March 26, 2008
Posted: 09:40 AM ET
Clinton said again that pledged delegates had no duty to vote based on election results.
Clinton said again that pledged delegates had no duty to vote based on election results.

(CNN) — For the second time in three days, Hillary Clinton has told reporters that the "pledged" delegates awarded based on vote totals in their state are not bound to abide by election results — an idea that has been floated by her or a campaign surrogate several times this month.

“…As you know so well, Mark, every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose,” she told Time’s Mark Halperin in an interview published Wednesday. “We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment.”

The remarks echoed her Monday comments to the editorial board of the Philadelphia Daily News. "And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged,” she said Monday. “You know there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They're just like superdelegates."

Clinton also made similar comments in a Newsweek interview published two weeks ago.

Earlier this month, Clinton adviser Harold Ickes first raised the prospect that pledged delegates were not legally bound to vote as election results indicate – an idea that has drawn sharp criticism from supporters of rival Barack Obama. "Despite repeated denials, the Clinton campaign has again admitted that they will go to any length to win," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said again Wednesday.

The Clinton campaign has said that they had not been planning to try to actively convince the Illinois senator's pledged delegates to switch sides, and would not do so in the future – but on a conference call with reporters Tuesday, Ickes defended Clinton’s Monday remarks and repeated his view that pledged delegates were free to switch their allegiance at any time.

“I think what Mrs. Clinton was trying to make clear was that no delegate is required by party rules to vote for the candidate for which they're pledged,” said Ickes. “I mean obviously circumstances can change, and people's minds can change about the viability of a particular candidate and that's permitted now under our rules ever since the 1980 convention.”

He added that although the rules permitted them to campaign pledged delegates to switch sides, they had not engaged in such an effort.

Barack Obama leads Clinton among all Democratic delegates, 1,622 to 1,485, in the latest CNN count. Among pledged delegates, Obama leads Clinton 1,413 to 1,242.

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


James   March 26th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

After three months of Hillary's campaign, I will never support her for president. Can you imagine what we would have to deal with each day if she was president.

Wanda Reed   March 26th, 2008 2:45 pm ET

It is so obivous how smart Hillary Clinton really is; she is just telling the people how the rules of the Democratic Party work. Most are not even smart enough to get it. This tells me that she would really know how to work "Washington" because she really does get it about everything.

Marcelin   March 26th, 2008 2:37 pm ET

Talk about overriding-will-of-the-people, do-anything-to-hang-on-to-power and put-oneself-more-than-the-party

phillip monterey, ca   March 26th, 2008 2:09 pm ET

I am an Obama supporter and I agree that the super delegates should vote according to their conscience and based on who is more electable in November. They should not blindly vote based on who wins most pledged delegates.

The reason we have Primary elections is to determine electability in November so guess what, Obama is proving that he is electable, which he has done against Ms. Clinton who was the presumptive nominee up until January. Hillary is the one who is unelectable. She couldnt even win the primaries, how can she win the General Elections. Besides she has the highest disapproval rating of any candidate. 45% of the electorate will never vote for HRC. So she only has a 55% electorate to work with. Both Obama and McCain have disapproval ratings of 26% and 27% respectively. Go figure who is more electable.

Democratic nomination was Hillary's to lose and she has lost it. How can anyone argue that she is more electable in Nov when she screwed up the primaries. It takes strategy and smarts to win elections… different strategies for primaries and general elections. Hillary has failed in the first test, and is now asking us to trust us with a bigger test in November. Obama is a once in a life time candidate who is winning against odds. And those of you who are calling him racist, you really belong in the other party. I am an Obama supporter but will never vote for Clinton, if she is our nominee i know its wrong but the way she carries herself is very distasteful.

Jo-Ann   March 26th, 2008 1:55 pm ET

Ok obviously a "Hillary bashing" blog"; I'm gone. You all get what you deserve.

yolanda Rollins   March 26th, 2008 1:54 pm ET

Hillary is a liar. Her whole campaign is negative.

thomasr@yahoo.com   March 26th, 2008 1:53 pm ET

Wow! And I thought she could never surprise me. Talk about trying to steal and election.

Patrick Era   March 26th, 2008 12:53 pm ET

Such stupid idea should not even be dignified with any serious response – either from Obama campaign or the DNC. It is a deaf mark of desperation. It is a shame – the Clintons must be living in another planet – it is that simple!!!

MOLLY   March 26th, 2008 12:46 pm ET

GO HILLARY !!!
Obama will never be elected with his radical, anti-American pastor who he will look to for advice and mentor . America will never allow it to happen – nor will the superdelegates – they want to WIN this election. The DNC has caused all these problems starting with FL & MI – votes!
IF Obama should ever win the nominee, I will be forced to vote Republican – I am NOT loyal to the party but am Loyal to America.

Ravi   March 26th, 2008 12:39 pm ET

It is disingenius of Hillary Clinton to make such a dramatic case against Barack Obama for disenfranchising voters in Florida and Michigan if she intends to disenfranchise the will of the entire country!

Frank in Missouri   March 26th, 2008 12:39 pm ET

Superdelegates: Get her out before the party implodes !!

Disappointed   March 26th, 2008 12:39 pm ET

Can you say desperate! She will disenfranchise the voters if she tries to steal the delegates. For a woman who tried to illegally make Florida and Michigan’s voter voices heard, she really is trying to take the voter’s votes away now in order to win. I am completely disgusted with Hillary Clinton

Marv...   March 26th, 2008 12:38 pm ET

Lie, steal and cheat. Wow. She is the idea candidate. What she is saying, not only will Florida and Michigan not count, but the expressed will of the other 48 states don't count either.

Anybody, but Hillary Clinton.

clinton muehlenbrock   March 26th, 2008 12:37 pm ET

Why would you vote for someone who wants pledged delegates to overturn the vote of american's? It makes no sense to me and Hillary supporters should be ashamed when they donate money to that campaign.

Alex H   March 26th, 2008 12:37 pm ET

The reason they aren't legally bound to that candidate is in case, like with John Edwards, their candidate drops out of the race, they can still be effective in the convention and not be a useless seat.

The rule is NOT supposed to be used to steal delegates away from their currently running candidate!

GROW SOME ETHICS!

Jim H.   March 26th, 2008 12:35 pm ET

There she goes again. If she can win by playing by the rules, then she tries to change the rules. The arogant, win at any cost attitude has got to stop or you might as well get used to President McCain.

Vjk   March 26th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

This is becoming dirty politics. Democratic party needs to reevaluate their agenda. I also hope that Gore stays out of this war.

Bella from Florida   March 26th, 2008 12:34 pm ET

Maybe the pollsters should start conducting polls again in Florida and
Michigan to see who the real winner is. Our votes were not counted ,but if they were who would be ahead in the delegate count? i believe it would be Hillary.The Obama campaign has opposed to a re-vote in both states what is he afraid of.? I think all the voters from Florida should demand a re-vote What are we waiting for?.

Rob,NC   March 26th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

I agree the so called pledge delegates should not change sides; however, we talk about the super delegates voting for the canidate with the largest popular vote. Why did John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and Bill Richardson not follow the will of the peope from their sates?

Char   March 26th, 2008 12:31 pm ET

Keep going Hillary! We know you are saving the party from being stuck with a no win ticket. It is no where near over and against all odds, I do see us having the very first women president in 2008. Hang in there and fight hard! Hillary 2008.

Karen   March 26th, 2008 12:30 pm ET

Of course, her argument cuts both ways. As her delegates see her more and more down in the gutter, they will select Obama who remains on the high road. People tend to want to go with the winner and not the whining loser.

Brendan   March 26th, 2008 12:28 pm ET

Did everyone forget that some of those pledge delegates went to people who have now dropped out of the race? Those delegates ARE up for grabs.

Tommy   March 26th, 2008 12:27 pm ET

How can Obama stand beside Gov Richardson and take his support
(vote) when Hillary won his state ( same for Kennedy and Kerry).
Then say super delegates should vote the way their states did???

Randolpho   March 26th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

to hillary: give me a break, sister. If you lose, take it honorably – you know, like a man.

Red October   March 26th, 2008 12:26 pm ET

wow, are you serious

Remocrat   March 26th, 2008 12:25 pm ET

What part of "Obama is not electable" don't you people understand.

Hillary at least has a chance.

Sean   March 26th, 2008 12:25 pm ET

What happened to the Hillary who was supposedly so concerned with the will of the people, and who was so concerned about the disenfranchisement of Michigan and Florida voters?

Just more evidence that Hillary's only real concern is Hillary. The will of the people only matters to her when it benefits her campaign. Just like when we hear quotes from before the Michigan and Florida primaries where HIllary says their votes don't matter….but after it's established that their votes could help her, they matter oh so much! How can anyone still support this lying, divisive, self-serving politician?

Mike, Kalamazoo, MI   March 26th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

What happened to her "democratic" appeals to count every vote in Florida and Michigan? And saying that she is staying in the race because voters in the remaining contests deserve to have their voices heard? I guess that is just when it benefits her — when it benefits Obama, it is up to the delegates whether or not they want to abide by the voters wishes.

David Bobkowski   March 26th, 2008 12:24 pm ET

Does anyone else recall how Ms. Clinton reacted in the 2000 general election when Mr.Bush lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote? She was absolutly adamant that this was a grave injustice, contrary to democratic ideals. She even suggested a total revamp of our electoral system. My, how her tune has changed for the 2008 primaries!

L.F.   March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Dorian Gray / HIllary Clinton has a concealed portrait somewhere. Hillary again rears her ugly demeanor and reveals her true self. Ambition at the cost of all honor, ethics and fair play. The victims will be America and our real democracy.

Tex   March 26th, 2008 12:22 pm ET

Hillary's campaign is in melt down mold.

Tommy   March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

How can Obama stand beside Gov Richardson and take his support
(vote) when Hillary won his state ( same for Kennedy and Kerry).
Then say super delegates should vote they way their states did???

JUDAS   March 26th, 2008 12:21 pm ET

. . . .Thief.

April Garlow   March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

Clinton is right , and the Democratic Party is responsible for this mess. I have known this for years. The party needs to do away with the delegates and caucuses,and change to an all Democrat primary, where one vote means one vote, just like the general election. But the delegates don't want to give up thier power to manipulate the results. So neither Clinton or Obama are hurting the Democratic Party. It has shot itself in the foot once again.

Marjon   March 26th, 2008 12:19 pm ET

I cannot believe somebody voting for this cheating woman!
She has no honest bone in her!

OBAMA'08!!

Mark, Berwyn PA   March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

People who continue to support Hillary are a joke, and are making the USA the laughingstock of the world community. My goodness people, get a clue! Hilary is trying desperately to steal this election, becuase she feels it is her right to be President. Forget the "will of the people", she just wants to title.
Go McCain or Obama or Nader. Anyone but Clinton!!!

