March 17, 2008
Posted: March 17th, 2008 05:44 PM ET

(CNN) - The Florida Democratic Party said Monday it would not hold a new vote that would allow the state’s delegation to be seated at the Democratic National Convention, regardless of whether the costs for the new primary were covered by the national party or not.

In an e-mail sent to Florida Democrats, state party Chair Karen Thurman said “We researched every potential alternative process – from caucuses to county conventions to mail-in elections – but no plan could come anywhere close to being viable in Florida.”

The national party stripped Florida of its delegates last year, along with Michigan, when both states scheduled their primaries in January, in violation of DNC instructions. None of the major candidates campaigned there ahead of those votes.

Florida’s Democrats had been weighing several options for a re-vote, including a possible mail-in primary, ahead of the DNC’s June 10 deadline.

“I’m glad that the party has reached the same conclusion that was reach by the congressional delegation a week ago,” said Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential bid who had been staunchly opposed to a re-vote, telling CNN that “now it’s time for all the people involved in ensuring Florida’s delegation is seated to come together and make sure that happens.”

Wasserman Schultz, who said the party’s decision had been reached over the weekend, expressed a willingness to consider a proposal that would allow the full delegation to weigh in at the convention, but for each delegate to get just half a vote.

Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, a supporter of Sen. Barack Obama, told CNN’s Gloria Borger that the Illinois senator would like to see Florida’s delegates counted in a way that would not alter the overall outcome heading into the party’s convention, but “does give Florida the opportunity to vote.” He rejected the one-half person formula that seemed to gain traction last week as prospects for a second primary grew more remote.

The Clinton campaign, which has pressed for the full Florida delegation to be seated, expressed its disappointment with the state party’s decision. “Today’s announcement brings us no closer to counting the votes of the nearly 1.7 million people who voted in January,” said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. “We hope the Obama campaign shares our belief that Florida’s voters must be counted and cannot be disenfranchised.” Clinton won the Florida primary.

In a statement, the Obama campaign said: “We hope that all parties can agree on a fair seating of the Florida delegates so that Florida can participate in the Democratic Convention, and we look forward to working with the Florida Democratic Party and competing vigorously in the state so that Barack Obama can put Florida back into the Democratic column in November.”

State party officials had developed the re-vote plan - which was sent last week to national party leaders, including DNC Chairman Howard Dean, and the Clinton and Obama campaigns - that would have combined mail-in and in-person primary votes in a new contest that would conclude June 3. The proposal would have let the state regain its 210 delegates.

Florida's congressional Democrats soon rejected the plan. "After reviewing the party's proposal and individually discussing this idea with state and local leaders and elections experts, we do not believe that this is a realistic option at this time and remain opposed to a mail-in ballot election or any new primary election in Florida of any kind," they said in a statement released Thursday night.

Thurman said Monday the decision over whether and how to seat the state’s delegation was now in the hands of the national party.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

(updated 7 p.m. ET with campaign comment, additional background)

Full letter below:

Dear XXX,

For a year now, the Florida Democratic Party has tried to comply with the Delegate Selection Rules of the Democratic National Committee.

We researched every potential alternative process – from caucuses to county conventions to mail-in elections – but no plan could come anywhere close to being viable in Florida.

We made a detailed case to the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee, but we were denied.

Our Democratic legislators in Tallahassee tried to set the Florida primary on Feb. 5, instead of Jan. 29, but of course, their proposed amendment to House Bill 537 was greeted with laughter and derision from the Republicans who control the state government <>.

Does ‘537’ ring a bell? It should. It’s the number of votes that separated Texas Gov. George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore in Florida in 2000.

It’s the number that sent this country and this world in a terrible direction.

We can’t let 537 – or the Republicans – determine our future again.

President Bush plans to stop in Florida tomorrow to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for the Republican National Committee’s efforts to elect his successor in November.

The last thing America needs is a third Bush term. Despite the widespread anxiety that working families feel, not to mention the broad agreement among economists that we are in a recession, President Bush and John McCain blindly believe that the economy is strong.

And let me remind you that John McCain endorsed President Bush’s decision to deny health care to thousands of Florida children by vetoing an expansion of the successful SCHIP program. McCain also promises to jeopardize the financial security of Florida seniors by privatizing Social Security. He continually threatens to push Florida’s military families to the brink by keeping American troops in Iraq for “100 years” or more.

This is why we are Democrats, and this is why we must stick together, no matter where this ongoing delegate debate takes us.

Last week, the Florida Democratic Party laid out the only existing way that we can comply with DNC Rules – a statewide revote run by the Party – and asked for input.

Thousands of people responded. We spent the weekend reviewing your messages, and while your reasons vary widely, the consensus is clear: Florida doesn’t want to vote again.

So we won’t.

A party-run primary or caucus has been ruled out, and it’s simply not possible for the state to hold another election, even if the Party were to pay for it. Republican Speaker of the Florida House Marco Rubio refuses to even consider that option. Florida is finally moving to paper ballots, which is a good thing, but it means that at least 15 counties do not have the capacity to handle a major election before the June 10th DNC primary deadline.

This doesn’t mean that Democrats are giving up on Florida voters. It means that a solution will have to come from the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee, which is scheduled to meet again in April.

When this committee stripped us of 100% of our delegates last year, some members summed up their reasoning by saying, “The rules are the rules.” Unfortunately, the rules did not apply to Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina when they, too, violated the DNC calendar by moving from their assigned dates.

As the late great Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, “We must adjust our ideas to the facts of today… Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are.”

The Florida Democratic Party has stuck to its principles throughout this debate. We’ve remained open-minded while never wavering from our commitment to an open and fair election that would allow all Florida Democrats to participate, whether serving in Iraq, retiring in Boca, studying abroad or entertaining at a theme park.

Another late great President –Abraham Lincoln, a Republican – said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

If Democrats heed this wisdom, we will win in November.

America needs a great president again, but a President McCain will settle for the status quo and carry on the disastrous Bush tradition.

President Clinton or President Obama will make history and lead this nation in a new direction.

Let’s remember this as the delegate debate continues. We must stick together as Democrats. The stakes are too high and the opportunities too great.

I will keep you posted on any major developments. Thank you for your concern and your commitment.

Sincerely,

Congresswoman Karen L. Thurman
Chair, Florida Democratic Party

Filed under: Florida


pcteach   March 17th, 2008 10:30 pm ET

I don't know what all the fuss is about in wanting Florida and Michigan voters to actually have their votes count. Everyone knows the "people" who vote do not count, that was proven in the last Presidential Election. If the the voice of the people actually counted Gore would be our president, not Bush. One would think the Democrats would have learned from that fiasco but instead, we dwelled on that one for months. I am tired of all the garbage, lies, and deceptions. The electorial votes should all be trashed and the people should decide, period, end of story. Then all the lawsuits, debating and money could be put to better use instead of lining someones pockets.

DrFill   March 17th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

Finally some good news out of Florida!
I'm Irish, and Florida kissed me.
Sweet!
DrFill

Tim   March 17th, 2008 10:29 pm ET

And with that, any chance Hillary had of winning went out the window.

Tim   March 17th, 2008 10:28 pm ET

The rules are the rules. No revote for either state that broke the rules..

Gaby   March 17th, 2008 9:50 pm ET

OBAMA 08, the one and only!

james purnell   March 17th, 2008 9:49 pm ET

How can the Democratic Party completely ignore the voters in Florida?Yes the state went against the authority of the party but why should the decission of a slect few determine the fate of the intire population?

Don Fl   March 17th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

I am a Dem from fl and all you Obama people are going to be crying come november when Mccain wins over your man. after what come out over the last few days Obama has no chance. I have never voted for a repub but I sure will this time

linda   March 17th, 2008 9:46 pm ET

obviously,,, this election should be based on what the issues are and what the canidates are goin to do about it,, not color race,, or status,,,,, think,, if you were blind and could see what color these canidates were,, and listened to their debates and speeches,, would you vote the same???? america is proud and stands for freedom,, not" hey come on over,,,, get what you can"... this election im being open minded and listening very carefully,, to whats said,, and not listening to the blame, accusations,,,, think,, hillary's record,,,, have you done your homework?(research on her past).. do it ,, then think on what you REALLT want,, higher gas prices?=hillary.. more taxes?= hillary.. etc ,, it goes on and on and on,,, change is good,,,,, at least its a change,, and not the same old crap thats been goin on for years and years,,,, lifes too short to not give this a try,,, (be open-minded)

Ben   March 17th, 2008 9:44 pm ET

A revote was the only reasonable solution.

The Democrats are doing everything in their power to lose the election in November.

I'm so disgusted I don't know what to do.

Asleep at church for 20 years   March 17th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

How many of these state DNC members are Obama supporters?

Lily   March 17th, 2008 9:43 pm ET

RULES ARE RULES!! YOU BROKE IT, YOU PAY FOR IT!!

MCCAIN will get my vote if Billary is the nominee.

Anonymous   March 17th, 2008 9:42 pm ET

RULES ARE RULES!! YOU BROKE IT, YOU PAY FOR IT!!

barry   March 17th, 2008 9:41 pm ET

lou dobbs or michael bloomberg for president

Rechi   March 17th, 2008 9:17 pm ET

I am so furious, this is not democracy, this is pure dictatorship. If Obama becomes the nominee, I am done with the democrats once and for all. I will then and there choose my new party and it will be Republican.

EndNepotism   March 17th, 2008 9:15 pm ET

Ha, ha! No re-votes in Florida! Ha, ha – Michigan will follow.
The DNC is going to have to suck it up.

