See, the absolute key that everyone seems to be forgetting

The absolute key to winning ANY general election is INDEPENDENTS

Obama vs McCain, Obama takes the Independents

Clinton vs McCain, McCain takes the Independents

Either CNN politicker is flooded with news on OBAMA or negativity of Clinton. No wonder it's a propaganda and rhetoric channel not entertaining the sharp comments made against it.

I dont believe your polls. Funny, msnbc and cnn have similar polls, yet Fox news' polls differ. At the end, msnbc and cnn have the same numbers as Fox. What gives?????

Dont believe your california poll.

Time will only show that he will be able to win almost every state.

Funny how all HRC supporters can only bring up Pastor Wright, but everyday something new comes out about her, and her supporters.

Just wait until she releases her cover up tax returns, or her earmarks. Or even the rest of the 1st lady papers she is holding on too, and her donor list.

You all think this is bad, just waiting until any of these come out. She will be done. But you know it won’t happen. She will be willing to rip the party apart, before giving up.

Good job GOP, don't do anything and save your money, and let HRC rip the party apart, you will then win John McCain.

Obama 08

I don't what happend to Hillary's sensibility. Perhaps she is in the throws of a dying campaign and reverting to desparate measures. It's sad to see.

The current polls show a different story than several weeks ago. And several weeks before that was a different story. The polls go up and down all the time from day to day. However it is estimated that if all the primaries were done again right now, Obama would lose many of his states.

The Obama issues are too many and many more to come yet.

…and the hits just keeps on coming! I knew it. I knew Americans aren't as dumb as I once thought. OBAMA '08

My father is an uneducated 82 year old white man who says he would not even waste the gas to start the car to go vote for anyone now running for the White House. Further he believes that Hillary will win the Democratic nomination even if she has to steal it as Bush has done!

So much for the big state argument!!!!!

Geez…. 1 poll and you all at CNN go nuts…

Calm down it's 1 poll. Clinton won that state and she will still win the nom…

please CNN; you were doing so well–don't just back in the tank with Obama again..

CLINTON
08 !

Obama will win. It's sad to see Hillary going down in flames. I really had alot of hope that she would be different than she turned out to be.

Great news!!

Keep up the good work ! The real Dem candidate will prevail and challenge the McCain Reps. this fall!

Go Barack Obama 2008!

This doesn't surprise me. I'm from California and voted for Barack during our primaries and would vote for him in the General election. I did not vote for Hillary in the primary and would not vote for her in the General election if she somehow steals it away from Barack. The only thing she is accomplishing is ensuring McCain wins the White House.

And her buddy Carville suggesting that she is Jesus Christ is not helping her in the slightest.

Why is Hillary Clinton continuing on in the race anyway? If Hillary Clinton was in Obama's position in the race she would be screaming bloody murder, demanding that he was stopped from continuing.

I am very upset about super delegates possibly overturning the popular vote. Win or lose, super delegates should follow the popular vote. Otherwise we do not live in a democracy!

This is a ridiculous "news" article. I'm sure if new polls were held in many states Obama won that we'd see he would not win them today. Plus since many of them were caucuses, they did not accurately reflect the will of the voters in those states anyway. Obama has lied, made racist comments, and has alienated voters with his allegiance to an anti-American and racist pastor. Even if he steals the nomination, Obama won't win in November. CNN stop trying to make pro-Obama news - your intentions are so transparent. Let's have some substantive news for a change. Your anti-Clinton mantra is boring and old. How about some fairness…that would be refreshing.

This is really not that suprising. I think we all know that California is a blue state no matter what, but for the Independents, that is suprising. And for a state that carried Clinton to a win (ending up being 10%)……..well that may say it right there. In the weeks leading up to Super Tuesday, Clinton had a much larger lead and it ended up being only 10%. Hmmm……………. I think this race is now mor about character. Both are qualified and will most likley push Democatic agenda (although I believe Barack would at least try to compromise to get something done), they aren't really that different on the issues. it is all about how the public sees each of them now.

Which proves that crime does not pay, Lade Macbeth Clinton.

She won CA. Lets not get stupid a sample of 2k people in a state that size proves nothing.

The more voters learn about Obama, the more they want him for President!!!!!!!!

She won Ca. This is just a stupid poll. Get real

Hey Hill, guess all those toys you brag about aint so big after all…

But I won't pile on though, I don't want you to start crying again.

Why is Obama in this race anyway.

Clinton supporters will vote for McCain.

Wake up America.

A survey of 2,002 and that qualifies obama stronger than Clinton? hahahaha. I've said it once and i'll say it again: CNN you suck and your media biased just like MSNBC. Its a shame that the conservative station FOX News has been more far to Mrs. Clinton than you have. Why dont you guys just go to a minister and marry Obama that way your union can be complete!

Not if she had Richardson as a running mate.

Now the only ticket that will work is a Clinton / Obama one.

This just confirms what everyone knows; after 8 weeks of unrelenting negative and dishonest campaigning, the only one Hillary has been able to hurt is herself. She might lose California, which has gone for the Democrats every election for the last 20 years. Her negatives have only gone up, up and up. Who in the party has enough influence to tell her to stop?

Hillary needs to stop beating Obama down for just one minute and release her tax info. Hillary makes one believe her tax info will not support her candidacy so she has to beat Obama down before she releases the bad news that will beat her down.

Wow. A survey of 2,002 people conducted DURING the Jeremiah Wright debacle, but PRIOR to the Bosnia sniper fire mis-statement.

