Learn math Hillary and stop trying to change the rules.

Will the spin EVER end with these people? These are the same people who are pleading for the DNC and Obama to not "disenfranchise" voters, but they are willing to accept pledged delegate support from delegate who represent the will of the people. I expect to see full coverage on this newest doublespeak and out right lies.

This is a very cheap weapon on the part of Senator Clinton. I understand why she is doing this though, numerically she cannot win this election by means of delegate votes or popular votes. Her only conceivable option is to, in effect, steal delegates already in support of Senator Obama. This would cause an even greater divide in the Democratic party.

She is cookin' up something!!! I can feel it!!!

And if the Superdelegates take away the vote of the Democratic Party with backroom shinanigans, say hello to 4 more years of McBush.

I guess Nader was right. Dems have to hang it up if we can't beat the Republicans this year.

Hillary, you disgust me.

Then why do we bother voting at all, if it all goes to waste with the pledged delegates. You think you'd have uproar if the superdelegates upturn the vote.

Imagine if the voted delegates overturn it too! The dems would lose for sure.

Well, what she stated is true. They can change their vote at the convention, even though majority have never done that, but if they feel the candidate they are to support is not electable, they may change their vote.

Either me or no Democtrat…that what Mrs. Clinton means.

Anything to win, right Hillary? Doesn't matter who the people voted for. I'm pretty sure that if HRC had more pledged delegates, she would be touting the importance of abiding by the will of the American voters. Yuck.

Obama keeps talking about playing by the rules….

Guess What….

Hillary is right….lover her or hate her… delegates are free to vote for whomever they choose.

Quick! Someone give me another straw to grasp!
Hurry!
I'm desperate here!

It's over. See ya Hill. Quit trying to destroy the Democratic Party for your own personal gain. You're losing. You've been losing. You've lost.

The political picture is now crystal clear for anyone with eyes not blinded by dogma. Obama cannot win the general election. Hillary can, and if nominated, will win the general election by a landslide. After having the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004 stolen in Florida and Ohio, respectively, the Democrats will snatch an overwhelming defeat from the jaws of victory with an Obama nomination. Delegates cannot be such fools, can they?

HAH. So only Michigan and Florida's delegates should go the way of the primary, eh Hill? Try to steal the rest of them anyway you can is that it? Such a hypocrite and a liar.

I think Hillary is absolutely right about this.
And if any of her pledged delegates decide to wizen up and vote for Obama, I welcome them to do so.

I am sure that Hillary will do all the pleading she can get by with to get the superdelegates to switch over to her side. She should face up to it, that there is no other way she can win this election.

How else would you expect her to respond? It is of no relevance to the campaign today. I am not EVEN a Clinton fan. Dislike and distrust her, but I have no interest in that topic and can certainly understand why Chelsea doesn't want to hear about it anymore.

Think she would be bringing this up if she were in the lead? Of course not. She's got it in her head that she deserves the WH so much that she is willing to stoop to any level to get it, including ignoring the results of the primaries and the voters.

Ignoring the results of the vote and ignoring the voters voices? Gee, that sounds an awful lot like the man we have in office now doesn't it?

Uhmmm, what the meaning of "is" is?

Typical of the clintons, change or redefine the rules until I get elected.

Someone in the DNC needs to come out there and tell this lady to stop it.

Enough already.

She will stop at nothing, this is just ridiculous. Why do we even have an election if the delegates don't have to follow the election results?!? Her tactics are really just getting out of control!

I wonder, what will she say when all her pledged delegates shift for OBAMA.

They're not up for grabs you blindly ambitious monster. Get out of the race!!! The country deserves better than what Billary Clinton can possible give us!!!

Hillary Clinton is absolutely correct.

They can vote for whomever they choose.

And by August, the only delegate she will end up getting for herself will probably be her husband.

SOMEONE STOP HER!

She will destroy everything…

I wonder, does she realize that this can go both ways? For as many Obama delegates who would want to switch to Hillary, there has got to be just as many willing to go in the opposite direction. I 'applaude' her attempt to subvert the will of the voters, I just hope someone in her campaign realizes that a sword has two edges, not just the one.

Yeah. To heck with the little people and how we actually VOTED.

For God's sake, when will this anti-democractic demagogue give it up? After she has completely undermined voting rights in the US?

Hillary Clinton is treading on extremely thin ice here. It is time that she woke up and smelled the coffee. If she thinks that she and her surrogates can play this kind of russian roulette with the powers that be in the Democratic Party, they will be sadly dissapointed. It is self destructive on her part to even raise this issue.

Now she wants to take our votes away. Can you belive this? She will do anything to win.

I do not understand how anyone can support her. What a cheat. She claims she wants Mich and Flor. seated to make sure all voters are heard…then says it's ok to steal the votes from voters who have already pledged for Obama. Slimey!

The Obama campaign might have the media, pundits, and the blogosphere on their side, but us bedrock Democrats have the Clintons, and that's all we need. This great power couple has had to endure so much..the Right wing attacks, impeachment, Ken Starr investigation but they have endured and triumphed. The Clintons have always left their naysayers in the dust. If this is how a party repays their only two term presidential couple since FDR, then i don't want to be a part of it any longer.

I think that Bill Clinton (as a superdelegate) will secretly vote for Obama…lol

So the delegates can switch their votes at will. This is yet another example of how America is NOT a REAL Democracy, and how our votes don't mean anything. The Will of the People loses out to the Will of the Big-Money Manipulators.

Obama will win the primary and the general election. Don't allow yourself to be fooled by the Clinton propoganda.

can't anyone see the big picture, hillarys going to have the super delegates and the pledged delegates to switch sides at the national convention.so why vote?it's her way or the highway.

