Comments on: Obama camp resistant to mail-in vote

By: Linda

Linda — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:00:29 +0000

Shame on you, Hillary.

If you really care about the families that are having a hard time financially, then use the money that would be spent on a silly ego election for you (you knew the rules and agreed to them) for people who really need it. These are people whose entire day is spent trying to just make it through with something to eat and a roof over ther heads.

And you want to squander all that money for yourself.

By: Debra

Debra — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:00:22 +0000

It seems like there is room for a lot of problems with a mail-in vote. The DNC needs to stop being cheap and fund a full re-do for the sake of fairness to both sides, effieciency, and expediency.

By: Gary Mitchell - Vancouver WA

Gary Mitchell - Vancouver WA — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:00:15 +0000

I think your headline is a complete misrepresentation. Senator Obama just wants to make certain that the vote if there is one is fairly executed and secure from fraud. It is the hope of every Obama supporter I talk to that Florida and Michigan voters be allowed to voice their choice for this primary and let the chips fall where they may.

By: "Keeping it real"

"Keeping it real" — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:59 +0000

Clinton and her campaign are crazy as hell!

By: changing times

changing times — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:57:58 +0000

Obama has never said he doesn't want FL & MI to count. He simply says he will play by whatever fair rules the DNC sets. What's wrong with that? You can't just throw vote by mail together at the last minute without some stringent guidelines and security checkpoints to ensure the process is fair and equitable. MY God what is happening to this party. Are we really going to let it be destroyed like this. Why can't we all just respect each other in spite of our differences?! White America doesn't understand Black American and Black America doesn't understand White America. But we now have an opportunity to put all the hatred behind us and do something postive and magnificent together to heal this country. The Republicans are having a field day with us. Let's prove them wrong and get our act together and win this election!

By: Paul Naranjo

Paul Naranjo — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:55:19 +0000

HILLARY 08

Florida and Michigan will say loud and clear that they want you to be Our President in this election.
The FLA votes should be counted just as they are, while Michigan could have a new primary. Now Obama is afraid, cause he knows this will in fact put an end to his so called" momentums" There is not such thing 'cause no one will attain the desired number of delegates without FLA and Michigan.
Howard Dean, are your rules stronger than the voice of 2.5 million voters who actually belong to your party? Btwy, have you realized that FLA's primaries's date was moved by the Republicans and not so by the Democrats. Then, why are you punishing your own party members, Shame on you if you disenfranchise the voice of your voters. Then no candidate should appear in the Democratic ballot for the general election if the voice of your party is not important to you.

HILLARY – Commander in Chief of the United States of America.

By: Fernandez

Fernandez — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:53:00 +0000

Here is the divider again. Obama will not agree to the mail in vote, because he is sure to lose in a landslide in both Florida and Michigan and In April he will also lose PA. Obama should be blaming the DNC not Hillary. His lead will disappear after these elections.

In addition he would not want to give up his campaign contributions to support a re-do, if he loses. Obama has raised funds in Florida. I think the press should pay for the re-do

By: A-Man

A-Man — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:52:09 +0000

Can some one tell me why the Democratic party pays for the state election if they change their date? If it is not going to count why pay for it, would that not put an end to such things? As a Canadian observing the election I cannot understand wht is to like about Hillary? I do not know Obama but at least he is a chance for something better. Hillary is the one that is only a senator and in this race simply because she is Bill's wife. Also why have they involved their daughter in this process. Yes she loves her mom and obviously wants her to win and do anything, but if they care more for her then themselves and winning, any decent parent would keep their child out of this whole mess, not have her all over speaking to strangers at her age.

By: Kay

Kay — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:51:49 +0000

How can Obama claim to be a uniter if his campaign is pushing to disenfranchise 1.7 million voters here in Florida ?
They don't want to seat the delegates as-is and mail-in vote unacceptable to them. It clearly means that they don't care about Florida voters. Seriously, how can Obama win the General Elections without carrying Florida or Ohio ?

By: Hillary 08 Ohio

Hillary 08 Ohio — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:50:46 +0000

Let MI & FL VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!

By: I LOVE AMERICA, FLORIDA

I LOVE AMERICA, FLORIDA — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:50:13 +0000

I am a floridian but I am also against the vote by mail. I woul like to see a primary where the candidates could first come in and campaign on the terrain then people could head to the polls and pick their nominee.

