March 12, 2008
Posted: 10:15 AM ET
 Clinton is urging the Michigan and Florida delegations be seated.
Clinton is urging the Michigan and Florida delegations be seated.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Hillary Clinton said Wednesday it is crucial Michigan and Florida voters not be disenfranchised from the 2008 primary process and, and that the dispute over how Democratic votes from those states may be counted needs to be resolved quickly.

Her comments came amidst a fresh push by her campaign to ensure delegations from both states are seated at the party's summer convention, as negotiations over a resolution seemed to hit roadblocks.

"The nearly two and a half million Americans in those states who participated in the primary elections are in danger of being excluded from our democratic process and I think that's wrong. The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored," she told a breakfast gathering hosted by the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce Foundation in Washington. "In my view there are two options: honor the results or hold new primary elections. I don't see any other solutions that are fair."

Earlier Wednesday, Clinton campaign manger Maggie Williams sent a letter to Barack Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe, urging that the two camps come together to forge a speedy resolution to this problem — even though any such agreement would not be official Clinton's name appeared on Michigan's ballot, Obama's did not. Both candidates' names were on Florida's ballot, but neither campaigned actively there. Clinton did make an appearance in Davie, Florida on the evening of that state's primary once the polls had closed.

"Whether voters are clamoring for solutions to the challenges we face or not or whether people are coming out in droves to be heard we have a basic obligation to make sure every that every vote in America counts," Clinton said, echoing comments she has made since both states voted in late January.

"I hope that Senator Obama's campaign will join me in working to make that happen. I think that that is a non-partisan solution to make sure that we do count these votes."

Clinton is scheduled to attend closed fundraisers in Washington and will address the National Newspaper Publishers Association Wednesday evening.

– CNN Senior Political Producer Sasha Johnson

Filed under: Hillary Clinton


connie   March 12th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

i live in florida ,i think everyone should have their right to vote heard. we as voters did not chose to vote early it was decided for us,by republicans. maybe i am the only one that feels this way, but if my vote doesn't count now,way should i vote in the general election. politics are so crooked.i voted in the early primary,only to learn later that it didn't count. Every year it is something different.I am a democrat that would vote to Mc Cain if the country doesn't in such trouble, guess i probable won't vote at all since Florida isn't part of the U>S> anymore and we don't count.

Kiwi   March 12th, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Senator Clinton, please, please shut up. As a Florida voter I am so tired of hearing this over and over. I see no reason as to why my state should get to vote again after we very obviously and very blatantly broke rules that we knew about. So, whatever. Not changing who I vote for.

kombo kikiechi florida   March 12th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Let the party official decide on the rules of voting and let not the so called clintons try to quiz the rules.However whichever the way Obama is going to emerge as the winner. AM Hillary supporter but i know we can not win in this two states coz the no of the democrats is growing on the need of a presidential candidate to tackle McCain by holding the bulls horns. Let us UNITE TO WIN

Interesting   March 12th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Clinton spends more time trying manipulate the public than discussing the issues. More and more she reminds me of George W in her tactics. With her experience she shouldn't need all these tricks.

Governors Punished their people   March 12th, 2008 11:50 am ET

48 States followed the rules. Only the gvernors of 2 states decided to violate them. Give thoses states a way to revote and I garanty you that next time 48 states would feel no obligation to be tied to thoses called rules. The only people the population of Florida and Michigan should accuse is their governors. The Governors desenfranchised them, Not the D. Party. Knowingly they deceided to violate the rules. Hwo chose the governors? Ask for answer from your governors! The D. Party has nothing to do about that!

Karen   March 12th, 2008 11:49 am ET

They said on CNN last night that if Hillary wins all the other states and BEATS Obama 65% to 35% in both Florida and Michigan than she will win the nomination and have the most votes. Also she WILL win PA. She might be able to do it…There are not that many black people in those states and she will get the majority of the white vote in them. I don't think he has a chance and I think it is time to face it, she will be the nominee. However I think she will have to change her tactics to beat McCain, because it will be hard for her to use race card going up against him. I think the sex card is what she will use. However if you notice 2/3 days before every election takes place she or someone from her team shakes up a debate…Try to reel in people. Start noticing how she does it…She is good at this game.

intellegant voter   March 12th, 2008 11:49 am ET

to all voters in mich and florida……do you guys really think HILLARY is doing this for you or her campaign…lol….pretty obvious to me…..rules are rules….but even if you break the rules and revote i believ OBAMA WILL DO QUITE WELL…..A REVOTE WILL SECURE HIS NOMINATION WITHOUT A CONVENTION……….HILLARY WOULD NOT BE SO PRO MICH AND FLA IF SHE LOST…….SINCE THESE 2 STATES LET TIME EXPIRE FOR ANOTHER PRIMARY…..AND NOBODY WANTS A MAIL IN……THAT LEAVES US TO CAUCUSES OR SEAT THE DELEGATES 50/50……OBAMA OUR NEXT PRESIDENT….LETS ALL GET BEHIND HIM…….ALLOW THESE YOUNG AND INDEPENDANT PEOPLE TO EXPAND YOUR DEMOCRATIC BASE…..DONT YOU WANT THAT…..ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG PEOPLE……CREATES A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF DEMOCRATIC VOTERS….U WANT TO CRUSH THERE HOPES FOR THIS PARTY……SHE CANNOT CATCH HIM

RJ Hopkins   March 12th, 2008 11:49 am ET

Can the Clinton's sink any lower than they alread have ? First, they support the DNC, now they demand a re-vote or let the previous election stand. Are these the actions of a President ? Or are they Presidental ? For the past 8 years, we have lived under these exact same mind set, make the rules up as we go, when it benefits ! The DNC will forever lose control over the states, if they bow to this self-serving pressure. No states in the future will follow their rules,

John   March 12th, 2008 11:49 am ET

Go ahead and redo them we'll roll over Hillary there too, give us a little time, people will flock to Barack just like the rest of the country, it onl;y takes about 5 minutes for people to see what a monster Bill and Hillary are. Two headed no brains monster. Give them a cigar. lol

Brenda, NC   March 12th, 2008 11:49 am ET

The Florida primary election should be honored—all candidates were on the ballot and none of them campaigned there—it was a fair vote. The only fair way to handle a do-over vote is by a primary election because every person has the right to vote for the candidate of their choice without pressure. No to Caucus vote—caucuses should be banned and outlawed. No to mail-in vote—it would be a nightmare. Yes to official Primary Election if do-over is necessary.

Mlewis   March 12th, 2008 11:48 am ET

where were the Clintons when Al Gore needed a recount?

Linda   March 12th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Both FL and MI could have avoided this whole mess if they would have strongly protested BEFORE THEIR PRIMARIES!!!!!!! Their mistake was waiting until after their primaries before deciding that the issue needed to be contested. That is their own fault. Obama played by the rules, it is NOT fair that MI votes be counted when he wasnt even on the ballot. You don't punish someone for following the rules.

Dan   March 12th, 2008 11:48 am ET

No one should eliminate the voting right for voters in both states of Michigan and Florida. If anyone forces the elimination of both states in the democrats primary, they will eventually loss their supports from both states which will give no chance for democrats nominee to win in this November. Therefore, it is better for both sides to come up a resolution in seating the delegates from both states in the Democrat Convention, either using the last primary results or re-do the primary.

ernie   March 12th, 2008 11:48 am ET

all you obama soppters give your self a rest and grow up if you been watching the media other then being draw in to obama wrape you would no that neither obama or clinton could win with out the super delagtes and so far she still wining the super ,so wake up and smell the coffee so you could knock her all you want you just upset that you didnt close the deal in ohio and texas when you had the chance to with that lose no it impossibale to win with out super delgates so go for hillary the only canditate that belive all vote should count other then obama who dont belive that way if he does he be pushing this issue to but senice he not what that tell you

David, Atlanta, GA   March 12th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Clinton is hypocritical. She is getting louder and louder calling for the Florida delegates to be seated, because the delegate math is increasingly showing that she can't win without them. She didn't care this much about the poor voters of Florida and Michigan when she thought she would have the nomination wrapped up by Super Tuesday,

Anton Mitton   March 12th, 2008 11:47 am ET

They broke the rules, they pay the consequences. No revote!

Dani   March 12th, 2008 11:47 am ET

Yeah! LoL! Just because Obama had to " really fire" which was publicized as a rezignation to make him look like the gentle hero, his camp is now looking to put the negative spot light (as usual ) back on Hillary and her staff! Just listen to what was said and you can clearly hear no racist remarks whatsoever! She more or less was talking about the ineqaulity of women vs. men- you know the oppression that stil inflicts women today. But, it is true, if you tell a black person you don't like their shirt, you're a racist! Jay Foxworthy, really funny guy-love him (and by no means do I suggest he shares my views or comments) could tastefully make light of this ridiculous world we live in! Tell me you don't like my shirt and the worst outcome is that you may have hurt my feelings, the best is well I do like my shirt, but I'm certainly not going to call you a woman hater! Furthermore, I think it's right! Since all the names were on the ballots in Florida, those votes should automatically count! Save the millions of dollars that can feed the poor, weak, hungry and homeless!
As far as Michigan goes, why shouldn't their voices be heard? You wouldn't like it if the Republicans irresponsibly moved up the voting date and as a result your vote is disqualified! You would be outraged!
So yes, revote in Michigan! And the Democrats should not have to suffer and be divided on something that wasn't their decision in the first place! Why did anyone let this happen in the first place?! Someone should have stepped in and said, you have to wait until it's voting time! This is alot of unecessary B.S.! I'm not a Republican, but I'm sure everyone of them is laughing hard at the absurdity of the Democratic voting process and how it tends to lower the standards of well-qualified candidates ! Don't you know KISS? Keep it simple stupid!
Hillary 08

Just the Facts   March 12th, 2008 11:47 am ET

I think its ironic that she is talking about "disinfranchising" voters when she has blown off the importance of every "caucus" state, every "small" state, every crossover state she didn't win….cry me a river…

danny   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

count all votes in all 50 states

Jen B.   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Hillary, author of "It takes a village to raise a child". Is there a chapter in there entitled, "Rules are made to be broken".
I can't believe I considered giving her my vote at the start of this campaign.

Obama 2008

Ilse   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

We have an ethical and moral dilemma here. On the one hand we have rules that were set by some stupid politicians; on the other hand you have the voices of the people. Now ask yourselves this: when one conflicts with the other, which has priority over the other? It's a no-brainer. Peoples voices must prevail and rules must be broken. There is no other way. In your hearts you know it. You really know it.

Clift, Burlingame, CA   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Why could Mrs. Clinton not have intervened when they were planning to change their primary dates? It was her responsibility as a potential national leader to ensure the DNC's rules were followed. Further, she should stand fast against ignoring the rules. What kind of a president is willing to break rules for a handful of votes? A crook, that's who.

Michael - Washington State   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

I am sorry that she feels it is OK to break the rules that all agreed upon. I am sure if she were in the lead she would not be begging everyone to count these States. Those States knew the rules and did not want to abide by them so they should remain punished.

mr singh   March 12th, 2008 11:46 am ET

Obama should hold press conf to say he doesn't want voters disenfranchised in MI and FL. remind voters about America voting history, the world like in Africa and Iraqis voting for first time. He shouldn't be afraid of a revote because most likey he will still win delegates as the margins will be similar to TX and OH. And the party can see how many people turn out to get an idea of the turnout in general election. Also if there are disputes in general needing a recount, the republicans will then say like why are democrats whning so much when they disenfranchised the voters of FL and MI.

As for geralidine ferraro, the fact is if Mondale had run with another male as VP, he's chances of winning would've been greater. Who would put a woman in top job with charismatic figure as reagan then and today with war and terrorism escapes me!! All these women care about is the NOW crowd and abortion issue which has hurt democratic party times over. Have you ever heard Obama say to Clinton that whites only vote for her because she's white??? No!!!

It is good Obama is who he is: a mixed American half white half black. That is America. A country of many kinds of people. How can Americans not think that one day slaves would want to be free and thier children someday want to be president? If you don't like black american as president then your ancestors never should've taken the blacks from their country!!

Paul   March 12th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Go back to New York Hillary and give some of your wise advice to Spitzers wife. You more than anyone should know what she's going through. You've been through it how many times now, 100's???

ds   March 12th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Hillary, where is your honor? FL and MI voters knew that their delegates weren't going to be seated. If they didn't, then shame on them. The really disenfranchised voters didn't even bother to show up. What should we do about them? Even my first grader knows that it's disrespectful to change the rules after the game has started.

troy   March 12th, 2008 11:45 am ET

split the delegates of MI and Ohio, half to Hillary and half to Obama or divid them according to the national percentages of the states that have voted, and let's get on with this. Troy

Woody   March 12th, 2008 11:45 am ET

I think Obama should pick Ann Coulter to be his Vice President running mate should he win the democratic nomination. After all, they both don't know what they are talking about and both would be an administration that is bipartisan — one who has nothing to say (Obama) and one who has too much to say (Coulter).

How's that for a winning ticket?

jp/michigan   March 12th, 2008 11:45 am ET

I voted in Michigan. I tell you with all the advertising in both Detroit papers telling voters to vote uncommitted for Obama, it was like he was there. Conyers and his wife were one of those who pushed the uncommitted to Obama. If my votes doesn't count and delegates are not sent, I diffidently will vote in November ,Rebuplican or independent. The democratic party is already divided this country in to white vs black

Linda   March 12th, 2008 11:44 am ET

How in the world can she call Michigan "fair" when she was the only name on the ballot???? This woman is pathetic.

Matt   March 12th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Voters in Florida and Michigan:

Stop blaming the DNC for your problems. Your legislatures, fully aware of the rules and consequences, decided to change the date. Your governors, fully aware of the consequences, had a chance to veto those bills but decided to sign them anyways. Your states were calling the DNC's bluff. Too bad the DNC was holding the nuts.

Hold the people that are responsible accountable for your predicament, not the DNC. Impeach your governors, don't re-elect them, whatever.

