Comments on: Attorney: DNC violating Constitution

By: Roger Burrows

Roger Burrows — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:43:27 +0000

Let those who didn't vote (because they thought their votes wouldn't count?) vote and then divide up the delegates proportionately by votes in the two elections. That way everyone who wants to gets to vote. I presume there is a list of which Democrats voted and which didn't, so it should be easy to decide who is owed a vote. Have them turn up at a venue with photo ID and party affiliation papers so that Republicans can't meddle in the process. Voila, a fair and full vote that Obama can't complain about...at the moment, he has a valid argument.

By: aware

aware — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:28:00 +0000

Seat the Florida delegates. Hillary did not campaign in Florida but Obama ran a TV ad there so the vote is more than fair!

By: aliou salam

aliou salam — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:27:56 +0000

I am a voter from out of florida. you will not dilute my vote. You chose not to vote and edward and other s are already out of the race. Will a redo bring them back in?

By: Dennis

Dennis — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:21:12 +0000

The DNC is not violating the Constitution. I'm an Obama supporter, and I think something should have been done. However, Floridians only have their own legislature to blame for this.

Some of you have suggested this is Obama trying again to get a better outcome. That isn't the case, and shame on you for distorting the facts to make an outrageous attack.

By: dAnnE

dAnnE — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:16:25 +0000

I think that attorney should have paid more attention in his Constitutional Law seminar...the DNC is a private organization and has the right to make its own rules and guidelines. Take it to the Surpreme Court? Ha! What happened the last time the High Court got involved in political elections...Answer: We got stuck w/ Bush for eight years.

By: NotaDem AZ

NotaDem AZ — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:12:57 +0000

The Dems can't even run a fair primary election and they want Americans to trust them with the Nation's welfare and future. What a laugh.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:11:13 +0000

Okay, a Republican govenour and legislature belittle the Democrates. Oh, well it does happen. Next, Obama must be doing flips that he only has to woryy about losing in Michigan, if Florida had also figured out how to do it, the two states just might have cost him the election.
If the rules are the rules, why did Howard Dean say the could press the reset button? You give me a mulligan and I'll take it.

By: BEBBLE

BEBBLE — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:09:55 +0000

The people who are spouting stupidity on how the people of Florida should have no voice because of politicians are definitely part of the Obama clan.

He placed TV ads and his name was on the ballot. He was campaigning thru media.

I am sure that if Obama took the state then there would be an outcry of MAKE IT COUNT or RE-DO.

By: tony

tony — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:09:21 +0000

Here we go again.... every single one of these people questioning or making comments on what has happen to MI. & FL. should be a shame of themselves, these are the very same people who claim how great America is and how if you can't live by the rules then you should leave... the rules were in plays everyone that mattered knew the rules, those that didn't relied on their representative to look out for their best interest, it didn't happen and because of Billary, and her willing to destroy the foundation of democracy to suit her agenda, we have Americans, wanting to change the rules because it didn't fit in their perfect world, and the rules didn't work for them this time... well to bad, it is not the best thing to do and it is certainly not the right thing to do, but the rules in this case are the rules, experience is in play, the rules needed change, change before the game began not while the game is going on... that is what third world countries do, change the rules to fit desired outcome by the privileged. No new vote, the system failed but we have a chance to get it right before the next time, not this time, to do anything other than to just let things be would be un-American, and the anti-Americans will win and they will complain again and again when they feel the rules should be something other to better fit their agenda.

By: VMCal

VMCal — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:08:06 +0000

Florida and Michigan should have had the election when they where told to and none of this would have happened. It is shameful that these two states have caused even more drama in an election that is vital to our future as a nation.

By: SWING STATE FAMILY

SWING STATE FAMILY — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:57:43 +0000

Joke! It's a 'privat' nomination process of a party ... they could go by the alphabet of they wish.

By: Peter

Peter — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:52:00 +0000

Look at the studies about how much more power the average Iowa or New Hampshire voter has than voters in other states and then claim that Floridians were wrong to move their primary up.

By: Izdaman

Izdaman — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:47:59 +0000

The interesting fact about this entire case is that the Attorney involved is the Chairman of the Hillsborough County (Tampa Area) DEC. The compliantant is a close friend of his and was his campaign manager when the attorney ran unsucessfully for State Representative and Judge. I wonder if this will cause more issues in an already screwed up Hillsborough County Democratic Executive Committee.

By: Old Dave

Old Dave — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:45:52 +0000

Bayou Joe is a bigot. Not only that, he is a stupid bigot. And I am white. I am way more educated than that ignorant fool.

By: RightyTighty

RightyTighty — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:44:40 +0000

Ha Ha!!