By: precious

precious — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:50:05 +0000

I believe that all the candidates played by the rules - no campaigning, but the candidates names were on the ballot, which gave the people of Florida a "choice". The "choice" was that everyone could "vote", but their votes will not be "counted". But the "reality" is that, thousands, if not millions of people, decided on that "special" day to let his/her voice be heard, for the candidate that he/she supports. Isn't that the democratic way? Whose voices are the strongest/loudest? the candidate(s) or the "voter(s)"? What is an amendment? Can we "amend" the rules? In all fairness, give each candidate his/her share of delegates based on the voices of the voters in Florida. As for Michigan, only one candidate name appeared on the Ballot, and the reality is that the voters' "choice" in Michigan can be considered as "limited" based on this fact. So, in all fairness, a resolution would be to "split" or "divide", since this is where we are at now in this "democratic" race.

By: franklahai

franklahai — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:50:02 +0000

thought the road to the White House was through OHIO (and TX as the firewall), what happened here? Just a foolish thought. I guess the OHIO people are now irrelevant!! By June, the PA people will equally be irrelevant; it would be FL or MI. Aren't we tired of using and abusing people for political gains in this nation?

For Catholics, I urge you not only to contribute money, but to say a decade of the Rosary for the anointment of a decent and God-fearing man, such as Obama, to regain the White House. We are a nation of rules and laws, including our basic moral virtues.

By: Donna

Donna — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:49:13 +0000

Has anyone stopped, and taken a good look at this big political sewer were all swimming around in, it's all a big mess, and if anyone is wandering why, it's all because of this so called great woman who has all this experience and has no clue that she is completely out of order. First of all we have all lost site of what this country really stands for, we say on our US currency IN GOD WE TRUST, if this were really true than we would not be entertaining Hillary Clinton with this great idea of being President, in (1 Timothy Chapter 2) God's words states that he does not permit a woman to have authority over a man, but to be in silence, For Adam was formed first, then Eve, Adam was not deceived but the woman was deceived. I strongly believe that if this country continue to proceed with this idea of Hillary Clinton for President than we are putting our Country at a great risk for for a fall or the (Warth of God).

By: Craig

Craig — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:45:43 +0000

Words not actions again, Obama did want legislation to establish a vote by mail program but now he does not want these two states to vote by mail.

Will it never end with Obama. Always on the record saying one thing and then doing another.

In Ohio, it was denials about NAFTA and his campaign meeting with Canada and describing his talk as "just rhetoric". He denied it on several Cleveland TV stations and then the facts come out they did meet.

In Nevada, it was denials about playing the race card and then Tim Russert pulls out a four-page talking point memo the Obama campaign was using to press the issue.

In Texas, it was Obama was ready to be President and then his own campaign adviser says he is "not ready".

Throughout the campaign, Obama has chastised Hillary for not having a firm withdrawal date for Iraq then another foreign policy adviser to Obama cannot be held to what he is saying in his campaign because it was not valid.

When he talks about those who will do anything and say anything to win an election it is directly applying to him and his campaign.

By: ANTI CLINTONS

ANTI CLINTONS — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:44:38 +0000

Of course the Clintons are trying to change the rules to benefit her. This slob of a candidate just can't get it right at all! Prove that Obama co-sponsored a bill last June that would establish a vote by mail program, it would be when the two states of FL and MI would "still" play by the rules set for by the DNC! not get around it like she thinks us, the voters are so stupid, she wants to slice it , dice it and gewt there way no mater what! The whole reason that this problem with these two states belongs to the state government of the two states and becasue of Howard Dean, he made the rules, now he is going to be brought to his standards now that he had "better" stick to "rules and regulations" of the DNC that will show the worls what a gutless lying jerks the libs are and they don't think that people see this. If it goes to court, then we are going to see for the third election in the row for the presidency that there will be more questions. Has this country learned yet form the past mistake...NO it hasn't if the lib liar Clintons are the mail in vote and have the idiot Howard Dean change the rules because the Clintons will pressure him to do it so help me, mark my words that is what will happen. Bur obama will over come and beat her fat butt still. Dean will probably cave in under pressure to try to apease Clinton, what a coward he is.

By: MelanieL

MelanieL — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:44:27 +0000

This is really dangerous territory for us Democrats and says a lot about Barack Obama that in order to grasp the nomination, he is prepared to trample on the voting rights of nearly 2 million voters in Florida and Michigan. It seems to be a trend, play dirty (airing hundreds of tv ads that showed in Florida), and cry 'foul' if you don't get the result you like. I think it's time that all the Dems who turned out in droves to vote in those two disenfranchised states got very vocal. Demand that their votes are counted, or that there is a mail vote. Voters in Florida and Michigan are being disenfranchised - they must demand to have their voting rights upheld and the delegates must be seated at conference according to their vote. We, the electorate, should settle for nothing less than equality for all voters. The agent for 'hope' and 'change' is sending a loud message to millions of voters by his unwillingness to listen to the will of the people because he doesn't like the message. Seems like politics as usual from Sen Obama after all.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:44:07 +0000

What is new? Hillary wants to "win at all costs" to realize her self-fulfilling prophecy. She is scary. If she is the nominee, like many others, I will not vote in the general election.