What happens if the revote/delegates/super-delegates/brokered-convention/credentials review extend past the convention and gets tied up in court into November? Will the ballot look like this:

[] McCain (R)
[] Gravel (Lib)
[] Nader (Gr)
[] Uncomitted (D)

Time will tell.

Doesn't matter, contest is over and done with. Polls are just hypotheticals and may not reflect a true consensus - reference to New Hampshire, where polls were totally wrong.

On the other hand, I do live in California and am an independent. I would/did vote for Obama over Clinton and would do so again. I would not vote for an Obama/Clinton pairing, however.

Which means he would only win the CA electoral votes. If you want a general election match up you can not just poll one state. Why do these journalist not tell the whole story. I think that we need to get rid of these journalist and get ones who are not biased. I have several friends who voted for Obama in their primaries and now say they would not have after hearing about his preacher. The news knew about it in Dec. If they had done their job Obama probably would not be in the lead.

Another big turnoff! Polls and more polls. Guess you guys are running out of money to follow these candidates so we can really see who the voice of the people favor. The basic fact is that these two candidates are virtually in a tied race and no candidate is bowing out. Why would they? It's going to a convention fight without a doubt and only the electoral college process has to bear responsibility. The media should report facts and just "shut up". Remember the days before media when you actually got to vote your mind? The media–negativity for profit and ratings.

Goes to show there's no link between the primaries results and the GE outcome. This basically puts to rest the Cintons argument for BIG states.

Not to mention 260,000 votes that were "lost" in Cali. Obama will win indy voters, and lookout for a Chuck Hagel /Bloomberg endorsement. HC needs to end this mess by getting out of the race. She has lost. Indy voters do not like her, they like Obama. Get over it Hillary.

We are headed toward change in this country. It will be very upsetting to the elite few who have controlled things for years. They will not give up the power easily. We have to stay strong, fellow Democrats, and put our personal preferences aside for the good of the Party. We need the next POTUS to be a Democrat who fights for the people. My preference is for Obama but I will vote the ticket in November no matter who wins.

bigben:

When the polls are in Clinton's favor her fans are sure to point that out but when they are not in her favor they mean nothing. Like the states she lost, the lies she told, the comments her surrogates made, get the pattern? Don't fall into the trap, most people just don't like her for a number of reasons and that is their right, just as it is yours to like her, but we must start thinking of what's best for the party and this drawn out bloodbath that she cannot win unless the pledge delegates are overridden is ensuring McCain a victory.

Hillary, move over and get out of the race. You can't win and because you can't win you have no positive consideration for the party and its reputation and its ability to fight the Republicans for the presidency.

Get out Hillary!

you know this poll is limited in all fairness I must say that. However at the start of this primary I really did not care who won I felt they both had the country best interest at heart and they were both very well educated people both with experience in life and careers. After seeing that video that she had finally been show to be a totally untrustworthy individual I would no longer support her in any way in fact i no longer have any respect for her as a women, senator, or candidate. She better watch out or at the end she will not even have her senate seat to go back to. and all you people trying to blame the media give me a break these are things we need to know if you can not trust the person on there resume when they are running for the most important job in our country your as bad as those whom still support bush and failed administration Go Obama 08

I think a lot of people will be saying "Got-Darn" america is she is nominated by way of taking "pledged" delgates or even Super delegate.

It will be the biggest political farce since… well Bush's selection in 2000

Its really pathetic that Hillary is staying in it…she is resorting to any tactic she can to be the Democratic Nominee.

She says that she wants to stay in it because every vote and voice deserves to be counted and heard. However, even her campaign said that their strategy was to be the Democratic Nominee by Super Tuesday! So, what would have happened to all the "voices" and "votes" after Super Tuesday if she was the Democratic Nominee by Super Tuesday?

She acts like a spoiled child!

It makes sense that in LA LA land the rock star would be ahead. Obama has shown no common sense throughout this whole process. He is smug and coy, criticizes others and doubts their integrity, and then he introduces Rev. Wright to the country. As a truly liberal democrate, I have never been in such a quandry. I cannot vote for McCain, but Obama has made it impossible for me to vote for him.

A leader who does not respect the will of the people should not be in the people will.
Obama is a better leader than Clinton.

Hillzilla is willing to destroy everything in her path.

obviously no one in the democratic party has the balls to stand up to the Clintons and tell them to shut up and sit down. I cannot understand the DNC letting this continue on so the split in the party becomes insurmountable in November. Clinton is like a dog with a big ham bone she will hang on and bite the first person that tries to take it away from her. It sure has been fun to watch the public strip away what she thought was hers by right. Namely the nomination.

I wonder if the recent focus on the story of Wal-Mart suing the brain damaged woman has had any negative effect on her ratings as she served on Wal-Marts Board of Directors for six years, but fails to mention that in her resume.

Shame on you CNN. I have had a lot of respect for you guys, but you are no longer the media Champ. I dont know who conduct these polls, but it seems that always you are bringing all negative stuff for Clintons. This is not fair, you cannot change the minds and hearts of millions of americans and the millions around the globe who see clintons as the leadres who can bring peace and prosperity for americans. Enough with these hate feelings, let the people decide whats best for them based on what the candidates are proposing for solutions.
Andy form Canada.

Hillary won California due to her coattailing the Clinton name. As the election going, people know more bad things about the Clintons and the better character of other candidate so they are having a well-informed opinion.

if it is a cnn poll i don't believe it!they are so biased about obama and negative for clinton, if it wasn't for clintons strngth she would of been done by now. why people haven't boycotted cnn i don't know. every day 24-7 they trash hillaRY. WHERE IS THE CBC article on obama this man has so many things going on like resko and other disreputable people he took money from and who paid for both senate runs, also he gave jobs to people who donated to him eg. the billonaire iraqi friend up on all kinds of money laundering charges and his son became an aide to obama in chicago the list goes on and on why is no one reporting all this?you will have him as a president and find he has ties to everyone that is not in the best interest of america.

