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Good for Michigan Jim. Why can't we all rise above the chaos and find higher ground a.k.a. the truth?

I'M FROM MISSOURI... and unless dean and the dnc find a fair way to count fl. & mi., i vote republican.
this is America.....
50 states, don't whine about there moving up there election.
FIX IT.
THERE WILL BE NO DEM. WIN IN NOV. WITH OUT THESE TWO STATES. END OF STORY.

MISSOURI

OK, maybe THIS sort of fuster-cluck is the reason the "old guard" smoky-back-room Dem party insiders used to handpick the nominee regardless of the primary results.

I don't know how anyone can vote for Obama when he is trying to keep two key states out of the primary process. His campiagn says they want what is best but they are really afraaid that they will lose badly there. Hillary is actually trying to find a soultion. I won't support Obama if he beats Hillary by not letting two states have a voice. It would just be unfair and there would be none of that change Obama is talking about.

Dean must resign. What a mess. He should have imposed the same penalty the RNC did. To penalize all of the delegates is undemocratic. No there is no chance of a fair way to seat delegates without compromising principle. Dean must go!

Anon – You might want to learn about the process a bit more. MANY states APPLIED to change their dates. BUT – they did it FOLLOWING the process. FL and WI did what they wanted to – because the did NOT follow the process. If they had done things the RIGHT way – then we would not have this issue to begin with. I agree – too much power is given to the first states to vote. However, there is a reason to follow the PROCESS and change the date in the RIGHT manner.

Michigan voters are not holding their local parties responsible because they are too busy working 2 or 3 jobs trying to keep a roof over their heads.

My God. If you ever wondered what a Dean presidency would have looked like, here it is. The party could not have done worse ....

1. No incumbent Republican on the ticket.
2. Least favorable ratings for a president nearly of all time.
3. Historical moment for Democratic party - woman and minority.
4. Historical opportunity blown by DCCC
5. Way to go, Dr. Dean!

Dean,

Just do your job and keep the management to yourself. We don't want six more weeks of this inhouse fighting. If we do there will be one party standing in November, and I'm afraid it will be the GOP.

Get on with your job, and don't announce everything to the media.

Wake up! The world is watching and laughing at America. Race is an international issue. Why would it be different in America. Only because Americans are so full of themselves they can't see what is so obvious to others. Obama is JFK all over. And for those of you who can't remember "one of the worst Presidents in American history", any book will remind you. As for Hillary, she is Maggie Thatcher all over. And for those of you who can't remember Maggie Thatcher, then the number one issue besides the economy should be education.

This is the worst election I ever wittness, why would someone do a mail in vote in Florida look what put Bush in office. Obama should fight for not having mail in vote because if they do you know they going to steal the election. Hillary is for this because the republican is helping her to win in Florida and Michigan. I advise all African American to stay home if Hillary win the demoncrate nonimee let just leave the demoncrate party completely and join the republican party.

The mail-in option is out and everybody is aware why-we won't go into details. Consistency is what we require of the DNC to stick to-mark my words.

To all of those who hate Obama and distort his record, READ MY LIPS: He said he will abide by whatever the DNC decides. And you have a problem with that? Rember that all candidates agreed to this. Obama did not make the rules. Who is whining here? Blame your state officials!!

Why don't you ask Pelosi what to do – she is Ms. know it all.

I agree with Michael from Michigan, you broke the rules live with it. The Democratic party has damaged itself. We are being ridiculed for our inability to stand up and say no re-vote. Howard Dean must be replaced. It is a matter of principle. I do not want to seem negative, but the Democrats are going to loose the November election. They have no focus on developing a tangible plan for a solid victory. Unfortunately, they did it to themeselves.

Obama was not on the ticket the first time around. Hillary almost lost to "none of the above" the first time around. We have alot of people who do not like Hillary . We also have alot of people who did not vote because our great government leaders told us it would not count anyway. More people will come out this time around for Obama. Let Govenor Granholm support Hillary. Nobody likes either one of them.

Michigan for Obama

Let's have a redo in Michigan.

I know many, including myself, who did not vote because we knew it didn't count and Obama was not on the ticket. He will do well here just like he did in Wisconsin. Michigan is much different than Ohio. We have much higher standards.

Michigan for Obama

The DNC reminds me of an old Laurel and Hardy clip, where Oliver Hardy turns to Stan Laurel and says "Well ! This is another fine mess you've gotten us into !" Keep up the good work ... LOL !!

The last I knew Florida and Michigan still are a part of the United States. They voted, don't pay for a redo. Now just seat the votes..You would be changing the original vote. Its wrong.

Why would you allow them to a redo? Didn't they break the rules on purpose?

Clinton should be punished for giving McCain ammunition to use against the Democrats by endorsing him as the most qualified Commander in Chief. What was she thinking? I thought she's supposed to be the "Smartest Woman in America". She definately proved that theory wrong. That is about the stupidest mess up the Democratic Party could have ever asked for. INSERT FOOT IN MOUTH!

Also, what is this I hear abour Governor Rendell and Hillary Clinton both being accused of ELECTION FRAUD when she was running for New York Senator? Is this true?

NO re-votes. They broke the rules and now you are going to let them get away with it. If you let them re-vote, next year more states will try the same thing. You punished Michigan and Florida and now you want to reward them?

Clinton should be punished for giving McCain ammunition to use against the Democrats by endorsing him as the most qualified Commander in Chief. What was she thinking? I thought she's supposed to be the "Smartest Woman in America". She definately proved that theory wrong. That is about the stupidest mess up the Democratic Party could have ever asked for. INSERT FOOT IN MOUTH!

Also, what is this I hear abour Governor Rendell and Hillary Clinton both being accused of ELECTION FRAUD when she was running for New York Senator? Is this true?

They should do a caucus, which would give FL and MI voters the option to voicer their opinions. But then, if it doesn't work out for HRC, will she want to change the rules again? I mean with this woman you never know. God only know what will happen if she gets the nomination. We will be doomed!!!

Is this really so difficult?

The required number of 2,025 is simply 4,048 divided by 2 plus 1 (i.e. the majority of delegates).

Florida and Michigan knew ahead of time what moving their primaries would mean to their delegates. The solution is SIMPLE!! Subtract FL and MI delegates from 4,048, divide this new total by 2 and add 1. The result is the number needed to win nomination.

The math is SIMPLE!!

4,048
-210 (Florida)
-156 (Michigan)
=3,682

Divide by 2: 1,841
Add 1: 1,842

To win the Democrat nomination should only require 1,842 delegates!

If simple math escapes Democrats, how can they have any chance of being in charge?

Michigan and Florida broke the rules. The voters of those states should be angry with the nitwits that moved up their primaries.

2025 – 188(half of total delegates from michigan and florida) = 1837,

That should be the new target for nominee. Obama is 230 delegates away from target as of now...Clinton is far behind..please leave...

