party in the process.

Christian Matthew Holes   March 12th, 2008 2:14 am ET

Thank you Florida, I am a proud Floridian again. They oppose a redo and justly so. They, as a democratic party, should appologize for putting Florida in the position in the first place. Take a 50/50 split and unify the party. Good day Hillary DROP OUT and UNIFY THE PARTY!!!

Marty   March 12th, 2008 2:14 am ET

luis wrote

March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

if Obama wins the nomination latinos will support McCain. without the latino vote Obama can't win the white house that"s a fact!!!!

Well luis, if Clinton STEALS the nomination (which is just about the only way she can get it now), what do you think African American voters will do in November – stay home I reckon! This is where it is because of the Clinton's sense of entitlement. How dare anyone nominate against her. It's hers and if she has to destroy Obama's chances of beating McCain to get it, then that's a price worth paying! She knows no shame.

randall   March 12th, 2008 2:14 am ET

obama is afraid of florida and mi....its a shame, he is supposed to be the canidate for you all and yet he has no problem letting the votes of a couple of million people not be heard...now thats a presidential candidate for you lol....I bet for the 2nd time in Michelle Obama's adult life she is proud to be an American...God Bless America.....I know Al Queda is praying to Ali for a Barack Obama Victory.....this is degrading to patriotism

Democrat for McCain   March 12th, 2008 2:13 am ET

To all Obama supporters: Are you going to vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket? I am curious to know.

Nanthu   March 12th, 2008 2:12 am ET

Florida legislators are the reason for this debacle. DNC took the right decision but VOTING is a fundamental right in a democracy.

Americans must change this SYSTEM to accomodate all the citizens in the selection process.

Obama is leading and Clinton's poli-tricking is not working much. Any way Americans are intelligent people.

Nanthu, Canada

Delaware   March 12th, 2008 2:09 am ET

If Florida oppose e revote of any kind a 50/50 vote to each candidate sound fair in Florida as well as Michigan. I know that Florida has 210 delegate; each candidate should get 105 of the delegate if they oppose any revote. Florida knew the rule they chose to broke them.

JT   March 12th, 2008 1:59 am ET

Florida voted already, Hillary won!!

If they vote again, Hillary will win again!!

A lot of people know now that Obama is a great speaker but nothing much to support what he is preaching about. Take a look at his record as a state senator, take a look at his record in Washington. Almost no major accomplishment.

No record of any bold change that he accomplished. As a state senator, there were no evidence that he challenged the stablishment .

Hillary is a better choice for the democrats!!

Winning red state in the primary is meaningles for democrats in the general election!!

Ryan   March 12th, 2008 1:55 am ET

I would like to put forward that the educated and informed stayed home because they knew their votes didn't count. Hence the Hillary landslide...

OBAMA '08

John   March 12th, 2008 1:54 am ET

No one will believe in Obama, he does not want to count FL and MI.

Dennis   March 12th, 2008 1:52 am ET

Tens of thousands of people didn't bother voting because they knew it was a beauty contest with no importance. You can't seat the delegation results in an artificial election.

This is the only state that had a higher republican turnout during the primaries, that alone tells you most of the dems stayed home.

Jeff   March 12th, 2008 1:51 am ET

Since Clinton has already shown she has no loyalty to the Democratic Party, perhaps the Florida votes should be split 50/50....between Obama and McCain.

pgg   March 12th, 2008 1:50 am ET

50/50 split of florida and michigan delegates is the only way ,and would be fair for each candidate. Then the delegates can be seated at the national convention.The rules where made by the DNC and the florida and michigan Legislators new the rules for the actions they took.You cant change the rules of the game in the third quarter because one party is behind in the game. Mail in ballots wont work because of voter fraud and lack of security.

Democrat from Florida   March 12th, 2008 1:47 am ET

Florida Democratic Party spokesman Mark Bubriski said Tuesday night that the plan is a draft, and doesn't represent a final decision by the party on whether to pursue a mail-in revote.

He characterized the plan as "hypothetical" and said the state party executive committee, the party's main decision-making body, would have to vote on a final decision to propose it to the national party.

A Florida   March 12th, 2008 1:46 am ET

For the record Obama did advertise in Florida and Hillary did not !! Oh my ,St Obama broke the rules!!!!

Okon Effiong, Kyoto, Japan   March 12th, 2008 1:43 am ET

What lesson are you democrats teaching the rest of the world? Why blame criminals, illegals and other law-breakers? Those who broke the DNC rules have their hidden agenda which are clearly not in the interest of the party. Mugabe will be smiling if "rules are no longer rules" in God's own country. The world is watching.

rl   March 12th, 2008 1:43 am ET

count the existing ballots. just as absentee ballots are submitted before a vote, just consider these ballots the same way – submitted prior to the primary election day. count them and let democracy win over rigid rules . forget who is to blame and stop and trying to punish the florida democrats. i really think Howard Dean is on a power trip.

George from Minneapolis   March 12th, 2008 1:43 am ET

If they dont want to have a revote that is just fine. The original voting wont count.

Tom, Iowa   March 12th, 2008 1:42 am ET

They should go King Solomon on this one.

Let one campaign divide the delegates into two groups. Let the other campaign pick which group they want.

(It should be noted that the primary being bumped up was done by the Republican state legislature.)

ladyliberty724   March 12th, 2008 1:42 am ET

Then there delegates should be seated and counted for Hillary Clinton. Obama was on the ballot, it was a level playing field, neither campaigned in the state.

I repeat SEAT THE FLORIDA DELEGATES THAT HILLARY CLINTON WON.

Thank you very much.

Adam   March 12th, 2008 1:41 am ET

They will revote. The Obama camp is pushing hard with the house delegation to not revote. Barack would lose by a landslide in Florida. Regardless, the superdelegates will have to push one way or another at the convention in Denver. Based on strategy, it is clear that Hillary can carry the critical states at a much larger margin than Barack. Sorry Obama lovers, but the black vote won't win the critical swing states. His struggles winning latinos, women, and white blue-collar workers (also known as the majority of the democratic party) has increased ever since his run of the small RED states wins.

Dave   March 12th, 2008 1:40 am ET

Wow. Really disturbing all the Obama supporters on here who are delighted that the people in Florida and Michigan won't be heard in the primaries. Strange. I wonder if that's what things will be like with Obama as president – not that different from life under Bush, so I guess we're all ready....

augustcandi   March 12th, 2008 1:40 am ET

Obama 2008 & 2012

Tom   March 12th, 2008 1:36 am ET

Hillary won those two states 70 to 30 and that's how they should be seated. It should be tied going into PA now............ where she will kick royal butt!!!

Bob, CA   March 12th, 2008 1:35 am ET

Anybody who thinks the original Florida votes should count is willfully disenfranchising all the people who stayed home because they were told that their vote would not count. You can't tell people the vote doesn't count, then decide to count it. How would you feel if you were tricked into not voting in the last election then told later that the vote will count, but you can't vote?

There is NO WAY that Clinton would be fighting to seat these delegates if Obama had won.

kirt   March 12th, 2008 1:30 am ET

To DNC Florida, if Floridans will be disenfrachise with their votes, These voters will go for McCain.

Shine   March 12th, 2008 1:29 am ET

Go Obama. Dont have supporters like Splitzer , They be involve with bad things.We Love. Change America for real.Another John.F.Kennedy of our time.

A&A   March 12th, 2008 1:28 am ET

why 50/50 when all the names were on the ballot...whoever didn't vote does not deserve the second chance

D.D.   March 12th, 2008 1:28 am ET

I think Senator Nelson is following the lights and the media.
Did he scream this loudly before Governor Crist signed this into being in their state.

Yale   March 12th, 2008 1:27 am ET

A lot of comments about losing states over this and which candidate is to blame. Who's kidding who?? Either candidate will win against McCain. Why aren't we talking about $4 gas, houses in foreclosure, tanking stock market, out sourcing jobs, horrible economy, etc..etc..

Ricky   March 12th, 2008 1:27 am ET

The white voters were in compelling situation to vote for Hillary because it's too frustrating for them to see that their race are being overpowered by the other race. They are awaken to give their full support to Hillary so that the idea of change by Obama which the race is one of it's goal for change in the white house will be stopped. This is the first time in American history that voters are divided, this means that Obama is not a uniter but a divider.

A&A   March 12th, 2008 1:26 am ET

no revote...actual vote should stand...did BO really put an add there? and lost anyhow...sleazy man

lt   March 12th, 2008 1:25 am ET

Florida..you broke the rules, you pay for it. However, with all the excitement in other states, I do feel sorry for those who did obey the rules and chose to stay home. Their voices should be heard.

Peter   March 12th, 2008 1:23 am ET

i just got one question to those voters in Florida and Michigan, dont y'll understand the meaning of "RULES"? you brake them you pay the price. hopefully u can teach your kids some values.

merci   March 12th, 2008 1:22 am ET

Thank You John0! Well said.

Jason   March 12th, 2008 1:19 am ET

I hope they do have a redo of some sort. If they don't and clinton loses the nomination, or should i say when she loses the nomination, that will be her scapegoat for why she lost. It won't be losing in pledged delegates, nor popular vote, or even superdelegates, it will be those two states who when put together wouldn't put her in the lead of pledged delegates or popular vote.

Do us a favor and help unite the party. You are just putting off the inevitable. Obama '08.

JKC   March 12th, 2008 1:18 am ET

Anything other than a re-vote or a 50/50 split would be blatantly unfair and tear the party apart, so it's just not going to happen. Face some simple facts: They were not supposed to be seated and there was no real campaigning in the state. BIllary won on name recognition. So enough with the Clinton game playing.

cj, New Jersey   March 12th, 2008 1:16 am ET

You dumb democrats! The republican party is sitting back laughing at you idiots! They are behind the scenes pushing guys like Governor Crist to do their dirty work. The republicans can't figure Senator Obama out so they would rather not face him. They would love to face Senator Clinton because they know that Senator MCcain would defeat her in the general election. The republicans can care less about the voters in Florida and Michigan having their voices heard, all they want is Hillary and they will stop at nothing to get her.