Obama would have won California if it weren't for the stupid ballot mix-up.

OBAMA Is Stronger than Clinton NATIONWIDE that is why he is in the LEAD!!!

If ALL of the Votes were done over now that people have seen Hillary for who she and her husband REALLY are then it woudl be a LANDSLIDE!!

Just shows how smart Obama is. He's giving Hillary all the rope she needs to hang herself. And she's doing quite well in that aspect.

I misspoke. Oh look here comes Obama's preacher, and the Monika question, and my husband wants to fight, and lets fight Pelosi, and delegates can change candidates (disinfranchise the voters), and, and, and……NO Sen. Clinton, you lied and we all saw the film and finally realize that you have no itegrity, truth, honesty, and care for the people. You can not blame Sen. Obama for your short-comings. You are a user and a liar. If someone dos not agree with you he is dismissed. YOU ARE THE WEAKES LINK, BYE BYE.

Yeah bigben, and while we're at it, why don't we just completely discount the mathematical branch of Statistics as a whole? Samples are taken because censuses are unrealistic, a properly done sample will be representative of the whole population.

In fact, with a margin of error of +/-.02, the probability that Clinton is beating Obama in California is less than .001, but feel free to rely on that infinitesimal value.

I was on Hillarys side but, I can no longer tell if she's telling the truth about anything or not.

I can not vote for someone so untrustworthy.

Why didn't he win when it counted. Had he taken Cali. this would all be over. It just proves that he doesn't have what it takes.

Grover Cleveland, stated that a transfer of executive control from one party to another does not mean any serious distrubance of existing conditions. That is why, Obama is the better choice for the President of this distressed country.
Independent I am,
Bill Brown.

Is the Democratic Party beginning to show some signs of intelligent, appropriate vetting of candidates? Well, it's about time!

Now how about Pennsylvania?

Dear Clinton and Clinton supporters:

You are done! Please pull out of this race so you don't continue to kill the party. All the poles today confirm that all your negative attacks are not helping you in any way but having the opposite effect.

Please realize that the only way you can lead in delegates is if all the remaining super delegates vote for you and if you win 2/3 of the remaining pledged delegates. Aside from this numbers miracle, the only way you can win is by bringing Obama down by scaring whites into not voting for a Black man. As I said above, this has not worked and it will not work so please pull out before you cause further damage. By caring for the party now, maybe you can have a chance to run again in 8 years.

Hillary won California. Pelosi represents California.
As a superdelegate, she should support the wisdom of the people.
Her vote must go to Hillary!

Hey, Very Concerned American, who's got the worser negatives? When it comes down to it, Hillary's much more disliked than Obama. Your argument is terrible. Please think it over and come up with a new angle… just as Hillary's campaign always tries to do.

I hope Clinton stays in the race— see how Florida plays in this race along with Michigan.

She will def. win if Fla counts.

As far as superdelegates go, The blinded obama people think superdelegates will hurt the race???? News media calls it "behind the scene politics".
How about ol' Obamas' caucuses????? That isnt straight forward voting in a booth now is it??????????????? Stupid narrow-minded people who support him.

Before February 5th the polls in California showed Clinton beating Barack 49% - 19%. I come from California and there was a lot of early voting and most people voted before Barack won Iowa and received Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy's endorsements. I think if Super Tuesday had been held 3 days later Barack would have won the state.

Clinton's argument that only she can win the big states in the general election is ludicrous. California is too progressive for the old codger McCain and the right-wing republicans. California will remain a blue state and will support Barack 100% in November.

The Clintons and their big money friends will not be able to blackmail Nancy Pelosi. Barack has shown that he can raise the money needed for his campaign. What's next… Perhaps you should try kidnapping Harry Reid and holding him hostage.

So? What now, deny the voice of the people in the primary because of some skewed poll? Get over yourselves, Obama is none electable in the general, period.

i'm a CA voter who voted for obama in the primary and will do so in the general as well. but 'new'? this poll was taken pre-wright and pre-bosnia 'misstatements'. doesn't seem particularly relevant.

In reality, I use to like the Clintons but I am beginning to hate her. She lies too much, she is grimey, and if barrack is not carefull he will find out that she would destroy not only him but the whole demovratic party. She is still running because Bill has connections. Look, they just sent a letter to the House Speaker to keep her mouth closed about this race and stay neutral or else…….who does that and get away……The Clintons. Wow….Watch your back Barrack..Hillary, where is your tax information…..we want to see more things you are hiding in your closet.

These polls of 2000 people? How many people are California? Which area? Come on…………. I never get polled.

I have no doubt in the polls results as a gay male in CA I can tell you that especially in the gay and lesbian community that was mostly in support of her during the primary are now fully behind Obama. Reason that fact that she went so negative and then lied!!!! that was the major tipping in this race people complaining about CNN get over yourselves these issues matter to the people that watch CNN and love the network and there hard work to bring things in a non bias was unlike FOX the unofficial right network! CA will vote and go to who ever the democratic nominee is because they do not want to see mc same when but if they had a choice I am certain that it would be Obama 08 unless she somehow finds a way to lie or steal her way into the nomination

The percentage of Clinton supporters willing to peel off and vote for the Republican geezer…ehem…candidate is inconsequential. Obama will win the primary and build a new majority coalition. Folks, let's rally behind the winner and take back our government!! Obama 08!!