Frankie   March 17th, 2008 9:12 pm ET

Leave it up to Florida to mess another Democratic race!!!

Todd VA   March 17th, 2008 9:10 pm ET

The people of Florida had a chance to vote in a fair primary. Because they didn't vote on a date the DNC deemed acceptable, they are now being denied the chance to have their voices heard. And in denying these folks their constitutional right, the DNC is attempting to hand the nomination over to Obama who will NEVER be able to win in November. Obama's lack of experience, depth, and understanding of domestic and foreign affairs coupled with his lies about contributions from and political favors done for Tony Rezko, the Larry Sinclair scandal sitting on the back burner waiting to boil over, and the revelation that his close friend and and spiritual advisor of 20 years is a ranting racist, have sunk any chances he may ever have had. The Republican smear machine and 527 ads are waiting in the wings. He's already proven he can't handle criticism well. Unless the Democrats want to lose the White House again, they'd better count every vote and cross their fingers that Hillary wins the nomination.

Aaron - Sarasota   March 17th, 2008 9:01 pm ET

I'm glad that there will not be a re-vote. However, I do not believe it is fair to count the previous primary vote. Like what Nikole (March 17th, 2008 7:51 pm ET) said, Obama would gain a lot of votes if the candidates were able to campaign in the state. Some of Hillary's votes, and it is very evident when you look at the pre-campaign polling, are acquired by her name-recognition alone. Counting the votes as-is would be unfairly weighing the candidates' strengths.

When the campaigns began, I was leaning towards Hillary, but the more I heard out of her campaign, and the more I heard from Obama's, the more I wanted him to win the nomination, and presidency. Hillary's campaign to me is disgusting and hypocritical. It's shameful.

As for my wife and I personally, I am registered Independant, so I didn't get the opportunity to vote for Obama. My wife is registered Democrat, but she wasn't given a ballot with the Democratic nominees on it for whatever reason, so she didn't get to vote for Obama either.

NY   March 17th, 2008 8:59 pm ET

I'm a person of ethics and I don't like bending rules. As both candidates agreed, FL and MI delegates should not be seated, PERIOD. And, as both agreed, if nobody gets 2024 delegates then there should not be a democratic nominee, PERIOD. McCain is the president!

Dave   March 17th, 2008 7:53 pm ET

Seat 1/2 the delegates according to the vote (like the Republicans) and seat the other half 50% for Obama 50% for Clinton. This would draw attention to the fact that the Republicans also punished Florida and Hillary would only gain about 15 delegates thus not disturbing the overall delegate count.

JOE TANG   March 17th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

I just expressed my opinion on Tibet, no violation, very polite, why did you delete my input? only because I didn't support Tibet violence?

Dave   March 17th, 2008 7:52 pm ET

Seat 1/2 the delegates according to the vote (like the Republicans) and seat the other half 50% for Obama 50% for Clinton. This would draw attention to the fact that the Republicans also punished Florida and Hillary would only gain about 15 delegates thus not disturbing the overall delegate count.

Nikole   March 17th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

I have LOTS of family in FL that did not vote (for Obama) b/c they knew it did not count.
It is also important to note that Obama's numbers increase significantly after he has traveled to a state and met with the people there. Even if he lost a revote in FL, it would be a much closer contest.

Venus   March 17th, 2008 7:51 pm ET

Both of the candidates were on the ballot they should just count the results they already have. Hillary won fair and square!! Come on and let florida's vote count. As for Michigan it's not Hillary's fault Obama took his name off the ballot. i guess he figured Michigan wouldn't count so why even bother.

Not Given   March 17th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

Let the republicans have Florida already. Let's face it, they voted for Bush in the last two presidential elections, or at least allowed the courts for vote for them and odds are very strong that they will vote for McSame. I think the DNC should just write off the entire state.

At least Michigan is worth fighting for and they have the brains to figure out how to do a re-vote.

Sophie   March 17th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

The US is supposed to be a democracy. It can't be one without the input of all the people. That's right, ALL the people. Florida is the forth largest state in the country- someone tell me that all the people in Florida 'don't count'. Puhlease! This is not a democracy unless every body gets to have their vote counted.

Wake up people. We want real change, not fancy words and long winded answers that don't even answer the question.

Make the right choice.

Hillary Clinton '08

JFK   March 17th, 2008 7:49 pm ET

Whether Florida revotes or not, the race is not over. This may be hard for many to accept but if Obama wins the popular vote, he may still not get the nomination. If Obama wants to follow the rules set in place, then if he is short on the pledged delegate side, he will need to accept the superdelegates decision no matter what it may be. If more superdelegates support Clinton, thats is their choice. These are the rules in place and many people may not like it, but lets accept the whatever comes from this. Plain and simple to him and everyone else. Maybe then we can move on then to November.

Guy   March 17th, 2008 7:48 pm ET

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." – President Bill Clinton

This typifies old politics, Democrat or Republican. Double-speaking rhetoric. The voters in Florida should oust every elected state official for not allowing votes to count. As for Hillary – do you want the same old rhetoric from a career politician or a new fresh face?

Life28SBK   March 17th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

Florida is like one of the worst staes as far as voting... First that whole Bush- Florida thing and now this... They need to get it together.

Francie   March 17th, 2008 7:47 pm ET

Since there will be no re-vote in Florida, count the voters that did vote.

Susan   March 17th, 2008 7:46 pm ET

Does Hillary know that if she becomes the Democratic Nom that most people will vote for McCain?

This country is disgusted with her already.

Life28SBK   March 17th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

Hillary is about to Cry Us A River!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Claire Canada   March 17th, 2008 7:45 pm ET

Well sorry to say that is a reality check when u break the rules u get punished and that is the bottom line.They knew if they moved their primaries what would happened so now they have to except the consequences and deal with it..U can bet that the Clinton campaign will be yielling and screaming if they don't count and I just hope that what ever happens it will be fair all around .

Mandi Locke   March 17th, 2008 7:43 pm ET

If the people of Michigan and Florida want someone to blame, they should blame their own governors! They should still be seated, but you can hardly call the vote in Florida fair and Obama wasn't even on the ticket in Michigan. Nobody had a problem with them not being seated until Hillary fell behind in the race. Nobody cared about them before that.

OBAMA 08!!! YES WE CAN!!!

Louis   March 17th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

Earth to Clinton supporters:

Your candidate agreed a year ago that the delegates from Florida would not count. The voters knew ahead of time that their votes would not count. Case closed.

ellie wallace   March 17th, 2008 7:41 pm ET

I would not only change my registration to independent but I would tell the Democriot party that if they can't except my vote on the primary then I will not vote democrate in the gerneral election
e
Ellie , Michigan

Tubby The Tuba   March 17th, 2008 7:40 pm ET

Darryl March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Maybe us Democrats just need to vote for McCain.

McSame will need your vote! So go ahead and vote and throw your vote away again. Thanks for going back on your word. Just you forget about a national health insurance program.

Joshua Englander   March 17th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

Listen, I wish Florida could have a redo to get this mess over with, but I am ENTIRLY blaming this mess on the Florida governer. He's a republican, so OF COURSE HE's gonna say NO. I hate him, and he just wants John McCain to beat whoever the democratic nominee is. Well, at least Michigan is onto something, at least we'll get their vote in November.

Obama 08

finally not going to happen   March 17th, 2008 7:39 pm ET

well Florida democrats decised they can't do it. Everyone get over it and move on.

Roger B from Portland, OR   March 17th, 2008 7:38 pm ET

Debra,

I am going to try and explain this very slowly.

Florida agreed to the primary rules. Florida then violated those rules by moving their primaries up and were thusly penalized. By running for the nomination, Obama agreed to follow the rules by not campaigning and accepting the DNCs results.

How is it his fault?

Maya   March 17th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

You can't count the votes as they stand as they stand anyways...if you're talking about disenfranchising voters let's hear it about the ones that stayed home?

NO Obama   March 17th, 2008 7:34 pm ET

I recall sitting in a chair flipping through CNN and MSNBC while visiting family in Naples Florida, just before the primary. Low and behold... what do I see... an OBAMA commercial, ON CNN as well as MSNBC... right there in Florida. I thought Hum, I thought no one was to have been campaigning in Florida yet there it is, right in front of me, OBAMA's commercial...

AND HE STILL LOST.. So what does this tell you?

Anita Marie   March 17th, 2008 7:33 pm ET

I would suggest that those 'millions' of Clinton supporters in Florida get together and do something about their Elected Officials-like I don't know...vote them out of office maybe – so that this doesn't happen again.

YES YOU CAN

man in MN   March 17th, 2008 7:32 pm ET

I guess this means Florida is going Republican this fall...

katie   March 17th, 2008 7:31 pm ET

Florida democrats dont want new election as far I have heard people talking.We had totally legimate election,we voted as we would do again.We had enough imformation and knew who we voted.
I'am glad that nonsense is finally settled. Delegates need to seated as they were voted.

Cindy   March 17th, 2008 7:29 pm ET

Florida government sabotage... at their people's expense. I feel bad for the people of Florida, but total disgust for their officials.

DNC, stick to your guns, don't let the saboteurs get to you.

And Hillary... don't grandstand.

Adam   March 17th, 2008 7:28 pm ET

It's silly this is even up for discussion? Seriously? The rules were set before this whole thing started. Obama agreed to them, Hillary agreed to them. If we give Hillary the delegates what's next? I have a suggestion, from this point forward in baseball after the 5th inning if your team is losing you get 4 strikes rather than 3...