Holly   March 12th, 2008 11:43 am ET

Actually, Obama followed the rules by omitting his name….

Dems need to suck this up…Hillary and Obama agreed to the loss of delegates. Hillary is trying to break the rules now…it seems like there is a reason…hmmmm. She lies maybe? Yep.

AJ   March 12th, 2008 11:43 am ET

The votes only count when they are votes for her. We've seen and heard her time and time again downplay ALL of the Obama victories claiming them to be red states and small states but this is a fight for the nomination and every vote counts in order to get delegates for the convention. And that's exactly why Obama has more delegates and will win this nomination.

The fact that she is claiming that the votes in FL and MI were fair even though they didn't campaign and his name wasn't on the ballad in MI should tell the American people exactly the type of "fairness" Clinton is talking about. It only matters when she has a shot. But she's still behind. And given the state of the race today, the gap will probably be even closer if they do a revote anyway!

Adam Orlando Florida   March 12th, 2008 11:43 am ET

I am from Florida, and I took off of work to vote, because it should be the right of each american to do so and for it to count. Just count the votes, everyone knew who they were voting for when it happened.

Hillary 2008!

For Hillary 08   March 12th, 2008 11:43 am ET

Good for HIllary!!
I'm so tired of people trying to down play the importance of these 2 sates. Last time I looked there were 50 states that needed to be counted in order for there to be a fair election. Are we not going to count these states in November as well?
Count the delegates and put the cry baby Obama in his place. He's playing with the big boys and can't keep crying racism all the time.
Maybe we should put both candidates behind a curtain and disguise their voices. Then we can make them talk about their issues and let the people decide that way. I think things would change if race and sex were set aside. Go Hillary!

Joe-Wilmington, DE   March 12th, 2008 11:43 am ET

Gee, I wonder if Hillary was ahead in the delegate count if she would be so concerned about the "disenfranchised" from Florida and Michigan?

I think it's time we stop the Clinton nonsense once and for all by voting for Obama.

Please, no more Clintons.

Steph from PA - GO Hillary 08   March 12th, 2008 11:42 am ET

You know, I just do not understand Sen. Obama… on one hand he says he is unifying America, yet, on the other –he is willing to disenfranchise some 2 million voters in Florida and Michigan… and yet this is a leader we are all to believe in ??

That is absurd! He stated that Ferraro is dividing the Democrats yet he is the one not willing to have voters votes actually count!! So who does he think he is kidding?

In his speech in Austin Texas he stated that he would meet with isolated leaders around the world without preconditions yet, within the exact same sentence he stated “But there must be certain conditions.” So what exactly does this mean?? Does anyone out there actually LISTEN to the man? Or are the majority of Americans just so caught up in the awe of it all that they really do not care to pay attention to his actual words ??

It's absolutely absurd!

GP from VA   March 12th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Couple of thoughts

People from MI and FL – take it up with your own state government and party folks – this is not the "fault' of the candidates or the DNC. It was made very clear to your states what would happen if the primaries were moved up. If you are mad about about it – tell them about it – not the campaigns

MI and FL should not be rewarded for breaking the rules. Seat the delegates but spilt them 50/50 – that is the only fair (and cheap) solutuion

For those of you that support Clinton – please take a real hard look at this. She did not have such "concern" for voters in MI and FL until it became clear she might need them (though it will still have no major effect on the delegate count). Please – take off the blinders and be honest with yourselves. She doesnt care about disenfranchising voters – she cares about winning by any means necessary including changing the rules in mid-stream if it suits her

Finally, if you want to talk about Obama's position – please get educated. He has been clear that some resolution must be reached and again – last night on CNN said so and said he would support the DNC decision (as ALL the candidates said when this all went down last year)

Anthony Flint, MI   March 12th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Here is the problem…

The citizens of each state did nothing wrong, but are falling victim. The real people who screwed up (as we all know) are the Democratic leaders of each state who moved the primaries. I voted on primary day in Michigan, knowing full well the vote may not count.

Still, rules must be followed. The Michigan and Florida Democratic parites called the bluff of the DNC and they lost. If the DNC does not follow through this time, all regulations will be out the window.

As much as I hate to say it, they should not seat the delegates. Everyone agreed on the rules originally – you can't pull a Clinton and try to change the rules midgame. Blame the state leaders and make an example of them.

Florida Voter   March 12th, 2008 11:42 am ET

We don't need your kind of help here, Hillary…

Don't you have an Impeached husband you need to be keeping an eye on?

Millions will be spent and the only thing that will really matter is that Hillary can SPAM the Florida Super-Delegates..

Let us not forget people, as Hillary so eloquently pointed out, pledged delegates do not have to vote according to their pledge. They are under no obligation to vote as pledged and can change their minds at the convention. So, Super-Delegates and Pledge Delegates are still play.

Thanks for the reminder Hillary … any plans to pursue this strategy now that you’ve pointed it out?

Darryl, TX   March 12th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Mississippi vote was not divide on racial line it just that Hillary message was not a positive one being divisive don't win elections..

That old school politics….

CM, OH   March 12th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Maybe the parties shouldn't be responsible for holding the primaries?

It was unfair for Iowa and New Hampshire to demand that the Democrats pledge to remove themselves from campaigns in Florida and Michigan. In fact, Michigan and Florida held their elections after Iowa and New Hampshire did.

I give Michigan and Florida credit for bringing this broken system to our attention. This will not be fixed until some form of national or regional primaries are set up. Hopefully it'll happen before the 2012 primary season begins.

Channell   March 12th, 2008 11:41 am ET

This is not Hillary's or Obama's decision. The state officials screwed this thing up from the start and it is up to them to find a resolution. The people in these states should be allowed a revote but to go along with the current vote would be injustice.

Alex - New York, NY   March 12th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Counting the delegates from the Michigan and Florida primaries that already happened is ludicrous. Of course, they shouldn’t have had their seats taken away in the first place, it was a poorly managed situation on the part of the DNC. I’m not opposed to a do-over vote, should someone be able to secure the money for it, because everyone should have the right to be heard. But I defy someone to convince me that counting the Michigan and Florida votes is in any way legitimate, and to continue suggesting that it is legitimate is infuriating.

Craig   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

To Clintonfatigued, "READY TO MISLEAD FROM DAY ONE" I like it, Hillaries new Battle Cry!

MEK   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Blame your own politicians FL and MI don't punish the rest of the country because YOUR POLITICIANS chose to ignore the rules. People can't have it all their way….if you break the rules there is a price to pay. That's the way a civil society works. I don't understand the confusion…other than Hilary Clinton once again manipulating the system so it bends in her favor. She is a disgrace.

Dennis   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

She acts like a revote is so easy. Does she have any idea how much it is going to cost? Is she willing to put up the money for a revote? Everyone realizes this is the fault of the legislatures in Michigan and Florida–not the candidates and not the DNC. I don't mind a revote, but I don't want my contributions to candidates to be used to pay for it. That wasn't the purpose of my donations. Florida and Michigan need to fix their own messes.

Billary Huckabee   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Billary Huckabee is very smart. Bring up race again, why? Because in Penn, it's Pitts, Philly and White Alabama in the middle. The only way she can come close to winning in WV, Ind and KY is to make it a black/white race…None of the remaining states have a large AA population. So send Gerardine out to make racial comments and add Mississippi in to anger the white people in Penn and the surrounding states. It stops the Obama camp from asking about the Tax Returns, her lack of foreign policy experience – Which has been disproven and was getting press!!!

She was a joke in North Ireland, she gave a speech in China and has done nothing on the Armed Services Committee…the Press was on it, but now they are only talking about Geraldine.

Billary's camp gave the "wink, wink" to Canada on NAFTA, she failed on Healthcare for her husband and she is all mixed up in New York Gov. Spitlzer's (sp) mess!!! Now bring up Florida and Mich…CNN please do some reporting and stop being played as the Clinton News Network!!! But, full employment and destroying the Dem party is far better then reporting the facts and news!!!

I know: MY COMMENTS ARE AWAITING MODERATION!!!

aliou   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Clintons a bunch of spoiiiiled braaaats.

Bob Stephens   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

I wonder why Hillary agreed that the votes in Florida shouldn't count, when this issue first came out, and now she changes her mind. Let's see, didn't she do the same thing on the Iraq War and NAFTA… Is she confused all the time, or trying to emulate Weather Vane McCain and his constant switching of positions.

Greg   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Now that it has become apparent that she lost Texas, she should bow out of the race.

As was widely reported yesterday, Obama's win in the TX caucuses put him over the top and he came out with more pledged delegates than Hillary. That is a win by anyone's standards, particularly when you take into consideration that she had double digit leads in TX 2 weeks before the voting.

Given that many said she needed to win TX (and win it handedly) to stay in the race, she should now step down and let the party unite around Obama's candidacy.

Anything to the contrary by Team Clinton will make it all the more likely that another Republican will be living in the White House come January.

Derek - NY, NY   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

I thought everyone was ready for change? I mean every one talked about changing the political landscape and getting rid of all of the old names. Yet here we are on the cusp of nominating this walking dish rag Hillary Clinton. I'm starting to think that people do want change….. as long as its white.

Patty Atlanta GA   March 12th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Pathetic

manny t   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

I think that there votes should not count. First of all Either of them clinton or obama campained in either state. Obama's name wss not on the ballet in Michigan and you guys think thats fair. Then Michigan and Flordia are saying that if there votes are not counted they are going to put McCaine into office is Obama runs against him. How stupid can they get. I whould think the Flordia and Michigan should not be aloud to vote in November either this is crazy you guys should be happy that they are trying to work this out if it was me I would force to strip those delegates and to stop a broken convention make all superdelegates vote for obama and end this now so we can get read for mccaine. Clintion is not worthy of the white house or the presidentcy. If she wins it, her presidentcy will make Bush one of Americans greates presidents and Bill and Hillary the worst. Go on Obama attack her commants with all u can USA is with u. Obama 08.

changing times   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

I'm so mad at Clinton and her campaign right now I would do just the opposite of anything she asks.

Seat the delegates why don't you and just split them down the middle 50-50 and see where that gets her.

She's beyond pathetic and ridiculous. She losing all credibility with her ill run campaign.

aliou   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

clinton against the nation:

Your vote in all states shouldn't count because the clinton machinery made that calculation months ago to break party rules and make florida and michigan count no matter what.

Should florida decide this election, we all lose. we the people who obeyed the rule, all those who voted in any other state that followed the rules. and even those in florida and michigan who did'n't vote because it was supposed to an exercise in futility.

You all lose, clintons win. give bill a second chance in the oval office with plenty of time on his hands.

Tanaya   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Rules are rules! MI and FL knew what they were doing. If the voters want to be upset then they should be upset at their elected officials! And let me ask why was Clintion not championing for the rights of these voters when the DNC made their decision? Simple, she thought it wouldn't matter, she thought she had won the nomination before anyone even cast a ballot. SHE ignored the small states, blew her money too fast and show every other sign of arrogance. Now she's in the corner. She wasn't expecting to get the wind knocked out of her. So she has manipulated the situation to make herself out to be some sort of champion for the little guy. Well in my opinion she has acted like a fool and made a lot of wrong choices. I do not want a president who has run such a broken campaign. I have supported Obama since '04. However, I thought a Obama/Clinton ticket in either direction would be a dream. She wasn't ever my candidate, but I admired her and never thought she would be a bad choice. However, watching thisover the past few months I have come to the realization that she was so full of herself and the way her campaign has changed makes me see that she is in it not for the people but for her own ambition. Her actions have left a bitter taste in my mouth and I will never be able to vote for her. She is a shining example of the kind of politics I don't want in this country any more. I WANT CHANGE! YES WE CAN!

Anna, IL   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

If anyone has disenfranchised voters, it's Hillary Clinton. Her divisive and destructive campaign tactics, and her campaign's racist comments are destroying the party. She will further destroy the country if she's elected.

Disregard for rules have been the way Clintons have conducted themselves over the years. I am all for do-over, but to say this after the fact is disgusting. Why did she not raise these questions when she agreed to the DNC rules in the first place?

Yes, let's have a do-over and be done with it. She'll still be behind. By the way, people are coming out in droves for Obama, not Clinton. Get the facts straight Hillary.

Jennifer   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

This is the DNC's mess, so the DNC should clean this up, and i'm pretty sure that is what they are trying to do. Nobody in MI or FL should feel like their vote doesn't count; it's undemocratic and unamerican.

MELMARIE   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Hillary is so phony!!! If she cared about the voters back then she would not have agreed to count them out. She was just so full of herself that she thought she didn't need them. You guys need to wake up!!! Hillary is for Hillary.

Obama '08

Comment disappeared   March 12th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Every voter should be allowed to have his or her vote count. Whether Hilliary wins or not in a re-vote is not the point. It is wrong to call Hillary a cheater – those votes for her came in fair and square. It was wrong for the DNC to punish Florida and Michigan in that way in the first place. What was the logic behind that anyway?

Hillary voters will never vote for Obama anyway – he is just to squeeky clean for the rest of us – NOT

ernie   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

i find it ashame that people who dont want to revote and keeps saying that there should not be revote becuase of some rules are forget the this happen to rep to but they didnt strip away there delagtes , i find it ashame that we as nation caint back everyone that we all have the right to vote and have our voted not counted everyone that says other wise should be ashame of them selves

Bacusla   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

RULES are RULES! And must apply across the board. Unless the Clinton camp is suggesting here that the rules do not apply – when the DNC had clearly stated that FL & MI will be penalized for altering their calender. Chairman Dean has handled this one fairly – no amount of bullying & posturing will make him waver. We will continue to be so governed by the DNC's rules. Thank you.

Go Obama   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

It is disengenuous to presuppose that Florida and Michigan voters somehow feel disenfranchised. We voted, what more do you want? Michigan moved their primary date forward ahead going against DNC rules. This blame falls on Jennifer Granholm – a noted Hillary Clinton supporter.