This is not surprising considering that Hillary has politically shot herself in the foot the last several days:

> Exposed by CBS News on Bosnia "heavy sniper fire"

> Exposed by her appointment calendar on her NAFTA support

> Rovian attempt to "kneecap" Barak

Far from being the Dem's presidential candidate, Hillary will have to fight hard to keep her carpetbagged Senate seat with all that has come out. America considers her to be seriously dishonest, a conclusion that is more than well supported by the facts.

Do Hillary supporters know anything about statistics? I am sure the sample was representative of the population. They cannot survey everyone in California, you know. Any time a survey does not show her leading, her supporters claim something is wrong with the survey. Where are these people when she is leading in the polls?

Hmmmm… Ok, so let's go with the polls. Let the other states decide!!! I am so tired of all of these polls… let the process continue! If you wanted a nominee before the process was over, then cut the delegates needed to guarantee that for the next election. Stop just trying to push Hillary out; I believe in Democracy.

Alot of people don't even bother to vote during Primarys. But, nearly EVERYONE VOTES IN NOVEMBER! So we'll see even more Independents and Democrats voting in November, and so far history and the polls show that Obama will get majority of these indepenedents and late voters.

Plus Obama has been winning the Red States that usually vote Republican!!! Obama has proven that he can get Republican States to vote for him, and that's important!!! He can take states away from the Republicans! The rest is as simple as getting the usual Blue Democrat States such as California to vote for him, and the poll shows California will do just that!!

Obama's ability to do just as good or better than Hillary in Blue Democrat States, and his ability to do even better in Red Republican States is what will easily make Obama the next President of the United States.

Obama 08!!!

hillary needs to hang it up, and its well time for her to endorse Obama, and hopefully accept a VP if offered. thats about the only thing that can save the democrats from self destruction if one or the other wins.

Democrat 08

Thanks California - the most progressive state in the nation.

Obama 08!

1. Anyone saying that 2,002 doesn't represent California doesn't know a thing about statistics, you could get an accurate sample size with half that.

2. Hillary won on the back of early voting. When the absentee and all the other 'late' reporting votes were counted, the delegate count was a lot closer. She barely won the state even with a big lead going in.

3. It's California, it's going to go blue no matter who runs. Who cares if Hillary can somehow pull it out in an election she is guaranteed not to be a part of?

Here we go with all the "I will vote for McCain if my candidate doesn't win" BS. McCain will do as he has already pledged to do and select judges to the Supreme Court like Roberts and Alito. That means that it is very likely that Roe vs. Wade will be overturned. Let's stop acting like spoiled brats here and actually stop and think about what is at risk if we refuse to go out and vote for the Democrat, no matter who it is, Obama or Clinton. I guarantee you that the Conservative Right will get out and vote for McCain even if they have to hold their nose to do it because they want Roe vs. Wade overturned, and it will only take one more judge to do it.

LMAO and who did they poll this time, Repuplicans!!!!

This is a total lie! Seriously, someone is messing with the numbers, because California voted Clinton in, hands down. Look - fudge the numbers all you want. It'll just serve to shock the pants off you when McCain beats both of these clowns.

There are several polls that suggest that Obama performs better against Mc Cain in California. With Hillary as the nominee the democrats might even be at risk losing California!!

Furthermore there is also an interesting Quinnipiac poll of Conecticut; Obama 52- Mc.Cain 35 (Obama+17), Clinton 45- Mc Cain 42 (Clinton+3)

She's still around to destroy the democratic party, She can't win…. But she still wont be a lady and bow out gracefuly…. And what I don't understand is why our democratic leaders are not standing up and saying enough is enough? They can't be so blind to not see what she is doing? " I THINK JOHN MCCAIN WOULD BE A BETTER LEADER" Than a fellow party member? And that's just what she's doing tearing down the party at any cost, than to see any democratic party member but herself "Democrate?" be in office. If not i'll sell out the party to the republicans. Every state that she did not win in she declared they don't matter… We the voters don't matter!? Now she wants the super delegates to also say that the american peoples votes doesn't matter, I'm the only thing that matters, Me, hillary the destoryer….

Why are people letting CNN, other media and the pollsters try to sway this whole election. If you watch the polls and the sometimes huge differences between one or the other all you can do is shake your head as they are just unbelievable and I believe purposely tainted. And if there is one out of several that looks better for Obama done around the same time frame they always quote that one. Such bias is shameful for CNN or any of the media. Whether we support Obama or not as a citizen you should want fair and accurate reporting.

Hillary GO AWAY. Take Bill with you. Obama is stronger, more intelligent, and a just plain nicer person than you or your bubba hubby.

I don't beleive you have a 37% favorable rating in the latest poll. That's way to HIGH.

GO AWAY

Dear eric in ohio.

Did you ever stop to think why FOX leans towards Clinton? For the same reason right winged talk show hosts want people to lie and vote for Clinton in the primary. Its because they want to keep this race going on as long as they can. They would rather run against hillary. Wake up. All the other fair minded news organizations is calling like they see it. Everyone but FOX that is. You are starting to sound like Rush.." The main stream media is …blah blah blah."

Those of you complaining about the survey being only 2,002 people (which is actually a huge sample size relative to most single state polls out there) are missing the point:

Clinton's victory in California is no more relevant to who the state will vote for in the general election than Obama's victory in Utah, because the profile of the voting population in each primary doesn't even remotely resemble the profile in the general election. A small, representative sample (a poll sampling the whole population) is a better indication than a large, non-representative sample (a primary of the Democratic voters only).