Grif   March 17th, 2008 7:27 pm ET

What did really happen between : 1918 and 1929. Is just about anyone's guess....

Still there's no place for guess-work this time around.

Jeff   March 17th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

They just disenfranchised every single voter who chose not to vote in a primary which they knew wasn't going to count. Are those people who chose to cast ballots for a primary which would be meaningless truly representative of the state of Florida as a whole? I would think not.

Regardless, its over...although we wouldn't dare do the same thing with Michigan, where Obama was not even on the ticket, would we?

Florida voter   March 17th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

Yeah, many are saying that many people in Florida didnt vote because it wouldnt count. The reality is that a record number of voters did vote. VOTE HILLARY 08!

Jay from Brooklyn, New York   March 17th, 2008 7:26 pm ET

(originally posted))
Jay from Brooklyn, New York March 17th, 2008 6:29 pm ET
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Personally, I see this is as a slap in a face. How can a republican run state governements decision to move up their states primary for pure political ego boost, deny the democrats in the state of Florida a voice in its democratic nomination. Its ridiculous to think that a compromising decision couldnt have been brought to the table in time. Whether it've been a revote, or something other then this "take that," mail in system they had in mind, the elected officials representing the people of Florida owed their citizens more. More then the mere ego boost they wanted. Unless some change of plans comes up in the very near future, this will be another dent in the chest of the democrats in the state of Florida. As a democrat I expected more, but as a citizen I know its expected…by now.

Ken   March 17th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Great NEW for OBAMA !!!

OBAMA 08

Antoine   March 17th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

Great idea... Let's split the Florida votes 50/50, that's democratic?

A&A   March 17th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

all the talk about RULES BEING BROKEN HERE...funny nobody mentions the rules about the superdelegates...they can vote for whomever they choose...DIDN'T OBAMA TRY TO BREAK THAT RULE...by suggesting that pledged delegates should influence the superdelegates? and how many have switched because of that pressure so far? WAKE UP PEOPLE

Hill08

Nowhere Man   March 17th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

I've heard that they will be seated, but they have to all sit in the corner, and be very, very, very, very, very quiet while the others are voting ….. shhhhhhh.

We'll now see what kind of backbone Dean has .....

Obama '08!

kelly WI   March 17th, 2008 7:25 pm ET

What about the other guys who were running at the time.?
No 50/50 now.

CMD, Winter Park, Florida   March 17th, 2008 7:24 pm ET

If Obama wins, I'm voting McCain. Barack has shown absolutely no interest in having Floridians' votes count. He's dissed us just the same as he dissed Michigan, and for that, he should lose.

P. Mason   March 17th, 2008 7:23 pm ET

. . .Florida and Michigan, "CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER".

Hemant   March 17th, 2008 7:22 pm ET

I am democrat and now I am sick and tired of this Florida and Michigan election controversial thing. Easy way is vote for republican. Plain and simple. May be lot of democrat thinking same as me now.

Betsy, Chicago   March 17th, 2008 7:21 pm ET

the quotes ( from my post above ) are from Mark Shield's blog....

kelly WI   March 17th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

The dems in the legislature all voted for it. Then the gov signed it.

Vote Responsibly08   March 17th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

Whats fair is fair..Hillary should get the delegates due her.
The rules, no compaigning, neither campaigned/// Hillary won

If it would have been the other way around we surely would not even be discussing this...

Don, San Francisco   March 17th, 2008 7:20 pm ET

In a word: Good.

A&A   March 17th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

too bad for the people saying that they didn't vote because it was not going to count...THE DNC should honor the time and initiative of its members in Florida that voted anyhow...IN RECORD NUMBERS...too bad for Obama...the original vote should stand

Hillary 08

GirlTexas   March 17th, 2008 7:19 pm ET

FLORIDA....YOU MADE YOUR BED, NOW LIE IN IT........AND PLEASE JUST STOP BREAKING THE RULES TO THE GAME!!!!!!

Kathy   March 17th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

They voted fairly. Let the votes count as is. Next time the Democrats should let all of the democrats across the nation understand what would happen. No half votes or complaints about campaigning or people not voting because they thought it wouldn't count.
COUNT the votes and seat all of the delegates. That is fair.

Grif   March 17th, 2008 7:16 pm ET

I guess you're doomed.... Why say more ....

I guess you are intent in getting it wrong!!!! Once Again

Recession ....? Let me know again in another 15yrs.

Jumping out of Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martin in PA   March 17th, 2008 7:14 pm ET

Whether or not you agree with the original DNC "punishment", the rules were made, they were known to the states ahead of time, they were signed off on by all candidates.

Rules are rules. No changing in the middle of the game. Sorry, Hillary, but your "rules of convenience " (your convenience that is) CAN'T HAPPEN.

Cj From Seattle   March 17th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

One word. GOOD.

Hank in PA   March 17th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

I am canceling my trip to Florida. No reason to go to a state that cannot do any better than this. Democratic Floridians should be absolutely FURIOUS about this.

Florida, get it together.

Ron R   March 17th, 2008 7:11 pm ET

Good........rules are rules. Hillary is the one who claimed months ago that the Florida contest "didnt count". So now we go back to square 1 which is the way it should be.

Dave   March 17th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

I find it baffling that people are projecting their anger about Florida (and Michigan for that matter) onto Barack Obama, as if he were responsible. Responsibility for that can be placed on the State governments or the DNC, but certainly not him.

He merely wants the rules to not be changed after the game has started. Who could possibly argue otherwise with a straight face?

Tehran   March 17th, 2008 7:10 pm ET

Ok Obama understood the rules and didnt waste money, but Hilary want change the rules and wasted money. Who ready from day one to run a country again?

TC - South Beach   March 17th, 2008 7:09 pm ET

It is funny to see how Florida Democrats are threatening to go and vote for Republican because they got their feelings hurt as if all of a sudden they are for the rich. Even though the Florida Governor and legislature is Republican ran and they did this, knowing what was going to happen!

Grow up!

You should be more upset with your own State Republican office and unite, to not only elect a Democratic President, but a Democratic Governor and legislature as well!

Vicky Avare   March 17th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

No Redo?? Our inept election system leaves much to be desired!
Obamas camp must be celebrating Now the sure winner in Florida ,
Sen., Clinton, won't catch up! Obama might win by hook or crook!
Mc Cain gets my vote unless Hillary is on the ticket! Will Obama win by default! Who decided NO Do Over so I can vote them out!
My vote was stolen. Irate concerned citizen from Florida . Vicky

barry   March 17th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

my guess is we have have obama as president and a new chairman of the dnc come november.. howard dean will be on the unemployment line

senor lobo   March 17th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

Are Obama and his cronies on the Democratic National Committee afraid that he can't win the nomination unless Florida voters are excluded? If Barack Obama and Howard Dean are going to nullify my vote in the Florida primary then don't count on me in the November election. If he steals the nomination by shutting out Florida democrats, he'll have to win the electoral college without us as well.

Manuel TX   March 17th, 2008 7:08 pm ET

If Obama wins the nomination, and without Florida that looks likely, then he's just lost the general election.

The voters in Florida are not going to forget this.

:)

Nathan Turner   March 17th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

That was July 22 of last year. Sorry

M. S. Indiana   March 17th, 2008 7:07 pm ET

McCain won, was that not the point from, a FL point of view ??

Jay   March 17th, 2008 7:06 pm ET

""If my vote is not good enough now, why should it be any good in November?""

That's a question best asked of your governor and your state legislature.

Relax Joe   March 17th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

DEMOCRATS WILL LOSE FLORIDA IN 2008 GENERAL ELECTION, IN A LANDSLIDE.

Nathan Turner   March 17th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

Anyone hear about proof coming out that Obama was indeed at one of the anti-America anti-white sermons July 22 of this year? I'm not sure if CNN will air it since they are pro Obama .

Scott Dodgson   March 17th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

This is going to be a true measure of Hilary's sense of fairness and acceptance of rules. Let's see if she has the character to accept the results. I doubt it.

Andy   March 17th, 2008 7:05 pm ET

for those that are fooled by Barrack Obama, you and your unborn children will be sorry in the coming years, I promise, remember this

Jim B   March 17th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

If Florida is off the table, Obama is going to win. There is no way for Clinton to catch up. Clinton needs to resign for the good of the party. Even with Obama numbers going in the tank because of the recent sleaze campaign, he still has more favorable ratings than Clinton. She cannot win. The only thing McCain has against Obama is his paster. With the economy in meltdown, there is no way that any fool would vote for the Rebugs.

Justin from West Haven, CT   March 17th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

Sucks for Clinton. HAHA

Wayne   March 17th, 2008 7:04 pm ET

Finally Democrats grow a spine. EVERYONE knew the rules AND the penalties. Do not break the rules if you are not prepared to face the penalty. They were counting on a spineless DNC. Those days are over. You broke the rule and thats that. Changing the rules now would be just rediculous. Stick to the rules and see how this pans out. That goes for you too MI. Actually..they should just acknowledge that though Hillary is close..SHE LOST.

OBAMA 08

Eric   March 17th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

This is a disgrace! Florida must have a re-vote. If they don't, I encourage all Democrats to vote Republican to teach the DNC a lesson. They knew that by penalizing the state, they were acknowledging that they would ignore millions of voters. The people of the DNC should be removed! I'm from Pennsylvania and will vote Republican if Florida doesn't get a chance to vote.

StephanTX.   March 17th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Split them down the middle. Another headache behind us, eat that BILLARY!! ;0)

Obama 08"

doug   March 17th, 2008 7:03 pm ET

Looks like it's over in Texas too. Looks like results will stand, ouch.