Michael   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Can you imagine just four years of this strident third rate high school debater on our televisions? God help us all. Senator Obama, I'm not going to vote for you, and I probably disagree with 95 % of what you say, but you really must call this duplicitous woman who is ruining public discourse for years to come. I am white, and I'm a conservative. I can see that you strive everyday to remain a gentleman. But she has gone too far. Please demand that she put up her daily White Houe schedule and her tax returns. I beg you.

kris   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! Hillary

Kelavis   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Honestly, would Hillary be trying to seat them, as is, if Barack had won both? Not a chance, she has to seat these as is because it is her only chance of leading in delegates come convention time. The lack of fairness in what she proposes is unbelievable and the media won't touch the issue. Come on CNN, keep it real. Can someone, anyone on CNN just say that please? Maybe Faux(Fox) News is covering this…….

J.W   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

GORE – EDWARDS – ROBRTSON please come out and stop this madness, Hillary has suggested that if she is not the nominee, Americans would do better to elect John McCain for president.

Whom would without a doubt, maintain the status of the war, make tax cuts permanent, hurt the enviornment, keep healthcare cost out of reach, throw out diplomacy, maintain division in congress, and I hate to say what it would do to the supreme court.

Its time to show leadership, and talk with the Clintons, correct the course of the political campaign before it does more damage to the party, forces Americans to deal with another 4-8 years of Bush policy.

Angie, Charlotte NC   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Michael – Have you been in a coma for a year?! Everybody BUT YOU has known that fact since the beginning of the campaign… He has never stated otherwise, BUT he is on the record SEVERAL TIMES before the vote was done basically begging that the country not go to war and asking our representatives who do have a vote to no. He received a lot of flack for going against the grain.

mary   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

The Democratic Party can help Hilliary win this election but the party as we know it will be gone. Hilliary knew what she was doing when she left her name on the ballet. She had name recognition and this was a ploy, just in case she needed them. Whatever happens in this election, I will not support Hillary. For the first time in my life, I may have to vote for someone other than a democrat.

NH   March 12th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Seems that everyone wants to change the rules of the game. Now we have Porta Rico that wants to go from a caucus to a primary. Aren't they petitioning the DNC so they can do this? Wonder why? Is it possible that one candidate does better in a caucus then a primary so that she can close the gap on the number of delegates that he has.

Gil - California   March 12th, 2008 11:37 am ET

PHONY HILLARY! You said you would follow the DNC rules prior to the IOWA competition. As soon as it was over and you "won" these two states, it is now important? You only care about these two contests because you "won" them. The only option is a do-over and that isn't a great option. Florida, Michagan, the DNC is responsibile for this mess equally. You and Barack agreed to follow the DNC on this so shut up and sit down.

Paul Naranjo   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

HILLARY 08

Florida and Michigan will say loud and clear that they want you to be Our President in this election.
The FLA votes should be counted just as they are, while Michigan could have a new primary. Now Obama is afraid, cause he knows this will in fact put an end to his so called" momentums" There is not such thing 'cause no one will attain the desired number of delegates without FLA and Michigan.
Howard Dean, are your rules stronger than the voice of 2.5 million voters who actually belong to your party? Btwy, have you realized that FLA's primaries's date was moved by the Republicans and not so by the Democrats. Then, why are you punishing your own party members, Shame on you if you disenfranchise the voice of your voters. Then no candidate should appear in the Democratic ballot for the general election if the voice of your party is not important to you.

HILLARY – Commander in Chief of the United States of America.

kazzmedia   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Hillary is responsible for this whole mess by not having the courtesy to follow the rules in the first place – therefore SHE has "disenfranchised" the voters. Hillary's campaign tactics are not only damaging to her party, but an insult to our country's voting process.

If she had Obama's lead right now, she would be totally opposed to including these two states. Just like her husband, she will do whatever it takes to gain power while pretending that she cares about "the people".

If we let her get away with this manipulation, then we get what we deserve.

Gini   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Florida and Michigan must sit this primary season out. Sorry Clinton fans, the rules are rules. True, Obama took his name off the ballot in Michigan. He did this out of respect for an agreement that was reached. Clinton respects nothing, not even herself.

pc   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Hillary is pathetic! She only wants those votes counted because she was the only one on the ballot. WHEN WILL THE CLINTONS LEARN TO FOLLOW THE RULES EVEN WHEN IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THEM! Hillary, you are a disgrace to the Democratic Party! You and Bill have polarized the Democratic Party and now your money-making Geraldine F has jumped on the bandwagon. Barak Obama is a man of integrity! You are the only one running a negative campaign. Oh well, I guess you really can't take spots of a leper!

stephanie   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Do any Obama supporters know the issues? His healthcare plan is fundamentally flawed. It does not cover everyone. Even John Edwards attacked it during debates. Read his website and you will see. But if you are looking to a candidate that has detailed answers to to solve our problems, then it would be Clinton. She has called for a moratorium on the mortgage crisis, her healthcare plan covers everyone, and she is more knowledgeable about foreign affairs–you could see that from the debates. Unfortunately, the media refuse to focus on issues and therefore, Clinton is not the frontrunner.

LOOK AT THE ISSUES!!!

Jeremy   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

"The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored" ?

Who is she kidding? How were they fair when Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan?

Besides this, her conflicting claims that Obama would be a great VP and then saying McCain is better qualified for President, demonstrate again she will do anything, even if it hurts the Democratic party.

Until this past week I didn't care between the two but Hillary has clearly demonstrated how selfish she is and that she'll do anything to win the nomination, whether its fair or not.

My support for Hillary is gone. She is nothing but a dishonest, selfish politician.

JS   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

My god, what a mess. I think the reality is, what the people want and think matters very little right now. The idiots that represent those states put them into this mess and will continue to cause even more problems. What I want to know is why the people feel the need to blame the candidates for this. Blame your state representatives and remember this mess when you go to vote for them to keep them or remove them from office. For all the world to see, Clinton bends the rules daily, and Obama plays by the rules. If we learn nothing more from this mess learn that much.

Angela London   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Most Americans are soooooo stupid. An unknown charismatic man comes out talking about change blah blah blah and you think he is the saviour of the world. But then again you voted for Bush – TWICE so why should we be surprised if they vote in smooth talking Obama.

simple thought ?   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Florida and Michigan don't count to the dnc?

i vote republican.

one country, undivided, the UNITED STATES of America…..

i will leave this party if were not inclusive of everyone in every state…….

dnc. solve the problem. a revote after June 7th

both campaigns pitch in the cost.

both campaigns campaign there in advance of that projected date…

plenty of time.

aliou   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

breaking the rules have never been so sweet as when a clinton sets out to defy a nation.

Joe   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Why do so many people blame Obama for their alleged "disenfranchisement" at the hands of the DNC? Do you all remember that Clinton wrote a letter to NH before their primary saying that she would never recognize the votes of Michigan and Florida because the NH primary – the first in the country – was valuable and important as such?

If you Michigan and Flordia people want to blame anyone for your non-votes, blame the DNC. Or Clinton. Clinton's campaign manager sat on the committee that decided to impose the ban on seating your delegates. She doesn't seem to mention that much, surprisingly.

sensible Cape Coral FL   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Has anyone questioned the role that the Florida Legislature (Republican) played in the decision to move up the Democratic Primary?

Brett   March 12th, 2008 11:36 am ET

I think it's great that Hillary is fighting for "ALL" Americans rather than Obama, who obviously, seems to have a target market (just analyze the exit polls of those states that already voted).

Obama should be man enough — or, I should say, David Axelrod should "TELL" his boss to "ACT" man enough (after all, Obama is his pet) — and stand up and CLEARLY (without the ahmms and constant pauses that he is so good at using when speaking) say that Michigan and Florida should be included in the primary.

We need a leader who knows how to speak, not one that takes 5 minutes to complete a short sentence.

Chris D.   March 12th, 2008 11:35 am ET

First, I love how the Clinton camp touts how they are "playing by the rules" when they advocate that the Superdelegates should not hesitate to override the people's votes from the primary, and then advocate seating Michigan and Florida according to the votes which were disqualified by the DNC long before the votes were cast.

Second, would Obama get the "undecided" votes in Michigan if it were seated as is? I suppose the Clinton camp would like to give a percentage of those to John Edwards. Anyway, I hope they do a re-vote. I think Obama would win in Michigan if he were on the ballot.

aliou   March 12th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Rules for a clinton? You need a ken starr to tell them. Even then, there is still not rule. Lobbyists and a book deal will pay for all expenses and clinton will florish on. She will destroy the party once more, but she will keep on: Unless we, the people stop her.

NO clinton, no revote, no sitting illegal delegates, no. no. no.

Ron   March 12th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Also all of you Hillary supporters in other states…Would you take time out of your busy life to go vote in a primary that you have been told WON"T COUNT??? Only if you have spare time. I did not vote for that reason and I am sure 20-30% of the Michigan electorate did the same thing..Which means the tallies in either state are not a real reflection of what a real Primary may have been.

Rebecca   March 12th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Hillary need Michigan and Florida to have a chance. Even if Hillary gets 70% of Michigan and Florida today Obama still is in first place. Obama is winning by almost 700,000 popular votes. Give it up Clinton, you are truly desperate.

Kathie, in California   March 12th, 2008 11:35 am ET

Rules??? Please. Everyone knows that when the rules don't work in your favor they should be changed. Hillary was perfectly content to disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan when she thought she would easily wrap this thing up by Super Tuesday. Now…not so much.

4Real SC   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I think Hillary is just doing this so she can get more votes. What we should caution Hillary is that, if there is a do over she may not win becuase of her attitude and how she is using double standards in this election. Everything is all about what Hillary wants not the American People. If those two state can't follow the rules then I don't think they should be counted because a lot of people didn't vote because they were told it didn't count, so if I was in those two states I wouldn't have wasted my time either. Hillary stop trying to reevent the wheel. You are not a strong Commander in Chief so now my vote belongs to Obama.

Jay   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Ok for the people saying "Hillary is the only one sticking up for the people of MI and FL" why do you think that is??? CAUSE SHE IS LOOSING! And I really doubt she would take MI anyway. Heres an idea so everyone can stop whining, split the delegates 50/50 of those states. BAM! there ya go. Hillary will still be behind. I am from MI. You really wanna show outrage this lets get rid of these state government officials who knew what the DNC rules were but decided to ignore them. Granholm needs to go anyway. Back to Canada where she belongs!

Rosalind Kaplan   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Every American should be allowed to vote. the voters did not decide when to hold the primary. If Obama on the ballot the Demorcrates will lose again.Experience is the most important thing.

Seam, Florida   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Stop the madness! Florida and Michigan broke the rules, simple as that.

Blame the stupid governors, legislators, and other elected officials of those states for this nonsense.

I recommend people start paying attention to the decisions being made by their government. It's nobody's fault but theirs.

Get a clue!

Craig   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

Opportunistic bottom-feeder describes both Clintons. Please go away Hillary, you are exactly what this country dosent need.

Trev   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

So, we have not reached the point where Obama supporters would rather have millions of votes uncounted than risk losing an election.

I am sick of the "rules" argument. Do people even know how to enforce a rule? One cannot enforce a rule without an idea of who broke the rule. In this case, we know for sure that the voters in FL and MI did not break the rule!

Obama will do anything to win!

Thomas K. Marple   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I don't really mind if they do a totally new primary following their traditional procedures, but to seat the delegates from the early primary votes held in violation of DNC rules would be unfair. If the voters are going to have the right to choose, the candidates must have the right to present themselves. The Democratic Party officials in both Florida and Michigan new of the consequences when they held the votes early (thumbing their noses at the DNC). I guess this is just one more effort by the Democrats to self destruct the party.

Lee Chang   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

GO HILLARY GO. The DNC made stupid rules – and because of the stupid rules, Obama is nominated and lose the election in November – then Howard Dean should take responsibility – and I would saw, Americans who voted for Obama in the primary equally deserves it.

Mark   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

I think the Florida delegates are to be counted as is. Everybody was on the ballot and nobody campaigned. The Michigan primary should be redone.

Deb   March 12th, 2008 11:34 am ET

There will be no peace until the Michigan and Florida democrats re- vote. This vote should be a mail-in ballot. It's fair and it's cheaper. The cost should be split between the candidates and the states involved.

Obama is dragging his feet on this because he knows Hillary has basically won both states. He ran an ad in the Florida area, he got people to vote uncommitted in Michigan but HC still won. He had the opportunity to put his name on the Michigan ballot and he didn't. Why? Because he knew he wouldn't win. Discounting Florida and Michigan is strategic on Obama's part. Makes you wonder who came up with this "punishment" for Michigan and Florida.

Kips   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

Bending the rules to favor you or to yield fruits for your power greed is not what America wants.We want president who make right judgement on day one….who respect the law on day one. You are a losser.go home Billary.We need no more divisive politics.You are Mcain / Bush project II. Same old politics of talk, cry, manipulate and maginalize.
Obama 08

El Duende, Laguan Beach Calif.   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

Obama camp needs to ignore Maggie's plea for Florida…rules are rules.

Rick B.   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

When are we going to have individual play by the rules? Too many people believe that rules are meant to be broken.
Too many people think that if I a m not winning then we need to change the rules or the method of evaluating the results. Too many "Spin Doctors" and not enough high standards and ethics.

Sharon, Raleigh NC   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

I hope that both Florida and Michigan will count. The only fair way to do so is to allow voters to vote again and allow both candidates to campaign.

After this election process is over and we have a new President I would certainly hope that the DNC will look at how they pick their candidates. This system needs to be tweaked. I am sick of Iowa being such a small state playing a big role in the election process. The outdated caucuses system needs to go. SUPERDELEGATES should not pick our candidate.

Daniel   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

There she goes again, she didn't get it yet.. Please someone is anybody could tell her that a trial is coming for her , husband, daughter, all the high level campain team… common guys don't be stupid, peoples have enough of there crap….Please John endorse Obama.. that urge. Nail her….

kim miles   March 12th, 2008 11:33 am ET

i was leaning toward clinton. however because she dosnt realise ferraros remarks about obama are in fact true i am starting to wonder if she is not one of the good old boys we have in office now. get real who is obama? if not for the black vote he would be done. we the democrats are going to give mccain the whithouse if obama is the choice. can you say antichrist?