The second issue with using primary results as a guide is this: The majority of voters in the primary had a preference order either or "Clinton first, Obama second, McCain third" or "Obama first, Clinton second, McCain third", and the primary mostly measured whether more voters had the former preference list or the latter. In the general election, these groups will vote for the Democratic candidate regardless of the nominee. (As a side note: I believe that the percentage of Democrats claiming they would vote for McCain right now is roughly the same as the percentage of McCain supporters claiming they would vote for Gore in 2000…time heals all wounds before November).

More troubling is this: The poll was conducted from March 11-18, and Obama's support was likely to have changed a fair amount over the course of that week (both from the initial Wright soundbites and the speech he made following). It's a little bit old to just be released now.

I just watched Mr. Clinton's speech in PN today and he stated all the reasons that Hillary wants to do once she is elected. These are the very same issue's that were to be resolved during Bill's term. Why do we need another Clinton with the same old message???

No Californian wants to vote for the candidate with the 6th sense who sees imaginary whizzing bullets. Cause of fib was sleep deprivation? Who knows what she'll perceive is happening (and report to the public as truth) if she were to get a 3am call.

The percentage of Clinton supporters willing to peel off and vote for the Republican geezer…ehem…candidate is inconsequential. Obama will win the primary and build a new majority coalition. Folks, let's rally behind the winner and take back our government!! Obama 08!!

I wonder why CNN is promoting Obama? When asked one his aids could not think of a thing he had done as a Senator.
Hillary has co-sponsored over 250 bills with Republican co-sponsors.
she has been known for working with Republicans and could continue to do so
All the alleged lies she is charged with were all found not true. Have you heared of Ken Starr, after 8 years of investigation he could not charge Clintons with anything but lying about sex. The present Administration have rarly spoken the truth, why not bring that out.
I think you support Obama because he would be eaten alive by the RNC and their "swiftboaters" and get us anouther 4 years of the same as we have now.
I hope people wake up and see through your efforts to get McCain elected.

The sun is rissing on golden candidate Barack Obama from a golden statem, California. People are starting to realize what is at stake here and California has a lot on immigration, economy, war etc and barack is THE candidate to face off these challenges head to head rather than a candidate who will say or do thigs just to get elected. We are seeing fresh air in the air, the first time in American politics. Go Barack!

I wasn't a supporter but I actually had high hopes for Clinton. I initially thought that a joint ticket with her as president made sense in grooming Obama to be president in eight years. This was my thinking a year ago- now, I can't wait until she drops out. Hopefully it is with some grace.

Erica, Ohio — you obviously don't understand the science of sampling or statistics. Best to keep you uneducated thoughts to yourself, whether you're for Obama or not.

Way to go Very Concerned American! They are in for a rude awakening if Obama becomes the nominee. After the unfair scrutiny by the press (the unobjective media reports like paid Obama surrogates) and degrading statements by the Obama supporters, and lets not forget Obama's hypocrisy while he plays dirty politics,
I'm sure there is a higher percentage of Hillary supporters that will not vote for Obama. It is much higher then 28%. This comes from a Hillary supporter who once had high regards for Obama.

hillary— time for you to start crying again…. act like you would if you got the call at 3a.m…. national crisis to deal with and you start balling… real "presidential"…

Millions of Californians had spoken their voices in Feb. 5th. Clintion won. Two thousand people cannot repsesent millions. Results matters not polls.

That's a fact.

In a poll were held today in the Idaho, those "typical white people" would have also voted differently.

You liberals don't think there was much of a backlash out their but there was…..wait and see.

Anyway, I will not vote for a millionaire with "just words."

Well if you want to be honest I think April is going to be hillary's last month! In the wake of the negatives she brought to the campaign season, after they sift through her 1st lady doc's and find that she may have lied about something else, and then the fraud case with Paul who in my opinion overshadows Rezko in seedy dealings is all going to hit the fan in april! I bet money on it!! Being that Barack has tried to take the high road alot of Hillary's controversies have been forgotten. Rev. Wright is NOTHING compared to what hillary has in her closet! See everyone talks about the good ole clinton years but YET no one remembers that they set the scene for the current president…! People stop blaming Obama for Hillary's screw up…if anything he has saved her from a WHOLE LOT more!! But the gloves are off now…april is the month!!

Listening to all the Hillary supporters try to spin this is amusing.

Saying that if she loses they'll go to McCain is also laughable, only one can win right? Dream ticket is right out because Obama doesn't want to be partnered with Prime Evil. Hopefully Obama will win the nomination and the democratic party can start to heal the damage that HRC has created in her quest for power and suppressing the American people.

But if she wins I'll DEFENATELY vote for McCain because I refuse to live under a dictatorship. And that is exactly what it will be if Hillary is elected.

All truth be told From what my cousin told me in Californa that Hillary one the Primary because LA-RAZZA was handing out Absentee ballots to illegals and having them mail them in .

I don't believe in polls. If Obama is the democratic nominee, he will not be President! From all that I have read and all that I have seen about Obama , regardless how negative the media is about Clinton, she would be more electable than him. More of Obama supporters would flock to Hillary, than Hillary's to Obama. So all the pledge delegates and super delegates, if you want a democrat in the white house, you better help Hillary!

California is over and I think we all know who won there….and every other big state for that matter.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

nobody asked me!!! And I'm from CA.
I voted for Hillary and would again.
She is receiving such unfair coverage and being slammed from all sides. YET, nobody will hold Obama accountable for anything he does or says, he can do no wrong, yet he lies and distorts his record.
He can blow his nose on stage and everyone claps.
I will never vote for him.

