Exactly, Clinton didn't give a crap about "disenfranched voters" until she realized she CAN'T win w/o them. I'm from Mich. EVERY democrat who knew what a "primary" is knew that the delegates weren't going to be counted because the gov. foolishly moved it ahead, Obama, Edwards, CLINTON agreed to the DNC rules now abide by them. Plain and simple.

Like i said i'm from Michigan, and if it matters white, male, young, college educated, and plan on voting for Obama. If Clinton some how steals the nomination i will SERIOUSLY consider registering as an independent and voting McCain in 08′

Hillary tries to imply that Obama "blocked" the re-votes in MI and FL. This is not factually accurate. This again just proves Clinton's willingness to tell her supporters anything to make herself look better.

Obama has said from the beginning that he will follow whatever the DNC decides. But Clintonites have been brain-washed into believing that he had some kind of upperhand control over the situation.

Its just more of the same from Clinton. It should or shouldn't happen, as long as SHE receives the benefits.

Time to turn the page-Obama 08

Nancy,as well as anybody,knows what the Democratic Convention Rules are,but is, now , willing to change the rules to benefit Obama. Super-delegates were designed for a specific purpose,to give their individual convictions in making a decision,based on what is best for the party ,as far as electability. Their job is to ignore the past and vote their convictions ,as things stand ,at the present. It was designed as a safe guard to over-ride things,if explosive info comes out in mid or late primaries. We already have a "Lame Duck" affair, with Florida and Michigan Democratic voters being disenfranchised….. Now,what else can we do to help Obama? Why did we put on the pretense of a real race at all,we should have just elected the freshman senator from the start,to be our nominee.Forget all serious doubts about the man's ability to lead this country. It would have saved everyone a lot of time and money.

Obama should just step down. Do all of you bloggers really be friends with Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Reverend Wright?
He is conning the media and everyone else that's blogging.

More spin and lies from Obama.

I whatch fox tv last night an Carld Rove say Obama has told more lies than Hillary . But I don't concider the trip to Bosnia a big lie because soilgers were there in a large number to protec Hillary.

Some folks need to get the facts STRAIGHT. Obama did not derail the MI and FL do overs. He was not going to stand by and let Hillary pay her way and strong arm her way to how and what she wanted. Some of you need to get a clue. I do not need or want Hillary as a leader because the her way or the highway attitude SUCKS SUCKS. The fear tactic that she uses amazingly is working on a many weak minded individuals. It is not Obama's fault. I AM A FLORIDIAN AND BLAME OUR GOVERNORS AND OTHER POLITICAL LEADERS FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES!!!

Hillary Clinton stated that she definitely would pick a Pastor for herself other than Rev. Jeremiah Wright. O.K., that certainly is her right!

However, Who did she pick and considers as her Pastor? In addition, how many times in the last four years did she attend services at that particular church?

This is a joke right? Obama did everything he could to disenfranchise the voters from Michigan and Florida. He doesn't want a revote because he's afraid he would lose. I find it hard to believe that the voters in those two states would believe that he really wants their votes to count.

Obama's diplomacy can make unexpected friends that come from Hillary's my way or the highway approach.

Put the blame on your governors citizens of FL & MI. They knew the rules and they are the ones who should be blamed for you guys not voting. Stop blaming Obama for this. You people are a bunch of idiots who can't see what Hillary is up to. WAKE UP! and REALIZE that Barack Obama is the BEST you will ever get as President in your lifetime, not Clinton & certainly not McSame. WAKE UP WHY DON'T YA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most of the respondents seem to see this for what it is the same ole politics. So much for the so called candidate of change. He had a chance to let MI and FL count last month. While HRC was pushing for representation he stayed quiet. Now that it is all over (or so he thinks) he comes out with this insult. Either that or the sun fried a few brain cells while he was vacationing in the Virgin Islands this week. BTW: During one of the biggest, longest and most important elections in a long, long, long, long time! Great judgement!

This race is not over by a longshot. Not a chance in hell. If FL and MI don't get a revote forget Dean and his August convention.

Like Aware says: Clinton or McCain 08!

Rules are rules let us not get caught up in the silly season…Even the people whom one would expect to have some kind of common sense are acting stupid. None of these politicans will remember you when they get to office in washington. It appears most of the democrates rules are old and outdated, and needs to be revised before for the next election.
For one, I think the winner of a state should take all the pledged delegates like the Republicans. It is simply and straight forward instead of the even allocation pledged delegates nonsense.

is this a joke. they are just now looking to talk about it now that is past the deadline to have any kind of revote. where is jesse jackson to complain of all the disenfranchised voters in fla?

