March 12th, 2008
08:58 AM ET
6 years ago

Florida Dems v. Nelson on re-vote

 Florida Dems go head to head with Sen. Nelson.
Florida Dems go head to head with Sen. Nelson.

(CNN) - Tuesday night's statement from Florida's House Democrats stating their opposition to Sen. Bill Nelson's primary re-vote plan came after an unhappy meeting between that group and Nelson's chief of staff earlier in the day, according to a neutral Democratic source familiar with the talks.

A majority of the state's congressional delegation opposes both a primary re-vote and vote-by-mail, and feel Nelson was trying to dictate both without their consent. They gathered again after their unhappy meeting with Nelson's aide and released a statement stating their opposition – a move meant to send a message to the Florida senator that despite his public statements that a deal on terms he's described is imminent, the effort will not be successful if their concerns are not addressed.

"We are committed to working with the DNC, the Florida State Democratic party, our Democratic leaders in Florida, and our two candidates to reach an expedited solution that ensures our 210 delegates are seated," the delegation's statement read. "Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind."

The group is not unified in their objections – but enough are opposed to Nelson's plan to potentially short-circuit the proposal. In order for the plan to be approved, Florida leaders need to sign off before it can be considered by the Democratic National Committee.

Wednesday morning, Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams released an open letter to her counterpart on the Obama campaign, David Plouffe, saying that both the Michigan and Florida votes - which were not recognized by the party - "were fair and should be honored." Williams indicated that a primary re-vote would also be acceptable, and said they were in contact with leaders in both states - including members of Florida's congressional delegation - to ensure that one of those two options occurred.

Florida and Michigan are both weighing options that would allow their delegations to be seated at the party's presidential nominating convention this summer. Both lost their voting privileges because of DNC penalties resulting from their decision to hold their primaries in January, in violation of party instructions. No major presidential candidate campaigned in either state.

–CNN's Dana Bash contributed to this report


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  1. Calvin Roach

    Geraldine Ferraro comment is interesting, I guess the reason Hillary Clinton is receiving so many delegates is because she is white and a woman.

    When will America move past blamimg race and sex for a person's accomplishments.

    March 12, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  2. Susan

    Please do not moderate:

    For the last time Hillary did not campaign in Florida or Michigan. She came to Florida after the voting was over. Obama campaigned by putting ads on TV and then said oops, I am sorry. He should be penalized as he and only he went against the rules.

    March 12, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  3. P

    92% of black voters went for Obama yesterday

    44% of TOTAL voters were African American

    So... simple math he started the day with +40%

    Go and try to catch up……

    I would like to see if ... In Pennsylvania similar thing happen to Hillary...

    Ok... let’s say that she gets 70% of White voters… well get ready and

    expect Jesse Jackson to protest this vote claiming racism...

    Really! Who has been voting along racial lines since the beginning of the campaign????

    Florida and Michigan should count 2008!

    P.

    March 12, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
  4. Oracle 99

    The Republicans is the Florida Legislature were the ones that voted to stage their primary early. .....probably because they knew it would get the delegates censured and to create the firestorm in the Democratic party that it has. Isn't it also strange that the governor of Michigan...a Clinton supporter, made sure Hillary's name was the only name on the ballots during their primary...even though it supposedly wasn't going to count? Hillary's behind is resorting to anything dirty and underhanded.

    March 12, 2008 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  5. Dave

    1.7 million Florida Dems voted. I was one of them and I voted for Obama. In this day of national media, to say that Obama didn't do better here because he was not as well known as Hillary Clinton is poppycock. Everyone knew who Obama was. Obama drew 30% in Florida in Jan 2008. HRC got about 50% and Edwards got the remainder.

    Furthermore, there was a controversial constitutional amendment on the ballot on 1-29. Dems who claim to have stayed home because their votes "wouldn't count" are lynig or are stupid.

    Let the Florida results stand. Seat the delegates. HRC still can't win.

    March 12, 2008 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  6. Gil - California

    Wednesday morning, Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams released an open letter to her counterpart on the Obama campaign, David Plouffe, saying that both the Michigan and Florida votes — which were not recognized by the party — "were fair and should be honored."