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:43:01 +0000

Cry Baby Obama, you are like a spoied child. It has to be your way.
CNN is Anti Clinton and for Obama. So I doubt they will post this.

Go Hillary 2008!

By: Cathy

Cathy — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:40:08 +0000

Obama always preaches – let the people decide – ok that is what they are trying to do...If he won those states he would be for it, so why is he acting like Clinton is the only person wanting these two states to vote.

By: Sean McM

Sean McM — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:39:14 +0000

He counts on social pressure of caucuses.............we should NEVER again have anything but secret ballot in America!

By: NEVEROBAMA

NEVEROBAMA — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:38:36 +0000

As long as these votes are counted it does not have to be mail in ballot. THEY NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THESE 2 STATES HEARD!!!

I HOPE THEY SEE PAST OBAMA REHTORIC – PLEASE, PLEASE
VOTE HILLARY!!

VOTE HILLARY!!!
VOTE HILLARY!!!
VOTE HILLARY!!!

By: james martin california

james martin california — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:37:07 +0000

mail in vote is the most absurd process one can think of in the state of Florida. Do the democrats really want to allow Florida to control their chances again. Florida is a republican state period. In the general election they have no chance of carrying the state. If their candidate was to receive a majority of the votes the election folk in Florida would make sure the votes would not be counted. Can't you imagine hanky panky followed by democrats going to court to resolve the problem. I mean it would be heaven for the republicans. Don't you think the governor of Florida is salavating just thinking about it. Divide the delegates 50 50 and move on.

By: D in MA

D in MA — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:35:36 +0000

the rules say that FL and MG don't need to redo the elections. They need only appeal to the DNC before the convention...If Obama wants to stand in the way of voting rights, for "the Rules"...He should at least learn them first. Candidates were not required to remove their names from the MG ballot, but Obama and Edwards did so anyway... Why? What political purpose did that serve? Hillary didn't break the rules by keeping her name on there. Hillary wants to follow the rules in resolving this election controversy....Besides, in American history, how many voters have been disenfranchised by "the rules?" How can he claim to be able to win in Florida, when he's fighting to keep their votes from counting!! That's some serious audacity! We need real unity. We should never have done this to two important states. Its up to both campaigns to ensure a speedy resolution.

By: carrie

carrie — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:35:28 +0000

no chance to rig for the clintons.
yeah
obama 08

By: Pon Mao

Pon Mao — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:34:46 +0000

Mail-in-vote is very prone to fraud. Just imaging how long it will take to verify the mail-in ballot in FL, knowing this state has a history in miss-counting "Chad", the result may not be available until 2010!

By: clarity

clarity — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:34:21 +0000

Obama is not supporting the vote of Florida and Michigan, because if they are out, it benefits him!

OBAMA IS NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE PEOPLE!
OBAMA IS LOOKING OUT OR HIMSELF!

The thing is that even though rules are rules, some rules are bad rules, and these ones fit that description.

Presumably folks are aware of the bad rules of the past that have done a lot to damage the human rights of minorities, including the African-American community. Then people should also be able to recognize when rules of today don't serve the interest of the whole population.

Granted, in their frustration at an unfair and outdated primary system, a couple of elected officials made hasty decisions. That does not mean that millions of their electorate should be disenfranchised. And that is EXACTLY what will happen if the votes in Florida and Michigan are NOT either counted or re-done!

Shame on Obama!
It seems to be very clear that Obama isn't in this for the people, but only for himself. Otherwise he would activley throw all his support behind the effort to ensure that the votes of the electorate in Florida and Michigan counted, one way or another.

SHAME ON OBAMA!

By: doc

doc — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:33:30 +0000

Roland S. Martin says Florida and Michigan blew their shot in the delegate process by moving up their primaries

. Is Roland S. Martin saying we should not count over a million votes just so we can elect a black man? Does Sen. Obama feel the same way?

By: John

John — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:32:50 +0000

Sen Obama wants all the super delates to go him (being that he is ahead). Doesn't want to count Fla and Mich (because he lost and will must likely lose again) . . . that sounds very reasonable. About as reasonable as George Bush!!!!

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:31:36 +0000

The Obama camp wants to suppress the vote in Florida, plain and simple. They know they will lose and they are denying the voice of Floridians in the process. It's disgusting coming from the candidate of "hope" and "change." I guess by "change" Obama means "shortchanging" voters who don't agree with him.

By: Disenfanchised ,FL

Disenfanchised ,FL — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:30:57 +0000

I live in florida and I knew our votes would not count LAST YEAR! I would like to know why the people in Florida and Michigan don't place the blame solely where it belongs, with the Republican governors and legislators in these two states. If you no longer want to be DISENFANCHISED VOTE THOSE PEOPLE OUT. THey are the reason you are being DISENFRANCHISED. THEY chose to DISQUALIFY YOUR VOTE.