Gavin   March 17th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

That makes NO sense; what Daschle is saying. In other words; why even have a vote. What Tom really wants is Barack to win.

HILLARY WON FLORIDA IN A LANDSLIDE and should be awarded the delegate !

Renee   March 17th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

Florida doesnt have loose pieces, hanging chads just a messed up
voting process. I voted in Florida and my ballot did not have the candidates names on it. My husband's ballot did have the names but was told by the people working not to vote for a candidate because it would not count, just vote for or against an amendment that was on the table. This is sad, because if they are going to count the ballots then they really do not have a true representation. This is once again an ongoing saga with Florida, one mess after another.

Lawrence   March 17th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Its funny how people on here are clamoring for Florida to count even though they broke the rules. You break the rules, you get punished. It is that simple. When a child misbehaves in school to the point of severe punishment, the punishment is handed down. Should we bend the rules to keep kids from being punished? NO! Why should we do the same at the adult level? WE shouldn't.

Florida? Face up to the fact that your delegates do not count and if they do, that will all but hurt the party for quite sometime.

Justin   March 17th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Florida made the right decision. No re-vote! Let's hope Michigan does the same thing.

Judith   March 17th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

Good, it's about time the rules are followed.... If the Fla vote were to count it would be totally unfair, Obama supporters many of which do not vote because they knew the rules and followed them, so even the votes would not show a clear winner in the state.... Let Hillary cry a river, the vote was against the rules that they themself voted for then broke the rules.... She had name reconigtion , Obama was a new face on the block....

If Hillary lost the vote in Fla. she would be the first one yelling " they broke the rules, so it don't count ".... to bad Billary ...THEY DON'T COUNT, THEY DID BREAK THE RULES....

I am so tired of everyone bending to Queen Hillary.... We already have a King Goroge in the White House.... Now lets ALL JUST ELECT A PRESIDENT TO THE USA..... TIME TO OVER THROW THE KINGS AND QUEENS....IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE......OBAMA 08

Mark R. / Bonn, Northhein-Westfalia, Germany   March 17th, 2008 7:01 pm ET

What a nice piece of doo-doo we have here.

The state parties in both Florida and Michigan decide to spit at their own parties and break the rules, knowing full well that they would be penalized for their actions.

In an age where every politician loves to talk about accountability, then it's time to put the butter with the fish, here!!

Those idiots in both of those states made a stupid mistake and must pay the penalty. That simple. Stop the bellyaching about "democracy" and "the peoples' voice must be heard" and start thinking about "responsibility" and "honesty" and "playing by the rules".

God, this is just disgusting. Why the hell have rules when any Tom, Dick and Harry can break them? Why the hell have teachers and ministers try to instill ethics in our young people when all they have to do is turn on the TV or go online and see this travesty?

If we want to have presidential elections (and re-elections) that will soon take up 3 out of every 4 years, then just stay on this road. Watch out: the primaries for 2012 will start in the summer of 2009 this time!!! Florida is just dying to get ahead of Iowa.

Disgusting, just disgusting.

If democrats in FLA and MI are pissed off, then they should be pissed off at the state officials who made this stupid decision and then they should fire those individuals!

cathy   March 17th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

What's the point of seating the delegates if it is done in a way that does not alter the outcome?

George from Mineapolis   March 17th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

GOOD... Now I hope these people can accept their punishment and SHUT UP...

The delegates will be seated.... AFTER THE NOMINEE HAS BEEN CHOSEN.

Dolores   March 17th, 2008 7:00 pm ET

So: "he Illinois senator would like to see Florida’s delegates counted in a way that would not alter the overall outcome heading into the party’s convention"

and, you people still think this is the candidate of change?

I hope none of you are disappointed when he turns our to be another George w. Bush.

Now the media is being a little hard on him and he always has an excuse.

You know the Florida votes may not end up counting now but they will sure be counted come the general election.

If my vote is not good enough now, why should it be any good in November?

mary   March 17th, 2008 6:59 pm ET

CNN I dare you to publish this comment.

I am ashamed of you,. Why is Wolf Bulitzer running pastor Wright's select portions of his sermons over and over and over and over. You would think CNN was for Hillary. I used to watch CNN,but not any more.
Talk about the real issue the ECONOMY. America if going under and CNN is helping out. Just like Rush asked all republicans to vote for Hillary. his reasoning, McCAIN can beat Hillary. Let the american people have their say for once.

Obama Supporter   March 17th, 2008 6:58 pm ET

Good Job Dems...

Tim   March 17th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

Good, another avenue to cheat by the Billary campaign is shut down Now it truly will be impossible to catch him on delegates, states or # of votes cast.

So now all she has is what there should be....she has to win the rest of the states by 67% or better to ctach him.
Game...set...match Obama.

Dan   March 17th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

God, Florida is a dysfunctional state. First you arrogantly break the rules and cut in line. You knew the consequences of doing that. Everybody did. Now you want to change the rules.

Blame your own friggin' politicians for screwing you. It's not anybody else's problem but your own. Don't even think of blaming Obama for your ineptitude.

Your state is the laughing stock of the country.

Sonja   March 17th, 2008 6:57 pm ET

I am not only a resident of Florida,I am a citizen of the United States.Every citizen who votes has the right to have their vote counted .We the people,the residents of Florida ,did not make the decission to move the primary up.The Florida Governor did.The thousands of people who stood in line and exercised their constitutional right to vote should not be punished for the Governors mistakes.If he was to go out and rob a bank,would it be fair to punish every resident of the state?I didn't think so,and for our vote not to be counted is not fair.

Jim in FL   March 17th, 2008 6:55 pm ET

The Republicans in Florida at least had HALF a brain, and decided to seat HALF the normal delegation prior to the first primary vote. If the Democrats are "disenfranchised", then I guess the Republicans are HALF disenfranshised .... NOT !! Live by the rules Democrats. You blew it by HALF !!

Sarah, Kansas City, MO   March 17th, 2008 6:53 pm ET

Oh yes, I forgot, Florida democratic voters allowed the republican party in their state to railroad them. They should not blame Obama, the party or even Hillary. It was the republicans.

mary   March 17th, 2008 6:52 pm ET

Good call,,, bye, bye Billary

horace from The Golden State   March 17th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

Is common sense nonexistent in clinton supporters. You should all go to law school and also take a 100 question test on common sense. Your comments are really appalling.

RJB2   March 17th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

This is a shame for all the voters
But The Florida Government did this to themselves
Rules are Rules...They are not good rules...
AND THEY BROKE THEM
And they knew what the outcome would be if they did

Florida voters should kick out all the idiots who made this mess

Well...there is always 2012...if they do not screw that one up too

Sarah, Kansas City, MO   March 17th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

Split the delegates 50-50. It is only fair. Hillary may have won but Obama never campaigned there so the public did not have the opportunity to get to know him. We all know Hillary.

Go Obama!

Travis-NC   March 17th, 2008 6:51 pm ET

Split the delgates or don't count them at all. Florida knew the rules. Plenty of democrats didn't vote, because they knew the rules. If you wanna talk about losing Florida in November, then that's just ignorance. It's generally a red state anyway. Get the heck over it and unite.

La Petite Sorciere   March 17th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

Hillary can not for now steal this election...........yaaaaaaaaaaaaahooo

Willie   March 17th, 2008 6:49 pm ET

Well, if Obama is the nominee, I would like to be the first to say congratulations to McCain on a landslide victory. By the way, has anyone remembered that Presidents have spiritual advisors and if Obama was to win the nomination, his spiritual advisor would have been an anti-american pastor.

Craig a Democrat in Texas for Obama   March 17th, 2008 6:48 pm ET

Let us not forget that it is Florida whose local government broke the rules by pushing up primaries. They got what they deserved. Let us move on cause this is just tearing my Party apart. Oh yea dont forget about the CNN poll that shows 52% of registered Democrats prefer Obama instead of Hillbilly

doug   March 17th, 2008 6:46 pm ET

Florida got what Florida elected, nothing, just what thier govenor wanted them to have.

Arkansas Undertaker   March 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I agree with the decision. Florida knew the consequences.

They didnt follow the rules so TUFF!!!!!!! DEAL WITH IT.

DEMOCRATES COULDNT WIN FLORDIA ANYWAY!

J Norman   March 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

So I guess the Florida Democrat voters, who bear no fault in this and will understandably be ticked off, will go Republican in November. Sad situation and pathetic that the Democrats couldn't resolve it for their constituents.

Alba Bali   March 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I will vote Republican if Obama wins because of Floridas votes taken away, everyone knows Hillary would win florida again so enough with rules argument. If you care about rules why argue about superdelegates voting for Clinton. Let them vote their will if you obama supporters are such rule oriented.

Vote Hillary

Randy   March 17th, 2008 6:44 pm ET

I think you Clintonites are forgetting that Hillary Clinton only won Florida with 50%, with Obama and Edwards splitting the other 50%. With Edwards out, the only logical solution would be to seat the Florida delegates as to not disenfranchise them, but give half to Clinton and half to Obama. Someone needs to propose this 50-50 solution to the DNC.

Voice   March 17th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

It is likely that by the time of convention Obama has more than 2024 delegates and Flordia delegates are no longer relevant. It is time for the superdelegates to step up now!

John, Las Vegas, NV   March 17th, 2008 6:43 pm ET

Well, look at the bright side of things. At least the chad mess with Bush and Gore looks pretty trivial now compared to how the Democrats without any help from the Republicans has made Florida and Michigan both into a total election mess.

tdo   March 17th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

The DNC 's stance on this doesn't matter as much as which candidate is seen as not wanting these votes to count. And that candidate won't be popular with these 2 states in november.