THIS REMINDS ME OF SUPER BOWL 23. THE CINCINNATI BENGALS VS THE HEAVY FAVORITE 49ER'S. SAM WYCHE INTRODUCED THE WORLD TO THE NO-HUDDLE OFFENSE THAT YEAR. IT WAS SOMETHING FRESH & NEW. THE LEAGUE LOVED IT THE POINTS WERE UP. FAN APPRECIATION OF THE GAME WAS @ AN ALL TIME HIGH. THE BENGALS USED THE NO-HUDDLE OFFENSE ALL SEASON TO GET THEM IN A POSITION TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL. BUT, THE 49ER'S & JOE MONTANA ALL AMERICAN QUARTERBACK & PUBLIC FAVORITE SOMEHOW CONVINCED THE NFL TO CHANGE THE RULES IN THE SUPER BOWL. THE BENGALS ACTUALLY GOT PENALIZED FOR RUNNING THERE OFFENSE OR THEY HAD TO ALLOW THE 49ERS DEFENSE TO GET THERE SUBS ON THE FIELD. THUS ELIMINATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF RUNNING THE NO-HUDDLE OFFENSE WICH IS DESIGNED TO GET MIXED MATCHES & TIRE OUT THE DEFENSE. NOT TO SAY THE BENGALS WOULD HAVE WON BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW. U CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES IN THE SUPER(BALLOT) BOWL....... IT'S UNAMERICAN!!!!!! WINK

I don't think Dean wants a "re-do" because it would hurt Obama. Dean seems to be favoring Obama. Being a voter from Michigan and seeing how Dean doesn't seem to care, if my vote counts or not for the Democrats, then I will take my vote to the Republican side.

On CNN this morning it was announced the the Florida delegations proposal could very well be ILLEGAL under Florida state law.
Bearing in mind this States previous fiasco's are we to believe that any re-run would be fair or accurate especialy if it was by mail.

Simply give both campaigns a fifty fifty split of delegates from both States. down the middle fair.

All you Obama haters, I don't recall Obama saying I am here because I am black so vote for me. The HRC campaign has in each and every case brought up the issue and drew Obama into it. Then cried when they were called on it, it's like you show your hand in poker then say I didn't mean to show you that card.

As for FL and MI, how is the vote fair; when half the darn voters didn't vote because they were told it would not matter. Now it matters? Is that the type of President you HRC voters want; one that says leaving out half the voice of FL is fair? You would probably vote for Britney Spears for President.

Popular Vote Total – 13,280,770 49.5% 12,577,044 46.9% Obama +703,726 +2.6%

Popular Vote (w/FL) – 13,856,984 48.5% 13,448,030 47.1% Obama +408,954 +1.4%

Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)* – 13,856,984 47.5% 13,776,339 47.3% Obama +80,645 +0.2%

I understand that the democratic party tried to work within the deadlines given by Dean, They were told by the party that runs the state (Republicans) that they had to hold their primary on the same day as the republicans. I understand after appealing this decision, the democrats in florida were still not allowed to set a date that corresponded with Deans, and that the innocent citizens of florida are being punished for this political move. They voted, neither Clinton or Obama were allowed to campaign there, and a couple million people have already voted. Why is Dean wanted to spend more money and open this up to mail fraud, losing the mail, (thats been done before) and all the verification, and clerical work involved ( $$$$$$) counting all these millions of votes. I heard this on mainstream news, so if any of us can believe anything that is said about this election, which clearly is being run by the media, I think it is ludicrist to redo the votes. It makes me wonder if Dean is working for the republicans. Obviously, Flordians should have the right to vote in this country. Its all very political, maybe they think Obama will turn around the vote, if they do a mail in vote. Some of us now believe, since the media loves Obama, and slams Hillary for everything, he gets the red carpet, she gets the kitchen sink, that the only reason the media would support a democrat is if the republicans can gain from it. So does that mean a vote for obama is a vote for McCain.

CNN could you please tell us in these reports today, who the Florida Democratic Natl. party is indicating would pay for the re-vote?

Thank you.

Alex from IL states that Hilary is destroying the party. It wouldnt have anything to do with Obama and his cult followers spewing hate for all who dont agree with them would it? This is a bitter fight and more than likely if obama wins the nomination, McCain will win because Clinton backers like myself will vote republican rather than see Obama in the white House, but I daresay the party will survive. Obama is not that important that he or his supporters will be able to "destroy" the party. Hillary either.

DNC needs to stick to it's rules, otherwise where is DNC's credibility? This whole thing was meant to punish MI and FL because they moved up the dates. Now it feels like these 2 states are actually rewarded, by forcing the DNC to change rules, as if these are the only 2 states that matters. This is so Unfair to the other 48 states.

Right on Michigan Jim,

Its the state officials that put MI and FL in this position that deserve to pay the price.

Its disgusting to me that the Republican govenor of FL makes a desciion that will affect only the Democratic voters in his state. Then when it is clear that it will cause termoil in the nomination process, does he demand that his voters "have a voice". I hope it disgusts you too FL.

Florida has already voted and those delegates should be seated. Obama and the DNC are just trying to drag this out in hopes of helping Obama. Howard Dean could care less about being fair. He was a lousy governor, he was a lousy candidate and he's a lousy DNC chairman.

Mr. Howard Dean...............we need to find a fair way.

Fair is sticking with the rules you set up. The Clinton's
are dirty rotton scoundrals The tricks they have played
on the VOTERS are all evident, including the last straw-
Geraldine Ferrero. NoBODY can ever convince me that
that came straight from the Clinton's Timing was great-
just after Hillary lost the black vote

w/woman 63 for OBAMA FROM DAY ONE.

Bravo,T from New York, you should replace Howard Dean.

Howard, will you please step up to the plate and take charge here. Someone has to lead this effort. Get everyone in the same room and thrash this out. Please.

You idiots created this mess and now you blame someone else. IF YOU CANNOT FOLLOW DIRECTION (ESPECIALLY FL) YOU SHOULDN'T BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.

THE PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES SHOULD VOTE AGAINST THE LEADERS JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR IGNORANCE. THEY WANT YOU AS CITIZENS TO FOLLOW THE LAW..BUT THEY IN FACT DO WANT TO FOLLOW SIMPLE RULES.

Statewide primary for Florida and Michigan – so that every US citizen eligible to vote will be able to exercise their right as a citizen .

HILLARY 08!!!

Dean thinks the DNC needs to find a fair way to count FL and MI votes. There is only one fair way and that is to apologize for the actions of the legislature and foolish party leaders. Then, seat the delegates and count their votes.

Some sort of back room deal to split the votes a certain way to please each side is certainly not fair. You might as well flip a coin because it's meaningless. It does not represent the voters who went to the polls when they were told to do so. A re-vote is certainly not fair because a lot of people who voted may not be able to vote again and they already voted – their vote should count!

COUNT THE VOTES! SEAT THE DELEGATES! and stop being stupid. I guess that's asking too much.

