"I am here for one simple reason," Clinton said to a small crowd of supporters gathered at an AFSCME hall. "To make sure Michigan's votes are counted, and your voices are heard in this election."

Wow! Senator Clinton is going to make "sure" their votes are counted! That "promise" includes her convincing Senator Obama to accept a solution to the Democratic Party self-imposed fiasco that will serve her better than him. Has she no bounds to her claims of her promises, supposed "experience" or her veracity?

They say that the Pastor of Obama's church has taken a 3 month vacation in an undisclosed location so that he cannot be reached until after the primary season closes? LMAO

Eric - "I will vote for McCain if Obama is the nomine."

LOL, and who are you hurting? If voting for totally different views if your horse loses is what makes you happy then go for. Why do you have to say it though? Think anyone cares who lil Eric votes for?

Anyone who can read and still supports seating delegates without revote (and a fair one), support it because you horse is losing. Admit it!!!

hillary up up up

obama down down down

I'm a huge Hillary supporter but the rules are the rules. Sorry Michigan and Florida, you chose to break the rules so you get punished. I wish that their votes were counted because it would help my candidate but they shouldn't be. I'm still hoping Hillary takes it but we've got to stop tearing each other down. Either Hillary or Obama are far better options than another Republican in office.

I don't buy that Clinton would be in Michigan if she were either ahead in the delegate account or if Obama had won Michigan in the primary. If it is so crucial for the votes to count in Michigan, why is she not in Florida attempting to champion the same thing? Why doesn't she fight for a way to make that happen? Michigan is convenient as a tool to hit Obama with because they haven't already ruled out a redo on their primary, that is why. Furthermore, why isn't she placing the blame for this mess where it belongs–on Michigan's legislature and Democtratic party? I thought she was about holding people accountable for their actions. I guess that is the way it is when it is convenient for her ends.

Im with you Seattle Chris!!

Voting rights for the folks in Michigan and Florida is as American as apple pie! What's wrong with us?? This should be a non-issue.

Yes we will put another republican in the whitehouse if Obama is the nominee!!

Better McCain than Obama anyday!!

Go Hillary!!

The other side to the current Clinton argument is does she respect rules? You can not change the rules after they have been made, and you began playing by them just because you are losing.

No, I am a Clinton supporter, but there is no way I would expect an opponent to help me overturn rules that may work against them. However, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask!!!!!

So the voters in Florida and Michigan aren't included in this message of unity that Obama speaks so highly of? How can we truly be united without these citizens!

Why doesn't CNN every post my comments? Are they afraid of the truth? Or are they simply biased towards HRC's supporters? Anyways…I'm glad to see that a few people actually caught HRC's dispicable tatics and wasn't fooled by them. We know that Obama followed the rules to take his name off the ballot. Hillary should have done the same but she choose to not follow the rules. Furthermore, she totally agree to not count MI and FL before their elections and now she's blaming Obama??? Are you KIDDING ME? She's the one that is dirty and un-American!!! She's simply discusting…please don't be fooled by Hillary's rhetoric!!!! At least, there are some here who see right through it and now we just have to let the rest of the American people see it too.

go McCain , the true patriot.

Obama does not set the rules but Hillary has managed to make many undescerning supporters to wrongly blame Obame for the stalemate in Michigan and Florida. It is the DNC and Howard Dean that's responsible for deciding what happens in both states but Hillary in win-at-all-cost or burn the ship mode is apparently playing her divide, manipulate, destroy games. No, it is not Obama's fault that Hillary is behind… the people have spoken!

Amen, Seattle Chris, amen!

Anyone who actually take Clinton's word as genuine clearly requires some mental check-ups. Clinton would be the first in line to block a Michigan and/or Florida revote if she was actually winning.

This is another way she is attempting to attack Obama while damaging the entire Democratic party in the process. Remember Hillary, Obama said he would support a "FAIR" revote, not one created by your supporters like Jennifer Granholm.

Please go away, the majority of people have enough of you, William, and Chelsea for our lifetime. You've had your 5 minutes of fame, go away.

I have to laugh at all the people being like, "Obama loses my vote once and for all for not wanting FL and MI"

Oh come on, so your saying that you would put another republican in the whitehouse over Obama? If that is true, GET OUT OF OUR PARTY! NOW! WE DO NOT WANT YOU, WE DO NOT NEED YOU TURNCOATS!

Hillary is one sleazy person. I would vote to let W have a 3rd term before i'd ever vote for her!

Wow. Anyone check out Hillary's experience online in the archives at Clinton Library? Makes Obama look like a day care kid. LOL

Hey, we want to see Obama's taxes and schedule for the past 15 years too….this is too funny.

HILLARY 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary or McCain - sorry BO!

I am a Clinton supporter. However, if there isn't going to be legitimization of the Flordia and Michigan voters, she should fold the tent, and secure the walls of the Obama campaign.

Unfortunate, but it is the will of the people (who voted), and we must respect that and remember the Democratic principles are much bigger than the individual candidate. Let's Congratulate Clinton, and now support Obama.

Obama/ Clinton?

Usual maneuvering by a lady that will do anything to get elected, including neglecting rules she had chosen to abide for and making new rules to fit her purpose. It's sad there are actually voters that aren't troubled by the transparent and disturbing character of the person that we want to represent us in our domestic and international interests.

Where was the fight for the voters at the time this decision was being made?

Scotty beam me up, there's no intelligent life down here!

Go Obama!

Yes Obama tell it like it is. You show time and time again you have the best judgement to lead America.

OBAMA '08

Senator Clinton has no class. She is challenging Senator Obama and she has not submitted her TAXES as of yet. What is wrong with this picture.
She had enough time to doctor the papers and now she is getting more time to doctor the TAX papers.
Same Old Clinton Politics just like Bush Clinton/Bush. Bill is already in tight with Bush Sr.
Same Game, Different Day!

Phyllis

Wake up people. It doesn't matter if she can catch up. No one has enough delegates to be the nominee and most importantly, Michigan and Florida are just as important as the other 48 states so LET them be HEARD. What are you Obama people so afraid of?