I would suggest ALL of you go to
her website to find the truth….

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Puerto Rico Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila, superdelegate and Barack Obama supporter, was charged Thursday with 19 counts in a campaign finance probe, including conspiracy to violate U.S. federal campaign laws and giving false testimony to the FBI.

More change we can believe in!

I knew there was a lot I liked about California!!. You have definitely backed a winner this time.

What a ridiculous poll, this Californian is for Clinton. I'am so tired of hearing about Independents, don't forget it was the Independents that helped put George Bush in the White House the last two elections. Independents should not be allowed to vote for either Democratic or Republican candidates, they bring nothing but chaos to the party system. They need their own candidate.

Polls mean nothing, people lie in the polls as we have already seen in the primaries so far.

All Hitlery is doing is taking the democrat apart piece by piece. She won't win, she can try cheating and lying all she wants and hope the convention will have her to pull out a miracle for her to win, Obama is just to powerful and the numbers are in his favor, not Hitlery's.

Keep taking the party apart, it just shows what she would do to this country if she were president.

"Very Concern American" — you are an idiot… Obama is in the race because he is winning and will get the nomination. If you don't understand that then you need to go back to elementary school.

Big Ben,

Thank you for your scientific discription of the poll taken in California. what was it you said? " This poll is just stupid" ,"She won in California"?

Well my friend now it seems she may not be able to win in the big election. You know the one I'm talking about right?. The election the choses the president of the United States of America. How angry this must make you. Face BB she is done.

It is time for CNN to go to The Center for Media and Public Affairs. I also recommend that all bloggers go there.
On this site, you will find the actual facts of how the media reports the democratic nomination race . After a short time it is apparent that the media and CNN in particular, in the case of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, is not a reliable source for fairness or truth in reporting.
Please read it. CNN has become too biased for me to take seriously.
(I got the name of the website from FOX news who at least have the decency to report on the unfairness of reporting in the democratic race as well as to point out that a lot of polls are 'designer polls, heavily oversampled, not totally inclusive of conclusions etc. etc.)
I also note that Hillary Clinton gave an interview to Greta Susteran last night. It was very good CNN you should run it.
You should also print this on your blog although I doubt whether you will
susannah Jones

Hillary needs to realize she has lost and get out now. She and her her husband are driving a wedge between the democrats that is threatening to hand a victory to the republicans in the Fall. Hillary and Bill's attitude of if they don't win, then vote for McCain is not good for the party and will only cement the same failed policies for the next four to eight years that are destroying the United States. Grow up Hillary and get out now. Help support Obama now and let's give the democratic party the best chance to beat McCain and the Republicans in the Fall.

I just watched Mr. Clinton's speech in PA today and he stated all the reasons why Hillary wants to be elected and what she will do. These are the very same issue's that were to be resolved during Bill's term. Why do we need another Clinton with the same old message???

Hillary Clinton just as George W. Bush is suffering from "FRODO" syndrome. She is so drunk on power she's refusing to listen to common sense or the people. On one hand she believes Florida and Michigan votes should be counted as they are the voice of the people but, on the other hand she wants the super delegate in every state to vote in her favor even though the people didn't vote that way. Just as GWB she to should throw the ring back.

I really feel sorry for you Billary people. You listen but you do NOT hear; you look but you do NOT see. Billary does NOT care about you or the democratic party whatsoever; she/he only wants the white house and the power; they feel they are entitled. Don't you get it! How in the world could you want Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton?? Please, Obama is the only chance this country has to rid itself of the negativity and regain its esteem in the world with hope for uniting all of us once again. If the democratic nomination is somehow stolen from him, I will still write in his name, as will millions of others and McBush will probably get elected. A sad day for all.

Yeah and then the Hillary democrats will walk from the democratic nominee out of protest. We do not care for the DNC's actions to boost Obama and handicap Hillary.

We will protest in solidarity with the disenfranchised democratic voters.

So he will not get the vote of most democrats

The more voters learn about Obama, the more they DO NOT want him to win the nomination!

These polls shows CNN frustration because she is not quitting.
This poll contacted by phone How many CNN members answered those phone calls
shame on you CNN I heard this weekend you all have big birthday party go and spend the time there

Yeah right! I would love to know the demographics of this poll which they don't tell you.

Hillary said we can choose our church , pastor but not family member… Is bill her family member ( Blood tie) or just a husband? She could leave him after Monica scandal…! Why dis she stay?… She lost her mind and does not know what she said…. Go away with your LIES…!

Poll are polls, one day you up the next day your down. Just like life it is in constant flux.

The general election will be in November, 1001 things can happen between then and now.

Does anyone really believe these polls. They call it a general sampling but if your general sampling is in the well know Republican area of a state then the sampling is biased.

Let the citizens vote in Penn. and then in North Caroline and then let the "Super Delegates" have then say and then we will all be happy to celebrate with our new president.

President Hillary R. Clinton 2009
Three Cheers Hip Hip Ha-Hillary
Hip Hip Ha-Hillary
Hip Hip Ha-Hillary
A Woman of Substance, a Woman of Solutions and a Woman wih Savoir-Faire

I don't know what's the big issue about winning "THE BIG STATES" I mean, doesn't the people in the "LITTLE STATES" count too???

You see, that's why OBAMA will be the next president, the man is for everyone not just the "BIG STATES" but it's nice to see people wise up! Let's see who answers the call when the phone rings at 3:00am. Am sure it's not the person who claim they had to run from snippers…I never know that running includes gracefully walking….what do u think?