As a registered republican I have been very excited about the democratic canditates. But watching the evolution of their primaries I wonder how this party will run the country if they can't even manage their primary process?

I'm sorry, it's clear & simple, as much as I would like the votes of Michigan & Floridian voters to count BOTH not one but BOTH candidates agreed with the DNC rules. Now that one candidate is in danger of losing the nomination, her supporters are fighting to change the rules. Where was the upset & anger when these rules were agreed upon. It's amazing how the tablea turn. It would have been less suspicious if the reps of Florida & Michigan had been taking this stand from the beginning. Sounds fishy & biased to me!!

To, Glenn and Kathy
There would be no need to say anything about race if people didn’t keep bring it into everything they talk from the media breaking every thing down by race, gender and age. I actually think the media talks more about it the Hillary or Obama to tell you the truth; they have to always respond to those questions. Now when you have Ferraro saying that if you criticize obama then you are being racist, I think she is delusional at best don’t think people were calling Hillary a racist when she was grilling Obama on him being inexperienced or that he will not be a commander in chief or that his healthcare plan will leave out 15 million people. Those are the types of things she should be criticizing him on, which she has and which she should. Those are valid points talk about that. But when you have to prominent members of her campaign speaking two his race that is when he has to say something. To say that all his accomplishment throughout his life mean nothing is wrong. That’s wrong. Just like Ferraro and Hillary get upset when people say she is only this far because she is a Woman (which I’m sure people have said) that hurts her feelings as well because it diminishes all of her accomplishments as well. Do we seem to forget that before that last super Tuesday, not many black people were voting for him at all they were voting for Clinton (I’m Black and I was going to vote for Clinton) and then I heard about Obama and no I did not jump on the band wagon I actually went out and did my research on both of them before I made my decision because honestly I was going for Clinton because I knew of her through Bill to be really honest I didn’t know much about her. So at the time I was being ignorant and not doing my homework and jumping on the Hillary bandwagon. So I'm not a blind follower I’m a thinking one. Why don't you investigate claims first instead of just believing everything on TV? What do you expect Ferraro to say "It is my fault, all my fault" PLEASE! She is not going to say that. Because then she would have to admit she wrong doing and she doesn’t believe she is wrong. So be it. Also, she stated that it was taken out of context. So before I jumped on Hate Hillary day- I did my research and looked at the original article. I read the whole thing. And they way it was brought to light was the way it was written in the article. And I was so hoping that it wasn’t (that it was a misunderstanding, but it wasn’t). So unless the reporter wrote it wrong, it is there in black and white. I do recognize the flaws in MR. Obama, and Mrs. Clinton, but from what I seen in Hillary her flaws out weigh his by far.

HONOR THE VOTES THAT THE VOTERS MADE. PENALIZE THE POLITICIANS.

The DUMB SOB SHOULDN"T HAVE MADE THOSE RULES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

FORGET ABOUT HURTING IOWAS FEELINGS.

WHY IS THAT WHITE STATE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER STATE?

Apparently there are no real rules, you can break them and then make new ones if you scream loud enough. We keep hearing about what is fair, why is it fair to break the well known rules of the party and then get to do it over again? I don't understand how anyone out there can support this mess. They need to be shut out, the people of Michigan and Florida need to go after the their state representatives that put them in this situation and make sure that "they" pay the consequences of the poor choices they have made. Stop putting the responsibility on Obama and Clinton – this was not their doing. Michigan and Florida you want to vote – then vote to get rid of your reps that put you where you are now. Florida and Michigan will get to vote in November lets leave it at that.

I think we are asking the wrong questions here. Revote? there is such a hue and cry over it that it will happen the question that we should be asking is simply this, How many delegates should each state get? In my opinion, and Ihave stated it before, the states should not have NAY superdelegates, they were the ones who screwed this up in the first place, and the states themselves should be limited to a maximum of 20% less delegates than any other state. everyone is happy the voting gets to be redone allowing those voters who followed and understood the rules to have a say in the process as well as those who did not, delegates will be awarded, the two states will be penalized for failure to follow the rules, and we can move forward.

The Hillary Hurricane has swept all sense of decency and morals away from the DNC. Dean is so afraid to stand up to her. The rules should be the same for everyone, and every state, Hillary, Florida, Michigan...and Obama. Just do what your rules say, Dean, stop being such a wimp. Remember your rules, your rules, your rules.

I wish I were in charge, The Hillary would not make me back down. That hurricane would stop causing havoc for the rest of the country today. The Hillary games would stop.

Dean, do your job and just say no to The Hillary. What is she going to do, cry or have a hissy fit. Just say no.

No to the Hillary. No to her lies, raunchy henchmen, diabolical, dastardly deeds, no.

Obama 08

No surprise the Democrats are in this position under DNC Chairman Dean. He has no leadership qualities and is mostly a cheerleader. How can the Chair of his party not work hard to make sure Democrats in Florida and Michigan have a voice? This election is practically handed to the Democrats and because of Chairman Dean's lack of leadership, McCain may win in November.

I am beginning to think that most people posting on this thread do not know what a rule is. A rule is "a principle or condition that customarily governs behavior." Hellooooooo. Who's behavior are we talking about? What exactly did the VOTERS

It is amazing to me that posters continue to think the RULES are being broken is there are "do-overs" in Michigan and Florida. The RULES DO ALLOW those states to submit a plan to the DNC to have their delegates selected. If the plans are approved by the DNC then the states can proceed with those plans per the RULES. You can't have it both ways. If you want to play by the RULES then they apply in their entirety. Now do you understand?

Mr. Dean lot of voter about to shift out of democratic party that is not democratic any more. that can change the rule depending on how is asking and how is in trouble, Believe me we are tired of the Game.

I did not like being negated but that was the ruling.

I would have preferred to have a voice, but now that's between me and my state officials who will hear my voice in the voting booth.

If you change the rules now, no matter how it goes, what's to stop states from going against the party's rules next time?

We broke the rules, we got penalized. Stand by it or it will never end.

GLENN – there is no possible way you were a former Obama supporter – you're facts are so incredibly twisted and biased, that the only thing you could be is a closet Hillary supporter, trying to "look like" you are leaving Obama.

How can you possibly accuse Obama of being racist? The racist words are coming out of Bill Clinton's mouth and Geraldine Ferraro's mouth. Are you saying that Obama is racist because he denounces statements that link his success to his being black? Seriously? There are only three words for the kind of ignorance that thinks someone has an advantage in life by being black. TRY IT SOMETIME.

People who are putting their comment are bias they are only saying what is benfit for their candidate and i can't wait to see what they are going to whine when Mcaine wins the general election on the fall . I want to see especially Obama supporters who believe America has only 48 states and they don't care about the 2 states who is playing main rules on the general election i guess you can't expect from college kids they are only following their preacher .