So you dont' think the delagates really meant their vote for Obama? Are we to suggest that any decisions you could make as President are subject to twist with the political wind? This is total lack of respect for the voters.

I've come to realize that nothing is beneath Hillary Clinton.

Just because it is in accordance with the rules, doesn't mean it's ethical. Remember Hillary, according to the rules in the 1800s, you couldn't vote. It's time for this rule to change.

Hillary somehow believes that she is above the rules. Not only did she enter this race with a sense of entitlement, but she's been running as though she can make and break the rules as she pleases.

Yes they have the power to negate your vote and like it.

a respected deligate,voter or suppoter will not line behind some one that doesnt have conscince,whos;s not afraid to lie,a habitual lier for that matter,she;s a hipocreate,full of intrigues and events.pls go away no more deligates for the shameless what kind of leadership will some one like upper to the most powerful country on earth?

I am surprised Hillary hasn't offered to buy their votes. As far as I know.

who is Clinton's pastor — Is she a member of a church? Has anyone heartd that her former pastor was recently indicted ? where is this story?

Wow. Making a campaign strategy out of convincing state level delegates to vote against the primary results…this is going a little beyond the pale, I think. Talk about freaking disenfranchising the voters. I mean good god.

Her campaign has been calling delegates in Iowa and asking them to change their vote. A family member of mine is a delegate for Obama and he has received calls from the Clinton campaign. He has also received calls from the Obama campaign asking him to remain a delegate.

He won't switch and told the Clinton campaign their ethics are shady.

She is advising correctly. Considering the fact that Obama's radical affiliations have become public knowledge after many of the primaries. This is need to know information.

I personally know a lot of ex-obama supporters that would love to take back their primary votes and give them to HIllary.

Go away. PLEASE. Just go away.

The MEDIA is keeping this going- notice the interview was LAST WEDNESDAY. Gee, why is this coming up now?! Truly Hillary bashing and based on all of the petty comments below-it works. Media strokes the flames and everyone-Obama followers- is engulfed in rudeness and rage…

So, tell me, Mrs. Clinton. If you want the voters' voices of Florida, Mighican, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, etc. to be heard, why are you advocating that those voices be overruled with the shouts of a few elite delegates? If we're going to put it in the hands of the "independent judgement" of the delegates to decide this nomination, why the hell are we proceeding with holding primaries and collecting meaningless opinions of the electorate?

You disgust me.

I just can't stand this lady. It's like Bill Richardson said" They feel like they are entitiled to be in the white house". USA is not England where the Royal Dynast rules. We have what we call a presidental election in USA where we elect not reward our president. Her philosopy is if she can't win, no one else can.

The Clintons are fighting to the end Dems…..sorry to say, but there will be likely nothing left of your party….If Howard Dean had any control of this party, she would be severely pressured to step down. If this was any other candidate they would be campaigning for Obama…..And you thought the Kennedy's were powerful, not even sure JFK/RFK could get away with this……….

Some of you people disgust me - grow up already and stop being childish. Half you guys / gals don't know even know what you are talking about - and I am sure most of you were born in 1993!

unbelievable

National polls show that democratic voters are changing their minds (toward Hilary at the moment)..why shouldn't the delegates votes reflect that change?

Hillary Clinton disgusts me. FL and MI delegates should follow the percentages of the primaries, but pledged delegates can switch at the convention?

Let this be understood, Hillary is running for herself, not the United States of America. She should go practice her lying techniques about ducking sniper fire in Bosnia.

Can Hillary tell me why we have primaries and why delegates are split by number of votes won in congressional districts? I guess for Hillary "Desperado" Clinton we shouldn't have primaries… just campaign for delegate votes in Denver. "It's the campaign, Stupid!"

Lies, entitlement, rule changing…there is no hope with a personallity so flawed and full of contempt…she needs to remember that every "dog" has it day and if she continues, hers will be a very unfortunate one…she is doing and being that which says so loudly bush is/has done…

People you can stop this madness. Not the Super delegates. you the people can stop all this right now. show clinton that it's over and vote her out in this upcoming primary. then we can get on with it for november.

why would anyone want someone so unfair for a president. she is trying to change all the rules, from FL to MI now with the delegates that the people vote in.

don't talk about Obama's integrity when you don't have any to show the people. come on America get smart.

Will the dishonesty ever stop? Hillary's supporters are defending this as well….WOW. I wonder if they teach their own children to lie and cheat??

As a 63 year old woman, I voted for Hillary. Not anymore!

McCain for '08

I'm not sure if this is a wise strategy on her part, because if pledged delegates are up for grabs, then it seems like the convention would be more like a caucus, and everyone seems to acknowledge that caucuses favor Obama.

This really bothers me. What is the point of the people voting if the person running can change anything to win. I would really like to know how that is democratic. The DNC better look long and hard at how this primary was set up, to make sure it never happens again. Any more stunts and I too will vot for McSame, just because the RNC right now looks at least organized.

This type of "dirty politics" are the very reason Hillary needs to leave the race. If she cannot win the nomination, she will make sure the democrats have no chance to win in November. The fact that she is willing to do anything necessary to win (lie, cheat, and steal) disgusts me. Time the DNC steps in and ends this by sending the Clintons packing.

I know 2 people that voted for Obama that wish they didn't(not a very good job of doing their homework) I wonder how many more are out there? Could be a good thing in the long run.

Hey HILLARY!
You can say this everydau for the rest of your life and it will NOT make us forget;

Snipers

Taxes

Donor List

Ear Marks

Lies

I could go on all day.

A FOCUSED and EDUCATED VOTER!

The truly disturbing aspect of this is that Mrs. Clinton vacillates on the issues of what matters and what doesn't and what counts and what doesn't every time she feels she needs to leverage her statistical disadvantage.