Does SHE mean what she says or not? She didn't raise this issue when the DNC first penalized Michigan and Florida. She knew and agreed to it. Now she's changed her mind? Now she cares about the Michigan voters? She has no feet to stand on in calling Obama out on this issue.

Obama has mostly won the red states and will not win them in the fall.

The other states he won are from the 90% black vote in major cities. Will not happen in the fall.

Even Iowa, which he won is now Hillary's state.

I can't believe some of you people. They both agreed to these rules prior to the primaries. Hillary KNEW the votes wouldn't count. SHE AGREED TO THEM. And now she wants them to be counted?! No. If Obama doesn't get elected I will lose all of my faith in this country.

This is just ignorance. I cannot believe you people.

Obama 08.

Obama….resign from the political race. You failed…you are a liar ! Not something new.

Five other states broke the rules and the DNC gave some of them a waiver! Why only apply the rules to Michigan and Florida?

Rules are rules…so they should apply to all.

Obama said he would try and seat the delegates earlier. Now changes his mind because of Republican vote not counting. What is wrong with this picture?

Not sure why this is Obama's fault. It seems that the only reason they are blaming Obama is because that's what Hillary wants you do to. Hillary consistently stresses that the super delegates should "follow the rules" - that is because that is what she needs to win. FL and MI did not follow the rules and Hillary supported that at the time. Now she is changing that because it is what she needs to win. Get a clue, she doesn't care about the people of MI or FL - just winning at all costs.

I wish people would get the facts before making decisions about this.
Find out what the voters in Michigan were told before their first election. Seek the truth before you sentence. And don't trust CNN to give it to you.

To

Obama and Obama supporters

It is not about Obama or Hilary who will win in the nomination.

This is all about democracy and people. Vote should be counted.

Democracy is all about "By the people, for the people and to the people".

Obama do not ignore people for the party leader's mistakes. Obama do not make them a Victim. Obama do not be a Cowrd, be democratic, and be a leader people of FL and MI should be counted.

If Obama is the nominee and Hillary supporters walk, we get McCain.

This is far LESS favorable and less palatable to the Obama people than it is to the Hillary people.

WE fought for freedom, and if the DNC rules take it away, then the heck with the hypocritical Democratic party.

I hope you Obama supporters will enjoy the reign of McCain.

I like the part in this article "a gathering of a small crowd." Maybe people are waking up to what she is really about. Power at all cost.

Hillary Clinton's challenge just shows how desperate she is. Hillary broke party rules, her non-compliance of her own party rules shows that she does not believe in or hold to her own party ethics. Her challenge is self-serving. The fundamental right for Flordia and Michigan to vote was not exclusively taken away by Barack obama like Hillary Clinton would like for us to believe.
Do we really want a president who will break rules to suit their own best interest ? A president whose greatest experience is contriving.

That is so ridiculous! Mrs. Clinton is behind Obama, that's the only reason for taking this position now. But Obama is right, the DNC is making the rules and not the Clintons….

it's bin over since super tuesday for hillary.but she refuses to see that.just quit now hillary.

Just give the white house to Mccain now stop wasting money. Because if hillary wins obama supports won't vote for her. And if he wins her supporters won't vote for him. These is sad four more years of the republicans. And it's all about race

Typical Clinton….triangulate to achieve their goals. HIllary is raising hate and discontent with her very obvious lies. This woman did not leave her name on the ballot because she thought every vote counted. It wasn't an issue when they thought she was going to be coronated after Super Tuesday….NOW it's an issue. Besides, now FL and MI know how all the other states felt during Primaries of previous Presidential Elections. States that had Primaries after Super Tuesday NEVER had a say in who their Party nominated. NO one had an issue with that! Hillary, just admit defeat before you destroy the entire Party. What a selfish power hungry wench.

Wow Obama is actually disenfranchising voters!!!

HE HAS LOST MY VOTE FOR GOOD!!

I love you Hillary.

Always taking the higher ground to unite the people, to protect the people- irregardless of who the winner is.

Hillary or stay at home

Hillary is really making the Democrats look bad. So divisive. No more Clintons. Obama 08′

John in PA-

How silly that is…
Up until now Senator Obama was ahead of Hillary in the RCP polls and Hillary didn't go home.
Senator Obama is STILL AHEAD where it counts: states, delegates, and popular votes.
It is Hillary that is done - and time for her to go home!

Polls should always be taken with a grain of salt!

Clinton is an ugly, ugly human being. Shame on you, Clinton! You MADE this bed, now you must lie in it!

the problem is not Obama. Hilary knew the rule of the game his year from the beginning of the contest. If the rule of the soccer is you play with your foot. You don't start using hands because you are defeated. Or you are seeking a way to cheat or win by fraud. Dean and the leaders of DNC have repeatedly and rightly say, "you don't change the rule of the game in he middle of the contest." Please reason well. Obama is not the one who made the rule. I am sure if election were to be held tomorrow in Michigan, Obama will still sweep the pool.
Hilary has a problem and that is not connected with reality- that her time has come and gone.

This is to WALLACE
EXCELLENT POST

Okay let me get this straight. Obama talks of united of setting a new tone on the issue of race and building a better united America. But, refuses to fight for MI and FL votes? Oh wait I get it, only build bridges and talk about race when it conveniences you, good one Obama. I'm totally voting for the candidate that is only courageous when it is convenient. That is not courage, that is politics.

I think if there is any doubt about Barack's speech yesterday, it is because issues on race is a subject some people will never be able to understand. It is simply over their heads.

Did I like what his pastor said? No. But, I also understand it was part of the fire and brimstone that lots of preachers have in the midst of a heated Sunday sermon. I'm too educated to think that there is only one point of view, and that this educated pastor can be summed up in two seconds, on the eleven o'clock news. I'm so glad my parents raised me to think for myself, and not let the media do my thinking for me.

My vote still goes to Obama. He is the best choice for this country.