Kevin   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

If the Clinton campaign had come out and said that what happened in Florida and Michigan was unfair – to voters (many of whom didn't vote), to the Democratic party (we as a group look like fools and risk losing the GE to McCain) and to the other states who followed the rules, then I would be supporting her.

However, she's trying to hoodwink us by claiming that what happened in Michigan and Florida were "fair and honest" primary elections. This is so far from the truth, I'm just shocked she'd say it (well, not that shocked) but more shocked a lot of you believe it.

I'm for a solution that brings back two states who are as equally as important as Mississippi and Kansas and Washington and should be part of our movement to fix the problems of our country. However, this has to be a fair solution for voters and both candidates. Obama supports this, does Clinton?

Marc in DeKalb, IL   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

Including the farcical FL/MI election results (with Obama off the ballot and improper procedures in both states) would be critically damaging to the Democrats both NOW and significantly more in the future (goodbye primary rules, since two states would've proved that the rules don't matter) …

Should the "seating of the delegates" be planned to occur, it should be done so only through a revote due to the lack of Obama on the Michigan ballot and the absolute lack of campaigning in Florida (I'll just pretend that there was no faux campaigning, since I don't have sufficient evidence of it).

… and unfortunately for Hillary, she would lose Michigan (and she would lose it hard), though Florida would likely carry just as hard (larger elderly population, high latino concentration)… so the result?

Negligible. It'd be 20 million dollars less for the DNC to fight against McCain with… it'd be another trauma for the party to deal with… it'd be another weapon for to be used in a campaign against the Democratic nominee.

… but… if there was a plan to seat the illegal delegates of FL/MI … that's the best you can hope for. Seating them as is, with the skewed results in Michigan due to Obama being off the ballot, and the results in Florida… would be far worse and wouldn't actually accomplish what both candidates claim to want… that the voters' voices be heard.

Obama seems to prefer to remain quiet.
Clinton seems to prefer that the voices only be heard if they are calling her name (that is… even though the elections were unfair, she wants the results included "as is" because the illegal result favors her)

V. Sheldon   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

HRC cares nothing for the Democratic Party- simply for her own self glorification. She will do anything for it. If she is the Democratic nominee i will not vote in this election- for the first time since i was able to vote in 1976.

James   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

Chris, newsflash HILLARY LOST THE NOMINATION PROCESS. Even it these votes are counted as is (which is an absurd stance), she can't win.

Michael, Cleveland   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

Ronald Martin whom I respect put a very stupid opinion post today: FL, MI, you had you chance. Democrats goal is to win in November. If FL and MI are not seated on the convention, Dems can say good buy to these plans and just go home without choosing a nominee who will loose anyway. It's that simple. Party rules are not the Constitution or law, they are what they are: rules to help streamline the process of selecting a nominee. Well, as we can see, these rules are imcoherent, complicated, stupid and hurting the party – so they need to be changed. FL and MI needs to be seated on the convention, no matter what rulees says. Let's be practical. Obama won't allow allocation based on january elecetions and Clinton will block caucuses or splitting 50/50. So the revote has to be done, one way or another. And then logistic starts to play. Nobody says that mail-in primary is the best oprion in FL (it won't work in MI since they don't have party registration, but MI primaries would be cheaper), it's just the only option left under the circumstances. And, Howard Dean needs to be removed as the person whose stubborness put us into this situation: it was his job to defuse it months ago.

writer28   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

I live in Michigan and voted in the primary in January. I voted 'uncommitted' and crazy as it may seem, I feel my vote counted. If I hadn't felt that way in January, I wouldn't have voted. I don't feel disenfranchised and would, frankly, like the candidates (especially Sen. Clinton) to stop speaking FOR me.

This superdelegate thing has become drama for the sake of drama and I'm tired of it. This whole thing is easy to solve: The states that have already voted–the superdelegates should get behind Sen. Obama, because he's the front-runner and everyone knows that Sen. Clinton can't catch up delegate-wise. The states that haven't voted, the superdelegates should wait for the votes to be counted. Chances are Sen. Obama will win the majority of the six states–plus Guam and PR. Then the superdelegates of those states should get behind Sen. Obama. It's clear to me that they hesitate because they don't want to back Sen. Obama and now they're stuck and don't know what to do. As people have said if the superdelegates don't vote for the front-runner, there will be millions of voters who will be ignored.

As for the Florida and Michigan delegates, I don't feel that the delegates should be given to either candidate because they agreed not to be on the ballot. Only Sen. Obama did the right thing and kept his word to keep his name off the ballot. If everyone insists on doing this vote over, however, they could just split the delegates 50/50 and be done with it. No voting, no financial hit to Florida or Michigan.

Let's get this over with. It's obvious that Sen. Clinton won't quit. If the superdelegates backed Sen. Obama, she'd have no choice but to back out.

Paul   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

I would say I don't have any respect left for her, yet she somehow manages to get me to respect her less. And I used to think she would make a good president.

Amy   March 12th, 2008 11:32 am ET

This Floridian and many of my friends will vote for Obama. We did not vote before because we were told it wouldn't count. Give us a redo, Obama supporters didn't waste their time voting because we knew the rules. He will get support here!!!

George, Dallas, Texas   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

Democrats can either have President Obama or President McCain. If they want a Democratic President, they should support Obama and go to the polls to vote for him in droves in the remaining contests. If they don’t do so, Hilary Clinton will divide the party and McCain will win in the general election. Ask Sen. Nelson and other Clinton surrogates if they want Democratic President Obama or Republican President McCain. Senator Nelson is working feverishly to deliver Florida to Hilary Clinton as Jeff Bush delivered to his brother in 2000. Please tell Sen. Nelson that this is a new day. God will not allow them to steal this nomination from Sen. Obama. In OBAMA we TRUST! If they want quick, equitable and fair resolution for this mess, SPLIT the delegates equally among Obama and Clinton.

Howard   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

Do the math folks. The only way Clinton can win the lion's share of delegates than Obama from Michigan and Florida, is to win by a margin of 75-25. There is no way he loses by a margin like that; even if white males, and older whites do not like him. This is just an attempt to try and close the gap on the popular vote. That is the only way Clinton can appeal to the undecided delegates at the convention in August.

TJ WILLIAMS, Los Angeles, CA   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

This woman has the nerve of a blind gunfighter. She must be out of her g**dam mind if she thinks she can get away with cheating…again!
Rules are rules. if she's so concerned about disenfranchising voters why isn't she calling for a ful re-vote??? So many people did not go out and vote because they were told it didn't count. She really couldn't care less about "voter's rights". She cares about Hillary winning…period. If Howard Dean seats the Florida & Michigan delegates …as is…expect a huge lawsuit. I personally think they should have to sit this out …and maybe in four years they can have their primary first. Begin revolving the states. But fot THIS election they broke the rules and they must deal with the consequences. If they have a full re-vote and the Hillary Monster wins…so be it!
But is she steals this nomination…I promise you she'll NEVER see the Whitehouse because the Black vote will completely disappear.

Barack Obama for President!
Integrity, Intelligence, Honesty…yeah, I can vote for that!

Michael   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

I live in a state that is at the tail end of this whole process. It stinks that my voice can't be heard until the end, but I am stuck with it. The fact that FL and MI leaders chose to violate the rules that had been established (whether you agree with them or not) needs to have some consequence otherwise the process of picking leaders to run for president is completely undermined. I am against a revote on principle. A revote does not punish the states for violating the rules, it actually rewards them and puts them back in driver's seat to unduly influence the process. I think the Republicans came up with a better solution when they punished FL and MI by only allowing half the delegates to be counted. If the Democrats followed a similar procedure then FL and MI would have some representation, but there would also be some punishment for breaking rules. Under a 50% scenario, FL would have 105 delegates and MI 78.

voiceless   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

I do not see the problem with letting Michigan and Florida re-vote.
They should have been allowed to vote in the first place.

While some states technically vote twice your worried if two states should even get a voice?!

We are tired of other states telling us who we are going to vote for. We wanted change! the truth is nobody cares that michigan has the highest foreclosure rate, that our economy is the worse in the nation.

The nation talks about the recession well we have been in it for a while and nobody cared..Now you are all apart of it too.

Welcome aboard! All of these candidates are so far removed from real life that this may be the first time in my life that I will not vote!

All of them will say what they need too, will play whatever card they need too .

I think we should all ask our current president & senators and reps to just turn the united states over to the highest bidder….

Do I hear 2bits?

Dan-Michigan   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

I am a Michigan voter. I voted uncommitted, yet I do not feel disenfranchised. Hillary is presupposing that I am disenfranchised, which is simply misleading. I and a lot of other Michigan voters, with whom I have spoken, think that this bias is another Clinton tactic that is not going to make her look well in the end. I would rather watch to see how the DNC adapts to this new and potentially recurring problem that they have on their hands.

Lilia, from PA   March 12th, 2008 11:31 am ET

There you go again Hillary with your double standard.

I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE WAR BUT I WAS AUTHORIZING THE USE OF FORCE?????

Ah!! Ah!!! and people say she is smart? Is it smart or is it Dumb???
Hillary supporters, please help!!!

I VOTED TO PENALIZE THE STATES THAT MOVE THEIR PRIMARY'S DATE, BUT I WANT THEIR VOTE TO BE COUNTED ????
Ah!!Umh!!!

So what is a penalty??? Only HILLARY'S dictionary can explain this!!

Smart or dumb or double standard. You Decide!!!

Darryl, TX4OBAMA   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

Did Hillary know that she actually lost in Texas, Obama went away more delegates. the last time I counted the one with the most delegates is the winner. The illegals that she had to case the vote in the south did not come back to cacus for her they did understand english.

I hope no one takes this as being racist I am just stating the important of Mexican to learn English.

Hillary Clinton is very divisive and smart don't count her out. Bill Clinton is buying his time the sexual affairs still shadows in her mind.

Florida and Michigan will surprise Hillary she really don't want to redue Michigan because Obama is leading in the polls there.

As for Florida Hillary will take it 53 to 46.5 majority now say they will support Obama.

Sean   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

Pat M: If your argument is that Hillary made her choice and should live with it, and Obama made his choice and should live with it, then let's extend that. Florida made it's choice and should live with it. Michigan made it's choice and should live with it! You can't have it both ways.

Mad in Texas   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

You are right Hillary, win, lose or draw the Florida and Michigan delegates need to be seated. The DNC need to change their rules bad. NO MORE CACUSES. The Cacuses only benefit a few that can push you out of the way to get in line. Like they do at football games then they stand around underneath the stands so you can't get to the concession stand or bathrooms. Because they have no sense of courtest or morals. I am personally tired of their four letter undoubtedly the height of their language. You know who I'm talking about. If this offends you well you are who I'm talking about. All people need to vote and have their votes counted. All state's delegates need to go to one candidate. That is why electorial votes count first in the Main National Presenditial Election. These votes go for that State's choice for President. GET REAL PEOPLE OBAMA WOULD HAVE ALREADY CONCEDED if this race had been run on a fair and impartial election. DNC needs to rid itself of the KENNEDYS, DEAN, and PELUSI. These people are idiots. OBAMA needs to get ready for his downward fall. He has won his last state. HILLARY 08

NIC   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

And stop saying that the DNC had rules that cant be amended, Howard Dean right now said that he will send it back to MI and FL to figure out and come back to him with fair compliance results. Thats where we stand on this. But the Demcratic Officials in FL have some how become less democratic. You people are ridiculious on how you interpret and precieve this dilemma. Count the votes or have a revote. As long as it compliance to the DNC, they will take it. It's not a black or white, all or nothing approach. That's a Republican approach, NOT a Democratic approach.
We want plain and simple Democratic ideology. Punish the state and local officials that approved the move up date. And let the voters speak and be heard, count their votes, whether it's a revote or the exsisting one. Be done with this already, its not hard to do, the longer this goes on, the worse it will get. Shame on the FL state and local Democrats and Republican Officials for not trying to find a solution to a problem they created, NOT THE VOTERS.

ClintonSTRONG!!   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

Obama is SCARED!!

He knows Michigan and Florida (Latinos) won't vote for him..

This should put us right back in the race with Penn coming our way also…
Obama will lose the general election!

Latinos will not vote for him!!

Kim   March 12th, 2008 11:30 am ET

VOTERS of MICHIGAN did not make or break these rules, and everyone who is pulling this "that was the rules" crap is either an idiot, or a Republican.

Democracy   March 12th, 2008 11:29 am ET

Where did Obama supporters have left their brain!!! Its not the fault of People of FL and MI that the primary was moved up. Obama supporters are afraid of re-vote because they know for sure that Hilary will be nominee if the voices of FL and MI are heard. Obama supporters are selfish and they are thinking about themselves and Obama being the nominee. They are not putting themselves in their shoe. They are selfish and they don't care in anyway about the people of FL and MI. Now I have a doubt whether the Obama supporters are really democartic?? If they are then they have to care about the people of FL and MI forget about the party leaders as what they did. We are in a democratic country. voices of FL and MI should be heard. There should be a do-over atleast in MI and FL should go to Hilary

sam   March 12th, 2008 11:29 am ET

Reading some of the comments that have been written about Florida and Michigan, I cannot understand the Americans, who so proudly believe in DEMOCRACY, and propagate its virtues all over the world, sometimes with the loss of their own lives, deny their fellow citizens, the right to make their choice, in such an important issue.

Michael   March 12th, 2008 11:29 am ET

If hillary quits the party so will I! It seems like this may be the best idea yet, have us create a new party thre neo-Democrats, which is basically mad eup of all the orginal Democrats, and run as such in the General election and win versus McCain and Obama. Don't forget this is also a possiblity even if she loses the Democrat nomination.

