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The Democrats of Florida want our votes counted. If not, we'll take them with us to the Republican camp in November. "You broke the rules, so you don't get to vote". Keep reciting that statement all you want, but your O'man will pay the price in November. Don't count on Florida for the Dems in November!

Florida is starting to leave a bad taste politically speaking. Florida was the problem in 2000, part of the problem in 2004, and now this. Florida should NOT be allowed to vote – PERIOD!

They knew what they were getting into when they turned thier back on the DNC, NOW they want the DNC's forgiveness? What type of example does that set for my son? Why type of example does that set for the United States? Haven't we broken or ignored enough rules in the past 8 years? Now, it's seeping over to the Democrats?

No re-vote, no delegates.. The people of Florida voted in these Republicans and DINO's and as far as I am concerned, they entrust those lawmakers to do what is right in their name. With enough pressure, the Gov could have veto'd the bill. All Dem primaries should be closed to avoid the shenanigans going on right now..

As a Florida voter I am pleased with the decision.

That's it, pack it in she meaning Hillary need to concede this thing, there is no way in the world she can catch him now. No revotes in Fl and MI doesn't want to do it either. Even if she gets a few delegates from PA it will all be erased by the next contest in IN and NC and then it's a long losing streak from there on out to PR where apperantly she believes she has an advantage because they are hispanics, well I don't know if someone told her this but Puerto ricans are NOT Mexicans and growing up with both in my neighborhood their's not a big difference between blacks and puerto ricans in other words don't look for a victory there.

Sorry Florida. You diserve to be heard, but you need to understand that if we don't play by the ruls, we must pay the consequenses.

And I don't want to hear them complaining about who won later!

It's sad when free political speech in this country is thwarted under the "racist" claim. Geraldine Ferraro is no racist and the Obama campaign and their supporters should be ashamed for making this accusation.

Heck, Obama's own wife (Michelle) said worse things about his apparent "stinky" side in her interview earlier this year.

SUMMARY:

1) IF A RE-VOTE HAPPENS, IT CAN BE ONLY IF APPROVED BY BOTHCAMPAIGN. iF NOT, IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL AND REVERSABLE IN COURT

2) UNDER THE GIVEN CONDITIONS, A CREDIBLE MAIL-IN VOTE IS
IMPOSSIBLE, SUBJECT TO FRAUD AND ERRORS, AND THEREFORE EQUALLY REJECTABLE IN COURT

3) THERE IS NO FUNDING SOURCE IN SIGHT for ANY RE-VOTE

4) IT IS OBVIOUS THAT HILLARY IS REALLY NOT INTERESTED AT
ANY RE-VOTE. ALL THIS THEATER IS ONLY A INTENT TO SEAR THE
FLAWED DELEGATES VOTED IN JANUARY BOTH IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA, WHICH WOULD BE AGAIN EVEN MORE ILLEGAL

5) SHOULD A RE-VOTE HAPPEN, IT WOULD, GIVEN THE PERSPECTIVES SHOWN BY THE OPINION POLLS, RENDER A DELEGATE SHIFT OF MAXIMAL +/- 15 , THERFORE ALL SAID THEATER WOULD BE TOTALLY MEANINGLESS , AFTER MANY
MILLIONS $ SPENT !

ALBO

This is a simple case of the DNC in FLA being a bunch of sore losers and whining about doing it again. They should take their medicine and shut up.

Florida votes should have counted as is. I'm still looking for the headlines about Obama's racist preacher. He really hates white people.

Yes, but the pledged delegates of FL should be seated. Obama has said they should be and I agree. The only fair way is a 50-50 split.
As far as the superdelegates, that can be open for discussion. They should go with the candidate with the most pledged delegates. At present Obama is up at least 160 pledged delegates.
If everything was reversed, everyone would be asking Obama to drop out and rally the party around Hillary. The show is over. Lets just redo Michigan in April (without repeat Republican Primary voters) and crown Obama after he wins.

Ya think she made racists statements? She is just a person giving an opinion. Talking racism to obama or his supporters is like preaching to the quire, wait it is the preacher preaching to the quire. Obama yelling race foul is so freakin funny it is pathetic. He has been at a church for 20 years listening and supporting a rev. that says god d@@@ america. The good rev has also said our government feeds drug to black people, what a joke. And that we should not lock people up for the 3 strikes. 20 years with this man. To me it explains the Michelle Obama statement "for the first time I am proud of this country". Oh and the icing on the cake is he said(the rev) that we are responcible for 9/11. I think everyone needs to look at Obama's preachers teachings. The fruit doesn't fall from the tree.

Oh my god...I'm moving anywhere that isn't called "Florida". Our elected officials at the state and federal level are pathetic. State legislators moved the primary with Gov's blessing. Now, they cry "foul". Congressional House delegation says "No re-vote!". Well, this is another fine mess the politicians have gotten us into....don't blame the DNC, they've been clear from the get-go. Florida made it's bed in the prickle patch – now we can lay there and scream but no one should pity our "unheard voices"....we asked for it.

Wolf:

Who broke the rules? Was it the voters? Still waiting.......... Exactly.