They should count the vote already taken and move on and obama should ask that it be done that way. Otherwise he will not win these states if nominated in the GE.

Ivory Tickler   March 17th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

That this was even a question or issue is frightening. A rule was proposed and voted on by the people of Florida and they chose not to have a seat at the DNC this year. Same holds true for Michigan. So why woul;d this even come into question regarding whether Florida be seated or not?

Ohhhh.... the Clintons are involved? Well now, that makes a little more sense doesn't it.

HENNA JAN   March 17th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

mr obama is doing whats is precher ask.

Slap Stick, FLORIDA   March 17th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

My Goodness, We have Snub Heads in Florida as leaders. Just split the delegates. Hillary should be happy about this because even though she won Texas, she still ended up with less delegates. Same thing could happen to her in Florida now that more people are watching Obama.

Mr. B.   March 17th, 2008 6:42 pm ET

It is my understanding Michigan is going to have another vote.

Are they smarter than Florida ?

I guess that is why you go to Florida....to retire !

Better luck next time.

La Petite Sorciere   March 17th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

The Billary Clinton Camp has already started law suits... but she does not say in the affidavit, that she (in the frist place) agreed to not having the votes counted...
again, she will flip flop hoping someone will take her side......... later she will say those votes dont count anyway, once it is shown that she agreed to this whole thing...........
SHame on you Hillary

Merrin   March 17th, 2008 6:41 pm ET

THis is not an accident. Nothing at this political level is.
I say no more.

Help Yourselves   March 17th, 2008 6:40 pm ET

Poor Florida, they should have started voting for 2008 right after the 2004 election. Here it is 2008, and they still don't have their act together.

Well, we'll leave the lights on for you in November. There's some cake and milk in the fridge.

Eileen   March 17th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

This is not Democratic! All votes should be counted just like mail in votes do! Neither candidate campained there so count them on the date their primary was suppose to take place. What difference does it make? If FL is not counted Obama can count me out too!

James Wells   March 17th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

Here is what I hear concering the pastor of Sen.OBAMA.There is a lot of ".I found something to stop Him with".Please tell me why is what my pastor say "other than the word of GOD",What I believe or what I agree with! SEN.OBOMA is trying to RISE ABOVE SOMETHING, but the news is trying to hold HIM there " LET HIM GO"

kevin from alaska   March 17th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

If they seat delegates for primaries that "didn't count" they will disenfranchise far more voters than otherwise.

Mr. B.   March 17th, 2008 6:39 pm ET

I'm sure the Clintons will think of some way to manipulate this one !

Honesty......Integrity...we are talking about the Clintons folks !

Tracey   March 17th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

The election should stand as the people have already voted.

Betsy, Chicago   March 17th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

In 2004 when Michigan threatened to "go outside the primary window" Terry McAuliffe told U.S. Senator Carl Levin, "If I allow you to do that,the whole system collapses,we will have chaos". Now, as the chair of Senator Clinton's campaign he forgets all that. Now he thiks it's" fair ".

Paul   March 17th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

Does anyone honestly think Florida would vote for a Democrat in the national election? Don Schula could win 14 straight caucuses and they'd still elect the Republican. If they can figure out how to count the results, that is.

Chris   March 17th, 2008 6:38 pm ET

What's with you Florida? You used to be cool. Pre 2000's. Now...Blech.

Dj   March 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

Great. I'm glad we all agree. A re-do would be the dumbest thing in the world. Face it, Florida and Michigan broke the DNC rules. They knew the penalty for doing so. We should not have to stand and count their votes.

Dave   March 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

How many elections can Florida f up??!!

Here's what happens:

Florida Republican puppet/governor Charlie Crist falls in with the party to help Hillary get elected.

The entire Republican base that has been supporting Hillary votes for McCain in the general.

Four more years of the last THIRTY YEARS.

Wise up people.

Frank, San Diego   March 17th, 2008 6:37 pm ET

So let me get the Obamanistas' argument straight.

In the future, all Republicans have to do to disenfranchise Democrats is get control of a state's legislature and then force a primary on that state's Democrats that violates DNC rules.

Why are you guys doing the work of Florida Republican's for them?

Hillary Just Stole Florida   March 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Is anyone surprised that the Hillary supporter wants to keep the status quo? The apple does not fall far from the tree. If the leader cheats, her followers will cheat.

Florida's "primary election" speaks volumes as to why Hillary should not be our next president. She cheats–end of story.

Obama 08

Bridget   March 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

Seat the delegates!!!!PLEASE!!!

Realistic   March 17th, 2008 6:36 pm ET

This is the worst case for Hillary - Michigan gets a do-over while Florida goes nowhere. Obama will do great in Michigan.

Now hear the Mad Old Feminists and Geezers With Wheezers rage in vain.

NEVEROBAMA   March 17th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

I hope the results are allowed asis. And guess what Obama supporters your guy did campaign there when they knew they were not supposed too. I hope Hillary gets her share of Delegates in Florida and it will help her win the nomimation.

GO HILLARY!!
GO HILLARY!!

The one thing Obama should not want to do is piss off a bunch of Floridians. Remeber they are HAVE BEEN THE deciding state for the Presidency!

GO HILLARY!!
GO HILLARY!!

Jim - Tucson   March 17th, 2008 6:35 pm ET

Surprise! There are some politicians who understand what RULES are about.

Cy   March 17th, 2008 6:34 pm ET

Dennis – your parents aren't alone. That's the same reason why I didn't vote...

Britt, VA   March 17th, 2008 6:33 pm ET

Its about time...they broke the rules and thats that. Barack never had a fair chance in FL. Im glad the democratic party is finally starting to make sense.

EBC   March 17th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

Ya' think? I mean geez what took them so long to figure this out?

Florida SHOULD NOT BE seated. It was as simple than that AND it is still as simple as that. They knew the rules, so now they have to deal with the consequences.

NO candidate should get any delegates!!

bummed in FL   March 17th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

I didn't know when I woke up this morning that I was living in a facist state. WOW.

am i being disenfranchised   March 17th, 2008 6:32 pm ET

is cnn cherry-picking comments here that are unfavorable to obama?
there is no profanity or mis-spelled words in my posts, yet they are not here.

talk about bias for obama!
this is the same reason we are just learning about obama.
Media insists in rocking him in a cradle and staying quiet while obama sleeps?

Jude   March 17th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Stop dreaming Floridians...basically your votes won't cout because you violated the rules, there is no re-vote so that's that!!!!Basically, the fairest thing is to split the delegates 50-50.

Kimberly   March 17th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Good, count the votes!!! No one campaigned in Florida EXCEPT Obama on CNN... give Hillary her delegates!

Chuck   March 17th, 2008 6:31 pm ET

Wake Up!

I could care less who ends up being the nominee at this point. Face it the party line is the party line. We have 3 branches of government, not one.

People are being denied the right to voice their opinions IN AMERICA!!!!

The right to vote is bigger than either of these candidates.

Dave   March 17th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Time for Hillary to accept the Dodd solution. Everyone knows and the media is increasingly reporting that she could care less about MI or FL voters. She's interested in the supers. The DNC knows that and, therefore, she has no negotiating position here. 50/50 is the best she can do and is an enormous gift.

EBC   March 17th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

Thank you Jesus, I was getting sooooooo sick of all that nonsense going on down there. I'm glad that chapter is closed.

Let's move on...

JerryZ   March 17th, 2008 6:30 pm ET

That pretty much killed Hillary from getting the popular vote and the pledge delegates.

Now she needs to have the super delegates override the people's vote. I like to take some bet's that won't happen. She'll have to wait till 2016. Shoot!!!!

jody   March 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

Good! It is unfortunate for the voters but the rules were broken. See what happens in Michigan being that Clinton promised their Gov a Clinton Cabinet Seat. Geeeezzzzzzz! Bet something gets worked out in Michigan.

Michael   March 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

I hve a solution, Give Hillary 106 delegates and give Obama 104 delegates. This way the people votes count, but it does not have a negative effect on the election.

Cy   March 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

To all you out there who believe the election in Florida should count:

Could you please tell me why I should waste my precious spare-time on an election called a 'beauty-contest' by CNN and was clearly stated to be void? No, you can't?

That only leaves 2 options: A second election (which obviously ain't gonna happen) or sticking to the rules BOTH (Obama AND Clinton) agreed on.

Bacusla   March 17th, 2008 6:28 pm ET

NO NEW PRIMARIES – NO DELEGATES AWARDED TO THE CANDIDATES – everyone returns to the drawing board.

law prof   March 17th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

I agree with Block - I too defended the Clintons throughout the 1990s too and I'm sick of them . . . THEY DON'T THINK THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES . . . Dems, let get ourselves a candidate with integrity!

Alba Bali   March 17th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Hillary should get the votes of Florida democrats. She did not campaign there either and most analysts agree that she would likely win again. VOTE HILLARY 2008.

Dennis   March 17th, 2008 6:27 pm ET

Sorry, Dennis. But my parents are also both in Florida and are not lifelong Dems- but will likely vote that way this year.

Anna, Florida   March 17th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

Good !!! Florida Democrats lets support McCain in '08 !!!!
He is a moderate and war veteran.

Anna,
Florida Democrats for McCain '08

Jim   March 17th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

Sounds like the first step for Hillary finding a way to steal the discredited delegates. She only plays by the rules when it suits her. This way she can claim victory in a no contest election and take the reward. Same old politics. This is why we can not fix the problems in this nation.

r   March 17th, 2008 6:26 pm ET

they should just split all the delegates or florida and give half to both.

