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I wonder if Hitlery will endorse McSellout over Osama again as being better qualified?

A case of "a house divided". The Republicans are very, very grateful to you Geraldine.

NEVER OBAMA !!!!

COme on democrats in PA lets support the best candidate.

Hillary '08

The Democrats are imploding and Hillary Clinton is leading the charge. I have lost respect for her completely. The Clintons were known for fighting dirty when it came to the Republicans. But to use dirty tactics against a member of your own party is insane when what the Party wants is the White House.

Clinton should denounce the ugly, racist comments made by Geraldine Ferraro. How would Clinton respond if an Obama supporter said that Clinton is only a Senator because, "She slept her way to the top by being married to a President?" Recall - she didn't even live in New York when she ran for office and wouldn't be the current Senator any other way, period.

FIRST, LET ME STATE THAT THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS ARE MY BELEIFS AND ANYONE IS FREE TO DISAGREE ALL THEY WANT. IN MICHIGAN, ALL THE CANDIDATES HAD THE OPTION OF TAKING THEIR NAME OFF THE BALLOT OR LEAVE IT ON. THE JUDGEMENT OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES WAS TO REMOVE THEIR NAMES EXCEPT HILLARY CLINTON AND DENNIS KUCINICH. THERE WAS A THIRD OPTION IF VOTERS DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR EITHER NAMES ON THE BALLOT WHICH WAS " UNCOMMITTED" AND SOME VOTED THAT WAY. HILLARY CLEARLY WON MICHIGAN NO M ATTER WHAT SO THE DELEGATES SHOULD BE DEVIDED BETWEEN HILLAY AND DENNIS K. BESIDES, NOW WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE THAT THEY VOTED ON JAN. 29TH OR FEB. 5TH.

SLOPPY POLITICS BY THE DEM AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THIS STATE. YET AGAIN FLORIDA HAS SCREWED THE PEOPLE. INSTEAD OF GETTING MADE DURING THE GENERAL ELECTION, THIS WILL BE THE TIME TO VOTE THE IDIOTS THAT ARE REPRESENTING FLORIDA IN A NON DEMOCRATIC WAY OUT THE DOOR!!!! ...................***slams door and walks out***

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>For the last time Hillary did not campaign in Florida or Michigan. She >came to Florida after the voting was over. Obama campaigned by >putting ads on TV and then said oops, I am sorry. He should be >penalized as he and only he went against the rules.

Susan, FOR THE LAST TIME, the Obama ads that were shown in Florida, were ads that he purchased as part of a NATIONAL campaign.

They were not exclusively purchased for Florida.

Don't these people love counting ballots? I figured they'd be all over a revote.

From Floridian:
I know several people including myself who did not vote in the primaries because we were told that they were not going to count. I felt angy at that at the time, but what could I do? And now you're going to tell me that you want to count them as they are? That's not fair and I feel like my rights are being violated. Say what you want about that I didn't vote, but I was angry and since it wasn't going to count (or so I was told) I didn't vote. I would LOVE to be able to vote and for it to count, so I would love a revote, but if many people who voted are going to be discouraged and not vote now, then the votes shouldn't be counted at all. After all, that was what the agreement was, and it had nothing to do with the people of Florida (and of Michigan I'm sure).

it was the republicans who moved up the election in florida, god knows why the dems went along with it, but it was not voted for.

neither candidate campaigned in florida or michigan, but obama ran ads in florida as part of a "package deal" that included many other states.

both candidates names were on the ballot in florida.

hillary won florida handedly.

in a close race it is unfair for the people of florida to be disenfranchised again.

why should they have to re-vote?

michigan, where obama's name really was not on the ballot (by his own choice, of course), is a different story.

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Hillary's campaign is trying to garner voteds from the covetly racist part of America. This is the part of our country, people want to pretend doesn't exist. Hillary has alienated the black voters that she will need to win in the fall. if she manages to steal the nomination from Obama, Obama supporters will either boycott the election or vote for John McCain. THAT IS WHY SHE NEEDS FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN .....BUT IT WON'T HELP!

They said the vote was "fair and should be honored". That is just another proof that the Clintons are not after what is best for the American people but after just what benefits them. How can they say that an election is fair, when you only have one candidate on the ballot. Maybe in the former Soviet Union, that would be considered fair. That is totally laughable. Give us a break.

For those making comments about leaving the Dem party if this matter is not resolved are brain dead. I live in Florida and the reality of the matter is it is not fair to either candidate because if Hillary is given these two states, there will be many angry folks who may not vote for her due to the HIGH HIGH level of divisiveness that she has displayed throughout her campaing (from racism to lying). If Obama is given these two states then Hillary will complain that the process was not fair and the media will try to make him out to be non-patriotic. So it is not a win win situation for either.

I am concerned about the prospect of a few wealthy private individuals financing an election - creates at a minimum the appearnce of a conflict of interest.

Florida and Michigan broke the rules. I've seen comments from around the world from people who have a firmer grasp on rules and democracy than most Americans do. There are consequences if you do not follow the rules.

But we are quickly becoming a society where everyone gets a trophy for simply participating. It wasn't too long ago when there was a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. To everyone else, thanks for playing. And you tried harder next time. You didn't whine and complain and ask for a do-over.

Hillary's camp needs to grow a pair and follow the rules they agreed to at the start of this process.

SHOW US YOUR TAX RETURN HILLARY! Or ARE YOU BUSY GETTING it FIXED UP TO LOOK GOOD! SHOW US!!!!!!!!!!

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Hillary's campaign is trying to garner voteds from the covetly racist part of America. This is the part of our country, people want to pretend doesn't exist. Hillary has alienated the black voters that she will need to win in the fall. if she manages to steal the nomination from Obama, Obama supporters will either boycott the election or vote for John McCain.

To Pon Mao,

No Hillary's name was not the only one on the Michigan ballot!!!

What you are saying is that Obama's name wasn't on the ballot.....WHY. Because he was too dumb to get it on there!!!!!

The FL Democrats are really shooting themselves in the foot, now. A re-vote is the only way to get an accurate picture of the will of voters in FL. You can tell, just by reading the posts on this page. If FL voters are disenfranchised – which they will be if the status quo is maintained – then the national Democratic Party will be fractured. If the FL votes are counted as-is, the national Democratic Party will be fractured, since a large percentage of rule-abiding voters would be outraged. The Republicans are barely concealing fits of giggles right now. This started as FL's problem, but now it's the Party's problem. Tell the DNC to organize a special fund-raising effort to hold new FL elections, and get it done pronto. Otherwise, say hello to President McCain.

If Clinton had delegates lead now, and if Obama's name was the only one on MI ballot, I am sure Clinton will NOT want seat those delegates.

And if Geraldine Ferraro think her comment was a fact , then she should consider the FACT that Hillary Clinton is even in this year's election is because she's a woman (and sticked with a cheating husband).