Great!!! Thanks for Dems in Florida thinking about the party. We need to set examples for others. We cannot correct one mistake with another mistake. At least Florida taught a very good lesson for everybody about breaking rules. Especially for the young generation. I know republicans would have like to go for a revote or anykind that will be a disgrace for the party in november

They broke the rules and now they have to suffer the consequences!!!! Seat the delegates at the convention with neither candidate gaining an delegates.... FAIR IS FAIR....
For all those that will say the Floridan will be upset that their votes were not counted, you must remember it is there political party in Florida fault not Hillary or Obama so please keep the hating on the candidates to a minimum. Remember, we must unite as one whenever a nominee is named!!!!!!!
Thanks.

Please explain to me in simple terms so I can understand.

How could you give the people in Florida mail in ballots when they can't read a simple ballot or instructions. Think back to the 2000 election, then foreward to the 2004 election. Then you want them to vote on mail in ballots. They (democrats) dont have the brains to lick the envelope to seal it, and would probably neglect to enclose the ballot.

I submitted my comment but it was not posted. Can someone tell me why?

They are right to reject it. I wouldn't trust the Obama campaign or their Republican allies not to instill fraud in a mail-in vote.

But Obama would be very very very foolish to disenfranchise Florida.
He ran advertisements there, not HRC>

Good,now we will see if Dean and the DNC have the backbone to seat these delegates.

Seat the delegates that they have now, it's unamerican not to count an election that has already been held, it would be unamerican not to honor the will of the people, the people of Florida have already spoken, shame on Howard Dean.

It's not a matter of a re-vote it's about the rules, FL an Mich broke them. I feel for the people but they too knew when they voted it would not count, and now you want them to pay for the politicians who jumped the gun. I seriously hope the people would wake to smell the coffee. There must be something in for them, not the people but for the politician. Well, better luck in four years, this time follow the rules.

When I was a kid in Wisconsin, at picnics in the summer they would have piles of sawdust with pennies in them, and kids would dive in to see how much they could dig out. How about if in Florida the Dems have a big pile of chad with 100 pennies in it, and Hillary and Barack dive in and however many pennies they find, that's the percent of the delegates they get. Would be almost as much fun watching that as watching the utter chaos in the Democratic primary season.

If we cannot trust florida with in person vote count how can we trust them with mail in vote. Let us remember 2000 election. We shouldn't be changing rule in the middle of the game. there should be no re-do

"We didn't mess up the primary, the REPUBLICANS did."

"Vote for me, I'm a DEMOCRAT!"

Think these folks are screwing the voters just so they can get votes come election time... SAD

Why is florida always causing trouble with elections

Thank you God! There are actually some people in Fl with some common sense! Now we can close this chapter.

Next time, pay attention to the rules and follow them instead of whining and expecting special treatment later.

We are beyond allowing even the possibility of corrupt voting procedures...even in FL!

SPLIT THE VOTES IN HALF! Give half of MI + FL to each of the remaining candidates and then seat their delegates. That way everybody wins...

Thank you Gov Dean for your FAIRNESS, WISDOM, and non-partisanship – you are truly the election doctor. I especially appreciate that you voted for neither candidate. Keep it honest, the whole world, again, is watching. Dean didn't make the rules: Florida Mich signed off on them, together with Obama and Clinton. Rules are rules

To Florida and Michigan: Fire your elected officials the next time they are up for hire. Everybody I know personally stayed home because we thought it wouldn't count. What's next? Going to the supreme court to have them decide a state matter like 2000?

I voted knowing my vote would'nt count because of them breaking the DNC rules. I do not want a revote in my state. What's done is done....The only reason why it's being brought up now is that Hilary needs us.

Many people that were going to vote that day stayed home because of the vote not counting including my wife...Alot of Obama supporters stayed home because of the vote not counting.

Thanks God now we do not have to hear your stuipid demand for revote. Case Closed no more barking from the Wolf. You Break the rule you pay the price.
NOT , IN FIRST PLACE THIS PENALITY IS ABSURD. FOR OWN PARTY TO IMPOSE THIS TYPE OF CRAP ON ITS OWN PEOPLE SHOULD BE CRIMINAL. TO DISFRANCHISE IN THIS MANNER. ALL THEY ARE DOING IS ALLOWING REPUB'S TO WIN IN NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.

Just split the delegates 50/50 and move on!!!

Indeed. Imagine next primary season when all the other states realize they do not have to follow the rules.

Why do we need a 'do-over'? Why not let the orignal vote count and be done with it?

everyone should have the right to vote! last time i checked i thought this was the USA?????? where do you live at wolf????

Blitzer should apologize to Wexler for how rude he was yesterday in their interview. FL & MI knowingly broke the rules . . . in a Spitzer world, you pay the price. Only in the Clinton world do you get away with breaking the rules.

Oh, and CNN needs to be a little more consistent in how they censor, sorry "moderate", these comments. You let a lot of comments through which are horribly offensive personal attacks. Shame on you.

So, what will Hillary do now?

Hillary may now want to threaten to go to court.

The rules don't apply to her.

I'm an Obama supporter and I do support a recount. But whoever dreamed up the idea for a mail-in vote needs to be fired. The states that do have a mail-in ballot developed it over the course of 10 years not 10 minutes....

