March 12, 2008
Posted: 01:30 PM ET
The Obama campaign says Clinton can't compete in key states.
The Obama campaign says Clinton can't compete in key states.

(CNN) — Barack Obama’s presidential campaign manager said Wednesday Hillary Clinton’s campaign had “waved the white flag” in what he said was a potential fall battleground state.

The Clinton campaign responded that Obama’s team was looking to divert focus from the upcoming Pennsylvania primary, where the New York senator has held a significant advantage in most recent polls.

They have pointed out that many of the states that Obama has won by large margins during the primary process are not states the Democratic Party is likely to carry this fall, with senior adviser Harold Ickes telling the New York Times Wednesday that Obama’s victories there would be “virtually irrelevant to the general election.”

On a conference call with reporters, Plouffe did look to lower expectations in Pennsylvania. “We do not view this as a race now solely about the state of Pennsylvania,” he said, adding that the Clinton campaign was “the prohibitive favorite. They should win by a healthy margin given where they start.

“We’ll campaign hard there, we’ll try and get as many votes and delegates as we can, but our campaign will not be defined by Pennsylvania.”

He added that that the Clinton campaign’s contention that a Democrat could not win a fall bout in North Carolina – a state where Obama is expected to do well when primary voters head to the polls in May – “speaks to their weakness in the general election.

“We think we can win the state of North Carolina. Clinton has already waved the white flag… North Carolina will be a central battleground if Obama is our nominee," said Plouffe. The campaign also released an assessment of Obama’s general election chances in some of the biggest states.

Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer immediately responded: “The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania. So if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?”

– CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Barack Obama


Chris In California   March 12th, 2008 3:19 pm ET

Oops – I thought this was Jack's blog…lol

Anyway, I still feel the same. I do not think Hillary has waved a "white flag" at all. I think she will go on to win the nomination and the presidency and that she will serve the people well.

Diamond   March 12th, 2008 3:18 pm ET

Hillary Clinton pursues a falwed strategy that has failed Democrats for years. This woman has ZERO creativity.

You cannot win the prewsidency by winning 5 big states. Do't be deluded. EVERY SINGLE SURVEY OUT THERE shows Obama doing better against McCain – even in New York.

This woman is unelectable. Her negatives are too high.

HUGH BOYLE   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

IF SHE CANT HAVE IT HER WAY (CLINTON), WHY SHOULD SHE TRY. HOW IS SHE GOING TO TELLTHE PEOPLE OF NO CAROLINA THAT THERE STATE DOESN'T MATTER. IN MY OPION SHE DOESN'T MATTER. HUGHIE

Mike   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Obama has not been able to prove himself in the states where it counts. There is no question he is the candidate of the Black People. There is a question as to his standing with the majority. I for one will not vote for someone just because he is black nor would I vote for someone just because he is white. I will however vote for someone because he is a member of my group – A Naval Aviator.

Arthur   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

By throwing "the kitchen sink" at Obama prior to the Texas-Ohio primaries Hillary proved what many suspected about her – she will do anything to win. She gave the Republicans ammo to fight Obama with in the general election in November, were he to be the nominee. I've never seen anyone go to those lengths in other internal party elections in Ireland or the UK. It is as if she was saying to the Democrats "If I'm not going to be the nominee then I'll make sure you lose." I was not committed either way before that stunt but now, if she wins the presidency, it will cast a long shadow on politics for a long time. Bizarrely its almost exactly as Obama said in the beginning – the politics of fear vs a new hope.

Yakoto   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

Yes, given the recent sharp negative, foul and defeatist remarks and utterances of Mrs Hillary Clinton and her campaign team, Sen Clinton would n't be able to compete meaningfully in forth coming battlegrounds.

Instead, Hillary Clinton should start preparing her acceptance speech to concede defeat for the Democratic nomination compaing sooner than later.

Barak Obama, all the way!
Obama go on, foward ever!
Obama winning ways!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter in Canada   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

I am beggining to believe all this campaigning is just "smoke and mirrors" at this point.
Hillary's strategy is becoming incredibly clear, it is referred to as "the NUCLEAR OPTION".
If you cannot win (and she can't) then you hold the Democratic Party hostage until you get the nomination or you will destroy them or any chance of a presidential win for ANYBODY Democratic.
This shows her true character. Is this waht America wants for "Commander in Chief" ?

AngryinMN   March 12th, 2008 3:17 pm ET

I almost forgot: How about path to Washington DC goes through Washington State?

Obama 08

Anyone but Hillary.

joanna   March 12th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

What would this guy do if he did not have Hillary to kick around?

Daniel   March 12th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

The lead that Obama has is too big for Clinton to make up. She might win PA but Obama will win NC and then we are back to where we started. At the end of the process, I think Obama will maintain over a hundred delegate lead and the Super Delegates will flock to him and bring this fight to a close

IF, Portugal, Lisbon   March 12th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

The general election won't be about Pensylvania or Ohio. Her margin in Texas was negligeble to start with and has all but vanished this last day. The ganeral election will be, as the nominee elections, about each of the United States (if the United part survives Clinton's campaign). So, how can Clinton win the general election if she doesn't seem to be winning the nominee "contest"?

Kyle   March 12th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

Huckabee has as much claim on the Republican nomination as Hillary has on the Democratic one. After all, according to the Clinton campaign logic, McCain won CA, NY, NJ, MA all states that Republicans lose in the general, while Huckabee won the South and more self-identified Republicans in SC and FL. So if we are to ignore delegates, states won and vote totals and all that matters is selective states that you are "supposed" to win then I guess Mike Huckabee is preparing for his nomination. If delegates and votes don't matter in who should be nominated, what would prevent such future "moral" claims to nominations, no matter how far behind candidates are? The Clinton campaigns argument is flimsy considering if it were applied to the Republican race that that would mean Huckabee has as equal a claim to be nominated as Hillary does.

morrow   March 12th, 2008 3:16 pm ET

OK – so who's the strongest candidate in the Nov. general election? Isn't Clinton is way ahead in that statistic? My count is this:

263 – Electoral college votes of states Clinton has won
193 – Electoral college votes of states Obama has won

The electoral votes from states Clinton has already won, plus Pennsylvania (or one or two of the other states yet to vote), would put her over the 270 required to elect a president.

NoBama   March 12th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

Obama is Desperate!

paul   March 12th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

In analysis Obama won a lot of caucus states that democrates will not win, and the so called battleground states he won are marginal at best. I think Clinton makes a powerful argument that she won the major states, and the fact that neither will have enough delegates to win, well the bottom line question, is experience to lead our nation forward. I have a dream is different than I know how to lead.
This election should not be about race or gender, but, in reality it is.
Obama has the advantage being a male. It doesn't matter what race he is, the good old boy club makes it difficult for a woman to advance.
I wonder why reporters don't press the question to afro-american voters why are you voting for him at a 70% clip, I think the bottom line it because of race. And when women are asked the same question, well it is about gender. But, really, isn't the bottom line question about who can best solve our problems, deal with Washington, because, lobbyist will be a player no matter what Obama says, or what Clinton is accused of the lobbyist friend. It always boils down to leadership skills and how make government work.

v.a.   March 12th, 2008 3:15 pm ET

OBAMA PLAYED THE RACE CARD BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA ELECTIONS TO GET VOTES FROM AFRICAN AMERICANS AND AT THE SAME TIME HIS SUPPORTERS TRIED TO SHOW THAT THE CLINTONS WERE RACIAL AND NOW IT IS BACKFIRING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken   March 12th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

The same way Senator Clinton neglects the small states she lost in primaries and caucuses, the same way the small states will neglect her if she becomes the nominee. Large states are not the only states that make up America, it's all of them.

Her inconsideration of votes in the states she lost and recent polarized tatics could come back to hunt her if she's not carefull.

George from Minneapolis   March 12th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

The big states that Hillary has won will vote for ANY DEMOCRAT in the general election. Barney could run as a democrat and he would win Cal, Ny, Nj etc.

So, Hillary saying she "won the big states" does not matter in the general election because a democrat is going to win them no matter who it is.

Can Hillary say that she can win some of the states that Obama won in the general election or be competitive? NO. Democrats best chance in the general election is with Obama. That is obvious for us intelligent people. Who happen to be voting for Obama in droves. Coincedence ???

Chris In California   March 12th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Jack – I think you are biased in favor of Barack Obama. Can you even come up with ONE sincere and honest probing question regarding Barack Obama. Your support for Barack Obama is obvious. I think your tactics are tabloid, not true journalism by any legitimate standard.

Having said that, I think Hillary Clinton will be our next President and I think she has all of the experience, skill, and dedication to this country to do the job well.

Nevada for Obama   March 12th, 2008 3:14 pm ET

Obama is running a 50 state presidential campaign and rightly believes that every state counts. Clinton runs a hit and run cherry pick campaign which is a loosing strategy. Obama has put the red states in play for the first time in many years. He has won 15 out of the last 17 contests, and yes including Texas!.

Pensylvania is just another state like every other state, and Obama will do well there. Clinton is on the run, and kept drawing fire wall after fire wall. Pensylvania is the new fire wall. After pensylvania, her next fire wall is Puerorico. What a shame!!.

CNN POST MY COMMENT FOR A CHANGE!!!!!!

horace from The Golden State   March 12th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

isn't it so nice to hear from the clinton campaign that all the voters in all the states that obama has won will be irrelevant in the general election. i'm sure that all those millions of voters who voted for obama will be happy to hear how the clinton campaign regards them………….meaningless! nice spin hillary. good judgement NOT.

Nevada for Obama   March 12th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Obama is running a 50 state presidential campaign and rightly believes that every state counts. Clinton runs a hit and run cherry pick campaign which is a loosing strategy. Obama has put the red states in play for the first time in many years. He has won 15 out of the last 17 contests, and yes including Texas!.

Pensylvania is just another state like every other state, and Obama will do well there. Clinton is on the run, and kept drawing fire wall after fire wall. Pensylvania is the new fire wall. After pensylvania, her next fire wall is Puerorico. What a shame!!.

Trev   March 12th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Clinton won't compete in battlegrounds? Florida, Michigan, Ohio, PA, NJ? Obama will give it his best shot in Idaho though.

Look, it is true that Obama is stronger in WA, WI, VA and Maybe OR. The. Those states are important (Hillary never said they were not). However, if you asked me which states I would like to win, it would be the ones with more electors in the general. By not wanting to count Florida and Michigan, Obama is effectively waiving the white flag in those states. No thanks!

Hillary 08

MM   March 12th, 2008 3:13 pm ET

Obama is only "winning" "red" states…and the race only counts Democrats…Republicans are 98% white (the other half of the race). In November he will need to win "blue" states (which he can't) and he'll have to win over 50% of whites…which looks very unlikely. He should have given serious thought to negotiating a VP slot to get more recognition, then run after Hillary's 2 terms. The Dems have screwed up this perfect scenario that would have given them time, and both branches (Congress and Executive) of government to reverse the Reagan/Bushes era. They don't have to move to the middle if they figure it out!