Arina   March 26th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Anything to win, and given the fact that according to a Gallop poll many of her supporters will vote in November for MCCain, rather than Obama, shows that she attracts people just like her: they rather destroy the country than give in.

darron   March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

I thought the point of this election cycle was to correct the mistakes made in 2000, not repeat them by telling the Democrats again "you're vote doesn't count"

Suzanne   March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Something else I've been wondering about: If Hillary 'misspoke' about her expirience of sniper bullets wizzing over her head and running for cover, it must have been an actual experience that happened on a different trip. When was that? I know I would never forget such a tramatic expirience.

andrew   March 26th, 2008 12:14 pm ET

What a desaster for democrats for November. You call yourselves democrats, afraid to say it like it is.
She is behind if she can pull it off, she should be the nominee, and that's why she is doing the destruction now. She is good at it.

Super Delegates Would Do Well to Stay Out   March 26th, 2008 12:13 pm ET

Unless they want to lose the support of the base of the Democratic Party, the so called "super" delegates would do well to stay out of this until the primaries are over. They would also do well to do all they can to include the voters in Florida and MIchigan in the process.

Kathi   March 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

If Clinton continues to lie and wins the nomination for it, this life-long Democrat won't stay home and waste my vote–I will vote against her with a Republican vote–my vote will always count!

Tangerine   March 26th, 2008 12:12 pm ET

You want to see a social uproar? That is exactly what will happen if she cheats/steals votes from Obama. Just as Clinton has a lot of zealous supporters, so does Obama. How in the world does she think these people would react if she does what would be percieved as "stealing". How would Clinton supporters react if Obama did the same thing?

joe   March 26th, 2008 12:10 pm ET

why are people still conflating primaries with caucuses which are not representative of the general election. Please read my previous comment.

Po Win   March 26th, 2008 12:09 pm ET

Since the outcome of an election is ultimately governed by electoral votes, perhaps, the DNC could consider removing superdelegates and measure the likelihood of each contender by his and her electoral votes, respectively. The deeper ethical issues at hand could then be remedied by removing both super and pleged delegates alike.

GL   March 26th, 2008 12:08 pm ET

Hillary's let them eat cake attitude towards the Democratic party and the voters is disgusting. Gore, Edwards, Biden… At what point are any of you going to man up and put an end to this charade? It's a sad day in this country when Nader becomes the voice of reason.

Obamacan   March 26th, 2008 12:06 pm ET

National polls show that I will vote for McCain if a known liar is nominated by democrats.

Dave   March 26th, 2008 12:05 pm ET

I am an Obama pledged delegate to my Texas county convention. I have received two calls from the Hillary campaign asking for my support.

Nancy   March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

Currently we have a president that feels that electorate matters not one whit. I am appalled that Hillary feels the same. What is the point of taking the time to vote in a primary and then have one of the candidates say our votes are meaningless. I am weary of politicians constantly shifting the rules to suit themselves. If Hillary and McCain are my choices in the fall, I will not vote for the first time in my life. We need change. We need HOPE.

BVS Maine   March 26th, 2008 12:04 pm ET

Drop out Hillary, you are misleading the AMerican people and destroying the democratic party by being so self serving. You are so dishonest.

manuel figueiredo   March 26th, 2008 12:01 pm ET

Mrs. Hilary is not a lier. I think she has not moral character.

Bayou Joe   March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET

Obama Idiots, He is the one destroying the Democratic Party, not the Clintons. A two term President and his loyal wife have more guts than anyone of you. They are about America and you reject them. Bill Richardson is the worst of them. An ingrate, whose career was fostered by Bill and he repays them by endorsing the Orator. Good luck Bill you will need it after Obama loses in November.

ObamaVoter1Million   March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET

All I can say is Hillary and her team are sooooo wrong.

Nick   March 26th, 2008 11:59 am ET

If delegates are simply going to change their vote, what's the point in voting at all? Might as well just stay home on Election Day, and let some Gallup poll decide the future of the US.

What a disaster of a primary process. This whole system needs an overhaul.

Lori   March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET

Jen-Do you know what Polls are based off of? Research and find out. I don't pay much attention to polls because if there is a time when they don't mean much, it is in this race. Most of the polls end up being wrong, based off of past information or are slanted by the folks running them.

Candi South Carolina   March 26th, 2008 11:58 am ET

Hillary you skip all math courses in school. Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself. Why do you think the American People want you as President now? You have demonstrated that you can lie to us, confuse the Democratic Campaign and now try to chang the rules. I am not voting for someone who will go at any length to make the American People feel sorry for you. Your campaign for Solution is on how to sabotage the election to win.

Sher   March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET

And this is the woman who was so upset because the voices of the people in Florida and Michigan aren't going to be heard. Yet, now she's willing to mute the voices of ALL the people who have voted! What's the point of voting if our votes aren't going to count???

Rav   March 26th, 2008 11:57 am ET

This woman is going to rip this party to peices!!!!!! I may have to vote for Nader!

Jyh1920   March 26th, 2008 11:56 am ET

Hillary Clinton is a Shyster and a scallywag. You can almost bet she will take down the whole party toe win this nomination!

Florida and Michigan   March 26th, 2008 11:54 am ET

Richardson is not the last word in this campaign! Florida and Michigan are having their votes taken away – now that is stealing.

Hillary has no reason to "go away" – Obama is not the candidate of choice of all the people. This is going to play out whether anyone likes it or not – as it should be. I

David   March 26th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Yeah, to the leader of the vote count which is Obama. She has got to be tired, I know if I "lie" that much it is such a drain on my thinking. Yeah, it is very interesting to see how far this woman will go to win, a no-win situation. Seems to me she shares radical views with Malcolm Xs' "By Any Means, Necessary" philosophy…

Brendan   March 26th, 2008 11:53 am ET

What's the point of having primaries if the delegates can vote for whoever they want regardless? Why even campaign at this point? Why not just take Gallup polls of delegates and superdelegates and tell us who will be the nominee?

enomisa   March 26th, 2008 11:53 am ET

Hillary knows math.

She is aware millions of her votes have been thrown away- so the math is not representative of the true will of the democrats.

Aaron   March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET

Ohhh now it's the race is "pretty close" and not 50/50 like you said before. I guess you misspoke? Taking after your candidate quite a bit there…

And actually you are wrong again…Go look at the % Hillary won FL and MI by and how many delegates she would get and how many Obama would get. It would swing closer to 50/50, BUT Obama would still lead in pledged delegates, popular vote, and state count.

Did you even do that math or are you just spouting off at the mouth?

rrr   March 26th, 2008 11:52 am ET

Ive been saying for awhile now that Barack should just sit back and let this woman cook her own goose. I really cannot believe what I am reading here..Up until now I've been pretty civil with my comments, but the time has come to state the truth..HILLARY YOU ARE PATHETIC!

Kazeem, Texas   March 26th, 2008 11:50 am ET

Hillary is killing me!

Darth Vadik, CA   March 26th, 2008 11:50 am ET

Dream on Hillary, you want to come down to reality now or are you still dodging sniper fire?

Jack Robertson   March 26th, 2008 11:50 am ET

Hillary is like the proverbial spoiled playground brat. If she can't win the game by the rules, she'll try to change them or she'll pout and cry. With the race heating up by the day and the pressure mounting on Mrs. Clinton to face the music of her impending defeat, one must wonder when the public will be treated to another theatrical performance of crocodile tears. Go cry yourself a river, Hillary! It's over.

Mohammad, LA CA   March 26th, 2008 11:49 am ET

It's over. Democrats will lose the election. Look at how you guys hate Obama so much, or those who hate Clinton so much, you fail to see that the ultimate winner will be John Mccain, whom nobody hates.

Pathetic to the highest degree…good job democrats…

enomisa   March 26th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Hillary is right.
Thems the rules.
You all go on and on about playing by the rules.

Disenfranchise the democratic voters in FL and MI, and we will force the party to do their job and play by ALL the rules- not just those that favor Obama.

Ed K.   March 26th, 2008 11:48 am ET

After the Reverend Wright thing most voters would like to have their vote back. Looks like we need a do over in every state or it would be nice if Obama just dropped out. The Democratic party knows Obama can't win the general election but they will be afraid to nominate Hillary because the Black community would riot and burn the country. Looks like 4 more years of Bush rule.

Teresa   March 26th, 2008 11:48 am ET

Hillary's character continues to scream—"win at all costs"

Such lying, such arrogance!

Carl from Pa   March 26th, 2008 11:47 am ET

Ha. This, to me, is slightly funny. Hillary has, for the past few weeks, been trying to get the "voices' of Florida and Michigan to vote, however, from this comment it is clear, she does not care about the voters at all but rather the delegates. It is this sort of politics that discust the american people.

David S   March 26th, 2008 11:45 am ET

Hey HRC, if you don't think my vote counted in the primary……than don't count on my vote in the general election. I will stay home in Nov. if she steals this nomination.

J Radway   March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET

Oh Hillary, Hillary
If we make you Queen for a day
Will you pleeease go away?!

ben   March 26th, 2008 11:44 am ET

The party leadership needs to put a leash on this lady. She will do anything, even destroy the party, to win. She is doing it already; the divisiveness she is creating is only helping McCain.

Maybe that is her point – to hurt Obama so he loses, and so she can run again in 2012.

SIckening.

Johannes   March 26th, 2008 11:43 am ET

why have prelimaries at all then?

does she want to build up her future on brken promises?

I'm sure Obama does not want that!

Funny   March 26th, 2008 11:42 am ET

Youngsters don't get upset, Obama has Richardson ….delegate whose state supported Clinton, so by rights he should be on her side, Kennedy, Kerry, are a couple others same thing. So please know what you are talking before posting, Obama's camp has and was already doing this, even if its .000001% win the elected officials should vote the will of the people whom they represent. If they don't then could you ever trust the people you've elected to vote what you want…….me thinks there is a double standard here, and of course its ok with the Obama youngsters. I am an Indie and have no party affiliation but the more I will never vot for Obama.

Santiago   March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Richardson is a good example of super delegates making their own decision. His state, New Mexico, voted for Hillary but he supported Obama. Not too long ago he was talking about super delegates going with the vote of the district. Well, what about him going with the vote of his state.

Hillary is correct. Super delegates need to vote base on what they see which is Hillary winning in November or Obama been destroyed politically by the the Republican Party and loosing the election.

Daniel Stevens   March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET

Ya know I've been one of those independent voters supporting the heck out of Obama. I am reminded why I am not a member of the party. Holy buckets what a mess this is becoming!! No wonder we can't get a good person to run for president.

Ed   March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET

I don't understand all of this big talk about how Obama can't carry the big states. If you look at the total number of votes between the large states and compare those to the votes that McCain got in the same states then you will see that Obama got more votes compared to McCain and if you add at least 30% of Billary's votes to that I don't see why he can't win. In California Billary got 2,608,184 votes and Obama 2,186,662. In the same state McCain got 1, 238,988 votes so alone Obama has more votes than McCain and if he can pull 30% of Billary's vote than "Yes He Can" win large states and win them handedly.