When Obama wins small states she says they don't matter; when he wins big states she says it's the delegate counts that matter; when he wins people from her base they become "the latte drinking crowd" and when he wins blue collar votes it's characterized be her and her camp as minority support.

This really disgusts me beyond reproach.

If I were head of the DNC, after witnessing all of these tactics and then hearing her float this position I would do everything in my power to get the delegation to push her out once and for all. In my book she is worthy of a post as DHH Secretary at best. I've truly had enough of her and her clan.

I agree with Anon, "they must be cooking something up." I feel they may have some information that they plan to release and are making sure delegates are aware when it happens they can vote for Clinton.

As a voter, I still think that Michigan and Florida should still count, and I think this is one of the reasons why Obama is leading with the delegate count, no wonder why the Obama camp is not pursuing a re-vote. Even if he wins the nomination, I won't consider it a win, because the two states where left out, i just don't think it's fair. Now if there's a re-vote and if he wins both, I will accept his nomination because all states had their say. Thank you.

Further proof to a long list of things that clearly show the Clintons are not trustworthy. If they steal this nomination it will be the biggest victory for the Republicans in history because so many will stay home.

Barack has some issues himself, but it isn't close to compared to the baggage and dishonesty Hillary would drag with her into the election.

She is a NASTY MONSTER and that's the TRUTH!

she is a lier

and she will not get any respect from me…she is not in this race for the people she is in it for herself

OBAMA 08

Let us not disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan but let us try to disenfranchise the voters that voted of Obama. The Democratic Party leadership needs to step in, now, fast.

Hillary,enough is enough.You are leaving a big mess behind.

I am astounded at how far Sen Clinton has slipped in my eyes since I cast my vote in the NY primary. At that time, I would have been happy with either candidate– not so much anymore. Now, I can see why people have always called her "divisive". If she will lie about "Bosnia" why do I think she will tell the truth as Commander-in-Chief? If she will steal my vote from another candidate, why do I think she'll be any different as President?

Enough already Mrs. Clinton. Can't you see you are only separating the Democratic Party and making it easier for McCain in November. Stop being so selfish.

I'm shocked Hillary is being so selfish. I used to really respect her and I'm a true blue democrat, but if Hillary wins the nomination by stealing pledged delegates (or other kinds of cheating) I'm going to stay home in Nov.

seriously?! she's got to be kidding!

on second thought, i shouldn't be surprised at all. this is the same old change-the-rules-in-the middle-of-the-game ploy that she's good at.

This is just a prelude to the fact that the Clintons are working hard to take delegates from the Obama camp, stealing like a thief in the night. The writing is on the wall, just like her trip to Bosnia, she forgot about, how convient.

Watch this witch at what she does, trying to steal her way to the general elections.

Won't do her any good, no matter what she does, Obama will win, becasue he will do the same to her!

You are all whinning about this issue . What about the voters from Florida? Have our voices been heard? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Have all of you forgotten about Rev. Wright? How do think Obama is going to win having this problem hanging over his head? He will not win against McCain.

This argument is totally contradictory to her other one that the voices of the people in Florida and Michigan should be heard.

I can't decide if the fact that many people still can't see through her and still support this woman makes me laugh or cry.

Ummm Hillary…that means that delegates that pledged for YOU can switch over to Obama!!!

Of course they are up fro grabs… look at the choices… they are hoping maybe Joe Biden will come back… or hoping to amend our constitution to give Bill another term…. ahhhh…

What a joke!

Hillary is right!!!

Most of those so-called pledged delgates that Obama has are from Republicans crossing over to vote for Obama. He hasn't won any state that is truly Democratic!!! He has only won Republican states!!!

John Mac, you have my vote.
I will rather vote for a republican than a cheater.
Guess who is the cheater.

Did Hillary "Misspeak" when she endorsed free elections?
Democrats are funny!

This woman is crazy.

So it is ok for Obama to have superdelegates support him when their states do not but not ok for Hillary to do this. Obama will do anything to win.

What in the world is this woman thinking? Is she saying,"If I cant win
by the rules, I will win anyway, because I will have the rules changed!
I hate hate blogs but I am very tempting to write one against her.

It is clear to me now that Sen. Clinton lies so much and so often that even she, believes her own lies.
Signs of a Sociopath, really.

When are the woman voting to put 'a woman at any cost' into the WH going to realize this woman is the wrong one… I don't want a liar and thief as my President….. I hope 'her' delegates switch to Obama. That would be the justice she deserves. She lacks morals.

Why is it that CNN (and other majore media) is glossying over CRH's lies and diverting attention back to the Rev. Wright issue. I was always taught that a sign of ture character was to tell the truth.

You seem to want to hide the fact that she lied and say "so what"! I don't understand.

Dream on lady, you are a piece of work.

Here we go again… blah…Blah…bLah…bLaH..

I don't understand this, and maybe some of the Hillary supporters can explain it:

How you can fight tooth and nail to defend the voters of Michigan and Florida, so their voters are not disenfranchised, then weeks later, fight for the pledged delegates that those votes are supposed to represent?

This just sounds like it's going to get really, really nasty. Al Gore and John Edwards should just endorse Obama, and try to put this all behind the Dem's.

like what most people already know, mrs. clinton and her surrogates will do everything to wrest away the nomination from sen. obama, by hook or by crook. to them, nothing is impossible as long as they get what they want. trustworthy they're not.

You go Hillary!

Take this all the way to the convention, and fight for it.
Lets see what all the delagates have to say.
Lets see who got the best shot.

Don't let fat cats like Bill Richardson get you down.

I'm literally disgusted by Senator Clinton.