JKC   March 12th, 2008 1:16 am ET

Anything other than a re-vote or a 50/50 split would be blatantly unfair and tear the party apart, so it's just not going to happen. Face some simple facts: They were not supposed to be seated and there was no real campaigning in the state. Clinton won on name recognition. So enough with the Clinton game playing.

FAIRY FL   March 12th, 2008 1:14 am ET

Count Florida for respecting the voters’ rights, it’s a real vote no matter how many voters were there. At the same time, Democrat leaders in Florida should step down for the responsibilities of rule violation. Punish these who made the mistake not the voters!!

TRUTH   March 12th, 2008 1:12 am ET

Who is Barak Obama uniting?
He is the most divisive candidate todate. What started as the "unitor" (sounds familiar?) has turned out to be so far, not acceptable to blue collar working people, women professional or not and of all ages, Latinos, Asians, Jews. All but blacks, who are voting color almost 100%, see that Hillary is the best candidate. You ask me who is the racist group?. Ferraro, my friends is right!!!!

James in Texas   March 12th, 2008 1:12 am ET

To funny that the Florida voters will now run over to the Republican side simply because their candidate didn't picked. Isn't this the same stupidity that got them in this mess. I say go right ahead and give the election to John "No New Taxes" McCain. I need to keep as much money in my pocket as possible and it seems that the Democratic Party will deliver my candidate. Keep those delegates split right down the middle.

Texas   March 12th, 2008 1:10 am ET

Andrew posted that Florida primary was not fair because Obama followed the rules and was not on the ballot. This is just typical of an Obama supporter to just follow the hype and not know the facts. All the candidates were on the ballot in Florida. I'll bet Andrew thinks his candidate voted against going to war in Iraq, too!

Christian, Tampa FL   March 12th, 2008 1:09 am ET

On behalf of all Floridians, I want to apologize for these fools... Let's have a re-vote and let's have actual campaigning.

David   March 12th, 2008 1:07 am ET

Is Hillary Clinton aware of this? I am wondering what kind of strategy she will starts developing next. Also, the DNC should know that Hillary will not only be messing up Obama, but also the the party as a whole. In state here is the Democratic Party and early the better for people like Dean to save this party for party.

I smell a rat in the Democratic Party.

Sliv   March 12th, 2008 1:07 am ET

Please consider the previous comment with the corrected email address.

Kerwin Falls   March 12th, 2008 1:07 am ET

Whatever happened to the rules are rules? If everyone signed off on the rules including BOTH candidates, why are we seeking to change them in the middle of the game? Some of the things that have gone on in this campaign will leave this party fractured, and ultimately lead to Republican defections. A sad state of affairs particulary when so many new voters are taking part in this process for the first time, and becoming engaged in this countr's political process....

Michael   March 12th, 2008 1:05 am ET

People have misunderstood. Florida is not on Obama's side. They want the delegates seated AS IS, which favours Clinton!

Jeff   March 12th, 2008 1:04 am ET

Also, I see someone mentioned that Obama left his name off the ballot in Florida. NOT TRUE! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!! THAT was MICHIGAN!!! Do you LISTEN to the NEWS?!?!?! Being a Florida voter, I can say that ALL the names appeared on the ballots!! I saw it with my own eyes!!

Shirley   March 12th, 2008 1:04 am ET

There would surely be a difference in the Floridians vote. When they had their primary, John Edwards was on the ballot and those voters would now vote differently. A Floridian.

Neil   March 12th, 2008 1:04 am ET

Alright, since you don't want make things fair, then Florida as agreed to before, your votes have been taken away from the convention. Sorry. You knew the rules and you broke them anyways. And if you're mad, blame your Republican governor Charlie Crist NOT the Democratic candidates or the DNC.

mary cleveland, ohio   March 12th, 2008 1:03 am ET

What do you want to bet that Hillary and Bill will manage somehow to manipulate the game to get re-votes in Fla. and Mi.?

Hillary needs those votes. If they re-vote it will be a shame to the Democratic Party. It will shame all Democrats.

Bill   March 12th, 2008 1:01 am ET

The solution: Send 105 delegates for Hillary and 105 delegates for Obama to the Democratic National Convention.

Do the same thing in Michigan. And then move on...

But that would be too pragmatic and efficient for the Democratic Party, right?

Jean   March 12th, 2008 1:00 am ET

What happened to fair play by the rules and let the process determine the winner. The rules were made and signed by both canidates. Where is Hillary's sense of decency. Who knows she could have won by the rues, and the party would be in tact.

Suzanne   March 12th, 2008 12:58 am ET

50/50 split.

Funny how this wasn't a problem until Hillary started whining. She had no plan beyond February 4th, so this was one of her dirty tricks out of desperation.

David   March 12th, 2008 12:57 am ET

Florida and Michigan will get to vote in November. The rules are the rules and everyone agreed to them. If voters in those states are unhappy they should throw the state party idiots under the bus for allowing the state to break the rules and move their elections and therefore invalidate them.

Billy   March 12th, 2008 12:54 am ET

OMG! Poor Hillary is crying again!

Jose Card - Independent   March 12th, 2008 12:54 am ET

No re-vote is meant to protect the Dem party.
It's better to get FL and MI mad, but not the whole country mad at DNC.
I trust there will be problems if there is a re-vote.

WG in CA   March 12th, 2008 12:53 am ET

It's 3am, Billary. Where is your husband? Maybe he's with Geraldine..

WG in CA   March 12th, 2008 12:52 am ET

It's 3am, Hillary. Where is your husband?

Billy   March 12th, 2008 12:51 am ET

If they dont vote,its offical,obama wins for sure

maggie   March 12th, 2008 12:50 am ET

The campaigning wasn't fair in Florida. Obama ran TV ads. Nobody else campaigned at all. Every name was on the ballot. So, with his TV ads, which he claimed got on the air by mistake, he actually broke the rules...so the delegates should be seated according to the votes already taken...and I think that's the way it will end up. Hide and watch!

John   March 12th, 2008 12:49 am ET

Floridas mostly Cuban isn't it? Why do we care how they voted. LOL.

Sheri   March 12th, 2008 12:49 am ET

Nice that Hillary is using the word "retard" in one of her speeches. I don't care if the word was not used to describe a person. Another word would have been appropriate such as impede, or perhaps she was calling Obama slow.

Tiff   March 12th, 2008 12:48 am ET

Hillary wasn't concerned about the people of Florida's votes being counted until it would benefit her. She's ignorant and she is using her supporters. If she really cared about democracy, she would've pushed for it in January, not months later when she's behind and desperate.

Jayson   March 12th, 2008 12:46 am ET

All the people who say that Florida knew the rules and broke them are a bunch of idiots. Florida is run by Republicans not the Democratic party so please explain the insanity that says the Democratic party in Florida should be punished for a Republican change in the primary date.

Oh well the fact that the Democratic party thinks that a stupid move along these lines will win them Florida and the Presidency in 2008 just shows how out of touch their leadership is with the American people.

John Adkisson   March 12th, 2008 12:45 am ET

I don't get it. Was this a combined statement from Obama and Clinton supporters? What's in the water down there? I don't care if the re-do it or not so long as they don't use the bogus results to tilt the nomination. But this sounds goofy.

frank   March 12th, 2008 12:43 am ET

Obama can not win the general election. However, most democrats can not see through it. Especially, African-America just love him because of that he is one of them. The young voters just choose someone who looks comfortable (younger). It is a pity that no so many people care about the next four years, the future of the country.

Charles L. Morse Sr.   March 12th, 2008 12:43 am ET

I have a question for voters on the republican and democrat voters that just voted . What change do you think these people will give us . Where is a lot of kinds of change . The questions we should be asking is how they will make the changes they offer us in detail . We should also make these people talk about the issues they avoid and never tell us what they will change and how . Remember voting is like signing your name on a dotted line . We will be stuck with what we get 4-8 years . Signing and voting is not always a good change if you don't read and listen to the small print or words in the message you chose to believe . Thanks , Think about it hard .

frank   March 12th, 2008 12:41 am ET

Obama can not win the general election. However, most democrats can not see through it. Especially, African-America just love him because of that he is one of them. The young voters just choose someone who looks comfortable (younger). It is a pity that no so many people care about the next four years, the future of the country.

unfair   March 12th, 2008 12:41 am ET

I dont understand how clinton can rack up 100,000 more votes than obama in texas and walk away with 4 more delegates, but obama can get a mere 5k in votes in the caucus and walk away with 9 more delegates than clinton (at 41% reporting).

this outcome is absurd and undemocratic. obama should feel so good to be wining the way bush won against gore.

and the general election is not a caucus! so what does obama say to that

Carl from Pa   March 12th, 2008 12:40 am ET

This is absurd! Many people didn't vote since they knew it wasn't going to count. How in the world can this be fair to anyone involved, most importantly the voters of Floriday. This is one reason people have been so turned off to politics in the past. The fact that this is Floriday, just twists the knife. I suppose they didn't learn their lesson and have to find a way to mess up every important election.

Stop the madness!

borg   March 12th, 2008 12:38 am ET

Dems are shooting at their feet with both barrels, they will manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and we'll have Bush-3

eRIC   March 12th, 2008 12:37 am ET

Florida has voted with all candidates on the ballots, why it cannot be counted as is?

Re-do is unconstitutional.

RFB   March 12th, 2008 12:35 am ET

Everyone is saying that FL should be a re-do bacause a lot of people didn't vote because they thought it would not count, so they say this is not fair to Obama. Well don't you think just as many Clinton voters stayed home as did the Obama voters for that reason? So with that in mind it seems that if everyone that wanted to vote had voted the ratio would have ended up the same. With Hillary winning. With that in mind, the vote should stand. I agree that MI should have a re-vote, but it should be a primary, not a caucus where only certain people can participate.

wow   March 12th, 2008 12:35 am ET

all i have to say is wow to the comments left here by obama supporters.