By: Scott (Florida)

Scott (Florida) — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:41:26 +0000

I really don't understand primary funding! Are Federal, State, Party (or combination of part or all) dollars used to fund the elections? If tax payers dollars, the argument of equal treatment and the DNC calling the shots changes...I would think if the DNC funded the state primary elections, they call the shots, otherwise?

By: I used to be a Democrat

I used to be a Democrat — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:36:38 +0000

The DNC sucks. Period. That is why I am not a member of the Democratic Party anymore. I hope they get there pants sued off them cause they sure have handed the general election to the Republicans.

By: Darrylm

Darrylm — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:36:27 +0000

The rules was agree to by Hillary and Obama, however now Hillary wants them to count she don't care about the party. Hillary only care about herself.

By: R

Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:23:00 +0000

Wow, are these guys lucid? The 14th Amendment does not apply to private organizations. A political party is a private organization. The Democratic and Republican parties are not in the Constitution. It doesn't apply to them.

There is no case to be pursued here. Those state parties broke the rules knowing full well what would happen.

By: Dave

Dave — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:18:36 +0000

Michigan will be just like Ohio...the parts that go for Hillary are the same parts that go Republican in general elections. The urban centers that vote Democrat in November are Obama strongholds.

So I don't get how Hillary figures that winning those state's primaries translates into a win in November.

By: Slap Stick, FLORIDA

Slap Stick, FLORIDA — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:18:27 +0000

My Goodness, We have Snub Heads in Florida as leaders. Just split the delegates. Hillary should be happy about this because even though she won Texas, she still ended up with less delegates. Same thing could happen to her in Florida now that more people are watching Obama.

By: rusty

rusty — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:17:25 +0000

Under no circumstances should a state be rewarded for violating agreed upon rules. It sets a precedent, and encourages more of the same behavior in the future. It isn't Barack's fault, it isn't Hillary's fault, it is the fault those party officials in Michigan, and Florida who were idiotic enough to break the rules in the first place. Blame them.

By: Jean

Jean — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:15:52 +0000

sorry I meant offended not affended. I do care about my spelling not like a lot of other people. All I can say is I feel sorry for you Obama lover because you are so blind with cult like following Of Obama it's really quite scary!!! Jean

By: Grif

Grif — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:15:03 +0000

She? And again? You must mean Hillary.

I guess you have the floor.... Go for it Little Lady!

mimi de la cruz.... Thankyou!!!

By: NickNasc

NickNasc — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:13:58 +0000

If the People of Florida and Mich are so mad then WHY aren't they mad at their OWN POLITICIANS who PUT THEM IN THIS POSITION!!

All we hear is CRYING about not being fair when it is EXACTLY what their ELECTED representatives did on THEIR behalfs.

Is Florida REALLY this inept and clueless that they can do ANYTHING right when it comes to an election?

By: Vig

Vig — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:02:54 +0000

Our fore fathers must be turning over in their graves – between the Bush administration's tramplings on the constitution and now the Democractic party trying to get it's head out of it's buttocks – just light a match and torch the constitution.

By: Vince Los Angeles, CA

Vince Los Angeles, CA — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:53:46 +0000

GEEZ!!!! HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! What the heck is wrong with the people in Florida...?? Why can't they get something SO SIMPLE?

By: Jackie

Jackie — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:52:41 +0000

lets get this right. GORE won the popular vote in 2000 that means more people voted for him than BUSH. remember 2 is great than one
and one person one vote is still there FL and MI just don't get to decide who runs against McCain. They agreed to the rules then broke then. don't do the crimeif you can't do the time

By: mimi de la cruz

mimi de la cruz — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:51:43 +0000

DNC VIOLATING CONCRETE THINKING TO LET THE REPUBLICANS DO IT TO THEM AGAIN, WITH THE FLORIDA SHENANIGANS.

By: Life28SBK

Life28SBK — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:51:26 +0000

How is the DNC violating the constitution? These states BROKE THE RULES... they deserve to be punished. they voted, thats there right and they did that. so please stop crying.

By: Not Given

Not Given — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:50:57 +0000

Let the republicans have Florida already. Let's face it, they voted for Bush in the last two presidential elections, or at least allowed the courts for vote for them and odds are very strong that they will vote for McSame. I think the DNC should just write off the entire state.

At least Michigan is worth fighting for and they have the brains to figure out how to do a re-vote.

By: Gwen NC

Gwen NC — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:44:21 +0000

Votes should always count, we don't need another what if. The DNC shouldn't have authority over voting, maybe how they conduct their own affairs, but not voting. ALL VOTES COUNT, EACH ONE IS AN AMERICAN VOICE!!!!!!