If they don't inforce the rules they made before the election started,how are they(DNC)going to stop another state from moving up their election in 2012. Those states will say," what are you going to do if we move our election up?Not seat our delegates,yeah right". They know nonthing will happen to them because the follow through on penalties have been set.NONE! That's the precedent being set in the DNC politics.

In order to count the votes in Michigan and Florida there MUST be
a RE-VOTE!!!

No other way is acceptable.

The DNC is Flip-Flopping.

I) Florida and Michigan knew the rules and punishment for breaking the rules before their leaders decided to break them.

II) All the candidates including Obama and Hillary agreed with the punishment imposed by the DNC

III) The remaining states and territories kept the rules

If will be a BIG MISTAKE for future elections to let these two states go "unpunished" in some form or other.

Michigan and Florida delegates should be seated but their impact on deciding the nomination should be zero.

That may not seem faire to individual voters, but this is the only outcome that teaches responsibility and preserve order for future elections.

Hillary and Obama lost their options to change those rules or manipulate the outcome when they agreed with the DNC before the race started.

Why the DNC is not acting strongly on this issue? It seems to me by providing another chance or chances to both Michigan and Florida is telling anybody who breaks the rules: "Listen you broke the rules but it is okay here is your award you run the show!" (you deserve it more than who obeyed the rules)

The DNC approach should be a clear NO (Sorry Charlie!) just like what they told them before people went to polls knowing that their votes wouldn't count!

Everybody is talking about how important Florida and Michigan will be in the general election, so they should be given a second chance. Well, the last time I checked their importance didn't pop out just after Hillary won Ohio and supposedly Texas (Since Obama won the total State once the republican who favored Hillary were excluded from the caucas!).
Weren't these 2 states important when the DNC punished them since they broke the rules? And what did it change in the clear defined rules and circumstances (other than Hillary fell behind) now since the DNC is allowing all this theather to happen?

Republicans won Florida during the last two major elections! The governor is Republican (who is happy seeing the Democrats fights and not follow their own rules!). And knowing Charlie is charge the Republican McCain will win Florida in 2008 (Whether Hillary or Obama is the nominee).

So I don't see why the DNC is NOT reminding the rules to those who broke them and say the case is closed!

Being a Florida voter, I'm appalled at the suggestion that the primary should be seated as is. The election was far from fair. Voter turnout was terrible because we knew months in advance that our votes would count for nothing anyway, but hey, at least we're voting two months earlier, right? Let the superdelegates decide this one or have a FAIR re-vote; counting the votes as they stand would be the true disenfranchisement of Florida voters.

I'm tired of my state being a laughingstock, but really, when they do things like this...

Clinton's camp is trying to fool people again: of course the previous primary in MI and FL were NOT "fair", because lots of people there knew the DNC had RULEs that would not count their vote, so those people didn't even vote, how about those people's voice?

And only Hillary's name was on MI ballot, how can someone (who is sane) to consider that was fair?

To all the FL voters who didn't even bother voting because they knew their vote would not count...

I DID vote, even though I had been told my vote would not count. Why?? Because I am an American Citizen.

I will fight for my rights, even when others try to take them away.

I will stand up and use my voice, even when others will try to silence it.

I will meet my duty and responsibility to participate in our political processes, even when others try to take away that right. and negate my responsibility.

That is why I voted, and it appears there are a WHOLE bunch of other Floridians who obviously felt the way I did. We voted for our candidate of choice. We have internet, we have TV, we have print media – we did not need a candidate to make a personal appearance here to inspire us and whip us into a frenzy to get us to get out and vote. We did the right thing, even though many said "don't bother", you don't count. We did not take that as appropriate then, and we don't take that as appropriate now.

We were sending a message to the DNC then, and we are sending a message to the DNC now – hear us, the registered Democratic voters of this state. We want to participate – now it is up to you to allow our voices to be heard, for our votes to be counted.

I do wish ALL registered Democrats in this state had stood up for their rights, but some chose not to. Do not penalize me for your inaction. I did my civic duty, and I am demanding my voice be heard, my vote be counted, and my rights not be violated in this process.

I am Hillary's support. Democrate's leadership have a problem. Let the Hillary and Obama fight each other. We are tired. This situation must be changed and otherwise the people will swith to publican.

Ya know, I just can't believe some of the comments I've read here. Do you really thing voters in Michigan and Florida are dumb? We do have TV, cable and newspapers/magazines too! For anyone to say we didn't KNOW the candidates is just ridiculous. We really aren't as stupid as you think we are you know. I live in Michigan, didn't cast a vote for Clinton OR Obama, but if there's a redo, I'll make sure Clinton gets my vote. Too much nastiness coming from the Obama supporters, it is you, supporters of BO that don't seem to be following your candidates lead.

Everyone seems to forget that at the time the primaries were held, John Edwards was still in the race. If they had been held within party rules, there is no telling the impact that third candidate would have made. So, how do they account for that or doesn't he count?

Democratic National committee I do not want to hear about you complaining about the republican party's disenfranchisement of voters in any more elections. You lost that right when you decided to disenfranchise the voters of michigan and florida.
YOu are the worst of hyprocrits.
Why should we want to allow the idiots in new hampshire and Iowa continually choose the presidential candidates for our party? Why shouldn't we have a voice? The whole DNC should be replaced if they do not seat the delgations.

Is there one sane person(besides a few party bigwigs) who thinks revoting Florida & Michigan, spending oh say 50 million in the process, not to mention the money the campaigns will be forced to shell out, just to reach a 53 – 47 split in the vote and essentially change nothing in the popular vote, elected delegates or status quo of the Democractic Race? I'm a life long Florida resident and I hear the folks who say my vote didn't count or I didn't vote because I knew it didn't count and I realize that we had no say in moving the primaries up or in handing out the penalty by the DNC, but somewhere along the way the insanity of the situation must stop. Split the delegates of each state 45% / 45% with the remaining 10% free to vote for the canidate of their choice. This option will save the 80 million, maintain the status quo, make the vote of each state matter, prevent us from having to endure the chaos of a hastily called revote and any aftermath and stops the insanity that none of the voters from either state brought upon themselves.

As a Michigan voter, I will protest at the steps of my capital if they allow the votes to be counted as is. 40% of our state voted uncommitted, rather than voting for Hillary Clinton, and those were the votes of the people who actually came out. I did not vote that day because I was told my vote would not count. I can guarantee you that the votes as they stand now do not represent the will of the people of Michigan (and probably not Florida either).

Also, can we move on from this race thing about states being split racially in votes. How about votes being split gender wise? I can guarantee you that if you look at the primary results the percentage splits of females who voted for HRC and the splits of blacks who voted for Barack are similar. Why is it ok to vote by your gender but not your race? Oh...and by the way...I am a white, female who is a supporter of Barack Obama...because of his stance on issues.