1. 50/50 is the dumbest thing ive heard. thats no different than disenfranchising the voters.

2. obama WAS on the ballot in florida, the4 it was FAIR and the votes should stick.

3. not having a redo goes against obama's whole campaign about doing what the voters want – how can he claim to be a democrat but tell 5 million voters that their vots dont count.

if obama is so certain he is the best then why does he care if there is a revote – maybe he is scared

Thomas Baker   March 12th, 2008 12:33 am ET

Does anyone happen to think this has anything to do with the fact that Hillary carried Florida and wants their delegates for the desperation win and has absolutely nothing to do with the voters? I would imagine she could care less if Obama carried Florida/Michigan and would stalwartly defend the rules instituted by the party.

Obama supporter / Billary protestor   March 12th, 2008 12:28 am ET

Florida can't even make the correct decision on this one.

So sorry Billary your ploy to steal the election again is being foiled.

All these people now crying over this issue now that Billary can't win need to cool it, their non-sense is getting old.

If it is truly about the voters and seating the delagates the fair thing would be spliting them 50/50 and calling it a draw. I'm sure all the bingo parties for Billary wouldn't want that though.

Almost there Barack bring us home!

Bruce   March 12th, 2008 12:27 am ET

Split them in half

RFB   March 12th, 2008 12:26 am ET

To catmon, I totally agree with you. A 50-50 split would just be another case of the Obama party cheating on getting ahead. They were the ones that had ads running in FL, and I don't believe that they couldn't stop them. It was just their way of cheating once again. When will people realize how corrupt this man really is, it will be too late after they put him in the White House.

Will   March 12th, 2008 12:26 am ET

I heard of some places in Florida where Obama wasn't on the ballot and people had to write him in if they wanted to vote for him.

Anonymous   March 12th, 2008 12:26 am ET

Those voters are Democratic Florida Primary participants, who should abide by the Democratic Party rules. This is not a general election! They can vote in November.

Not an Idiot   March 12th, 2008 12:26 am ET

OK folks, its this simple:

PEOPLE STAYED HOME AND DID NOT VOTE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THEIR VOTE WOULD NOT COUNT.

There should be a re-vote or no vote count at all, otherwise the PEOPLE in MI and FL not Obama, not Clinton it is the PEOPLE who will lose.

To count the votes as they stand is simply unfair to the voters/non-voters who were told their vote would mean nothing - so they stayed home and did not vote.

Think about it this way. A re-vote may help or hurt either candidate. If a re-vote is done then the popular vote wins, so do the people, so does the party, so does the country and so does fairness.

Amparo   March 12th, 2008 12:25 am ET

count us in. We deserve to be counted. We voted, count us in.

LB, Virginia   March 12th, 2008 12:24 am ET

Don't believe when they tell you the Republicans did it! THe democrats introduced the bill and voted unanimously for it, don't give me crap about amendments, etc.

Florida should suffer for what the did– you played chicken and you lost! If you're mad you can vote out your elected officials at the state level.

dilmont   March 12th, 2008 12:23 am ET

In other words, "We look forward to working with everyone except we won't."

Kurt   March 12th, 2008 12:20 am ET

I am a die hard Clinton supporter. There is no way I will ever vote for Obama. I will probably not vote. If the democratic party wants to elect Obama. GO AHEAD! I can not wait to see McCain eat his lunch.

Hispanic Woman For OBAMA   March 12th, 2008 12:20 am ET

Solution to Florida & Michigan: split the delegates 50/50 and everyone goes home happy. If you haven’t been paying attention, Hillary has already split the Democratic Party. Giver her half of the delegates before she destroys the democrats chance at wining in the general election.

RFB   March 12th, 2008 12:19 am ET

I would like someone to tell me the difference between what Farraro said "If Obama weren't black he wouldn't be where he is" and what is constantly being said on CNN regarding the states that are projected to be Obama's because of the large black population in selected states. They both say that Obama is winning because he is black and getting the black vote. SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE!!!

david   March 12th, 2008 12:17 am ET

OMG I just saw mc cain beat hukkabe 110,826 to 17,506 votes that must be mostly white voters ...... wow

Lori   March 12th, 2008 12:16 am ET

Again the political machine speaks for the American voters.

The electoral college needs to be abolished. What makes me even more angry is the fact that Florida and Michigan STATE LEADERS decided to have their elections out of schedule - thereby guaranteeing these votes would not count.

What does that tell you??? Somebody in the STATE LEADERSHIP for Florida and Michigan has a favorite candidate ... gee.. wonder who that would be???

LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE AND QUIT PLAYING WITH THE OUTCOME OF THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!!

REDO REDO REDO!!!

Paul   March 12th, 2008 12:16 am ET

Florida didn't follow the rules and shouldn't get their delegates sat. Same for Michigan. The rules were agreed to a year and a half ago. Why should Florida and Michigan get to be above the rules?

SAM RAHNDALL   March 12th, 2008 12:15 am ET

all u disillusioned billary supporters. i wonder what monica lewinsky will say of gov. spitzer!!!!!!!

Riskco Cartel   March 12th, 2008 12:14 am ET

If Flordia and MI wanted their voices to count they should have said something a year and half ago, no excuses. If Obama wins the nomination latinos say they will vote for the other side, like this would be a suprise. If Clinton wins where will the black vote go, no where because they will not vote for her because they know she cheated and want be apart of it at all, so McCain wins without a doubt. NO Black vote, No Win forget what you heard, that's for all parties involved.

KP   March 12th, 2008 12:14 am ET

As a resident of Florida and as an American who voted in the primary. The only people to blame for this mess are Florida's state politicians who voted for moving up the primary even though they knew the DNC threats! Now, I dunno about Michigan but I'm sure their politicians should be blamed also.

Texas   March 12th, 2008 12:13 am ET

Well if they don't revote or seat the first vote then it will be up the the DNC to vote for the nominee cause it's a deadlock and when they vote for Clinton. Then Clinton supports can say those are the rules! Clinton is trying to give the american people their choice for president not the DNC.

mikenmississippi   March 12th, 2008 12:12 am ET

Hillary supporters UNITE...Obama might have won a battle...but the war is not over!!!!!!!!!!! Hillary 2008

Rex, Houghton, MI   March 12th, 2008 12:08 am ET

Clinton supporter must oppose a revote in Florida because they know that the people of Florida have had enough time to see Obama and Clinton side-by-side and they will vote for Obama.

BLINDMAN   March 12th, 2008 12:08 am ET

If u told your child not to break a rule in your house and then u see them about to do it, and u tell them if u do that I will ground u for a week. Then the child does it and u ground the child, do u then in two days say its ok your not grounded anymore. Come on people get real
this is whay rule are put in place.

jim schrepfer   March 12th, 2008 12:08 am ET

give Hillary the 55% she won
give Barack the other 45%
then give Barack 5 more super delegates for each state because he followed the rules

Andrew, Wellington, NZ   March 12th, 2008 12:06 am ET

I am astounded at the level of complexity in the American democratic system. What happened to one person, one vote? This system of votes deciding on the percentage split of delegates, although sometimes not directly, and then delegates able to change their mind at the conference and therefore cancelling out any votes that were made to direct them which way to vote. And the superdelegates who have a "higher power" vote. And then to have a time limit rule that makes all votes in one place void is ridiculous.
Its almost undemocratic ...

New York expat in Santo Domingo   March 12th, 2008 12:06 am ET

Speaking of votes – last time I checked your own predictions for TEXAS, including cacuses, shows Obama picked up 5 more delegates than HRC.

Why aren't you reporting this and WHY are Wolf Blitzer and Candy Crowley still talking about Hillary's "wins" in Ohio and Texas and Hillary's shift in momentum (Obama won the delegate match-up in TEXAS, and since, Wyoming and Mississippi)?

THIS IS BOGUS. How do your directors, fact-checkers and governing board justify this? Give us some IMPORTANT accurate news.

Chris in FL   March 11th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

I am a Florida voter and it is not our fault, blame it on the DNC. On the 29th of Jan we had a record turnout. My 84 year old mother in a wheelchair and I voted because we wanted to show our support for our candidate. We all had the same opportunity, the delegates should seated as such.

Nick   March 11th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

Have the people VOTE to see how they should VOTE!

This is getting ridiculous. Either pull a Republican move (count only half the delegates) or don't count them at all. They broke the rules; it's the principle of the thing.

Davo   March 11th, 2008 11:10 pm ET

So the PEOPLE of Florida should not have their voice heard because of a few group leaders in the democratic party and the Republican governor? Bullcrap. I want to see the DNC calling people in FL and MI a$king for money for their November campaign, saying 'we need to re-gain the Whitehouse'.....bla bla bla...I might as well then vote for McCain. How's that?

Love Hill   March 11th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

my message don't get displayed. But I will still keep writing.
There is no need for a re-vote in Florida because neither Obama nor Hillary campaigned there. Both candidates were on the ballot. People came out in drove to vote anyway. So let the vote stand.

The only place we should re-vote is Michigan, simply because Obama was not on the ballot.

R Lowe   March 11th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

They should split them 50/50.
The rules were the rules, Why do you want to change them now.
A re-vote is to costly.

Deport Florida   March 11th, 2008 11:08 pm ET

The government should divert the entire 2009 defense budget ... plus whatever else it takes ... to building an enormous saw and severing Florida from the rest of our otherwise coherant union. Think about it. It's the only answer. One giant slice along the state's northern border and shove em' out to sea.

AJ, Ca   March 11th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Latinos Vote DEM, period. Who you trying to scare? They only voted for her because they know the Clinton last name, and the way it's going, that last name will not be very attractive for long. Latinos vote dem. A Tidalwave is coming this November, and his name is Barack.

Azar   March 11th, 2008 11:07 pm ET

Equal division of the delegates in Michigan and Florida.