    LOL, this is a totally different story than what the Hillary camp was saying when they were trying to win IOWA. The votes in Florida and Michigan were incomplete because both states violated rules that they agreed to AND because the DNC overreacted. If they were serious about their punishments, they should have immediately lowered the number of delegates requried to win.

    The DNC should have allowed campaigning in both states by Obama and Clinton instead of how they handled it. The states screwed this up first, it was compounded by the DNC. The Republicans weren't much better, but at least the allowed half to count.

    March 12, 2008 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  7. Obvious

    It has become obvious to me that CNN is now acting as Clinton's mouthpiece. Before, the CNN reporters were acting as Barack's mouthpiece. For this reason, I will continue blogging here to protest all the biased reporting which is intended to "stir the pot." Once the Democratic Convention ends, I will not watch this silly news channel again.

    March 12, 2008 09:53 am at 9:53 am |
  8. Ben

    Everyone in the DNC deserves their say. If Obama was in the position of Hillary, he would be saying the same thing. These are two major swing states, and they are important in determining a nominee who can win the general election. Absolutely, there should be a revote. The people in Florida and Michigan are critical for our party and have every right to be heard!

    March 12, 2008 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  9. Kenneth Adderley

    There is a Republican Conspiracy at work, and Florida is still the shenanigan playground since the 1876 election. Governor Crist is a hypocrite because he knows the Republicans wanty Hillary to be the nominee so they could implement a plan devised since 2005. Republicans MUST get Hillary nominated at all costs, by hook or crook or any manipulation of the system. If he wants the Florida voters to be counted, then that must be all the Florida voters, because more Democrats stayed home than those who voted. There is no integrity here at all. Now they want a mail-in ballott. How openly manipulative. They know that there are hundreds of thousands of Black voters who have trouble reading, and they also know that in this election mail-in ballots would be stolen and disappear by the time they leave the Post Office. Again, there is no integrity. What a shame to defraud the Florida Blacks who may vote this time for Obama in order to offset the skulldugery and conspiracy of the February election.
    Tell Governor Crist to tell the truth, that he really doesn't care for all the Floridians casting a vote for the candidate of their choice, because, even though he is Republican, his choice is Hillary. He should tell us why that is?

    March 12, 2008 09:54 am at 9:54 am |
  10. Obvious

    It has become obvious to me that CNN is now acting as Clinton's mouthpiece. Before, the CNN reporters were acting as Barack's mouthpiece. For this reason, I will continue blogging here to protest all the biased reporting which is intended to "stir the pot." Once the Democratic Convention ends, I will not watch this silly news channel again.

    March 12, 2008 09:55 am at 9:55 am |
  11. Marc A. Turnes (DeKalb, IL)

    This is a ridiculous argument.

    Florida and Michigan violated the rules, they knew the consequences. They were agreed upon before the primary, it's not like the result was a shock.

    When you go early to make your state more important, and in doing so violate the rules set forth by your party, and then when your votes suddenly matter... you still broke the rules.

    Granting a revote is a dangerous precedent. It would destroy the structure of the Democratic party. It would say to all states in the future, "The rules don't matter." ...

    That being said, the only way a revote would make any sense is if candidates campaigned in the state (as they did not in Florida) and both names (Clinton and Obama) were on the ballot in Michigan.

    Obama did the responsible thing and removed his name from the Michigan ticket, he should not be penalized for Michigan's flagrant disregard of party rules.

    Yes, every vote should counts.. but only in a fair election. Let's make this a fair election.

    March 12, 2008 09:55 am at 9:55 am |
  12. Jay MN

    It's encouraging and refreshing that the split on these CNN threads is about 80-20 in favor of Obama. It shows that only a small majority are falling for the Clinton tactics.

    March 12, 2008 09:57 am at 9:57 am |
  13. Paul

    I'm starting to think that Rush Limbaugh is right about Democrats' lack of respect for rules. If Michican, Florida and Ms. Clinton get their way, you can say goodbye to this Democrat.