South Beach   March 26th, 2008 11:41 am ET

If Senator Richardson, a Superdelegate endorsed Obama despite the fact that he previously said Superdelegates need to vote the way their state votes — in Richardson's case (New Mexico) for Hillary, then the Delegates are up for grabs. Richardson started it.

Donnie J   March 26th, 2008 11:40 am ET

Just as pledged delegates have no duty to follow election results, Hillary has no duty to destroy the Democratic party. She has nevertheless made it her quest.

How could anything good possibly come out of the will of THE PEOPLE being thwarted by any delegates (pledged or "super")? Does anyone remember the 2000 general election and where it got us?

And yes, as an Obama supporter, I acknowledge that Ted Kennedy should cast his superdelegate vote for Hillary to reflect his state's election results . . .

Ted in Pittsburgh   March 26th, 2008 11:39 am ET

Is there not a limit to how low you will go, Hillary?

Chicago08   March 26th, 2008 11:39 am ET

If every time Obama supporters make a stupid comment we give them a dollar, they would be millionaire by now.

Ryan P.   March 26th, 2008 11:39 am ET

This really is a horribly cheap move on Hillary's part. I find it interesting that Hillary has made such a big issue about disenfranchising voters in November by not counting Michigan and Florida's delegates according to their states voters when she now suggest that ALL pledged delegates do as they please and ignore the votes of those whom they represent. I really never thought I'd see the dems lose this year, but now I'm worried, and it is 99% because Hillary is so afraid to lose. This level of desperation is truly disturbing.

RuthieM   March 26th, 2008 11:39 am ET

This is exactly why Bill Richardson endorsed Obama and why the others have too.

Susan, PA Voter   March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET

Here she goes again!

First it's the superdelegates, then FL & MI, then the electoral college, and who knows what desparate scheme she will come up with next.

PEOPLE: After all the proven lies, the deceptive tactics, the lack of transparency, the mistruths, the half-truths, the inflated record of experience, the lawsuits, the this, the that, HOW CAN ANYONE VOTE FOR HER? I can't, and won't.

Barack: Come to PA and talk some sense into these people!

Ryan   March 26th, 2008 11:38 am ET

This really is a horribly cheap move. I find it interesting that Hillary has made such a big issue about disenfranchising voters in November by not counting Michigan and Florida's delegates according to their states voters when she now suggest that ALL pledged delegates do as they please and ignore the votes of those whom they represent. I really never thought I'd see the dems lose this year, but now I'm worried, and it is 99% because Hillary is so afraid to lose. This level of desperation is truly disturbing.

RK   March 26th, 2008 11:37 am ET

I think you're all a bunch of morons. You are so blinded by hatred of the Clinton's you don't even know why you hate them. It doesn't matter what Hillary says or does, it won't be good enough for you. Never mind that Obama parrots all of her ideas, but for you to blame Chelsea for her father's behaviour just proves my opening line.

Jim   March 26th, 2008 11:37 am ET

Hillary should get the nomination so it won't unfold this way at the convention but if that's what's best for the party and the nation then so be it.

AJ, IL   March 26th, 2008 11:37 am ET

I think some Hillary supporters are delusional. Hillary is trying to create new math by saying the superdelegates should look at the primary states won as electoral college votes. Now she is saying that essentially pledged delegates and superdelegates are the same. Anybody can change their votes regardless of primary and caucus results.

Honestly, Hillary looks like she is willing to destroy the Democratic Party and its nomination process if she is not the Democratic Party choice. I hope the superdelegates are paying close attention to Hillary's campaign. If Obama can win 6 of the 10 remaining voting contests (including North Carolina and Indiana), Obama will have the support of the uncommitted superdelegates as the Puerto Rico voting contest ends on June 3rd.

Fernando   March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Un-freaking-believable! So why do we vote at all, let's just wait until the end and take a general poll and whoever is up is the nominee.
I don't understand how Hillary still have supporters…These type of comments make me want to puke!

enomisa   March 26th, 2008 11:36 am ET

Super delegates have a responsibility.

It is not to just mirror the popular vote.

If that were so, no need to create superdelegates.

They are there for a situation just like this. A virtual tie- well sort of- count Fl and Mi and no longer a tie. They are there for a scenarion where the democratic base wants one candidate and the indies and republicans swaying toward the other candidate. AND they sway is not large enough to be significant to matter in the general election- again, especially when the votes for Hillary have been suppressed.

May the best man… or woman win- fair and square, not by cheating voters out of their vote.

Jen   March 26th, 2008 11:35 am ET

National polls show that democratic voters are changing their minds (toward Hilary at the moment)..why shouldn't the delegates votes reflect that change?

National polls show that democratic voters are changing their minds (toward Hilary at the moment)..why shouldn't the delegates votes reflect that change?

Crocus   March 26th, 2008 11:33 am ET

Umm, wouldn't it disenfranchise the voters if the pledged delegates did not abide by the election results? I thought Clinton was against disenfranchising voters.

Suzanne   March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET

It is time for super delegates to come out for Obama. Clinton was suppose to get the hint with Richardson. It was another opportunity for her to save face and step down from the race. Now we just need the rest to committ for Obama and maybe then she will get it.

Karl   March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET

If she somehow steals the nomination, then loses in the general election, she will ask the generals and admirals who were photographed with her to stick her in the White House by military force.

Larry. San Diego, Ca   March 26th, 2008 11:32 am ET

Obama is finally be exposed. He is going down.

Manuel TX   March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET

The rules are the rules.

Isn't that the endless chant from the Obamabots regarding MI and FL.

The rules for pledged delegates are clear, and they can vote for whomever they want.

Since Barry is such a great candidate then he has nothing to worry about. :)

The rules are the rules.

polly h   March 26th, 2008 11:31 am ET

If the shoe was on the other foot then obama to your suprise would be saying the thing besides Richardson and that seen to be great for obama see like i say before the us is not ready for a women president whether a clinton or not go Hilliary

~ Jan, NJ   March 26th, 2008 11:29 am ET

I pray that other superdel's follow in the footsteps of Richardson. And SOON! Before the Democratic party falls completely apart and the nomination goes to the Republican's.

Rob   March 26th, 2008 11:28 am ET

seems the only experience necessary for HRC on day 1 would be the skill to lie, twist facts and alter the rules to further her ambition – all of this with a straight face. Is this not the experience of the last 7+ years?
It truly amazes me that no one gets this especially the hierarchy of the Democrats.

Peter Paul video   March 26th, 2008 11:28 am ET

That how stupid Hillary Clinton thinks people are.

One moment she wants everyone's vote to count and the other hand

she doesn't want voters decision doesn't count.

Pledge delegate are up for grab, that is silly .

Why border to campaign when all your votes won't be yours?

I don't understand why Hillary want to change the table or move the

goal post to her faviour.

I just think she will hang herself if she didn't win the nomination.

Carolyn   March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET

It is so obvious to me that Hilary Clinton is doing everything she can to muddy the waters just to get the nomination. Her only hope is do pull down Barak Obama and to what end. What she is doing is truly hurting the democratic party and it just is plain selfish. I think she felt like she had the noimination wrapped up and now she is waking up to the truth that it just is not so. I am willing to bet thaty is Sen Obama had lost 12 primaries in a row the DNC would have insisted that he get out of the race, but no such thing happened with Sen Clinton. I am so fed up with this that I am thinking of voting for Ralph Nader if she gets the nomination. Her entire campaign has been seek and destroy and I mis-spoke (which where I come from we learned early on was called telling a lie).

Gail   March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET

If she wins, I will stay home or vote for McCain. At least he seems to be a decent human being.

enlightedMan   March 26th, 2008 11:27 am ET

Guys,
Whoever you support, please close your eyes and think seriously. Ask yourself…what do you want from our president? Honesty, Decency, Straight Talk, Leadership, Working with and for all …etc. Please do not consider race or gender. Once you have your answer, vote for your candidate. And also vote for the candidate whoever is elected by the primary. We need to unify our party…we need to understand that at the end of the day we are all democrats and we need WH back. It is disturbing reading news that Obama and Hillary supporters will not vote if the other candidate gets nomination. That will be biggest failure for all of us as democrat. After primary..we will all unite for our nominee.

Clear thinker   March 26th, 2008 11:26 am ET

The race is pretty close to 50/50 even with the disenfranchisements. And it would shift in Hillary's favor if ALL the votes for her were counted.

Obama supporters, you can not suppress the votes in favor of his opponent and then still declare he has a lead.

Silly newbies.

Told you so!   March 26th, 2008 11:26 am ET

Why are you all suddenly so surprised and disgusted? Hillary has behaved this way for her entire public life. Oh, I understand. Now, she has begun dumping on Democrats!

Katie   March 26th, 2008 11:25 am ET

To those who think Hillary should "win-at-all-costs": You live in America, which is technically a REPRESENTATIVE Republic. If you want to live in a country where leaders are entitled to their posts, I suggest you move to one of the many countries in the world that operate that way, Saudi Arabia, perhaps.

Also, some of you suggest that some people, knowing what they know now, would not vote for Obama. Can you imagine that some people in Ohio that voted for Hillary wish they could change their votes to Obama now that her NAFTA-promoting schedules have been released? It goes both ways.

Hillary can't maintain any semblance of ethics or integrity and get the nomination. I usually vote republican, and I'll cross over in a general election for Obama because I believe that he will revive American's interest in our political system. I'd like to see a bright light shined upon our politial system to see the "cockroaches" scurry. There is no circumstance in which I would cross over to vote for Hillary.

ajay   March 26th, 2008 11:25 am ET

hillary, pl get going… ur only goal now is to ensure dems dont get to white house. disgusting…

DM   March 26th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Hillary's made a statement after the 2000 election that the popular vote should be the deciding decision. Now since it's her foot shoved in the white house door once more, and she isn't getting ahead in the popular vote or the delegate count, she wants to say the delgates and superdelegates should decide not based on popular vote. If that doesn't go her way, she and her supporter Senator Bayh wants to use the electoral college even when that was what she was so upset about in the 2000 election that got Bush in office. It's sad that it's not even astonishing to Americans anymore that she is two-headed. Oh what a tangled web she weaves!

GoHillary   March 26th, 2008 11:25 am ET

Go Hillary! Obama and his spirtual advisor have no chance in the general election. He will lose every big state that matters. Go Hillary!

BrianTR   March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Man Clinton has really lost it.

KMB   March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Wow, I am so tired of unscrupulous politicians. Why even have a primary vote. Maybe the DNC should just nominate a candidate for us. I mean if we are going to keep changing the rules to accomplish the means for a single person then why bother to have the people vote anyways. Isn't Hillary the one that wants the peoples voices heard, then when they are heard and delegates are awarded proportionally she wants the delegates to change what the people wanted – priceless!

Veronica   March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET

Since not candidate will reach the magic number, the Democratic candidate will be determined by (1) super delegates or (2) pledged delegates switching to the other candidate. Therefore, there will be lots of changes occurring at the convention if there is not a clear winner beforehand. It is my understanding that some delegates have already started moving (ie. super delegates and Edwards pledged delegates). So what did Hillary say that is not correct?