Michigan and Florida knew the rules prior to their perspective primaries and the outcome if they voted early. Rules are there to be followed and now since this is a close race doesn't mean that we should go back and change the rules after the fact.

I once got a ticket for speeding that ended up costing me over $200, I would have slowed down in the part where the officer was to avoid that ticket and just speeded back further down the road. We would all like some kind of do-over if it's possible but usually it's just to benefit you.

The so call family tree about the candidates it's a scam .They must think Americans believe anything. It's esie money they just want you to try it out.

I live in Philadelphia and I feel that HRC's shameless attempts to divide Democrats by placing her own ambition above the good of the party will only continue to hurt her. I think that the delegates from each state should be divieded 50-50 between Obama and Clinton. That is the only fair solution which allows the delegates to be seated at the DNC.

Obvisouly integrity means nothing to HRC. After all of the Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida or Michigan, Hillary campaigned and called it fund rasing. She then argued for the delegates to be awarded only after it became apparent that she could not win with out them. Barack has released his tax returns from 2000 through 2006 and Hillary called that a good first step but chanllenged him to greater transparency with regard to campaing financing while refusing to release any of her income tax returns.

As we all know Hillary was just caught lying again. First she said that she was always against NAFTA although she was quoted saying that on balance NAFTA was good for New York and the US. Now she lyed about her trip to Bosnia. I place no stock in anything Hillary has to say. I think that she should just step aside now to avoid further damage to the Democratic party.

Exactly split them 50-50 and get it over with…they get their searting and Clinton does not get to "change the rules to her benefits"

So why is the media keep downplaying Obama's misspoken words aka "LIES"? When asked initially if he was at church when Rev Wright gave those hateful sermons, his response was no. However, he changed his words during his speech and confessed that was he was aware of Rev Wright's inflamatory words. Months ago, Obama told the press that he does not know Rezko very well and he said Rezko donated only $150K; however, he later changed his words again and said he and Rezko are friends and they hanged out together a lot and he told the press that Rezko actually had donated $250K. I think the public has the rights to know that this man does not represent hope and change. I think more will surface about this guy as time goes on. And while people are bashing Hillary, we need to ask ourselves why there is a double standard here?

Fair would be to seat them as they voted. It is the fault of the Obama campaign for removing his name in MI. If he and Edwards were on the ballot, Clinton would still have recieved 50+ percent.
They are just trying to keep the overall delegate count in Obama's favor. If they seated them the FAIR way and the other 10 contests play out, Obama would have a pledge lead of less than 40 delegates. Time for Obama to guide himself by his words and not flipflop so much from what he says he believes in.

Hillary only cares about your vote if it is for her only – and then only if it gives her lots of delegates.

Remember folks:

Hillary said MI and FL don't count early on when she thought the nomination was her birth right. Then she changed her mind when she realized she couldn't win democratically. Hillary also said the little states don't matter either – only the big states! But yet the big states that she has won she has only won by a few delegates.

Hillary has not been negotiating. She has been dictating and laying blame. She wanted re-votes, but only on terms that favored her. She wanted to exclude people from re-voting. She wanted mail-in which has no chance of being done accurately and fairly.

If anything, if Hillary wants a re-vote, then you either do things by the book or you give in to the demands of the 1st place candidate.

Hillary only cares about herself.

If I am not mistaken it was Obama that would not negoiate or corparate for a re-vote in FL and MI…… And the lies from the Obama camp continues. This sounds to much like the Bush administration. The Obamites think the american people are just dumb and stupid.

I can't wait until Obama wins the nomination and flops against John McCain so I can tell all his zombie-like followers that, "I told you so"…How can someone be president of the united states if he has only help a political office for a little over a year? Vote for obama now and you will wish you wouldn't have down the road…..

Michigan was aware of the consequences of moving their primary to an earlier date. Why blame Sen. Obama? It was agreed by Clinton, Obama and Edwards that due that they would not campaign in Michigan and Florida due to the Democratic Party in the respective states. Both states, again, knew the consequences of their actions. Sen. Obama has never said to disenfranchise the delegates; but, to come to an equitable decisions on what to due. Clinton now is pressing this issue because she feels it would be in her favor. Is that the democratic process. The irony of all of this, is that if the delegate count were reversed, this would not be an issue for the Clinton campaign. She can't flip flop at will to get her way. I believe every one has a right to vote, but it was not the fault of Sen. Obama.

He (Obama) is always ahead , with common sense.

cya Hillary, it's time to go!!! Your style along with Bill is the past, I have to look to the future. I'm a diehard Dem that will never ever vote for a Clinton again. While he was good he also brought shame and Hillary will do the same, she already is.