If Florida does a re-vote, the ballots should not be counted by a private firm as desired by Senator Nelson (a Clinton activist). Obama volunteers and Clinton volunteers should participate in the counting, given Florida's banana republic voting history.

Interesting that Michigan is dragging its feet on a revote, now that polls are showing that the candidates are tied, with Obama likely to pick up steam over time. Nice for Hillary that both the governors of Florida and Michigan are doing everything they can to make sure she wins.

jUST COUNT THE FLORIDA VOTE .. it doesnt make sense not to! everyone was on the ballot. over 3 million came out! more then ever before in the state of FL. SO WHY NOT!!!

do a re count in michigan, count the florida . GIve me 1 good reason not to make florida count! 1 reason

Everyone was on the ballot, no one campaigned there, Completely FAIR

SORRY HILLARY>>>>50/50. That is the best that should be offered considering YOUR CAMPAIGN DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE WON AFTER SUPER TUESDAY !!!! YOU NOR YOUR"SUPER DELEGATES" have a right to dictate what terms are acceptable because thats what you want!!!! I do not recall anyone giving the control of this party to the CLINTON'S !!!

Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams released an open letter to her counterpart on the Obama campaign, David Plouffe, saying that both the Michigan and Florida votes — which were not recognized by the party — "were fair and should be honored."

How in the world can she say that vote in which she was the only name on the ballot was FAIR??? Hillary is such a sleazy politician..

"were fair and should be honored"?? What is that campaign smoking? Do they honestly believe anyone outside the Clinton campaign will rationally conclude that Michigan was "fair" when Obama wasn't even on the ballot??

Clinton's campaign is irrational quite often, but this notion is just ridiculously absurd.

PS – go ahead and count Florida as is, it'll barely put a dent in Obama's pledged delegate lead.

I live in Florida, I voted regardless because I wanted to be heard. Why should my vote not count because a Republican Governor ok'd the move up of the Primary? Do I not matter? How ironic that it always comes down to Florida? This is not an issue of Clinton vs Obama, it is clearly Dem vs. Rep and if our votes don't count will can just hand the presidency to Mr. McCain.

All of you Clinton bashers want to disillusion millions of other voters cause this will put your preacher out of the nomination. The truth is that if this is not resolved Hillary will take it to court and win.

They cant not count those votes, its illegal ultimately and they can prove Obama campaigned because of his ad run in Florida. Hillary never campaigned there. Imagine the court awarding her ALL of Florida's delegates cause Obama broke the rules?

I can't wait!

Hillary Clinton 2008

I know it's been said a million times before, but this is un–be–lievable. I lose more respect for Billary and her top-notch, state-of-the-art, can't-lose team every day, and she should question whether loaning herself $5 million is going to be enough to finance the repairs to her damaged ego. Rules are great, until you're getting popped for breaking them. Spitzer who?!

Meanwhile, pa4hillary, as far as "Gerard Ferraro's" comments go, I'm as white as the snow pounding Ohio, and I would vote again and again for Obama. Why? Because–even though he's human and makes mistakes–he's a.) open about them; b.) at least TRYING to run a better, more positive campaign; and c.) is NOT HILLARY CLINTON. Oh, and he's black...get real. Maybe we should say the same about Gen. Powell.

That's the message the MAJORITY of Americans are sending you, Clinton folks. Please keep your arms and legs inside the tram at all times, and leave your ridiculously battered egos and racist and sexist and moronic comments at the door. Thank you for riding Obama Air. Next stop–1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Seat the Florida delegation only after Clinton concedes the nomination. She is well behind at this point, and cannot win without this type of shenanigans in trying to "count" votes that even she had agreed, in advance, would not count.

I feel that a re-vote in either Florida or Michigan is going to set a precedent that the Democratic Party does not want. If these states are granted the re-vote, then what is going to stop all of the other states in the country from moving up their respective primaries or caucuses? If this happens, these states will argue past practice and the whole candidate election process will be in shambles.

DEMOCRATS ARE ACTING REALLY STUPID!

If we do a re-election in the 2 states, what will happen in 2012 when we need to vote again ?? maybe all will have their votes in jan ??

Fire the 2 states leaders !!!!!! Maybe HRC can be GOV of both states.. Just a little change and fixing a few rules..

Is not the democractic party ,is the republican governors fault.
My suggestion the DNC should seat delegates 50/50 and move on.

You are standing before a judge. Your honor, I feel cheated and disenfranchised. I am appalled that you State Trooper not only had the audacity to stop me, but went over the top in giving me a ticket. Yes, I saw the speed limit sign that said 55 MPH. However, I wanted to get home a little quicker, so I felt 75 MPH was appropriate. Just because the 55 MPH sped limit is the law and has been so for a long time is irrelevant in my opinion. In fact I think the system was in error from the start for even enacting such a law. This is America, not some communist country. Who has the right to tell me how fast I can drive?

Doesn't make a bit of sense, does it? Neither does allowing for a revote!!!!

What about the people in those states who did not vote because they were told their votes would not count. These politicians make me sick. All of their dirty laundry is being aired and they didn't see it coming.

So, if they count th votes then the people of Florida and Michigan were lied to...but that's probably okay, because that's what politicians do!

"The more we play together
Together, together
The more we play together
The happier we'll be.

Florida and Michigan democratic leadership violated the rules of the national party a year and a half ago. They knew all along they would not have any delegates if they had their election in January 2008. Now Senator Nelson is trying to fix the problem to save his job and to help his longtime buddies Hillary and Bill Clinton. I hope the states can figure out something with the DNC so that the voters of FL and MI can be "heard."

Obama has played by the rules and would win a battle in Michigan and would tie Clinton in Florida, so new contests won't change much except give the network news organizations more coverage.

boy i am sure getting SICK of the cheap shots every one keeps taking Hillary .I never even herd of Obama be for this elections started .now every on thinks he is some kind a JFK .I think not !!!

For Hillary Clinton, what is important ? Party, Nation or Win ?

If the Clinton Campaign thinks that her Florida delegates were "fairly" chosen then that is proof of moral turpitude, and she is not fit to be President. Besides, was the brother she talked about Tony Rodham? Isn't he still under investigation for taking a $125,000 bribe in order for the Clinton's to pardon the Gregorys who were Felons?
She raised Topnuy's name, so now she ought to clarify and reveal all the documents pertaing to the Gregory-Rodham case.

Hey polly molly?

How about Obama releasing all the documents and records and meetings that he had with Rezko? At least Hillary's tax documents have always been given to a public governemtn agency. Too bad you can't say that about your double-talk candidate of speeches and no solutions!

For Hillary Clinton, what is important ? Part, Nation or Win ?

I wonder what the Clintons would be saying if Obama would have tried and won the 2 states. I'm sure they wouldn't be asking for the votes to count and would DEMAND a Re-Vote! I bet Hillari(ous) would even offer to pay from her own pocket!