Hillary and Obama aside, the real story here is that Howard Dean has been a miserable failure as chair of the DNC. The fact that he is not providing any real leadership in this Michigan and Florida fiasco is reason enough to send him packing. Add in the fact that the DNC ended 2007 in debt and is majorly trailing the RNC in fundraising, and the case for his dismissal is even stronger.

This is all a prelude to HILLARY "MONSTER" CLINTON trying to steal the election. Fl & Mich should just sit this ine out and have the first primary in 2012. The States should be rotated anyway...regarding the primary dates.

If the people of Florida and Michigan don't like being discounted, they can vote out the state officials that put them in this position in the first place. I dont think the argument holds up that they will all vote for McCain in November because this has nothing to do with the candidates.

Dean is NOT the villian here!! Period. End of discussion. He is doing his job...or at least trying to. The bad guys have always been the state representative who foolishly thought they were exempt from the rules. And now they don't want to have to suffer the known consequences. Blithering on about how undemocratic it is to not allow their state votes to count is just askign for the rules to be bent AGAIN. That is so wrong. I still maintain that they should just split the delegates 50/50 and be done with it. Then the citizens of these states must act to remove the folks who put them in this place. THAT is their voice, not a re-vote. Please, play be the rules and stop whining about fairness.

The fair way is to enforce the rules. Florida and Michigan broke the rules. As a result they do not have any delegates to send to the convention. That is fair. Chairman Dean needs to consider the voters in the rest of the country. If Florida and Michigan are allowed to flout the rules with impunity then there is no need for the DNC to have rules at all.

Here is an idea. For the next election cycle, let's have each state vote whenever they like. I vote in Virginia and I think we should be first (we have had 8 Virginians become President after all). Regardless of the rules I think I will begin lobbying my legislature to make it happen.

Thanks.

Since when Dean is fair. He is saying what Clinton and Obama are doing to the Democratic Party is OK. He is too stupid to realize what damage is being caused. I have no respect for him.

So find it! It will be totally unfair if Obama supporters does not vote for him in Florida! But then, judging from the past, Florida politics hasn't been fair anyway, thanks to Brother Jeb and Ralph Nader!

No Dean, you need to man-up and tell send Hillary packing with her slash and burn tactics. She is laughing, along with the GOP at your weak attempts to stop her shananigans.

Shame on you Dean, the DNC deserves better.

To be fair why not consider this.
First these states and candidates all agreed to this last year, so end of story!!!
Just because it's now not going in one's favor doesn't justify we should change the rules. The only fair thing to do is leave it as is except change the requirement (equal affect on both) to win the nomination.
If the original number of delegates was 4048 and you needed 2025 to win or 50.03% of the total available. Why not now subtract the 364 delegates (Mi. & Fl. total) from the 4048 making it now 3684 then go with the 50.03% of that total for a winner or 1843 of the delegates.

What happened to the rules set at the beginning of this campaign. You should be fired because you have failed the people. I hope Condi work on the minority votes for the Republican if Hillary gets the nomination one way or the other. After all, the Republicans are trying to make up for their past. They have given African Americans higher positions than the Democrats.

Now we know who the racist people are. OLD DEMOCRATS

They shouldn't revote. The rules were the rules and Hillary agreed to them. Now she wants to change the rules because she's losing.

As a compromise they could do a Caucus. Much cheaper than a primary and more secure than a mail-in vote.

Of course, Hillary will refuse that option since she may not win

It is a re-do largely because it casts favor to Clinton. The irony is that you never know what the result may be. What if Obama wins as he does everywhere (look what happened with Ohio and Texas; he erased all her gains easily). What will Hillary do next? Will DNC continue going along with her tactic that is to do anything everything to get elected? Where is the stop? Where is the outrage?

Obama is working hard to make sure that there is a fair solution to this. No one wants to disenfranchise the honest voters of Fla and Michigan in spite of the fact that they obviously have some mighty poor leaders.

Remember, Terry MacAuliffe was head of the DNC when these rules were accepted and now he's working for Hillary. I think that spells conflict of interest and there should be some media attention directed to his role in the negotiatons. He needs, at a minimum. to recuse himself from this conversation.

I think Obama will win the do-over. Please!!!!

It's the fault of their fearless leader in both states. Let the states come up with the money to redo the election. Voting by secret mail in ballots would make Hillary and that Republican governor from Florida as happy as sissies around a male locker room. They are red states any way.

Obama is so afraid of MI and FL putting Hillary ahead of him that he will now do and say anyting to prevent the citizens of MI and FL from being heard and to surpress their votes.

SHAME SHAME SHAME on you OBAMA!!!!! I wouldn't vote for you now if you were the only candidate on the ballot. MY vote will now go to McCain.

Obama has not united the Country he has divided more than ever before. Even BUSH would be a better alternative than Obama. Hope all you enjoy 4 more years of a Republican in the White House thanks to Obama and his Kool-Aid Kids.

CNN YOUR BIAS IS SHOWING AGAIN!!!!!!!
MI – re-vote
FL – they already voted will all on the ballot....you want to cry name recognition? Then please explain how Obama beat John Edwards in FL??????? I would think if you all thought Hillary only won because of her name, then John Edwards should have done a lot better....

John Edwards needs to step in, endorse Obama and give him his delegates. This would make Florida a virtual tie, and the results could stand and delegates be seated.

50/50

Dr. Dean has never recovered from his primal scream evidencing his breakdown.

Let the Florida and the Michigan voters speak up for them self, They already proove that they want Clinton not Obama. what's the big deal now?
HIllary Clinton for president if we really wants what's best for the Country

So now RULES don't count for anything!!!

We'll have states running primaries whenever they want .... Halloween, Easter, Xmas.

DEAN,
Please just do SOMETHING...Make a decision, one way or the other. Right or wrong...Make this end. Please don't string this issue along any longer. It is helping no one but the REPulbicans and hurting everyone in the DEM party..

CLINTON SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THE MAIL IN OPTION – OBAMA PEOPLE ARE DESPERARE. THEY WILL SPEND BILLIONS TO CONFUSE PEOPLE.

How many democrats do we need to fix up the mess????????

Once you make an exception with no matter what appeare to be fair reasons, you will never be able to excersize any DNC regulation in the future. People including both candidates agreed not to count FL and MI delegates before the primary, why do they want to change the opinions now? Because this could be the only way for the Clintons to win the nomination. Stick to the rule ... make no exceptions. The Clintons do not care votes of small states and states she did not win anyway.

Obama has said time and time again that he would go along with whatever the DNC decides to do. Afterall, it is he who has obeyed the rules all along. I think the people of Michigan and Florida should be allowed to vote in whatever type of re-do the DNC puts forth. I object to the delegates being seated as is because many people did not vote because they were told their votes would not count. The Republicans have chosen their nominee. Let's not let them choose ours through their interference of rules as in Florida and their invasion of Democratic primaries elsewhere.

Correction You and Lou dobbs FIRED some day and it will happen.