CHICANO ART, ARIZONA   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

THIS IS THE BEST STORY CNN CAN PRODUCE. ONE SENCTENCE.

BG - Texas   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Thank you Florida for giving John McClain your vote of confidence. A national Hero who truly believes that we did not deserve 9/11 and epitomizes "God Bless America".

Whatever   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Peter Paul must not have raised a nationwide uproar like Pastor Wright did.

doc   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

You said leve a coment, "Why" you only post for "King" Obama.

Janet   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

The Democratic Committee didn't move the primary up, the REPUBLICANS did and the Democratic Committee had to go along with it. That's why I don't understand why the Democrats are being penalized for it. Why did the republican votes count?

peeet25   March 17th, 2008 6:25 pm ET

Hillary, it's time to quit, you are now in the process of destroying the Democratic Party

Babs   March 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

Hey FL. Vote that GOV. out
DNC VOTE DEAN out
Superdelegates Vote your Heart and soul and don't give into pressure from your supporters. Do what is right for America.
Democrates Rule!

Jim D Palatine   March 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

How typical to blame Obama, when it was someone else who made the decision to violate the rules even after being warned. Interesting, isn't this the same group that had the problem with the chats?

mickey   March 17th, 2008 6:24 pm ET

Rev. Wright delivered the best history lesson ever. Jeremiah Wright for PRESIDENT!

p   March 17th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

The vote should definitely stand as counted.

Dennis   March 17th, 2008 6:23 pm ET

My parents, both Democrats didn't vote because they were told the primary wouldn't count. If they can't have a redo then forget the original contest .... it doesn't represent a real test.

Brent, CA   March 17th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Janet: Yes! Me too.

Walter   March 17th, 2008 6:22 pm ET

Good, Florida wanted attention by moving its primaries up, and now they got the attention they wanted let's move on.

Grif   March 17th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

Comments you don't need!!! Miracles would be better...

P. Vivaldi   March 17th, 2008 6:21 pm ET

. . . .Florida, why would you move your primary up if you knew that the
delegates would not be seated according to the rules? You have had
one screwed up election and eight Bush years later to get your act together. And don't blame Senator Obama. I will bet the farm that if you
pull the curtain back, there stands Hillary Clinton shouting, "I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ".

Obama 08.

CJ from Kansas City   March 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

I think this is the right thing that should have been done a long time ago, rather than dragging it on for weeks and leaving the poor residents of Florida in limbo. The Florida Democratic Leaders knew what they were getting themselves into by trying to reschedule their primary, and now they should have to pay for their own doing. I feel sorry for the democrats of Florida for what they had to go through and hopefully they will learn to elect people who hold their interest at heart to lead their State's Democratic Party, and not people who will break the rules and expect the whole country to bend over backwards for them. Hopefully Michigan will learn from this as well.

Oh, and vote Obama '08!

person   March 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

I think the Michigan and Florida state representatives and governor are responsible for this mess. Can anyone clarify why there was even voting going on when the DNC said it was unlawful? I don't think Michigan should have had just Hillary Clinton on the ballot. How can they only hold a primary with one person on the ballot when Edwards and Obama were also viable candidates? That is ludicrous.

Janet   March 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Anyone having a problem posting. I've submitted 3 and they are not on here.

Doom.   March 17th, 2008 6:20 pm ET

Can we expel Florida from the US? They obviously can't figure out how to vote.

Barry   March 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Sorry "Debra" but the "whole process is meaningless" if the rules are ignored.

Shed Some Light   March 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

Finally, some sense.

Hillary thought she'd steal this nomination....

Now let's talk about PeterFPaul?

ceez   March 17th, 2008 6:19 pm ET

I just think it's ridiculous for Hilary to all of a sudden think that the votes should count... I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.. Frankly it doesn't make sense that they would count since the knew the rules and decided to go along with it anyway... Additionally, Florida & Michigan voters should be getting upset with their elected officials, not the DNC, Obama or anyone else.. They need to take a serious look at their govt. and reward them by electing someone who has their best interest at heart. Not their own.

RH   March 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Billy Sutton. There goes Obama's better judgement card!

Arc   March 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

I'm with Darryl.

Rick   March 17th, 2008 6:18 pm ET

I don't understand the problem with Mich. and Flor. They broke the rules. Now they want the votes to count. Why have any state spend more money. Seat both states but divide the delegates evenly between the 2 candidates and be done. Why isn't this talked about?

Brenda   March 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

It would surprise everybody to know that the majority of voters in Florida ( I am one) did not want a re-vote!!!

A majority of us stayed home because of the simple fact that we knew our votes wouldn't count.
I believe that the delegates should not be seated and the people of Florida should then take up this mess with our elected officials!!!!!

Bob   March 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

I wish just one Hillary supporter would have the temerity to say out loud what they really express in these whining comments: that when they don't like the rules (that they agreed to) they shouldn't have to play by them. Talk about crybabies.

Debra   March 17th, 2008 6:17 pm ET

The state can not afford to rehold the election. Obama is stealing the election because not everyones vote will be counted and he seems to be the only one with an unlimited supply of money from people waiting to ask favors of him and throw him money. That makes this whole processs meaningless unless the delegates from Florida are seated. Clinton has been robbed. She would be in the lead if they had been seated. He was the one dragging his feet saying he wanted a new election. His rep last week was smirking when she said it had to be a new election- didn't care tht all those voices wouldn't count. Win at any price to the people of Florida. How can I ever support Obama when he is the cause of this. If every vote is not counted then why bother to have an election. It's all a farce. Obama is the worst kind of politician for doing this.

John   March 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Hillary didn'y campaign so what she was there raising money, what else is that but campaigning.
just divide the delegates 50:50 and have done with it.

The DNC are crazy to allow hillary to continue when she faces being served with a subpeana and possibly five years for election fraud in New York etc. to attend Court sept 7th this year in California Apellant court district 7.

Huston Obama has lift off.

Barry   March 17th, 2008 6:16 pm ET

Will Hillary incite a riot so as to insure that Obama cannot recover Fl in the general? I'm betting YES!

Karen-Phoenix   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

Florida and Michigan knew the rules!! Matter of fact, they were given 30 days to change their minds. Rules are rules. The votes should not count and they can try again in four years. We learn NOT to break rules in preschool!!!! What's wrong with these people?

Lou   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

The two camps seem to be reading this statement two different ways.
No new vote doesn't mean she will get the first vote's delegates. Everyone has already decided that issue. It means they now have to broker a deal like splitting them down the middle or not seating them at all.

Wayne   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

You either don't count them (for breaking the rules) or just split the delegates and votes 50/50.Period and move on!

Steve herrick   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

This is truly Unfortunate. Due to the politics as usual once again the American public get it handed to them by there elected officials. Well I hope they kick the bums out of office when their term expires

Obama / Edwards 08

JT   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

Florida knew the consequences.

Chris   March 17th, 2008 6:15 pm ET

They don't need another vote. The first vote had all three major candidates onit, and none of them campaign in FL, making it a perfectly legitimate and fair race.

Count them now!!!!!

JJG   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

The DNC will keep it equal, I trust that they will make the right decision. I am sure they will look at Hillary and Obama history on delagating the votes correctly.. I believe the DNC is not going to let either party loose out on the right amount of delegates.

broadwayjack   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

This is way Barack rolls... calm, steady, reflective, direct.

This is the temperament and the judgment that can answer a phone of any color.

This is the intellect and the inspiration we need.

Chris   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

How in the world is this Obama's fault?
You Hillary supporters are so afraid of losing, you're delusional. If you want to blame somebody, blame the Republican State leadership.

Allison Marie   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

This is not a game. The careless way I hear Howard Dean speak in regards to Florida!

If he really represents the Democratic party he is certainly not looking like a leader at all, he sounds like a spoiled school boy.

What's happening in Florida is very serious, and will not work out for OUR party in a general election and I hope the superdelegates will pay attention to this.

Countless in Florida

Towhappy   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

Well the DNC already stated they WILL NOT seat the deligates as is so only thing left to do is split 50/50 or no count at all for Florida anyways so now can we please get to the issues and move on.

Word to the wise, if you are truly a democrat, might as well vote him in now and swollow the innevitable because the Clintons' chance just went down the Florida swamp!

OBAMA 08!

TEH   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

Perhaps the Clintons can try to get some deligates from Kabul and Baghdad to close the gap?

Carly   March 17th, 2008 6:14 pm ET

Go Barack!

Ken   March 17th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

If they are not going to revote the Primary in Florida,they need to count the votes as they are,It will be a huge mistake to not count the people of Florida,They had no controll over decisions made by the Republicans.The Democratic party as a whole will suffer,if they are not recognized.

Hillary for President!

RH   March 17th, 2008 6:13 pm ET

Don't forget Pastor Wright and Obama's judgement in making him a leading role in his campaign!

Douglas, Columbus, Ga.   March 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

Democrats...Bloggers...MORONS

Robert B   March 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

Why do people keep saying Obama is not being fair? He has nothing to do with this! He didn't set the rules, he obeyed them. He wasn't allowed to campaign there and didn't. You can't expect an entire state to vote based on media coverage!

I'm glad it's over. I hope the people of Florida understand that it's neither candidate or the DNC that did this to them, it's their state leaders. I urge them to make sure this doesn't ever happen again.

deb in az   March 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

barrack ombama was on the ballot in florida and their votes should count........neither one of them campaigned in either state.........michigan should have a redo...........because barrack obama wasnt on the ballot and let it be done........the american voters had nothing to do with this business with the dnc.........punish the governer of florida mr dean not the voters........