What a sleazy campain she has run... .something Americans should be so proud of!

There is really a simple, yet fair solution to this problem. The PROBLEM: Florida and Michigan chose to move their primaries up , even though they knew it was against the rules. SOLUTION: Florida and Michigan are accountable for their actions and should face the consequences. You open this door and every state will come up with their own rules and agendas to get their point accross. KEEP THE DOOR CLOSED on FLORIDA and MICHIGAN.

Florida and Michigan consituents should sue Howard Dean for committing a crime against democracy!!! It is unconstitutional to exclude any US citizen from participating in this democratic process!!!All votes must count!!!!

I'm starting to think that Rush Limbaugh is right about Democrats' lack of respect for rules. If Michican, Florida and Ms. Clinton get their way, you can say goodbye to this Democrat.

McCain '08?

It's encouraging and refreshing that the split on these CNN threads is about 80-20 in favor of Obama. It shows that only a small majority are falling for the Clinton tactics.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Florida and Michigan violated the rules, they knew the consequences. They were agreed upon before the primary, it's not like the result was a shock.

When you go early to make your state more important, and in doing so violate the rules set forth by your party, and then when your votes suddenly matter... you still broke the rules.

Granting a revote is a dangerous precedent. It would destroy the structure of the Democratic party. It would say to all states in the future, "The rules don't matter." ...

That being said, the only way a revote would make any sense is if candidates campaigned in the state (as they did not in Florida) and both names (Clinton and Obama) were on the ballot in Michigan.

Obama did the responsible thing and removed his name from the Michigan ticket, he should not be penalized for Michigan's flagrant disregard of party rules.

Yes, every vote should counts.. but only in a fair election. Let's make this a fair election.

It has become obvious to me that CNN is now acting as Clinton's mouthpiece. Before, the CNN reporters were acting as Barack's mouthpiece. For this reason, I will continue blogging here to protest all the biased reporting which is intended to "stir the pot." Once the Democratic Convention ends, I will not watch this silly news channel again.

There is a Republican Conspiracy at work, and Florida is still the shenanigan playground since the 1876 election. Governor Crist is a hypocrite because he knows the Republicans wanty Hillary to be the nominee so they could implement a plan devised since 2005. Republicans MUST get Hillary nominated at all costs, by hook or crook or any manipulation of the system. If he wants the Florida voters to be counted, then that must be all the Florida voters, because more Democrats stayed home than those who voted. There is no integrity here at all. Now they want a mail-in ballott. How openly manipulative. They know that there are hundreds of thousands of Black voters who have trouble reading, and they also know that in this election mail-in ballots would be stolen and disappear by the time they leave the Post Office. Again, there is no integrity. What a shame to defraud the Florida Blacks who may vote this time for Obama in order to offset the skulldugery and conspiracy of the February election.
Tell Governor Crist to tell the truth, that he really doesn't care for all the Floridians casting a vote for the candidate of their choice, because, even though he is Republican, his choice is Hillary. He should tell us why that is?

Everyone in the DNC deserves their say. If Obama was in the position of Hillary, he would be saying the same thing. These are two major swing states, and they are important in determining a nominee who can win the general election. Absolutely, there should be a revote. The people in Florida and Michigan are critical for our party and have every right to be heard!

It has become obvious to me that CNN is now acting as Clinton's mouthpiece. Before, the CNN reporters were acting as Barack's mouthpiece. For this reason, I will continue blogging here to protest all the biased reporting which is intended to "stir the pot." Once the Democratic Convention ends, I will not watch this silly news channel again.

Wednesday morning, Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams released an open letter to her counterpart on the Obama campaign, David Plouffe, saying that both the Michigan and Florida votes — which were not recognized by the party — "were fair and should be honored."

LOL, this is a totally different story than what the Hillary camp was saying when they were trying to win IOWA. The votes in Florida and Michigan were incomplete because both states violated rules that they agreed to AND because the DNC overreacted. If they were serious about their punishments, they should have immediately lowered the number of delegates requried to win.

The DNC should have allowed campaigning in both states by Obama and Clinton instead of how they handled it. The states screwed this up first, it was compounded by the DNC. The Republicans weren't much better, but at least the allowed half to count.

1.7 million Florida Dems voted. I was one of them and I voted for Obama. In this day of national media, to say that Obama didn't do better here because he was not as well known as Hillary Clinton is poppycock. Everyone knew who Obama was. Obama drew 30% in Florida in Jan 2008. HRC got about 50% and Edwards got the remainder.

Furthermore, there was a controversial constitutional amendment on the ballot on 1-29. Dems who claim to have stayed home because their votes "wouldn't count" are lynig or are stupid.

Let the Florida results stand. Seat the delegates. HRC still can't win.

The Republicans is the Florida Legislature were the ones that voted to stage their primary early. .....probably because they knew it would get the delegates censured and to create the firestorm in the Democratic party that it has. Isn't it also strange that the governor of Michigan...a Clinton supporter, made sure Hillary's name was the only name on the ballots during their primary...even though it supposedly wasn't going to count? Hillary's behind is resorting to anything dirty and underhanded.

92% of black voters went for Obama yesterday

44% of TOTAL voters were African American

So... simple math he started the day with +40%

Go and try to catch up……

I would like to see if ... In Pennsylvania similar thing happen to Hillary...

Ok... let’s say that she gets 70% of White voters… well get ready and

expect Jesse Jackson to protest this vote claiming racism...

Really! Who has been voting along racial lines since the beginning of the campaign????

Florida and Michigan should count 2008!

P.

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For the last time Hillary did not campaign in Florida or Michigan. She came to Florida after the voting was over. Obama campaigned by putting ads on TV and then said oops, I am sorry. He should be penalized as he and only he went against the rules.

Geraldine Ferraro comment is interesting, I guess the reason Hillary Clinton is receiving so many delegates is because she is white and a woman.

When will America move past blamimg race and sex for a person's accomplishments.

Oh! Obama was not campaigning personally in Florida. He only spent 1.3 million in advertising.

I believe Michigan needs a revote. However, Florida had all the candidates names on the ballot. Obama was the only Candidate running campaign ads. when he shouldn't have been. So talk about playing by the rules. After last nights primaries looks like race is starting too raise it's nasty head. NOT GOOD!!!!

I agree for a re-vote in Florida and Michigan, however Hilliary needs to realize that she is not going to get more delegates than Obama. She needs to drop out of the race because she is not going to win in November because of the damage she has done to the Democrat Party.

I read in the Detroit News today, that Obamas campaign doesn't trust mail in re due of the Michigan Primary. He want the delegates split 50/50. I voted in Michigan in January . Obama choose to keep his name off the ballots along with Edwards. So, I feel leave the votes as is or re-do them. He left his name on in Florida, so they should not have to re-do them. Obama is looking not to count Michigan votes only to help himself.