1st the Clintonites blame MSNBC for being fair to just Obama, and now it's CNN. Get a grip Hillary supporters. What you do in the dark will always come out in the light…and right now Hillary's (aka PICK ME PICK ME) spotlight is showing all types of skeleton's in her closet….

It will never be enough for clinton to be filed under 'also-ran', she feels that she must be the first female nominated by a major party to fail miserably in the general election due to incessant backbiting.

looks the voters in CA understand that HRC's "mispoke" was clearly a lie, further reinforcing the perception that Hillary is not honest and cannot be trusted.

This lie was significant, as a pillar of her campaign is her vast foreign policy experience, which based on her schedules as First Lady, seem primarily limited to luncheons and teas.

In the end, I'll vote for the Democratic nominee… let's rap this nomination ASAP!!!!!

How about Obama be president of California and let the rest of the country have someone else? He is too scary!!! We don't know where he stands on major issues and he is slow to change - contrary to his slogan. (i.e. 20 years with Wright in spite of the negative white america attitude!). America, wake up!!!!

all you CNN haters sure can't get enough of it!!!

Yeah and she was suppose to lost NH baaad, so bad Baracks campaign song was Signed Sealed Delivered.
Polls mean absolutely nothing in a time where 85% of students and increasing solely use Cellphones, along with many others, which by the way is what put Hillary over the top in Cali.

Ahem… that's because Obama is, by far, the better candidate.

In blue states and red states alike. Hillary's campaign was over a month ago and she's just desperately hanging on to a 5% chance to win now. Her time is done, and she should exit the race so we can focus on the general election in November.

Go Obama '08! God bless you!

Dear God. let Obama win not just this poll but the whole ball of wax. America needs him.

Maybe Hill and Bill want to split the party- and then get out. Hillary could wait for 4 years after McCain wins, all the while reminding voters that she told them Obama could not win.

Do you think this is beneath the Clinton's?

You don't know their history or understand the lust for power that both of them share!

As I have said before…What has Obama done???? He came from nowhere and now is the greatest since the napkin. Sorry there is no way he can bring the Rep and Dems together,If his own minister wants to spread hate in his church. And now so glad to see a lot of Dems are now seeing how Bias cnn msbc and all the other media are. See it was fine for Bush haters, but now between Hillary and Obama it is a whole different thing. I think the media who want to promote to the public only who they want, are "shooting theirselves in their own foot. In this case the public sees that Obama is the media's selection. They will continue to shove him down our throats. I have noticed the stars learned their lessons the last race.

Well there would go shes more electable arguement… I am sure she will have something to say like oh California isnt as important as the other big states but slightly more important than the smaller states. Also dont forget the delegates can change sides to me but lets falsely blame Obama for Florida and Michigan.. When is enough actually ENOUGH Hillary Clinton?

Obama 08
Austin Texas

It looks like you CNN are just going around looking for polls that favor Obama, and then you publish it. There are many more polls that have Hillary ahead of Obama that you never mention.

Hillary democrats will never vote for Obama.

Not out of spite, not because we don't like him- but out of principle.

The DNC and Democratic party elites, pre-elected Obama, then swayed early public opinion his way. The votes then followed the propaganda machine, the media bias and favored Obama.

But Florida and Michigan voters disagreed, so their votes got thrown out.

Now the DNC is further rigging the process by trying to get the superdelegates to follow the popular vote, rather than letting them do the job they were created for. Anything to install their pick, Obama, as nominee.

Risk losing the party faithful democrats just to gain the independents and the Democratic Party will lose.

It is 3AM and the phone in the White House is ringing… Do you want someone who is "sleep deprived" because it is 3AM to answer the phone and misspeak?

Why is it that Clinton supporters are so blinded by the polls unless they favor them? They simply refuse to accept the truth!

And the only….and I mean the ONLY reason why Clinton and her supporters are holding on for this Democratic nomination - is because they believe that some miracle of bad judgment from Obama or some hidden skeleton will appear over the next 10 primaries. (WHICH IT WON'T) And then if that doesn't work, you're hoping the superdelegates will overturn the popular vote for a guy who already has more pleged delegates AND more states won???

Anyone wanna explain that logic?

Now, if you want your nominee to go down swinging by fighting on the issues then fine. But when the dust settles know that the better candidate won. And that's Barack Obama.

People are finally seeking her true nature. Although she will never do it, she would really implode if she releases her tax forms (especially after her campaign dared Obama to do so. He responded ), the blackout portions of the White House papers (that had nothing to do with national security, like the fund raising scandal), Her earmarks and the list of library donors.

"The survey of 2,002 California voters was conducted by telephone from March 11-18, and has a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points."

well, these surveys are not accurate. People will say OK to both parties, just to get them of their skin, or bc they are not decided yet. Then they vote for whom they want anyway. Kind of mean, but why not? I am independent.

So what, the poll is irrelivant. California has already voted and as we have seen, polls change. Look at how you guys at CNN have turned around the polls to put Obama ahead while Clinton topped those polls for months.

Also this is what you are going to get when Obama supports who are so-called independants return to their party (Republican) after they have screwed up the true results of the primaries. Lets now go poll the red states where Obama won. Again you will see the results much different than the primaries showed.

david March 27th, 2008 2:20 pm ET said:

"California is over and I think we all know who won there….and every other big state for that matter.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT"

Yup. And we know who has won the most states, the most pledged delegates, and the most votes. Just in case you and all the other die-hard Hillary supporters are so far disconnected from reality, the answer is Obama.

Where does CNN get these PRO OBAMA polls. I have been watching several polls within the last week and Sen Clinton has been doing pretty good and AHEAD of Obama in some.