For over 20 years I have been a supporter of she and Bill beginning with my days in Hot Springs, AR. I have tried throughout this primary to give her the benefit of the doubt however I am convinced she is just as despicable as the media, the Republicans, the world leaders and the general public believes.

Although I will not vote for Obama or McCain, I'm moved to withdraw my support for Senator Clinton going forward. I know that doesn't mean much to the people on this board but for me this is heart-breaking.

Hillary I am very disappointed.

bella get a life…we do not need a liar and thief in our whitehouse

Thank you Hillary, you have finally given those poor unfortunate delegates that supported you the chance to rethink their position and switch over to Barack.

Now, instead of just hinting that, just outright tell your supporters to go over to Barack's side and you can go home with whatever reputation you still have more or less intact.

Senator Clinton has gone on record urging that Florida and Michigan voices be heard…that their voices count. And now she's suggesting that the millions of votes in this country during primaries shouldn't actually count. SHE IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK.

Oh please forgive me, she's not suggesting that. She is only saying that legally they don't have to. Yeah, right.

How disgusting is this?

Hillary, I hope you look back on this in a few years and are ashamed at the way youve been acting.

Its very childish, and Americans are sick of the old style political games you play.

. . . .Good. Now I can cast my vote for Senator Obama.

She may be entirely correct on this issue, but remember, if one of "her" delegates should switch her staff will condemn them for being a Judas. I think she really means that only Obama delegates can switch….were hers to switch it would be overt evidence of bias against her. "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much"

Hillary is a public person and wants to run our country, well she needs to stop lieing and she should have taught her daughter not to be rude in public and she has a man that cheats wow what a family, wake up america is this what you want to run our country . I THINK NOT

I guess only big dem states really matter. Funny how every other state doesn't matter. She won CA while john edwards was on the ballot. She didn't fully win TX she won by 100k votes but lost the caucus. But out of the 42 states she has only won 14 states. So I guess she should be President?

Oh yeah…take the delegates away from the other states and tell them to switch…even if you lost all those states….Good luck

I have to say, the Press, to some extent is not helping. They don't give Sen. Obama, the obvious front-runner, the coverage deserving of someone in that position.
Why is it HRC's lies and obvious distortion of her experience isn't more publicized?

Whats sad is that people are not seeing her as she really is,

" I will win at any cost!!"

FACT
I she wins the nomination, I do not care how.
She will never be PRESIDENT.
McSame will win for sure.

I was taught that the delagates had to vote their state voted winner, for the first go round. If there has to be another round at the convention (i.e. no winner) they could do whatever they wanted. What the heck are Super-delagates and where did these come from? Why would THEIR vote weigh more than a delegate? Our country was founded on EQUAL rights, and the will of the people. The last elections have been NOT at all what the PEOPLE voted.

Please, PLEASE, Superdelegates, stop this craziness NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh put a sock in it Bella–find me a candidate that can eloquently explain race and support a minister who is not mainstream without falling into his political views. Barack Obama is the bravest man in the United States–and very deserving of the nomination indeed. McCain was endorsed by Bush, possibly the biggest hit to his campaign ha, and Clinton is a manipulative patho. You decide who you would vote for.

Hinting that she will win the nomination with super delegates and not popular vote does not do her credit.

If this had been a fair, rather than a rigged primary, Hillary would have already won.

How can anyone consider Obama ahead when the votes in Florida and Michigan are not allowed to count? They would switch the scenario entirely. Just because you don't count the votes doesn't mean that they don't exist.

Spew rules are rules all you want, but those people want Hillary. NOT counting them, gives Obama the nomination. That is not the same as him winning the nomination. Millions of people who want to say NO to Obama and YES to Clinton are being silenced.

Winning by suppressing the votes of you opponent is NOT winning- even if you get help in doing so from the corrupt actions of the DNC.

She is absolutely making an effort to change delegates minds. I was an Obama delegate to my county convention and oddly I received a mailer from Clinton two days prior. I have never visited her site or received any other material from her until that day. It's her shady tactics that confirm she is the same old power hungry Washington politician.

So much for the people's voices being heard.

Ruslyn, do you recall that Richardson is going with the people of his state!!!!

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

GO Hillary!!!

Wow. I never thought I'd hear a politician come out and announce that "Your votes don't matter." For all her talk about "disenfranchisement" of Florida and Michigan wouldn't this be a greater offense? Wake up people. Hillary would rather have McCain win this November than Obama so she can run against him in 2012. This isn't about the future of the country for her, it's about ego and legacy. But then again, what's new with the Clintons??

She will try anything to get what she wants. Her supporter, Carville, said the other day that not letting the Michigan and Florida delegates be seated is like leaving three minutes out of a forty minute ballgame. He doesn't seem to worry about starting a ballgame and changing the rules thirty-seven minutes into the game. She is the same way. She wants to change the rules as she goes along to get the Presidential nomination. Hopefully Americans can see her for what she is.

Hillary is desperate!!!!!

America is Pro-Change

Go Home Hillary Liar Clinton!!!

OBAMA is the Man!!!!

OBAMA 2008!!

Hillary has lost appeal in Piitsbugh where I live. People are fed up with her negativity and hypotheticals about how the DNC rules work. She may just get a surprise in Pennsylvania and not one she expects. Then it will be clear that she is a loser and one who relies on casting doubts to gain votes. This is backfiring and the primary is still 4 weeks away.

Why do Dems even hold primaries/caucuses if the delegates can do whatever they want? It seems like voters don't even count.

Can't have it both ways, Hilldog. Either delegates vote with the constituency as you've "always said" (Hillary code for I'm lying) or they are free agents. You represent the worst in the human race much less the race for the White House. Cheatin', lyin', manipulatin', back-stabbin', opportunistic fraud.