Darren P   March 12th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Why do I get the feeling that if Hillary wins, she will claim ala Bush to be the President of the states that voted for her? I realize the importance of the big states, but it seems that she is willing to cast down all the other states just because they don't support her.

California Independent   March 12th, 2008 3:12 pm ET

Obama thinks Clinton should beat him in red state North Carolina that is 21% AA? Could someone please get him to shut up.

So far, Clinton has won 163 Democratic delegates to Obama's 82 for the GE. The number of Clinton supporters who refuse to vote for Obama exceed the Obama supporters who won't vote for Clinton. 24% of Clinton supporters like McCain. Obama is susceptible to McCain in 3 democratic states.

They can spin all they want. Statistically they are the weakest candidate.

Oh yeah, good line…. North Carolina is more indicative of the GE result that Pennsylvania. NC has 3 GE delegates to PN's 21. Nice math Obama.

Candi   March 12th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

If the people of Pennsylvania is so studpid that they will let Hillary dictate how to cast their vote for her then you all are studpid. Hillary don't care about you people, don't you get it by now. People of any states to follow should not let that monster get on stage with her old fashion sense of direction and say vote for me because of my experience, foreign policy or whatever. Hillary is a fraud and there is something she left in the White House she can't find that is damaging to her and Bill and she needs to get back in there to remove it. Okay let her get back there and you people will be down the tube. You think she threw the kitchen sink at Obama she will stones to the American People, because you put her were she wanted to be but not because she like you but because she like herself.

JamesD   March 12th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Clinton spokesman asks how Obama can win the general election if he can't win PA? A better question should be, how can Hillary win the general election if she can't win the most primary delegates?

Joan   March 12th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

As if Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida and Ohio are not battleground states.
If they continue to show resistance to revotes in Michigan and Florida be sure to lose in the GE.

Jennifer C.   March 12th, 2008 3:11 pm ET

With Obama in the general election this will not be an ordinary party line Democrat/Republican election. My 68 year old Republican father, who has never voted Democratic, admires McCain but can't stop talking about Obama's vision for America. My 66 year old Democratic mother voted for Obama saying, "he is the only one speaking the truth". I am a 41 year old , Republican, mother of two, former Catholic school teacher who hopes our country sees the gift in Obama. He has integrity and courage and speaks frankly about our universal concerns. We have a real leader in our midst and maybe we have forgotten what one looks like.

champ   March 12th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Why should the Clinton'S' campaign set the agenda and the media continue to buy into it? It's like getting to an Olympic and dictating what race should the race commissions deem important. OR, It’s like a football match, where the goal poles keep moving and moving. Hilary, you’ll be surprised we will win you on your own field!

ken   March 12th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

It is absolutely insane to think that Obama can't win the Democratic "big" states if he faces McCain in the general election. They are Democratic states ! He will carry those states if Clinton is not in the picture. Are American's that stupid to buy into Clinton's weak argument? I cannot be the only smart American here. Read carefully….. Except for Texas (Which Obama won as a whole) THE DEMOCRATIC BIG STATES WILL STAY SIMPLY THAT> DEMOCRATIC ! REGARDLESS WHO IS THE NOMINEE. Weak argument. Anyone who has half a brain would understand that. You want to know the big difference between American's and the rest of the world ? Americans love to be told what to think. That's why they buy into every B.S that is pumped out my the Media. Sorry CNN.

Realistic   March 12th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Hillary is winning the states that ANY Democratic candidate would win anyhow, but she has no chance outside of those states.

By contrast, Obama will take not only the blue states but a lot of the red ones as well.

Hopefully, the Democratic leadership understands this and will be euthanizing the sad but lingering remains of the Clinton campaign soon.

bakersfield   March 12th, 2008 3:10 pm ET

why don't you let my posts thru
Can someone explain how caucus’s are a reflection of the peoples vote
Example
Texas
Popular vote Clinton 51% caucus 44%
Popular vote obama 47% caucus 56%
Plus only 41% of the precincs have been reported the others might have somehow come up missing
So tell me if I’m wrong but this tells me that caucus are not the will of the people of the state, it is the will of the few that are able to show up.
me and other voters in california are voting for experience and i guantee i will vote for mccain if hillary is not the nominee

Sameer   March 12th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

More Obama stays in the race, more he is exposed. All those people who voted for him in the Super Tuesday, half of them will not vote now for him if the voting were to happen today. He has been exposed, he is not that goody goody as he sounded at the beginning, as a matter of fact he is very arrogant and devisive person. He is the reason the party is now so divided.

As Tom Brokaw said in an interview with the Canadian news channel, he is flying 35,000 ft above, it is time now he comes down to earth and face the reality. He can't go on to win the general election just by winning over 90% of black votes. Lets accept the fact, most of the states he won are red states and irrelevant in the general election because these states will go to the Republicans anyway.

Clinton is a fighter, througout this campaign she has been fighting tough against all odds and still standing hard on ground. Do we think Obama can handle the pressure she has been? I admire her for what she has done for the country, what has Obama done so far except criticizing Bill Clinton's legacy and talking empty talks? Bill Clinton was the best president we had in the recent history and Obama will never ever be able to reach his legacy.

D.Kimbro OHIO   March 12th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

I am truly interested to see what will happen if Clinton doesnt win in Pa. I guess she is shooting for another piric victory like the one in Texas. How can you continue to count that states as a win when you came away with less delegates. She will not get the type of margin needed to solidify anything.

Ron, Las Vegas   March 12th, 2008 3:09 pm ET

People forget there is a difference between a primary election and a general election. Just because you lose a primary election ia state does not mean you lose the general election there. This whole thing about winning big states is one big falsehood. Many of those will go to whomever the democratic nominee is. By stating all the states she has lost as not important, Hillary has set herself up for defeat. No one likes to be told that their state does not count or is not important. Remember they are running for president of the US, not just some of the big states.

carlo   March 12th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

How is it that Clinton gets to tell us which states are the Key states? I thought that the race was for the President of the United States, you know, that country with FIFTY states! I'm starting to wonder if the media is afraid of Hillary. I know Obama's problem-poor thing-he's a gentleman. Doesn't he know that you can't treat Hillary like a lady?

Ga Mike   March 12th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

The most populous states that Clinton is touting as victories are going to be states that Dems win anyway. Give me a break, this whole thing is a fairy tale. There is some truth to what the Obama camp is saying about the old strategies in Washington. 50 + 1 leads to the same gridlock that exists in Washington right now, a country and 2-party system divided by red/blue states and republican/democrat. This is exactly what Obama is trying to change. He has gone on record to say that one way to reach across the aisle is to consider Republicans as members of his cabinet.

Dwayne   March 12th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

Clinton's Campaign continuously attempts to define the nomination process by their own criteria’s, seemingly oblivious to the fact that they are behind both in Pledge Delegates and the popular vote. Now it’s another attempt to define the fight for the nomination based on who wins the state of Pennsylvania. For the Clinton Campaign wherever she stands to be victorious becomes the nomination defining state, this is just too absurd. Were they not given the same rulebook as the Obama Campaign?

Ron   March 12th, 2008 3:08 pm ET

HILLARY and FERARRO 08 FIGHTERS FOR AMERICA YES WE CAN!
REAL SOLUTIONS FOR REAL AMERICANS

Tom, Iowa   March 12th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Who wrote this article? It makes no sense. Three paragraphs in it mentions some named "Plouffe." Who are they? Who do they represent? Someone needs to edit this.

TSR   March 12th, 2008 3:07 pm ET

Ridiculious is what i call her campaign,,,,,,,,John Mcsane will win Pennsylvania in the general election if the democrats elect Hillary and Bill to the party's nomination,also he'll probably win Ohio and Texas.

AngryinMN   March 12th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

"Pennsylvania…path to 1600 Pensssylvania"??? Like it was 4 years ago with Kerry/Edwards ?

Tom,des moines   March 12th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

People who support Obama should know 1 thing, and that is u need to win blue states, and not red states like AL,AK,GA,ID,KS,ND,UT,LA,NE,VA,WY and MS, as u know John McCain will win most if not all of the red states anyway. all I can say to Obama supporter,that is not 2 late to join the winning team and be part of the team that will beat John McCain in the gereral election. Go Hillary!

Dana   March 12th, 2008 3:06 pm ET

I am so tired of hearing the same old noise from Hilliary. She couldn't win in November with all the Republican attack machine waiting patiently for her. So forget it Hilliary and aren't you tired of this losing battle you're fighting.

TAR HEEL   March 12th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

just leave it to obama's campaign to point out that he is competing in a racially mixed state like he is himself …what will he think of next to actually speak on the issues ..oh wait he does ….fact is obama doesnt have to do anything but coast statisically he only needs 47% of the last contests to win the nomination because he is so far ahead in the delegate count …………..

ooooohhhh thats gotta hurt hillary geraldine and gloria steinem whats next will they protest that he should have given them a head start because they are women ……they will think of something stupid to say tommarrow just wait you'll see

Keith   March 12th, 2008 3:05 pm ET

The Clinton campaign falsely portrays that if they win a big state in the primary that Obama cannot win that state in the general election. This position is flawed…The democrats will win CA, NY, NJ, MA and yes OH and PA with either of these canidates. This is mostly true with all of the states…Obama does bring into play the possibility to win states that have traditionaly voted republican and Hillary does not…this is an undisputed fact (republicans HATE Hillary)

All canidates try to spin their message to benefit them but Hillary Clinton does in a way that disrespects the american voter, treating us as if we are stupid. We should all be outraged over her behavior!

Charle/Amsterdam, Netherlands   March 12th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

and here I am thinking that the USA consisted of 50 states plus some far away regions like Puerto rico, Guam etc. From the Clinton point of view the USAc osists merely of a handful of bigger states like California, Florida, New York and Pennsylvania, provided she wins those states. Is Texas still a worthy state or has it lost its status afterthe full election results?

GAURAV   March 12th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

CLINTON SHOULD GIVE UP, SHE CANNOT BE THE NOMINEE, SHE NEVER LEARNED TO REPRESENT THE WHOLE COUNTRY. OBAMA MAY NOT HAVE WON SOME BIG STATES BUT HE DID NOT GET BLOWN OUT EITHER, HE GOT HEALTHY VOTES IN NY AND CA. HE WILL WIN THOSE STATES IN NOV. REMEMBER PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA , WILL VOTE FOR MCCAIN IF OBAMA IS NOT THE NOMINEE

Jorge   March 12th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

ofcourse not!!! the only sight of the name Clinton on the ballot makes many people. like me, to vote against it!!! I will NEVER VOTE FOR HER!!!!! NEVER!!!!!

nmt   March 12th, 2008 3:04 pm ET

mmm, lets wait and see

arthurW from Virginia   March 12th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

The logic escapes me that if one candidate wins a state, no matter by how small a margin, then the 'losser' can't possibly win the same state in the Fall election. The absuridity of their pronouncments are starting to make both camps sound like idiots, though the logic of seating delegates as voted from states that both parties agreed would not count gives the dunce cap to the Clinton Camp. Please, the american public isn't that stupid… are we?