I am a Democrat who never voted for Bill Clinton. I'm prouder of that record today, then I was back in the 90's.

Obama 08

OBAMA, we are asking you to DROP OUT! You are destroying our Party!!! Your connection to your Church is going to destroy our chances of winning the Election!

WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND YOU DROP OUT NOW!!

I think advertisers should stop advertising on fox news for starting the Rev Wright issue about race. Starting the fire and adding more and more fuel to it.

Investor, Anthony from ,Greenwich,CT

So let me get this right. Michigan broke the rules, and are suffering the consequences. Hillary wants to let them vote anyway.

That just reeks of the same lack of accountability we see in the Bush Administration. If they broke the rules, let them suffer the consequences.

Easy as that.

The only reason HIllary wants the re-vote is that it is the only way the math could ever work in her favor. A real presidential candidate would stand by the rules, whether they like them or not.

Sounds like those "PRESENT VOTES" all over again.

GIve Michigan their VOTE..AGAIN!

Hillary 2008!

The Democrates have done it again….where is Howard Dean? Rules are rules. Michigan and Florida voters were told their votes would not count…now Hillary needs them so we should change the rules? Now, you get real Hillary!!

Matt D, clarification, yes the respublicans in Florida moved the primary but not one of our democratic legislators opposed this Bill. We here in florida need to hold our elected officials accountable.

This has nothing to do with Obama or Clinton, she is just screaming because she is losing.

Hillary Clinton is an opportunist. She was agreeable to the rules that Michigan and Florida would not count if their primaries were moved up…NOW she wants them to count and is trying to paint Obama as an obstructionist?? The people supporting her are moronic and divisive. I am DONE with the Democratic party whether Obama wins or not. I will not support such an idiotic party and I urge ALL persons who can actually use their brain matter for something other than eating McDonald's to leave the Democractic party and register INDEPENDANT!!

Obama '08

It has become apparently clear. Obama supporters are afraid to have a revote. They know that Hillary won those states, and they know that now that Obama has shown that he is as racist as his "uncle", that he doesn't stand a chance to win the nomination. No revote. FL and MI voters have already cast their votes. Let their voices be heard, and give Hillary her justly deserved delegates. If Obama wants to split, then I think he should split the deleagtes he got in the Texas caucus, by having his thugs threaten them harm if they didn't vote for him.

Obama is objecting to the revote because it is *excluding* voters, it is not like the original primary and it *disenfranchises* voters. Obama is not obstructing a *fair* revote.

Well on the revote topic, it was clearly in the rules that they could hold a revote if done by June 10, and they both agreed to that. And clearly not in the rules that they must take their name off the ballot. By taking his name off the ballot Obama sent a clear signal that he cares more about party rules and his superior party officials than the voters. And he says like a baby, 'My name was not on the ballot'!. That is because he took it off!

And the legal argument of Obama is that it will be a closed party and people who have already voted cannot vote. Is it possible even in an open primary for people to vote twice, once as a republican and once as a democrat? Even though he took his name off the ballot, more than 90% of his supporters wrote his name in and still voted for him! Funny the Constitution says that the federal government has enumerated powers (which it lists) and all other powers go to the STATE. There is no mention of political parties in the Constitution. Obama studied and taught Constitutional law as well!

Man does she have a good point. Does Obama REALLY want to empower American people or just himself?

It's not the people of Michigan's fault that the party screwed up. It is their CIVIL RIGHT to vote.

What is Obama afraid of….losing?

Well on the revote topic, it was clearly in the rules that they could hold a revote if done by June 10, and they both agreed to that. And clearly not in the rules that they must take their name off the ballot. By taking his name off the ballot Obama sent a clear signal that he cares more about party rules and his superior party officials than the voters. And he says like a baby, 'My name was not on the ballot'!. That is because he took it off!

And the legal argument of Obama is that it will be a closed party and people who have already voted cannot vote. Is it possible even in an open primary for people to vote twice, once as a republican and once as a democrat? Even though he took his name off the ballot, more than 90% of his supporters wrote his name in and still voted for him! Funny the Constitution says that the federal government has enumerated powers (which it lists) and all other powers go to the STATE. There is no mention of political parties in the Constitution. Obama studied and taught Constitutional law as well!

Hillary we are asking you to DROP OUT of this campaign!! You and your husband have done a lot of DAMAGE to this PARTY!!!

I am concerned that no one is truly listening to the candidates right now and that Obama's golden rhetoric is smoothing the way for his lack of judgement. No one running for President of our country at this point is really qualified to take charge. With the trouble we're in right now, I see more trouble coming after the elections.

The hate of the Obama people has taught this lifelong democrat this much:
Independents and Republicans stay out of our primary if you are going to splinter the party and insult, hate, demean and denigrate your fellow Americans.

And for Obama, hate is never right.
You can not constantly cover up your mistakes by making a pretty speech to redefine what you meant and justify your hatred.

Stand up for the constitution as Hillary has done.

Hillary flip flops as usual and goes about accusing Obama of that. Well, the truth cannot be hidden for long and Senator Clinton is desperate but the more she prolongs this, the more time Obama has to get the truth across.

I have no doubt that Obama will win the delegate count by a small margin… Clinton will win the popular vote by a small margin(that is why Obama does not want the redo)… super delegates will have to decide on who is more likely going to win the general election…

Not sure why everyone is talking about overturning the will of the people… if it ended today Obama is ahead in both but if this goes to the convention it will be split as stated above… all of you need to look at the math… not ABC, FOX, CNN's math…

I voted for Obama and I have come to the realization that Clinton is more likely going to win in November!!!

All you Hillary lovers watch what you wish for. If Hillary gets the nomination, as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow McBush will be the next President. She will never be President of the United States.

First she refuses to abide by rules all candidates agreed on about campaigning in these two states.

Her concerns about these voters are too little too late.

Live with it Mrs. Clinton.

Not smart, Obama you phoney liar racist. Really not smart to make the Florida and Michigan voters madder at you than they already are.