    McCain '08?

    March 12, 2008 09:57 am at 9:57 am |
  14. rusty

    Florida and Michigan consituents should sue Howard Dean for committing a crime against democracy!!! It is unconstitutional to exclude any US citizen from participating in this democratic process!!!All votes must count!!!!

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  15. Donna

    There is really a simple, yet fair solution to this problem. The PROBLEM: Florida and Michigan chose to move their primaries up , even though they knew it was against the rules. SOLUTION: Florida and Michigan are accountable for their actions and should face the consequences. You open this door and every state will come up with their own rules and agendas to get their point accross. KEEP THE DOOR CLOSED on FLORIDA and MICHIGAN.

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  16. Dave

    I wonder what the Clintons would be saying if Obama would have tried and won the 2 states. I'm sure they wouldn't be asking for the votes to count and would DEMAND a Re-Vote! I bet Hillari(ous) would even offer to pay from her own pocket!

    What a sleazy campain she has run... .something Americans should be so proud of!

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  17. Politra

    For Hillary Clinton, what is important ? Part, Nation or Win ?

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  18. James, Pennsylvania

    Hey polly molly?

    How about Obama releasing all the documents and records and meetings that he had with Rezko? At least Hillary's tax documents have always been given to a public governemtn agency. Too bad you can't say that about your double-talk candidate of speeches and no solutions!

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  19. BlackProfessor

    If the Clinton Campaign thinks that her Florida delegates were "fairly" chosen then that is proof of moral turpitude, and she is not fit to be President. Besides, was the brother she talked about Tony Rodham? Isn't he still under investigation for taking a $125,000 bribe in order for the Clinton's to pardon the Gregorys who were Felons?
    She raised Topnuy's name, so now she ought to clarify and reveal all the documents pertaing to the Gregory-Rodham case.

    March 12, 2008 09:58 am at 9:58 am |
  20. Politra

    For Hillary Clinton, what is important ? Party, Nation or Win ?

    March 12, 2008 09:59 am at 9:59 am |
  21. mad

    boy i am sure getting SICK of the cheap shots every one keeps taking Hillary .I never even herd of Obama be for this elections started .now every on thinks he is some kind a JFK .I think not !!!

    March 12, 2008 09:59 am at 9:59 am |
  22. Pennsylvania for Obama

    Florida and Michigan democratic leadership violated the rules of the national party a year and a half ago. They knew all along they would not have any delegates if they had their election in January 2008. Now Senator Nelson is trying to fix the problem to save his job and to help his longtime buddies Hillary and Bill Clinton. I hope the states can figure out something with the DNC so that the voters of FL and MI can be "heard."

    Obama has played by the rules and would win a battle in Michigan and would tie Clinton in Florida, so new contests won't change much except give the network news organizations more coverage.

    March 12, 2008 10:00 am at 10:00 am |
  23. TheLeftNut

    "The more we play together
    Together, together
    The more we play together
    The happier we'll be.

    March 12, 2008 10:01 am at 10:01 am |
  24. Disgusted

    What about the people in those states who did not vote because they were told their votes would not count. These politicians make me sick. All of their dirty laundry is being aired and they didn't see it coming.

    So, if they count th votes then the people of Florida and Michigan were lied to...but that's probably okay, because that's what politicians do!

    March 12, 2008 10:02 am at 10:02 am |
  25. Tim, NC

    You are standing before a judge. Your honor, I feel cheated and disenfranchised. I am appalled that you State Trooper not only had the audacity to stop me, but went over the top in giving me a ticket. Yes, I saw the speed limit sign that said 55 MPH. However, I wanted to get home a little quicker, so I felt 75 MPH was appropriate. Just because the 55 MPH sped limit is the law and has been so for a long time is irrelevant in my opinion. In fact I think the system was in error from the start for even enacting such a law. This is America, not some communist country. Who has the right to tell me how fast I can drive?

    Doesn't make a bit of sense, does it? Neither does allowing for a revote!!!!

    March 12, 2008 10:02 am at 10:02 am |
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