If this race were not so close this would be a non-issue. The fact that this election has turned into such a race, this issue will not go away. The solution is the now the problem? How to fix this leaky faucet will take a lot of plummers, looking at all the options. Do you replace all the pipes or use gookum puddy. I'm sure glad I don't have to fix it.

Just let their vote count and stop trying to please the Obama people. They are an arrogant bunch. I will never vote for Obama – even if Hillary wants her supportes to if she is not the nominee. They make me sick. They are just such nasty people. I don't lke Obama any better. So – let the people vote!!!

Wolf I wonder what you would have said if obama was the one who won the beauty contests in Florida and michigan. My guess is you would of said they broke the rules, we can not change the rules in the middle of the game. You are biased I do not know why CNN network can not see that, God willing I like to see you and Lou Dobbs some day I am praying very hard it wil happen.

And if the Obama camp agrees to nothing other than splitting the delegates 50/50 which is completely undemocratic, ignores voters and will be unacceptable to either state, then what? Hand the nomination to Obama to have MI and Fl remove his name from the bllot in Nov??

The obama camp needs to agree to a revote or to seat the delegates orhe's just asking to disenfranchise 2.2 million voters which wont go over well in Nov.

Here's another suggestion to Fla & Mi voters who want their vote counted. Send out ballots to each registered voter in the respective states and give them a choice. 1) re-vote for candidate of their choice or 2) state will replenish state budget of the estimated 10-15 million of cost of re-election for schools, housing, jobs, etc. What do you think everyone would choose?

News Flash:

Even if Florida and Michigan count as is, Hillary still wouldn't beat Obama in the Pledged Delegate count. She would have to beat him 70-30 in a redo, she didn't even do that in her home state.

How about sticking to the rules. Is that such a difficult concept. Everyone agreed that these two states would not count, and now the Democratic party wants to change the rules in the middle of the game, because the party bosses ( the Clintons) are losing..... Will they also want to change the electoral college rules in the November election?

Since when does Obama make the rules for voting? Michigan and Florida voters are entitled to have their votes count. Too many differences over the voting status of Michigan and Florida. GET IT SETTLED AND QUIT WASTING TIME!

I think the democrats have lost the presidential election before the election. There is so much division and hate between Clinton and Obama supporters, i don't see neither winning the election. This is the best thing ever happen to republicans.

I just don't get the comments that think Barack Obama is dissing the voters of Florida and Michigan. ALL Democratic presidential candidates signed a written agreement that concurred with the DNC's position that if Florida and Michigan didn't follow the rules, their delegates should not be seated. Now we have Hillary wanting to rescind her agreement. She is truly a person that we cannot trust under any circumstances. Take responsibility for the agreements you sign and learn how to apologize, rather than regretting your every move...there is a difference folks!

For those of you who made comments that insinuate that Obama has distanced himself from the Florida and Michigan matter you're sooooo wrong!!!!! HE HAS STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO COUNT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN IF THIS IS DONE "FAIRLY"- And that is what he is most concerned about. He absoblutely wants democrats to be heard as long as this is done FAIRLY!!!!!!!!!!! Noone can blame him for that!

For those of you who claim he's shy'd away you haven't been watching the news and you don't have the facts!!!

He has repeadtdely said that he would back up whatever the DNC come up with as long as it is fair to both campaigns- Also very FAIR!!!!

The leadership of DNC needs an overhaul

Internationally Florida has a very bad reputation when it comes to elections. If the election of the next president in your country does not have been performed in a procedure that has made it possible to every citizen to express his/her opinion, the reputation of the United States of America will be badly damaged once again. As a intellectual experiment let's suppose that Obama or Clinton internationally will become a failure. Than it should be in the interst of the United States that presidential election at least was performed in a proper way.
European

The Republican Governor and legislature of Florida created this mess by moving their primary up to the front of the line, breaking known Democratic party rules. Florida should be paying for a re-count, not the Democratic party. What's to stop more states from doing this next time around?

Exactly. I agree with William.

If the 366 delegates of Florida and Michigan do not count, the total number of delegates up for grab should be 3,682. Therefore only 1,842 is required for the nomination.

The way Florida's done in the last few years with elections, I'm wondering if we should just ask them to sit this out come November.

Just sit them down and tell them "Hey, we love you and everything, but we don't want you to screw this up for everyone AGAIN. This is better for everyone, so we're just going to have you sit this one out over here with some crayons and this shinny thing. We'll come get you when it's over."

HRC can clearly win FL.If DNC is not ready to put money on relection,
Hillary can put her own money on it.What difference does that make?

What I don't get is why Hillary signed in the dotted line in the First place. She knew the delegates would not be seated if she agreed... And she agreed... So why her sudden change of heart? Why is it such an outrage to her now.

I agree with William. It simply is not right to accommodate those that do not play by the rules.

In the ten Presidential elections from 1968- 2004, Florida voted Republican eight times. Florida voted only for Jimmy Carter in 1976 and for Bill Clinton in 1996. Florida appears to be one of those historical Red states that Hillary is always accusing Obama of winning and saying won't do any good for the Democratics in the 2008 Presidential race. Go figure.

Also, Florida doesn't seem to be able to call itself the model for election fairness more like the model for election fraud (ask Al Gore).

This all redo vote is only for HRC to win nomination. nothing else.
Because Rules are always to follow no to change in game. May be after game over.

I think SPFD CHICK above has the best solution to this problem I've read anywhere. I hope Dean and the campaigns read it. Her solution allows the people's voice to be heard at the voting booth but not the voice of any campaign via granting the superdelegates already in their pocket.

You should get into politics, Chick. Move to NY. We could use you here.

The DNC now has an easy way out of allowing Obama forward, just include both the MI and FL votes as is in the interest of fairness. That gives HRC enough to claim the supers without to much fuss.

Have you seen the racist, America hating comments in the video of the preacher Obama claims in his book to be a large influence on him?

These videos couples with Mrs. Obama's comments make him pretty much unelectable in the general.

The Dems. better start thinking Hillary now for sure!

You'd think BO would have distanced himself a long time ago from these things..........or maybe not?

Howard Dean and the DNC should get out of the way and let the states decide what how the redo the Primary's. The DNC and the Candidates should pick up the bill.

I is time to dissolve the DNC, lets get some new blood in there

Mr. Dean All aI want to see is to shut up this two big mouth people namely Wolf and Lou dobbs at CNN that absesed with the Idea of Vote in Florida and Michigan with they really do not care about, the only reason they are bring this ridicules request is they are trying to help hillary to win the nomination and I say wishful thinking that would never happen.

GLENN,

Loyal DEMOCRATS will support the Democrated candidate!! HOWEVER, because YOU ONLY SUPPORT White Democrats then OBAMA never had your support anyway!!

Most BLACKS don't believe that OBAMA will win anyway! We Believe that the election will be STOLEN from HIM and Given to BILLARY!

HOWEVER, WE WILL NOT STAND BY AND LET LATINOS AND WHITE'S TELL US THAT BEING BLACK IS A PROBLEM!!