Clinton has just pointed out the rules. Why all the negative comments about it? Democrats decided these rules. The total delegate counts would be quite different if it were a winner take all system like the Republican primaries. Frankly once Edwards bowed out I paid more attention to both Clinton and Obama. Niether inspires much confidence in me.

Not worried. The DNC knows that with all her past and present scandals subject to be aired by Republicans..they know Obama would have a better shot at the General.. Think about it.. do you know how much stuff the Obama camp is holding back just so they wont give Ammo to Reps?Does anyone even realize how many scandals and gates they've been in?..do your homework

Here's the thing. Pledged delegates are elected to represent their district.While it's not outside the rules to switch sides, an elected delegate who wants to do so should do the right and responsible thing and contact all the people in the district to make sure they have changed their minds and want to change their votes as well. Otherwise, why vote at all? Pledged delegates represent others. Whether they are pledged to Obama or to Hillary, they have a responsibility to those they represent.

The absolute nightmare in this whole thing is the DNC by their do nothing policy is electing McCain.

I say just shut down the primaries, don't even bother with the NOV election and have the swearing in ceremony for McCain .

DNC == The Party of Apathy Who eat their own young

Some people are so dumb, yet think they are educated people. The delegates can support whomever they choose, there job is to attempt to insure the open primarys are not controled by cross over voters who will cross back in November. Hillary is no fool, she must be getting encouragement from alot of them to continue to fight on. Remember, Obama has yet to win an all important state. That is not to infer those states don't count, it is a matter of politics. Some states always vote for a republican in the general election. It is a long time pattern, thus they are called red states in the general scheme of things. How many blue states has Obama won? The law of average says, if he is the nominee he will not be the president. The superdelegates want to win in November, as much as we want our specific candidate to be the nominee. Think of the overall picture and you will know why she is still in the race.

Hilary is so stupid,now she's saying that the people voted for obama will go toward her?People are going to see that and go away from her

If Americans hate Hillary and don't want her to run- then why is the race at 50/50?

Count the disenfranchised voters of Florida and Michigan and Hillary would have far more than 50%.

Even with the newbies, independents and crossover republicans on his side, Obama can command only 50% of the vote.

Even with Oprah, the media bias, the Kennedys, Kerry, the Shrivers, the democratic party elite, Dean and the DNC ALL pushing to install his as the party nominee, Obama can't rally more than 50% support.

If all those things were stacked in Hillary's favor instead- she'd be way out in front. As ist is, She is holding her own against all the odds- including disenfranchising her electorate and the democratic base.

No nominee can win by disenfranchising the democratic base- the lifelong party faithful- the people essential to a NOV win.

This is the number one reason people should run away screaming from Hillary Clinton. She is suggesting the end of our democratic process - she is suggesting the removal of the voice of the people. She is suggesting that somehow the people in power know better than the everyday people, which I might add is in direct opposition to what she stands and claims to be a major part of her platform - standing up for everyday people. There is no truth in her!

This isn't really surprising. After all, I've been hearing numerous stories from Obama delegates in Texas about receiving robo-calls from the Hillary campaign, asking them for their support at the upcoming conventions. I heard plenty of the same stuff out of Nevada a few weeks back.

Hillary and her campaign have been absolutely disgusting. She's running a Republican-style campaign and she seemingly has little concern that she's potentially ruining the Democrats' chances in November and potentially burning the party to the ground if she manages to pull off a win via shady means.

wonder what they did with the stuff they stole from Whitehouse when they left?

Hillary cares about no one !! she is on her own agenda and will not stop!! she lies with such confidence which is very scary. My mother always says a liar is worst than a thief!!

Enough is Enough Hillary !!!

Per usual, the Obama fanatics are ready to viciously attack Hillary and her supporters. If you saw the Gallup poll today about the 37% of Clinton's supporters who will vote for McCain, you would realize your Boy has a problem. The Super delegates have to carefully think out their chose. The Rev. Wright Problem is not going to go away, the Rebublicans will see to it that it stays in the public's mind all the time.

Hillary wants EVERY vote to count (if you believe her Florida and Michigan rhetoric) … but ONLY if that vote is for her.

We're looking at someone who is TELLING YOU how to vote and is deliberately trying to undermine the democratic system of her own party.

We're looking at someone who would become a MONARCH if she thought she manage it!

All hail Queen Clinton!

The latest spin of Lady Macbeth ! Steal Obama's pledged delegates. I have to say that the lady is not running out of ideas, besides running under snipper fire in Bosnia.

Both campaigns are well-aware of DNC rules. Each campaign will try to use the rules to maximum benefit. I don't think there is a problem with that. The problem is perception. No campaign wants to appear to ignore voter wishes. As evidenced by the responses here and in media blogs, the appearance of disregarding the individual voter can really backfire. I am quite sure the Clinton campaign isn't happy they have to go down this road, but they must feel they have no other choice. To me, the Clinton campaign is giving the impression of desperation. It seems that they are floating trial balloon after trial balloon to see if they can get anything to stick. In my opinion they are trying to play out the clock in the hopes that Obama's campaign will make a blunder. Unfortunately, playing out the clock helps the Republicans. I don't think it fair to criticize Clinton for playing hard, as long as it is within the rules. I do think the Clinton campaign needs to start considering the impact of their strategy on the party's future.

Hillary is truely a fighter and she doesn't mind hitting below the belt. Some woman can handle power, but I believe that Hillary is a woman that will abuse power. As long as things are going her way she is as sweet as pie, very diplomatic and very presidential. But when she is pressured she reveals her ugly side and she acts without thinking. It's not just that you win the race that counts, but it's how you win the race. The presidential race for Hillary is not about her love for this country, like she stated with her eyes full of tears, this is personal.