Former Obama supporter   March 11th, 2008 11:06 pm ET

Going 50/50 won't solve anything. Hillary won, period. Obama needs to just let them seat the delegates based on the results. Going 50/50 will be a slap across the Floridians faces.

aware   March 11th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

Seat the delegates as voted. Everyone was on the ballot and Barack was the only one who ran an ad there. He should have no complaint.

Hillary the HOPE of 08 or McCain! :)

RSP   March 11th, 2008 11:05 pm ET

Those on this blog are easy to read. Those who want to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates are Obama supporters. Those who wanted them counted, and the original count, are Hillary supporters. Once again, the Democrats are divided, and this won't go away.

Michael Dunn   March 11th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

Well the Republicans stripped the states of half their delegates, why not do the same and seat them as is? even if seated as is, Hillary only gains about 45 delegates, she still looses the race! The only argument I've heard that makes sense against seating them any more is that Howard Dean will have no clout what-so-ever moving forward.

betty mina   March 11th, 2008 11:04 pm ET

i already voted and that is enough. why do we voters have to suffer? please consider florida delegates as we have voted.

Eric   March 11th, 2008 11:03 pm ET

I believe in a 45/55 split in favor of Obama because Hillary cheated. She had no business accepting the victory in the state.

Jan   March 11th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

How come no one is pointing fingers at the REPUBLICAN lawmakers in Florida who scheduled the primary early? They figured out how to screw the democrats-again!!!

J E Hughel   March 11th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

The vote should stand. People made a choice on their voting day... and it should be honored.

Trev   March 11th, 2008 11:02 pm ET

So, the people are punished for the actions of the GOP. On top of that, Obama supporters are happy that millions of voices will not be heard.

Hillary08

PCS / North Carolina   March 11th, 2008 11:01 pm ET

Sameer wrote March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

"Obama is the root cause of splitting the party, it would have not happened if anyone against Hillary but Obama."

You must be kidding !!

James   March 11th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

Obama is so scared if Florida and Michigan get to vote again because he knows he will lose. Obama says he wants them to do a re-vote, but we all know that he really doesn't want them to vote again. Obama is a fake. If he really wanted them to vote again, then he should be like Hillary and do everything he can for a re-vote.

iammsmaam   March 11th, 2008 10:59 pm ET

What has Hillary done? She has all this talk about being ready on day one to lead. Where is her experience coming from? If her having slept with Bill is what she is talking about then Paula, Monica and I am sure the list can continue can claim they are ready on day one as well

FLORIDA SUCKS   March 11th, 2008 10:58 pm ET

You morons haven't held one election that wasn't a complete debacle in more than a decade.

Obama '08   March 11th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

You know what if those idiots in Florida want to count the vote as was tallied in January, as well as Michigan even though Obama wasn't on the ballot, go for it... 'cause you know what? If you add those delegates to the totals OBAMA WILL STILL BE IN THE LEAD!!

Hillary's new slogan: "Math – makes me cry!"

Jay   March 11th, 2008 10:57 pm ET

Hey Roger, AR and others...it was known months ago that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count. Why is it just now an outrage?

Naina   March 11th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

After looking at the Mississippi primary and seeing that 91 percent of African Americans voted for Obama, this is definitely about race, no matter how much anyone denies it. We need to stop pretending that there is no racial divide in this country, but there is a very very subtle underlying discrimination between races, between gender in this country.

independent   March 11th, 2008 10:56 pm ET

that's because hillary already won. both names were on the ballot. only obama ran commercials there. hillary won and florida knows it.

Johnny4President!   March 11th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

What about John Edwards? Shouldn't his delegates be counted as well? If Florida had counted, he might have stayed in a little longer! John Edwards could be the nominee! We have to do the whole thing over again! (Sarcasm practically dripping from previous statements). It's sheer idiocy to say that Florida and Michigan should count. They broke the rules, now they have to live with the consequences. If you don't like it, don't reelect the guys and gals who broke the rules and flew in the face of the DNC- it's not hard to figure out.

D G   March 11th, 2008 10:55 pm ET

Hispanics March 11th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I dont see why the DNC wants a re-vote in Florida when all the candidates names were on the ballot. In any case, most Latinos will vote for McCain in the General election.
______________________________________________________

Do you speak for an entire group of poeple?

For anyone to suggest that any group is that monolithic is quite insulting.

JV   March 11th, 2008 10:54 pm ET

Living in Florida has proven to be a nightmare! I cannot believe that our votes will not count! Florida keeps proving to the world that it is dumb!

fran from canada   March 11th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

I don't think Florida should have a re vote. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. They were told ahead of time and should have to deal with the consequences. I agree with Kim Lee about the lies and cheating.

Hillery 08   March 11th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

THeir he goes again. Why can;t he just not do that. What is this Stalingrad?

jeremy   March 11th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

sameer,

your comments have no merit. hillary is the one to divide the party with her finger pointing and fear mongering. she runs a campaign like the GOP.

Tina ny, ny   March 11th, 2008 10:53 pm ET

most of the obama supporters don't want florida re-vote because they know he would lose. This just shows how pathetic they are. I hope none of the florida and michigan vote for democrat in november.

park more, New Orleans   March 11th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

The peopled voted. It is not a game, you sould respect the people vote or you all these voters may move to Rep.

Hillary won in Flor and Mich, lest's count

barb   March 11th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Why can't Florida have a caucus? Saves the cost of paper ballots and counting errors which Florida is known for. The voters will simply cast their physical presence rather than a ballot. How expensive is that? Precinct captains are volunteers. I think that would be so effective!

Bob G.   March 11th, 2008 10:51 pm ET

Now here is the Perfect Solution:

Let's play SURVIVOR where HRC and BHO go into the Okefenokee Swamp by themselves and they try to "outsmart, outpower, outfight, and outwit" and whoever comes out of the swamp wins ALL the Florida delegates.

Then on the other side it wouldn't be fair cause we all know that HRC will survive and come out on top just like she did last time!

jeremy   March 11th, 2008 10:50 pm ET

they shouldn't get a revote. the florida democrats clearly went against the national democrats wishes and should be punished.

the only reason this is an issue is because the clintons are losing the election.

12 years of bush and 8 years of clinton is enough family time for our country. obama is CHANGE.

our country is not a monarchy as some families want it to be.

Chuck   March 11th, 2008 10:49 pm ET

So what happens when the Republicans win FL and MI because people were not happy about being left out?

Remember, a Republican legislature and a Republican governor made he changes.

Audrey   March 11th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

I agree with DNC. They moved up their primary before time and shouldn't be rewarded for doing it. They shouldn't be counted at all.

Dan Hussein Smith, TX   March 11th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

Hillary won about 50% of the vote in FL and she should get that vote. Obama should take the votes that did not go to Hillary. That would be 50%.

Ray Ito   March 11th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

How come Florida is always a political problem spot in America? They always like to inject confusion in the political process – they need to get their act together – and fast!

Texas Voter   March 11th, 2008 10:48 pm ET

You can write off Florida in November if they don't let them attend the convention. Florida's white older population will vote for the GOP. Obama can't carry the swing states of Florida, Ohio, Tennessee and New Jersey. Another 4 years of a Republican if Obama is the candidate.

Luke   March 11th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

They do not want another vote because they want the previous vote to count. You Obama supporters are too thick to see that. Open your ears to what Obama is saying, you will hear nothing at all. If he gets the nomination you better believe I am voting for the only person left qualified, McCain.

Hillary 08 and beyond

rudy   March 11th, 2008 10:47 pm ET

I am a Floridian who is a Democrat. If our votes don't count now, they may very well not count in the general election. To all of you Obama supporters who do not want our votes to count now because it may give you a short term advantage,EXPERIENCE has taught me that what you crave now may be your NIGHTMARE tommorrow.

anti-Latino   March 11th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

Latinos have no reason to be aganist Obama. Latinos are very racist and never took a stand in the civil rights fight in the 60's. Where were the hispanics during the Civil Rights Movement? This is your chance to have a candidate for everyone. The Whites and Blacks alike will vote for Obama. Why cant the Latinos see that Hillary is not Bill Clinton and she that Hillary can not win. She is too far behind in the delegate count.

opeluboy   March 11th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

The Dems are going to find a way to blow this. I think the Daily Show has aptly titled this primary season. Clinton is doing all she can to elect McCain.

Of course Clinton, and her backers in Florida especially, do not believe they must abide by any rules.

I can understand how Repugnicans can vote for her, but how people calling themselves Democrats can vote for this sleazeball is beyond me.

John from Cape Cod   March 11th, 2008 10:46 pm ET

This does'nt surprise me. I'm sure the GOP is Loving it!
DNC get your act together. Your your own worse enemy.

Marie K   March 11th, 2008 10:45 pm ET

I am against having a recount in Florida and Michigan. They broke the rules. They wanted to have a larger say in the democratic nomination by holding their primaried earlier. Noe, if we did do a "revote" they will end up being that "deciding factor" in the democratic nominee.

They broke the rules... let them vote in November!

Alice Rea   March 11th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Hillary won Florida.
Leave it and forget it.

Floridian   March 11th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

...sigh...Let them campaign and do another vote. I can't see how anyone can justify an election without campaigning. Florida will go republican in the end because of Hillary...if only she could have kept her word.

Independent-voter, Salt Lake City, UT   March 11th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Both candidates agreed to the rules. I think its wise to leave it at that, next time Florida & Michigan will be wiser.

What's done is done.

OBAMA 08!

Alice Rea   March 11th, 2008 10:44 pm ET

Florida should leave the vote as is. Barack was on the ticket. He wasn't invisible.

Just seat the delegates.

Michigan is the only one they should redo.

Patrick   March 11th, 2008 10:43 pm ET

They're saying they want to seat the January election delegates. Since they were the ones that got us into this mess I'm thinking their opinion is worth just about NOTHING right now.

Tony   March 11th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

Idiots.. thats all I seem to see here. Hillary has made some of you people just as divisive as her campaign. Rules are rules, nobody cared about Michigan and Florida until Hillary started loosing.

I guess the Patriots should ask for a rematch too since they felt they were destined? Give me a break..