Not that it matters - after the last couple of days, you're toast in the general election if by some miracle you get the nomination. You should just go away quietly now before you humiliate yourself further. I have an idea - why don't you go to church?

I didn't see where Obama said he didn't want the Michigan votes to count. He is simply stating the obvious - the law was set & it needs to be resolved before anything more happens and extra dollars are spent in vain. I think the DNC should have thought this out BEFORE the original election. Of course Hillary is ready to go — money is no object and she doesn't realize the word NO and/or follow the law applies to her!

How do we spell desperation?….BILLary! Enough already. Hillary wasn't concerned about voters rights in Michigan nor Florida until she fell behind and decided it was her only way to gain delegates. She is trying her best to play "insider politics".

Obama will do anything to get elected,even disenfranchise his own people.What kind of democrat is a person that says your vote doesn't count?Is this the same same person that wants to bring us together?
May be he should ask his hate filled Reverend what he should do.

So yesterday Obama gave a speech in which he summarized racism in America in broadest, most generic terms. He personalized it by comparing private chats with his grandmother to the public inciting of hatred to a group of 8500 (not counting the DVD sales). In the end Obama grew oh so insightful conclusion that racism is bad and we still have a lot of work to do. What am I missing? In what way was this so-called "masterpiece" speech not a mediocre 9th-grade essay?

The fact is…all votes need to be counted whether the rules are changed, broken or ignored. The democrats cannot afford to lose to the republicans again. That is the bottom line. Think democrat ! Right now we all know it will either be Hilary or Obama. It's time for everyone to stop taking cheap shots @ Hilary and Obama. They are not dividing the party, we the people are with our narrow minded comments. Fight for the party!

As for your comment Terry….If Clinton makes you feel that you are beneath her, you really need to check yourself - what is wrong with you?

Dear Hillary-

Senator Obama has more better things to worry about and talk about at the moment: The Iraq war, race in America, the economy, better education, etc.

The DNC is in charge of deciding about Michigan and Florida. Hillary please stop your spin and leave Senator Obama alone right now - he is in a campaign running against Senator McCain.

Obama '08

She is doing anything to win delegates, superdelegates and nomination. She shakes trees, tears democratic party, inject racism, sexism for her advantage…..I reject falling into cultism of two families running White House like private entity. Those caught up in this comedy show are delusional…

Michigan and Florida knew the consequenses when they changed thier primary dates. To make this an issue against Obama is laughable.

It is so obvious that if Hillary didn't think she could have more delegates in Florida and Michigan, there would be no talk of "voices not heard".
She must really think American people are very dumb. She goes with whatever can work on her favor and that is why she would not be such a good president. She has shown in her past that she's a fierce politician and I'm afraid that it can get in the way of good judgment.
Even staying with Bill after he ridiculed their marriage was probably a good political move and nothing else.

Hillary Clinton amazes me. She is in Michigan challenging Barack Obama to help make sure the voters of that state can have their primary votes and their delegates counted. News flash to all Michigan voters, she signed a legal document stating that she agreed with the DNC to not campaign in that state because they broke the rules of the DNC, SHE KNEW THEN THE VOTES WOULD NOT COUNT, HELLO!!!!!! Your own state caused this problem and Hillary would have you believe she is your best friend (even if you don't vote for her …Yah!) and challenge some one else who is only playing by the rules. Hillary Clinton plays by her rules and no one elses.
Think for one minute if the shoes were reversed, she woud do everything in her power to make sure that no re-vote was held. WAKE UP MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!

We all know that you are the people's choice.
Stand up for the people and their constitutional right to vote.
That is the higher ground.
Obama only wants votes in his favor to be counted- even if they got counted twice.

We Hillary supporters are tired of being bullied into voting for Obama directly or indirectly by discounting our votes.

Hillary you are the best.

What electoral planet is Hillary Clinton on? Does she not get it, does she not know, or is she just in denial that the mess in Flordia and Michigan is her fault? If Hillary Clinton had not of broken the rules of her own party we would not be in this situation. She should of removed her name also. Her non-compliance of her own party rules shows that she does not believe in or hold to her own party beliefs.
The voters in both states knew that their vote would not count. Why did they come out an vote anyway?
Once again we see how self-serving Hillary Clinton is. She is now trying to place the blame on Barack Obama for the situation in Flordia and Michigan and challenging him to support her attempt to make votes count in the two states that did not hold a Primary for Democrates. If he does meet her challenge it is in her best interest. If he does not meet her challenge it makes him look bad. The Fundamental right to vote in Michigan and Flordia was not exclusively taken away by Barack Obama like Hillary Clinton would like for us to believe.
Do we really want a president who will break rules to suit their own interest? A president whose greatest experience is contriving. If she were ahead in the polls I wonder if she would want a re-do.

How can you fairly count the votes from an election when there was pretty much only one name on the ballot. How many of you would have gone out to vote in an election where your candidate's name wasn't on the ballot AND you were told that the votes would not count. Her "win" is ridiculous. So how do you "punish" a state for breaking the rules? You let them do it all over and give them the power to basically decide the election. I don't think so.

Frankly, this is all silly. Those paying close attention knew that Hillary was toast somewhere between Wisconsin and Texas. Anyone who can't see it's over at this point now, is just plain embarrasing. I'm sure Hillary knows this better than all of us. Hoping and carrying on for Hillary to win, means you haven't done your homework, or don't have the integrity to face facts. I feel your pain, but fess up, it's over. The focus now, should be how to defeat McCain.