I have voted democrat for over 10yrs but if my vote does not count than I will definently vote for McCain (not a bad choice anyway). I know there are many like me. Can the democrats afford to lose are swing state?

Oh for God's sake, stop anguishing over what to do. Just distribute the delegates according to the already held, fair and legitimate election. It was an even playing field for all contestants (except that Obama ran an ad there in defiance of an earlier agreement). No one should complain about that. . . just let it go. Let the voices and votes of the Floridians be heard.

THANK GOODNESS!!!! SO WE CAN MOVE ON !!!!!
1 OF 2 OPTIONS REMAIN

1. EITHER ENFORCE THE RULES AND DONT SIT THEM. ( I AGREE WITH THIS ONE)

2. SPLIT THEM 50/50 AND SEAT THEM

YES WE CAN OBAMA 08 !!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god. However this fight is not over. Hillary is going to file lawsuit after lawsuit to get the super delegates seated.

I don't know if anyone is seeing what game Hillary clinton is playing at here, when they agreed to sign that the florida and Michigan votes would not count , it was because she was so sure beyond any reasonable duobt that by february super tuesday she would be the nominee, things did,nt quite work out that way so now she is desparate and ambitious enough to pull out any stunts to win this election because she feel entitled to it, that is just my opinionshe did not realize that she would be fighting for the president and that is why she is trying to pull in the florida and michigan votes not because she cares about the voters voices counting, but because she wants to win this race no matter what

what exactly is it that the florida voters just aren't getting? here it is, once again, plain and simple.

a) in late 2006 the rules were agreed to by all parties, including state party officials.

b) state party officials were informed at that time, that if they moved up their primaries, they would be punished. half the delegates for republicans, all delegates for democrats.

c) florida and michigan moved their primaries up, in violation to the agreed rules, and were sanctioned.

d) no voters were disenfranchised, as they were able to freely vote/not vote in primaries that were in violation of scheduling rules.

e) for violating the rules, both parties were officially sanctioned by their respective parties.

as the primaries were held, the results should stand as well as the sanctions levied against both states. voters voted/not voted freely, so no one was disenfranchised. if anyone is to be blamed, blame the local party officials, who knew full well the consequences of moving up the primaries, not the candidates or national party officials.

It's really impossible for either of the candidates to agree with any sort of "do-over" at this point in time. Someone will feel cheated.

Mr. Dean should have seen this as a possible result and prevented it from happening as it now has the potential to screw everything up, even splitting the democratic party. If a nominee isn't decided BEFORE May or June......we have a real problem both with our party (splitting, as they seem to be doing now) and with the Republicans being in a stronger position to win in the fall. He should get his body in gear and get those super delegates to swing over to the leader at this point, so it will be very clear who the nominee really is.

RULES ARE RULES! IF YOU BREAK THEM, YOU PAY THE PRICE!

The delegates are going to be seated one way or another, wolf.

I don't think anyone should be disenfranchised, but these states were warned.

They broke the rules.

If you seat them at the convention, you're telling every other state that in the future they can try to move up their primaries. What they really need is a system where they rotate the dates of each states primary vote so every state gets an opportunity every few years to have a say.

But we can't seat these delegates.

Dear Mrs. Chairwoman Karen Thurman,

You acted very irresponsible. You should not blame the DNC or the candidates. You are the one to blame!

The rules are the rules. You knew the consequences upfront when you broke the rule.

MJG

No plan will be percieved as fair to all parties, including the rest of the states [ those other than Florida and Michigan] who just want to go forward. Any attempt to fix this is digging a deeper hole. A very expensive hole. And while the Dems are digging MCCain is digg'in it! Is our party unable to compremise to win in November? The rules were broke the consequences are as they stand. We don't have the resources of time and money to undo the broken system during this important race. I would like to see voters of these states stand for the good of the party and let this go. It would be an honorable sacrifice. Then we need to repair the problems before this happens again. None of this is right or fair. We can only do what is best. Follow the plan. Make sure this never happens again, Just because Dems cut off their nose to spite their face is no reason to now shoot themselves in the foot.

Why do you guys think CNN closed off all comments for the article about Obama releasingi his earmarks.....I find that to be a significant and substantive issue that should be discussed.

He has now released all of his earmarks since he has entered the Senate and his 2006 tax returns.......HILLARY HAS DONE NEITHER!

His call for transparency is not merely a "speech of empty words" but is backed up by action.

That empty suit is starting to fill in mightly nicely!

When Florida & Michigan decided to hold early primaries, the DNC stated that if they did so the votes would not count and the delegates would not be seated. Florida & Michigan decided to go ahead. Both Democratic candidates signed pledges that they would not campaign in those states.
To now suggest that "to be fair" their votes should count is not fair at all. One of the candidates was not even on the ballot, honoring the DNCs ruling.
If we're to teach our children that their word means something, we need to have that example set by our "leadership".
Both states, the DNC and both Campaigns need to stand by their word and not change the rules at this late date.