Clearly by saying that we should stick to the rules and disenfranchise the voters of Michigan and Florida because they thought that they should somehow have a say in the nomination doesn't sound very unifying and uniting to me. If Barak can't unify the democrats by being a man and saying seat the delegates "as is," then how would he ever think that he was going to unify Republicans and Independents behind his speeches not solutons campaign? Good luck Obama supporters!

If the DNC does not recognize the delegates of Florida and Michigan based upon the votes that already Occured, then I will change my party affiliation and vote Republican!

Way to unify Obama-the majority of Americans behind McCain!

People like her and Bill, and many Democrats who claim to be so civil rights and human rights, are not so. Just like Spitzer, these are a bunch of sad people who get to power and find themselves so unhappy then end up doing what they do.
I agree with many of the writers here, Junior 4 you, you are right. None wants to call it for what it is, simply because the Clintons held such a high place none believes Bill did what he did, none sees that Clinton voted for the War, none cares that she is the one who talked to the Canadians, none cares to say that in the democratic party there are very racist individuals who when it works forthem and their personal political carreers then they are for helping minorities blah blah, blah, but at the end they dont walk the talk. there is one posting here, which I could not agree more with, one that said (and i quote you ) "Sen. Clintons new campaign strategy: RACISM" this is very clear and just wait, she has just started. She does not denounce what Ferraro said, did not denounce what Eliot did, where does she stand? she knows that if she denuonces this she looses two votes ( superdelegates or delegates not sure which one.) But this is very shameful and these Women, Clinton and Ferraro have no place in our politics!!!Shame on y ou Clinton Clan

Most people of Florida and Mich did not even know they state was braking the rule's they never told me they did that and i think they didn't inform a lot of voter's to that so how can you say the voet's don't coun't if the local Dem commity did somthing wrong they should have to pay for re-vote not the tax payers and above all count these voters !!!!!

Stop all the bickering and whinning about race, gender and what's fair. As a democrat and Obama supporter, let's do a revote in Florida and Michigan. If Clinton beats Obama in a revote, so what.? Will that propel her to the nomination....I think not. Oh, I forgot...she and her supporters still have that illogical argument that she won the BIG STATES. I thought she was campaigning for president of the United States; not president of Big States.

Go away Hillary.

By the way, perception is everything and don't be fooled. The republicans are salivating over an opportunity to DESTROY Clinton with all her baggage if she's the nominee. Do a fact check...from missing people, to linked murders, to Bill's drug smuggling in Arkansa, to Bill's $136 million uranimum deal, middle eastern money dontated to the library, lies about her foreign policy experience, corrupted donars....the list is infinite.

I wonder why Hillary wasn't screaming about FL and MI prior to the TX and OH primaries....could it be, she didn't believe that she would need them!! But now all of sudden, their voices should be heard...they voted and she won...are you kidding me??? First of all, all of the candidates were suppose to remove their names from the ballots in MI....of course, Hillary didn't adhere to the rules that she agreed to...and in FL, millions of voters didn't vote because they knew their votes weren't going to count...but lets just count them anyway!

I can't believe any American could consider this fair...and the state legislatures screwed this up and now want to put the blame on the DNC...get real!! They need to pay for any re-vote or else in upcoming years other states will use this is a precedence to break the rules!!!

I do not trust O'bama. I have not from the beginning. Its not because he is Black or that is is a man. Although you will somehow make it racial when it is not. He makes a good speech and everyone is ready to follow him. I learnt to trust my instinct. It is almost always right. When someone states a fact that he is only where he is because of his color not meaning to be racial. It's a fact. Just like you said he won most of Mississippi Black votes which is a fact not ment to be racial.

Why spend Millions of dollars on a re- vote. Since Hillary and Obama have split the vote in every state split the delegates .... Even with these delegates counted I still don;t think Hillary can catch up SSSOOOOO
wwwwwwwwwwwwwHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY
is every one suddenly back paddling with this. two weeks ago every one was against it It won't solve anything Clinton was ahead in every state unti;l Obama campaigns why does anyone think this will be diferent It just gives Clinton more time to destroy the Democratic Party .......GOOD IDEA I ........
WWWHHHYYYYYY
Spend al this money ( oh that's right Hillary supporters and Hillary Have spoken)
Who exactly were the folks that originally agreed to these terms show us the original people who said this was a good idea or agreement

Why bother since Hillary will drag this thing further into the mud and neither candidate will win . thanks Hillary

Just cause she' s used to life in the gutter doesn't mean she should have taken the whole party there .....

Florida should stand as it is. Broke the rule and learn from it. If the Clinton's want to put up money (I think they were offering $15,000.) to do a redo with Obama putting up another $15,000., let them instead donate their $15,000. to the needy since Hillary claims she has done so much in Louisiana.
She is whining and will do anything to win this race. She has completely turned me off and "Bill" needs to get lost. They are a power hungry team and should be run out of town.

It is not the people of Florida and Michigan who broke the rules, it is the party leaders and elected officials. Punish them. Take their superdelegate status. That would hurt the candidate I support (Hillary Clinton) but it would punish the people who deserve it. Do we really think that the voters in Florida and Michigan are going to vote Democrat in Novemeber if they are not counted in the primary. People keep talking about the rules. They forget the other half of the equation. Rules are only meaningful if you can identity the people who break them and punish those people. The type of collective punishment on display here is something they do in dictatorships.

Obviously, Florida and Michigan have to be rehabilitated. Since CNN and others mistakenly have listed Clinton as the winner (with no delegates awarded, which is the only reason for the election) and Clinton did not obey the National Democratic Party and participated in each state, she has a significant advantage. Obama, if you really are the candidate to united people, suck it up and just agree.

Now here is how to do it.

The voters in each state, and the rest of the country, need to know how this colossal mess happened so the 2 candidates need to meet for 2 hours and agree on 1 person to write what actually happened and make it available to anyone who wants it on the internet, TV, etc. If they cannot agree, Clinton and Obama each put 10 names in a hat and 1 name is drawn by a Republican or some other equally disinterested or hostile person (maybe the national chairperson or even McCain would enjoy this job) or in a similar neutral manner.

The 2 elections should be the last ones of the campaign year. In school if you butt in line for ice cream, you were sent to the back of the line. Things don’t change for childish adults.

The superdelegates of each state must be allowed to vote but they have some responsibility for the problem. So they are automatically divided in half mathematically (11 in Florida and 12 in Michigan to each candidate) until the convention and then they cannot vote until the 2nd round of voting. At that time, they can vote their heart.

How should each candidate be allowed to campaign? Only the candidates themselves should tell the voters their policies in person and on TV during 1 week. Each spends Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday in one state and Thursday, Friday and Saturday in the other. There is a single Sunday television appearance where each candidate speaks straight for 30 minutes. Who goes first is determined by a flip of a coin. On Monday, both states vote at the same time. No other person who is officially from either campaign can participate in any manner and should not even appear in the state (either now or during that week). No television ads from either campaign can be specifically targeted to affect Michigan or Florida or have anyone from those 2 states in an ad even now.