I have been reading some of the comments posted and I’m surprised on how people are distorting Sen. Obama’s speech. This is a speech that republicans, democrats and independents needs to sit down and reflects on for this country to move forward, I was impressed when I heard Ms. Buchannan chief strategist of former presidential hopeful, Mitt Romney said the speech transcend partisan.
Nancy in her posting writes that Obama in his speech said he was in church when the pastor makes the comment. Nancy, please go back and listen to the speech or read the transcript, at no time did he said that, what he said was that he had heard him made some comments he does not agree with. We have at one time or another heard people we love make comments that we do not agree with, we do not because of that disown them; we have the right to disagree with what people say without becoming enemies. There is something in the constitution that is call freedom of speech; it means people are free to say what they like. If you disown all you friends or family that you’ve heard said things that are not right, by now I believe you will be a loner.
Hillary is showing us now that she can change her mind at anytime provided it benefits her. It’s certain that she never imagined that Florida and Michigan votes will be important to her, which is why she signed them off, but now that it will benefit her she wants their votes. In essence, she is telling us that she would stop the war in Iraq within few months of becoming the president, but have the right to change her mind once she become the president, if it’s going to benefit her in the long run.
We all have right to our opinions about people that are running for political office, moreover, the highest political office in the world. Let’s put our prejudice apart and take a closer look at this people, not only on what they say, but also, on how their words correlate with their behaviors.

The DNC should stand up and correct the Michigan and Florida vote situation fairly and quickly. Howard Dean should be ashamed of himself. Count the Votes and seat these delegations. The United States of America is made up of 50 states, not 48…..

Thanks for standing up for them Senator Clinton. You have always been a fighter. Keep fighting and don't loose sight of what this is all about. If it is not fair, PLEASE KEEP CHALLENGING IT!!

That's what a true Leader would do.

Go Hillary!!!!!!

Obama isn't against giving the states a say in the election. He has said over and over he will agree to what the DNC decides. That is the way it should be handled…not HRC trying to ram rule changes down everyone's throat to help her agenda.

Both Candidates should stay out of this discussion completely. I think OBama is doing that…She however isn't.

Robin the simplicity and shortness of your comment says it all

"If the Democrats send a message that we don't care about your votes, I'm sure John McCain and the Republicans would be happy to have them," she said. "In fact, the Republicans will argue that Michigan and Florida voters shouldn't trust the Democrats to look out for them when we won't even listen to you."

Her willingness to throw Obama under the bus and endorse McCain in this way is appalling.

Give her FL and MI and she's still behind. She just doesn't get it.

Anything to win.

HRC - she should be a comedian. Her little friend, Ickes, voted to strip the delegates of Michigan last year saying it was his duty. Now - he and the former first lady are upset and blaming Obama yet it was of their own doing. That just entertaining! How stupid does she think the public is? Talk about doing a 180 when things don't quite go your way. Great leadership! Anything to drag your opponent down.

McCain 08

We already voted in the primary election. Who was it that changed the rules?? They should be held accountable for their actions.
They chose to move the primary ahead and not having all candidates on the ballot so why should we give them another chance. They blew it.
Looks like the democratic party is on the way to it's own demise here in Michigan and nation wide. I think we have had enough of the Clinton's and the Bush's they represent all that is wrong with this country, Greed and Power. If anybody thinks they really have the American people's interests in mind they are sadly mistaken.

C'mon Obama own up to your word you gave over a month ago. Stop backtracking on what you said for once. We all know the reason you don't want a revote now is because all your skeletons are creeping out of your closet. If you had your way, you would end this now to prevent more of who you really are from coming to fruition. If you claim you can unite the party, then support the revote and don't disenfranchise millions of voters.

Hillary knew when she campaigned there the first time, that the votes would not count. It doesn't bother her at all to demand a state re-do its primary and what-ever cost in funds as well as respect for law, just because that's the way her ladyship wants it.

She could have fought for Fl and Mi before the DNC made the decision. She could have appealed to Howard Dean and others. I didn't see any news headlines stating Hillary Clinton says please don't disenfranchise Fl and Mi. Even when she signed the agreement she could have said I'm signing but I don't think it's right. The truth is back then Hillary thought her nomination was inevitable and she DID NOT CARE about Fl and Mi. Now that she is behind and desperate she cares. If the voters of Fl and Mi are too naive to realize this perhaps they shouldn't be voting.

We don't need no Mrs. Clinton
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the campaign
Clintons leave them kids alone
Hey! Clintons! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall!

Dear Democrats,
You know why so many Americans don't vote? Do you know why "independents" are so important? Just read all of your comments. "Shut up Barack" and "Hillary is the devil." You cannot even be respectful of the two candidates that have reinvigorated your party and have offered the first potentially successful programs in years. Instead, you rip each other apart, piece by piece, brick by brick. This is why partisanship fails. This is why I left the party and, while voting consistently and proudly democrat, could never stomach giving myself a title represented by so much discord and strife. Get your act together and select a nominee like adults. For the first time in decades the Republican party looks reasonable in light of the comments of democratic supporters. There is no doubt in my mind that the democratic candidates are the better candidates. But there is great doubt as to whether you–the mllions of individual supporters–are as enlightened and destined for greatness as you seem to believe. Hillary or Obama 08, end of story.

For the all the Hillary haters - you all need to open your ears. Americans like yourselves are into what is popular not what is real. Hillary may not be everything we hoped and prayed for but with her we know what we're getting. With Obama you have no idea what he will bring to the table except all the skeletons that are flying out of his closet. Obama will be the beginning of the end for America. He is just as big a liar. Read his speech on the Iraq war from 2004. Totally the opposite of what he says today. Hillary and Obama will lie, cheat and steal to make it to the White House where they can lie, cheat, and steal.

Clinton isn't trying to change any rules.

There are rules and process in place to seat teh FL and MI delegations and to revote.

These rules exist, just like the sanction rules exist.

It shows a distinct ignorance of the rules to suggest that Clinton is propossing to break any of them, or change any of them.

Everyone knnows the MI and FL delegations will be seated at convention and always were going to be seated. They just didn't think it prevent determining a winnner before that.

Super delegates may not vote for Clinton over Obama, but they sure as heck will vote to seat these delegations at convention. They aren't dumb. They have to be seated.

all this while she discounts small state voters….

It does not matter no revote no Hillary………

If you want McCain in office so be it.

But Hillary will NOT be there…………

Obama 08

Obama is afarid that he will loose hence he is not opting for a revote.