Stephen   March 12th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

I agree with Singer! PA is another step to the whitehouse. Hillary is the best chance we have in the election.

Hillary' 08

Michael   March 12th, 2008 3:03 pm ET

Anyone who believes a words Harold Ickes says, including "and" and "the" is gullible in the extreme.

Pat Huntington NY   March 12th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

North Carolina is anything but a battle ground state…it will certainly go to McCain why? Because the blacks, while making up a large percentage of the democratic voters, make up a mere fraction of the general electorate, and the overwhelming general electorate there, are white republicans, and many are white conservative former NY'rs who will not vote obama. That's a sad truth, but its a reality. Who ever obama has in his campaign helping him to figure percentages and statistics, should be fired.

Andrew from CA   March 12th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

CNN claimed that Ohio and Texas stopped Obama's momentum even though he made significant gains in the weeks before their primairies (and actually won more Texas delegates.) I challenge CNN to be fair on judging the PA results.

Let's check the polls right now in PA and see where Clinton and Obama stand. Then lets see where they stand on April 23rd. If Clinton has momentum, the percentages should strengthen her lead. If Obama narrows the gap, he can claim the momentum is still going his way.

No movement against the polls is NO CHANGE. Hillary winning PA is not a swing in momentum unless she changes the needle from where it stands now. Can CNN be balanced in analysis?

joanna   March 12th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

I am so fed up with these campaigns. Candidates hoisted afloat by their own hot air. Worst example is Barry O. so full of himself and the hot gases emitted by his followers.

Paul Naranjo   March 12th, 2008 3:02 pm ET

Poor Obama, now he is one more politician trying to put down other candidates. Finally, he is showing who he truly is.
What about his change, did it get lost somewhere in the path,' cause now, he is going negative to devaite voters' attention from the fact that he is not ready nor experienced to lead our nation.

Obamaniac , why don't you stop crying and dividing the party and go to the facts.

They say that he is the front runner, which is not true, since no one will accumulate the number of delegates needed for the nomination, thus, he cannot proclaim himself the savior of America, cause we need a President not a preacher.

Every vote should count.

HILLARY 08

jason   March 12th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

So Clinton thinks that winning states in the primaries that the democrats will most likely lose in november makes those wins somehow less meaningful or valuable? Funny, she seemed to think that winning Texas was of utmost importance… considering texas has voted republican in the general election nearly every time for the past few decades.

changing times   March 12th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

Simple Singer, Obama is changing the electoral map. He of course win the state that are already blue and it's more than probable that because of the 2-1 margin of democrats participating vs republicans he can very well change the electoral in our favor.

But first we have to stop this in-fighting and racial and gender division and concentrate on healing. MSM, Republicans and conservative evangelicals have us against the ropes. It's our election to lose if we don't snap out of our hatred and bitterness.

RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI   March 12th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

HILLARY SPEAK: SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATICS FOR THINKING THAT I WANT TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF ALL THE 50 STATES THAT MAKE UP AMERICA. SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRATICS!

MP Pennsylvania   March 12th, 2008 3:01 pm ET

Hillary alieanated black people so much in primary with her surrogates that in november those people will not vote for her. She lost black people support due to her dirty politics. So she will depend on women and some latino's in november. I am a woman but I will not vote for her. She is a disgrace to all women.

"Keeping it real"   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Clinton and her campaign are crazy as hell! Don't get too cocky, April 22nd is a long way off. A lot can happen between now and then. Don't be at all surprised if it does.

Perrell, Lincolnton, NC   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Its not to say he can not win there, if HRC wins there but Obama gets the nomination, I still feel that Obama will win that state just b/c it is more of a blue state then red state… So it would be naive of Phil Singer to say if Obama does win Pennsylvania he will not win the White House is absurd to say the least.

Hillary backer   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Obama is a lot of hot air. But you never can tell about the fickle American voter. It is basically a popularity contest. We get who we deserve which is not much. Look at the last 8 years.

Slap Stick, FLORIDA   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

Keep in mind Clinton Camp that Pennsylvania Ave is in one state and Obama is representing the United States so there is more than one way to get through the Clinton's dog and pony show.

Obama 08
America says Yes We Can!!

jp/michigan   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

What wrong CNN that American voters can leave a comment on your site?

Chris   March 12th, 2008 3:00 pm ET

When we look at the number of Obama supports coupled with the Clinton supports that said they could vote for either candidate, Obama comes out on top.

I am a registered Republican and a member of the United Federation of TEachers and will vote democrat if Obama is the nominee. If Clinton is the nominee I will vote for McCain.

Lastly, lets look at the number of years that Obama and Clinton have been in an elected position (no being first lady doesnt make that an elected position) we clearly see that Obama has more experience.

Obama '08

John   March 12th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

Oh… boy another negative story about Hillary, what a surpise CNN. You guys had half a story on Obama's double talk regarding NAFTA and Canada, but go after Hillary all the time. I can understand her not spending a lot of time in Mississippi, all the blacks were going to vote for Obama anyway, regardless of his record. The way things are going even if Hillary did spend time in the "Battle" ground states you would find some problem in that too.

Alicia   March 12th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

The only thing I will say is the General Election is not based on the out come of a few states, It is all of America. To focus on certain areas is one of the reason this country is in the shape it is. California, Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are not the only states hoping we will gain a President who will keep us out of recession. AMERICA is hoping for that President to be elected. These candidates need to focus on the issues at hand and not who is doing or saying what. And as far as these campaign spokemen, they all need to be dropped as they are the only ones spreading falsities about the candidates. I want to hear from the Presidential candidates themselves. If they didn't speak it, I DON'T CARE!

Spin...spin...spin   March 12th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

What the Obama camp is ignoring is that they will loose more Clinton supporters than what they will ever dream in picking up. Obama cannot win the general election without the BIG states that Clinton has won, and he won't take some of those in the general election.

The Obama camp is sending out the kool-aide and pie in the sky again. They are misleading the public into believing what they want – but without the big states and that will include Florida – Obama will loose the general election – no matter what percentage of black votes he gets.

So – a vote for Obama is to put McCain into the White House

A vote for Clinton is to put a Democrat into the White House!

CJ, Calif   March 12th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

I hate to be a buzz-kill around all of this exciting talk about race, gender, re-dos, he said-she said, they said-we said, Saturday Night Live, 3 am phone calls, white flags, bla bla bla.

Whatever happened to Iraq, immigration, recession, foreclosures…? I'm sick of both of these two and I am beginning to lean to the right.

Bill   March 12th, 2008 2:59 pm ET

If, and I say if, someone stops dividing the party, the candidate with the most delegates will win the nomination. When this happens, if Democrats aren't too put off by the lies and negative ads hurled at the winner, the party and it's members will vote for our next President, Barack Obama.

NancyD   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

I think Obama should campaign in Pennsylvania – let the people there get to know him as well. I think Clinton would be in for a surprise!

Scott in Boston   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

You cannot win the presidency without winning Ohio. If it's, Obama and McCain – McCain will win. If it's, Clinton and McCain – Clinton will win. The Super Delegates know this therefore, in the end [like it or not] they will choose Clinton. Ps. Many feel the same goes for Florida although you can lose Florida and squeak out a win…

mary   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

So who won Texas? Obama !

CNN projected yesterday that Obama was the winner of the Texas Democratic caucuses that occurred March 4. Obama will be awarded 38 of Texas's delegates, while Clinton will win 29 delegates as a result of the caucuses, CNN estimates.And though Clinton won more delegates than Obama in the primary, 65 to 61, Obama's wider delegate margin in the caucuses gives him the overall statewide delegate lead, 99 to 94

Chris   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

That last Clinton sentence is so cheesy, it's the new "Change you can Xerox".

John, Las Vegas, NV   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

OK, the rest of the country needs to get this straight. There is one set of rules for the Clintons, and another set of rules for everyone else in the country. Likewise, states that Clinton wins matter, whereas states where Clinton loses do not matter. Hence, in Hillary's mind she is now crushing Barack Obama because his delegate and popular vote lead is only the result of having won in states that do not matter.

Ross   March 12th, 2008 2:57 pm ET

The path that Ronald Reagan took to the White House in 1984 was through 48 states and Mondale and Ferraro won two. I think Obama's plan to go to all states is far superior to the Clinton/Bush/Rove/Kerry/Gore strategy of trying to win only certain states. Are all Americans and all States equal? There are not red states and blue states as Obama has said and his working majority includes all demographics. Because you do not win a certain state or a demographic vote does not mean that latinos, white men, senior women, asians and others are not voter for him. So far 13 million Americans have voted for him and they are Amercian voters – regardless of thier Mark Penn demographic and the Clinton plan to pit one group against the other – she and her advisors keep dismissing certain states and caucuses as Red States and not a real vote. 13 million Amercian voters beg to differ.

Mary   March 12th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

My GPS tells me there is another way you can get to 600 PA ave. Looks like from PA Hillary is going to the white house while Obama has to fight alittle more the remaining states. Clintons are only thinking about why they should win this election. Can someone tell me how rediculus this is?

Jim, American in Paris   March 12th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Obama is unelectable and would lose in November.

He has not won one of the biggest states and would lose in Florida to John McCain as well as one or two other states such as Ohio, Texas and perhaps California.

The Democrats will lose the whole thing with him.

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton would certainly win Florida and and most of the other delegate rich states the Democrats need to win in November.

Once again, Obama is dreaming.

CNNModeration_Post_This_One,NY   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

I have a question for the Clinton campaign:
If all of the states don't matter what's the point of campaigning in all of them ????
I have the answer : The point is to having delegates
This is what primaries/caucus are about
as they understand they can't catch in pledged delegates, they're making this silly argument, ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED !!!
Listening to them, only states they carried matter

christine   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Clinton compaign should not choose were to campaign and were not to compaign this is about changing the country so red states or blue states they should compaign hard anywere any states because if you choose were to compaign and call for uniting the country or change the you are not telling the truth to the american people, they need to compete in every state like obama is doing, because is she doesnt and she will loose to mccain all those red states and the indepent votes are needed, We are no longer in the 90's this is 2008, so you cant keep on saying if i win big the big states i should win the nomination, no i think those states no matter who the democrat is in november they will vote for that person so she needs to win in some of the red states get new democrats that is the idea, and obama is doing well in that area

Enrique   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The path to Pennsylvania Ave for a Democratic nomination candidate is to win as many delegates as possible. Someone needs to tell Hillary that she's behind on that front.