Michael, Cleveland   March 12th, 2008 11:29 am ET

Ronald Martin whom I respect put a very stupid opinion post today: FL, MI, you had you chance. Democrats goal is to win in November. If FL and MI are not seated on the convention, Dems can say good buy to these plans and just go home without choosing a nominee who will loos anyway. It's that simple. Party rules are not the Cosntitution or law, they are what they are: rules to help streamline the process of selecting nominee. Well we can see, that these rules are imcoherent, complicated, stupid and hurting the party – so they need to be changed. FL and MI needs to be seated on the convention, it's that simple. Obama won't allow allocation based on january elecetions and Clinton will block caucuses or splitting 50/50. So the revote has to be done, one way or another. And then logistic starts to play. Nobody says that mail-in primary is the best oprion in FL (it won't work in MI since they don't have party registration, but MI primaries would be cheaper), it's just the only option left under the circumstances. And, Howard Dean needs to be removed as the person whose stubborness put us into this situation: it was his job to ddefue it months ago.

WhiteKraut   March 12th, 2008 11:29 am ET

Hillary would do anything to get a vote. The difference between Obama and Hillary is that he campaigns in every state. Not like this arrogant HRC who believes that only the big states count. Do you honestly believe that HRC would care about Florida and Michigan if she would be the front runner? I would be really upset if I would be a resident of either state and know that my vote doesn’t count. But I would not make it an agenda between the candidates; who was responsible for that mess? Start by your local government and then I would vent my anger at the DNC. Where was the outrage when it was first announced? That’s one reason why our society is where it is today. Everybody makes rules, just to break them and nobody is being held responsible for their actions. Rules and laws only work if you enforce them, Parenting 101. But let’s break some rules and throw them some candy to make for it. Wow what a concept.

minority   March 12th, 2008 11:28 am ET

Hillary mentioned her wish that votes of Florida and Michigan will count even at that time she was ahead of the race. Some crooked minds were thinking she wants it to happen only because she is now behind in delegates. Those people are the negatives, those people are the one divisive and I bet they favor the candidate who give them speeches of what they want to hear and then they jump for joy and chant yes we can, yes we can and you could, yes make this country so poor you need a mark on your forehead to get basic necessities. We need prayers for America right now, only prayers can change the path america is taking right now, from the war to the leading candidate.. prayers can change the course and bring us back to God-fearing, prosperous America. If only supporters of HIllary will include prayers as their support.. she will be the next president of the United States. We acknowledge the separation of Religion and Government so Hillary will do the campaigning, we supporters will do the praying.

Sue, NY   March 12th, 2008 11:27 am ET

It is laughable as to how much you seem to care about Fla. and Mich now instead of standing up for them at the time that the rule was being made. Everyone is outraged now…where were you last year when this rule was "decided". If Hillary Clinton wasn't behind you would not be hearing from her. This campaign is becoming tremendously damaging. We have 3 candidates….and we have 3 things to take into consideration when voting …1) qualification…all are qualified…2nd) ideology…2 liberal democrats, 1 moderate republican,…and 3) integrity….in my opinion intregrity trumps ideology when there is a moderate republican vs. conservative republican. Therefore, if Hillary Clinton by rare chance is the nominee I will vote intregrity and vote Mc.Cain. When this race began I truly believed I could vote for which ever democrat won the nomination. The way she has run her campaign, I no longer can. She has shown that she will do anything to get to be president and anyone in her way had better watch out. This is very unfortunate, for women but more importantly for the country because a president has to have intregrity and represent the whole country…she is no longer doing this.
I hope the super delagates step in now before it's too late.

Glenda Giles   March 12th, 2008 11:27 am ET

Ms. Ferraro is absolutely right and I commend her for speaking out! She's right; if a black person spoke out against Hillary (and has by-the way), they are given all of the media attention and applauded for their remarks. She's also right when she says if you say anything against Obama, that person is called a racist. It's not only Obama; if anything negative is said about a black, that person's a racist..how absurd! It's about time the white person speaks their mind and doesn't back down from it. The white's that are voting for Obama is caught up in the fantasy and hoopla. Heaven help us if he's the elected candidate.
I will vote Republican for the first time in my life!

Rebecca   March 12th, 2008 11:27 am ET

I'm for a redo here in Michigan because Obama will do very well here. Wait until the polls come out. Clinton will start backing away, just wait and see. She doesn't care about the people of Michigan and Florida, she only cares about the current polls showing she has an advantage. If these polls changes she will be forced to quit.

Michigan for Obama!!

A. Harrison   March 12th, 2008 11:27 am ET

Dusacre:

Hillary Won Florida FAIRLY, period. LEt's seat those Delegates and stop picking and choosing who can vote. Don't seat the delegates and the Republicans have won Florida and Michigan.

Silly Argument Shillary……..: Please get a grip. Georgia, Virginia, and Washington big states? Try again.

The Obama campaign is working overtime to the tune of the same old politics we supposedly need a change from.

Hillary 2008!

Ron   March 12th, 2008 11:27 am ET

If Michigan and Florida is not counted regardless of the stupid policy which most people diagree with.It would be a totally unfair election and a serious discontent towards the democratic party that act worse than the republicans.Hillary should run as an Independent.Because the democratic race is a Black race

Brian   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

It is impossible for Hillary to catch Obama and she knows it. This is a vindictive power play because she believes she was entitled to the nomination. She should leave the race now!

OBAMA '08!!!

Jeff Radun   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Florida should be counted as is
All candidates appeared on the ballets and nobody campaigned in the state.
Voters went to the polls and voted for who they wanted

Michigan should be a do over.

If my above suggestion is not acceptable then
MY other option is each state Florida and Michigan do a full primary and winner takes ALL.
No dividing by who gets what % of vote.
WINNER TAKES ALl and then super deligates will not be needed

Hillary 08 Ohio   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Why should FL & MI not have their Votes counted like the other states?. I'm sure glade that I live in Ohio, and Hillary won my state Big Time!.

Ms T   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

WE ALREADY VOTED IN FLORIDA AND HILL WON!!!! THE REPUBLICAN ARE THE ONE'S WHO CHANGED THE DATE SO WHY ARE THE DEMOCRATS BEING PUNISHED. THE REPUBLICANS KNOW THEY CAN BEAT OBAMA PUT CAN'T TOUCH HILL!!!!!!
GO HILL!!!!!!!!!

Ruslyn Schultz   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

"The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored" from Hillary…..how was Michigan fair? Does Obama then win the 40% of voters that went undecided, even though we have no way to tell how many of those were for Obama and how many were for Edwards?

Bottom line here is, the only reason FL and MI are being pushed is because Hillary won both. Had Obama won MI, if his name was even on the ballot, no one would be discussing this. They'd consider it a tie between the two, the states would take their punishment, they wouldn't be seated, and we'd have a lot less drama to talk about.

What is going to happen 4 years from now also? We do a revote and legitimize MI and FL and they both have grandfathered their primaries in before Super Tuesday. Other states can do the same now because there will be no consequences as we can see from this year's election.

The only thing that disenfranches voters is changing the rules in the middle of the game. This whole drama, doing anything you can to win, is what turns people off of politics. Even if FL and MI are counted, Hillary will still be down in delegates, and we'll still have this contest decided by the Super Delegates, in the end, what will we gain? Likely it will be tens of millions of dollars to end up with the same result we would get without a revote.

Tia   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Clinton & company the voters are not stupid, get a life, STOP YOUR GAMES and get out of the race, because IT'S IS OVER.

Yola   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Florida and Michigan should be seated

tina   March 12th, 2008 11:26 am ET

By the way, I live in Florida and I don't think our vote should count. OUR FLORIDA politicians screwed it up for us, now we are paying the consequences.

This is an issue we should be taking up with the Governor and others who voted for this when they are up for re-election. Rules are rules.

However, if Florida IS going to count, there needs to be a re-vote because the first vote was NOT supposed to count, the candidates did NOT campaign here (other than a short visit by Hillary and a single Obama national TV ad that couldn't be blacked out locally)…therefore it was not a fair fight! I did not take the time out of my schedule to vote because we were told IN ADVANCE it would not count. To count the original vote is to disenfranchise ME and all the others that listened to the rules we were given.

Cheyenne, Orlando FL   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Although I am Floridian and a Obama supporter. I somewhat agree with HRC that FL and MI voters should not disenfranchise and I also agree with Obama that these two states broke the rules. These two candidates should not be getting back slash because of it. We should be blaming the state legislative officials that put us in this mess. I know the next time around I will not be voting them!!!!!

Obama '08!

YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Darth Vadik, CA   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

talk about disenfranchisement….

the saddest thing is when these old white people dont even know that they are SO RACIST, remember that guy O'reilly and how surprised he was that people were civilized at a black owned resaurant?

Here is a good guide for everybody:

If you are WHITE, and OVER 50 years old

YOU SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE AT ALL BECAUSE YOU JUST MAKE YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A RACIST IDIOT.

George   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

I totally agree her. Great comment!

Obamacrat   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

"In my view there are two options: honor the results or hold new primary elections. I don't see any other solutions that are fair." – H.Clinton

Hillary knows that the new primarys are not going to happen. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if her camp is behind some of the "roadblocks" that we are seeing in the plans to resolve this. Her only true objective is to seat the delegates as is and make it look as if though her camp was supportive of other resolutions. Don't be fooled.

Jack Goeman   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

I voted in the meaningless Michigan Democratic primary. If Hillary really thinks she won Michigan, then she is more arrogant than I thought. Any informed voter knows what the vote for uncommitted was about. I say, bring on the do over, and she will be very sorry….the VP job will look better than ever to her.

Nikole   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Why can't the people of FL and MI see that she did not care anything about your vote until she started losing? If the tables were turned, she would not be pushing for a re-vote. I would believe her if she had voiced her opinion at the time of signing this agreement.

Brian   March 12th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Clinton doesn't want to disenfranchise voters?! This from the woman who disregards the results of any state that doesn't vote for her?!

THIS HYPOCRISY IS RIDICULOUS! NO MORE BILLARY POLITICS!

If the DNC is to seat FL and MI, they will need to hold revotes, which will put their elections within the timeframe required by the DNC rules. Sen. Obama would of course honor the results of those contests!

OBAMA '08!!!

Eyes Wide Open   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

CNN is such a tool for the Clinton campaign, it's not funny.

First you prematurely declare Clinton's squeaker of a primary win in Texas a "comeback," even though she lost the 20 point advantage she orginally had. Then when the caucus results come in and Obama ends up winning handily and winds up with more delegates in Texas, you bury the story.

Then Obama wins Missippi by a substantial margin, and instead of showing the results at the bottom of screen on your channel the next day as is customary, you have no graphic whatseoever and your morning news anchors barely make mention of Obama's win and don't even say what the margin of victory was.

I'm not saying you guys are pro-Clinton or anti-Obama, but it's obvious you and your news media brethren are doing everything in your power to keep the Clinton campaign alive because it makes a better news story than "Obama Secures Nomination." But c'mon! How about a little fairness. How 'bout redressing your sins and at least declaring Obama the winner of Texas? If you can't determine the winner based on the delegate count, how CAN you determine it in a race with both a primary and a Caucus where each candidate wins one of the two?

Obama won Texas. Game over.

Fowler   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

What about the thousands who stayed home and DID NOT vote because of the "your vote will not count" principle?

Who is fighting for them Hillary?

karen   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Hey, any of you in Florida and Michigan who believe that Hillary is looking out for you out of some sense of civic or moral responsibility, Think Again. She will do anything to win, including breaking rules under the "slick Hillary" guise of twisting everything to her own benefit. She learned her tricks from a master, remember? I'm surprised she hasn't put out a brief questioning the meaning of the word "rules" to the DNC.

This is the same person who had her look alike Ferrarro play the race card the DAY BEFORE the Mississippi primary so she could get the cracker vote.

Watch out Florida and Michigan, you better go for her in a revote, because if you vote for Obama, she'll find a way to make sure those votes don't count.

Independent-Latina-voter, Salt Lake City, UT   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

I wonder if she would be pushing for this IF she were in Sen. Obama's place? If I were Sen. Obama, I would say let's do it….. let's make sure that FLA. & MI. get there say. I will bet that Obama would come out the winner!

We are all sick and tired of the toxic Clinton campaign. Even my Republican husband, is will vote for Sen. Obama! We want change!

PS. Ferraro's comments ARE racist! If she were a white-Republican-male, she would have already been dragged out into the street and been tarred and feathered! The scary thing is this woman supports Hillary!

OBAMA 08!!

Paul   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Clinton is begging for Michigan and Florida ONLY because she needs them. She doesn't really care about Michigan and Florida voters, she only cares because the polls show her in the lead. If she was in first place she would be fighting to stop a Michigan and Florida revote. It's only conventient for her.

Wake up America, Obama played by the rules, Clinton wants to change the rules, only when they help her.

Latinwoman from PA   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

I meant if Mr Obama is the presidential candidate for Democrats my vote goes for Mr McCain. The fact also is there is no substance under the skin regarless the color and the charm.Mrs Clinton has demonstrated incredible skills as a true conductor for this Country that I love more than anything.

Obama Supporters.....   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Just for the record, Senator Clinton and one other nominee are the ONLY ONES who did not abandon the voters of Michigan and remove their names like Senator Obama did. There was nothing opportunistic about it! Get it – Senator Obama voluntarily removed his name.

Now he does not want the votes to count because he would be behind in all counts. I find that an opportunistic position for Senator Obama and a total ignoring of the voters on his part.

I will suggest that Senator Clinton has been the only one supporting the voters of Michigan and Florida so far. If she is the nominee I am sure those two states will vote blue in November. Let's keep in mind that Clinton has won the states needed to win the White House -Senator Obama has not.

I for one will not vote for him. I do not support nuclear weapons, amnesty and a host his other proposed standings. Course, I am not sure which ones would show up if he gets the nod. This guy is too green – and will cause irreperable harm to our country. He already is!

It is not a matter of catching up to Senator Obama delegate wise….think about it – he cannot get the 2025 needed either. For those who haven't figured it out yet – he can't 'win' either – so the race continues. There is a long way to go still.

I realize that you all have taken on the 'beat Clinton' stuff just like Senator Obama but unlike him – the voters should be looking to November – not just beating Clinton, and a vote for Senator Obama right now is a vote for McCain in November.