Gillis, Phoenix, Arizona   March 11th, 2008 10:42 pm ET

I know I am willing to donate $1000 for a revote.

Mark   March 11th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

Since neither Obama nor Clinton campained in Florida and they both were on the ballot there, Florida delegates should be seated as is.

And since Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan, they should have a redo in some way there, mail-in or any other.

This will be fair to both candidates and will save a lot of money and efforts.

Dems '08

Janet in Florida   March 11th, 2008 10:40 pm ET

James in Bama needs to get his facts straight. Not everyone played fair. Obama was caught running ad's in Fla. Hillary and everyone else played fair not HIM.

Dian Mo   March 11th, 2008 10:39 pm ET

Y2K there was Florida recount. If Democrats want to win 2008 presidential election, the 210 delegates should divided by the existing rule and existing voting results.

ClintonSTRONG!!   March 11th, 2008 10:38 pm ET

They know the Latin and Cuban vote there will easily go for HILLARY!

HIllary!! Hillary!

Obama cannot win the general election..I am rejoicing in every RED state he wins..It goes to show you how fallen the democrats are there..

Relax Joe   March 11th, 2008 10:37 pm ET

50/50 won't happen.

Florida wants the vote to stand.

It either stands or a re-vote.

50/50 is moronic and absurd.

Ron   March 11th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

HILLARY and FERARRO 08 FIGHTERS FOR AMERICA

Allen   March 11th, 2008 10:36 pm ET

Please CATMOM.... Give it a break.... Your crook is having to walk back through all the old political mud she's slung about this whole champange... She's LOSING!!!!!!

{Nanue} Let's Keep It Real   March 11th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

What kind of FRACKELL NACKKEL BULL is this? Rules r rules! How can we as americans attempt to help establish Afghanistan with democracy & free & honest elections but yet and still spinless Howard Dean was considering to break the rules. Maybe he got a phone call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Police Officer (STL)
Obama supporter

Gillis, Phoenix, Arizona   March 11th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

There's no way in hell that those deligates would be seated as is. The rule is the rule. They are determined to change the rules and steal this nomination. Every time a black person demonstrates superiority you simply change the rules. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Teresa W.   March 11th, 2008 10:35 pm ET

The the State of Florida cannot afford to do a re-vote. Since 2006, Florida has had 2 major hurricanes. They're still trying to clean up that mess. I don't blame the DNC for opposing the re-vote. Clinton went against the rules. The deal is done. Now, deal with that.

Obama 2008

B. Smart   March 11th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

. . . .Floridians have had eight long years to get their act together and prepare
for an election. You would think that after a stolen election and 8 Bush
years later they would be ready on day one. Please don' let us have to
wait for them to count chads again

Obama. 08.

bond   March 11th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Break the rules pay the penalty. End of story. Quit whining!

Scoreboard Obama

lew rashkin   March 11th, 2008 10:34 pm ET

Split the votes evenly and get on with it.

joan freeney Tampa Fl   March 11th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Andrew, The facts are that both campaigns held "fundraisers" in Florida before the primary election and Obama even ran commercials. Yes Hillary was in Florida the day of the primary, she was not campaigning and most of us did not know she was here til the votes were counted. And to be perfectly clear both candidates were on the ballot!

Laura   March 11th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Whis a 50/50 split fair to?

Dadedi   March 11th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

I just want to say that we are not serious with our reasoning. What is the need for a 50/50 split? You are better off leaving the Floridians alone. Afterall they will vote for republicans in the fall.

Carlos   March 11th, 2008 10:33 pm ET

Obama/Colin Powell '08!

RSP   March 11th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

This has the Obama "faith-based" religious zealots so happy. But if you think you can just "not count" 5 million people in Michigan and Florida, you're crazy...and naive. But if you think an African-American who has spent the last two years campaigning for president instead of voting on any legislation has a chance to beat a POW, you're crazy again.

Hillary supporters will stampede to McCain rather than vote for Obama.

michael   March 11th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

We had a vote. I voted. Why not go with the millions of votes already counted. We all know it is hard for Florida to re-count.

intellegant voter   March 11th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

BARACK IS LEADING A GREAT CAMPAIGN AND CONTINUES TO NOT INSULT CLINTON......AND YOU STILL DONT LIKE HIM.....OK I SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING

Janet in Florida   March 11th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

Above the Fray is crazy. There will be no 50/50 in fla. We are a winner take all state and we won't have it any other way.
If we have a do-over it will be a primary since our state law won't allow anything else. For us to have a mail in they would have to change the law and I don't see that happening. So we should let our votes stand and give it to the winner Hillary Clinton. Obama is just mad that his ad's didn't work here. If our state doesn't get counted or it is given to Obama this is one Dem that will be voting for Ralph Nader or John MaCain along with alot of other Fla voters.

dave   March 11th, 2008 10:32 pm ET

I agree that Obama was the only candidate runnig ads in Florida and his excuse was that he bought it nationally but when he was campaining in Tx it was only ads for Texas. I have one thing to say, stop bashing our two candidates or we will never win in November. We have two great candidates, thats why is so great!

JosephC   March 11th, 2008 10:31 pm ET

haha. Democratic Leadership to the rescue. The DNC just torpedo'd the U.S.S Shrillary and she's sinking down to the brimey bottom.

OBAMA 08!

D.   March 11th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

Just count the one that was held in January. Voters already speaked their voice. DNC has no right to silence the voice, just count the results. And don't take away the victory that belongs to Clinton!

Tar's End   March 11th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

No advertising does not equal "100% fair" and equal when one candidate has incredible name recognition and the other has an odd foreign sounding name, the vote that was taken was not fair, let the voters of Florida make an informed choice. The ones responsible for violating the rules and wasting Florida taxpayer money by having a vote that didn't count, owe the Florida taxpayers the cost of a new Primary.

Phil   March 11th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

The Florida House Democratic delegation must be Hillary supporters. They want to seat the delegates at the DNC without a fair election and with no penalty.

Sorry Florida. There is no fair way to count your vote. Blame your state leaders and Howard Dean for this mess.

julie, ca   March 11th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Well, they can go with what the popular vote is throughout the country....Obama...that is fair.

Jay   March 11th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

Jay in Kansas clearly wants this election to go to the Supreme Court, because leaving Michigan as is where Obama followed the established rules and removed himself from contention would guarantee that.

John   March 11th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

I find it amusing that everyone is clamoring for Florida and Michigan's votes, yet 3 months ago, everyone, including the DNC, said "Don't worry about it, it won't be a big deal".

I didn't vote for a single one of the idiots in our (Florida) legislature responsible for this debacle, and I feel the current DNC leadership should be tossed out on it's head for their complete failure to negotiate a settlement in the Fall, before this became a typical DNC fiasco.

Eve   March 11th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

They (Floridians) chose this from the beginging. That is the end of the story. The choice was made and the consequences were understood. Their bed is made and now they need to go to sleep.

Judy E. from Wisconsin   March 11th, 2008 10:27 pm ET

P.S. I am an Obama '08 supporter, and I believe that in all fairness there needs to be a revote according to the stated DNC rules that were laid out beforehand in both Florida and Michigan.

Bill   March 11th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

None of this matters. Clinton will still get the Nomination regardless of what happens between now and the Convention. The backroom Democratic Machine will decide who it will be and Clinton has their support. End of story.

Slap Stick, FLORIDA   March 11th, 2008 10:26 pm ET

I could take my Slapping Stick to our political leaders here in Florida. A mail in vote, please my grandmother would be sent a ballot and she has not been with us in over 10 years.

50/50 split in Florida. No extra money needed!! What's wrong with Bill Nelson with this idea.

Mr. Lumpe   March 11th, 2008 10:25 pm ET

We must hold Florida and michigan to the same standard as we would apply to our own families. If you tell your children there will be consequences for doing something against the rules...then you must follow through.

Life_force5   March 11th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

Come on people Obama does not want those votes to count... If they did he would be losing.. I know I will vote for him in the Prim. but not in the Gen election.. lol

bob   March 11th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

to james in bama
go sleep you need it........

anita   March 11th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

Florida was apples to apples with respect to the candidates. LET IT STAND
Michigan is another kind basket

Cathy   March 11th, 2008 10:24 pm ET

All the candidates were on the ballot in Florida and Hillary won fair and square.I don't think Florida should do another preliminary.I do think their delegates should be seated from the election that already took place.Michigan however,should have another preliminary because only Hillary's name was on the ballot.

leah   March 11th, 2008 10:23 pm ET

o and by the way there was no rule about not being on the vote they just weren't allowed to campaign and neither hilary or obama did so it was fair in florida

Debby   March 11th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

I am not surprised since Nelson is an Obama supporter. Well Obama supporters congrats McCain just won the election.

Mike Allen   March 11th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

Lets look at the Hillary victories. She won Texas, OPPS after the Caucus votes she actually lost Texas. Well she won Michigan... yep she just barely beat the only other candidate who was 'no preference'. Okay Okay, she did win Ohio, uh huh after she crafted a decieptfull trick about Obama and Nafta with no time for the truth to come out before the vote. Hillary, you shameless monster. Drop out before you desroy the democrat Party.

Chad   March 11th, 2008 10:22 pm ET

If the Obama camp doesn't work to get the Florida/Michigan voters a chance, then it proves he cares more about politics than his rhetoric. Without his integrity, there's no chance to beat McCain.

Congratulation on the Mississippi primary. Hopefully reverse racism is enough to win the general election too.

Ferraro was just being honest.

gary   March 11th, 2008 10:21 pm ET

There should be a re-vote to give both candidates a fair shot at the nomination.I believes people's right to vote should overule any party's rules.This is not football,this is people's future and right ,win lose or draw.However I still finds it hard to believe florida voters and poll stations was not properly inform about this in the first place.The DNC should let everyone know not to put any democrats on the ballot then we would not have that problem.I strongly believe this was done deliberately by a RNC run state. wink wink.

Susan from Oregon   March 11th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

The voters in Florida and Michigan should be upset with whoever made the decision to hold the primary early, but they should not be able to re-vote. They should subtract the number of delegates from the total needed to become a nominee.