And that is what is is.

Rules are made to be followed and not broken or changed to suit anyone's personal needs. I do however believe the states of Michigan and Florida should have a voice at the convention. A compromise needs to be worked out between Clinton and Obama. I think a 55/45 split would not be out of the question. That is approximately what a revote would bring anyhow. I would not give an unfair advantage to either party. Really getting tired of the mud slinging!!

Bob
Rome NY

This issue has been very confusing to me. Clinton has portrayed Obama as the bad guy here when it was the leadership inside their own states who thought this was a good idea. A way to get their thoughts on the map ahead of super Tues.

I'm pretty sure they knew the rules back then, why did they think this action would not negatively impact the voters in these states? Seems to me MI & FL should focus their anger on those folks and not the candidates. Especially when the Clinton campaign makes it seem as if the only obstacle is Obama.

This is the United States of America, isn't it? Since when do we not count everybody's vote?????

People, can't you see that Obama is a peace maker. He want every state be part of at the convention. Hillary, on the other hand…oh no no no….She wants her way or no other way. She is so pathetic!

barry -

Thinking that one (or in your case 2) state is more important than any other state in these UNITED states is not democracy. That's why they were punished for breaking the rules; they thought they were and wanted to make their votes reflect their importance. So the DNC said "You're not above the rules, now go sit in the corner facing the wall". Maybe now Michigan and Florida will understand what it's like to be treated the way the 'big states' treat the 'little states'… not important. But Michigan and (more so) Florida are acting like bratty first graders that were denied their cookie at snack time for misbehaving! Would you give them their cookie back? Would that actually teach the first grader anything? Nah, it means he can misbehave and still get his cookie.

And now, Obama's gotta do damage control, and bring the party back together. See the mess you left behind, Hillary?

Rules are made to be followed and not broken or changed to suit anyone's personal needs. I do however believe the states of Michigan and Florida should have a voice at the convention. A compromise needs to be worked out between Clinton and Obama. I think a 55/45 split would not be out of the question. That is approximately what a revote would bring anyhow. I would not give an unfair advantage to either party. Really getting tired of the mud slinging!!

Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan,….because he took his name off. He is an IDIOT!!!

So Clinton lied again! Obama is the one who is really trying to figure out this mess (behind the scenes) and Clinton is going on every TV station to say that it's Obama's fault that there was no revote. That woman is a LIAR, just like her husband.

"Two Michigan state senators, who just happen to be co-chairman of the state’s Obama campaign, led the effort to convince fellow legislators the plan wouldn’t work."

This quote came from Anderson 360 website today – Obama is a liar and a fraud

that great!! TEH AMERICA IMPERIALISM IS OVER!! GO OBAMA!1

Hillary is shameless. She lied disgracefully on several occasions about her trip to Bosnia and that is adversely affecting every democrat, making us a laughing stock yet she feels pledged democrats would also be as shameless as she is to switch to her camp after all her lies and desperation. Hillary, please, accept the bitter truth, OBAMA is more electable, stop destroying the democratic party, bow out of the race and lets have enough time to plan for the big battle in November.

what a lier, how about telling Michigan voters that when the primary revote deal was ready and money for it were found (DNC, State of Michigan, and Hillary Campaign expressed consent), Obama's campaign played little spin politics and told NO to the agreed deal, because of some "legal concerns" THAT NOBODY ELSE REALLY SO THERE, INCLUDING THE LAWYERS WHO CRAFTED THE DEAL. This is a pathetic lier who is SCARED OF PEOPLE VOTING IN A PRIMARY!!! And now he accuses Clinton campaign, what a shameless person. I hope people say no to him in these states during the general election – NOTHING WORSE THAN TURNING BACK ON 2.7 MILLION PEOPLE, OR 8% OF TOTAL PLEDGED DELEGATES TO DISTRIBUTE.

And the Obama campaign twists and misrepresents the facts again. Obama went to court to stop the states from having another primary. Sounds a lot like GW going to court to stop the recount. Both are afraid of the outcome. Politics as usual. NOT CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

Why does Obama think he needs to interject himself into the Michigan rules? After all, he agreed with them up front. Now stay out of it and let the process follow the agreed-to rules. Same for Hillary…

What happened to Michigan and Florida was their own leaders' doing. I feel sorry for the voters, but they also knew the rules, so why did they go vote?

Obama is being fair and I agree…I'm tired of Hillary trying to dictate to the DNC and trying to get people in those two states angrier.