Yeswecan   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

As far as voters concern, they have voted. Why their voice don't count? Only because some party leaders think their rule is greater than 2 million people's voice?

Jerry Petryk   March 12th, 2008 11:24 am ET

A couple of years ago, about 1971, I had the priviledge of working for a Senator from New York. His name was James L. Buckley. After delivering some stuff to the Capital Building, I wa on the subway car about to go back to the Old Senate Office Building (there were only two of them then) when the bells and whistles went off saying someone "important" was coming. A guard tried to hustle me off the the seat for an older gentleman. He told the guard to leave me alone, got in, sat down and asked me what I was doing in Washington. I told him I was in school on a political science program working for Sen. Buckley. He looked at me and said, "Son, politics is an awfully dirty business." In the past week or two I've found Senator Ellender's words to be very, very accurate. To imagine that Bill and Hillary Clinton would consider giving George and his cronies four more years to take away much of what was once the Land of the Free when we are on the verge of taking our nation back, is to me repugnant.

Charlotte   March 12th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Obama does not want a re-vote, If he thought he would win you can bet he would be all for it. He wants to split 50/50 which would, in essence, be a no gain for either candidate. I say re-do and let the chips fall where they may.

Amy in Iowa   March 12th, 2008 11:23 am ET

"We won Florida, we won Michigan." Didn't Hillary make those Sybillish claims in a speech after her Ohio win? She is pathological. First she claims she won the two states, which she clearly did not as these were beauty contests. And now she is saying they need to be done again.

This is the kind of double-speak, smoke and mirrors politician games I can't stand about the Clintons. Be upfront with people the first time. She is a master at game playing. Obama says lets stop the games. He has my vote.

George   March 12th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Americans – you simply can not punish all citizens from Michigan and Florida by not allowing their votes to be counted. That is not democraci. It would be very unfair to the only female candidate.

By the way: "RACISM" and "MALE-CHAUVENISM" are like branches of a cherry tree – they are RELATIVES. Its´ well known that most American men don´t like women in power. If you ad all these men to the 13,8 % of the American pupulation who are Afro-Americans you will understand that the Hillery Clinton – the strong women in this presidential election – is VERY disadvantaged in terms of equality. It is a wonder that Hillery Clinton despite this has done so well in her campaign.

Carey   March 12th, 2008 11:23 am ET

If Obama were smart, he would welcome the re-vote in both Florida and Michigan. I say this for 2 reasons – 1) it will make it look like he is not afraid of losing these states & 2) he will need the support of these voters in November IF he is the candidate. For him or any other Obama supporter to deny these citizens their say is to alienate them in November and to look afraid of losing.

Oh & for Vincent, who asked why Hillary didn't support FL & MI then & wants them so bad now — well, the DNC forbid EVERY candidate from campaigning in both states (though Obama did anyway in FL (in a very subtle manner)) & she, just like every other candidate, was abiding by the rules (so much for the argument that the rules don't apply to her).

Reality check #1   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Count those votes! Florida vote was as fair to one candidate as it was to the other, let Florida stand as is. Michigan, inexpierence got Obama where he sits now with the Michigan vote. He made the decision to pull his name and should take the consequences of his actions, he had a choice and used bad judgement. Let those votes count! We should not have to pay for Obama's bad judgement call.

Adam, Los Angeles   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

"The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored." Wow Senator Clinton has real f*ed up sense of right and wrong! She was the only person on the ballot in Michigan and no one was able to campaign in Florida. How can she possibly believe the voters in Florida were able to come to an informed decision?

I agree with a revote. I also think that Florida and Michigan should be stripped of half their delegates for breaking the DNC primary rules — they knew this would happen; they chose to do it anyway.

Jane MN   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

With all these going on, I am more and more convinced that Hillary has been and will do anything to get what she wants. If I were a Clinton supporter, I wouldn’t be so confident about the final outcomes of re-vote (if it’ll indeed happen) in FL and MI – Remember, Hillary has to win big in order to catch up with Obama. My another concern goes to the reliability of re-do in mail-vote – FL once had a huge fuss over an in person vote. Do you think the turn-out of a mail-vote will be better?

Bwambs   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Hypogr… liar, 'monster".You think that presidency is designed for you?
Let Amrica show you what presidency really means.Hillary, get your behind and go home.No more scandals in white house.Enough is enough. You have to repudiate your supporters Racist airs.Am white and yes those words to me sounds like racism. You cannt get away with this anymore.Meet us in PA.
Obama 08

Black Man in Dixie   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

In a September 30, 2007 article, in an impromptu nterview with the Tampa Tribune, Obama stated "I'll do what's right by Florida voters."

You can check this out on the Tribune's website by doing search. The article was written by Elaine Silvestrini and William March.

Why is this man ALWAYS talking out both sides of his mouth? He's like one of those Junior High Kids that want's to be liked by everyone.

If you don't think this race is founded on race, you need to wake up. I take more heat from my black friends for being black and voting for Senator Clinton. Frankly, I feel that voting for Obama just because he is black is a slap in the face of Martin Luther King and the whole Civil Rights Movement..

CCC in VT   March 12th, 2008 11:22 am ET

Texas voters have spoken! Did you hear that Obama WON Texas! Yes, by winning the caucus (announced/confirmed by CNN yesterday) he’s secured 109 delegates to Hillary’s 106. I’m not sure why nobody is making a big deal out of that! If Hillary did not “win” Texas she should step down and call off the Obama attack dogs. The desperate negative campaign tactics have to go! If Hillary thinks Pennsyvania is gonna save her (with her lead in the polls by 19%)remember that she was down in the Texas polls too. Obama's message is resonating everywhere black/white/TX/FL/MI. If the coutry thinks its all about race how do you explain VT and WY??

Paul, Miami florida   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

To those that say rules this and that, HOW ABOUT IT IF IT WAS YOUR VOTE THAT DIDN'T COUNT?

Jed in Texas   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

The entire process is flawed.It should be a vote in all states on the same day just like any other election.This drawn out crap is just to make more money for the media.

Latinwoman from PA   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

This is for Mrs Ferraro's comment as I was let outside from the other comments. As a woman and latin american woman higly educated I absolutely agree with her. Her comments are only facts whether she is an old woman or not (If anyone can tell me what segment of the demographics callsher "old"). I am not and as I said highly educated and if Mr Obama wins the elections, welI am sorry but Mr McCain is my second in line.This is a fact.

Ms T   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

PLEASE LEAVE HILL ALONE, EVERYBODY FORGET THAT WHEN THE CLINTON'S WAS IN POWER AT LEAST PEOPLE HAD JOBS AND THE ECONOMY WAS IN GREAT SHAPE. EVERYBODY HATING ON HILL BECAUSE SHE A FEMALE WITH A BRAIN. HEY PEOPLE DON'T FOR GET A FEMALE RAISED YOU, AND YOU THINK THAT YOU TURNED OUT GREAT. AND FOR OBAMA PLEASE, NOT ALL AFRICIAN AMERICAN VOTED FOR OBAMA AND HE DOESN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE AT LEAST HILL HAVE TRAVELED THE WORLD AND KNOW ALLIES. BELIEVE ME THE FOREIGN COUNTRIES WILL TALK TO A CLINTON AND HELP AMERICA TO BECOME WHAT IT WAS BEFORE THE COUNTRY WENT IN THE BUSH'S.

MCillary   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Does it matter she going to try steal the election in Denver anyways. I come from small state which she says does not matter even if it is Wi. I will vote for Nadar in 2008 if she gets the nod it worked in 2000 and it will work now. Shame on you Hillary rules do not matter to you. You do not care if you play the race card ect.

terri   March 12th, 2008 11:21 am ET

have a revote. The candidates raised $100M last month. There is plenty of money. Hillary will win Florida because she carries latinos like Barack carries blacks. He will carry Michigan. Delegates will offset. Nothing will be solved. But votes will count.

Irishspacemonk   March 12th, 2008 11:20 am ET

Clinton supporters need to be reminded that she was the only candidate besides Kucinich on the Michigan ballot. How is that a fair election? And Florida voters knew before going to the polls that their vote wouldn't count. The only reason they went to the ballot in large numbers was because of the state had a property tax measure up for vote.

Roy Lewis   March 12th, 2008 11:20 am ET

It was ok for the DNC to punish Fl. and Mi until the Clintons need the votes to buy the white house. Just goes to show when things get tough hillary would not be the one we would want making major decisions. If the rules can change anytime during the process just to benefit anyone who is losing, then our democracy become a farce and sets a bad example for future generations.

TerryD   March 12th, 2008 11:20 am ET

The Whole Democratic primary voting system is absolutely ridiculous.

First people vote and that is not good enough, lets try to undue whom the people vote by having a caucus (a caucus where democrats meet to select a candidate) because voting for a candidate is not good enough.

Then if a candidate wins a state they have to split the deligates (very kindergarten-ish) lets all share now children!

Then in case, we do not like the candidate that the Democrats selected by voting, we have another recourse we have the SUPERDELEGATES!

CONVOLUTED, RIPE FOR CORRUPTION AND DOWN RIGHT UNAMERICAN

Jose'   March 12th, 2008 11:20 am ET

I don't know why the democrats bother with primaries. Why don't they just let the media pick someone for them. That is all that ends up happening anyway.

venky   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Just because Hillary is loosing, she is trying to get those votes counted. Its an act of desparation. Shame on her..she is so negative ..thank god people are not voting her

Tim   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Mrs Clinton, in October you said you kept your name on the Michigan ballot because "It's clear this election they are having isn't going to count for anything"

Now suddenly they do?

I guess it only matters when youre about to lose.

polly molly   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

HHAAA look who is talking now!!!! HIllary went along when this was convenient,now she is saying this? SHAME on you Hillary.. even with tath you wont be nominated.
She is not above the law, she is not the DNC, so let the people speak, and let the DNC decide, they have said NO, what part of NO she and Bill dont understand…………………..

James   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Ok, a third option would be to seat the delegates and not have their votes or the super delegates (the real reason Hillary wants them seated) count towards the presidential election.

Roger, AR   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

Obama needs to stop delaying and come forward. He probably thinks that he will lose Florida and Michigan. But, if he keeps ignoring them, then they will more likely vote against him in the general election.

Terry   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

This is crazy just divide the delegates 50/50. Forget the additional expense. Please let’s put an end to this move on with the election process now all I can ask is for Hillary to pull out of the race since it is obvious she has no chance of winning. I begin to wonder if these tactics are intentional to distract the American people from getting what we want for our country.

RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

I LIVE IN MICHIGAN HILLARY.I AM A 51 YEAR OLD WHITE WOMAN THAT WILL BE VOTING FOR OBAMA! I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR YOU HILLARY IF SHE WERE THE DEMOCRATIC ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!I AM ASHAMED THAT BUSH IS MY PRESIDENT.I WOULD BE ASHAMED OF HILLARY IF SHE WAS MY PRESIDENT! SHE HAS THROWN EVERY PERSON THAT HAS STOOD IN HER WAY ON THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU DO NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVOIR!

jl   March 12th, 2008 11:19 am ET

HILLARY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE!!!

IT IS ALL ABOUT HER PERSONAL GAIN.

SO DON'T BE FOOLED FL AND MI ABOUT HER FAKE LOYALTY!!!

She is losing and is just using you.

Ben   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

This is simple,if both camps agree to re voting and the fund is available then carry on with it.If not they should stick to the status quo.Any change of rule mid way will not be good for the democratic chance in November.Democratic party should be wise ,there is a problem at hand now.You have to be steadfast and avoid being seen as against the people's chioce .Dont change the rule mid stream,it will surely backfire.

Kate Poe   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

I think what the Govenor of Florida allowed to happen to the people of Florida should earn him an impeachment hearing. How can a Govenor take an oath to uphold the law and the turn around a ndcraft shady legislation to do his own will instead of the will of the people be allowed to stay in office. The people of Florida should be outraged with Govenor: Charlie Christ who is nothing more than a corrupt politico concern about himself. So much for Democracy!

Mike/Fairfax, VA   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Of course they should get to vote! If they don't, the Democratic Party can kiss the General election goodbye. I'm an independent, but for those of you who are true democrats, this should be important to you. get over all of the in-fighting and you might just be able to pull of a victory this Fall. Keep this up though, and stick with your childish chastising of one another, and it just won't happen. And of course it should be some sort of primary and not a caucus. Anyone that finds caucuses fair is completely self-serving. I still have not decided for sure who I will vote for in the end. November is still a long way off. I can say, however, that I am trying my hardest not to be influenced by all the vitriol I read in these comments sent in to CNN.

shamous mc   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Just for the record, did all of the candidates SIGN any documents showing that they agreed to the rules concerning MI+FL?
If so, show us the signatures otherwise it's revote time since the general public was told the contest did not officially count.

Rob   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Too bad Obama's not on the ticker, you don't get free press for playing by the rules. Too bad he's the candidate that doesn't want to change rules that were developed in the past (i.e. constitution, anyone?)

michael, ny   March 12th, 2008 11:18 am ET

It baffles me how Hillary can set the tone of the route the DNC should take.

I think it is time for Howard Dean to step up and put this old lady where she belongs.

No Mme Hillary, you dont own the white house and no, you dont own the democratic party.

renie   March 12th, 2008 11:17 am ET

I life in Florida. People voted because of the property tax reduction amendment…..NOT TO VOTE FOR CANDIDATES! I left my vote for my candidate blank!!! Because I was told it would not count!! Millions of people STAYED HOME because they knew their vote would not count!! Clinton is an opportunist and deceptive and divisive. I am a 57 year old white women….who will stay home if she elected in the primary.

Concerned Voter   March 12th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Look what Hillary is doing to the Democratic Party. We're turning on ourselves. There will be nothing left of the party by the time she's through.

Enrique   March 12th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Hillary is a joke.