By: Monte Brown

Monte Brown — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:52 +0000

I don't know why the Obama camp is trying to disenfranchise voters just to win the nomination. That is a shame.

By: Theresa

Theresa — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:47 +0000

Of course he is opposed...he was on the ballot in Florida same as Clinton...neither campaigned...yet I believe an ad of Obama did air in error....AND he lost big...no wonder he doesn't want a re vote...He CANNOT win a big state. Clinton 08

By: Bernadette Williams

Bernadette Williams — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:33 +0000

First of all didn't they know about this a year and a half ago, all had known. Some called and was told that it wouldn't count. They wasn't concern then....Now that hillary's, trying to use the unfair game just to get her way. I think those very people thats trying so hard to count them now, are the very people thats hillary's supports. It happen once before to florida, some foul play of some sort. I WOULD LET THEM CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!! tHEY MISSED THEIR CHANCE.

By: autumn alston

autumn alston — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:56:41 +0000

Interesting that Obama's camp seems quite against this idea; seeing as how he co-sponsored legislation about mail-in voting being a good way of voting.

By: CNN never posts my posts

CNN never posts my posts — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:56:20 +0000

B.H. Obama is against any kind of re-vote in Florida because he knows he will lose!

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:55:41 +0000

The Obama campaign has just made a major error: Obama co-sponsored a bill supporting mail-in ballots. Coming out against them now would be flip-flopping, and show that he either didn't make that vote on principle, or that he's now changing his position in the name of political convenience.

By: ct

ct — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:40 +0000

they want only what is suitable for them. But when they do something else – like in Nevada, then it is OK.
Elections are such a nasty process............

By: Marc

Marc — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:40 +0000

Of course Obama's camp is against a mail-in. Much tougher to strong arm people into voting for Barack like is being done in the caucuses.

By: sherry

sherry — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:20 +0000

The Obama camp is very smart to not go for the mail-in vote. Who knows how accurate it would be? Especially in Florida. What! Honesty, forget it! Controversy, you bet!

By: Shane

Shane — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:10 +0000

I don't get this... Since so many rules have been broken just break more rules in a fair way to solve this mess. So I have a solution...simple really and of course fair. Firstly, forget the 2025 needed to win. That was under the basis that all delegates are counted. Since they are not, I don't know why everyone seem to be held to this number. So whoever wins the delegate count wins regardless if 2025 delegates has not been met. As for the voters of Michigan and Florida? Split the delegates evenly if they want to be seated at the convention. One can argue that this may not represent the voters, but these same voters voted for their Florida and Michigan officials who broke the rules. So blame them idiots for messing this all up by trying to get into the limelight by moving their primaries earlier.
Of course the Clinton Camp. will not approve of this, but in reality it is as fair as it can get because the winner will be nominated by states who obeyed the rules under fair practice.

By: Helen

Helen — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:08 +0000

See, Obama is going negative. Why did he blame Clinton for changing the rules? The re-vote was proposed by the people in Florida and DNC agreed on it. Obama wants to stick to the rules that are against people' will.

By: Alice Rea

Alice Rea — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:02 +0000

Obama was on the ticket. What's the problem. Let the votes stand as they are.
Michigan is different. Let them revote in Michigan because Obama wan't on the ticket..

By: spyturtle

spyturtle — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:53:22 +0000

Hillary already declared herself a winner in both Michigan and Florida. Does this double talk maneuvering reflect what she will be like negotiating with other countries? Is this her experience at work? Politician yes, ethical no. Play by the rules and don't change them in the middle of the game when your losing. by the way, where are the Clinton's tax returns?

By: moderate dem

moderate dem — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:53:22 +0000

what was wrong with my first submission?

By: Sophia

Sophia — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:51:44 +0000

This show you that Obama don't care Floridans.

By: Jim Shimmer

Jim Shimmer — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:50:42 +0000

Clinton is the biggest loser in the world. She will do anything, simply anything to win. So sooo sad.

How can we have such a pathetic person be president of our honorable country??????????????

She will stoop to any low, absolutely any low to win. So sad.

By: nate

nate — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:50:39 +0000

So if two teams split their games during the season, should we go back and count the exhibition/preseason games?

By: Rush Limbaugh

Rush Limbaugh — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:50:05 +0000

David Plouffe needs to quit whining, and swallow his spit like a man.

By: Once again

Once again — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:48:36 +0000

My comment is gone. The truth hurts I guess. When this is all over I am going to change my status from a democrat to an Independent. I can see now why Lieberman changed over. I cannot even get CNN to keep my comments in. I am commited to Hillary, but if she does not get to be the nominee – all bets are off.