Brandon   March 26th, 2008 11:24 am ET

I guess i wasted my time when i stood in line to go vote. Good thing I live in a primary state. I would have wasted a couple hours in that case. Why is Hillary so against democracy and fair play?

Linda   March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Obama supporters all claim to think he has the ability to unite, inspire, be the peacemaker, etc. But the tone of hate that comes out of his supporters when talking about Clinton make me think otherwise. I think Obama is very inspirational. It's his supporters….my fellow citizens(!)….that scare me.

You all know running for office is competetive by nature, right? I wouldn't quit such a close race until the very end!

Robert Cox LA   March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET

I do not know what Hill has in mind, but I am sure she will try in some way to steal the nomination at the convention. If this is the case, I hope my party will remember Florida in 2000 and how loudly they cried out for justice. If the DNC allows Hill to hijack the nomination they are just as underhanded as the GOP. In closing, no more Clintons and the Bushes they hide in.

KJ, CA   March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET

It is absoutely disgusting that she keeps advocating this. I understand that she is doing this because it is the only way she can win the nomination. But, to tell pledged delegates that they should not support the candidate who was the choice of the voters that they are representing is beyong wrong!

Mrs. Clinton it is time to stop, it is time to withdrawal and let Senator Obama get on with the business of getting a Democrat into the White House. These kind of tactics are unthinkable to me and how anyone can support you after you advocating this I just don't understand.

George Chinda   March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET

Hill desperation is a disease and it's seriously catching up with you. Humbly bow out of the race and let Obama unite the DNC party and carry you and your little supporters along else you will be shamed out of the race and the effect will be you losing the little political clout you've got for life. Changing the rules to suit you will not help matters.

Gerald F.   March 26th, 2008 11:23 am ET

I believe people are missing the point Senator Clinton is making about the delegates freedom of choice. Basically I read her words as telling everyone not only is it up to them but she herself is NOT controlling their thinking mind and won't. I don't think she is cooking up anything. (Neither is Senator Obama by taking a vacation for that matter).
Some of the remarks here seem to read more like exerts from some old murder mystery with lists of suspicions being tossed out a the drop of a hat.

Brandon   March 26th, 2008 11:22 am ET

How anyone can defend Hillary on this amazes me. Obviously to her anyone that votes against her doesn't have the right to have that vote counted. Stating that an election where her name is the only one on the ballot is "fair" combined with her trying to overturn the will of those who already voted makes me question her commitment to democracy. The arrogant and self-entitiled woman doesn't care about democracy, the democratic party, or the United States of America. She only cares about getting back to the White House. How anyone supports this is beyond me.

Deborah   March 26th, 2008 11:21 am ET

Hillary is cooking up more lies. She is readying herself to cheat!!!!!

Chris Crew   March 26th, 2008 11:20 am ET

It sounds like Clinton and her people are happily saying that we don't live in a democracy… She is saying that our votes don't matter and that the "pledged delegates" can do whatever they want despite the outcomes of the elections.

This rule needs to be changed. Who decided that the people should not elect our candidates? And why is Hillary championing this line of thinking?

Apparently, Clinton is no longer concealing her dislike for the democratic process and is hoping that she can reshape the rules of our elections in a way that disenfranchises the majority in order to cement the groundwork for her rule.

She has no chance of winning at this point with the power of the people. She has already lost that race! He only hope now is to try to get party insiders to overturn the will of the people.

ALL YOU CLINTON SUPPORTERS OUT THERE — Do you like Democracy or Clinton more? Should we do away with the primary elections and just let party insiders choose our candidates like they did a century ago? Its about time for Clinton's supporters to have a reality check and get behind democracy before their favorite candidate of the moment.

Obama has won the popular vote, has more delegates, and has won almost twice as many states. I he is not the nominee, it will be a stain on our Democracy!

Roger B from Portland, OR   March 26th, 2008 11:20 am ET

So…after campaigning so much for the voices of Florida and Michagan to be heard (also note that she ignored Michigan until Florida said it couldn't vote, then she was on a plane and over in MI faster than a rat leaving a ship) now she is saying the voices of the voters DON'T matter?

Which is it? The people or the delegates?

dlr   March 26th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Bottom Line…….She will destroy the Democratic Party…..I hope that she is happy……

sozzi   March 26th, 2008 11:18 am ET

Sharon,

Obama sure doesn't need Hillary.
Thanks, but no thanks.

stephen   March 26th, 2008 11:17 am ET

Obama Get on the phone and get some of her delegates!

Cammi317   March 26th, 2008 11:16 am ET

If this was party vs. party, this kind of tactic would be somewhat stomachable, but this is just SAD. At this rate, the Democratic party will be condemned. I understand that she is upset that Bill Richardson jumped ship (of his own accord), so she is trying to encourage others to sway her way. The problem is, at the end of the day because of all of the devisiveness the party is going to split in a way that no Democrat could ever win the election. I caution BOTH sides to be careful at this stage of the game. It can do no good for the Democratic party.

Ed   March 26th, 2008 11:16 am ET

It bothers me to see that Palosi, Dean and Gore are just sitting back letting this lady tear up the Democratic Party. I mean with all the lies, the changing of positions, refusal to release taxes and now trying to get committed delegates to change sides, this has to be the worse politician that I have ever seen. The mere fact that she fabricated a lie about her Bosnia visit is enough for me not to vote for her let alone all of the new things that we are founding out now. Ex. Lies about NAFTA, lies about bringing peace to Kosovo, Vote for Iraq war and now trying to pull troops and the planted questions early in the WH race.

Aaron   March 26th, 2008 11:16 am ET

clear thinker…your entire argument is based on a fallacy. The race isn't 50/50. Obama is ahead, hence the delegate count and the popular vote count and the states won count.

but you support Hillary and can bend the truth to make your argument look better. Like is like huh?

Deborah   March 26th, 2008 11:16 am ET

Hillary you are so over!

Shawna   March 26th, 2008 11:15 am ET

I would hope the upcoming voters would use common sense and put this primary to rest. Any other candidate would have been asked to step aside…where is dean, where are gore, and the other superdelegates…Bill Clinton himself should be telling her it's over. This has got to be pulling at straws.

Delegates   March 26th, 2008 11:15 am ET

CNN – I guess my conment on Delegates made to much sense so you took it out. I don't know who is worse the DNC or CNN.

Tommy, TX   March 26th, 2008 11:15 am ET

Get out now!!! PLEASE. Take Bill and Chelsea and just go home to NY. PLEASE!!!

msm   March 26th, 2008 11:14 am ET

How much stupider can this woman gets? So ok Hillary if the pledge delegates are not bound to their candidate, I guess all the pledge delegates for you should just switch to Obama so he'll have enough delegates for the nomination and end this madness that you've started. You're not thinking of it that way ah! I forget, you've been fighting so dirty and nasty for so long it's making you senseless!! Give it up Billary you're fighting a losing battle, the clinton regime has come to an end. TALK ABOUT THE AUDACITY OF HOPELESSNESS!!!!!!

diane   March 26th, 2008 11:14 am ET

She claims her years in the White House qualify her to run the country. Well I do believe the White House gardener, chef, maid all have been there longer so they are just as if not more qualified.

E Popp   March 26th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Early delegates will have had several more months to examine the candidates. They should make up their minds on the convention floor.

D L Williamson   March 26th, 2008 11:14 am ET

I cannot support a clinton, nothing but smoke,mirrors,lies & BS AND trying to redefine the dictionary, misspoke=lie.

lol   March 26th, 2008 11:14 am ET

Hillary will get the nomination, because barack can't carry big states, against her let alone mccain. The DNC recognizes this, and they know with him on the ticket they will lose the white house.

Steve   March 26th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Shameless.

Why should anyone vote for Hillary? Tell me!!!

brian gilbert   March 26th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Well, here we go. The voters have taken the time to respond to the candidates by voting in primarys and caucuses. The results have been counted, and delagates awarded by the percentages of the vote.Now Hillary Clinton states that the citizens of AMERICA are full of it and there are better people out there that should change there fellow citizens votes, just forget that the people have spoken, and vote her in as the nominee. Get Real if we as citizens, cant have our vote counted then why even get involved. I am livid

OMG   March 26th, 2008 11:13 am ET

Its funny that all the attacks on here are against Clinton. ITS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that set up this ridiculous system, so why don't you spew the hate in their direction and get rid of the superdelegate mess altogether. The Democratic Party somehow feels that people in its own party aren't smart enough to vote for the "right" candidate. I find it hilarious though that everyone says that the superdelegates must vote how the people vote, but Bill Richardson (NM went to Clinton) is okay in pledging his support to Obama…

It doesn't matter either way, the Democratic Party is ripping itself apart so it makes no difference whether you support Clinton or Obama. John McCain is going to be the next President. The Democrats could very well destroy themselves completely this year, unless they get their act together. I don't see it happening.

If the Democrats do survive this mess, you can probably guarantee they won't see the White House for another 20 years or so.

Let's be clear   March 26th, 2008 11:12 am ET

Suppress the Clinton votes and still SHE has 50% of the votes.

Then let's pretend that Obama is winning- with just 50% of the votes- and none of his voters disenfranchised.

Then let's pretend IF he gets the nomination that he won it, rather than stole it.

Then all of us lifelong democrats who have been disenfranchised or watched our fellow democrats be disenfranchised by our own party and the DNC, lets all vote for Obama ANYway- just out of party loyalty.

Even though we don't think he is the best candidate and even though we recoil at rigged elections.

Dennis   March 26th, 2008 11:12 am ET

I don't want to hear Hillary Clinton talk about making every vote count anymore. She doesn't respect the primary system. Out of one side of her mouth, she wants revotes in Michigan and Florida–seemingly because she believes she can get more pledged delegates out of those states. Then, out of the other side of her mouth, she is telling the pledged delegates they don't have to vote for the candidate they were elected to select at the convention. She can't have it both ways. Either the primary votes mean something, or they don't.

joyce price   March 26th, 2008 11:12 am ET

So, at 3:01 am – "I made a mistake, I'm only human" as the world is blown up. I can't see how any woman could have supported the bombing, maiming and destruction of thousands of families – "it takes a village"

scott   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Wow its amazing how well these bots follow there great leaders advise of hope and change. and that so called great speech many must not of really heard it . The change wasnt for many of your dypers.
Obama must be so proud of what the Union he has created

joe   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Her point is that this is the rule of the game. Deal with it.

Caucauses are not going to be used in the general election, and they are not representative of the general election (unlike primaries) but yet they are counted for democratic nominations. This rule benefits Obama because the people that vote for him can sit at caucauses half a day (in some cases a whole day). What about people that vote ahead of time, older people, people that have to work???? How is this representative of the general election? This caucus "advantage" is going to be moot in the general election.

Superdelegates John Kerry, Bill Richardson and Ted Kennedy's states all went to Hillary yet they are back Obama against their constituents. So no superdelegates don't have to vote the way their constituent votes. Period. I have yet to hear a formidable argument against this point.