The whole voting concept is lost on Florida, so let's not stress them out on such difficult undertaking.
Let them rest in their retirement villages, and we'll see them in 4 years.
DrFill

to wolf: ...and sure Floridians are guilty of that... They have to pay the price for error of the politicians, sure...so logic *ironic*

The total number of 2025 delegates needed to win the democratic nomination should be lower to:
2025 – (the number of delegates of the state of Florida plus the number of delegates from the state of Michigan)

2025 – (210+156) = 2025 – 366 = 1659 delegates

This will teach Florida and Michigan a lesson!

Then, what in the world do they want? At least the people of Florida should give the DNC something to work with.

Unfortunately, I doubt this is the end of the story. One thing should be clear though- They cannot possibly try to use the current results from the original primary in Florida. Here are a few reasons why:

1) Everyone knew at the time that it was a meaningless vote. The DNC had already announced that Florida and Michigan were stripped of all of their delegates because they broke the party rules and moved their primaries up ahead of Feb. 5. It was all over the news. The media was calling it a "beauty contest" at the time. As a result, many people who might have voted otherwise, probably did not vote.

2) Don't believe my number one reason? Well check this out: There are only two states so far in which Democrats did not outvote republicans in the primaries. The two states were Florida and Michigan- the same two states that had "meaningless" primaries. Coincidence? I doubt it.

3) All candidates signed a pledge to NOT campaign in Florida AT ALL, and none of them did. The Florida voters did not have the benefit of seeing the candidates in person before casting a vote.

Michigan cannot be counted for the same reasons, plus an additional one- Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot. All of the candidates had been requested to remove their names from the Michigan ballot. Almost everyone did. Hillary refused.

The rules were agreed upon by the DNC and all of the candidates in August 2007. To try to change the rules now is simply not ethical or fair.

On a side note- I read today that Hillary has said that she thinks the Florida results were "fair" and that they should count... What planet does Hillary live on anyway? Considering all of the above, how can she consider those results to be fair?

Hopefully this dramatic an dpainful topic will soon be behind us. There should not be a re-vote!
The delegates should not be seated by the results of an uncontested election!
Some accomodation needs to be reached that seats the delegates but it should be reflective of the outcome of voting by the other states or a 50/50 split!
There has to absolutly be some consequence for trying to ignore the procedures and rules of an agreement!

As the old saying goes, as Florida goes so does Cuba. I wonder if they both actually are under the same political rule.

Example 1: Oh, you say that I can only have two beers by law and be ok to drive, I say I can have a six pack and drive...you cant give me this ticket!
Example 2: Oh, I know you said I cant take steroids or HGH and play professional baseball, but I did it anyways, Im sorry, I want to still play and I want to re-play the whole season!
Example 3: thou shall not commit adultery...but I wasnt married yet so that doesnt count right!
Example 4: I will play by the rules, I wont campaign in Florida becuase there votes dont count because they moved there election up w/out approval....wait, I think those votes should count, the people of Florida have spoken (even though they were republicans who voted for me in overwhelming numbers) I want those votes!

It IS really crappy for the voters......but the leaders of the state should have taken that into account before they decided they wanted to butt in line to be have more say in the outcome.
We reap the harvest we sow.....you wanted more, despite who it would hurt....and you ended up with nothing. I feel sorry for the voters.
Hillary's on board with you though....she's of the same thought process.
Me Me Me !!!!

TRUTH: Obama is the ONLY level-headed and consistent politician i've ever known. We're blessed that he even wants to be our president.

It truly amazes me how Florida and Michigan has become so important in this process. They were punished by the party for moving up in the process(because they wanted to have a bigger voice in who was selected).

But if you now have a revote the whole process is truly tarnished. Their punishment would be that they become very very important in who gets selected.

Where is the deterrent for those who want to break the rule in the future?.

Stand by the rules as they were put in place at the beginning of this process, that's the only fair way of doing it.

Awww, Hillary isn't going to get what she wants? Cry me a river!

Watch now as she demands recounts in the states she lost in. If Hillary has proven anything ... it's that she's willing to drag down the entire Democratic party to win.

Well, without Florida .. .she's toast. Thank God.

Obama 08.

Its Florida! They would have found a way to screw that election up too!

I am an avid Obama fan, and I do think that Florida and Michagan need to be represented.

I think the best way to do this is have a caucus and seat only half the original amount of delegates.

Now I know all the Clinton supporters are gonna say "Caucuses favour Obama"

Not true. If people in Florida care about their delegates being seated as much as they claim to, they'll vote in the caucus no matter who they support.

Look this is not some freakin game show people. This is about electing the next President of the US. Get real.
This is a no brainer... REVOTE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED!!!!!!!!

GOOD!!!!!!

Florida needs to get with the program and stop causing problems. First 2000, and look now. No one from Florida should be mad if they are left out this time. They need to learn how to follow rules and learn how to count.

If my vote in Florida doesn't count towards primary I will not vote in general election. And I'm not the only one. If DNC doesn't want our votes, they won't have them.

It seems to me that the politicians (and the media) have lost their collective minds. Just how difficult a decision is it – spend millions of a potentially flawed and unfair re-do or get the whole thing over and done with by seating the delegates on a 50:50 basis. Isn't the country heading into a serious recession or is wasting money on political egos immune from that fact?

Amen to that! MI and FL are holes in the Primary quilt. It is better to leave them out and hope they decide to play fair in November.