Travis, Spokane, WA   March 12th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Are you democrats surprised? You are all about "do overs" when you know what the consequences will be as a result of your actions. Just look at abortion

SAY NO TO SOCIALISM 08

Kim Johnson of Va.   March 12th, 2008 11:16 am ET

Lou in Miami what ever. You guys knew the rules before you even voted why didn't you complain then. Your high end government officials could have vetoed this but they didn't. Don't try to blame Obama he played by the rules. I am sick and tired of people cheating in this country. Obama and Hillary lost there opportunity and know Hillary wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. She is so desperate for that power. SHOW YOUR TAX RETURNS!!!!

charles   March 12th, 2008 11:16 am ET

If you listen to little pug Roland Martin (an obama preacher)… FL and MI don't matter. Racist….

Anacostia   March 12th, 2008 11:16 am ET

The only way Hillary can win is to cheat. She's doing that by insisting that the Florida and Michigan delegates be seated. Why isn't somebody speaking up and saying "Hey wait a minute! The rules were set at the beginning – that those states would not have their delegates counted! The rules did not state 'however, if it's a close race – we will count them'". Come on now – This is so obvious.

HH   March 12th, 2008 11:15 am ET

Thats it Hillary cheat to win. You are doing an EXCELLENT job you probably ruined any chance ot you or Barack winning in the general election. After all the negative information you said about Barack. I would bet John McCain wins. I can tell you I will never vote for you, and just stay home if you are on any ticket,

gary   March 12th, 2008 11:14 am ET

She did regonize those states. They both werent on the ticket ,thats what they say.This must be the Debbie that said something to me about threats on another comment.. The only threat is what Obama is going to do if elected. dont count your eggs before they hatch.Smooth talk will not change our countries problems.You are all sold without checking the real merchandise.Time will tell. You Obama whinners and Clinton haters will see who really had the notion to deliver you the changes we need, if Obama is elected. It will be to late if HRC isnt elected to office. I dont by a product without checking the product and seeing how good it is. concernedVet

Jim Wade, IA   March 12th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Disenfranchisement or not the DNC cannot allow these states to get away with what they did. Do you realize the mayhem that will insue if these states get away with no punishment(and do not say that they have to pay for a revote, they will make far more back). Every state in the Union is going to try to make sure their primary takes place before the rest, and the DNC will not be able to do anything because they already set precedent with MI and FL.

maya   March 12th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Shilly- Not sure about your other figures, but the Washington stat is not relevant. WA voted by caucus which counted. Many people didn't bother voting for the primary since it was MEANINGLESS. This I know for a fact. It's surprising that Hillary was just a few percentage points behind Obama for this meaningless primary- the caucus margin was so big. Just goes to show…if WA was a primary- she may have won!!!

JULIE   March 12th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Human beings have the right to vote and be counted in this country, no matter how stupid their leaders are or how stupid their decisions may be. Cut the red tape and let their votes be counted

fred   March 12th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Chris, Orlando, That may be the only way Obama can win. If they don't count Michigan and Flordia he knows that and that is why he isn't pushing for the revote.

Doesn't matter anyway…Obama will never win the General Election.

Democracy   March 12th, 2008 11:13 am ET

I don't know whether CNN will post my comment I will try anyways. In all due respect FL should go to Hilary as both names were there on ballot. Hilary didn't actively comapin in FL. If FL doesn't go to Hilary then it is an injustice in the name of democarcy. FL to Hilary and MI should have a do-over as Obama name wasn't there on the Ballot. Democarcy is all about by the people, for the people and to the people. The voices of the people in FL and MI should be heard. Fundraising is the best way to do the do-over. Howard Dean should hurry up and resolve this otherwise Republican's will have the white house in Nov.

Chris   March 12th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Fact of the matter is Hilary would be ahead in the delegate count if she had Michigan and Florida, that is why Obama doesn't what them.

AB68   March 12th, 2008 11:13 am ET

The kitchen sink theory does not merely apply to the Clinton ‘08, it is double pronged, to ensure that if Clinton ‘08 does not work, that it will work for Clinton ‘12. I finally figured this thing out. It is win at all cost, but it is even more sinister. It is designed to weaken Obama to the point where if he is the nominee, he will not win in November. John McCain for 4 years is much more tolerable than Obama for 8 years. Do you see? If Clinton wins the nomination this year, it’ll be by dirty, backroom deals. She will have a slim chance winning in November if she is wins this way. But she has a better chance in 2012, provided that Obama fades away in the distance. This is Machiavellian at its finest. How else do you explain the McCain is a better commander-and-chief than Obama, the leaking of the photograph to Drudge, the Ferraro comments. The Mississippi exit polls tell you everything, Clinton supporters will not vote for Obama if he is the nominee. Mission Accomplished!

jujub   March 12th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Hillary as usual.

Like all other presidential candidates, Hillary signed an agreement well in advance of the primaries that Michigan and Florida delegates would not be seated because they failed to agree with the terms of the DNC and held their primaries and caucas' early. And, now, because she's losing the popular vote, has lost 30 states, and is way behind in electoral votes, she wants to rescind her signed agreement.

This is not about recognizing the voters of Florida and Michigan, this is because she is behind and there is no way she can win without the revotes…then again maybe she won't win Michigan and Florida. She shouldn't.

People: Clinton has no morales or honor. Vote for Change!

Tim, NC   March 12th, 2008 11:13 am ET

If we all can be honest with ourselves, we would stand back and look at this. Clinton is not concerned about the people. She cannot overtake in pledge delegates and needs the popular vote to be close so she can state her case to the super delegates. How can any of us justify a revote to our kids? Are we to teach our kids that rules are rules, but it's okay to break them. Why are we not calling the two governers of the states to task??? They are criminals!!!!

Obama People   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

You Obama people are just to squeeky clean for the rest of us. Hillary has been Hillary for 35-years. Obama has been Obama for – lets see now – just never really heard much about him. Just wait until his true colors come out. Florida and Michigan have a right to be heard and if Obama and his supporters do not like it, then they are the cheaters. Whether Hillary wins or not in a re-vote is not the point.

If Hillary is not the candidate I am not all worried – I will vote for McCain as will loads of her supporters. Obama is not ready or experienced to be President .

Eric in Ca   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

I'm sure the Patriots would like to redo the 4th quarter of the SuperBowl.

We teach our children the consequences of their actions. Now what do we tell them… But as the saying goes be careful of what you wish for…Hillary
MI and Fl may get wise to your campaign antics.

Amy, Kazoo   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

Vincent- no one was allowed to campaign in these two states. Although I hear one did in FL but I dont know if that's true or not because I see too many conflicting reports.

RightyTighty   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

"The results of those primaries were fair and they should be honored,"

God I love the Clintonian arrogance!

Ha Ha!!

Ray   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

I'm in Florida, Please Hillary, don't speak for me. You are one desperate B????

sascha   March 12th, 2008 11:12 am ET

Her definition of "fair votes" makes me feel ashamed. That is exactly the kind of politicians Obama and the American people don't want to see anymore…

Marcia Houston, TX   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Why shouldn't these votes be counted? Were they made fraudulently or deceptively? Seems as if FORM (timing of primary) is valued over substance, if their votes are not allowed to count. On the other hand there are rules, these states did not follow the rules-why? There are consequences when you don't follow the rules, but on the other hand, some rules are made to be broken. What is the case here?

Jaymes Spiekerman   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Hilliary will definitely win those two states the second time around. She is bringing Michigan and Florida up more and more because the whole country is bringing it up. She did mention them as wins when she originally won the states. Lets not forget that Barak Obama's campaign faught hard for people to vote "uncommited" in Michigan and his name was on the ballot in Florida. A clear win for both states went to Hillary Clinton and she'll win them again in June if they go through with the do-over

Go Hillary!!!!
You have my vote

Obama Supporters.....   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Just for the record, Senator Clinton and one other nominee are the ONLY ONES who did not abandon the voters of Michigan and remove their names like Senator Obama did. There was nothing opportunistic about it! Get it – Senator Obama voluntarily removed his name.

Now he does not want the votes to count because he would be behind in all counts. I find that an opportunistic position for Senator Obama and a total ignoring of the voters on his part.

I will suggest that Senator Clinton has been the only one supporting the voters of Michigan and Florida so far. If she is the nominee I am sure those two states will vote blue in November. Let's keep in mind that Clinton has won the states needed to win the White House -Senator Obama has not.

I for one will not vote for him. I do not support nuclear weapons, amnesty and a host his other proposed standings. Course, I am not sure which ones would show up if he gets the nod. This guy is too green – and will cause irreperable harm to our country. He already is!

DB   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

And HRC changes her tune again! After SPECIFICALLY AGREEING to the rules, she now wants the delegates seated. WHY? Because it suits her and she's desperate for votes.

It's a female version of Rove. Power hungry and manipulative. Thanks for setting us females back another 40 years, Hil-dear.

Tiffany   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Michigan and Florida have to face the consequences of their decision. Its too late for a revote.

Pat M   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Hillary is right. These people already voted, their votes were counted.
They should stand as such. It was the Republican Machine that wanted to move the date ahead which caused this mess. They not Hillary made that decision they should live with it. Also Obama made the decision at that time not to include his name for the vote. He should also live with his decision.

Fair is Fair. Those in favour of re doing this vote are likened only to the old adage, "Crying over Spilt Milk." You decided, you did it, it's done.

Dave   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

This pathetic human (Hillary) didn't worry about disinfranchising the Florida and Michigan voters when she thought she would easily win the party's nomination.

I'm so sick of Hillary, Bill, Bush and the divisive hatred between the two parties (and building within the Democratic Party because of Hillary). It's time for something new…please quit the race Hillary. The only way you can win is to destroy the Democratic Party.

Michael   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

I also wanted to point out a fact I recently uncovered. Obama was sworn into office January 4th, 2005. The vote to authorize force in Iraq occurred Oct 11th 2002. He likes to tout that he was against the war in Iraq from the beginning but he wasn't even in a position political to matter on a national level. So how or why would it matter if a lay man was against the war in Iraq, especially when at the time most of America, Democrat or Republican was for the war? I think people should really investigate his claims better and also look within themselves at that time in history.

maya   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

We are the party that COUNTS THE VOTES. Remember election 2000? The GOP said "Rules are rules" and we shot back, "COUNT THE VOTES!"

However we do this, we need to do it!!!

Jared   March 12th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Great job, Hill! Thanks for standing up for the little guy!!! LOL! If these were Obama states, I wonder if you'd show the same 'concern'. I think she's forgotten that if the DNC allows a re-vote, it also means Obama will actually campaign there. Concede – for the love of God – concede!

Jim Wade, IA   March 12th, 2008 11:10 am ET

The delegates will NOT be seated the way they are now. That would cause even bigger riots then not seating them at all. Clinton is beyond delusional if she thinks there is any way the DNC would allow her to take delegates in a state where she was the only one on the ballot as per DNC request.

Jay MN   March 12th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Chris, with the increasing and accelerating alienation of the Africa American community by the Clintons', and the high percentage of African American voters in Detroit and Flint, the best that Hillary could hope for is a narrow win, which wouldn't be enough to help her in delegates. Of course, the possibility is there with all of those Detroit and Flint voters for a decisive Obama victory.

Edward   March 12th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Hillary – my level of respect for you has gone from zero to negative. What if it were Mississippi? Would you want those votes to count? Please, do us all a favor – go away.

Independent   March 12th, 2008 11:10 am ET

I don't see how you can say that vote results are fair when there are so many people who are now contacting news agencies and govenment officials in these two states who did not vote, because they believed that vote would not count anyway. It isn't truly a democratic process unless people believe that their vote will be counted. I also think that the idea that Michigan's vote was 'fair' when hers was the only major candidate on the ticket is ridiculous.

aguilar-magee   March 12th, 2008 11:10 am ET

They didn't follow the rules and shouldn't be counted.

Rick in Florida   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Keeping her name on the Michigan ballot, when she knew the other main candidates were removing their names, is just another example of how calculating and devious she is. If she had removed her name then "UNCOMMITTED" would have won, and then she couldn't later claim the delegates, as she's doing now. She calculated that.

Typical of the Clintons……follow the rules if hey benefit, but forget the rules if they don't benefit.

STICK to what was agreed to, and no seating of delegates to anyone. Thousands stayed home, thinking their vote wouldn't count. And what about the momentum John Edwards might have gotten if he'd done well in these 2 primaries?? You can't go back and un-do it all without being unfair to one side or another, so LEAVE IT AS IT IS.

CB   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Real good Hillary! Now the rest of the story, as Mr. Paul Harvey would say, you voted with the leadership of the DNC to punish any state that held early primaries. Why are you crying FOUL now? Senator Obama's name was not on the ballot in Michigan, but you still claim victory there. You continue to have visions of grandeur about winning FL and MI and even Senator Obama as your VP. We have one delusional person at the helm already, are you asking us to continue the madness with you as president? By the way Hillary, did you have a security clearance when you were our Co-President with Bill? I’m just looking to get some clarity on your executive level experience. Stop the madness Hillary, drop Grandma Ferraro and stop hurting the party.

nick   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Things would be different if she had lost those states. She didn't say a word about them until she won. Same old Clintons. Same old tricks. Same old politics. I will not vote for her and many many other people feel the same way. Why should we go through this, we might as well give this election to John McCain because our party is so split. Hillary has helped the GOP more than they have helped themselves. Good job Clinton.

An Agnostic Democrat   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Hillary:

Don't keep changing the rules to which you pledged your signature.
You won't win if you are the nominee because no one likes a desperate, slimey, double-speaking cheater!

I hope the Clinton are forced out of the Democratic Party for all their hypocrisy and shenanigans. Maybe the Republicans will adopt them since they seem to operate in the same scummy, low life junior league of degradation.

David   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

the people of these states need to take it up with their legislature and throw the rascals out if need be. they are the ones who messed up and agreed to the rules only to break them. Howard Dean has said it over and over that everyone agreed on the rules. but Hillary thinks she won these states when some candidates were not even on the ballot. silly Hillary.