Instead of just listening to speeches, Obama supporters, why don't you think before reacting like irrational children? This is the rule of the game, which like it or not, is the way it is unless the rules are changed mid way. If Obama wins with these rules. That's great I will support him because I am a democrat and want the war to end, etc. (I also don't understand people that say if Hillary or Obama won, they would vote McCain… this makes no sense people! If you are voting on this logic, please stay at home)

Sharon   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Please go look at todays Gallup Poll for who needs who in the fall…OBAMA HAS A HUGE PROBLEM…..

tim from Ravenna, OH   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Of course the Obama campaign is complaining. What don't they complain about? The fact is that what she is saying is the truth. What if, say the leading candidate is indicted of a serious crime just weeks before the convention? Are we to believe for a second that the pledge delegates are bound in some way to stay with that indicted candidate? The very fact that Obama and his campaign is so thin skinned shows me that this man is no where near ready to accept the responsibilities of our countries highest office. He keeps saying that he plays by the rules, but rejects any rule that doesn't benefit him in some way. Where is the new kind of politician that will bring change? He is doing exactly what she is doing, anything to win.

April in Texas   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Please Hillary stop destroying the party with the attitude If I cant win the nomination I will destroy the party instead. IF ANY DELEGATES CHANGE IT WILL BE YOURS TO OBAMA. Your childish behavior is unbecoming and I will be pissed if the nomination goes to you when Obama is clearly in the lead with pldged delegates popular vote and more states won even those states you say dont count.

Obama 08
Austin Texas

fred   March 26th, 2008 11:11 am ET

Should have read….Richardson is going against the vote of the people of his state!!!!

mike in georgia   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

To Spirit of American and any other HRC supporters…wake up to reality. HRC will never win in November. She has 48 – 51% of American voters saying they will NEVER vote for her. And, this was BEFORE the darling of the independents, John McCain, became the nominee. No red state will turn blue with HRC and some blue states may turn red, like PA, MI, WI, and MN. Look at the electoral map from 2000 and 2004 with an objective eye and you will agree.

Joy   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

She is right.

My uncle is a pledged delegate. After hear Obama's speech about race, he decided to switch his vote to Hillary. He said the reason is Obama's 20 years tie with that anti-America church makes Obama not qulified to be any public official. Also, instead of addressing the public the questionable relationship between him and his pastor, he enlarged the question to race and try to make Americans agree with him. If he admits his mistake and last 20 years was a mistake, my uncle would keep his vote, but Obama didn't.

Finally, voting for Obama for president is liking rolling a dice. It's dangerous for America. Too many red flags.

GO HILL!   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Please go to today's GALLUP POLL for info on which candidate needs who in the Fall…..28% of Hillary's supporters will VOTE McCAIN in the Fall….Obama has a huge problem, on top of his other electibility problems…

Dilip Samuels   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Hillary Clinton should tell us atea with a few old ladies in Ireland brokered peace …ha!

Kay-Arizona   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Is Hillary not allowed to talk about the rules pertaining to delegates? Give it a break. Hillary sneezes and she is accused of trying to infect all the obama supporters. Thats how stupid this whole thing has gotten.

Nakae   March 26th, 2008 11:10 am ET

Well Hillary sounds like you have a brilliant plan for success:

1. Lose elections
2. Mismanage campaign till it goes broke
3. Cry
4. Delegates feel bad – hand you nomination

And you already have the first 3 steps done!

Jason Diamond   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

The superdelegates should be ashamed of themselves. You can end this nonsense right now, vote Obama as your canditate and start planning for the general election. You are as much responsible for every nail Miss Clinton drives in the coffin of your own party. Why are they so scared of her. The superdelegates really are like cheap workers.

Rick in Florida   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Playing the gender card, the race card, the victim card, exaggerating, lying, distorting, mudslinging, crying….and now STEALING. When is Howard Dean and the DNC going to stop rolling over for Hillary and put an end to the Clinton's arrogance and selfishness??

Ray   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Then what's the need for primaries and caucuses? Just place the delegates in a room and that them choose on their own.

I guess the Clinton campaign thinks representative democracy is overrated.

MELMARIE   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

I'm not surprised by Her remarks, Hillary has no loyalty and flip flops every second so it's no wonder she would expect everyone to do the same.

Obama '08

Mary   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Why don't we just not bother having a goddam election at all!…This woman needs to stop bending all the rules…I can't be the only one totally fed up with her tactics…I used to support her but all have left for her is contempt…I'm tired of the LIES (no, not misstatements), the sheer desperation, the party being ripped apart and the mud that she throws around every day…I just want this woman to get off my tv, internet, newspaper and anywhere else that shows her sorry face.

Flem   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Clear Thinker asks: "If Americans hate Hillary and don't want her to run- then why is the race at 50/50?"

This is primarily due to Hillary cashing in on the DUMB VOTE. Anybody with half a brain and can remember at least 2 months of this primary's history knows well that this Woman is saying anything and everything to get elected. Exaggerations, out-and-out lies, misinformation, spin…you name it.

Please "Clear Thinker", open up your eyes and see this woman for the swindler she is.

Lonny, Seattle   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

I dont get it.
If thats the case then doesnt it disenfranchise the voter in said state if the delegate flips?
Whats the point of voting if it doesnt matter and they can change to whomever they choose?
Doesnt she support counting all the votes like when she talks about MI and FL?
Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

Orlando   March 26th, 2008 11:09 am ET

Hillary is like the ref from the NBA. Gamble on the game which you are calling, disqualify their best player and hope you don't get caught in the end. He got caught and Hillary will get caught. I thought she was like the Giants but it seems like she is like the Patroits of 08. Cheat to win and win to continue on cheating.

You go Hillary. NOW go home.

kristine   March 26th, 2008 11:08 am ET

Go Hillary texas loves you…obama can't even wear our flag..he lies….speeches don't get get you anywhere…..he through his own grandmother under the bus stating typical white girl…that was so rude….he needs to get while he can…

Matthew   March 26th, 2008 11:08 am ET

To all those saying she's not following the rules, actually take a look at the rules. Pledged delegates are not bound in any way from making an independentally informed judgement.

And to thoseObama supporters who think she's being undemocratic, let's talk about those revites in Michigan and Florida. Oh wait, they didn't happen because the Obama dragged its feet and whined rather than giving the people of those two states a voice in the process.

Robert   March 26th, 2008 11:08 am ET

What's the point of setting or having "rules?" The Dems in Florida and Michigan broke their own rules when they changed the dates for their primaries….but since things haven't gone Hillary's way during this campaign the rules everyone agreed on should be broken.

As I understand it, the delegates are pledged to represent the wishes of the voters in their state by standing up for the candidate the voters picked through their votes. Once again, since things haven't been going Hillary's way it's okay to change the rules so that they might favor her.

What a great example our "leaders" set. It's no wonder our children use the exact same reasons and excuses on us. Hey look – a red light! That means everyone else has to stop, not me…..

speaking out   March 26th, 2008 11:08 am ET

Clinton is only indicating the facts. Delegates can switch their allegiance, particularly if circumstances arise that would cause them to do so – ie, revelations about one of the candidates that changes the delegate's perception of their suitability for the presidency or their electability.
When Clinton brings up facts that support her prospects in the campaign, she is hastily criticized and called all kinds of names. When Obama takes actions that support his prospects – such as his opposition to any revotes in Michigan or Florida because they would not be favorable to his candidacy – nobody says anything.

John D.   March 26th, 2008 11:07 am ET

This feud began more than a year ago on the very topic of Clinton dishonesty, in the form of David Geffen's comment. "All politicians lie, but the ease in which the Clintons do it is esspecially troubling." Why is it that CNN can't speak the word "lie". Why are you instead using much euphemisms like "misspoke", "exagerated", "mistakenly" or "misrembered"? All the while, you minimizing the importance of the story compared to Rev. Wright. Why not just give that hack, Lanny Davis an anchor slot?

Sean   March 26th, 2008 11:07 am ET

I've had enough of this talk from the Clinton campaign. First she complains that if Florida and Michigan don't get revotes, that it disenfranchises those voters. I happen to agree with this, since it wasn't the citizens' choice to move their primaries, but rather the legislatures'. Now she says that the "pledged" delegates can switch allegiances. As a voter in a state that has already had a primary, I'd feel pretty disenfranchised myself if the delegate I helped chose decided on their own to switch to the other candidate. I don't care if the party rules allow this or not; the voters spoke, and the delegates should listen.

Hillary, it's time to go away. Maybe in a few years, it will be your turn. But for now, quit trying to come up with all of these different ways that you can try to steal this election. This is exactly why I'm not one of your supporters. It's more of the same Washington politics. Not this year, not this time. It's time to change the tone of the political system in this country.

maya   March 26th, 2008 11:07 am ET

And the MEDIA keeps this going too! Of ALL of the stories to cover- comparing McCain and Hillary's economic speeches and policies, comparing records- ANY thing…they keep this going-from an interview LAST WEDNESDAY-to keep people posting petty rude blogs as will surely follow…

Strictly Business   March 26th, 2008 11:07 am ET

Hillary is truely a fighter and she doesn't mind hitting below the belt. Some woman can handle power, but I believe that Hillary is a woman that will abuse power. As long as things are going her way she is as sweet as pie, very diplomatic and very presidential. But when she is pressured she reveals her ugly side and she acts without thinking. It's not just that you win the race that counts, but it's how you win the race. The presidential race for Hillary is not about her love for this country, like she stated with her eyes full of tears, this is personal.

Alan   March 26th, 2008 11:06 am ET

Both campaigns are well-aware of DNC rules. Each campaign will try to use the rules to maximum benefit. I don't think there is a problem with that. The problem is perception. No campaign wants to appear to ignore voter wishes. As evidenced by the responses here and in media blogs, the appearance of disregarding the individual voter can really backfire. I am quite sure the Clinton campaign isn't happy they have to go down this road, but they must feel they have no other choice. To me, the Clinton campaign is giving the impression of desperation. It seems that they are floating trial balloon after trial balloon to see if they can get anything to stick. In my opinion they are trying to play out the clock in the hopes that Obama's campaign will make a blunder. Unfortunately, playing out the clock helps the Republicans. I don't think it fair to criticize Clinton for playing hard, as long as it is within the rules. I do think the Clinton campaign needs to start considering the impact of their strategy on the party's future.

Helene   March 26th, 2008 11:06 am ET

The latest spin of Lady Macbeth ! Steal Obama's pledged delegates. I have to say that the lady is not running out of ideas, besides running under snipper fire in Bosnia.

Marc in DeKalb, IL   March 26th, 2008 11:05 am ET

Hillary wants EVERY vote to count (if you believe her Florida and Michigan rhetoric) … but ONLY if that vote is for her.

We're looking at someone who is TELLING YOU how to vote and is deliberately trying to undermine the democratic system of her own party.

We're looking at someone who would become a MONARCH if she thought she manage it!