Gary Mitchell - Vancouver WA   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

Just as the Bush didn't compete in the Blue States and wasn't the President of them, Hillary would seek to be a fly over President and forget the rest. Comments let go by the Clinton campaign signifies that she is out of touch with mainstream America and a President needs to be President of all the States. That is why the Obama approach of reconciliation is the best. It is about time we sought to heal the fractures that have separated us as a people and find the common ground necessary to move this country forward to a better tomarrow.

Curliss   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

HILLARY AS A INDEPENDENT CANDIDATE WOULD SEND SHRIVERS DOWN THE SPINES OF OBAMA SUPPORTERS.

Clinton has now twice reach out to run on a joint-ticket, so they could end this cut-throat race for the nomination and save the democratic party…Obama rejects/renounces it. Not a good sign, for a man who claims he is a uniter…..he is more like a divider. I HOPE the super delegates will pick the rightful candidate…when you include FLA/MI Hillary has then won just about every big state that matters.

GO HILLARY!!!

get real   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

The I won the big state argument is weak. Realistically speaking most of the big states that Hillary won will go democratic regardless of who the nominee is. The question is can we turn purple states blue, and bordeline red states blue as well. Those are the states Obama has been winning and that is what makes him more electable in the general election. Also note, that while Hillary may have won the big states, she barely won them, but the red and purple states that Obama won, he won by large margins. Hillary is a good canidate, but realistically if we want a democrat in the White house, Obama is the one that can definitely beat McCain.

Rita   March 12th, 2008 2:55 pm ET

I am so sick of the Clinton campaign stating that just because noone has ever won without winning certain states before that it won't be possible to win the election. Clinton wouldn't do well in swing states anyway if it wasn't for Obama bringing so many new registered Democrats out to vote and blowing out the turnout of Republicans. The Obama campaign has done essentially everything different that the way things are usually done and has done amazingly well. All I have to say to the Clinton camp is: THERE'S A FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING

Gerri   March 12th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Sen. Obama will win by being honest with the people of the U.S. of American.

Rick in Florida   March 12th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Clinton's flawed premise is that just because she beat Obama in some big states, somehow they'll go to McCain in Nov if Obama is the nominee. These are all BLUE states, folks, and they will go with whichever Dem wins the nomination, so saying Obama will lose them to McCain, just because she beat Obama there in the primary, is ridiculous… flawed in its basic premise. DON'T BE FOOLED!!

IF CLINTON.. THE LONG LIFE DEM WILL VOTE REP.   March 12th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

That is right., Clinton, only want states that have traditional "dem" voters,.. well i am from VA.. and well we like obama, and we aren't a traditional "dem" state. America is becoming more independent now that bush has destroyed democracy,,,

bond   March 12th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

Blah blah blah, spin spin spin.

Scoreboard Obama

Ann   March 12th, 2008 2:53 pm ET

I can not agree any more with David. With Clintons, there are states that matter and some that don't. How pathetic! Sick and tired…….

JB, Boston   March 12th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Don't be fooled by the Clinton machine. EVERY State counts. She is trying to make this a race about CA/NY/PA/FL/MI. The "big" States that they have done well in. So, they claim the other States don't matter due to small populations.???????? Isn't that what the framers were trying to avoid, just a few States completely controlling politics. Hence the Senate, where everyone gets two senators.

Besides, any dem can win the Blue States of NY/MA. Just because Hillary won there doesn't mean anyother dem would lose!

Robert   March 12th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Obama's supporters are fooling themselves if they think Obama will win the presidency because he keeps winning states that have gone republican in the general elections for the past 30 years. Only the large states matter and Hillary is the only one that can carry them. Obama is trying to jump ahead of himself when he should have waiting 8 years to run. All he is doing is insuring that McCain wins the presidency and that we have 4 more years of failed policies.

Cooper   March 12th, 2008 2:52 pm ET

Pennsylvania hasn't been on the road to the White House since 1996. Both Gore and Kerry won it but lost the election.

Murray   March 12th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

I began this campaign being so excited and hopeful for the election this fall. That seems slowly to becoming a dream more than the "dream ticket". It is easy to see why nothing is being done to help the average working person. Our elected government officials are too concerned about power at any cost. I have heard practically nothing about the issues that matter in the last two weeks. Hillary tells non-truths about Obama on the stump in PA about a vote he placed and no news person addresses it. Ferrora can say anything about Obama and she is not reprimanded for it. But please don't let someone call Hillary a monster, that is un-American and the worst thing possible. Here it is, I'm turning off my television and going to let all the lies for what they are worth miss me and my family. I hope it will clean its-self up so I can go to the poles when it comes to NC. By the way Hillary we do matter here and Democrats can win here this fall for the Democratic party.

JohnLahai   March 12th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

I thought the road to the White House was through OHIO (and TX as the firewall), what happened here? Just a foolish thought. I guess the OHIO people are now irrelevant!! By June, the PA people will equally be irrelevant; it would be FL or MI. Aren't we tired of using and abusing people for political gains in this nation?

For Catholics, I urge you not only to contribute money, but to say a decade of the Rosary for the anointment of a decent and God-fearing man, such as Obama, to regain the White House. We are a nation of rules and laws, including our basic moral virtues.

txpoodoo   March 12th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

Clinton's fall strategy has been a Gore/Kerry +1; that is win all the states that Kerry/Gore won, but win one more, either Ohio or Fl.

But let us not forget that if Kerry/Gore would have won at least one of the many of the "smaller" states like they should have (AR, TN to name a couple), Ohio or FL would not even have mattered.

McCain is going to appeal to a broader range of voters than Bush. Lets not forget that he is a moderate Republican, states that are swing or purple states are going to be in a Republican playbook. The Democrats need to look past what they have done in the past and create new swing states. States that McCain already thinks he has, make him fight for them, make him spend money on them. One thing that Democrats have going for them this year is a bigger coffer. Make McCain spend money that he was not intending to spend. It will hurt him in the swing states.

I think the Obama campaign realizes this, they are seeing the bigger picture.

Republicans for Obama   March 12th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

Perhaps that Republicans that "were whispering" can help you as they did in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island. Not!

josephine   March 12th, 2008 2:51 pm ET

Why haven't you posted any comments to this article? Seems sort of fishy to me that CNN always is favorable to Obama.

Jake, California   March 12th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Or I should say: its the person that first reaches the 2024 delegates that matters, not whether you won big states or small states!

Jackstrider   March 12th, 2008 2:50 pm ET

Compare and contrast:

-Clinton originally agreed that MI and FL delegates should not count in the primary. Now she says that they must be heard.
-Obama agreed that MI and FL delegates should not count in the primary and has stuck to the DNC rules as agreed by all candidates.

- Clinton says she should be the nominee because she has "won" the bigger states.
- Do the smaller states not count? Obama has not denigrated any state's value in this campaign. He campaigns hard in states large and small, whatever his chances.

-Clinton says that Obama wins in states that have traditionally voted Republican while she wins in Democratic strongholds,
-Obama appeals to voters across groups by party, race and gender.

-Clinton supporters claim Obama is successful because he is Black, but they are not playing the "race" card.
-Obama supporters do not make any appeal or argument based on race or gender, either positively for Obama or negatively toward Clinton.

Which administration do we want to run the Executive Branch?

Hillary 08 Ohio   March 12th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Leave Obama out in the dust, as Hillary she is the TRUE winner anyway!.

Republicans for Obama   March 12th, 2008 2:49 pm ET

Oba

PA Mom for Obama   March 12th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

I'm sorry, but the path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue doesn't just go through Pennsylvania, it goes through every single state in the United States. No one state is any more important then another just as no one vote is any more important than another. I am so tired of Camp Clinton trying to convince Super Delegates that she wins "important states". I'm not very excited by a presidential candidate that wants to just forget about 1/2 of our nation.

franklahai   March 12th, 2008 2:48 pm ET

I thought the road to the White House was through OHIO (and TX as the firewall), what happened here? Just a foolish thought. I guess the OHIO people are now irrelevant!! By June, the PA people will equally be irrelevant; it would be FL or MI. Aren't we tired of using and abusing people for political gains in this nation?

For Catholics, I urge you not only to contribute money, but to say a decade of the Rosary for the anointment of a decent and God-fearing man, such as Obama, to regain the White House. We are a nation of rules and laws, including our basic moral virtues.

vote   March 12th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

To be objective, Gore and Kerry would have been president if they did not run their campaign on the big state strategy. Small states do matter because it has led to Bush being president twice. Republicans win elections based on winning small states. The theory of small states being irrelevant is not true. If Gore or Kerry won colorado, nevada or virgina which are swing states this year, Ohio and Florida would not have matter. Second, Clinton stated he did not win the democratic big states and therefore should not be the nominee. Her theory is flawed because those states would vote democratic regardless of the nominee. Those large states such as NY or Nj most of the time vote democratic. The question is not who wins the most big states, but who will win the small swing states. Obama's appeal will help the democrates in capturing those votes because of his unity message as well as his primary wins in some of those small states.

interesting   March 12th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

Huh?

I am confused Obama. All camps are competiting. The next campaign is Pennsylvania with a delegate rich state of 158. Just relax. You did well. Fight one battle at a time.

CaliMale4Hill   March 12th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

bla bla bla… we know who will lose PA, another good way to make an excuse for the "buyers remorse" all over

Thompson   March 12th, 2008 2:46 pm ET

It doesn't matter, the same people who voted for Clinton will more than likely vote for Obama in the fall. So are you saying core democrats will not for for Obama if Clinton doesn't win the nomination? I highly doubt it… DEMOCRATS will win this election regardless of the spin the Clinton camp puts on Obama's electability. It's not about who at this point, it's the changes that are made after being elected. Who is better positoned to make change????

Susan   March 12th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Hillary just needs to quit now gracefully and move on into retirement.

Bye Bye Clintons !!

jill   March 12th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Wait and See who wins Pennsylvania primary, will be a surprise for many including CNN and FOX .

DP   March 12th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Obama will win in most Democratic states and will be competitive in Repulican states. It does not matter who is the nomainee. It is about the party. Obama can also bring more people together.

jill   March 12th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

Wait and See who wins Pennsylvania primary, will be a surprise for many .

Chris   March 12th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Wake up America! No matter what Clinton does she cannot win the delegate count. I dare ONE out there person to make the argument that Florida and Michigan should count. They broke the rules and now they want back in the game. If you get kicked out of a basketball game, you hit the locker room and move on.

Again, I dare anyone to make an actual argument for this.