And at the end, the central committee must prevent this from happening again. I think the best way is to have a bingo-like lottery for 5 to 10 dates of state voting so each state has a chance to be first. No more games. Sorry Iowa and New Hampshire, you have had the monopoly of being first just too long.

To Craig
When you jump the gun you have to face the consequences.Off course
your vote won't count when the rules are not obeyed.It is just about obeying the rules which FL & MI didn't do.Let's call spade spade,American DEMOCRATS have spoken & wisely for that matter:they surely prefer & want CHANGE.

OBAMA'08 &'12

Re-vote or don't seat. They knew the rules and decided to ignore them, so accept the consequences. Even an eight year old child can get that concept!

How in the world would they do a mail-in primary in Michigan. We do not have the ability to designate a party on our registration form. There have been so many forclosures here, how are they going to find people. Maybe they will just mail it to every address in the state.

How can an election be fair if your not allowed to campaign?

Re vote in Florida after breaking the rules?!
Imagine if Russia had done that!
USA the whole world is watching.
Racism, political pandering, deception, manipulation, disinformation, lies, cover ups:
Welcome to the Whitehouse.

The last statement in your article above is not quite accurate. Senator Obama did not "physically" campaign in the State of Florida but there were Campaign ads on TV prior to the Florida Primary. Does this not constitute "Campaigning"? Did he actually break his pledge?

For Clinton to get Michigan and Florida delegates counted when other candidates were excluded because of her two faced double standards would just look like her using a Jim Crow law like trick to her benefit. If she had any decency (not much chance there from present behavior) she should request a re-vote or that every vote that wasn't FOR her should be counted AGAINST her. Split the delegates evenly that way (as her margins were small) and then both states can be counted in effect. That would still mean she was down on delegates overall, and would ultimately mean she still would have to appeal to super delegates or admit that she can't win the national vote. She's already over 10 states behind Obama in wins

Clinton and her delusional backers believe that the "Ends Justifies The Means" which anyone who knows history is the gateway to evil. Clinton should stick by her word and either back the exclusion of Florida and Michigan she agreed to OR she should go for a re-vote. She cannot have their votes unfairly as this would just invalidate any possible win. If she got the nomination by such dirty tricks no one who backed Obama would support her and McCain would win a landslide.

I don't doubt the sincerity of many Hillary supporters but they are fooling themselves if they can win the nomination cleanly and ultimately they are utterly insane if they think after that Hillary can win the Presidency.

FL and MI think they can play political leapfrog and get away with it. FL and MI have A LOT of delegates! Too many to be distributed in the first stages of the primary elections. FL voted for this maverick governor, we will have to live under his rule. Gov Crist has let down his constituents.

Typical, first they say they are committed to getting the delegates seated but in the next breath they say they do not want a mail in or redo. Sort of contradict themselves don't they. Oh, I know only their vote counts. Well, we know who does not want a revote and they will find themselves out of office when the time comes. Every person who took their time off to vote should be counted and it is sorta funny that Obama once said every vote should count but now he changes his mind (could be because he thinks he might loose)!

There should not be a re-vote. Just seat the delegates.

Um Hillary Clinton campaigned 4 times in FL using certain appearance type loopholes. So it is very poor reporting to claim no major canidate campaigned in FL. Just the opposite, Hillary campaigned there to gain the vote to set up this stunt.

Clinton show your tax returns, she is pretending that it is not an issue...............
The iguana

Our USA is built on competition. The competition/event has rules which both side must abide by or else get accessed a penalty. (Watch any sporting event)

So why are we even considering a re-do or accepting the results "as is" when the rules were set a year ago. Where was the outrage then? Now that one candidate would benefit if the rules had not been in place we what to change the rule in favor of that person?

So the message is, if you can’t win by the rules use all your power and influence to change the rules.

So I guess this year if Tiger Woods hits a bad tee shot, misses’ a putt, shanks a shot out of the ruff in any of the big 4 majors, he gets a re-do on his shot!! If not then he could use his influence and power and say if I don’t get a re-do I will start my own tour.

No re-do’s it is not in the spirit of fair competition. Plus what type of message does it send to the states in 2012 you can hold your caucus/primary anytime you want and if the race is close where you can be the deciding factor you get a re-do!

I'm sick and tired hearing about this re-vote. Each state went against the DNC. Let each state go to Obama and Clinton and have them raise the money for the re-vote and the candidate who will not help, the voters will know which candidate is against the will of the voters and is more worried about themself then the people.

the notion of 1.7 democrats in Florida are so stupid that we went to vote in records ill-informed and made the wrong choice is totally moronic. We saw the debates; we read the paper and watched the news. We know what's going on and we just want the votes counted.

Most people in FL and MI didn't know who the other candidates were until much later in the process. I didn't know who Obama was until Feb 4th. Did they move up their elections in order to give Clinton a name brand advantage?

How can they tell use are votes don't coun't thats like telling us to go back to days of segregation I hope we have not gone back to this as all people have the right to vote !!!!

Another Clinton stunt, show us your 2006 tax returns Hillary

Perplexing how Florida and Michigan now are trying to get seated at the Democratic National Convention. The DNC established the rules; both states agree to the rule; and now that Hillary is behind in popular and delegate votes, they want to change the rules. You can't have your cake and eat it to; however all of this has been concluded at the expense of the American voter, who were "hoodwinked." I believe that you are going to experience for the first time a Democratic National Convention which will only be represented by 48 states.............times are truly changing.

The rules have to be strictly followed.Hence,there should be any re-vote in FL & MI.Just why can't somebody agree Obama is coasting home to victory.

Yeah... all those votes were fair. I mean, it's not like Obama's name wasn't on one of the ballots at all, or that he didn't campaign in Florida. It's fair for Hillary because she didn't listen to the DNC's ruling. Not only did she keep her name on the ballot in Michigan (with the likes of Mike Gravel and Kucinich, but not Edwards) which was a violation, but she also campaigned in Florida, another violation. I'm not opposed to the re-vote, but honestly, if two states are dumb enough to not heed a strict warning, I'm not sure I want their input for our next president. We all know how good Florida is at conducting elections...

Where was Maggie Williams when her boss agreed to not seating the Florida and Michigan delegates? Changing the rules during the game, it's such a typical strategy nowadays.

"One of your supporters calls my candidate a monster? Shame on you, you should denounce and reject and fire her."

"One of my supporters accuses your candidate of being good for nothing else besides having a dark skin? Well yeah I do not agree but I'll leave it at that."