We do not want a coward President. We want a president who is strong and a fighter.

n August 2007 the Democrats’ Rules and Bylaws Committee voted by a 30-1 margin that Michigan and Florida’s delegates would not be seated. Among those 30 was — guess who? — a certain Harold Ickes.

Why should they count results when some people stayed home? or are the ones that stayed home because they knew it wouldn't count not important…talk about hypocrisy….some people need to think before they speak….she signed the paper saying they won't count so she didn't care then now she does? yea ok I believe that….

Of course Hillary would want the votes to count even if she had the lead, It is about the general election folks. It would mean more support if she had the lead, either way they should count. I have no clue why Obama is resisting these state counts. He may lose either way but all 50 states should be counted, period. What is his national domocracy view, I guess one side, and not united. SAD.
Of course Clinton wants them to count, it is for the democratic parties sake regardless who is nominated. Obama folks narrow sighted view tells me alot. Clinton is the only Democratic candidate that can win now, sorry too many bridges Obama has burned to be successful in November.

Hillary is not a figher. She's a liar. Get it straight people!

Way to go.

We love Hillary- OUR constant and true Champion of the people.

Everyone is Equal in Hillary's eyes and she has been working for 35 years to that end.

Obama is the divisive one. He took a once unified democratic party and splintered it into bits just to star himself in history

The DNC plan was always to reinstate the delegates from MI and Florida. Its in the rules. The DNC is in the business of winning elections not writing off two states before the election even begins.

Obama cannot win without FL and MI. He is trying to push a 50/50 delegate split which goes against all democratic principles and the democratic process.

He is the one who is trying to cheat and get delegates that were not voted for by the people of these two states.

Since Obama has nixed revotes in both states, I hope they stick to their guns and accept nothing less than the seating of ALL of their delegates as is at convention, which was always the plan.

If the convention votes aginst seating MI and FL, the democrats can kiss the white house goodbye. Its political suicide.

VALID POINT!!! I am proud fo her being an advocate of democracy in the election process!!!!!! Seat those votes now & let the voice of MI & FLA be heard!

Well, Obama is busy repairing his image from the J. Wright scandal so he does not have time for this!!! Very immature! I will never vote for him!

Way to spin it, Hillary. You agreed to abide by the DNC's decisions and not campaign in those states. You agreed that their delegates would not be seated. And NOW you're up in arms about disenfranchising all those voters.

But Obama, somehow, is the one who might not mean what he says.

Okey doke!

OBAMA '08

What am I missing? I honestly mean that. My understanding of the whole FL and MI 'issue' is that the DNC told MI and FL not to move their primary dates up and if they did their delegates wouldn't be seated. And they did it anyway? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Really. I'm just puzzled by all this.

The Obama campaign is trying to suppress the VOTES OF MILLIONS.

Hillary has never explained why (if she was so concerned about disenfranchising voters) she signed the papers agreeing that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count. Why doesn't someone ask her point blank if this is how you feel why did you sign that?

Ickes - who plays a prominent role in her campaign - was one of the architects of the decision. If she's so concerned about democracy shouldn't she fire him?

I love the fact that they can try and blame Obama for this with a straight face. The hypocrisy is simply breathtaking.

Sarah C -

Thank you for posting that, you are absolutely correct. Though I'm surprised CNN allowed that to be said. I have been speaking that message for weeks now, commenting on this site and not once have they allowed my comments to be posted because it had that message.

Congratulations and well said.

Everyone else, she's correct. Now get over it.

Steve - ""Its an uncomfortable feeling for me that Obama do not want the Michigan and Florida votes counted.""

Was it uncomfortable when Hillary didn't want them counted either?

Oh yeah, a Clinton asking if someone else (Obama) means what they say or not. Not that's a doozy coming from the most two-faced political couple in American history which talks out of both sides of the mouths on both faces. Hillary, GO HOME!!!

The leaders in Michigan did not care about the people because if they did they would have followed the rules. If any elevator goes up they can see that all types of illegal processes will take place if there is a re-vote put forth for Michigan. Go ahead and whine, you will get over it. It's the same thing we tell our children when they have disobeyed. It teaches them dicipline, and make them think not to do this again. I wonder how Hillary, her campaign, or these leaders of Michigan sleep at night. Oh, I forgot, maybe they are calling Hillary at 3:00 a.m. in the morning because they have a crises on their hand! And the answer is, let's not think rationally and use good judgment for the people..make them think that their votes will really count this time too.

Obama supporters are hypocrites. Cry like mad when there votes don't count when Bush won, but scream like mad that its unfair to count the votes of two states that aren't being counted because it could hurt them.

Go figure!!!

How many deals do Bill have that he's working on that Hillary don't want to talk about . I sad that so many American would rather elect a crook that places her own interest ahead of American people.

That the sad truth. Flip Flop and Sue when she can't get the results she wants.

Sad, Sad, Sad

Elect Sad Hillary in 08 and Cry for the next 4 years……..

They broke the rules! Now they have to suffer the consequences! I don't get why there is a debate. If the DNC doesn't enforce their rules, then what's the point of having rules to begin with? States will just do whatever they like, knowing that eventually the DNC will give in. Unbelievable!

To top it all off, she's basically asking MI and FL to vote for McCain if they don't revote. How typical - she should just be McCain's running mate, because all she's done so far is help his campaign.

I don't see the problem here. Neither candidate will have enough delegates without MI and FL.
Obama supporters cry all you want either the so called "super delegates" can choose the nominee or the people can decide!!!

Now that Hillary has released some of the documents that are SO IMPORTANT to everyone, some are already saying they have been "doctored up" LOL. Get a life please. If our dear Mr. Obama was behind in delegate votes, would he want a re-vote or not? You bet he would. You can't have everything BOTH ways guys. If you want to jump up and down over a win in Wyoming when a total of 8,000 votes were cast, you need to include 1.7 million in Florida and whatever the number was counted in Michigan.