This country doesn't need what Hillary's been displaying

THAT SHIP HAS SAILED OBAMA!

to quote One Republic, "its too late to apologize"

You successfully took chose to take your name off the ballot in MI. Tried and failed in Florida.

I can only speak for Florida but Obama, YOU WILL NEVER WIN FLORIDA. So many people are upset about your turning your back on us

I'd say let sleeping dogs lie. Why go back on the rules just because the Clinton campaign is complaining?

The Obama camp should move on and talk about issues and concentrate on their campaign.

Or you want to keep dancing to the CLinton's tunes?

Split them 50-50 and be done with all this crap. Then maybe Hillary can stop whining and crying, and we can get on to the issues.

Please remember that Obama was not even on the ballot in Michigan. Even after that, he is willing to open the doors to figure out how to seat the delegates. What more can we ask of him. He is doing the right thing and not trying to bully those delegates like the Clinton Campaign. Once again Florida and Michigan, look at the bigger picture here.

I believe delegates should have a voice in both Michigan and Florida but am highly opposed to the Clinton attitude that they can dictate the rules; there isd no of the peopl or by the people when it comes to Clinton philosophy. In addition as a member of blue collar America, I am very much aware of big money trying to buy its way into the White House with the Clintons.

not to count the vote of 2 of the most critical states in a democratic presidential election is beyond belief….yes lets play by the rules and not count the votes..get real…..that is not a democracy….Howard Dean, Nancy Palosi and Harry Reid need to go. I am calling for their stepping down as they are unable to lead…

nancy pelosi is speaking the truth…those supporters need to feel shamed for they obviously arnt democratic….the democratic party is founded for the voice of the majority not the minority..hilary and her fundriser friends need to figure what party they are in-they shoudk

Rules were NOT made to be broken. Can you imagine a United States of America WITHOUT RULES???!!!
Obama '08 – '16!!!

This is too hypocritical.

The Obama campaign doesn't want to negotiate…they just want to suppress the will of the voters in those two states.

What a joke.

Without rules, you have chaos….This thing will sort itself out. If we circumvent the system and don't follow the rules, the chaos will never stop. Rules are just boundaries….

The candidate of change is practicing politics as usual in Michigan. This state may have broken DNC rules in its first primary, but attempts to change legislation that would allow a revote within DNC rules were blocked by Obama supporters in the Michigan legislature. Clinton won the first primary, and he knew he’d lose a revote. Even if he wins the nomination, people here will feel that he suppressed their votes.

Give me a break, anyone with a brain knows it was the Obama camp that fought and prevented a re-vote in these 2 states.

Go Obama!!!!! very presidential, and playing by the rules…..Clinton has consistently showed she will bend the rules to her likening (Michigan/florida, telling pledged delegates they can swtich sides, lying about her Bosnia trip…)

BE THE ADULT IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND PLAY BY THE RULES!!!

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you kidding me? Is this a joke by the Obama camp? They block Michigan from having a re-vote, and do nothing to help Florida have a re-vote and then when all of that fair way of seating the delagates falls through, THEN they say they want to try to seat the delagates?

Clinton was negotiating the whole time in trying to find a way to seat these delegates and now Obama has the nerve to say that their approach is what we are tired of? Give me a break.

This comes from the guy that sent in his lawyers to the election center in his first campaign for Illinois senate and challenged every signature of his challengers sponsors, until they could not run against him. This man doesn't care about fair voting.

More of the same from Obama.

I don't like OBAMA'S ECONOMIC PLANS. Higher tax rate is very very hurtful in my pocket.

i live in michigan and hillary was supporting for a re vote and everything else, obama i cant remeber ever being here and now he say she didnt want to negotiate?

i swear she tried her best, and people say its all michigans fault, no it was the demacratic party fault, not the peoples. ooh the agony!

MI, Fl and the candidates should abide by the rules as originally agreed. To change them to favor one candidate is an invitation to public outcry. Of course the voters should have had the same rights that other states had but their own representatives ruined that for them.

I have been a registered and dedicated Democrat ever since I have been old enough to vote. Now at age 63, the fact that neither Senator Clinton nor Senator Obama can find a way to reach a mutual compromise on who will be seated as the Democartic nominee is of concern. If neither one has the ability nor willingness to work together to reach a compromise on this issue, how can either one be expected to be able to negotiate any compromise with the Republicans, other fellow Democarts, or any of the world leaders? I for one am now considering whether we all would be better off with John McCain running this country.

After they derailed any chance of having another primary, they are trying to smooth things over. I guess this is the change we are getting, same ol' politics. I don't think Florida and Michigan will fall for his shallow words.

Obama,

When do you stop playing this drama? When do stop being so negative on Hilary?? We know the whole story on MI.