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:43:54 +0000

Good. Keep fighting until there's a re-vote. Obama shouldn't get off this easy.

By: M. S. Indiana

M. S. Indiana — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:40:55 +0000

Can we get news ???

By: M

Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:40:32 +0000

Get over it people, you're sounding like a bunch of cry babies... like Mrs. Clinton! Enough is Enough!!!

By: katie

katie — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:40:28 +0000

Hillary for 2008!

By: Grif

Grif — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:36:00 +0000

Psycho Analysis is nor available for this kind abomination.

Ask the Obama... Abomination!!!

Remember the Movie The FlY! Help................Me!

By: E. C., Houston, Texas

E. C., Houston, Texas — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:32:50 +0000

The DNC can't make its own rules that violate the rights of Voters. It's hard to believe that the DNC hasn't been called on this before now.

By: Grif

Grif — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:30:49 +0000

You Need Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: T_Crawford

T_Crawford — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:30:25 +0000

1. Karen Thurman is heavily tied to clinton
2. Karen Thurman did not go through the proper channels to submit a request that the election count, there was in fact a deadline for such a request
3. Karen Thurman challenged the DNC as far back as August
4. Karen Thurman featured hillary clinton at the top of the florida democratic commitees website in the days immediately leading up to the election, there was no mention of edwards or obama
5. Karen Thurman had the FLA dem committee send out emails announcing clinton's support of the florida vote in the days leading up to the election
6. Karen Thurman is known to have announced Hillary Clinton would be florida's nominee as early as last spring

These are facts, they are not conspiracy theories. Florida voters, you have not been disenfranchised, you have been used by an inept and highly partisan official named Karen Thurman.

By: MARC B (NASHVILLE, TN.)

MARC B (NASHVILLE, TN.) — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:29:41 +0000

As an Obama supporter.....I'd love for the delegates to be seated @ the Convention; however, it's just not looking too promising right now....I was born/raised in Chicago, Ill. where we've always voted "early and often" for our candidate(s). This time, I just think the milk is already on the floor.

By: Richard, Ky

Richard, Ky — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:27:59 +0000

I think it is all a bunch of hog wash. We need to fire all of washington, cut the salary in half and then let the people run that want to change america. We do not need people in there to collect a paycheck and not do their job plus get the lobbiest perks to. We need to eliminate the lobbiest and the strangle hold that this corrupt government has and do what is right. let us have a popular vote and let every vote count and do away with these delegates and electorial bull. We do live in the information age.

By: Jessica, MI

Jessica, MI — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:25:19 +0000

I think you're right Bill from Streamwood. I don't think this is a valid equal protection claim.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:20:46 +0000

Why stop at Florida? Why not have a re-vote in all the other states as well! Anything Hillary wants!

By: Don, San Francisco

Don, San Francisco — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:19:57 +0000

If Florida keeps crying like this, we won't have to wait for Climate Change to put the whole state under water.

By: Sue Marie, MI

Sue Marie, MI — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:19:25 +0000

The DNC has already done a lot of damage in Florida and Michigan. As a resident of Michigan I will be changing my political party from Democrat to Independent prior to the general election. Don't count on my vote, DNC.

By: Ivory Tickler

Ivory Tickler — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:18:19 +0000

Folks are blinded on both sides (Clinton/Obama). However, I find my fellow Clinton supporters more ignorant of the facts. Folks are making stupid and irrelevent arguments that actually make our (Hillary's) camp look even worse. Before you open your mouth, check the facts by at least 2 sources... then put forth your opinion. Otherwise, we supporters look as incompetent as Hillary'scampaign.

Signed,
Open to another candidatre for Prez.

By: La Petite Sorciere

La Petite Sorciere — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:17:01 +0000

mmm, this sounds like Clinton will do whatever it takes...... She agreed to this from day one when she had no oponent, now she wants things changed.. how unsual !!!
since this does not favor her, she now has attorneys filing law suits... I said it long ago, she will start law suits.. which she and Billy are experts at..............
NO more Clintons

By: Gigi Soliman

Gigi Soliman — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:15:44 +0000

Thank you Thank you Thank you.
I'm tired of all these so called "rules". The only rule to voting that the constitution has is that Americans are allowed to vote, and by that, they should be counted.

One man, Mr. Dean, stands in the way of 1.7 million Florida voices counting? I wanna know where Democracy went, especially since this so called party's name has the word in it.

-Angry Floridaian

By: Harold Haddix

Harold Haddix — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:09:12 +0000

Why dont florida just shoot us, and take all the Democats rights.It feels like We are living in russia, It is just not right. Another FIXed Election.Where are we anyway??