Robin, you are correct, but the NDC made the rules and the states broke the rules and now everyone is crying wanting something to come along, like instant gratification… to fix what their leaders broke.
What Hillary and some folks are asking for is going to involve lengthy legalities. Hillary's comments are also involking her republican book FEAR tactics. Again? Hillary might do better if she switched to the Republican ticket…once again.

Bottom line, Dems shouldn't be allowed to vote in Republican Party Primarys, Republicans shouldn't be allowed to vote in Democratic Party Primarys, and Independants shouldn't be allowed to vote in either. It's like me walking into a Board meeting of a company I have no affiliation with and demanding a vote.

The people of the states of Michigan and Florida have a right to have their votes counted. To punish everyone within the state for what a few politicians did is no different than walking into a room and punishing the whole room for what one person in the room did.

And as for the agreement, it was simply to not campain in those states. A rule Obama broke by playing a grey area and running ads on CNN, MSNBC and FOX NEW CHANNEL. Obama and Clinton both have a duty as elected officials to stand up and fight for our rights and Obama seems to be ingnoring his duty by not standing up for the people.

Forget Obama for a minute.

Hmm. doesn't this sound familiar…

She votes for the war that has needlessly ravaged our economy and security and, more importantly, ravaged thousands of lives. Then all of a sudden she is Ms. anti-war, commander-in-chief, stalwart of judgment, I never voted for "this" war.

She votes to uphold her party's decision that Florida has once again broken the rules and botched a voting process (for which Michigan replicated the inanity). Then she is Ms. anti-party, commander in cheating, stalwart for fooling the people, I never agreed to "this" rule.

Ms. Clinton is shameless and I cannot believe that people continue to be shrouded under her subterfuge. It is mind-boggling.

Hillary–where was your opposition when the Michigan DP made its bed? Where was your opposition when you (and everyone else) agreed that Michigan and Florida delegates wouldn't be seated? Every argument you've made was as true back then as it is now.

Kinda reminds me of….where was your opposition when you voted "yea" on the war?

Your judgment is right on the money when you've had several months to determine whether your position benefits you.

Come on people. Please read the MI rules. If someone voted Republican in the orignal primary, they would not be able to vote in the re-vote. I've read numerous comments that many MI Dems voted in the republican primary because they were told their vote wouldn't count anyway. So in a Dem re-vote, theire vote STILL wouldn't count. I'm sure there are BOTH Clinton and Obama supportes who did this. If and only if those voters are able to re-vote as well, should their be a re-vote. If not, how will it be fair.

As also noted numerous times, why has Clinton all of a sudden wanting these votes to count? Has ANYONE asked her that question. If she cared that much, why did she WILLINGLY sign the agreement that MI and FL delegates do not count. All through the primaries, we heard not one word from Clinton about those votes. Only after 11 losses and found she was behind, did she say anything.

I don't agree with the DNC for doing this. It is totally unfair to the voters. They should blame their state legislators for this fiasco and make them pay for it in their next election. But stop blaming the candidates. It is not their fault.

It doesn't matter anyway. The Democratic party is completely dividied. And the funny part is it is dividied by race and gender. The party that talks about inclusion and equality shows its true colors in this election. Whites are now voting for Clinton just because she is white, women are voting for Hillary just because she is a woman and black are voting for Obama just because he is black.

What a waste - two candidates who are BOTH uniquely qualified, and yes, both with their own faults and shortcomings. Either one is better than McCain or any Republican. If the comments of the last few weeks are true, niether candidate can win in November. They BOTH appear to have lost a particular voting bloc of the democratic party. Niether will win without the support of the others main voters. And I fear that has already happened. So sad. BTW - I'm an African American who supported Obama, but I'm considering staying home in November no matter who wins. I'm sick of the Democratic party as a whole. They just don't seem to get it. Reagan said it (and I hated him) the 11th commandment, don't talk bad about another Republican. Why can't the Dems do the same?

The cncern here is that the rules are being bended to allow another re-vote in Michigan. Whoever is calling for this is setting a precedence that will be costly for tthe party
Period!!!!

CNN stop erasing my comments, none have been insulting or bad comments, im just asking you to please stop prohibiting me from posting. STOP .

To those of you posting that you'll never vote for Obama. Who really cares? There are those that will vote for him. That's what I care about.

OBAMA siad he will go along with the rules that DNC came up with and he did but she is not following the rule. she is distrying her own party. if obama was to run his campain the way she did there will be soooooooooo many things about her that would make you want to throw up

She Through the Gauntlet…. Away to go — Hill………..

Why was this not an issue to Clinton when she was leading? WOULD SHE BE SAYING THIS IF SHE HAD THE LEAD? I am just disappointed that she wants to fight for the 2 states when it is to her advantage. Why didn't she fight this hard at the beging when they said you can’t campaign there? I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR HER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary doesn't care in protecting the Democrats from McCain in Nov. She through Obama overboard when she said he was not ready to be Commander and Chief of US. She is all about Hillary. She has no use for the small states or caucus results of many states. She is all about "Big" state wins. Interesting enough, essentially, Barack won Texas by one delegate. She doesn't want people to know that. Barack
won Texas (Big State).

What happened to democracy if those millions of people's voices in both Michigan and Florida could not be heard. Especially in Florida, the Republicans were the ones who broke the rules and now the Democrats are being punished by it. Both states cannot be disinfranchised. This is a serious issue and Obama needs to step up to the plate and solve the issue head-on. Isn't his speeches were about bringing people together? So why is he not allowing those millions of people in Michigan and Florida to cast their votes.

I was shocked when I heard that Florida would not redo a primary and now I hear that Obama is trying to prevent a revote in Michigan claiming legal issues. Please. What a cry baby. Does he not realize this will come back to haunt him in the general election if he gets the nomination? If Florida and/or Michigan don't have a revote or the DNC doesn't count the vote from the previous primaries in those states, I will vote for McCain if Obama is the nomine.

Super delegates get behind Barrack Obama now. End this charade.

The DNC GOVERNS the rules of the Democratic primary elections. END OF STORY.

Move on. Get over it.