Obama Guy   March 12th, 2008 2:44 pm ET

Oh stop with this Big state madness..come the general election all these blue states will rally behind obama who does this women think she is..I mean the nerve…she's running on borrowed time the super delegates are already starting to speak and they aren't speaking to highly on clinton and her tactics…she will never see the nomination barring some brokered back room deal which would all but seal her fate come Nov Obama has almost a 200 point lead on her now…they will not just hand this election to her based on her "winning a couple big states"…those same states will stand behind Obama.

Debby   March 12th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Obama won't win these so called battleground red states in Nov. The reason he is winning the south now is because of the black vote. When the Republicans come out to vote for McCain in the south it will be in droves and bye bye Obama if he is the nom. If Obama can't win any of the electoral states now, then he will never have a chance of winning an Presidential election.

Sean McM   March 12th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Obama, the only flag we fly is red, whit and blue. Since you voted against an ammendment to ban burning our flag I don't expect you to understand that.

Take your liberal socialism back to Chicago.

Florida Voter   March 12th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Hillary is like the girlfriend that won't go away after you break-up. Can I get a restraining order for the benefit of the State of Florida????

Let us not forget people, as Hillary so eloquently pointed out, pledged delegates do not have to vote according to their pledge. They are under no obligation to vote 'as pledged' and can change their minds at the convention. So, Super-Delegates and Pledge Delegates are still in play.

Thanks for the reminder Hillary … any plans to pursue this strategy now that you’ve pointed it out?

Jake, California   March 12th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

The Clinton camp is full of dumb tactics.. Why do they want Obama to measure his campaign success by Pennsylvania? Of course the people of PA are important to the Obama camp but we cannot use them )or any one state )as a deal maker or breaker like Hillary did with Texas and Ohio(both of which she didn't win anyways, Obama got the most delegates out of TX)

It is the person that first reaches the 2024 delegates at the end that matters..not how much you get from one particular state..
If she wins PA with 158 delegates(which i doubt), we'll come close to sharing the delegates 50-50 as usual and we'll trash her in NC(115 delegates at stake) and get more of the delegates here!

The Hillary people aren't smart at all…sorry to say!

Chris McClum   March 12th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

All those Hillary supporters in those big states will rally around Barack when he becomes the nominee.

It makes no sense to claim that winning the democratic primary in Pennsylvania means that the choice by delegates and raw vote count from the rest of the country somehow becomes irrelevant.

Democrats will rally behind Barrack when he becomes our candidate.

johndimmy   March 12th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

I thought the path to the Wite House was through OHIO, what happened? Just a foolish thought!

James   March 12th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

hey Phil Singer, last time I checked many presidents have been elected without winning Pennsylvania. As a PA resident, I know this fact. Additionally, just because someone wins the state in a primary is no reflection on the end result in a general election. It can be taken as a sign, but not an absolute. The only thing that is clear is a party nominee usually can count on at least 75% of the voter turnout in a state his or her party received in the primary process.

Obama will probably win PA in a General Election. Hillary will not.

kmarcus122   March 12th, 2008 2:42 pm ET

As I live in NC, am a precinct vice-chair and a country delegate, we WILL do everything within our power to turn NC blue…from the ground level, we're turning purple already!!!

As for the Clinton campaign, how hard do you expect us to fight with comments like that? Good lord!!

Ryan   March 12th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

I don't understand why Obama's win of the Texas caucases, which led him to win the most delegates in Texas, has not been a bigger story. Clinton had suggested she NEEDED to win in Texas just to stay in the race, and now she in fact lost in Texas. No doubt she will continue, but it seems strange that this story is lumped quietly under Obama's Mississippi win. Shouldn't this be discussed more widely as a major win for Obama? The media attention has shifted markedly in past weeks, in favor of Hillary Clinton, after her complaints of a biased media. Now things are starting to appear very biased in the opposite direction. Perhaps there is no unbiased media, but it seems that something strange has been happening.

S. Edwards   March 12th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Yes, finally. There are actually other states in this country besides the ones that Hillary Clinton believes to be important. Believe it or not, some of those other states will also be important in fall 2008. Just because Hillary is putting all of her eggs in PA, like she did in TX and Ohio, doesn't mean those are the only states left to vote that count. Oh, and PS—-TX gave Obama more delegates, so I guess it isn't that important anymore either.

Arden   March 12th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

From what I have seen and listened to for the past 2 years anything can happen in an election. No one should take anything for granted. This election has become so mean spirited. If it continues the Democratic Party will fall and we will loose another election to someone that should not be elected.

Bob Stephens   March 12th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Sounds like she is following the Giuliani Method of losing

Go Hillary!   March 12th, 2008 2:41 pm ET

Are you kidding me? Mr.Obama?

You are just a loser who fears to face final results!

2008 Hillary

Mark, VA   March 12th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

Nice try Obama, but I ain't buying it. In fact I am buying less and less from you as the days go by.

J Norman   March 12th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

In the most recent analysis I saw done by Ramussen comparing McCain-Clinton vs McCain-Obama in the 17 swing states, Obama’s numbers were better than Clinton’s in 13 of those states.

In the most recent analysis I saw done by SuveryUSA looking at electorial votes, Obama was +88 vs McCain while Clinton was +27 or so.

In both cases, Obama was the stronger candidate than Clinton vs McCain.

What is also often overlooked is that those surveys were done before Obama had campaigned in all of the states – which nearly always improves his numbers. I think those results are likely to get stronger for Obama as the primaries get completed.

As usual, I think the Clinton campaign is blowing some pretty desperate smoke.

Cindy   March 12th, 2008 2:39 pm ET

I think Clinton is ignoring states that she cannot win… neither the primary nor the general. Obama on the other hand, has the ability to take these states in both the primary and the general, because he appeals to both Democrats and Republicans.

The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave goes through "all" states, not just through Pennsylvania.

Richard   March 12th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Obama and his supporter are always crying about something.They should focus more on issues. As a Democrat I will never vote for arrogance. He has divided the party.

Go Hillary 2008!

sascha   March 12th, 2008 2:38 pm ET

Oh my God, what are you talking about?? Democrats at its best. Focus on the issues, that's what Americans expect from the next President!!

Jbecks   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Hillary is Hurting her party and country over her and her unloyal husband's own selfish greed.

Jags   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

I love how the democrats started out so "supportive" of one another initially to try and show that they were above what the republicans were doing to one another in ads.. then as soon as Hillary and Obama got into a tight spot, true colors showed! The battle continues, the nation gets bitter as they are torn and in the end McCain gets the presidency cause the two sectors cant stand one another enough to enter the same voting booth. bravo

For Obama   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

First Plouffe states the following:

“We’ll campaign hard there, we’ll try and get as many votes and delegates as we can, but our campaign will not be defined by Pennsylvania.”

And then Clinton adviser Singer states the opposite:

“The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania. So if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?” So which is Hillary people??? Oh I think I know… which ever statement works best for her this week and next???

Double talk from Hillayr once again!!!!!!

I TOO HAVE EXPERIENCE   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

“The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania. So if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?”

What a patheticly weak come back by Clinton's thugs.

Obama '08

Liz in TN   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Hillary carries the biggest states with the most clout which are crucial in the fall campaign.

Go Hillary!

Edd   March 12th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Desperate times call for Desperate measures….

Here's a message to Obama & all his blinded supporters:

Beat us is CA, Beat us in NV, Beat us Ohio & TX, Beat us FL! Beat us in PA! Close the deal! If you can, we will gladly endorse you!!!!!!!!!

How many Idaho or Mississippi can you fit in Ca or Ohio?

Bottomline is: YOU CANNOT WIN IN BIG BLUE STATES!!!!!!!!

Enough of the big speeches, enough of the rhetorics! Meet us in PA!!!!!

Sridhar Prasad   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Is Hillary running for the president of America or only the states of PA, TX and OH?

In a democartic process, the final winner of the Democratic party has to be the candidate who has secures more votes and more pledged delegates put together from all the 52 states of America.

Obama's strong wins in states where Democrats have not done well in the past is a plus. In the general elections, there is very good prospect of Democrats winning these states as well in addition to the usual democaritc states, thereby increasing the odds of winning the presidency.

Jim Kansas   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Tend to agree with Clinton's people. I really do not see Obama carrying many of the states he has won in the primaries in the general election. But an Obama run for the White House in the general election does help McCain quite alot.

Naijaboy   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

Clinton campaign …“The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania. So if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?”

that one na yarns?

Scott   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

It doesnt matter that Clinton won the big states of New York, New Jersey and California. Any democrat will win those states in a general election. The only state that she has won that is relevant at this point is Ohio, I do give her a lot of credit for that. But she also needs to show that she can win in other battleground and traditionally Republican states if the Dems are to win the nomination.

Carlos   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

If Clinton doesn't win the state the state does not matter.

Obama/Colin Powell '08!

Angelika   March 12th, 2008 2:36 pm ET

I'm tired of the "only big states matter" argument. Obama can win the White House with or without PA, but come fall, who will they vote for when Hillary's in trouble?

Tom for moving on   March 12th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

so true. Ms Clinton is a desperate candidate and it is time to heal the party and move on. She can only win by dividing the party. Is it worth it?

Roger B from Portland, OR   March 12th, 2008 2:35 pm ET

The Clinton campaign continues to confuse.

First of all, how stupid is that last comment? Hey Singer, the road to the White House also goes through 49 other states…most of which, OBAMA WON!

Look, it is mathmatically impossible for Clinton to catch up. Even if she won ALL the remaining states by margins larger than 20%, there is no mathmatical way she will over take Obama in pledged delegates. This is including revotes in Michigan and Florida (and no, there is no way those elections can be considered valid).

Wayne   March 12th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Obama is right. This is a NATIONAL campaign. It would be great if only the states you win matter but there are 50 states and in order to win a national election you have to compete in all 50. Obama's 50 state strategy has reeped dividends. He now has won 29 states to Clintons 14. Why is this campaign even going on…he has a 161 delegate lead. There is no way she can beat him in terms of votes.

PeterO   March 12th, 2008 2:33 pm ET

Plouffe is correct. I did some calculations based on state polls and the electoral map. Republicans hold 133 electoral votes no matter who the dem. candidate is. Democrates hold 143 no matter who the candidate is. Hillary picks up 6 for swinging Arkansas from red to blue, and Obama would pick up 21 for swinging CO, NV and OR from red to blue. Hillary picks up 33 for swinging MA and PA from swing to blue, and Obama picks up 21 for swinging DE, HI, MD and NH from swing to blue. At this point Hillary should have a solid 182 and Obama would have 185. They both have equal chance at swing states FL, MI, MO, and OH for another possible 75. There are two states that are blue for Hillary and swing for Obama which equal 33 votes, and four states that are blue for Obama and swing for Hillary which equal 21 votes.