USAF   March 11th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

You people are in denial. These boards are a prime example of why neither Hilary or Obama will win the general election. Go ahead give yourselves a hand for a job well done and it's only March too!!! Way to go.

Fran   March 11th, 2008 10:20 pm ET

To Ronnie in Charlottesville.........It's people like you who give the US a bad name. Grow Up!!!!!!!!!

Jefferson   March 11th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

Florida had a primary already with ALL CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT!!! Consider the results of the primary held on January for Florida. Michigan is the only state that needs a revote.

Democrats look like idiots when they are not democratic at all. Same thing goes for that absurd Texas caucus: not democratic at all.

Charles Hardeman   March 11th, 2008 10:19 pm ET

This is how it works:

Obama snatched the baton from clinton, he ran with it, and he will stumble. And when that happens, he'll make Ralph Nader seem like a friend.

Just wait. I promise you.

JJ   March 11th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

All you folks posting comments - check the facts first.

Florida is ruled by republicans.
The republicans moved the promaries.

HOWARD DEAN decided to punish Florida - Howard Dean is the one person responsible for this mess.

BOTH CANDIDATES were on the ballot.

OBAMA ran ads in Florida after pledging not to campaign there.

Florida voters and Florida democrats DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE -
they turned out in large numbers to send a message to Howard Dean.

We need to count their vote as is.

Kelly Anne   March 11th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

What the ...?

Florida is a total mess.

I am sick of their own self-made troubles.

Just spilt them 50-50, seat them, and end this fiasco.

Florida not only brought us Bush in 2000, but is now trying to screw 2008 up.

Sherrie F.   March 11th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

Hillary will be screaming mad for her investment losses in pharmacutical drug companies intwined in her forced bogus health plan when statistics show how many decide they no longer need anti-depressants when Barack Obama becomes our next President Of United States Of America! Honesty & Hope travel far and wide... Oh dearie, Hillie.. your hurry and rush to deceive by flying off to Fla. tricks and cheating rules isn't showing the BEST of judgment AGAIN!!! You're running out a blame, ignorance and scare tactics little missy...
Now please, put some of your campaign funds from lobbyists towards a new, crystal-clear mirror!

Pamela   March 11th, 2008 10:18 pm ET

I think the voters who voted for Clinton would be outraged, if the votes were split down the middle. To make it fair for all parties....DON'T COUNT THEM A T ALL OR HAVE A REDO....Period!

Sharon   March 11th, 2008 10:17 pm ET

I'll tell you something, if I was a democrat, I would be revolting against them right now. I' switch to republican. How can they say people should be stripped of their rights because of what someone else did? Maybe the democratic party will need to see the results of their actions come the general election when the democrats either decide not to vote in Florida or Michigan or else decide to vote republican. They are just asking for it.

joe   March 11th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

cnn on election night...

"and florida goes to john mccain"

i wonder why?

suzie from Atlanta, GA   March 11th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

Please remember that Obama ran 30 days of advertising on cable in Florida prior to the Primary, and no one else did and still lost. The presidential vote was not the only issue on the Ballot in Florida. They also had State measures and issues that needed to be voted on, but did not vote. If the Obama people didn’t come out to vote for their STATE measures, because they didn’t care, that is beside the point. They had the same chance that ALL Floridians had to vote, not just for president, but for all the issues on the Ballot.

Obama REALLY lost that vote, because he ran those ads, and he blanketed the state with them. It proves that his support is for HIM, not for any party or issue.

Just reading the blogs and listening to those who are not just for Obama but HATE the Clintons is not change, it's ultra liberal feel good voting and race based support, which is perfectly legal, and fine. Just don't call it "change."

Obama represents the old Chicago Democratic party machine, the old way of taking money, and playing an insiders game, which is the only reason he is in the Senate (and Allen Keys).

I want a President I can trust to make the life or death decisions that will certainly come our way. Those decisions need to be based on experience in something other than voter registration and representing special interest groups on a local level. One Bush was enough, two was a mistake, and a third.......dangerous.

Obama supporters   March 11th, 2008 10:16 pm ET

Obama supporters(Pennysylvania for Obama, Chris),

spin all you want, if Obama gets GOP vote it's because he will unite the party. If hillary gets same vote,it's unfair. What's wrong with Obama supporters,all you say is where is Hillary tax returns. Hillary tax returns for past 20years have been in public domain, she said she will release return for this year in April. So you guys need to shut up because she will be releasing returns, where are the papers for relationship between Rezko & Obama. Obama does not even respond to that question, Hillary is getting GOP votes because they realize she is the best candidate. In past Obama used to get those but now they support Hillary because they know she will be the best candidate for president. Here are 2 things for Obama supporters
1. How Obama respond to his compaign presenting to Canadian Embasy that Obama's NAFTA comments were just POLITICAL BUT NOT POLICIES TO FIX IT.\
2.Obama top adviser said His view on Iraq war is just political BUT HAS NO PLANS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS.

THose 2 things say that whatever stump/rhetoric speech Obama gives on trail is just political not policies. THAT TELLS ME HE SAYS/DO ANYTHING DURING TO WIN NOMINATION JUST LIKE GEORGE W.BUSH, WE ALL KNOW WHAT BUSH GAVE US IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, YOU WILL REALIZE HOW REAL OBAMA IS WHEN HE ACTUALLY GET CHANCE TO FIX ISSUES,HE IS GIVING THIS SWEET HOPE BASED RHETORIC SPEECH TO JUST WIN ELECTION,JUST TYPICAL WASHINGTON POLITICS AND OLD WASHINGTON POLITICAL GAME.

Obama   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Can Obama have several running mates?

VP No.1 : Latino,

No.2 : female,

No.3: blue collars,

No.4 : one from kennedy,

No.5: one from kerry.

........

bob   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Good call.....

Jay   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

KC Atlanta...if Florida doesn't have a redo, the voters who didn't participate the first time because it wasn't supposed to count won't be having their voices heard.

If Florida is to count, it needs to have a new contest in which voters know that their vote will count BEFORE they cast it.

What's wrong with Obama supporters   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Obama supporters(Pennysylvania for Obama, Chris),

spin all you want, if Obama gets GOP vote it's because he will unite the party. If hillary gets same vote,it's unfair. What's wrong with Obama supporters,all you say is where is Hillary tax returns. Hillary tax returns for past 20years have been in public domain, she said she will release return for this year in April. So you guys need to shut up because she will be releasing returns, where are the papers for relationship between Rezko & Obama. Obama does not even respond to that question, Hillary is getting GOP votes because they realize she is the best candidate. In past Obama used to get those but now they support Hillary because they know she will be the best candidate for president. Here are 2 things for Obama supporters
1. How Obama respond to his compaign presenting to Canadian Embasy that Obama's NAFTA comments were just POLITICAL BUT NOT POLICIES TO FIX IT.\
2.Obama top adviser said His view on Iraq war is just political BUT HAS NO PLANS TO WITHDRAW TROOPS.

THose 2 things say that whatever stump/rhetoric speech Obama gives on trail is just political not policies. THAT TELLS ME HE SAYS/DO ANYTHING DURING TO WIN NOMINATION JUST LIKE GEORGE W.BUSH, WE ALL KNOW WHAT BUSH GAVE US IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE, YOU WILL REALIZE HOW REAL OBAMA IS WHEN HE ACTUALLY GET CHANCE TO FIX ISSUES,HE IS GIVING THIS SWEET HOPE BASED RHETORIC SPEECH TO JUST WIN ELECTION,JUST TYPICAL WASHINGTON POLITICS AND OLD WASHINGTON POLITICAL GAME.

Barry IL   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

There is no half-baked democracy. There is no genuinely democratic election that does not involve campaigns. Thus, the only fair game is dividing Florida delegates 50/50. Of course, Clinton campaign won't stop to play take-it-all game, given the chance. No revote, no 50/50 will lead democratic party into a disaster, a disaster which only Republicans will celebrate. Already signs are in. Democratic party is very much divided.

Obama   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Unfortunately Ferraro told the truth, for keep the
political correctness, she has to be blamed and clinton
has to come out clarify. I have said a couple of times,
Obama's win won't "make draem come to true", (somebody in
these forum also have the same dream), but intensify the
racial problem. You can close eye say 90% black vote for him
because they love him, but non-black criticizes him is racist.
Don't vote somebody because "his dream comes true", if he/she
cannot manage a country, his/her dream will be at the expense
of whole the country.

Obama selling hope and change is like a car salesman
selling a perfect car, but you (americans) just can't
afford the sticker price.

Chris Mannoia   March 11th, 2008 10:15 pm ET

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we a D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y??????????????????

The Democratic National Committee has no right to tell the voters in Florida and Michigan that they mean nothing to our electoral process!

I am a big Obama supporter, and I don't want to see HRC getting any closer to winning, but not at the expense of our basic constitutional principals...!

KROMSTOB   March 11th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

FOR ALL THOES THAT COMMENTED, PLEASE RE-READ THE ARTICLE. FLORIDA-UCH!

BNS   March 11th, 2008 10:14 pm ET

No re-do!!

If you had the sense to vote, then why should your vote not count?

Any re-do would be unfair - just as unfair as anyone who didn't choose to vote would say it is.

This state needs to follow the rules and appeal the the Credentials Comittee to be seated at the convention.

Period!

Rick   March 11th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

Breaking news – Since every candidate was on the ballot and Obama's ads were also televised there, DNC decides to keep Florida votes as polled and delegate distributed accordingly.

Illinois   March 11th, 2008 10:13 pm ET

I'm glad they won't do a mail in ballot as there's far too much likelihood of fraud. And I don't think splitting the votes 50-50 is a good idea either considering that Obama didn't earn a 50-50 vote. If Obama had taken FL by such a huge margin, people would be screaming to prevent a 50-50 split. Let them keep the same percentages with the original votes cast.....and finally put this thing to rest. The DNC and the governors totally screwed this up and the people should not have to pay for their incompetence.