We will support OBAMA even if it means that John McCain will be President!!

Let's get this straight - the Dems can't even manage their own primary and their candidates are going after each other with hammer and tongs, and we want THEM to be in charge of healthcare?

PLEASE CNN, post this messsage for GLENN,
GLENN, u are so very stupid. Reading your mail tells me u were/are NOT a fervent supporter of Obama anywyas.
YOU interprete things in a horrible way. Think hard about whats in ur head b4 you type it.

You already know the way Mr! No fixed Caucuses for Obama.

Just run it the way it was done in Ohio and Texas.....

(Not Rickety Rick)

I will vote for McCain if my vote does not count. It would be totally unfair for every state and territory to vote except my state and Michigan. And everyone in my family is saying the same thing. Can the democrats win without Florida? This is the question that democratic party needs to ask itself.

Audbrey
Miami, FL

I am resident of Michigan, My question is who pays for the do over I am certainly not paying for it. Granholm says that the state of Michigan has a enormous debt and wanted to raise taxes now she wants to give Hillary her spot on the ballot? Not fair ,Jen watch out Obama is on his way to win your state MICHIGAN.....

RULES ARE RULES.

Look, up in the sky, it's a man, it's a bird, it's super delegate. Glen, you need to go back to your cave in Pakistan.

Michigan and Florida should be seated – it is war –

Go Hillary,Go

Stop lying Glenn, you were never a supporter of Obama.

THANK GOD for Howard Dean!!! I listened to NPR today as Hillary tried to explain why she stayed on the ballot in Michigan when ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES DROPPED OFF. Her response: It's their fault if they didn't stay on!

In other words, she is PROUD of having broken her own party's election rules!

What a piece of work!

Glenn,

Are you smoking crack?

The big problem for the Democrats is who will work for them in Florida in the General Election. You cannot win without Frorida and Mich.

I think that the voters should get to vote again. It wasn't the fault of the citizens of Florida and Michigan. They were just told to go vote and they went and voted.

STAND STRONG FOR CHANGE (OBAMA)

OR

FALL HARD FOR THE SAME (Status Quo)!!

We do not want BILL Clinton and is cigars in the WHITE HOUSE AGAIN!! This is like when the citizens of WASHINGTON, DC voted for Marion Barry for Mayor after the mess he created!!

BILL CLINTON WILL bring MORE SHAME to the WHITE HOUSE!!

The democrats in those states broke the rules and the Republican governor went along with it . You have to play by the rules. This will set a bad example for other states.

Florida and Michigan should be applauded for their acts of civil disobeidence to the political establishment!

Small states like Iowa, NH, NV, and SC should not such disproportionate amount of power!

The only fair decision is to enforce the decision that both candidates agreed to before the primary season began and votes started to be counted.

Faking outrage now is disingenuous when both sides agreed to the punishments initially.

Politicians have no concept of fiscal responsibility – spend 12 million dollars for a redo ... mediation would cost a lot less.

I certainly hope when all this is said and done and we finally have a candidate, the Democratic party is able to reunite. It seems so far apart right now. I support Obama, but I will vote for Hillary if I have too. I hope the Hillary supporters can see fit to do the same if Obama wins. I've seen so many supporters of one side or the other state they would McCain over Hillary or Obama.

Lets all please remember some of the things a vote for McCain really represents.

A vote for...
more dead, and maimed young American soliders (our children!),
more orphaned young Americans (our future),
more dead, maimed and orphaned innocent Iraqis (which the vast majority of them are totally innocent and never asked for this atrocity),
more American tax payer money poured down this rat hole of a "war",
economic policy that favors the wealthiest 1%,
restricted civil liberties,
a Supreme Court that leans completely to the right (one of my biggest personal concerns),
and this list goes on...

I want my candidate to win, but I won't sacrifice this opportunity for the Democrats to win back the executive branch.

Politicians are totally out of touch with a need for fiscal responsibility – another 10 -12 million of tax payers money – for a re do

Glenn: your post is silly at best and very transparent. You were never an Obama supporter, only a Clintock supporter disguised in sheep's clothing.

Florida and Michigan's voters need to be heard and none of this would be an issue if they just followed the rules in the first place. However I don't think the DNC should have silenced the voting, that to me doesn't seem within the rules either. As citizens we have the right to vote. If a mail in vote happens, the powers that be need to ensure there is no way of voting violations and fraud and everyone has the ballots available to them even if they are registered with another party. I trust that will happen.
What concerns me is Hillary Clinton is asking for Michigan's votes to count as is when Barack wasn't even on the ballot. She should see that is not fair even to her opponent.These are the issues what make me not back her. I just don't believe she has the character to be president.

Just do not want to confuse "GLENN" Hillary supporter posing on line as a former OBAMA supporter with me. I have posted out here before and still support OBAMA. The 2 arguments by the other "Glenn" are Hillary talking points which proves that he was never an OBAMA supporter to begin with. What Ferraro said is PREJUDICED, not really RACIST. RACIST infers power on her that she does not have. She is a very PREJUDICED old wind bag who needs to shup up. Well actually, maybe she should keep talking and digging that whole even deeper. Oh and by the way I am a WHITE MALE. I have no problem supporting a woman for President, just not Hillary.

OBAMA '08

Let them redo it...whats the big deal...Obama supporters are so undemocratic...I wonder if they will support sharia-law if Obama says they should ? Florida and Michigan should count...and If they dont get thier way...perhaps a Independent Party Committee should be setup with Florida and Michigan...with Hillary as thier candidate.

This whole problem of should every one's vote count echo's dirty tricks from the past...Where is the good mayor from Chicago when you need him...It sounds like we might be counting votes in Florida again folks...

Follow the rules and everything works out...don't blame anyone but the people involved...the people of Florida should be ashamed of themselves...0 for 2 Florida...let's keep our eye on the ball...Nov. is only 7 months away...

I want to wake up Wednesday morning in Nov. and know who the next President!

This message if for GLENN: How dare you type the crap you do!! So Obama is suppose to let people call his race and not get upset about it, How about if he said Clinton won cause of all the white votes in Ohio. How dare you come on cnn like that, How do you sleep at night having all that HATE in your body, I am a black women,I love all races that love me and not throwing my color into play for there benfits!!! We all need to work together to fight the Republians!!!

Obama 2008 Baby

I am tired of hearing the debate on re-seating those delegates from Florida and Michigan. I have a simple math question for Mr. Howard Dean. The original total number of delegates is 4,048 and that 2,025 is required to win the nomination. If the 366 delegates of Florida and Michigan do not count, the total number of delegates up for grab should be 3,682. Therefore only 1,842 is required for the nomination. Isn't this quite obvious? The voice of the voters in those two states might not be heard, but the state legislators who broke the rules are to blame, not Dean.

I love that Hilary wants these poor voters that knew their vote wouldnt count to matter..... but she says caucuses, small states and others that voted against her do not.

Its nice to pick and choose which voters have a voice.