And the MEDIA keeps this going too! Of ALL of the stories to cover- comparing McCain and Hillary's economic speeches and policies, comparing records- ANY thing…they keep this going-from an interview LAST WEDNESDAY-to keep people posting petty rude blogs as will surely follow…

I've had enough of this talk from the Clinton campaign. First she complains that if Florida and Michigan don't get revotes, that it disenfranchises those voters. I happen to agree with this, since it wasn't the citizens' choice to move their primaries, but rather the legislatures'. Now she says that the "pledged" delegates can switch allegiances. As a voter in a state that has already had a primary, I'd feel pretty disenfranchised myself if the delegate I helped chose decided on their own to switch to the other candidate. I don't care if the party rules allow this or not; the voters spoke, and the delegates should listen.

Hillary, it's time to go away. Maybe in a few years, it will be your turn. But for now, quit trying to come up with all of these different ways that you can try to steal this election. This is exactly why I'm not one of your supporters. It's more of the same Washington politics. Not this year, not this time. It's time to change the tone of the political system in this country.

This feud began more than a year ago on the very topic of Clinton dishonesty, in the form of David Geffen's comment. "All politicians lie, but the ease in which the Clintons do it is esspecially troubling." Why is it that CNN can't speak the word "lie". Why are you instead using much euphemisms like "misspoke", "exagerated", "mistakenly" or "misrembered"? All the while, you minimizing the importance of the story compared to Rev. Wright. Why not just give that hack, Lanny Davis an anchor slot?

Clinton is only indicating the facts. Delegates can switch their allegiance, particularly if circumstances arise that would cause them to do so - ie, revelations about one of the candidates that changes the delegate's perception of their suitability for the presidency or their electability.
When Clinton brings up facts that support her prospects in the campaign, she is hastily criticized and called all kinds of names. When Obama takes actions that support his prospects - such as his opposition to any revotes in Michigan or Florida because they would not be favorable to his candidacy - nobody says anything.

What's the point of setting or having "rules?" The Dems in Florida and Michigan broke their own rules when they changed the dates for their primaries….but since things haven't gone Hillary's way during this campaign the rules everyone agreed on should be broken.

As I understand it, the delegates are pledged to represent the wishes of the voters in their state by standing up for the candidate the voters picked through their votes. Once again, since things haven't been going Hillary's way it's okay to change the rules so that they might favor her.

What a great example our "leaders" set. It's no wonder our children use the exact same reasons and excuses on us. Hey look - a red light! That means everyone else has to stop, not me…..

To all those saying she's not following the rules, actually take a look at the rules. Pledged delegates are not bound in any way from making an independentally informed judgement.

And to thoseObama supporters who think she's being undemocratic, let's talk about those revites in Michigan and Florida. Oh wait, they didn't happen because the Obama dragged its feet and whined rather than giving the people of those two states a voice in the process.

Go Hillary texas loves you…obama can't even wear our flag..he lies….speeches don't get get you anywhere…..he through his own grandmother under the bus stating typical white girl…that was so rude….he needs to get while he can…

Hillary is like the ref from the NBA. Gamble on the game which you are calling, disqualify their best player and hope you don't get caught in the end. He got caught and Hillary will get caught. I thought she was like the Giants but it seems like she is like the Patroits of 08. Cheat to win and win to continue on cheating.

You go Hillary. NOW go home.

I dont get it.
If thats the case then doesnt it disenfranchise the voter in said state if the delegate flips?
Whats the point of voting if it doesnt matter and they can change to whomever they choose?
Doesnt she support counting all the votes like when she talks about MI and FL?
Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

Clear Thinker asks: "If Americans hate Hillary and don't want her to run- then why is the race at 50/50?"

This is primarily due to Hillary cashing in on the DUMB VOTE. Anybody with half a brain and can remember at least 2 months of this primary's history knows well that this Woman is saying anything and everything to get elected. Exaggerations, out-and-out lies, misinformation, spin…you name it.

Please "Clear Thinker", open up your eyes and see this woman for the swindler she is.

Why don't we just not bother having a goddam election at all!…This woman needs to stop bending all the rules…I can't be the only one totally fed up with her tactics…I used to support her but all have left for her is contempt…I'm tired of the LIES (no, not misstatements), the sheer desperation, the party being ripped apart and the mud that she throws around every day…I just want this woman to get off my tv, internet, newspaper and anywhere else that shows her sorry face.

I'm not surprised by Her remarks, Hillary has no loyalty and flip flops every second so it's no wonder she would expect everyone to do the same.

Obama '08

Then what's the need for primaries and caucuses? Just place the delegates in a room and that them choose on their own.

I guess the Clinton campaign thinks representative democracy is overrated.

Playing the gender card, the race card, the victim card, exaggerating, lying, distorting, mudslinging, crying….and now STEALING. When is Howard Dean and the DNC going to stop rolling over for Hillary and put an end to the Clinton's arrogance and selfishness??

The superdelegates should be ashamed of themselves. You can end this nonsense right now, vote Obama as your canditate and start planning for the general election. You are as much responsible for every nail Miss Clinton drives in the coffin of your own party. Why are they so scared of her. The superdelegates really are like cheap workers.

Well Hillary sounds like you have a brilliant plan for success:

1. Lose elections
2. Mismanage campaign till it goes broke
3. Cry
4. Delegates feel bad - hand you nomination

And you already have the first 3 steps done!

Is Hillary not allowed to talk about the rules pertaining to delegates? Give it a break. Hillary sneezes and she is accused of trying to infect all the obama supporters. Thats how stupid this whole thing has gotten.

Hillary Clinton should tell us atea with a few old ladies in Ireland brokered peace …ha!