The real eye opener is that Obama puts eight otherwise republican states, or 62 votes, into swing vote possibility whereas Hillary only puts five otherwise republican states, or 44 votes, into swing possibility. The end result is that Hillary is in play for a possible 322 votes, and Obama is in play for a possible 355.

When you need 270 to win it's better to be in play for as many as possible.

Kentucky   March 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

True, Hillary did well in the state of Ohio, but not in the county's where There is a large concentration of industry. Pennsylvania like Michigan has an economy based on Industry more so than Ohio. The people that have lost their jobs in those states have not forgotten the words of Ross Perot about NAFTA. He said that if any president supported NAFTA that there would b e a "sucking sound" in this country, it would be all your jobs leaving the country for countries that pay lower wages. He was right and there is no disputing that. The Clinton's supported and defended that trade agreement. They put alot of people out of work when they made that decision. Its now time to put the Clinton's out of work! Sorry Hillary, its pay back time!!!

J   March 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

to answer singer: the same way he has been winning the popular vote, the most contests (including texas, yes he won texas) and the most pledged delegates.

hkitty   March 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

Obama's strategy in winning in hard-core red states is flawed to its very core!! Dems signing on for him, will see another Rep in the WH in 2009. That's really just a fact.

Kelley   March 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

So all the states that he has won are irrelevant? Geraldine has diverted the focus fromt he campaign.I am so ready for Obama to be in NC. One more note is are any of the campaigns actually talking about issues anymore or are they just punching counter punching?

One America   March 12th, 2008 2:32 pm ET

Note to Hillary Camp:

Barack will win the general election with the help of my vote, and millions of other voters. We are quite frankly, tired of the politics of the past from Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

We'll save you a seat at the inaugural.

One America–Obama 08

evans o.oseki, norway   March 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

WHY AND UNDER WHAT LEGITIMACY DID THE CLINTON CLAN BASE THE WORTH-LESS-NESS OF SOME VOTES FROM GIVEN STATES? AND THEY WANT TO ACT LIKE UNITERS? PAY ATTENTION THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN`T YET VOTED, THIS IS GOT TO BE OVER BY VOTING HER RIGHT OUT. MONSTROUS, DISRESPECTFUL AND PREPOSTEROUS!!!

esther .   March 12th, 2008 2:31 pm ET

Make it happen Obama, we are counting on you. Do not let her, Hillary, get away with even one small untruth that is released to the public.

Fight back, we are behind you all the way.

New York expat in Santo Domingo   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

If Phil Singer is so small-minded to think that if Hillary does win in PA (which is to be determined, which is why we vote in the first place and not merely annoint a nominee), that in the GENERAL ELECTION the Democratic nominee won't win the same state, then he's a political mercinary, not a true Democrat.

Here's the civic lesson CNN should be giving: Primary voters are dedicated voters. As such, those who express party loyalty in a Primary GENERALLY vote in the General Election and GENERALLY vote with their party. THAT is why this has been an exciting primary season, because of the large Democratic turnout which shows an invigorated base. Then, what is desired, is to turn that same enthusiasm up a notch at the Convention and carry it over to the General Election. This is important not only to the Presidential election, but to all Party elections for ALL offices (known as the "shirt-tail" effect).

What has happened this year is that Hillary has brought out some of her own dedicated voters and the Obama "movement" has invigorated a whole new group of voters not previously engaged in the process.

What is at stake now, Mr. Singer, is whether Hillary polarizes the Party such that she'll dampen turnout and hand over the election to McSame. Obama has shown restraint and leadership by not falling prey to the Clinton shinanagins. I hope he is rewarded for it in PA, so Hillary can mull over and think about how her politics of hope turned into politics of shame. For the Party's sake, I hope we take this Primary base, are unified by Obama, rally behind him, and sweep elections in ALL CONTESTS.

And, yes, even though I'm an expat, I am a citizen, I pay taxes, and I vote (in my latest jurisdiction, NY).

suzy   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AJ   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Again Clinton and her camp fail to realize that this is a battle for the nomination right now. She needs to win by HUGE numbers to gain MORE delegates. This isn't about states won in the primary season. But she would have us believe that its about winning the big blue states now, states that, no matter who wins the democratic ticket, will be won by the democrats.

At this point with the exception of 4 states and the TX caucus, Obama has beaten Clinton by more than 15% of the vote in the states he won. And more than not he has blown her out of the water. Clinton on the other hand, with the exception of 2 states, has not been able to beat Obama by more than 20% in any of the "big states" she won. Including NY and CA!

You can check out any delegate map and do the calculations yourself.

clinton muehlenbrock   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Geez they are trying to ignore the fact that 60% of hillary's voters will vote for barack if he has the nomination and that guarantees victory in almost every state republican and democrat lol geez. Common sense here guys lol

GO HILLARY   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

yes, hillary should win pennsylvania b/c it's a DEMOCRATIC primary. dont have independents and republicans to save him. real democrats want hillary. fair weather democrats want obama.

ANTI CLINTONS   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Obama is right as usual about the coward Clinton. So what else is new.

dddanga   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Pennsylvania will end up being around 54-46 Clinton, and she'll end up losing the rest of the states save maybe Kentucky. Is that a good argument? Really? Obama needs to ignore this madwoman and her crazy campaign people because even if he loses Pennsylvania, it won't be by a large enough margin, and Clinton will get to Denver behind Obama in delegates as well as the popular vote. Oh, but she will continue to let her minions (read Ferraro) use disgusting racist remarks and maybe cry some more and possibly say McCain is better than Obama a couple more times. Game on woman, if you want to drag the Party through filth, be my guest. Your legacy as well as your husband's however will be over.

Debbie   March 12th, 2008 2:30 pm ET

Hasn't the Hillary campaign learned yet that they are not running or driving this election but the people are? And how is it that when she
knows she's going to lose a state she moves on to campaign in another but when Obama mentions future primaries he's trying to avoid something? Listen to her and her campaign. Most of the time
the negative comments to Obama are really what they're feeling about themselves. Be careful counting states (people) out. It will come back to haunt you later. And because Hillary and her campaign counts people out, it lets you know that she is not running to become a president for the people of the US but just like the republicans were
a president for the rich, she'll become a president for specific states.
Listen to her and her campaign. The more she talks the more she
exposes her true self.

Adam   March 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

There is a huge difference in losing Penn. in a primary and losing Penn. in the general election. I always laugh when I here the Clinton campaign state they have won in states they need to win in the fall. I mean, come on, do they really think that Obama wouldn't carry California or New York in the general election? It is true the Democratic nominee will need to win key states like Ohio and Penn., however, they will be using the Democratic platform against the Republican platform. There is a major difference in those two. I wish this would end soon because it is dividing the party. The campaigns and their followers (myself included at times) have been overly critical. Its time to bring the party together and focus on the common enemy.

Black Male Dem   March 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

I have been reading many comments. I am so shocked to see so many "anyone but Obama" democrats posting messages. For those who don't know Republicans are divided right now because many of them are disenfranchised by McCain. But one thing they all agree on is "They HATE the Clintons". If Hillary is the nominee she will UNITE the Republican party just because of who she is. How will that help her to win Red States???? This puzzles me to no end (along with her phantom 35 years of experience). Obama has many moderate republicans and independents in his corner. Wouldn't that help him in red states?

Also, if you watched the debates you should see that the policies between the two of them are so similar that during half of the debates they are agreeing with each other. So if you like Hillary because of her policies, then you should like most of Obama's policies as well. As an Obama supporter, I would not jump ship and vote for John "Bush" McCain if she won. So why are Hillary supports claiming to be ready to jump ship. I can't say it is racism, but I can say that it sure smells like it.

Adam   March 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

Yes Obama, But most of those were Cacuses and we know how fair those can be. Like I missed mine in Denver because I had to work during the time they were going on. Guess my vote did not matter to Obama.

Melanie   March 12th, 2008 2:29 pm ET

I really hate how this woman thinks so highly of herself….

JA Cook   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

“The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania. So if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?”

Democrat versus Democrat is not the same as Democrat versus Republican in the Fall.

CB   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

Undervalue, Underestimate and Marginalize must be the new Clinton Campaign Team's slogan under consideration although, a "Borg" style, “We are the Clinton's, Resistance is Futile" fits snugger. Hillary doesn't want to shed any light on the fact she is getting her proverbial tail kicked in over half the states. She was only won states where she can effectively incite fear and division, expertly manipulating the media. Hillary, the sands of time are not on your side. The bells for change have started tolling for you across America. Get one more choir dance in before your swansong. Like it or not Obama is the People's Choice.

Eric   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

that's stupid, i mean how many democrats are going to vote for John McCain over either Obama and Clinton. Losing a state in the primaries doesn't make it automatic to lose in the general election.

Pon Mao   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

DNC established a rule long time ago, MI and FL knowingly break the rule, therefore should be punished. If they can get away with breaking the rule without punishment, then where is DNC's credibility? Next time if some other states decide to change the rule, will DNC be able to object to that?

Clinton knows about the rule, and she agreed to it before. Now she's behind in delegate count, and she wants to change the rule to suit her needs? How disgusting!

foday   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

The path to 1600 pennsylvania avenue is in Washington not Pennsylvania state. I guess phil singer does not know the names of the street in washington. To remind phil Singer Oboma worn the path to 1600 pennsylvania Ave. show sign of leading to the white house. Phil look for an other respond. If you are saying the path to 1600 avenue goes through pennsylvania you did not know what say because that street is not in pennsylvania state. By the Phil can you tell your campaign to stop dividing the party or we will all become losers to Mccain.

JD   March 12th, 2008 2:28 pm ET

The problem with OHIO and Texas, is there were many cross over Republicans who voted for Clinton. So I would not take her wins there as laid in stone come the fall . Nobody will energize the Republicans more then Hillary Clinton .

And for all the "quiet" from the Obama Camp on the horror show of the Clintons, Monica, Paula, Jennifer, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillary stealing things from the White House then returning them –the Republicans are dying for the Clintons to go down in flames.

B Palladino   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

I would like to know if Senator Clinton's staff is clairvoyant, first they predict that you have to win in Ohio to win the presidential election, now they say the path to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is through Pennsylvania, I'm confused, is it Ohio or Pennsylvania? With this much clairvoyance among the Clinton staff, why do we need the primaries and caucuses, their crystal balls have spoken, forget the voters of The United States of America…..

OGA   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Obama may redefine battle ground states in November if he secure the nomination, but the question is, would that compensate for possible losses in traditional democratic stronghold?

Charlotte   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

If Obama thinks he can win the general election, he is in for a rude awakening. Where a mere fraction of the state voters turn out in a caucus, Obamas tatics won't work in the general election, there aren't any caucuses. In states that held caucuses Obama did very well, in states with a primary not so good. Furthermore, he has yet to win a big blue state. This does not bode well for him in the general election. Maybe he would like to CHANGE the general election to an all caucus election. The older generation and the infirmed cannot stand for hours to caucus, that is the only reason he won most of those. In Nevada, where people could vote at their place of employment he didn't do so well, now did he?