I am from FL, I have lots of friends and family there... many did not bother to vote becuase they knew it did not count. I think most rational people know its not Hillary or Obama's fault. It is their state officials that are to blame and if we let them have a voice now they will never learn.

I agree that both campaigns have to agree AND acknowledge that initially there were rules! Secondly, he needs to address the email and calls he is receiving. Just becasue they do not address them, doesn't make them go away. If not, there will not be unity because you say it will be. There could be alot of voters for Ralph Nader because of a two other issues.

Howard Dean is the main reason for the party implosion happening before our eyes.
He reduced the pool of pledge delegates when he nullified Florida and Michigan's vote.

What he did not do was to also reduce the amount of delegates required to clinch the nomination hence this debacle.

The Democratic Party is built on sand and you all deserve each other.

I hope the Republicans continue to win for another 100 years.

Whatever they decide, they're need the UN to go in and observe the election. Because, you know, it's Florida, who can't seem to do any election right.

If the rules were broken and everybody accepted this in the beginning, why are we all of a suddent changing the rules? Just to let Clinton win, since she's favored in Florida?

If Florida and Michigan are allowed to break the rules and vote twice, a terrible precedent will have been set. Be ready for complete chaos next go around.

Ooops! I want to take back my vote and change it. It seems that I didn't REALLY think it would count the way they said. I demand a do-over......in Texas.

Puleeeeze! Have we really become a nation of whiny children? If my children complained about the rules, the rules were enforced on an even stricter basis. They all turned out to be fine, responsible adults who, while not afraid to challenge stupidity, realize the benefit of follow through.

Mr. Dean should have thought of the consequences before he made the rules. The RNC didn't have this problem. Now there is NO fair way to handle this. Dean should resign.

I'll be willing to bet unless the public puts Obama on notice he will delay any real talk of a Florida and Michigan election as he is afraid he will lose one or both of them.

Under the leadership of this dufus–the Democratic party has created this mess the first place. Does anybody believe they even have the capability to ensure a fair and credible election process for these two unfairly chastised states?

Insight, foresight, and committed leadership: rare indeed among the Democrats.

Glenn: your post is silly at best and very transparent. You were never an Obama supporter, only a Clintock supporter disguised in sheep's clothing.

Only God can save the Democratic party now. This is a mess.

Give the money to charity or to reduce FL gas prices!

Hey GLENN:

First, CAPITAL LETTERS don't make your words "louder."

Second, this is about what is fair. Senator Obama has played by and respected the rules this entire election, and that is all he is asking for here. He has not taken a position beyond "let's make sure it is fair."

It is a shame there are people who have been turned so wacko by this due to the desperation and ranting of Hillary Clinton.

Florida law prohibits a mail in ballot. Obama is not interested in a re-vote, he wants them excluded because they do not benefit him. He is no different from any other politician, so there.

Oh Dean just shut up. We all know know what the rules are, but 50 states should be able to cast their vote for this important election not 48. The voters aren't at fault its the DNC for this stupid rule.

I hope other states that followed the rules display civil disobedience to protest these two states trying to get another bite at the apple by changing the rules in the middle.

From what Indie in Iowa describes, it looks like that might be the case.

GLENN, You're dumb...

Seriously, your Klansman hood may be on a little tight. Fix it...

All the Republican Party has to do is if, Hillary is the Democratic nominee than make Collin Powell VP of the Republicans and it is all over for the Democratic Party in November.

I have a solution...

DON'T CHANGE THE RULES!!!

One things I can say about the current situation within the Democratic Party – Barack Obama will be a "fully vetted" candidate when he wins the nomination. He will ultimately owe a big thank you to Hillary, Bill, Geraldine, Florida and Michigan (and the list goes on) for preparing him for a "knock down, drag out" fight with the Republicans in November.

Obama '08

Let this be a sign to all of you. This is the latest sign in the death of the political party.

It is really sad that these two communities decided to break the rules and so many people are affected, but they need to kick out their elected officials. The democratic thing to do about the delegates and votes would be to give the votes to those who honored their word not to participate because the states had not obeyed the laws. This is becoming a nation where breaking the rules is rewarded not punished. No wonder our children feel it is ok to cheat, break the rules...makes one go ummmm.

Rules are rules. Having said that if someone, or in this case some state, breaks the rule then there should be a punishment or penalty.

Why not allow a re-do in Michigan and Florida but don't allow their super delegates to be seated at the Denver convention.

After all it is their fault that this thing happened because they could have protested but decided not to even though they knew the consequences.

That way the people who had no say in when they should hold their election will have their say on who they would like to see as their nominee and the super delegates who had had their say will not be able to have more say and may be just maybe they will play by the rule next time.

Why isn't anyone consulting Terri McAuliffe, afterall, he was the chairman of the DNC at the time of this ruling and it was initiated by him. Oh, BTW, if you want to contact him, he can be reached at HRC"S campaign HQ's, as the campaign chairman.

How come FL and MI voters are not holding their elected officails responsible for disenfranchising the voters? They are responsible for causing this mess by breaking the rules . These governors think their states are entitled to play a bigger part in our presidentail elections and will do anything to ensure that happens..

Florida needs to stop interring with presidentail elections. Enough is enoough.

GREAT WAY TO PUT IT MIKE! SAD TO SEE THAT THE SPORTS INDUSTRY HAS MORE RESPECT FOR RULES THAN OUR FUTURE PRESIDENT!

OBAMA '08

I'm confused on what exactly the candidates' opinions on this matter have to do with anything. It is wholly irrelevant what Clinton and Obama think about Florida and Michigan voting. This is supposed to be a democracy.

Let the superdelegates decide. The democrat party leaders did not have to go along with the republicans on this move did they? We have had other states with first a republican primary then a democratic primary?

This change the rules fiasco is typical of what the democats will do if put in power! Our enemies will be laughing at us at what the democats agenda will be...Gay marriage,late term abortion,amnesty
and blame Republicans for all their problems. Now I know why women were not allowed to vote...Because by and large they are the ones supporting these agendas.

Just like the Democrats in NJ, we now have the national group who can't keep to a set of rules. Too bad Florida and Michagan. The DNC made the rule, both candidates accepted it, and now they are crying. Doesn't this sound like NJ Democrats breakig the rules to elect one of their own when the favorite did not really turn out to be the people's favorite. Clinton and Corzine- perfect together

WHAT A WASTE OF MAN-HOURS AND MONEY!

FORGET ABOUT FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN! THEY MADE THEIR BED SO LET THEM SLEEP IN IT.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS AFRAID OF THE PEOPLE FROM THESE TWO STATES VOTING REPUBLICAN - SO LET THEM!

YOU CAN DO ALL THIS AND THEY STILL VOTE REPUBLICAN.

ITS AMERICA HOME OF THE FREE AND BRAVE!!!

It is the right of every voter to have their votes count by whatever means they can. Why should the 2 million that voted be punished for mistakes the stupid republican party decided to do. Let their vote count. Go Hillary! Go Hillary! Go Hillary.