I find it amazing that the candidate for change actually prefers the old-Washington style of politics that promotes the disenfranchisement of voters because they had the AUDACITY OF HOPE that their states could have an equal say in the nomination process. Barak is supposed to be the candidate of hope, but all Barak hopes for now is that the voters that voted fairly are disenfranchised by old-Washington style anti-democratic rules! That's not change in Washington politics, that's more of the same. Maybe Hillary can ask for a do-over for the states that she didn't do well in as well?

Isn't it amazing that the inspiring man, wants nothing more than to disenfranchise the fair votes that occurred, including the 33% in Florida, who voted for Barak, simply because it's to his political advantage? How pathetic Barak! How very pathetic!

They should have a re-vote, or count the votes from the previous election!!!!

Maggie Williams is full of Clintonology.

You agree that the states would not count before the primaries start and then you want to count them with no strings attached even when Obama didn't introduce himself to Florida and wasn't on the ballot in Michigan.

Maggie, you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.

If this were Obama trying to seat uncontested delegates, you would be at arms against it.

The DNC needs to make the cost of a re-vote and the division this causes Dems in FL and MI to go away. The rules were set and not followed. Edwards was still in the race with Obama and Clinton at the time. We cannot roll back to that point in time. Talk about buyers remorse, Hillary was the frontrunner a year ago across the board and feels entitled to the nomination – she'll tear the party apart until the vanguard of the Party (Dean, DNC, key Supers) come out publically that it is over for her. COST. DIVISION. N0-WIN-SITUATION. Hillary cannot try to increase the margin in every state she's lost. She cannot continue to do re-dos until she wins. She's soooo invested in this that she is somewhat self-delusional. Hillary's peers need to let her get out of this with grace and dignity so it won't erase the legacy that remains for her dedication and service to the public. BUT, she must get out.

MEANWHILE... OBAMA WON THE DELEGATE COUNT IN TEXAS!!!

**********OBAMA WON TEXAS**********

by an estimated 5 delegates over Clinton

What "Big victory" by Hillary? The story is, "Obama Made Huge Inroads Amongst Clinton Base" leading up to Texas and Ohio. Three weeks before, he was way behind. President Bill Clinton and advisor James Carville said she needed to win "big" in both contests (thus, the post-primary rhetoric) OR it was OVER. Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news: HILLARY - IT IS OVER!!!

When will Candy Crowley and Wolf Blitzer and the majority of CNN's "best election team" get off the Hillary bandwagon and become objective arbitors of this election and process, holding candidates accountable for their own words and representations? Who is going to interview President Clinton and ask him to deconstruct what has taken place? James Carville the same? Didn't Richardson come out two days before Super Tuesday and say whoever was ahead in pledged delegates after Super Tuesday was the presumptive nominee and the other should drop out? Who has followed up on that?

Rather than devoting hours to salacious sex scandals, can CNN at least devote a few minutes to some HARD NEWS????

I just can´t understand the whole discussion taking place in the US. There were rules, FL und Mi broke them, they have to take responsability for their actions. Given that both candidates want them to take part in the national convention, they have to re-vote in any way. It´s impossible, that they get away with this rule-breaking behavior! Even worse: Those potential democrativ voters that stayed at home in january (15./29.) because they knew, their vote would not be counted will be punished, if the election result would be accepted two months later and their correct behavior of respecting the democratic parties rules would lead them to be not allowed in taking their part in the nomination process.
The onlpossibility is to let the re-vote or caucus or whatever but it would be totally unfair to just seat them at the convention.

Please apologize my bad english, as I am german. Thanks!

Both the Michigan and Florida votes "were fair and should be honored"? I can see Florida, but Michigan? What planet is the Clinton campaign coming from to call that fair?

Voting by mail would be devasting. We need to let the DNC handle it.

What else is new? A big racial divide was shown in FL, NV, SC, AL, AR, TN, MS, OH, and others. The media is focusing on this now, because? After NH obama and the media played the race card to the tee divided the Democratic party, the AA community has been voting completely on race identity, with the exception of a few and to those who haven't thank you.

Of course, the Clinton camp wants the current tallies in FL and MI to count. A re-vote could drastically change the outcome. God forbid, some voters would want to alter their vote. Again, HRC will say or do anything to win, even if the Democratic Party self-implodes. Just like HRC campaigning for John McCain. I wonder if people look at the Dem's party mascot in a negative light.

Obama '08

Is the Clinton campaign serious?! They think that the votes in Michigan were "fair and should be honored", when Obama wasn't even on the BALLOT?!

I don't know how anyone can trust this campaign – they will do and say anything to tear this party apart.

Spli the delegates between the candidates. That will cost Michigan and Florida nothing. But obviously, it won't make Hillary and her supporters happy. But rules are rules. Without them, we have corruption, choas, and mahyem. Do we let murderers or thieves off the hook? Is NY going to let Spitzer off the hook? No. No. No. So why should Michigan and Florida be treated any differently? And who's going to stop other states from doing in the future? I wonder if the citizens feel the same way as Nelson or even the Florida State Democratic party leaders? My guess is no. They were silenced because of their political leaders.

CAn we all do a re vote? please stick by the rules, I am sure the Clintons are behind this. Can anyone explain to the voters, how this whole thing went down, who approved it, who supported it and who over all agreed to stick to the rules and has not?
CNN please provide all the facts, rules and details. you keep stirring this but do not provide with the facts of how this whole thing started. that is not fair reporting.
thank you,

concerned voter.

Anything for Hillary. Hillary said the contests wouldn't count last year and made no mention of counting in her Florida "victory" speach. The only fair options are to seat 50-50, or to cut the delegates in half like the republicans did and run caucuses which are CHEAPER.

The republicans will say we can't manage a budget if we hold another election.

Of course if the roles were reversed, ie, Hillary leading, then there would be no discussion of a revote.

I think minorities understand moving the bar, changing the rules to keep the oppression up.

Yes they should be seated and Florida should at least be seated as is. Michigan should re-vote. But, Its Obama's fault for not leaving his name on the ballot. If I recall, leaders in the States part were wanting people to vote Un-Committed as their support for Obama. Guess that did not work. As for Florida, both names were on ballot. They had been in the news for months and people knew enough about them to make a decision. And this crap that Obama supporters did not come out because they thought it would not count means nothing. HE, Obama was telling people to go out and vote and was running ads in the state of Florida. We could also say that Hillary voters did not come out also because they thought their vote did not count also. But, We could say a lot. What we can say for a fact is that Hillary WON the state of Florida and if WE the Democrats want to win the election, We need Florida and Michigan.

Anything for Hillary. Hillary said the contests wouldn't count last year and made no mention of counting in her Florida "victory" speach. The only fair options are to seat 50-50, or to cut the delegates in half and run caucuses which are CHEAPER.

The republicans will say we can't manage a budget if we hold another election.

Of course if the roles were reversed, ie, Hillary leading, then there would be no discussion of a revote.

I think minorities understand moving the bar, changing the rules to keep the oppression up.