Praetorian, Fort Myers   March 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

The DNC should not have penalized Florida Democrats in the first place! This was an issue entirely perpetrated by the Republican controlled state legislature and the Republican Governor.

Sadly, a lot of conservative minded Democrats won't forget how Mr. Dean and his cohorts handled the situation to the detriment of the DEM candidates in November.

Billy Sutton, Springfield, MO   March 17th, 2008 6:12 pm ET

RH, what more would you like to talk about regarding Rev. Wright. I would love to hear it.

REPinero   March 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

Count FL as it was done! This vote was fair. No campaign from anyone and everyone on the ballot!

Roy   March 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

I agree Ed!!!!!! Just who was it that got those tapes to the news about Pastor Write anyway? First degrade Obama and then take the delegates away from Hillary. Sounds fishy to me!

Jeff   March 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

Good.. The Republicans were responsible for this mess in the first place. Now all the Florida Dems need to do is go to Howard Dean and say "Either seat the delegates, or you give Florida to the Republicans, and if you do, there might as well not be any Democrats on the ballot in the first place".

kay gallist   March 17th, 2008 6:11 pm ET

Bravo!! The first rational news out of Fl since the 2004 election.

Ronald   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Let's see how they resolve the delegates! i still think they should strip all superdelegates from Fl and MI!!!!

Linda   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Once again Florida is making a mockery of the election process! The political leaders of the state knew the rules and chose to make up their own thereby negating the votes of the people. Shame on them! After the 2000 election debacle and the ensuing ruination of the economy...well anyway...

bernd   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

would Hillary be fighting this hard to get illegal vote to count if Obama actually got most of the votes and deligates In Florida? How can she say it was fair when she said she would abide by the rules and the vote shouldn't count and Obama wasn't even on the ballot. She must think this is like Cuba. If you get all the votes you automatically win, even if no one else is on the ballot.

zack,   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Hillary Power greedy, Clintons, we see through you. You want the power because you have Donation outmatching American people interest. Tell those you want to repay to give it up!!

Rosey   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

People you are fighting over a 38 delegate difference. Hillary wouldn't lead the delegate count with 138 delegates. Do you really want McCain? This internal fighting will only benefit him!

fredrick amukonyi   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

Democracy and fairness matters alot. Less see what our DNC will go with. I have faith they will make the right judgement that will not split the party. The fair way will be revoting or forgetting a bout the Florida votes.

Chris Saffadi   March 17th, 2008 6:10 pm ET

This is total nonsense. I have never voted for a Republican but if Florida doesn't have a revote and my vote in the primary didn't count, then John McCain it is. Sorry Democrats, you just lost Florida in the National vote in November. Good luck with the Election. Maybe we'll try again in 4 years.

Kevin,FL   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

i hope the find a solution, because i want my vote to count

a face in the crowd..   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

The reason why this is not going to happen is because the race is over. The politicians, superdelegates, and the GOP know it. Watch which D-candidate becomes quiet and you will know who's going to lose.

block   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Well. I defended the Clintons throughout the 90s. Now, I know why people dislike them so much. They just don't think they have to play by the same rules everyone else plays by. Hillary signed an agreement that the election would not count. She also agreed not to campaign there. And last Sept. talked about how the results would not count. But she held two fundraisers in Fla. during which she gave political speeches right after losing so miserably in S.C.

We have never voted for Republicans before. But the Clinton dynasty needs to be put behind us. The current sub-prime mess goes back to laws signed by the first Clinton. They have become the faces of corporate America, as her earmarks demonstrate. r

p shaffer   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

The question is this. If Barak Obama is so bad at judging the character and intentions of a man he has known for 20 years, how are we to belive that he can judge the nature and intentions of foreign political leaders such as the ones he want to go visit in Iran and North Korea?

If in fact he did not know this man's nature and comments, which I find hard to believe, then we should be truly concerned about his ability to lead this nation. If in fact he did know, which his campaign indicates, and did nothing, then he is a liar.

Either way,,he is not our next president. And I am a Democrat. If he gets the nomination, I will vote for McCain.

Jay   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Let the Florida votes and delegates stand and be seated. Hillary won by over 300,000 votes. So why do the Obamabots want a 50/50 split.? The voters chose Hillary over Obama by a huge margin. If the vote and delegates are not counted, Florida will vote McCain in the general.
Since they will not have a do over, I am sure they will get their voices, votes and delegates heard and counted.

Hillary 08

Lawrence   March 17th, 2008 6:09 pm ET

Since they have decided not to hold a new primary, then their delegates should not be seated at the convention. It is a shame that Florida decided to do this and as such, the state party themselves disenfrancised many many voters.

Billy Sutton, Springfield, MO   March 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Look, because the state broke the rules, if they are not going to redo the primary. Then they should not be seated. The punishment has to stand or they and others will continually break the rules knowing that they can get out of it later. The people of Florida will be able to have their voices heard in November.

4 Obama NC   March 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

I feel bad that the people of FL voices will not be heard, but I am glad that the rules are being followed. This race is spinning out of control and if a handle does not take place we might is well let Mccain in now.

RJ   March 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Don't hold your breath, Hillary will come up with another twist...mark my words....She's like a Spoiled Brat

loren   March 17th, 2008 6:08 pm ET

Things like this are causing me to sway away from the democratic party this year. I am independent and have major issues with states delegates not counting. Good job DNC...turn off those independents like myself.

Women are inherently unfair   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Don't seat 'em. They can be seated after the nominee is selected on the 1st ballot. If you call otherwise, you do not believe in fair play. That is not the basis of how you play ball in the US, even if you are a women, you must have at least watched some ball games, right? Come on already.

Jersey_Blues   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Hillary Go home.

Roy   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

The Republican Gov. bent the rules in the first place by moveing the primary date up. The DNC should have interveened then! To Bad FL! At least you made your voice herd!

RH   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

How about if there was a poll run in Florida to see if the citizens of Florida would like to revote. If they win the vote, then we should do everything we can to let them revote.

Let's talk more about Pastor Wright!

Hillary '08

mary   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

One more victory for McCain, disenfranchise Florida votes and he will win Florida in the general election without a doubt. No doubt a republican plan.

mattD   March 17th, 2008 6:07 pm ET

Am I seeing things or is that another biased headline news just published by CNN favoring Obama and his lead in the polls. We all know those polls are misleading and articles like that do not deserve to be headliners. In fact, Hillary is actually ahead in the Ramussen polls today by 6-points, how come CNN didn't make that headline news? Shame on you CNN, we are so sick and tired of your unfairness to Hillary. Enough is enough.

HILLARY 08

Janet   March 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

That's not fair to the Florida voters. They should be seated BECAUSE.... there were other issues on the ballot beside Obama/Clinton, so Florida voters did go and vote that day. I keep hearing people say they didn't vote because it didn't count, well, did they not want to vote on the other issues on the ballot? That too bad if they didn't vote, their loss. But the people who took the time out of their day, should be counted. Otherwise we are the United State of America of 48 states, great way to stay United. If Obama is all the man he says he is, and wants everyone to be UNITED, then he would let the votes count. But apparently, Obama only wanted them to count if it is in his favor.

Harvey in Va   March 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Ok no second vote..let the frist one stand and divide the delgates and get on with Michigan

JB   March 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

This is fine so long as they don't declare a winner there.

We can only hope that the voters were not tricked by being told thier vote wouldn't count in advance, and then later learn that the rules were changed in order to declare a winner.

Many people did not bother to go the polls. The states turn out was very low compared to other states because of the news that their vote wouldn't count.

Mark Vink   March 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

More fuzzy speeches and rhetoric.

Francie   March 17th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

Florida should be counted. Enough said!

no obama   March 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Shame on the democratic party. These are the tricks of a dictatorship in a third world country.

Ohiobo   March 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

They already voted and their votes should count. If DNC should exclude Florida dalegates from the convention, that will be another sure way of having President Maccain come January, 2009.

Janice   March 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

It doesn't seem fair that Americans in Florida will not have their votes counted. All Floridians should be outraged by this decision. Either let the original vote count or have a recount. This highly close race is making history and Democrats across the country are showing their patriotism by casting their votes. I think the DNC should reconsider & let the original votes casted count as is.

Annamica, OH   March 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Hey guys,

I think Obama supporters are forgetting the fact that the delegates may be seated as is...wait until they start whining.

Jay   March 17th, 2008 6:05 pm ET

Good! Give Hillary her delegates.

Support   March 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

I think therle is no need to do that.

Obvious, Hilary will win automatically soon because of Obama`s pastor.

Why waste money any more?

thomas   March 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

I have an idea to take care of the votes in fl and mi hillary was told not to go there take her delgate away from her ever how many in each state give them to obama why because she broke the rules and rules our rules. thanks thomas

Alice Rea   March 17th, 2008 6:04 pm ET

Seat the delegates.

Hillary didn't campaign either. Obama knows that. Leave the votes as is.

Obama is not being fair. Just seat the delegates and be done with it.

Louis   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Right and Clinton wins on her name alone......it's different when you have to work for your delegates.......Obama bottom up..Clinton top down......more of the same if she wins...but you know we need to be focused on beating the republicans, dems.

Carol   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

And that means there are lawsuit and supreme courts ahead! Danger, Danger, Danger! Democrats!

Cat, Costa Mesa, CA   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

What about the delegates? I take it they won't be sat?