The Democratic Party better watch out, it is just about evenly divided and trying to force either candidate out of the primary or stop it prematurely would be HUGE mistake.

the solution is simple, let Michigan and Florida revote, in anny manner they chose (on chewing gum wrappers with crayons for all I care).
Count the votes
divide the delegates
Only give each state 2 delegates and no superdelegates.
if there is a 60-40 split of greater than the winning candidate gets both delegates less than that each gets one delegate
Everyone is happy, the voters votes get counted, the rules are respected, and I do not have to listen to the whiners any longer

The other 48 states followed the rules and their votes are counting. Florida and Michigan did not and their votes are not counting. Sounds fair to me. If you break the rules you have consequences. If they allow a re-vote the DNC might as well have all primaries on the same day and get it over with because many states will try to move up their contests because they know nothing will be done. Don't change the rules in the middle.

There's gonna be a rumble in Denver!! Bring it on!

Thank you, Glenn! Obama's camp has pulled the race card far more than anyone else. Who knew fairytale was a racist word???

Now General McPeak needs to apologize for saying that Obama is a better commander-in-chief because he doesn't "go on television and have crying fits?" That's the gender card. Men can well up and be "sensitive" but a woman can't show a tear. Obama–reject and denounce this man–and then apologize.

Although it's a good thing to add to Obama's resume–doesn't cry on TV. That really rounds it out.

Chairman Howard Dean, you are too slower than the leader of the republic party, facing the same problem. Your indecisive characteristics would be the root-cause of the failure of your party in 2008 election and you are going to send other 8 year of presidency of United States of America to John McCain.

why are we taliking about something that's already bin over with.i wonder if obama had won those 2 states by a land slide.if hillary would of bin pushing this???????????????

Oh Dean, just end it already! According to the way the system is set up, even with those two states, hillary would need more than 64% of all future delegates from this point on to get more pledged delegates than Obama, and in order to get that kind of lead, she'd actually have to get like 76+% of the vote. There's no way this can happen. Just end the darn game before hillary destroys the party.

I'm sorry people in MI and Florida don't have their vote count. However, due to the undemocratic way their respective elected officials handled this situation, there seems to be no way to settle the issue favorable. The rules are very clear. The Democratic party has sole control over who will be the presidential nominee and can control however that candidate is selected.

Yet the party cannot disenfranchise voters in the general election and voters must must hold their elected officials accountable for this.

Stop trying to manipulate the outcome! The voters of Florida and Michigan have voted. Case closed. In a democracy, you don't have another election just because you don't like the outcome of the first one, unless there is fraud. And you sure as hell don't have a bunch of party bosses determine the outcome. What happened to the spirit of democracy in America?

At least our Chairman is not bending to do what ever Clintons NEEDS him to do!!! and CNN stop you BIAS towards Clinton please I really can't stand it... I stoped watching some of your shows because you all only talk about what Clinton needs... what Clinton should do... etc

Hey Dean

Unfortunately, Florida is messing up the election process, in what is a national primary. Florida F'D up in 2000 and now again Florida F'D up in 2008. The Florida Democratic Party and Florida State Legislature seem very inept at following rules and coming up with solutions. I am sick and tired of the pundits on TV yelling or demanding that Florida votes should count. The news media is missing the real story (although less sexy) in the details of how the Florida and Michigan primaries got moved up and who are the ones responsible in each state. When you got Hillary Clinton demanding that Florida and Michigan delegates (& also superdelegates) be seated as is and based on bogus results, you know that Hillary's campaign is on the ropes.

The simple and fair solution is to not seat any superdelegates from Florida and Michigan, split Michigan pledged delegates 50/50, and take Florida results for pledged delegates as is. If this whole fiasco is really about the millions of voters in Florida and Michigan, then the Florida and Michigan superdelegates should not mind sitting out of the vote.

Obama in 08!

The only fair way is to let florida and michigan's votes count. All this arguments over what Obama and HIllary wants is completely undemocratic and ridiculous. At the end of the day, it is all abou the voters. No democracy can call itself a democracy when it discount the votes of over 2 million of its people. Get real folks and both campaigns should stop fighting this....especially the Obama campaign...let the voters speak....what do you have to fear....its called democracy stupid!

THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO IS TO OBEY THE RULES AND MOVE ON. WHY IS THIS EVEN AN ISSUE? RULES ARE RULES AND THEY SHOULD BE RESECTED!!! IS THIS HOW OUR FUTURE WILL BE IF HILLARY IS PRESIDENT?

OBAMA '08

How many times are you supposed to apologize,once was just fine.

This is a good test... for both candidates. I'm sure both are cynical that the other will propose something that would have an advantage to themselves.

Clinton and Obama need to show us, the party, their supporters, the country... that they can work this out.

OBAMA...

YOU HAVE JUST LOST THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR TWO

REASONS:

1. TRYING TO DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM ALLOWING THE VOTERS OF FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN HAVING A REVOTE..YOUR TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING...YOU ARE NOT ABOUT THE "UNITED STATES" AS YOU CLAIMED IN YOUR BIG SPEECH AT THE LAST DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION

2. YOU CAMPAIGN CONTINUES TO PULL THE RACE CARD...AND GERALDINE FERRARO WOULD NOT APOLOGIZE...SHE WAS ON ALL THE PRIME TV NETWORKS AND TOLD EVERYONE HOW YOUR CAMPAIGN USED THE RACE CARD ON HER AND BILL CLINTON...TWO BIG SUPPORTERS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY....

SO WHATS HAPPENED ANY POTENTIONAL WHITE VOTERS YOU WERE GETTING....ARE NOW GOING TO VOTE MCCAIN

SO MUCH FOR THE "NEW POLITICS"

A FORMER OBAMA SUPPORTER

Geeee, I wonder why he didn't think of that last year??

I'M tired of the mainstream media and others blaming Dean for the chaos in Florida. The real CROOKS are the Republican Governor, his goons, and some of the Florida Democratic Goons so they need to fix this matter. End of Story!! Move on

STICK WITH THE RULES!! THE NFL AND NBA changes rules after the season ends not during the SEASON.

THE DNC can changes the rules after this election is over so that we will not be subjected to this mess next time!!

MI and FL BLEW IT!!!

Obama will fair fine in a mail in vote. I don't think Hillary should be pushing this. I think its over for her. We need to start concentrating on McCain. Dean needs to pull the plug on Clinton's campaign.

He obviously doesn't want to do anything about this. Honestly, if McCain takes Charlie Crist as his VP then Florida will go Republican anyway. Hillary's whole point is that if they don't do anything about this then Florida will vote McCain. Looks like they might anyway without spending another 15 million on a new primary.

Great now we have delegates in Iowa who plan to vote uncommited on Sat, just to see what kind of influence the what 14 remaining delegates in Iowa will have in Denver. What is wrong with the race?