Nice move Clintons.

What they are doing is coming out in public saying that they will accept a recount. However, they have their supporters in the party in FL opposing it – that way they can come out and say "we want a re-vote but the FL democratic party will not allow it and it is not fair on the people of FL not to get their vote counted"

At the beginning of this primary, Clinton was confident of the win and agreed not to seat the delegates from FL – she did not ever imagine they will be necessary. Now that she is losing suddenly the FL voters count. What part of con game don't you folks understand. Clinton does not give a hoot about the voters in FL and MI and it obvious to my 13 year old.

I'm sorry. Is Maggie Williams crazy? Do any of these hacks know how ridiculous they sound? I have a master's degree in campaign management, and I am absolutely appalled by the way this campaign is being run for Hillary Clinton. Who are these hacks? They're supposed to be some of the best and brightest, and I have yet to understand any moves they've made since primary season began. If this is the best staff HRC can come up with, there's absolutely no good indication her Presidential staff would be any better.

Ms. Williams, you cannot seat delegates as-is because of two fundamental reasons: only one name appeared on the Michigan ballot and proper campaigning was not had in Florida (or Michigan for that matter). In what alternate universe is this scenario favorable for anyone, including Mrs. Clinton?

I'm just going to go ahead and say what I always said to my parents when something was way too obvious for words.. DUH.

what is obama going to do if or should i say when he can't win these big states? will he then bring race into it, or cry about how it wasn't done fair? and, i agree, if it was not for his skin color he would not be where he is.

There should be no revote because in hindsight it is convenient. After the primaries have concluded in June, the DNC should gather the super delegates to settle who is going to be the nominee. The would settle the issues prior to the election and maintain the purpose of super delegates as elected representatives. People sometimes forget our society is not a democracy, but a republic. The popular vote is influential, but not deciding.

OBama always sez every vote counts.
Or is that unless its going to go to Hillary

Florida Dem here:

I don't want a revote, and I don't want our delegates to "count" in deciding the nominee. What's done is done: every candidate agreed ahead of time to these rules, and it's BS to change them now. Let the delegates be seated after the 'big business" is taken care of, so they can help with the party platform stuff.

I find it amazing that not only are the Florida Democrats duking it out with the DNC, they are now turning on each other. A few months ago, it was FDP/Nelson/House Dems vs. Dean/DNC, now it's a crazy free-for-all. This reminds me of WWE's Friday Night SmackDown!

Florida and Michigan knew the consequences before they held their primaries. So why are we even considering allowing their delegates to count at the convention. And I am sure Hillary things that is the best thing....she is the only nominee that still held press conferences and rallies and whatnot in Florida, in direct conflict of what the DNC asked her to do! Others didn't rally in Florida....so why does hillary think just because she won they should count? If another candidate had one those states, I BET she would be doing all she could to ensure they were disenfranchised.

YIp they should be honored. And the rules that Harold Ickes (who is working in HIllary's campaign)I helped make and now is trying to change should stand as written. You can't go back and correct blunders once they are blunders. This is just like HIllary said about Mississippi – they aren't important and necessary. Oops! She got a little behind and now Fla and MI are needed. Let us hope that Pennsylvania is won by Barack. Good news is that she campaigned in Wyoming and Mississippi and STILL LOST. She hasn't yet figured out when Bill campaigns for her or anyone else they lose. When Penns hear about 200,000 jobs in NY that she promised and didn't deliver, the Canadian Naftagate was from her camp, she criticized Barack for Rezko but suddenly Spitzker, her superdelegate and one who was to support the superdelegates behind HER had a little problem, plus her dissing of Mississippi as backward, G Ferraros comments that she is accepting (she is not getting her off her campaign) plus I imagine plenty more to come because Hillary doesn't know any better. By the Barack should be firmly ahead both in respectful behavior and delegates and the popular vote. He gained over 98000 votes yesterday alone.

Clinton will cheat her way to victory. It's sad how nothing ever really changes in this country.

The superdelegates are going to decide this race. That's all there is to it. End of discussion!!! Let the arm twisting begin?

This whole thing is incredibly messed up. I'm an FL voter and I didn't even bother voting simply because I knew my vote wouldn't count. NOW they're saying it WILL?! I call BS, and I swear if the democratic party decides to honor the votes as they stand now WITHOUT letting the MANY people like me have their voices be heard – I WILL vote republican.

What a crock from the Hillary camp ......

it simple. I'm from mo. , if Florida and michigan votes don't count.
i leave the democrat party.
end of story...............
it's up to the dnc.
they count as part of America or i vote for the republican...........
dems cant win without these two states.
disinfranchise them, you disinfranchise me.......

Missouri

Hallelujah! Sanity is slowly creeping in!

A re-vote is a complete waste of time and money. It will not alter the present situation (Obama ahead of Clinton in the delegate count) and will only postpone the inevitable (superDs will have to bite the bullet choose one or the other). And in the meantime, the party will tear itself apart.

Floridians voted for the government hacks that torpedoed their primary. I think that the state should finance the re-vote, or seat delegates 50/50 or as a reflection of the national popular vote.

These folks shouldn't be disenfranchised, but continual protraction of the vote or any chance of tampering must be avoided.

I'm sure Maggie Williams thinks it's fair... considering Obama never campaigned in Florida, and his name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan...

Who knows how many voters for either Obama OR Clinton would have shown up if: 1) they thought the primary would matter, which at the time of the vote, many people knew it would not count, and 2) Obama's name was actually on the ballot in Michigan, and 3) he actually got to campaign, seeing as how everywhere he campaigns, his poll numbers jump anywhere from 10 to 30% relative to Clinton.

The Michigan and Florida were "fair"? The definition of fairness has nothing to do with breaking party rules!

If the Florida and/or Michigan delegates are seated based on the original voting procedure the Dems can kiss the Whitehouse goodbye. It's that simple.

Florida broke the rules. A recount would only encourage other states to follow their footsteps and move their primary's up in the calendar.

If Hillary Clinton thinks the Florida and Michigan contests were "fair"- even though the candidates could not even campaign or simply contact voters to ask for their vote- then she should not be our President.

Think about it- her husband ran in 1992 with 95% of Americans having never heard of him. Could he have won primaries without being able to campaign in those states?

She is not fit to be our leader- pure and simple.

Private Clinton supporters should not be allowed to pay for an election. What is this now, "We can pay for elections to be held" what is the precedence for this? The people that should pay should be the politicians in Michigan and Florida who put their constituents rights on the line and loss. No one else should pay. The spin on this is incredible. All of a sudden it is the DNC that is at fault? I think not, the leaders in these two states are the ones at fault and should shoulder all the blame and should be held to come up with a solution and/or the money.

Can't wait to hear what kind of hopeful and unifying words the Obama supporters have to say about this....

I'll through my mail ballot in the trash!

Will Florida ever get its voting right?????