Geo AR   March 12th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Hillary will win Florida

Go Hillary

MO   March 12th, 2008 11:08 am ET

FL and MI knew the impact they would have on their voters. It would cost millions to redo a vote that Hilary thinks she will benefit from. I think it is insane that the votes do not count but rules are rules. She wants to win by any means neccessary. No time for the dirty tricks.

Blaze, Atlanta GA   March 12th, 2008 11:08 am ET

I would agree with her if only I thought she really means this for the voters. But we all know she was happy to "disenfranchise" them when she thought she would win. She was happy to agree to not have them count before she was trailing in the race. Now she wants to count them. It's the hippocrisy that turns me (and a lot of people) off.

Gini   March 12th, 2008 11:08 am ET

This woman is so transparent. Now CNN wants to be sly and write the following about her comments:

"…Clinton said, echoing comments she has made since both states voted in late January."

Right CNN; she was this adament in January…right.

Steve   March 12th, 2008 11:08 am ET

Too Late!

Tim, NC   March 12th, 2008 11:07 am ET

You are standing before a judge. Your honor, I feel cheated and disenfranchised. I am appalled that you State Trooper not only had the audacity to stop me, but went over the top in giving me a ticket. Yes, I saw the speed limit sign that said 55 MPH. However, I wanted to get home a little quicker, so I felt 75 MPH was appropriate. Just because the 55 MPH speed limit is the law and has been so for a long time is irrelevant in my opinion. In fact I think the system was in error from the start for even enacting such a law. This is America, not some communist country. Who has the right to tell me how fast I can drive?

Doesn't make a bit of sense, does it? Neither does allowing for a revote!!!!

M. S. Indiana   March 12th, 2008 11:07 am ET

what about the other states, they get 2 vote 2 times to too ??

there is an open spot for Gov in NY…. maybe soon in FL and MI to too

Lydia   March 12th, 2008 11:07 am ET

What a hypocrite!

Florida and Michigan were a non-issue for Hillary Clinton because she thought race would rear its ugly head and she would automatically win the nomination on Super Tuesday. She was wrong! White Americans have been supporting Barack Obama because he is the better qualified candidate, race notwithstanding.

Now, however, since she is losing in number of states won, number of pledged delegates, total number of delegates, and the popular vote, she is so concerned about disenfranchising the people of Florida and Michigan.

Yeah, right!

Take a look   March 12th, 2008 11:07 am ET

So split the delegates 50-50 between the two candidates and get on with it!

Kerry   March 12th, 2008 11:07 am ET

Maybe Hillary can loan Michigan and Florida the money for a re-vote?

A re-vote will not make much a difference anyways in terms of delegates. As they say, it's the Math stupid. At best for Hillary, it will just be like Ohio and Texas.

Lynnette   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

As a Democrat, I want the democratic voters in both of these states to count because it's not their fault on what's happened.
Having said that, it's too bad that the politicians in power in both of these states couldn't follow the rules of the DNC and we wouldn't be in this mess now. Trying to blame Howard Dean is unproductive and shifts the blame from Florida and Michigan. These governors must be under tremendous pressure to fix the problem.
Everyday that goes by is another day closer to the convention without their delegates. Florida and Michigan had better dig deep into their pockets and come up with the money for the revote. I bet they won't pull this again.

Amy in Iowa   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

Even with a re-vote and Hillary pulling 55% of the vote in both states, she can not still catch up with Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton needs to seriously concede for the good of the democratic party. Or based on her recent divisive actions, as well as endorsement of McCain over Obama, the democratic party needs to kick her out if she doesn't leave. It is clear her intentions are self-serving and she is intent on destroying the DNC from within if she is not the nominee. The DNC needs to end this now or face ruin of the party.

Mom inPA   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

If the rules are changed and Michigan and Florida are counted, I wonder if Edwards would like a do-over on getting out of the race. Had his name been on the ballot, he would have won Michigan and might have stayed in the race.

Let's ask John to come back!!!!!!!!! Obama-Edwards! Edwards-Obama!
And Richardson as Sec of State!

Jay MN   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

Wait…did she actually go so far as to say the results of those two primaries were fair, including Michigan?

Let the field day begin!

Marc   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

As an addendum to my previous post, watch the great uniter Obama do his best to disenfranchise these voters.

Robert   March 12th, 2008 11:06 am ET

It's ridiculous that the demosratic party would act like the Supreme Court in 2000 and tell people that their votes don't count. Obama supporters are such whiners and poor sports that Florida and Michigan people would be fools to vote for him if they are allowed to revote.

Jan / Jacksonville, Fla.   March 12th, 2008 11:05 am ET

I think if Hillary Clinton feels that stromgly about Florida and its delegates then let her campaign pay for another primary.

Beth   March 12th, 2008 11:05 am ET

There won't be a re-vote in Florida. The House Dems are against it, and so far only one Dem Senator has come out for it. I'm a Floridian, and as much as I don't like my vote not counting, I don't see how she can claim that the primaries were "fair". Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan!! Has she lost her mind? Edwards and Obama pulled out because that's what they were supposed to do. Hillary herself last fall said that "everyone knows these primaries won't count for anything, so it doesn't matter if I leave my name on the ballot." And now–because she's down–she cares about our voices. I want to matter–but I realize that rules are rules and actions have consequences. How about we act like responsible adults and respect those rules?

ZCL   March 12th, 2008 11:05 am ET

DEMOCRATS UNITE! DO NOT SILENCE five million people. I am a CLINTON supporter, but will vote BARACK OBAMA if he is the party's choice.

The REPUBLICANS will do whatever it takes to get the PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE. We are giving them more power by bickering amoung ourselves. TOGETHER we can get this country back on track.

People keep saying that CLINTON should do what is right for the party…..well VOTERS put your vote where your mouths are, VOTE DEMOCRATIC no matter which candidate wins. This is FOR THE GOOD of our party.

IT will be those that do not vote in the general elections that will complain about the state of our Union the most.

GO DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel from Kansas   March 12th, 2008 11:05 am ET

I THINK CNN IS PURPOSELY TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE THIS RACE IS CLOSE AND HILLARY HAS A CHANCE, WHEN IN FACT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HER TO CATCH UP.

CNN SAID THE DEMOCRATIC RACE WAS "FROZEN IN TIME" WHEN IN FACT OBAMA STILL HAS ALL THE MOMENTUM.

CNN SAID THAT HILLARY WON TEXAS WHEN WE NOW KNOW THAT OBAMA WON MORE DELEGATES IN TEXAS.

CNN, WHY DON'T YOU START DOING YOUR JOB AND QUIT PANDERING FOR RATINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clintonfatigued   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

She had no problem agreeing to not have their votes count last year when she and all the others AGREED to the DNC rules.

But then she was the "inevitable nominee" acording to her, the campaign and the media (so much for them being so mean to "wittle ol' Hillary").

Then Obama happened and she is changing her tune.

Obama has to go along with this or he will suffer at the hands of he voters in these two states, either now or in the general.

Throwing the kitchen sink out there by injecting race, dirty politics, lies, flip flops, distortions, nuance, redefining the meaning of words, sexism, tears, smears, blaming the media.

Ready to mislead from day one.

Marc   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

Mississippi's a joke (as is pretty much the entire caucus system) and doesn't matter. These states do and PA. With these 3, it's over for Barack's cult movement.

aPuerto Rican   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

IF SHE WHERE SITTING WHERE SEN . OB IS SITTING NOW, SHE WOULDN'T BE PUSHING SO HARD. SHE SHOW US HOW RULE DON'T APPLY TO HER OR OR HER HUSBAND. SHE HAD TURN OUT TO BE SUCH A FAKE… YES WE CAN!!

Steve, Chelsea, MI   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

They should only be counted in a re-vote. I didn't vote in the Democratic primary because my choice was "Hillary" and "Not-Hillary." Give us a real ballot and see how many people vote for Obama.

Jay MN   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

Why did she consent to it when the decision was made.

"I was for it before I was against it." logic doesn't work. Ask John Kerry.

Keep talking, Clinton camp. Keeeep talkin'.

Sheri-ND   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

Obama stated last night on CNN that he will stand by whatever rules the DNC puts in place regarding MI & FL.

Kareem from Hampton VA   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

EXACTLY DEBBIE!! At this point a think a re-do would KILL Hillary! They know who Obama is now!! And they know what depths Hillary will go to win!! They also know that Hillary didnt even look their way until she started loosing!!! She also has forgotten that even though she won those states before there were HUGE uncommited margins in both states!!! Again Hillary are you sure you want this?

Max   March 12th, 2008 11:04 am ET

There are millions of people that DIDN'T vote in either Florida or Michigan, BECAUSE these primaries WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO COUNT.
The turnout there was the LOWEST it has ever been in democratic primaries the same year it has reached RECORD levels everywhere else in the country.
If the Clinton campaign wanted to be HONEST, they would talk about all the people they would be disenfranchising by CHANGING THEIR WORD on the validity of the Michigan and Florida contest that were declared at the time illegal and void by ALL THE CANDIDATES including Clinton.

Susan   March 12th, 2008 11:03 am ET

Split the votes right down the middle and Obama will still be ahead and win the nomination. I am convinced the Clintons (both) will do anything to undermine the process. Hope the country does not buy this act.

P King   March 12th, 2008 11:03 am ET

Yes you are a racist or you would not have made the comment. The Clinton "camp" has not shown near the integrity as the Obama "camp" and integrity is the one thing I am seeking in a new President for this country. I want a sincere honest person that can lead this country in the direction that we have strayed from and restore to the world the true feelings of the American people that the United States is not the enemy but a friend to all mankind no matter what their race or relgion they are.

j gannon   March 12th, 2008 11:02 am ET

There are no rules for the Clintons!!

Eric   March 12th, 2008 11:02 am ET

this is just asking for trouble. if florida and michigan aren't punished what's to stop other states next election to move primaries up to october to try to get to the front of the line.

Sean   March 12th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Chris: If the only reason that you want a revote in Michigan and Florida is because you know you can't win without them, then you are doing a great injustice in both of those states. Your motivation for your desire of a revote is the problem. You are not interested in what's "fair". You only want a victory.

tina   March 12th, 2008 11:02 am ET

By the way, in a FAIR fight Hlllary will lose Michigan and Florida will be a LOT closer than it was the first time….

Chris, Orlando   March 12th, 2008 11:01 am ET

This is a no-brainer. If the DNC ignores FL and MI, the Dems will lose in November. So far, Hillary has been the ONLY candidate voicing support for Florida and Michigan. Obama is content to run on his broad black appeal and a slew of RED state wins. Got news for you, Barack. You'd better pray you're on the losing side of this nomination, because if you win, you're going to face the wrath of Florida and Michigan who will carry McCain to the White House on their shoulders.

I WANT MY VOTE COUNTED!

tina   March 12th, 2008 11:00 am ET

A revote is the only fair option. Many in both states (myself included) stayed home because we were told it would not count.

As a working mother of 4, I don't have time in my day to take off for beauty contests. Many others felt the same.

Lou in Miami   March 12th, 2008 10:59 am ET

I wish Obama was fitting as hard for our votes in Florida like Hillary just in case he got the nomination. The truth is he got my vote at the primary in january but if we get a re-vote Hillary will get it this time since she is the only one that wants it and is putting up a fight for US.

Silly Argument Shillary........   March 12th, 2008 10:59 am ET

A closer look at the Hillary "BiG State " arguement

Consider the top 9 "big" states that have voted so far
State . . . . . . . Obama . . . . . . . .Clinton
California . . .2,126,000 . . . . . . .2,553,000
Texas . . . . . 1,358,000 . . . . . . .1,459,000
New York. . . . . 698,000 . . . . . . .1,003,000
Illinois. . . . 1,302,000 . . . . . . . .662,000
Ohio . . . . . . 982,000. . . . . . . 1,212,000
Georgia . . . . . 704,000 . . . . . . . .330,000
New Jersey. . . . 492,000 . . . . . . . .603,000
Virginia . . . . 627,000 . . . . . . . .350,000
Washington . . . 354,000 . . . . . . . .316,000

Total . . . . . 8,643,000 . . . . . . .8,487,000

Let's put an end to this BS argument

Independant   March 12th, 2008 10:59 am ET

I have NO sympathy, — NONE– NADA. The states knew they were violating the rules when they set the voting dates. So, what`s the big deal ????

Sean   March 12th, 2008 10:59 am ET

The only disenfranchisement came from the elected officials in that state that decided to break the rules. They are the ones that made the decision that put all of the people in their states in the position they're in. This is not the primary. There is no legal basis for them to even have a vote. And for those that think Hillary would benefit from a revote, think again. They were the first two states to vote, and no one gave Obama a chance back then. Yet he still held his own. And let's not forget that, short of a landslide in both states (which won't happen in either direction) it just won't matter. The math just isn't there. So unless Clinton plans on introducing new math formulas, she should just accept the inevitable and start trying to reunite the party.

Dusacre   March 12th, 2008 10:59 am ET

I) Florida and Michigan knew the rules and punishment for breaking the rules before their leaders decided to break them.

II) All the candidates including Obama and Hillary agreed with the punishment imposed by the DNC

III) The remaining states and territories kept the rules

If will be a BIG MISTAKE for future elections to let these two states go "unpunished" in some form or other.

Michigan and Florida delegates should be seated but their impact on deciding the nomination should be zero.

That may not seem faire to individual voters, but this is the only outcome that teaches responsibility and preserve order for future elections.

Hillary and Obama lost their options to change those rules or manipulate the outcome when they agreed with the DNC before the race started.

Debbie   March 12th, 2008 10:58 am ET

I hope Florida and Michigan get to vote again. Watch it Hillary, they voted for you before they saw your true colors. Are you sure you want this?

Vincent   March 12th, 2008 10:58 am ET

All for power.

Why did did Hillary decide to not recognize the fForida and Michigan delegates when she dicided not to campaign there. Now that she needs them to save her life, she is all set to bend the rules.

What an opportunistic person!

Chris   March 12th, 2008 10:58 am ET

Go Hillary. We can not win w/o those 2 states. Obama just dosne't get it. Well, it because he knows he will loose them in a re-vote.

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