Goodheart   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

Who is his campaign to talk? What hypocricy. Obama doesn't want a re-vote in Florida or Michigan because he knows he will lose. He wants to play by the rules and steal the nomination.

The less people that vote, the better he does. That's why he's won so many caucuses and ran up his delegate count (not everyone votes in caucuses). Take that with no Florida and Michigan votes, he's hardly the Democrats choice.

wait a minute   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

I was just in Pittsburgh for a week-long workshop in late 2007.
The consensus I got from the local people was not a very hopeful future.

I was told doctors were leaving the state for other states, jobs were disappearing and former miners were driving buses or waiting tables if they are lucky.

The more important part is that young college graduates want to leave the state altogether, because there is little hope left in the Pittsburgh area. I also watched Governor Rendell's speeches in the hotel as I'd like to know what kind of governor he is for PA. I hope the people have a better opinion for 2008. Which candidate can convince and actually serve PA better?

JA Cook   March 12th, 2008 2:27 pm ET

The only states that matter are the ones that Hillary wins.

All other states are inconsequential and shouldn't count. No one really cares about their votes.

Michigan and Florida should count too. Their votes do matter and their voices should be heard.

RSL   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Well that stands to reason. Who cares if Obama won Wyoming. He won't carry the state. Never mind that the state voted for Mitt Romney and Fred Thomsan. They had already dropped out of the race. The Media should try to stop attacking Clinton. However, they should at least be as critical of Obama just like they are of McCain and Clinton.

God help me, I am defending a Clinton.

therealist   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Why should Obama be more concerned with the blue states? Like their going to vote red in Nov??

Katherine   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

So, the democrats who vote for Hillary in the PA primary would vote Republican in the general? That's the argument? Otherwise, it's kind of irrelevant who wins the primary.

Kat   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Apparently, there's a bit of clairvoyance at play here. How can anyone predict whether or not Obama would win against a Rep. candidate in the general election ?? The races , so far, have been Obama v. Clinton…….Mr. Singer's statement makes no sense, as we have no idea of how Obama would do against a Republican opponent . The polls DO have him winning by up to 10% over McCain, should an election be held tomorrow. Hilliary would not fare as well………..

CW in DC   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

Isn't this the same thing Clinton's people said about Iowa, Ohio, and Texas? Pick a state already.. jeez!! They can't have it both ways and say the small states don't count (in essence saying their votes don't matter), but yet try and fight tooth and nail to get MI and FL seated. They make my head hurt.

Austin, Texas   March 12th, 2008 2:26 pm ET

no, you can't

CLK from Texas   March 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

I don't get the arguments they Clinton campaign is making. If Obama is the nominee, most Democrats (not all) will vote for the Democrat. I can't see a lot of Democrats crossing over to vote McCain. Again, the Clintons are sounding illogical and desperate.

As a Texan, I am a Republican. However, if Obama is the candidate, I guarantee you that my family, myself, and a lot of my Republican friends will cross over for him. We like him. But we will help McCain if Hilary is the nominee.

Balaiso, Everett, WA   March 12th, 2008 2:25 pm ET

WHY DON't YOU JUST POST THE MEMO CNN???????????

Black Man in Dixie   March 12th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Why can't Obama win Penn? Not enough of his "base?" Why do they think he'll "do well" in NC?

New Polling   March 12th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

How is it Clinton get's to define who wins? The winner is the winner is the winner. No matter how much they talk about Pennsylvania.

Obama support in Iowa   March 12th, 2008 2:24 pm ET

Hillary – you are weakening the Democratic party. Please withdraw now before you cause irrepairable harm. Be a gracious loser. Obama supporters will not follow you because you have shown such poor leadership skills. Your judgment regarding campaign tactics lacks integrity and strength of character. You will always have 16 more years of experience because you're 16 years older. McCain will have 12 years over you. Experience isn't the issue. Character is. You need to get out of the race before you ruin our chances in November

Michael   March 12th, 2008 2:23 pm ET

Whoever the Dem nominee is will win there in November. Does the Clinton camp honestly beleive that because Obama didn't win the California primary, he wouldn't win in in the general either? C'mon, there's zero correlation between the primary and the general election.

A.Y.   March 12th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

Yeah, Pennsylvania's winning in April is the end-all-be-all determinate of how the state will vote in November – if Hillary's not the nominee, EVERYONE knows that Pennsylvania, like New York and California and all the other "big states" will swing to McCain (please note that was said with enough sarcasm to fill Lake Erie).

A delegate is a delegate, if we must seat them all
Then a state is a state, no matter how small.

Ironic how Rhode Island suddenly became so important once it counted as a "Hillary win", being the smallest state in the country.

Mad in Texas   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

How ignorant can you people be. Why should she waste her time in these state's that are over run with African Americans who are voting for Obama at a 90% rate. You call caucasions racist. Pardon me. But, let me tell you that Obama can not win the election with all the ignorant white people that are voting for him right now. He better be wise enough to know this. If he wins the Democrat nomination all the white vote he can get is the ones he is getting now. That won't be enough to beat McCain. OBAMA & HILLARY have destroyed both camps chance of becoming President. They could have won if they'd joined together way back when. It's Too late now to even consider a joint ticket for the two. I wouldn't vote for them anyway if an OBAMA was on the ticket. He is a fraud and a liar. HILLARY 08

Brian from Los Angeles   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

I just hope that if Hillary is not treated fairly by the democratic party that she and all, and I mean ALL of her supporters put their support to anyone other than Barack Obama as their way to get their true and reaonsed voices finally heard.

Media haven't given her a fair shake, the DNC hasn't given her a fair shake and now that the Democrats realize that the truth of whom hey are likely to nominate, they now realize they just might have proven again that their choice was built on emotion and not achievement and accomplishment. Well democratic party you now have to reap what you have sowed.. All the stars should be aligned for a new party to be elected into power.

Barack believes in change Americans can NOT believe in, higher taxes, bigger governement and less security to our country.

Moderates and Independents throughout this country will vote for the candidate that provides better security, lower taxes and less government. And they won't be voting on who can be the best speech writer of the problems of the past. They will vote for the best problem solver. A concept Barack hasn't considered too much in any of his eloquent speeches, and that is solutions to problems. No higher taxes doesn't lower deficits or improve business.

D in MA   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Democrats love HRC. Why wouldn't she be able to compete?

Obama's won twice the states, but he isn't twice as far ahead…Why?

The answer's in the numbers- There were more voters for Hillary in my home town of Fall River MA, than there were caucus-goers in the entire state of Wyoming… Hillary Clinton is the Democrats best chance in November!

The caucus system does not accurately represent the "will of the people."

Hillary unsensord visit youtube. get the picture yourself.   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Every state should count Hillar campaign management! There is no Big state small state red state blue state avantages, all states is what form the UNITE STATE OF AMERICA.

08 for Obama   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

The Clintons should be aware of the people's voice, instead of going around and telling us what states should or should not count. This woman and company have been beaten over and over again, and if you think I am lying, then look for yourself. Obama has won twice as many states, he leads the popular votes, leads in the number of delegates, leads in handsomeness, attractiveness, electability…This is not an opinion, it is a fact and there is no way Democrats are going to pick a nominee on the basis of nothing (Clinton) or I should say on the basis of a few bigger states! I believe that every state matters, and there is no such thing as bigger or smaller states. Obama is ahead, will be ahead and will get the nomination period. And if you are not down with that, then I got two words for you; STOP HATING!

NYC and ASHAMED   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

This is exactly the mind set we don't need in the white house. Hillary thinks the people that matter are people in the big STATES. I'm from NYC and a women. I'm ashamed of how Hillary has conducted herself throughout this process. I WILL NEVERRRRRRRRR VOTE FOR HER and will encourage others to do so.

JJ   March 12th, 2008 2:18 pm ET

Now if only people would wake up! Obama won't win in Nov, because of this very reason. Oh well

Haley Rodman Clemson   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Truth be told, she has won the battleground states. It's Obama that doesn't win the ones that will have the big impact in November.

Charles   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

North Carolina will be central battleground? Guess what – winning Florida and Ohio and holding on to PA and MI are a little bit more important and feasible. And how about this: Clinton is out, Guliani campaigns for McCain and how much time and money Obama will have to spend just trying t hold on to NY and NJ. And CA with Arnie who can say that MCCain as President will gvern the same way he did in CA?
Obama guys played a very smart campaign but clearly can't see strategically – if Obama looses the same way Mondale did in 1984 or Dukakis in 1988, his political career will be over.

Tim, NC   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

After Pennsylvania & NC, there wil be virtually no change in the delegate count and Obama will still be in the lead in the popular vote. FL & MI will be split 50/50. Then, the Superdelegates will have no choice but to weigh in to take President Obama over the top.

CB   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Clinton needs to wrap herself in the white flag and jump in a river… her husband is a Liar… guess it runs in the family. Seriously, CNN quit giving this lady airtime…

DeniseGA   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

This is very true!

!DO HILLARY SUPPORTERS, REALLY BELIEVE NY, NJ, MS, CA, WILL NOT BE BLUE IN NOVEMBER? Please, her argument tht she has won the big states does not fly. She didn't even win big in those states. Obama, has the chance of pulling in republicans and independents. HE WON WITH WHITE VOTE IN ALL THOSE MIDWEST STATES, NOT AFRICN-AMERICANS. Hillary cannot draw republican or independents, and we need to think about what is best for the party. NOT OUR EGOS OR BIRTH RIGHT!

Peggy   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Clinton is disrespectul to many states that she deemed unimportant. Isnt she the one saying to NOT disenfranchise voters?!

Too little too late Hillary, your attitude is disgusting.

Ruslyn Schultz   March 12th, 2008 2:17 pm ET

Obama will easily win most of the states Hillary has won in the general if it comes to that. McCain has no chance at winning a blue state. It's not like Obama wouldn't win California or New York.

If anything, I think Obama has a better chance of turning a red state blue than the other way around. I don't think Hillary could either in all honesty. He's polarized the youth vote much better in any campaign in recent memory, and that is the key to make the red states blue, or at least very purple.

Sarah L, Fayetteville, AR   March 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

All states matter. Period. I'm tired of the notion that this country is divided along the lines of blue and red states. It's stupid. Most states vote roughly 45-55% either way. All you have to do is catch an additional 6% to shift the vote.

Also, why is that, any time Obama wins a state, it's expected? But, when Hillary wins a state that had her up by 20 points, it's a come back?

Let's stop counting people out. If Hillary cares about the votes of everyone, shouldn't she care more about the little states?

Lilia, from PA   March 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

All the Clinton camp are pathetic liaers. They are blind by the truth.