Barbara   March 11th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

Why not let Floridas vote count as is since Obamas and Clintons names were not on the ballot. Then let Michigan revote since Clintons name was on their ballots and Obamas wasn't.Or just seat them and spend the next 4 yrs changing the system so we all vote in the primarys on the same day.

Tar's End   March 11th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

The vote that Florida had without any campaigning by any candidate was basically a popularity contest driven by name recognition, Florida's leaders made the decision to have a vote without seated delegates... those leaders should pay for a do-over with time for the candidates to campaign there.

Thomas For Hillary   March 11th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

Some of you Obama people are just naive and crazy. HELLO, either Obama or Hillary will need FL and MI to win the general election and ticking the people off in both the states are not smart especially FL. Some of Obama comments about FL won't help win the state in the end. This is not good, its looks good for Obama now, but in the end this not good at all.

Athan from MD.   March 11th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

50/50 does not make sense.

FLORIDA TALLY: Hillary: (870,986) 50% Obama: (576,214) 33%

SInce BOTH were on the ballot, just divide the delegates proportionaly to the votes. Duh!
Why re-vote?

Michigan is another story. Re-vote.

Carmen   March 11th, 2008 10:12 pm ET

If Obama is so sure that he would be the frontrunner, then why is he so afraid of a re-vote whether at the polls or by mail?

Chris   March 11th, 2008 10:11 pm ET

Florida's House Democratic delegation is not the voters...what do the people want to do. They are the ones being punished. Ask them, not the politicians!!!!!

joe   March 11th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

CNN ON ELECTION NIGHT...

"AND FLORIDA GOES TO SEN. JOHN MCCAIN"

I WONDER WHY?

cathrine   March 11th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

Those 50:50 split is just so stupid! Obama, if you are afraid of re-vote, just let Florida and MI know.

Roger, AR   March 11th, 2008 10:09 pm ET

So the people of Florida will not be heard and Obama supporters are celebrating. Typical.

Dung Le   March 11th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Whatever you partisan people is trying to do, just make sure that the voice of your citizens are heard.

There is no possible explanation to the fact that the right of Florida people to elect a President is ripped off because of the moving up primary date that was decided by someone else!

White woman for Obama   March 11th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

If a revote was done despite the rules which were put in place way before the primarys then the party would have been crushed!...question: why was'nt Billary calling for a revote months ago?? answer: because she was ahead!!!....The PEOPLE of Florida and Michigan knew the rules and understood them and it's funny to me how they'r not the ones complainging about a revote it's HILLARY AND HER REPUBLICAN FRIENDS...well im VERY happy democracy is served and justice pervailed....VERY PROUD OF YOU FLORIDA DELEGATION GUYS :)

Jay   March 11th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Good for them. As long as they also don't have any delusions of counting January's poisoned results.

LS   March 11th, 2008 10:08 pm ET

Is it me or is evryone blaming the DNC instead o taking responsibilty. It was GOvernor Crist( a Republican) and governor Granholm ( a Clinton supporter). How can the DNC choose which rule to enforce?
Floridians are very stupid to not point the finger at themselves. THis always happen with Florida when the Democrats have a candidate that pumps them up. This goes back to Al Gore...LOL!

nicole, WI   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Florida, stick to your votes!! NO one has the right to strip people's voice!! Obama broke the rule and played the ad in Florida! ! Democrats leaders are gang of losers! within 30 years, only the clintons can win the general election!

Grif   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Time will tell, who has the Bias..... Democracy????

Dave in Sagaponack   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Let it be split 50/50 and leave it at that. The election system was broken because name recognition gave Hillary a huge advantage early in the primary season, and that edge has been slipping away the longer the elections go on.

Brian   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

If they want the delegates seated let's be fair 50/50...... period...... anything else is biased based on the candidates.

prentice wysingle III of Sacramento,CA   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

In a society based on rules cemented in fairness and commonsence how can any Dem. want a re-vote in the two states that opposed the common interest of the dem.'s nation-wide by breaking the rules of the DNC.To allow a re-vote or count those delegates to be seated would be a rewarding them (local party leaders) for their actions.Let the voters of those states work it out in their own state elections next time they come around.they (the local party leaders and officials) all knew the election was coming but did nothing but wait to try to steal the spotlight and pine for media attention After all ...all the candidates agreed not to campaign in those states,why change up now?.Without rules we are little better than THEY who we oppose."A divided against its self cannot stand!"

Dennis   March 11th, 2008 10:07 pm ET

Anyone want to wager how Florida will screw up an election in 2012?

Jay   March 11th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Read again folks. They want the votes that were cast already to be seated as it. Meaning Hillary won!!!

Black Republican in New York   March 11th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

Nuff respect to the Florida House Democratic delegation's position against re-votes and allowing the DNC to figure a way to seat the 210 delegates.

Chris Dodd (D-Conn) came up with a reasonably good solution that costs not a dime and the delegates will still be seated. He said the DNC should split the delegates 50/50.

But since John Edwards was still in the race when Florida (as well as Michigan) held its contest, I think it is only fair to Edwards that he be given some delegates. So, give Hillary and Obama 40% each and Edwards the remaining 20%.

If party rules allow for withdrawn contesants to bequeath delegates to other contestants still in the race, then Edwards can make his endorsement and bequeath his delegates to the contestant he endorsed. Or he can refuse to endorse and simply split his delegates evenly between Hillary and Obama.

Truth be told, if all this confusion in the Democratic race is a sign of how the Democrats will run the country if they win the White House, then I welcome all distressed democrats to vote John McCain in November.

Reality check #1   March 11th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

The vote was done, let Hillary have her share of delegates that she rightfully won. Obama was on the ticket just like she was.

mishte   March 11th, 2008 10:06 pm ET

I have a question for John King, actually.

Isn't the total delegate number (2025) based on the calculation AFTER FL and MI were excluded?

Won't including them (via re-vote, or even re-seating ) increase the final delegate number significantly?

When John King does his fabulous job of illustrating the different delegate scenarios, when the hypothetical inclusion of these two states does not alter the final number.

I don't understand why either Democrat would want to make that final number higher, given the fact that historically, given time and the ability to campaign in any state, Obama closes and exceeds any high gaps in delegate wins. Why would Clinton want this at ALL? Especially when FL has been a red state in the general election for 30 years?

MB   March 11th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

What I would like to know is Why Gov. Christ is screaming so loud for these delegates to be seated when it was his decision to not have them count in the first place? Probably because he's Republican? He can now "look" like he's really working hard for all FL voters when he knows the chances of a revote is slim to none! I wouldn't trust that guy!

And Clinton only wants them seated NOW that she is behind.......... interesting that she understood and agreed they wouldn't be seated when she thought the race would be over on Super Tuesday.

To the SUPERDELEGATES........ please, end this nightmare for the sake of our country and the hate and racial divides that are happening before our eyes. What must the world think of us? End this please!

PEACE   March 11th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

Stick to our your stance Florida. You had a legitimate election, even though Obama ran ads in your state when he wasn't supposed to. Votes and delegates SHOULD be counted!

sharon   March 11th, 2008 10:05 pm ET

are you Obama groupies afraid your preacher will lose in these states is that your problem all he has to do is write another sermon he's real good at speech making!!!

Robby Lyon   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Both Clinton and Obama were on the ticket in Florida. Neither had campaigned there. I think they should take the Florida votes as is and seat the delegates. Obama may complain that if he campaigned there that he would of done better if not win Florida. I believe if we were to have new primaries in other states that Obama would not do as good or even loose to Hilary. She is gaining and he is falling. Even in todays primary in Mississippi, Hilary is doing better than expected. Plus in the lates polls Obama has dropped a couple of points in PA. The Obama camp wants a 50/50 because any other way would mean a Clinton vitory.

Hilary '08

Robby
Kenai, Alaska

Cindy   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

Why do I get the feeling... they want to get away with... everything?

No revote? So Hillary gets more delegates per the illegal vote if the DNC allows them to be seated?

Bettie   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

so far it doesn't show that voters are voting based on racial difference but now cnn is making an issue that it is. There is something wrong with these pictures. Please let's make these elections about who would be the best candidate for Democratic Party; it looks like cnn is doing good job-dividing voters by pressing issues on racial elections. It is disappointing to see white voter and black voters are the main issues of the elections. The way I see it this is an election of American people are participating in all age and all ethnic group. This change should be embraced.

Texas4Obama   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

A 50/50 split of the delegates is the only fair way to go now. They broke the rules and shouldn't get any special treatment or any money.

aliou   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

thanks florica. good judgement.

thanks pelosi for your good judgement too.
thanks dean for holding your grounds.

luis   March 11th, 2008 10:04 pm ET

if Obama wins the nomination latinos will support McCain. without the latino vote Obama can't win the white house that"s a fact!!!!

Dave   March 11th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

What makes Florida think their delegates should be seated now? NOW WAY! Florida voted early in violation of the rules knowing full well the consequences. FLORIDA, YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE A SENSIBLE ELECTION! Get real. No seats for Florida delegates in the Democratic convention. This whole aruguement is an outrage.

Kim Lee   March 11th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

I see some who post in here from Europe who love Hillary so much. Maybe because thay are so very left socialist like she is. I am from Korea. In asia when one lies and cheat so much to grabbing power. We call those the Dictators.

Penny   March 11th, 2008 10:03 pm ET

I don't think there should be a revote in Florida. The votes should stand as they are. Both candidates were on the ticket and ALL voters had a chance to mark their ticket.

Besides, lets give Al Sharpton something to do.

clinton   March 11th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

check mate!

sharon   March 11th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

It was not the average person in florida that moved the vote up so why should they be punished for something they had no control over they were just told when to vote.

clinton   March 11th, 2008 10:02 pm ET

The question is should we get hillary some aspirin? Cause you know she is gonna have a heart attack lol.

oneway   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

I agree 50/50 for both states, and also give the super delegates 30 days to decide then slit the rest of the there votes 50/50 then let them battle it out to the end.