It will be absolutely disgusting if the Florida voters are not heard. the voters should not be penalized because of the DNCs disagreement with the party leaders in Florida. All parties involved need to come up with a solution that supports the will of the people. You cannot just divide the delegates because essentially you would be saying they do not count. If Barack and Hillary can raise sooooooo much money why don't they kick-in some $$ for another primary. As much as I hate to say it, if a revote doesn't happen in Florida the Republicans can count on my vote.

This does not mean that it is over by any means. It will be determined by a judge, unless they find a way to count the votes.

Wow. So in effect they are saying seat our delegates as is regardless of the fact that we broke the rules and a lot of people didn't vote because they were told it didn't count?

I guess disenfranchisement is OK so long as your candidate wins.

Hillary and her supporters really have no shame.

THANKS WOLF YOU SAID THE RIGHT THING. THE MEDIA NEVER DOES!

Stop disenfranchising the whites. You're all racist! Poor whites, they have it so hard.

Split the delegates in half or don't count them at all ! That's the only fair way to do it since 'someone srewed up "

Why do taxpayers continue to allow their public funds to support administration of private club elections? Political parties are private organizations with no standing in our constitutional documents. Would congressmen be involved in a revote plan for the Grand Whomever of the Elks Lodge?

Does anyone see the irony and utter absurdity of Florida/Michigan re-do's? Re-voting rewards these two states with the exact influence they were trying to obtain when they held early primaries against the party rules.

A revote is nothing more than a typical liberal response of being victimized instead of taking responsibility for one's actions. As distasteful as it may be to the voters of Florida and Michigan, the only right the thing to do is to adhere to the rules when they were written. Then there will be no questions about the consequences should this issue arise again.

And then.......Florida and Michigan go to McCain in November!

I agree with you "wolf"

Hillary will do anything, I mean anything to win. She knew in advance about the rules. Now have the nerves to say it's only fair for a do over. Fair- when Obama or Edwards was not campaigning in fla.

Just splits the delgates between the two... and I bet Hillary still would disagree because she will still be behind.

Why are we changing the rules of the game just because the clinton are involved, if the clinton are leading the total delegates will they asked for revote in Florida NO. So if clinton becomes the president is she going to be changing the America Laws and rules along the way if it does not favour her? NO. The rules are there to be obeyed.
Moreover, since Clinton said MaCcain will be a better Commander in chief it is better for her to cross carpet to the Republican and be the running mate to MacCain and stop destroying the democrat

Oh. Wow.. someone other than the Obama camp thinks a mail in ballot would not work!! When he said it yesterday everybody was reay to jump all over him. Now the dems of the very state in question agree that a mail in ballot simply would not be feasable. Let the Florida delegates be seated base on January's vote. Clinton would still be behind in delegates, and she can say she won another BIG state all she wants. Anyone with half a brain knows Florida will go red in November. Michigan needs to re-vote. If my only two choices were Clinton and Kunich, I would have picked her too!

Seat the delegates as the votes were cast. Respect the voter's wishes. The exclusion rule is stupid and only harming the election process and the voters of Florida.

Count the votes as cast and forget the stupid rules that mean nothing.

Just hold regular primaries in both Florida and Michigan. Where there are no machines available now, give the people paper ballots. Where there are machines, use them.

Funding the revotes? Take a loan for the DNC for now. Paying out that debt can always be sorted out later. The important thing now is, to get the voters to hold their votes in a manner that fits the party and its voters. What is the fuss about paying for the revotes? Money can always be raised later, on a loan now.

I am sure there are institutions out there, committed to making a profit on a penny of a monetary loan to, say, the DNC.

They have already voted, give them their delegates.

ACCORDING TO KEITH OLBERMANN SEN. CLINTON IS RATED AS OF TONIGHT AS THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS TRUE, SEN. OBAMA IS THE JOE LOUIS, FDR, AND JFK OF OUR GENERATION.

JUST AS THE MOVIE SAY'S IF SHE TRIES TO CHEAT SEN. OBAMA OUT OF THIS ELECTION. "THERE WILL BE BLOOD".

YES WE CAN
OBAMA/EDWARDS"08

What in the world is going on because the report and those interviewed don`t say what they are proposing nor do they say what`s at issue or wrong with a mail-in and primary. As a Floridian, I have defected from a supporter of Obama to Hillary because I can see that Obama does not want FL&MI to have a say. He`s doing his double-talk again with saying he`s gonna do whatever the DNC want then say he`s `concerned`about a mail-in when he sponsored a mail-in vote bill. Don`t add another flip-flop to NAFTA, Iraq war withdrawal, and campaign finance Obama.

The will of the people in FL&MI better be heard or the nomination will be a fraud. Voters didn`t change any dates. The excuse is that he wasn`t on the ballot in MI and didn`t campaign in FL-neither did anyone else-Well here`s his chance if he proclaims that it would of made a difference, so stop the stalling because the demographics don`t favor you. You don`t hear others say well Mississippi is all black so let`s stop their votes from counting. I will vote McCain if there is no re-vote in FL&MI, as will all those I`ve spoken to in FL, and make it a
personal crusade to have all in MI&FL to do the same in November.