Please go to today's GALLUP POLL for info on which candidate needs who in the Fall…..28% of Hillary's supporters will VOTE McCAIN in the Fall….Obama has a huge problem, on top of his other electibility problems…

She is right.

My uncle is a pledged delegate. After hear Obama's speech about race, he decided to switch his vote to Hillary. He said the reason is Obama's 20 years tie with that anti-America church makes Obama not qulified to be any public official. Also, instead of addressing the public the questionable relationship between him and his pastor, he enlarged the question to race and try to make Americans agree with him. If he admits his mistake and last 20 years was a mistake, my uncle would keep his vote, but Obama didn't.

Finally, voting for Obama for president is liking rolling a dice. It's dangerous for America. Too many red flags.

To Spirit of American and any other HRC supporters…wake up to reality. HRC will never win in November. She has 48 - 51% of American voters saying they will NEVER vote for her. And, this was BEFORE the darling of the independents, John McCain, became the nominee. No red state will turn blue with HRC and some blue states may turn red, like PA, MI, WI, and MN. Look at the electoral map from 2000 and 2004 with an objective eye and you will agree.

Should have read….Richardson is going against the vote of the people of his state!!!!

Please Hillary stop destroying the party with the attitude If I cant win the nomination I will destroy the party instead. IF ANY DELEGATES CHANGE IT WILL BE YOURS TO OBAMA. Your childish behavior is unbecoming and I will be pissed if the nomination goes to you when Obama is clearly in the lead with pldged delegates popular vote and more states won even those states you say dont count.

Obama 08
Austin Texas

Of course the Obama campaign is complaining. What don't they complain about? The fact is that what she is saying is the truth. What if, say the leading candidate is indicted of a serious crime just weeks before the convention? Are we to believe for a second that the pledge delegates are bound in some way to stay with that indicted candidate? The very fact that Obama and his campaign is so thin skinned shows me that this man is no where near ready to accept the responsibilities of our countries highest office. He keeps saying that he plays by the rules, but rejects any rule that doesn't benefit him in some way. Where is the new kind of politician that will bring change? He is doing exactly what she is doing, anything to win.

Please go look at todays Gallup Poll for who needs who in the fall…OBAMA HAS A HUGE PROBLEM…..

Her point is that this is the rule of the game. Deal with it.

Caucauses are not going to be used in the general election, and they are not representative of the general election (unlike primaries) but yet they are counted for democratic nominations. This rule benefits Obama because the people that vote for him can sit at caucauses half a day (in some cases a whole day). What about people that vote ahead of time, older people, people that have to work???? How is this representative of the general election? This caucus "advantage" is going to be moot in the general election.

Superdelegates John Kerry, Bill Richardson and Ted Kennedy's states all went to Hillary yet they are back Obama against their constituents. So no superdelegates don't have to vote the way their constituent votes. Period. I have yet to hear a formidable argument against this point.

Instead of just listening to speeches, Obama supporters, why don't you think before reacting like irrational children? This is the rule of the game, which like it or not, is the way it is unless the rules are changed mid way. If Obama wins with these rules. That's great I will support him because I am a democrat and want the war to end, etc. (I also don't understand people that say if Hillary or Obama won, they would vote McCain… this makes no sense people! If you are voting on this logic, please stay at home)

Wow its amazing how well these bots follow there great leaders advise of hope and change. and that so called great speech many must not of really heard it . The change wasnt for many of your dypers.
Obama must be so proud of what the Union he has created

So, at 3:01 am - "I made a mistake, I'm only human" as the world is blown up. I can't see how any woman could have supported the bombing, maiming and destruction of thousands of families - "it takes a village"

I don't want to hear Hillary Clinton talk about making every vote count anymore. She doesn't respect the primary system. Out of one side of her mouth, she wants revotes in Michigan and Florida–seemingly because she believes she can get more pledged delegates out of those states. Then, out of the other side of her mouth, she is telling the pledged delegates they don't have to vote for the candidate they were elected to select at the convention. She can't have it both ways. Either the primary votes mean something, or they don't.

Suppress the Clinton votes and still SHE has 50% of the votes.

Then let's pretend that Obama is winning- with just 50% of the votes- and none of his voters disenfranchised.

Then let's pretend IF he gets the nomination that he won it, rather than stole it.

Then all of us lifelong democrats who have been disenfranchised or watched our fellow democrats be disenfranchised by our own party and the DNC, lets all vote for Obama ANYway- just out of party loyalty.

Even though we don't think he is the best candidate and even though we recoil at rigged elections.

Its funny that all the attacks on here are against Clinton. ITS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that set up this ridiculous system, so why don't you spew the hate in their direction and get rid of the superdelegate mess altogether. The Democratic Party somehow feels that people in its own party aren't smart enough to vote for the "right" candidate. I find it hilarious though that everyone says that the superdelegates must vote how the people vote, but Bill Richardson (NM went to Clinton) is okay in pledging his support to Obama…

It doesn't matter either way, the Democratic Party is ripping itself apart so it makes no difference whether you support Clinton or Obama. John McCain is going to be the next President. The Democrats could very well destroy themselves completely this year, unless they get their act together. I don't see it happening.

If the Democrats do survive this mess, you can probably guarantee they won't see the White House for another 20 years or so.

Well, here we go. The voters have taken the time to respond to the candidates by voting in primarys and caucuses. The results have been counted, and delagates awarded by the percentages of the vote.Now Hillary Clinton states that the citizens of AMERICA are full of it and there are better people out there that should change there fellow citizens votes, just forget that the people have spoken, and vote her in as the nominee. Get Real if we as citizens, cant have our vote counted then why even get involved. I am livid

Shameless.