All hail Queen Clinton!

Christine Atlanta, Ga.   March 26th, 2008 11:05 am ET

Per usual, the Obama fanatics are ready to viciously attack Hillary and her supporters. If you saw the Gallup poll today about the 37% of Clinton's supporters who will vote for McCain, you would realize your Boy has a problem. The Super delegates have to carefully think out their chose. The Rev. Wright Problem is not going to go away, the Rebublicans will see to it that it stays in the public's mind all the time.

mnoel   March 26th, 2008 11:05 am ET

Hillary cares about no one !! she is on her own agenda and will not stop!! she lies with such confidence which is very scary. My mother always says a liar is worst than a thief!!

Enough is Enough Hillary !!!

Tamika   March 26th, 2008 11:05 am ET

wonder what they did with the stuff they stole from Whitehouse when they left?

Steve   March 26th, 2008 11:04 am ET

This isn't really surprising. After all, I've been hearing numerous stories from Obama delegates in Texas about receiving robo-calls from the Hillary campaign, asking them for their support at the upcoming conventions. I heard plenty of the same stuff out of Nevada a few weeks back.

Hillary and her campaign have been absolutely disgusting. She's running a Republican-style campaign and she seemingly has little concern that she's potentially ruining the Democrats' chances in November and potentially burning the party to the ground if she manages to pull off a win via shady means.

Karen, TN   March 26th, 2008 11:04 am ET

This is the number one reason people should run away screaming from Hillary Clinton. She is suggesting the end of our democratic process – she is suggesting the removal of the voice of the people. She is suggesting that somehow the people in power know better than the everyday people, which I might add is in direct opposition to what she stands and claims to be a major part of her platform – standing up for everyday people. There is no truth in her!

clear thinker   March 26th, 2008 11:04 am ET

If Americans hate Hillary and don't want her to run- then why is the race at 50/50?

Count the disenfranchised voters of Florida and Michigan and Hillary would have far more than 50%.

Even with the newbies, independents and crossover republicans on his side, Obama can command only 50% of the vote.

Even with Oprah, the media bias, the Kennedys, Kerry, the Shrivers, the democratic party elite, Dean and the DNC ALL pushing to install his as the party nominee, Obama can't rally more than 50% support.

If all those things were stacked in Hillary's favor instead- she'd be way out in front. As ist is, She is holding her own against all the odds- including disenfranchising her electorate and the democratic base.

No nominee can win by disenfranchising the democratic base- the lifelong party faithful- the people essential to a NOV win.

steve   March 26th, 2008 11:04 am ET

Hilary is so stupid,now she's saying that the people voted for obama will go toward her?People are going to see that and go away from her

charlotte   March 26th, 2008 11:04 am ET

Some people are so dumb, yet think they are educated people. The delegates can support whomever they choose, there job is to attempt to insure the open primarys are not controled by cross over voters who will cross back in November. Hillary is no fool, she must be getting encouragement from alot of them to continue to fight on. Remember, Obama has yet to win an all important state. That is not to infer those states don't count, it is a matter of politics. Some states always vote for a republican in the general election. It is a long time pattern, thus they are called red states in the general scheme of things. How many blue states has Obama won? The law of average says, if he is the nominee he will not be the president. The superdelegates want to win in November, as much as we want our specific candidate to be the nominee. Think of the overall picture and you will know why she is still in the race.

JennyM   March 26th, 2008 11:03 am ET

The absolute nightmare in this whole thing is the DNC by their do nothing policy is electing McCain.

I say just shut down the primaries, don't even bother with the NOV election and have the swearing in ceremony for McCain .

DNC == The Party of Apathy Who eat their own young

Tim   March 26th, 2008 11:03 am ET

Here's the thing. Pledged delegates are elected to represent their district.While it's not outside the rules to switch sides, an elected delegate who wants to do so should do the right and responsible thing and contact all the people in the district to make sure they have changed their minds and want to change their votes as well. Otherwise, why vote at all? Pledged delegates represent others. Whether they are pledged to Obama or to Hillary, they have a responsibility to those they represent.

Tamika   March 26th, 2008 11:03 am ET

Not worried. The DNC knows that with all her past and present scandals subject to be aired by Republicans..they know Obama would have a better shot at the General.. Think about it.. do you know how much stuff the Obama camp is holding back just so they wont give Ammo to Reps?Does anyone even realize how many scandals and gates they've been in?..do your homework

Rick   March 26th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Clinton has just pointed out the rules. Why all the negative comments about it? Democrats decided these rules. The total delegate counts would be quite different if it were a winner take all system like the Republican primaries. Frankly once Edwards bowed out I paid more attention to both Clinton and Obama. Niether inspires much confidence in me.

An Agnostic Democrat   March 26th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Can't have it both ways, Hilldog. Either delegates vote with the constituency as you've "always said" (Hillary code for I'm lying) or they are free agents. You represent the worst in the human race much less the race for the White House. Cheatin', lyin', manipulatin', back-stabbin', opportunistic fraud.

Andrew   March 26th, 2008 11:02 am ET

Why do Dems even hold primaries/caucuses if the delegates can do whatever they want? It seems like voters don't even count.

William - Fox Chapel   March 26th, 2008 11:01 am ET

Hillary has lost appeal in Piitsbugh where I live. People are fed up with her negativity and hypotheticals about how the DNC rules work. She may just get a surprise in Pennsylvania and not one she expects. Then it will be clear that she is a loser and one who relies on casting doubts to gain votes. This is backfiring and the primary is still 4 weeks away.

Deborah   March 26th, 2008 11:01 am ET

Hillary is desperate!!!!!

America is Pro-Change

Go Home Hillary Liar Clinton!!!

OBAMA is the Man!!!!

OBAMA 2008!!

ajks   March 26th, 2008 11:00 am ET

She will try anything to get what she wants. Her supporter, Carville, said the other day that not letting the Michigan and Florida delegates be seated is like leaving three minutes out of a forty minute ballgame. He doesn't seem to worry about starting a ballgame and changing the rules thirty-seven minutes into the game. She is the same way. She wants to change the rules as she goes along to get the Presidential nomination. Hopefully Americans can see her for what she is.

Alex   March 26th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Wow. I never thought I'd hear a politician come out and announce that "Your votes don't matter." For all her talk about "disenfranchisement" of Florida and Michigan wouldn't this be a greater offense? Wake up people. Hillary would rather have McCain win this November than Obama so she can run against him in 2012. This isn't about the future of the country for her, it's about ego and legacy. But then again, what's new with the Clintons??

fred   March 26th, 2008 11:00 am ET

Ruslyn, do you recall that Richardson is going with the people of his state!!!!

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!

GO Hillary!!!

David   March 26th, 2008 10:59 am ET

So much for the people's voices being heard.

Carrie in Colorado   March 26th, 2008 10:59 am ET

She is absolutely making an effort to change delegates minds. I was an Obama delegate to my county convention and oddly I received a mailer from Clinton two days prior. I have never visited her site or received any other material from her until that day. It's her shady tactics that confirm she is the same old power hungry Washington politician.

enomisa   March 26th, 2008 10:58 am ET

If this had been a fair, rather than a rigged primary, Hillary would have already won.

How can anyone consider Obama ahead when the votes in Florida and Michigan are not allowed to count? They would switch the scenario entirely. Just because you don't count the votes doesn't mean that they don't exist.

Spew rules are rules all you want, but those people want Hillary. NOT counting them, gives Obama the nomination. That is not the same as him winning the nomination. Millions of people who want to say NO to Obama and YES to Clinton are being silenced.

Winning by suppressing the votes of you opponent is NOT winning- even if you get help in doing so from the corrupt actions of the DNC.

Blayze Kohime   March 26th, 2008 10:58 am ET

Hinting that she will win the nomination with super delegates and not popular vote does not do her credit.

Jamie in Florida   March 26th, 2008 10:57 am ET

Oh put a sock in it Bella–find me a candidate that can eloquently explain race and support a minister who is not mainstream without falling into his political views. Barack Obama is the bravest man in the United States–and very deserving of the nomination indeed. McCain was endorsed by Bush, possibly the biggest hit to his campaign ha, and Clinton is a manipulative patho. You decide who you would vote for.

Cynthia St. Louis   March 26th, 2008 10:57 am ET

Please, PLEASE, Superdelegates, stop this craziness NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WBW OHIO   March 26th, 2008 10:57 am ET

FACT
I she wins the nomination, I do not care how.
She will never be PRESIDENT.
McSame will win for sure.

Joan   March 26th, 2008 10:57 am ET

I was taught that the delagates had to vote their state voted winner, for the first go round. If there has to be another round at the convention (i.e. no winner) they could do whatever they wanted. What the heck are Super-delagates and where did these come from? Why would THEIR vote weigh more than a delegate? Our country was founded on EQUAL rights, and the will of the people. The last elections have been NOT at all what the PEOPLE voted.

Gerard, Tampa   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

Whats sad is that people are not seeing her as she really is,

" I will win at any cost!!"

Kay Wills   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

I have to say, the Press, to some extent is not helping. They don't give Sen. Obama, the obvious front-runner, the coverage deserving of someone in that position.
Why is it HRC's lies and obvious distortion of her experience isn't more publicized?

clouse   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

I guess only big dem states really matter. Funny how every other state doesn't matter. She won CA while john edwards was on the ballot. She didn't fully win TX she won by 100k votes but lost the caucus. But out of the 42 states she has only won 14 states. So I guess she should be President?

Oh yeah…take the delegates away from the other states and tell them to switch…even if you lost all those states….Good luck

bonnie   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

Hillary is a public person and wants to run our country, well she needs to stop lieing and she should have taught her daughter not to be rude in public and she has a man that cheats wow what a family, wake up america is this what you want to run our country . I THINK NOT

John   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

She may be entirely correct on this issue, but remember, if one of "her" delegates should switch her staff will condemn them for being a Judas. I think she really means that only Obama delegates can switch….were hers to switch it would be overt evidence of bias against her. "Me thinks the lady doth protest too much"

P, Ostenburg ,PA   March 26th, 2008 10:56 am ET

. . . .Good. Now I can cast my vote for Senator Obama.

Sue   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

How disgusting is this?

Hillary, I hope you look back on this in a few years and are ashamed at the way youve been acting.

Its very childish, and Americans are sick of the old style political games you play.

outraged   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

Senator Clinton has gone on record urging that Florida and Michigan voices be heard…that their voices count. And now she's suggesting that the millions of votes in this country during primaries shouldn't actually count. SHE IS A REAL PIECE OF WORK.

Oh please forgive me, she's not suggesting that. She is only saying that legally they don't have to. Yeah, right.

Gil - California   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

Thank you Hillary, you have finally given those poor unfortunate delegates that supported you the chance to rethink their position and switch over to Barack.

Now, instead of just hinting that, just outright tell your supporters to go over to Barack's side and you can go home with whatever reputation you still have more or less intact.

thomas   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

bella get a life…we do not need a liar and thief in our whitehouse

Ready for a 3rd Party   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

I'm literally disgusted by Senator Clinton.