Finally...lets move on now

I heard somewhere that it would be illegal under FL law to do a mail in ballot. Does anyone have any info on that?

I dont care about Florida anymore. Their elections are always a fiasco. The fact that the republicans pushed up the primary date doesn’t matter because it shows a COMPLETE lack of negotiating skills on behalf of the democratic party in Florida. There are other states that have different primary dates for either party, so I don’t understand what’s wrong with Florida democrats negotiating the same thing.

Besides, the dems won’t win Florida anyway. The last time a democrat won was in 96 because Perot got 9% of the vote, Dole got 42% and Clinton only got 48%. Before that it was carter in 76.

Great news at lease they will have a chance to vote in November. Let's hope those dummies who run the two disqualify primary states can count the votes correct.

If there is a revote, we'll have people in Florida and Michigan who get the opportunity to change their mind. Someone who voted for Obama in January could now vote for Clinton, or someone who voted for Clinton in January could now vote for Obama. The people in the other 48 get no such opportunity.

If there is a revote, I'll be forced to switch my support from Obama to McCain, whether I like it or not. He'll be the only candidate in the race whose nomination was achieved legitimately.

Just the mail in plan has been rejected. If they have no re vote at all then All voters should revolt! I will not vote in the GE!!

Ok, Now Hillary People please read this article and remember it.

There is nothing in here or in any previous article that says Obama doesn't want the voice of people from Florida and Michigan to be heard!

The very opening line reads:

Florida's Democrats in Congress rejected Thursday a plan for a combined mail-in and in-person primary election to let the state regain its 210 national convention delegates."

key phrase: "Florida Democrats in Congress'

As a fifty year old white male police officer who supports Obama. If the Florida vote counts I will have been disenfranchised and marginalized by the Democrat Party and the Clinton supporters who feel that they do not have to abide by the rules that I obeyed by not casting my Obama vote.

I would really suggest you STOP haggling and use the fastest way to revote. Mail in, walk in whatever you can do. FL leaders made this mess and they should do whatever is necessary for your citizens to be able to vote. Who knew that the original voting date of FL WOULD have an impact on the results. Next time FOLLOW the rules with which YOU agreed.

Please find a plain that works. I guess for me ever since what happen in 2000 I am not happy the way in which your state does anything.

I will send 5 bucks to do revote and I am sure there are many people in the usa that would too. Set web site to collect money and see if you can raise the money.

If it is so important to Karen Thurman that Floridians "be heard" then why the hell did they change the primary date knowing the consequences to begin with?!?!?!?!?

Thanks God now we do not have to hear your stuipid demand for revote. Case Closed no more barking from the Wolf. You Break the rule you pay the price.

Florida had a fair and legal election in Jan '08. Both names were on the ballot. Both were well known. Hillary because she is married to a former president and Obama because he is a black senator AND friend of OPRAH who had endorsed him in SC. Moreover his national ads ran in FL. Over 2 million voted. If the less than 10,000 votes cast in the WY caucus can speak for the entire state, surely the more than 2 million votes cast in January can speak for FL. A redo is not necessary here.
How did the DNC think they could get away with this rule anyway?
Throw the boneheads out before the 2012 elections. Real Democrats Don't Quit !!!

My question to the Democratic leadership of Florida would be this.
It is a given that the primary held was declared invalid, and in all reality it should be invalid. Take into consideration a simple fact that slightly over 1.4 million democratic voters in Florida cast a vote and over 2.6 million failed to vote because they were told their vote would not count. (state party officials state there are 4.1 million registerd democratic voters) There is no way it can be said that the existing vote accurately reflects the voters voice when that many did not vote.
Thus considering their voice was already not accurately reflected in the existing primary, just how do you want show their voice? If not by a redo, a new primary, or a mail in vote or a caucus, then how?

This is such a mess. I live in Florida. I voted McCain, so my vote counted. Anybody that voted Democrat, I feel sorry for you because people did cast votes for nothing. It wasn't the voter's fault. Florida moved up their primaries, but look who's paying for it. What exactly would Florida have gained for moving the date up anyway? Imagine being the state that would play a big part in choosing the candidate if we held our primaries tomorrow. Hopefully this will be resolved quickly.

Jeremiah Wright. You all need to look him up. WOW. Some of the stuff he is saying is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay crazy.

Why should we have a re-vote now where at the begining everyone agreed with the resolution?

I do not agree with senator Clinton, it seems to me she'll do anything to get the nomination. Please note this Mrs Clinton, I made a mistake by voting for you in January but time if it's to be a new primary my vote for you will be a minus not a plus.

Tired of all that nonsense.......................

Had Florida state officals and the Florida democratic party truely wanted to make their voters heard, they would have made changes before when they were told their delegates would not be seated. They are now trying to save their own jobs by "fixing" the situation. Don't blame the candidates for Florida's mess up!

I don't trust the mail-in votes...I think that the voters of Florida and Michigan should take this up with their elected officals, they got them into this mess!

You know, I'm thinking they have maybe 2 weeks or maybe 1 week or less to try and get this done. I think there's no question that they need to get this done anytime soon. Hey, if I had millions and millions of dollars that I don't need, or let alone have a couple of thousand bucks, I'll try to help them out. But I'm not REAL wealthy, I'm just wealthy enough for myself personally.....but I do think they will try about a week or so or less.......