Ed Davis   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

There must be more to this story. What has gone on behind closed doors. Florida elections always seems to look a little suspect to those of us living in other states,as if somebody got away with something. Why is it Florida seems to have more than it's share of drama around nationally important election?

Truth   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

Good seat the delgates equally!!!

Alice Rea   March 17th, 2008 6:02 pm ET

There were over 2 million voters. These people should be seated.

SF KID   March 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

Thats right, NO, No, No. Either split the delegates 50/50 or nothing at all! Blame your state leaders and get rid of em!

Alice Rea   March 17th, 2008 6:01 pm ET

The voters should be seated because both candidates were on the ticket.

atomicprince   March 17th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Same FL Democratic Party, first moved their primary up and went against DNC. Now after all this debate, backs out from revote.

I am so surprised to see RNC spinning Florida democratic party. Well looks like democrats are down the drain anyways.
GOD BLESS AMERICA

mike   March 17th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Good, no it's time to get over it. The people of Florida and Mich. got screwed by their elected officials and the public can get their revenge when it is time for the officials who created this messs come up for re-election.

B   March 17th, 2008 6:00 pm ET

Excellent. So now let's count the delegates as they were elected and get moving.

Hillary '08

Ralph   March 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

split the delegate

Tracey   March 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

The Dems shot themselves in the foot – shall we say.

John Vlok Dommisse   March 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

That's fine, as long as they are not awarded delegates based on the illegal "Primary" that was held in January. They will have to be given an equal number of delegates to represent Obama and Clinton.

John Vlok Dommisse
Tucson, AZ

Anonymous   March 17th, 2008 5:58 pm ET

Unfair.

Cindy in California   March 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

The delegates from Florida still need to be seated at the convention, why not split them 50/50 between the two candidates

Lionel   March 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

If there is not going to be another primary in Florida, then the delegates should not be counted and Mrs.Clinton needs to and should stop saying she won Florida. It's like an NFL team claiming victory for a pre-season game, and losing to the same team during the regular season, when the game really counts. Doesn't make sense to me.

How can we trust her in the white house when she is trying to change the rules, or maybe like her husband, Bill, she just didn't understand the "meaning."

Oliver   March 17th, 2008 5:57 pm ET

This is Great! You should not be allowed to change the rules after the game has started. The Democratic Party, Clinton and Obama knew the rules that were set when the race started. I do not think the rules to began with where that great but the rules that Dean and the party made should be in place.

TEH   March 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Finally the Florida Democratic Party came to their senses. How could anyone change the rules in the middle of the game. Everyone signed on the fact that MI and FL do NOT count. So for the Clinton camp to cry for a change of rules was not right. Anything different will fracture the Demcratic party forever. I hope the superdeligates will end this circus SOON.

Phil, Washington, DC   March 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Wow, now what? They shouldn't broke the rules in the first place. What a mess. I guess Florida will go red once again. Who's in charge down there? What of the votes, the delegates. People are going to feel like their votes don't count. John McCain victory in Florida, just wait and see. You'd think the Dem's learned a lesson in 2000, about organization and getting things right.

almost 40 year old   March 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Well, then Hillary gets the delegates she won there! It is a shame that Florida is the state that can never get it together. However, this time the DNC is at fault. They should have never discounted Florida and Michigan. They ought to know that in November we need them to beat the Republicans!

Wondering   March 17th, 2008 5:56 pm ET

Yay!

The bellowing incompetents don't deserve to have their votes count. They should take this up with the parties at the state level that are responsible for this.

Donna in boca   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Then, if the dems hope to have even ONE vote cast for their nominee this November – I suggest they COUNT the 1.7 million people who voted in January....otherwise, kiss florida good-bye.

Chris   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Split them 50-50 and be done with it. No advantage for either candidate. No extra costs to taxpayers. Then next election, FL voters should vote out of office their governor and their lawmakers for creating this whole mess in the first place SINCE THEY KNEW WHAT THE RULES WERE TO BEGIN WITH. And let this entire fiasco be a lesson for other states to think twice before breaking the rules. As if rules were an option in society!

Simon Roedia   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Hopefully this wouldn't affect the democrats.

Barack Obama 2008!

Mike   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

If the original primary was paid for by the state of Florida, I don't see how the Democratic Party can deny the voters representation. I'm surprised there has not been a lawsuit against the party by voters yet.

MO   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

fair enough

Ron, TX   March 17th, 2008 5:55 pm ET

Justice is served!

Break the rules! Pay the price!

Hillary Clinton agreed to these rules almost exactly one year ago, when she signed the pledge that Michigan and Florida would not count!

NONONONO OBAMA   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Does it count the first primary result?

I think it is fair enough since all candidates names are in the ballot! and no one campaigned there~

2008 Hillary!

Terry   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Thank God!!!! Ok one more thing behind us. Now someone get rid of the Clinton's and I will be thrilled.

Go Hillary!!! Go away....... Go Obama 08

Louis   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Wow, just like that, they let the Republican legislature that moved up the primary against the DNC rule, knowing the delegates would not count, to win.

Annamica, OH   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Thanks for handing the nomination to McCain.

Well the delegates better be seated as the votes are now, or the DNC will have hell to pay.

Henry   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Doesn't Hillary know there is a position open of leutenant gov. in New york?

Teresa   March 17th, 2008 5:54 pm ET

Well alright then. One state down, another to go. Michigan can't afford it. I am not supporting it and Hillary should accept her fate in all of this. It don't pay to cheat.

Obama 2008

No Confetti For Hillary   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Hillary is a piece of work. Remeber all of that confetti after Texas and Ohio. Well I can understand Ohio, but she didn't win Texas.

Hillary, I know you think you are the "decider", but it's the voters.

Obama 08

Iwik   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Good.

bryen   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

Seat the existing delegates!

Carol   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

And there shouldn't be one! Obama is leading in everything and Hillary is just illusional, and tearing the party apart........Time to go back to New york and Help David Paterson to build newyork..........

No More Pillows   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

And?

Brian   March 17th, 2008 5:53 pm ET

You mean the pro-Clinton Florida Democratic Party members want to find a way to force people to accept the results of their first "primary" in which hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters stayed home with the thought that their votes were not going to count?

ListenUpPeople   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Good. Florida had its chance, and it violated the rules.
And this violation was done by a Republican legislature and Republican Governor. Sorry Florida, you violate rules, you lose your chance.

errrr   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

It is really bad news for the DNC leaders because they are really Obama supporters. I guess that they would ruther loss Florida than let Hillary win it.

Darth Vadik, CA   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Good Lord Florida is soooooooooo messed up.
I'm not moving there when I get older, I'm going to Arizona.
Scottsdale sounds nice.

Becky in In.   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

They voted, count that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robin   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

It is sad that in the first place Florida violated the rules, but more importantly, it sad that DNC couldn't come up with a fair solution. Republicans honered the state votes by 50% and now they do have any problem.

Boo Hoo   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

Great–let's move on. The next time they will vote for a governor who has their best interest at heart.

Next subject.

Jenny, Rio Vista, CA   March 17th, 2008 5:52 pm ET

So what is the great Howard Dean going to do. If I were him, I would tell Florida that you will seat the delegates 50-50. I would also remind them that the situation was caused by their Governor and not Barack Obama, which seems to be the message that Clinton is delivering.

tired and frustrated (in the primaries)   March 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

Sorry Hillary...

JC   March 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

And here come the lawsuits from those that do not understand the law. The DNC is free to do what they choose and not have legal repurcussions because they are CHOOSING a NOMINEE. Not Electing an OFFICE.

There MUST be consequences for breaking the rules, and I do not want a nominee who would be okay changing the rules mid-game.

Disenfranchise voters? Na. EVERYONE knew the rules, even the voters.

Can't call it like it was either because of those, probably Obama's, who stayed home because they understood the rules and knew their votes would not count.

Vicky   March 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

I knew there is no primary from the time rules were set. Why should we live in a country of rules or laws if it is easier to go back and bend them?

patricia martin   March 17th, 2008 5:51 pm ET

I am glad to see that the Florida Democratic Party is abiding by rules set forth by the Democratic National Committee when the presidential primary campaign season began. As DNC Howard Dean has stated repeatedly, "You don't change the rules in the middle of the game. "

For Obama   March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

I am sure we will hear Hillarys words on this soon LOL

April in Texas   March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Finally now can this be tthe end of this please and get back to the issues and economy and uniting the democratic party.

Obama '08

Randy - Denver   March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

About time no bonus for cheaters!

Jon Cruz   March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Way to go. These jerks have now screwed over their party members twice. I am disgusted.

Darryl   March 17th, 2008 5:50 pm ET

Maybe us Democrats just need to vote for McCain.

Janet   March 17th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Thanks you! Florida messed up 2000 election. That is the main reason we ended up with Bush in the first place. Sorry Florida, your vote won't can't . Your state officals, sold you for a profit. You really need to look at your Govenment officals. They sold you out. So don't bame the DNC.!

Monty   March 17th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

Good. They don't deserve one.

bond   March 17th, 2008 5:49 pm ET

As it should be, following the rules.

anita   March 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

as it should be
neither candidate campaigned; both were on the ballot
it's a fair result

joe   March 17th, 2008 5:48 pm ET

Good! CNN, finally you stop this nonsense!

Percy   March 17th, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Good. Count the votes that way they were fairly taken.

I'm tire of these Obama-maniacs saying there was no campaign there, so no one could make an informed decision.

Last time I checked CNN and all the other national news organizations were covering the campaign and the coverage didn't stop at the panhandle border.

Obama: you will lose if you try to screw us.

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