Sameer   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Never in my lifetime I have seen the democrats so split as they are now. It did not happen during Carter, Clinton, Al Gore, Kerry but it happened now and guess who is to blame. Obama is the root cause of splitting the party, it would have not happened if anyone against Hillary but Obama.

All his big talk of hope and uniting the country, he ended up dividing his own party. Shame on you Obama. I wish people who voted for him during Super Tuesday had seen more of him that they see now and he would not be where he is now to brag about winning more states that Hillary, which are red states and will go to the Republicans anyway.

aliou   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

no, no revote.

I didn't vote because it didn't count. and it shouldn't count. you can't be making rules after the game.

However, the split of the delegate should reflect those who voted through out the nation and who respected the rules of the party.

Allen   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Sorry earl the great people of florida will not stand by and let another crooked politician steal another election....

mo4obama   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Michigan and Florida being allowed in because a black man is
leading, won't fool anyone. Thats whats wrong with democrats today we make the rules as the game is being played

Teresa in Kansas   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Florida understands the rules and have decided to play by them.

Hillary should learn to do the same.

Justin in CA   March 11th, 2008 10:01 pm ET

Thank god!!! They can vote in the real election. I lived in Florida for two years and it will always have a special place in my heart, but how many elections dose this state get to mess up? That is the real question.

Kris   March 11th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

If they demand the current vote as it stands, then the Florida democrats are going to have to suck it up and understand that their delegates will not count.

If Florida voters feel disenfranchised, they can blame it on their arrogant governor and their state Democratic party leaders and vote them out of office when they get a chance.

The nerve!

catmom   March 11th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

Why 50-50 ? Hillary won, everyone was on the ballot. Obama had an advantage , he had an ad running in Florida. Even though he says that it was something he couldn't control, he broke the rules. Most Obama fans say that Hillary didn't "play fair" because she didn't take her name off the ballot in MI. She didn't have to and it wasn't against the rules. She played it smart, give her credit. Florida does not need a do over. Hillary won, she should get the votes, all of them.

Elliott   March 11th, 2008 10:00 pm ET

the votes cant be counted as they are. many voters voted before election day, voted for a canidate that didnt win that state. shouldnt the absentee ballots count?

bob   March 11th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

THATS THE BEST WAY TO GET OUR VOTES IN FLORIDA

GOING TO MCCAIN NOW

Southerner   March 11th, 2008 9:59 pm ET

What some of you Obama supporters are missing is that the FL Democratic party doesn't support revotes because they want their last primary to stand.

Hillary won, and Obama was the only candidate to run ads in FL.

The 50/50 delegate split thing isn't fooling anyone. That is basically saying that Florida's vote doesn't count. Or should I say "nobody is falling for that Okeydoke".

Willie   March 11th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

Well, there goes Florida for the democratic party in the general election. If Clinton is not the nominee, we might as well call it quits.

Hispanics   March 11th, 2008 9:58 pm ET

I dont see why the DNC wants a re-vote in Florida when all the candidates names were on the ballot. In any case, most Latinos will vote for McCain in the General election.

maya   March 11th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Um, folks bashing Hillary- this is actually GOOD for her (read the article again). And good for Florida and for the party. We are supposed to be the party that COUNTS the votes, remember?!

Jay in Kansas   March 11th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

Well seat them as is.. that's simple.

Obama can't be mad if his voters didn't do their duty to vote.

Same with Michigan. Leave the "uncommitted" votes "uncommitted" no way you can give them to Obama and HE took his name off the ballot.

Political experience and executive experience are now points that Hillary can use to convince voters that she is the best nominee for president.

JAMES IN BAMA   March 11th, 2008 9:57 pm ET

FLORIDA LAREADY VOTED ONCE!!!! BOTH NAMES WERE ON THE BALLET, AND THE CAMPAIGNING AND ADVERTISING WERE ACTUALLY EQUALL IN THIS ONE...NO ONE DID!! IT WAS 100% FAIR, AND NOW SOME PEOPLE WANT A RE-DO. I MEAN WHAT IF THEY DONT GET WHAT THEY WANT THE NEXT TIME...A BEST 2 OUT OF 3. FOR GOODNESS SAKES LET THOSE VOTES AND DELEGATES STAND AND WORK ON THE REAL ISSUE, MICHIGAN!!! WHERE IT WASNT AN EXACTLY FAIR CONTEST! COME ON, GET IT RIGHT> DONT WASTE MONEY AND TIME. GET THOSE DELEGATES SEATED AND STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT..

KMB   March 11th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

I can not imagine how the a decision can be reached with the vote as is. The candidates did not campaign in FL. To seat the delegates based on the original vote would not work. In every state the Democratic vote has been significantly higher than the Republican vote. However, in FL the opposite was true which seems to suggest many voters stayed home knowing their vote was null & void.

It is simple. The FL voters should oust their elected officials and the original rules agreed to by all should be followed. The only other plausible solution would be a democratic only re-vote or a caucus.

Patricia   March 11th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

equal split or nothing...... only fair thing left to do.

keith   March 11th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

Florida is off the table Hillary.

It looks like a 50/50 split.

Let's see Ferraro stating the true feelings of the Clinton campaign, Miss. loss, Texas caucus win with Obama getting more delegates than her out of Texas and now this. And Peter Paul on the way.

When it rains it pours.

Ronnie...Charlottesville, Va   March 11th, 2008 9:56 pm ET

I think a re-do is definitely in order but not something as unscientific as a mail in.
A simple poll at Ben & Jerry's shops across the state should be conducted.
Voters would be given a choice of chocolate or vanilla.
A third choice: The dream ticket of chocolate/ vanilla swirl. Uh...make that VANILLA/ chocolate swirl.

KC Atlanta   March 11th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

I agree that Florida doesn't need a redo. Their primary should stand as is because all candidates were on the ballot. Michigan is a different story. Even though Obama chose to remove his name, It wasn't on the ballot. I feel the voters in both of these important states should have their voices heard.

Above the Fray   March 11th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Florida's political party leaders are incompetent idiots. Under no circumstances can a re-vote be trusted. Florida's delegates must be split 50/50 or not seated at all. Perhaps Florida will learn how to conduct proper elections sometime in the next decade.

Andrew   March 11th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

How else do they expect their votes to count? I don't care who you support, it is utterly ridiculous to believe that the primary held in January was fair. Senator Obama followed the rules given to him by the party and was not on the ballot. Senator Clinton, however, did not. Now she wants the votes to count. Are you kidding me?

Erin   March 11th, 2008 9:55 pm ET

Hey Florida – you might want to pay attention when you vote next time. How many times do you have to screw up an election? You did a great job with Bush – not!

Blankman   March 11th, 2008 9:54 pm ET

Florida should fire everyone in there states government! They make this conutry look like a joke every election year! I believe the only fair way is a revote... and it should come out of the current states DNC party members pocket. They are the reason that THIER people are not being heard! If they did not break the rules to begin with, we would not be in this mess. Sad really that the whole state get punished for a couple of dumb people with power.

Chris in Va.   March 11th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

Sorry New York South, your state Dems decided to move up your primary even after being told by the DNC that you would not be seated. What do you think they were kidding?

JAMES IN BAMA   March 11th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OBAMA IS NOT GETTING THE WHITE VOTE AND IN PARTTICULAR THE WHITE MALE VOTE. AND OLDER PEPLE ARE COMMITED TO HILALRY BACAUSE OF WHAT A CLINTON WHITE HOUSE WOULD MEAN TO SENIORS, IT MAY IN FACT GO TO MCCAIN IF OBAMA GETS THE NOMINATION. AND ITS NO SECRET OBAMA DOESNT GET THE LATINO VOTE AND THEY WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN IF THEY DONT HAVE THEIR CANNIDATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC RACE. AND THAT WILL MOST LIKELY LOOSE US FLORIDA, AND BRING STATES LIKE OHIO, AND ARKANSAS AND OTHER STATES HILLARY WOULD MOST LIKEY CARRY INTO QUESTION, ALONG WITH STATES SHE MIGHT COULD WIN LIKE TEXAS THAT OBAMA DOESNT HAVE AS MUCH OF A CHANCE IN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD LOOSE THE ELECTION AFTER ALL.

earl illingsworth   March 11th, 2008 9:53 pm ET

This is exactly why Putin of Russia calls their democracy different than ours? P.S. You might also say the same for Pakistan? The Neo- Democrat

VOTER FOR TRUTH AND DIGNITY IN AMERICA   March 11th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

Thank you Florida. Most likely after all that money is spent.
with the race going as it is, the voters would be split.
I, for Obama would have wanted to see the Fla votes
and Voters respected and feel the damage has been done.

A mail in vote wouldn't be real fair. Wonder what would happen
to the ballots that would be mailed for the people that are deceased
of have moved and vote elsewhere. There would be no way to
track them and it could be a mess.

Retired Professional w/Woman of 63 for Obama 2008

H2   March 11th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

Great news! we need to send a clear message to our children that our actions have consequences. The rules were put in places one year ago, why can't we abide by them? Is does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we must play by the rule. The DNC – FL and MI leaders need to send out a clear message that there must be no re-vote.

Obama is the one   March 11th, 2008 9:52 pm ET

LOLOLLOLLLLLLLLLLL i knew it!!!! about time someone took the iniative since Howard dean apparently was'nt going to...If the democratic party let Hillary and her republican cohorts get her way then Mccain will definately be in the white house! i knew my party is smarter than that and would'nt let this happen!!!!!:)

Shannon, Charlottesville, Virginia   March 11th, 2008 9:51 pm ET

after the 2000 debacle, i wouldn't trust florida to do a revote, especially by mail!

they broke the rules, understood the consequences. you made your bed, now lie in it.

James   March 11th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Ha Ha Ha. Looks like Hillary's push to get the Florida superdelegates just blew up.

Allen   March 11th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

Theres a big ole slap in your FACE Billary!!!!!!

bond   March 11th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

50/50 delegate split

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