No matter what happens, Hillary will lose. She and Bill have said too many things that are to hurtful to the voters to be able to forgive.
Obama is great for America!!!!!!!!!!!!

Florida, voter for Obama
Michigan, Vote for Obama

Whites for OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALL THE WAY to PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

From Retired Professional w/woman of 63 for Obama
All the way.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi shouldn't throw stones at anything Clinton and Obama do or don't do. She got her seat by way of attrition – and she has done nothing but be the pretty lady Speaker since.

She has been riding the coattails of her position in a do nothing Congress since she took over as Speaker.

Until she does something substantial – there may be another Republican President who picks someone who might do something.

By the way – don't let anyone say anything nasty about Obama. He might get his feelings hurt, or his wife's. We must not sling mud only at Hillary – its been a free for all since day one on her. Thank you America for being so mean spirited.

This is NOT fair to the States who played by the rules!!!!!!
The votes should be split evenly ......that's it......no money needed, no redo..... next time obey the RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's an idea: Let Florida do the primary over, invite Clinton and Obama to participate, and if either one declines, say oh well. You had your chance. As long as they know there is a primary election that will be counted, its up to them to put their names on the ballot or not, just like Obama had the chance to put his name on the ballot in Michigan. If he chooses not to run in Florida or Michigan, that's his decision. But I bet he will – after all, he ran his campaign ads in Florida for 2 weeks against the DNC rules before.

The people of Florida should be outraged by their politicians who decided to violate the rules of order established and agreed to by all 50 states...regarding the primaries.

Perhaps Floridians should recall these politicians as a consequence of their actions...especially now in refusing to take responsibility for the situation they created, instead of looking to the DNC or the Obama and Clinton campaigns. Stay the course...Howard Dean and DNC!

Nothing new!!!! Go Mccain..... Go......

No Hill' on the Hill.... Your the man!!!!

Good, hold a caucus that way Republicans can't mess with it.

Give it up folks! You guys thought you were more important than the other 48 states, broke the party's rules and now you should just sit this one out and think about what you've done to your state's voters.

This nomination process is going to come down to the superdelegates anyway – so why bother. Spend your limited funds to make sure the November election works correctly for a change.

This is like having a football team score a touchdown before the game started (without the other team on the field) and then asking the referees to count those points. Come on – enough already.

Like I commented months ago: FL and MI voters – you're just wasting your time. Time you can't get back. Hope you didn't waste all day doing it!

Very misleading post: "Florida's Dems" is not the same as Florida's Democratic House Delegation. This is a group of Congressman from FL. Last I heard they are not the final arbiters of whether this happens or not.

Bravo to the Florida Democrats for standing up for what is right. I do not support disenfranchising voters at any time, but frankly I think that Florida and Michigan both knew what they were doing when they moved up their elections. Personally, I believe that Florida has caused enough problems in this country over the past 8 years – between hanging chads in 2000 and this fiasco now, the people of Florida need to recognize that their lawmakers and their election process is broken and they need to just not be seated this year, period. Perhaps that will send a message to the Florida lawmakers to fix their system and quit trying to tamper with elections. So, I apologize to Florida voters who were let down by their elected officials, but there is no fair way to let Florida revote; those delegates should not be seated. If they are, it is a travesty and a sham.

Florida and Michigan broke the rules. Why are we still discussing this? If the big deal is that neither can get the 2025 (which is not true – do the math) than adust the 2025. Whoever has the most delegates when its all said and done gets the nomination. We dont need FL or MI. They will still be able to vote in November – just dont mess it up a second time.

The situation is even worse in Michigan, where the Michigan governor (Jennifer Granholm), an ardent supporter of Hillary Clinton, conducted a bogus election in which Senator Obama was not even on the ballot. This sort of "Russian election" is not tolerable. Granholm created the problem. Ask her how she is going to fix it. Both of these states need to revote, or it simply isn't fair. The politicians in these states that screwed it up need to fix it.

They believe all Floridians deserve to be heard, but are against the proposed mail in primary vote. Brilliant. Thank you, Florida, for yet again jacking up a presidential election. Your state has to be the worst of all 50 for corruption and incompetence.

What about the 48 states that obeyed the rules?? We think it is very unfair to allow FL and MI to have a do over. If we allow these two this year what can we expect in four years. As adults we teach our children (at least I hope we teach them) that when you break the rules you must face the consequences. O.K. FL and MI you knew what the consequences would be. Sit down and take your punishment. The best way to seat those delegates are to allow them to be at the convention but, the votes will be split equally!!!! Nice people of FL and MI when your elected officials come up for office again you may then show your displeasure by not voting for them, That will send a message loud and clear.

The best thing to do is to split the vote. This will be the fair way to do it.

I MUST SAY THAT KEITH OLBERMANN WAS AWESOME LAST NIGHT WHEN HE TOLD SEN. CLINTON TO DENOUNCE, REJECT GERALDINE FERRARO.

THEIR IS GOOD NEWS FOR SEN. OBAMA HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA. DALE EARNHEART JR. JUST ENDORSED SEN. OBAMA THAT IS GREAT. SEN. OBAMA AN AMERICAN HERO.