I don't believe what I hear and read in 2008 America. It is a matter of deep regret that people can't see beyond their nose what Hillary sands to achieve.

Why didn't she advocate for a do-over or re-vote immediately after the MI and FL primaries when she was leading or when her lead looked looked insomountable after the Super Tuesday?
Was she not part of those who signed and agreed that delegates for those two states should not be seated for breaking the laws of DNC.

She is making it look like no one else is capable of being the US president but her.
She wants it so desperately that she could do anything to get there.
let her show she must obey the simplest andlocal laws without issues.

CNN didn't want to post this when I said it before but it's true.

This is a primary race conducted by the Democratic party. Unlike in November, there is no inherent right to vote in this process, and the Democratic party could just as easily select a nominee behind closed doors.

It's a courtesy, and one that Howard Dean decided to revoke from two states that didn't live up to the rules that were set and agreed before the primary season began.

Its the media coverage and the publicity that Obama is getting recently made him a rock star and his campaign show lots of arrogance. How can he ignore the votes of FL and MI? He knows that he can't win FL and MI again on e revote. That is why the campaign is putting all the obstructions with the help of his DNC buddies. Take these states out from general election and McCain is a sure winner.

Why wasn't Harold Ickes upset when he made the rules on the DNC Committee?? Why wasn't Senator Clinton screaming it was unfair when she signed the Pledge??? Why are we being treated unfair NOW and not then???

She agreed with the DNC's terms before, now since she is losing she wants to flip flop on this too. I am really worried that her drama is going to ruin the Democratic Party! And as far as her documents go… We all know she is only releasing the documents that make her look good. What's the hold up on the TAX documents!

With or without Michigan, Hillary's got the momentum and will win the majority of the super delegates, therefore the nomination. Her critics say she will do anything to win the election…What a novel idea…! -Is she supposed to play to lose…? Who are these people? This is the exact 'personality trait' necessary to beat John McCain in November.

Hillary should be ashame of herself and the way her campaign is being ran. She signed off on the loss of delegates from MI and FL and now since she is behind in all catagories she will do anything to try to catch up even if that means going back on her word. We do not need a leader who can not be honest with the american people and stand by the very word she gives. And to spin why she doing this instead of telling the truth is what makes this even more troubling to me. So with all this said, I wish she start thinking about the democratic party and step aside and lets join forces to beat John McCain. SAY GOOD BYE HILLARY!

OBAMA '08

Hillary stop this nonsense. We abide by the rules and regulations in this beautiful country of ours.

You agreed to this whole mess in Michigan and Florida. You Hillary signed and sealed this document agreeing to it along with Barack Obama and John Edwards. You have the audacity to change the rules and regulations. Please becareful.

Thank you and listen to me

Why does the Clinton campaign and Clinton supporters blame Obama for everything that happens.

Rules only seem to apply to Obama and not to Clinton. Michigan and Florida knew what they were doing when they broke the DNC rules. You can darn well bet that if Clinton was ahead, there would be no way in hedes that she would agree to a re-vote in Michigan and Florida.

GIve Obama a break…the next thing we know he will get blamed for any natural disaster that happens.

NEWS FLASH……………..

Hillary has won another state, according to the political cartoonist, Mike Luckovich. THE STATE OF DENIAL !

Why should the average citizen vote be discarded. All they did is show up to vote when they were scheduled to.

i am really amazed at this clinton suppoters or worshippers.they are so rude,brash,arrogant,uneducated and just plain dumb.they have used the most insulting words on our future president,sen. barrack obama.they have lied and made up stupid stories about him.
so CNN,what is the use of moderating comments,if u allow this kind of insulting language?i am really disappointed in you.
i am beginning to think obama should leave this bid,because he is too good for the presidency of this country.
a genuinely sincere person who has the ability to change alot of america and the world,and he is being attacked for no reason,i am apalled.
he deserves so much better.
al gore showed he was better and he is loved and respected all over the world.
shame on hillary,because she started all this negativity and insult on barrack
and her ignorant followers follow suit.

yes yes most people can see she is a lier she never never will walk the talk, a republican always a republican. !!!!

Why Hillary did not run as independent when she realized that MI and FL vote will not count ?
To exercise her fairness, she had to fight beforehand or run as independent. If you become members of the party you have to abide by the rule.

Hillary Billary YOU agreed to it, why are you now wanting to change the rules? We know that you and bill think you are above the law, but enough is enough……… where are your tax records, does it take another law suit?

Senator Clinton, Michigan Government and the Democrat National leaders agree that it would be fine to have another vote for Michigan

Where is Obama when he brags about unity?

I forgot- the point is that if the situation were reversed, BOTH candidates would be switching their positions.

All the Democratic candidates agreed to the rules, which explicitly stated that any state moving its primary before Super Tuesday without express permission from the DNC (and those states were voted on before the final rules were set anyway) would lose their right to seat delegates at the national convention in Denver. That being said, when the Democratic parties of Michigan and Florida voted to break the rules, they knew the consequences and the magic number of delegates needed to win the nomination was adjusted as such. The 2025 number does not count the MI and FL delegates so if they do get a re-do (which I don't think they should because they knowlingly broke the rules and would get exactly what they wanted in the first place–a large say in the nominee) the number of delegates need to secure the nomination would also need to be increased.
No nominee should be able to try to change the rules mid-game, especially those trying to change it in their favor. I feel for the voters but it isn't Hillary or Barack's fault. If you want to blame anyone for your votes not counting, blame your state's Democratic party and the people who voted to break the rules. You must reap the consequences of your elected official's mistakes.

Elaine: enough with the bigotry and race baiting…we have moved on. I guess you will have to find another strategy to move the mindless Clinton voters…

OH CNN, update your delegate count. MSNBC has Obama at 1625 and Clinton at 1506. Your cheating Obama by 4 but cheating Hillary by 27. Was that on purpose CNN?

What little respect I had for Hillary Clinton is gone. I find it completely laughable that she's blaming the Obama campaign for the situation in Michigan. Is she taking us for fools?? The Obama