For over 20 years I have been a supporter of she and Bill beginning with my days in Hot Springs, AR. I have tried throughout this primary to give her the benefit of the doubt however I am convinced she is just as despicable as the media, the Republicans, the world leaders and the general public believes.

Although I will not vote for Obama or McCain, I'm moved to withdraw my support for Senator Clinton going forward. I know that doesn't mean much to the people on this board but for me this is heart-breaking.

Hillary I am very disappointed.

Paul Lennon   March 26th, 2008 10:55 am ET

You go Hillary!

Take this all the way to the convention, and fight for it.
Lets see what all the delagates have to say.
Lets see who got the best shot.

Don't let fat cats like Bill Richardson get you down.

truth be told   March 26th, 2008 10:54 am ET

like what most people already know, mrs. clinton and her surrogates will do everything to wrest away the nomination from sen. obama, by hook or by crook. to them, nothing is impossible as long as they get what they want. trustworthy they're not.

Ruslyn Schultz   March 26th, 2008 10:53 am ET

I don't understand this, and maybe some of the Hillary supporters can explain it:

How you can fight tooth and nail to defend the voters of Michigan and Florida, so their voters are not disenfranchised, then weeks later, fight for the pledged delegates that those votes are supposed to represent?

This just sounds like it's going to get really, really nasty. Al Gore and John Edwards should just endorse Obama, and try to put this all behind the Dem's.

R.M.   March 26th, 2008 10:53 am ET

Here we go again… blah…Blah…bLah…bLaH..

Fantasy Hour   March 26th, 2008 10:53 am ET

Dream on lady, you are a piece of work.

gmpcnn   March 26th, 2008 10:52 am ET

Why is it that CNN (and other majore media) is glossying over CRH's lies and diverting attention back to the Rev. Wright issue. I was always taught that a sign of ture character was to tell the truth.

You seem to want to hide the fact that she lied and say "so what"! I don't understand.

Patricia   March 26th, 2008 10:52 am ET

When are the woman voting to put 'a woman at any cost' into the WH going to realize this woman is the wrong one… I don't want a liar and thief as my President….. I hope 'her' delegates switch to Obama. That would be the justice she deserves. She lacks morals.

True Independent, MD   March 26th, 2008 10:51 am ET

It is clear to me now that Sen. Clinton lies so much and so often that even she, believes her own lies.
Signs of a Sociopath, really.

ben   March 26th, 2008 10:51 am ET

What in the world is this woman thinking? Is she saying,"If I cant win
by the rules, I will win anyway, because I will have the rules changed!
I hate hate blogs but I am very tempting to write one against her.

Trev   March 26th, 2008 10:51 am ET

So it is ok for Obama to have superdelegates support him when their states do not but not ok for Hillary to do this. Obama will do anything to win.

Nik   March 26th, 2008 10:50 am ET

This woman is crazy.

Hanging Chad   March 26th, 2008 10:50 am ET

Did Hillary "Misspeak" when she endorsed free elections?
Democrats are funny!

jim   March 26th, 2008 10:49 am ET

John Mac, you have my vote.
I will rather vote for a republican than a cheater.
Guess who is the cheater.

fred   March 26th, 2008 10:49 am ET

Hillary is right!!!

Most of those so-called pledged delgates that Obama has are from Republicans crossing over to vote for Obama. He hasn't won any state that is truly Democratic!!! He has only won Republican states!!!

Saad   March 26th, 2008 10:49 am ET

Of course they are up fro grabs… look at the choices… they are hoping maybe Joe Biden will come back… or hoping to amend our constitution to give Bill another term…. ahhhh…

What a joke!

Steve   March 26th, 2008 10:49 am ET

Ummm Hillary…that means that delegates that pledged for YOU can switch over to Obama!!!

John   March 26th, 2008 10:49 am ET

This argument is totally contradictory to her other one that the voices of the people in Florida and Michigan should be heard.

I can't decide if the fact that many people still can't see through her and still support this woman makes me laugh or cry.

Bella   March 26th, 2008 10:48 am ET

You are all whinning about this issue . What about the voters from Florida? Have our voices been heard? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Have all of you forgotten about Rev. Wright? How do think Obama is going to win having this problem hanging over his head? He will not win against McCain.

ANTI CLINTONS   March 26th, 2008 10:48 am ET

This is just a prelude to the fact that the Clintons are working hard to take delegates from the Obama camp, stealing like a thief in the night. The writing is on the wall, just like her trip to Bosnia, she forgot about, how convient.

Watch this witch at what she does, trying to steal her way to the general elections.

Won't do her any good, no matter what she does, Obama will win, becasue he will do the same to her!

glakegirl   March 26th, 2008 10:48 am ET

seriously?! she's got to be kidding!

on second thought, i shouldn't be surprised at all. this is the same old change-the-rules-in-the middle-of-the-game ploy that she's good at.

Sean Collins   March 26th, 2008 10:47 am ET

I'm shocked Hillary is being so selfish. I used to really respect her and I'm a true blue democrat, but if Hillary wins the nomination by stealing pledged delegates (or other kinds of cheating) I'm going to stay home in Nov.

R in Illinois   March 26th, 2008 10:46 am ET

Enough already Mrs. Clinton. Can't you see you are only separating the Democratic Party and making it easier for McCain in November. Stop being so selfish.

steveh212   March 26th, 2008 10:46 am ET

I am astounded at how far Sen Clinton has slipped in my eyes since I cast my vote in the NY primary. At that time, I would have been happy with either candidate– not so much anymore. Now, I can see why people have always called her "divisive". If she will lie about "Bosnia" why do I think she will tell the truth as Commander-in-Chief? If she will steal my vote from another candidate, why do I think she'll be any different as President?

James   March 26th, 2008 10:46 am ET

Hillary,enough is enough.You are leaving a big mess behind.

Dan   March 26th, 2008 10:45 am ET

Let us not disenfranchise the voters of Florida and Michigan but let us try to disenfranchise the voters that voted of Obama. The Democratic Party leadership needs to step in, now, fast.

Dee JAY in miami   March 26th, 2008 10:45 am ET

she is a lier

and she will not get any respect from me…she is not in this race for the people she is in it for herself

OBAMA 08

Paul   March 26th, 2008 10:45 am ET

Further proof to a long list of things that clearly show the Clintons are not trustworthy. If they steal this nomination it will be the biggest victory for the Republicans in history because so many will stay home.

Barack has some issues himself, but it isn't close to compared to the baggage and dishonesty Hillary would drag with her into the election.

She is a NASTY MONSTER and that's the TRUTH!

Jane D   March 26th, 2008 10:44 am ET

As a voter, I still think that Michigan and Florida should still count, and I think this is one of the reasons why Obama is leading with the delegate count, no wonder why the Obama camp is not pursuing a re-vote. Even if he wins the nomination, I won't consider it a win, because the two states where left out, i just don't think it's fair. Now if there's a re-vote and if he wins both, I will accept his nomination because all states had their say. Thank you.

Michael   March 26th, 2008 10:44 am ET

I agree with Anon, "they must be cooking something up." I feel they may have some information that they plan to release and are making sure delegates are aware when it happens they can vote for Clinton.

Fabian Blache III   March 26th, 2008 10:44 am ET

The truly disturbing aspect of this is that Mrs. Clinton vacillates on the issues of what matters and what doesn't and what counts and what doesn't every time she feels she needs to leverage her statistical disadvantage.

When Obama wins small states she says they don't matter; when he wins big states she says it's the delegate counts that matter; when he wins people from her base they become "the latte drinking crowd" and when he wins blue collar votes it's characterized be her and her camp as minority support.

This really disgusts me beyond reproach.

If I were head of the DNC, after witnessing all of these tactics and then hearing her float this position I would do everything in my power to get the delegation to push her out once and for all. In my book she is worthy of a post as DHH Secretary at best. I've truly had enough of her and her clan.

NickNas   March 26th, 2008 10:44 am ET

Hey HILLARY!
You can say this everydau for the rest of your life and it will NOT make us forget;

Snipers

Taxes

Donor List

Ear Marks

Lies

I could go on all day.

A FOCUSED and EDUCATED VOTER!

Norm   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

I know 2 people that voted for Obama that wish they didn't(not a very good job of doing their homework) I wonder how many more are out there? Could be a good thing in the long run.

train   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

This type of "dirty politics" are the very reason Hillary needs to leave the race. If she cannot win the nomination, she will make sure the democrats have no chance to win in November. The fact that she is willing to do anything necessary to win (lie, cheat, and steal) disgusts me. Time the DNC steps in and ends this by sending the Clintons packing.

pat   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

This really bothers me. What is the point of the people voting if the person running can change anything to win. I would really like to know how that is democratic. The DNC better look long and hard at how this primary was set up, to make sure it never happens again. Any more stunts and I too will vot for McSame, just because the RNC right now looks at least organized.

linus   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

I'm not sure if this is a wise strategy on her part, because if pledged delegates are up for grabs, then it seems like the convention would be more like a caucus, and everyone seems to acknowledge that caucuses favor Obama.

FW   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

Will the dishonesty ever stop? Hillary's supporters are defending this as well….WOW. I wonder if they teach their own children to lie and cheat??

As a 63 year old woman, I voted for Hillary. Not anymore!

McCain for '08

actxent   March 26th, 2008 10:43 am ET

People you can stop this madness. Not the Super delegates. you the people can stop all this right now. show clinton that it's over and vote her out in this upcoming primary. then we can get on with it for november.

why would anyone want someone so unfair for a president. she is trying to change all the rules, from FL to MI now with the delegates that the people vote in.

don't talk about Obama's integrity when you don't have any to show the people. come on America get smart.

thomas   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Lies, entitlement, rule changing…there is no hope with a personallity so flawed and full of contempt…she needs to remember that every "dog" has it day and if she continues, hers will be a very unfortunate one…she is doing and being that which says so loudly bush is/has done…

Alex Stone   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Can Hillary tell me why we have primaries and why delegates are split by number of votes won in congressional districts? I guess for Hillary "Desperado" Clinton we shouldn't have primaries… just campaign for delegate votes in Denver. "It's the campaign, Stupid!"

Oh! The Irony   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Hillary Clinton disgusts me. FL and MI delegates should follow the percentages of the primaries, but pledged delegates can switch at the convention?

Let this be understood, Hillary is running for herself, not the United States of America. She should go practice her lying techniques about ducking sniper fire in Bosnia.

Peter   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

National polls show that democratic voters are changing their minds (toward Hilary at the moment)..why shouldn't the delegates votes reflect that change?

Brian   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

unbelievable

Monique Manna   March 26th, 2008 10:42 am ET

Some of you people disgust me – grow up already and stop being childish. Half you guys / gals don't know even know what you are talking about – and I am sure most of you were born in 1993!