YES WE CAN
OBAMA/EDWARDS '08

Can someone explain to me why the Florida's Democratic congressional delegation is being so stubborn? Why won't they fix the problem they created? The officials in Florida only want to cry fowl to the problem they created. This is just more hipocracy in democracy.

Florida Democrats can't agree on a solution, hence the DNC has only two responsible responses left and those are either to uphold their ruling and strip them of their many delegates or share them evenly between the two candidates. Either way Clinton ultimately loses. Sorry ol' gal, it's just not yours this time.

it looks like this road block isn't going to be resolved.

Looks like they are either going to have to exclude the delegates or cut them up 50/50

nobody can contend that the Florida primary was fair to both parties.

Obama was unable to campaign, at the time he was a relative unknown next to Clinton (who DID hold several "fund raising" events before the primary)

The results are completely skewed and are unacceptable "as-is"

Even a re-vote is unfair to Obama. People may see Clinton's self serving crusade for a re-vote as a reason to give HER their vote instead of Obama.

Florida's unwillingness to follow simple rules and a candidates ruthless attempt to steal an election should not be the reason for her to win a state.

There is no way to hold a NEW impartial primary.

So the original DNC ruling has to stand as is.

This is too rich, grow up Floridians. First you break the rules knowing what would happen then cry you aren't getting your way. Then when people try to plan a way for your votes to count you cry about not liking that plan. It appears you want it your way or no way. Well I think a lot of the states that followed the rules would be happy to send you packing. Will Florida ever be able to hold a fair election process while following the rules designed to keep things fair? At this rate it doesn't look like it

Good. These states must be made to understand that they will NOT play a bigger part in our presidentail election then everyone else. Follow the same rules or pay the consequences. Now, lets split the votes 50/50 and move on already.

FL and MI voters can formally thank their state govenors for creating this mess during the next election.

Those delegates will be seated. I cannot imagine a situation where they are not seated. Obama's idea that they be split is not only undemocratic it is outrageous. They should be willing to go and campaign. They have claimed that everywhere Obama goes he gains support. I wonder why he believes he will not be recieved warmly in Florida and Michigan. Maybe leading a fight to disenfranchise their votes and voice is probably the reason. I am sorry Obama Dramas, but you guys cannot win this augument. Anybody that says it is unfortunate that voters will be disenfrachised but it it the rules is not going to convince the American people, not including African Americans.
GO HILLARY CLINTON
FIGHT ON GIRL

Come on it does not take 'Albert Einstien' to figure this out. No respect of rules and regulations of 'DNC', no vote. It is as simple as this. Florida official representatives knew this ruling of 'DNC" well ahead of time, so what were they thinking when they went ahead anyways. It is them that should suffer, not any another tax payer.

Although I am a Democrat, and will agree 'Reagan' style – when he fired 12,000 Federal Employees (Air Controllers) on illegal strike issue.

End of story!

A.M. Saqib
Houston, Texas

Fantastic!

The public officials of Florida, are finally using excellent 'Judgement"!!!

Stop letting your GOP Governor manipulating you!!! He got you in this mess to begin with!!!

if florida dem. party officials are not willing to consider what appears to be their best options, then their delegates could watch the convention in their homes in florida. it is bad enough that they are actually getting a re-do, despite willfully breaking the rules, now they want to dictate the absolute terms of how this re-do will be like. florida voters need to remember the actions of their leaders and make sure that they have their feelings and thoughts heard in their next state elections.

From 2 million voters point of view, they have already vote. Make their votes not count for is stupid. Make them vote again and again is ever worse.

Doesn't make much sense to me to have a mail-in-ballot. People often times throw away mail and some of them might not get back to them for quite some time. I would say that they redo the whole primary..or better yet have a caucus. Caucuses are easy and they can be held in peoples home so the amount of $ needed for that purpose would not be significant for the democratic party. I know caucuses take time..but those individuals who are truly devoted to politics SHOULD get preference in this election. Either way, people will have to count ballots so that price will be consistent irregardless of what the democrats do.

WE DO NOT NEED IT!

THERE WAS RECORD TURN OUT AT THE POLLS!

EVERYONE CAME OUT AND VOTED THAT WAS GOING TO!

JUST GIVE THE DELEGATES OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT!!!!!!

FLORIDA IS FULL OF A BUNCH OF MORONS!!!!!!!

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED STATE HAS DONE THIS !

AREN'T PEOPLE GETTING TIRED OF IT?

GIVE SENATOR CLINTON HER DELEGATES!

Why can't Florida's leadership ever get their act together? Zero delegates as it should be. The rest of the country pays you no sympathy, boo hoo.

Thank god they rejected it.. It was a stupid idea to begin with... On a side note, Hillary is a Monster...

Sounds to me like Florida's democrats are backing Clinton and just want the delegates seated as is so they will reject any proposal of a revote. FL and MI broke they rules. The votes should not count!

Obama '08!

"Any plan would need the blessings of the DNC and the Clinton and Obama campaigns."

- Obama does not want these votes counted, he will NEVER agree to it, sorry Clinton you lose!