It doesn't make any difference to them who has most delegates but who wins PA. That is not how you elect a candidate.

Hillay close your tent and go home.

HH   March 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Hillary can not win and will not win states like–

Washington,North Dakota,Colorado,Nevada,Iowa,Missouri,Minnesota,Virginia,Maryland,Wisconsin.

The only states Hillary can brag about winning that are usually republican are-

Ohio,Arkansas,New Mexico.

All the other states are ones democrats will win.

HIllary plays the American people for stupid. You have to think are states like New York California New Jersey really going to be republican.

Illinois   March 12th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

Every state is important at this time in the game. And if MI and FL delegates do get seated, Obama will lose his current lead and he will be in second place. But I doubt the pundits or anyone else will be shouting for him to take himself out of the race to "save the democratic party" like they've been doing to Hillary.

What some of you people don't realize is that Obama is just as corrupt as Clinton….he's just better at hiding his indiscretions for the time being.

Johnson   March 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

If Hillary wasn't there Obama would be winning anyways. Besides, the amount of people voting even when he loses is significantly larger than the turnout that the republicans have been getting. so i don't see this as a big issue.

Jackson   March 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Hillary is winning blue states. Blue. Meaning they historically vote Democrat. So if Obama is the nominee he will be taking those states. It's also nice that he has a strong foothold in the red states too and a generally good rapport with the people. Clinton sounds as if she's saying "Democrats living in red states are dumb; their voices may as well not even be heard. We'll just stick to trying to win a swing state and that's it. Winning by 1 is still winning."

Sebastian francis   March 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

Obama and Racism: A Reality Check
It seems like Obama plays the race card in a very subtle and shrewd way when it is advantageous to him and cries foul when he thinks it is going to hurt him. In Iowa, Wyoming and other white dominated states, he portrays himself as the candidate of unity. In South Carolina and Mississippi where black votes make a difference, he trumps the race card to win. He instigated the blacks in South Carolina by accusing Bill Clinton of racist remark, by taking a quotation out of context. In Mississippi, he accused Hillary of releasing the photo Obama in Kenyan dress when he thought he can gain some votes with the African roots. During the Ohio debate, he told the audience that he doesn’t think that Hillary camp is behind the release. Once he won the Mississippi state, he left the state even without victory rally. Why? Now he is going to Pennsylvania. And you know why? I don’t have to explain. What a hypocrisy? Now he wants to disfranchise the millions of voters in Michigan and Florida because he knows he is going to win them. Do you want a president who wants to disfranchise millions of people and become the democratic nominee at their expense?

Eli   March 12th, 2008 2:15 pm ET

When did North Carolina ever become a battleground states for Democrats. Obamas team is trying to cover up and get peoples mind off Hillary Clinton winning the large and true Democratic battleground states. Super delegates were set up to watch politics and know who would be best for the country and to vote for who they think would be able to lead this country. If they were suppose to just go with who had the most votes there would be no reason to have super delgates we would just let whoever had the most votes be the nomination. Now if the news media does not want to say this they will be the reason we have conflict and riots when the actual super delegates vote.

Alex H   March 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

So only democrats who live in democrat states deserve to have a say in their candidate?

I don't know how people can't see that Clinton only cares about states that she knows she can win. The rest of you don't matter.

OBAMA 08   March 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

SHE HAS A BETTER PLAN, FRAUD. IT HAS WORKED BEFORE FOR HER AND BILL, MANY TIMES.

mk   March 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

So the Clinton campaign does not feel that ANY of the States matter unless they are big enough?
Does this mean, if she were president she would only feel obligated to fairly represent those people in the BIG states? She would be the president only for those she thinks matter?
And people wonder WHY Obama is so popular? It ain't cuz he's black, its cuz he ain't HILLARY…Maybe someone needs to call Geraldine and clue her in to this fact.
I am a small state resident who is sick to death of being dissed by Hillary Clinton

BK   March 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Most Florida Democrats will vote Republican in Nov. if their votes are not counted as is. Obama sending Al Sharpton down here to make sure our votes aren't counted is disgusting. This election is nothing more than a Civil Rights Movement. Obama is more racist than any white person ever thought about being.

Jeffrey   March 12th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

Neither Obama nor Clinton will win in November. They have splintered the Democratic Party like no one ever has. Obama is going to need most of Hillary's supporters to win and Hillary is going to need most of Obama's supporters to win and I do not see that happening at all. As a supporter on one of them (it doesn't matter which one), I have grown to dislike the other a lot and at this point in time will not vote for the other in the general election. That is just how it is, and it is going to take a miracle to reverse this terrible trend in the Democratic and the ultimate loss in the general election for Democrats.

Mike   March 12th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Unbelievable that this is coming from the Obama camp… She has been at every state during her campaign… how can you say she is won't compete in battleground states… all of this negative talk coming from Obama has really told most Americans that he really does not stand for change and unity!!!

Every analyst and democrat has noticed that this race is way too close… if Mr. Plouffe were right on this matter the super delegates would have backed Obama all ready… all of this talk about math… He has won twice as many states but only leads by 125 delegates??? I believe that proves the big state argument !!!

Obama will win the delegate count by a slight margin… he will lose the popular vote… it will come down to the super delegates to decide who is most likely to win in November!!!

Shame on David Plouffe for trying to spin this story !!!

Vince   March 12th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

As a residence of NC I can tell you that Obama is far more popular than Hillary, I expect him to win this state by at least 10 percent.

As for the general election, it'll be tough but Obama at least has a chance to win Hillary has zero chance to win here.

This state has a lot of young people, it naturally favors Obama.

Though the media doesn't recognize NC as a large state, it's just a little bit smaller than Ohio and Penn. in population.

Jesse   March 12th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

The Clinton Campaign is only going to win Pennsylvania because of the high population of prejudice whites. Most of the states she has won in either have a lot of whites that are not to fond of blacks or Latinos that are not to fond of blacks. Clinton's campaign had tried over and over again to make this about race and the media also citing every time Obama won a state with a high percentage of black as if he did not win over a dozen states with a high percentage of whites. What Clinton is trying to do now is really tap into the prejudice of white America and that will be her only hope, to make Obama look like a black man which he has been able to escape and appeal across all racial dividers. Only problem with that is the majority of blacks and the white who are for Obama will not vote for her in the general election because most are already turned off to her and see the type of president she will be just by how runs for the position.

Goooooooo Obama !!!!!

Slick Hilly   March 12th, 2008 2:13 pm ET

Don't tell Ferraro about that "white" flag comment.

Sean   March 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Now who's saying that certain states don't matter? Maybe those states that are red are so because candidates like Hillary write them off as unimportant!

Norma   March 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

SHUT UP!!!

Jenny, Rio Vista, CA   March 12th, 2008 2:12 pm ET

And how will Hialary Clinton win without the black vote, without the young vote, and without 50% of the rest of population who despise the Clinton name? If you want to bring out the republican voters in droves, put Clinton on the ticket.

And by the way, I despise the Clintons myself now that they have shown themselves as racist, power hungry, degrading, and downright disgusting,

People talk about how the old women will not vote for Obama, believe me there are a lot more people in the country that wouldn't vote for a CLINTON.

kevin from alaska   March 12th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Ever since SNL did some skit about CNN the media has been completely bias in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Hillary now dictates what states "matter" and what gets coverage. She says Ohio and Texas matter and Mississippi and Wyoming don't and the headlines are: 'Big wins for Hillary in Ohio, Texas, Obama beaten' and then 'Obama wins as expected (there are a lot of blak people), Hillary ready for PA'

How come Pennsylvania counts for so much and a state like North Carolina, who have almost as many delegates, gets no mention when they vote just weeks after PA? Is it because Obama is leading by double digits there?

Laura   March 12th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

I'm a democrat in NC and will vote Republican for the first time in my life if Barack Obama is the nominee.

VOTER FOR TRUTH AND DIGNITY IN AMERICA   March 12th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

Now, Pennsylvania. Do we want change? Do we want our
candidates to make bribes or promises to A man like Rendall
to be named Sec. of Energy when time allows. Hillary is no
different than the Republicans: Bush, Cheney, McCain, she
learned from them.

I DO NOT TRUST THAT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pennsylvanians, can we hear from you. Is she really that popular
with you? Is Rendall that popular. He has already announced that
he will not run again for Governor. Is that because he knows he
won't win? Let us know, Please?

Retired, Professional w/woman of 63 for real change in Washington.

OBAMA 2008

Les   March 12th, 2008 2:11 pm ET

THe problem with the Clinton's argument is that they have done well in states that democrats usually win. Unfortunately, that is not enough to win the general election. Obama does better in states that democrats don't usually win and thus has the advantage in the general election in winning those states as well as traditionally democratic states.

An Army veteran   March 12th, 2008 2:10 pm ET

The role of the primaries is to see what is the will of the Democrats. There is no historical corelation between states won in primaries vs states won in General Elections. Hillary is just going for the wins where she knows she can get them to appear alive in this race. Anyone with 5th grade math skills can see that she cannot win.

Hillary please bow out with dignity.

Carla J   March 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

The funny thing is that the latest Rasmussen poll shows Obama 1 point behind McCain in PA and Clinton 2 points behind McCain in PA. Sure, the polls aren't 100% reflective of what will happen, but the idea that in the general election that Clinton will definitely win PA and Obama will definitely lose PA is absurd. The proof is in the pudding.

Mike in Ohio   March 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

If Clinton was so strong a candidate, she wouldn't lose the 20-30% point leads she's had in every state since the beginning of the contest. The truth is, voters have buyer's remorse regarding HRC. Once given a clearly better choice in Obama, Clinton's lead begins to shrink and shrink dramatically in EVERY state. I know that superdelegates must be very concerned about this

OBAMA' BAD CONCEPT   March 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

Simply thinking OBama can beat a war hero..

Simply thinking OBama can carry the republican states..

Simply thinking the Republicans (Goliath) are salivating at their chance to get him..

Flip Flopping already did John Kerry in..It will certainly make Obama look silly again!

Hillary 08!

polly molly   March 12th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

Well, I am sure that with the new Clinton Campaign slogan, they ought to keep a low profile, not to mention Eliot's scandal, and we dont know the list of people there, (some client #000 BC ) might be listed as one of the club's clients!!! Lord what a mess.
Clintons new campaing slogan: racism !!!

Jim Shimmer   March 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Clinton is the worst person ever. She will stoop to any low to win. She cannot win. Almost 40% of the country strong dislikes her and she sure has lost independent and african american votes.

How can we let such a pathetic person run our honorable country???

Please, wake up. She will do anything to win. She represents the same ol dirty nasty politics of washinton.

fred   March 12th, 2008 2:07 pm ET

AMEN Phil Singer, there is no way Obama can win in November!!

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