Grant   March 26th, 2008 10:41 am ET

The Clintons are fighting to the end Dems…..sorry to say, but there will be likely nothing left of your party….If Howard Dean had any control of this party, she would be severely pressured to step down. If this was any other candidate they would be campaigning for Obama…..And you thought the Kennedy's were powerful, not even sure JFK/RFK could get away with this……….

Yetty   March 26th, 2008 10:41 am ET

I just can't stand this lady. It's like Bill Richardson said" They feel like they are entitiled to be in the white house". USA is not England where the Royal Dynast rules. We have what we call a presidental election in USA where we elect not reward our president. Her philosopy is if she can't win, no one else can.

Mark in Missouri   March 26th, 2008 10:41 am ET

So, tell me, Mrs. Clinton. If you want the voters' voices of Florida, Mighican, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, etc. to be heard, why are you advocating that those voices be overruled with the shouts of a few elite delegates? If we're going to put it in the hands of the "independent judgement" of the delegates to decide this nomination, why the hell are we proceeding with holding primaries and collecting meaningless opinions of the electorate?

You disgust me.

maya   March 26th, 2008 10:40 am ET

The MEDIA is keeping this going- notice the interview was LAST WEDNESDAY. Gee, why is this coming up now?! Truly Hillary bashing and based on all of the petty comments below-it works. Media strokes the flames and everyone-Obama followers- is engulfed in rudeness and rage…

Larry   March 26th, 2008 10:40 am ET

Go away. PLEASE. Just go away.

Mike   March 26th, 2008 10:39 am ET

I personally know a lot of ex-obama supporters that would love to take back their primary votes and give them to HIllary.

Last Minute save   March 26th, 2008 10:39 am ET

She is advising correctly. Considering the fact that Obama's radical affiliations have become public knowledge after many of the primaries. This is need to know information.

matt in austin   March 26th, 2008 10:39 am ET

Her campaign has been calling delegates in Iowa and asking them to change their vote. A family member of mine is a delegate for Obama and he has received calls from the Clinton campaign. He has also received calls from the Obama campaign asking him to remain a delegate.

He won't switch and told the Clinton campaign their ethics are shady.

Brian   March 26th, 2008 10:39 am ET

Wow. Making a campaign strategy out of convincing state level delegates to vote against the primary results…this is going a little beyond the pale, I think. Talk about freaking disenfranchising the voters. I mean good god.

cmax   March 26th, 2008 10:38 am ET

who is Clinton's pastor — Is she a member of a church? Has anyone heartd that her former pastor was recently indicted ? where is this story?

Texas Voter   March 26th, 2008 10:38 am ET

I am surprised Hillary hasn't offered to buy their votes. As far as I know.

After further review,Texas   March 26th, 2008 10:38 am ET

Yes they have the power to negate your vote and like it.

ummu khulthum   March 26th, 2008 10:38 am ET

a respected deligate,voter or suppoter will not line behind some one that doesnt have conscince,whos;s not afraid to lie,a habitual lier for that matter,she;s a hipocreate,full of intrigues and events.pls go away no more deligates for the shameless what kind of leadership will some one like upper to the most powerful country on earth?

Enrique, Chicago   March 26th, 2008 10:37 am ET

Hillary somehow believes that she is above the rules. Not only did she enter this race with a sense of entitlement, but she's been running as though she can make and break the rules as she pleases.

Ian, Maryland   March 26th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Just because it is in accordance with the rules, doesn't mean it's ethical. Remember Hillary, according to the rules in the 1800s, you couldn't vote. It's time for this rule to change.

Allen, Redlands CA   March 26th, 2008 10:35 am ET

So you dont' think the delagates really meant their vote for Obama? Are we to suggest that any decisions you could make as President are subject to twist with the political wind? This is total lack of respect for the voters.

I've come to realize that nothing is beneath Hillary Clinton.

lamont anderson pa   March 26th, 2008 10:35 am ET

can't anyone see the big picture, hillarys going to have the super delegates and the pledged delegates to switch sides at the national convention.so why vote?it's her way or the highway.

Shana   March 26th, 2008 10:35 am ET

Obama will win the primary and the general election. Don't allow yourself to be fooled by the Clinton propoganda.

Mike Miller   March 26th, 2008 10:34 am ET

So the delegates can switch their votes at will. This is yet another example of how America is NOT a REAL Democracy, and how our votes don't mean anything. The Will of the People loses out to the Will of the Big-Money Manipulators.

Obama08   March 26th, 2008 10:34 am ET

I think that Bill Clinton (as a superdelegate) will secretly vote for Obama…lol

William   March 26th, 2008 10:34 am ET

The Obama campaign might have the media, pundits, and the blogosphere on their side, but us bedrock Democrats have the Clintons, and that's all we need. This great power couple has had to endure so much..the Right wing attacks, impeachment, Ken Starr investigation but they have endured and triumphed. The Clintons have always left their naysayers in the dust. If this is how a party repays their only two term presidential couple since FDR, then i don't want to be a part of it any longer.

Lou   March 26th, 2008 10:34 am ET

I do not understand how anyone can support her. What a cheat. She claims she wants Mich and Flor. seated to make sure all voters are heard…then says it's ok to steal the votes from voters who have already pledged for Obama. Slimey!

CL OT   March 26th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Now she wants to take our votes away. Can you belive this? She will do anything to win.

V. Sheldon   March 26th, 2008 10:33 am ET

Hillary Clinton is treading on extremely thin ice here. It is time that she woke up and smelled the coffee. If she thinks that she and her surrogates can play this kind of russian roulette with the powers that be in the Democratic Party, they will be sadly dissapointed. It is self destructive on her part to even raise this issue.

Phil Newton Murphy, Oregon   March 26th, 2008 10:32 am ET

Yeah. To heck with the little people and how we actually VOTED.

For God's sake, when will this anti-democractic demagogue give it up? After she has completely undermined voting rights in the US?

Adam   March 26th, 2008 10:32 am ET

I wonder, does she realize that this can go both ways? For as many Obama delegates who would want to switch to Hillary, there has got to be just as many willing to go in the opposite direction. I 'applaude' her attempt to subvert the will of the voters, I just hope someone in her campaign realizes that a sword has two edges, not just the one.

sue   March 26th, 2008 10:32 am ET

SOMEONE STOP HER!

She will destroy everything…

real dem   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Hillary Clinton is absolutely correct.

They can vote for whomever they choose.

And by August, the only delegate she will end up getting for herself will probably be her husband.

Brian   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

They're not up for grabs you blindly ambitious monster. Get out of the race!!! The country deserves better than what Billary Clinton can possible give us!!!

mispoke   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

I wonder, what will she say when all her pledged delegates shift for OBAMA.

Tiffany   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

She will stop at nothing, this is just ridiculous. Why do we even have an election if the delegates don't have to follow the election results?!? Her tactics are really just getting out of control!

michael, ny   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Uhmmm, what the meaning of "is" is?

Typical of the clintons, change or redefine the rules until I get elected.

Someone in the DNC needs to come out there and tell this lady to stop it.

Enough already.

Aaron   March 26th, 2008 10:31 am ET

Think she would be bringing this up if she were in the lead? Of course not. She's got it in her head that she deserves the WH so much that she is willing to stoop to any level to get it, including ignoring the results of the primaries and the voters.

Ignoring the results of the vote and ignoring the voters voices? Gee, that sounds an awful lot like the man we have in office now doesn't it?

Robin   March 26th, 2008 10:30 am ET

How else would you expect her to respond? It is of no relevance to the campaign today. I am not EVEN a Clinton fan. Dislike and distrust her, but I have no interest in that topic and can certainly understand why Chelsea doesn't want to hear about it anymore.

Irma in North Carolina   March 26th, 2008 10:30 am ET

I am sure that Hillary will do all the pleading she can get by with to get the superdelegates to switch over to her side. She should face up to it, that there is no other way she can win this election.

Nathan   March 26th, 2008 10:29 am ET

I think Hillary is absolutely right about this.
And if any of her pledged delegates decide to wizen up and vote for Obama, I welcome them to do so.

Tim   March 26th, 2008 10:29 am ET

HAH. So only Michigan and Florida's delegates should go the way of the primary, eh Hill? Try to steal the rest of them anyway you can is that it? Such a hypocrite and a liar.

Spirit of America   March 26th, 2008 10:29 am ET

The political picture is now crystal clear for anyone with eyes not blinded by dogma. Obama cannot win the general election. Hillary can, and if nominated, will win the general election by a landslide. After having the presidential elections of 2000 and 2004 stolen in Florida and Ohio, respectively, the Democrats will snatch an overwhelming defeat from the jaws of victory with an Obama nomination. Delegates cannot be such fools, can they?

Anyone But Hillary   March 26th, 2008 10:29 am ET

Quick! Someone give me another straw to grasp!
Hurry!
I'm desperate here!

It's over. See ya Hill. Quit trying to destroy the Democratic Party for your own personal gain. You're losing. You've been losing. You've lost.

Slept in Church for 20 years   March 26th, 2008 10:27 am ET

Obama keeps talking about playing by the rules….

Guess What….

Hillary is right….lover her or hate her… delegates are free to vote for whomever they choose.

Rose   March 26th, 2008 10:27 am ET

Anything to win, right Hillary? Doesn't matter who the people voted for. I'm pretty sure that if HRC had more pledged delegates, she would be touting the importance of abiding by the will of the American voters. Yuck.

Robin   March 26th, 2008 10:26 am ET

Either me or no Democtrat…that what Mrs. Clinton means.

jp/michigan   March 26th, 2008 10:26 am ET

Well, what she stated is true. They can change their vote at the convention, even though majority have never done that, but if they feel the candidate they are to support is not electable, they may change their vote.

Geena   March 26th, 2008 10:26 am ET

Then why do we bother voting at all, if it all goes to waste with the pledged delegates. You think you'd have uproar if the superdelegates upturn the vote.

Imagine if the voted delegates overturn it too! The dems would lose for sure.

monica   March 26th, 2008 10:23 am ET

Hillary, you disgust me.

Eric Z   March 26th, 2008 10:23 am ET

And if the Superdelegates take away the vote of the Democratic Party with backroom shinanigans, say hello to 4 more years of McBush.

I guess Nader was right. Dems have to hang it up if we can't beat the Republicans this year.

anon   March 26th, 2008 10:22 am ET

She is cookin' up something!!! I can feel it!!!

B. Gorman, New Orleans, LA   March 26th, 2008 10:21 am ET

This is a very cheap weapon on the part of Senator Clinton. I understand why she is doing this though, numerically she cannot win this election by means of delegate votes or popular votes. Her only conceivable option is to, in effect, steal delegates already in support of Senator Obama. This would cause an even greater divide in the Democratic party.

Carlo   March 26th, 2008 10:21 am ET

Will the spin EVER end with these people? These are the same people who are pleading for the DNC and Obama to not "disenfranchise" voters, but they are willing to accept pledged delegate support from delegate who represent the will of the people. I expect to see full coverage on this newest doublespeak and out right lies.

jujub   March 26th, 2008 10:21 am ET

Learn math Hillary and stop trying to change the rules.

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