I used to support Clinton but she has shown her true colors in this last months. Clinton should follow the rules. I am tired of her always trying to do something that benefits her only and call it "helping people". Now she is suggesting that the pledged delegates should not vote for their constituency in the other states, but say that voter’s voices should be heard in Michigan and Florida. What happens if she loses in Florida and Michigan if there was a re-vote? Should the Florida and Michigan pledge delegates not listen to their constituency too? Then would the Florida and Michigan delegates be “free” to change their minds as well? Talk about disenfranchisement. I have switched to Obama. He took a hit and kept his dignity. I see now that she will do anything to win.

Obama 08’ formally Clinton 08’

Florida and Michigan should have thought it out before they changed the dates. Can't change the rules in the middle of the ball game.

rules were set by DNC and should be followed,they wont be reversed so that to benefit someone because she is really desperate of going to white house,these is america and the law is the law and rules are rules they cant be adjusted to benefit other people,thats not democracy.when someone break the law does he/she go to jail,or do the police adjust the law to the him free? hell no..come on people,let have democracy,both states knew the law and because clinton she is loosing now she want to break the rule she created by voting for it,NO WAY.
ALL RULES SHOULD BE FOLLOWED AS SET,NO REVOTE.

Why is it Obama's campaign only decides to negotiate after Hillary Clinton appears on Fox news and states the obvious? That the DNC can't afford to not seat the delegates at the convention 3 months before the general election? And Plouffe is wrong. Clinton has been trying to get his camp to open a dialogue on seating the delegates and to do a revote for months. Now he wants to discuss it? Obama, you won't do a blasted thing until someone forces your hand. And that is pathetic.

There will be no clear winner if you do not let FL. and MI votes count because millions of peoples voices will not be heard. I do find it funny now since Obama has taken a hit in the polls with the Rev.Wright situation that now he wants to "reach out" to these voters where as before he was "rules are rules". Now who is double talking Mr. Obama? MI should be allowed to revote let FL stay as is only because MI did not have Obama's name on the ballot.

Obama's plan is too little too late! His effort to deprive Hillary of delegates she rightfully won, and would likely win again in a revote, is transparant and down right un-American!!! This is just the latest example of the Senator who spouts empty promises about change practicing politics as usual!

I think he should have done this last month when it really mattered. Too little, too late?

March 27th, 2008 3:12 pm ET
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i say no revote because there was no cocern before so now whats the big issue obviously hilary didnt care before why care now? if she was ahead would she still care..i think not accrding to past statment a couple moths ago

Wait a minute? According to the Obama haters and Hillary, I thought the Obama campaign was trying to "disenfranchise" [<==== insert trigger word here] MI and FL voters.

Not at all, this is the same approach Obama has always had. Take for instance Michigan's open primary. Under previously proposed plans, those Democrats that cast votes in the Republican primary because they knew the Democratic primary wouldn't count would not be allowed to re-vote. How fair is that?

I think Michigan and Florida should both be seated at the convention, and the delegates & super delegates should make the decision about how to count their votes. You cannot exclude two very important states from the process.

I am thankful too that the rules are followed

Give it up Obama. You are not electable!

Jeremiah Wright with his view from the past is wrong for you and wrong for America. But, he will haunt you unless and until you muster up the guts to tell the truth! You cannot talk about the future while you hang on to the past!

Hillary or McCain 08!

Sure, now that he sabotoged a revote, Obama wants to find a way to "fairly" seat the delegates. What's fair to him, a 50-50 split? He lost all opportunity for fairness when he stopped Michigan and Florida voters from having their say. That's not change. That's politics as usual. Obama is nothing but a hypocrite.

I live in Michigan and I was fine with the rules being followed. This concession should be considered just that a concession. I am thankful that the rules were followed.

SPLIT THEM 50-50 AND BE DONE WITH IT. THE VOTES WERE MEANINGLESS AS NO ONE CAMPAIGNED IN EITHER STATE,
SO JUST DIVIDE UP THE DELEGATES 50-50 AND MOVE ON.

THE REAL LOSER IN ALL THIS IS JOHN EDWARDS, WHO MIGHT HAVE GAINED MOMENTUM WITH A GOOD SHOWING IN FL AND MI
BUT SADLY ITS TOO LATE FOR HIM.

ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT EDWARDS COMES OUT/ENDORSES OBAMA WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE PA. PRIMARY AND HELPS TO PUT AN END TO THE HILLARY NIGHTMARE.

(AN INDEPENDENT FOR OBAMA, OR IF NOT HIM, MCCAIN)

Obama, I love you man……. Just keep doing the right things….