Why should anyone vote for Hillary? Tell me!!!

Hillary will get the nomination, because barack can't carry big states, against her let alone mccain. The DNC recognizes this, and they know with him on the ticket they will lose the white house.

I cannot support a clinton, nothing but smoke,mirrors,lies & BS AND trying to redefine the dictionary, misspoke=lie.

Early delegates will have had several more months to examine the candidates. They should make up their minds on the convention floor.

She claims her years in the White House qualify her to run the country. Well I do believe the White House gardener, chef, maid all have been there longer so they are just as if not more qualified.

How much stupider can this woman gets? So ok Hillary if the pledge delegates are not bound to their candidate, I guess all the pledge delegates for you should just switch to Obama so he'll have enough delegates for the nomination and end this madness that you've started. You're not thinking of it that way ah! I forget, you've been fighting so dirty and nasty for so long it's making you senseless!! Give it up Billary you're fighting a losing battle, the clinton regime has come to an end. TALK ABOUT THE AUDACITY OF HOPELESSNESS!!!!!!

Get out now!!! PLEASE. Take Bill and Chelsea and just go home to NY. PLEASE!!!

CNN - I guess my conment on Delegates made to much sense so you took it out. I don't know who is worse the DNC or CNN.

I would hope the upcoming voters would use common sense and put this primary to rest. Any other candidate would have been asked to step aside…where is dean, where are gore, and the other superdelegates…Bill Clinton himself should be telling her it's over. This has got to be pulling at straws.

Hillary you are so over!

clear thinker…your entire argument is based on a fallacy. The race isn't 50/50. Obama is ahead, hence the delegate count and the popular vote count and the states won count.

but you support Hillary and can bend the truth to make your argument look better. Like is like huh?

It bothers me to see that Palosi, Dean and Gore are just sitting back letting this lady tear up the Democratic Party. I mean with all the lies, the changing of positions, refusal to release taxes and now trying to get committed delegates to change sides, this has to be the worse politician that I have ever seen. The mere fact that she fabricated a lie about her Bosnia visit is enough for me not to vote for her let alone all of the new things that we are founding out now. Ex. Lies about NAFTA, lies about bringing peace to Kosovo, Vote for Iraq war and now trying to pull troops and the planted questions early in the WH race.

If this was party vs. party, this kind of tactic would be somewhat stomachable, but this is just SAD. At this rate, the Democratic party will be condemned. I understand that she is upset that Bill Richardson jumped ship (of his own accord), so she is trying to encourage others to sway her way. The problem is, at the end of the day because of all of the devisiveness the party is going to split in a way that no Democrat could ever win the election. I caution BOTH sides to be careful at this stage of the game. It can do no good for the Democratic party.

Obama Get on the phone and get some of her delegates!

Sharon,

Obama sure doesn't need Hillary.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Bottom Line…….She will destroy the Democratic Party…..I hope that she is happy……

So…after campaigning so much for the voices of Florida and Michagan to be heard (also note that she ignored Michigan until Florida said it couldn't vote, then she was on a plane and over in MI faster than a rat leaving a ship) now she is saying the voices of the voters DON'T matter?

Which is it? The people or the delegates?

It sounds like Clinton and her people are happily saying that we don't live in a democracy… She is saying that our votes don't matter and that the "pledged delegates" can do whatever they want despite the outcomes of the elections.

This rule needs to be changed. Who decided that the people should not elect our candidates? And why is Hillary championing this line of thinking?

Apparently, Clinton is no longer concealing her dislike for the democratic process and is hoping that she can reshape the rules of our elections in a way that disenfranchises the majority in order to cement the groundwork for her rule.

She has no chance of winning at this point with the power of the people. She has already lost that race! He only hope now is to try to get party insiders to overturn the will of the people.

ALL YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS OUT THERE — Do you like Democracy or Clinton more? Should we do away with the primary elections and just let party insiders choose our candidates like they did a century ago? Its about time for Clinton's supporters to have a reality check and get behind democracy before their favorite candidate of the moment.

Obama has won the popular vote, has more delegates, and has won almost twice as many states. I he is not the nominee, it will be a stain on our Democracy!

Hillary is cooking up more lies. She is readying herself to cheat!!!!!

How anyone can defend Hillary on this amazes me. Obviously to her anyone that votes against her doesn't have the right to have that vote counted. Stating that an election where her name is the only one on the ballot is "fair" combined with her trying to overturn the will of those who already voted makes me question her commitment to democracy. The arrogant and self-entitiled woman doesn't care about democracy, the democratic party, or the United States of America. She only cares about getting back to the White House. How anyone supports this is beyond me.

I believe people are missing the point Senator Clinton is making about the delegates freedom of choice. Basically I read her words as telling everyone not only is it up to them but she herself is NOT controlling their thinking mind and won't. I don't think she is cooking up anything. (Neither is Senator Obama by taking a vacation for that matter).
Some of the remarks here seem to read more like exerts from some old murder mystery with lists of suspicions being tossed out a the drop of a hat.

Hill desperation is a disease and it's seriously catching up with you. Humbly bow out of the race and let Obama unite the DNC party and carry you and your little supporters along else you will be shamed out of the race and the effect will be you losing the little political clout you've got for life. Changing the rules to suit you will not help matters.

It is absoutely disgusting that she keeps advocating this. I understand that she is doing this because it is the only way she can win the nomination. But, to tell pledged delegates that they should not support the candidate who was the choice of the voters that they are representing is beyong wrong!

Mrs. Clinton it is time to stop, it is time to withdrawal and let Senator Obama get on with the business of getting a Democrat into the White House. These kind of tactics are unthinkable to me and how anyone can support you after you advocating this I just don't understand.