Just a few days ago a new Rasmussen poll showed more Democrats supporting Hillary in the general election- 71-64 and viewed Hillary more favorably than Senator Obama- 74-67.

Why isn't CNN highlighting any of these polls? Maybe it's because their golden boy isn't leading in those particular polls.

CNN your bias is showing.

Obama must have also "mis-spoke" when he referenced a magazine article in his book, then was called out because NO article ever existed….then he changed his mind about which magazine he meant, and THAT magazine STILL said no article ever existed……lies? Hmmmm

PPIC is supported by the James Irvine Foundation: if you think they are uninvested in Sen. Obama, look them up. Sen. Clinton is by no means a far behind as you imply & would be a far better candidate.

This says the poll does not match with what the voters vote for.

This only solidifies the fact, that as long as Hiillary continues to run her sore loser campaign, the less she is liked by her own party.

I use to be a strong Clinton support with much respect for the Clintons. Now I feel as if Hillary only wants the office no matter the cost and doesn't care about the American people So all that she preaches about proposing solutions for Americans is a bunch of bull because if she practiced what she preached, then she would bow out gracefully. She is really hurting her chances for any future political career.

Here was have two Democrats with the finest potential who've come along in a long time … and they gare oing to throw it all away. Just think … we have several more months of Clinton & Obama ripping each other … and the Democratic Party … to shreds. McCain doesn't have to do that much … just stand on the sidelines and watch the bloodbath. If this keeps up until and during the Democratic Convention, Mrs. McCain can start picking out china patterns for the White House.

Wow check out the idiots who think that since Clinton won Cali in the primary that it soemhow doesnt matter than she almost loses Cali to McCain, while Obama kills McCain in Cali.

Its like the little kids who cover their ears sand say "lalalalalalalala I cant hear you" when they are being told a truth they don't like.

and then theres the idiots who think they speak for all CLinton supporters with their "we wont vote for Obama" - - as if they had a meeting of clinton supporters and all jointly decided not to support Obama if he's the nominee.

So, we have Clinton supporters here who are denying reality, speaking as if they will all act in unison when Obama is the nominee, and explaining away harsh reality by referring to irrelevant history….

Now, you tell me wise reader, which candidates supporters are the ones TRULY acting like a "cult"?!?

The new poll does not take into account the large numbers of Latino and Asian voters that will not vote for Obama in the general election.That will make Mccain the likely winner in November.

She reminds me of "Mike Huckabee", Has no chance of winning but she still in it. Get out NOW!!!

She won the primary over OBAMA, RIGHT? HILLARY 08

I feel as time gets closer, more people will see the true Obama. I was at first for him, but not now. He 'enjoys being in the news' too much. He will say anything to be in the news. This is scary. He actually does not stick to politics. I am now for Clinton, and strongely feel more will join for CLINTON.

Alright Suzy great comments!!

California is for Hillary get over it.. Puerto Rico is for Hillary too. Stay in the race Hillary. Obama is up now but will fail.
The more voters learn about Obama, the more they DON'T want him for President!!! Independent and Republicans are voting for him because he is EASY to beat. He is a weak Whiner.
JUST WORDS, WORDS MATTER, CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN NOT.

Hillary/Edwards 08

Thank you California for supporting such a great candidate. I'm sure you will show the country honor and integrity by voting Barack '08. It was only a matter of time before the truth about McCain and McClinton came out, and now you are seeing it. Obama '08 All the Way!

Clinton's supporters cry about every non-Clinton story being media bias and all that garbage. Get over it, Clinton is doing terribly and the press is simply pointing it out.

THe scary thing about this poll for Hillary Clinton is that it was taken March 11-18, which was during the REV wright FLAP. And it was taken PRIOR to the Bosnia lie. Also a NEW poll out shows her with an unfavorable rating of 48%, which is a new high for her. FOX news, MSNBC, and CNN have this same poll posted on their websites. It also shows the REV wright flap had only a slight affecton obama's favorable ratings . He dropped 2%. All of these Hillary extremists talking about voting for Mccain if obama wins are absolute scum. Im a big obama supporter but i will never vote for John Mccain! But hey John mccain voted for the war and so did Hillary, so i guess they are not that different after all. No wonder why her supporters tend to say theyll vote for Mccain. They dont mind 100 years in Iraq. They just care about their Hillar winning.

CNN get your nose out of Obama's butt, you're beginning to smell as much as he does. Obama will not unite this Nation, he is a liar and hate monger. Their is a lot more negative about him if you CNN would tell the truth.

To all you Obama Supporters,

Hillary is not splitting the party, she finishing the game. Fact is Obama cannot win either. It is going to overtime. How would you feel if you were at a football or basketball game and your team was down at halftime? Would you want them to walk away and forfeit the game?

And further, Supers are the overtime voters. You have no right to tell them how to vote, just as nobody has a right to tell you how to vote. It isn't there job to give it to the person who has a slight edge. It is their job to vote for who they feel can win based on more than just the virtual tie that makes their votes come into play. Quit being such hypocrites.

With McCain being a left wing Republican this general election contest WILL be about courting as many indepedents as possible. I'm sorry die hard Republicans and Democrats, this time the indepedents will shine.

The Democratic nominee will HAVE to be the person who wins more indepedents than McCain. There is no questioning that. Obama, has showed time and time again he does not only well among Democrats, but also a suprising amount of Republicans and VERY well among Indepedents (thats me btw). Mrs. Clinton, has shown an unfortunate ability to alienate Indepedents. The numbers don't lie. (Unlike her…lol)

Mark my words, the nominee who gets more indepedent votes in Nov. will be the President.

Those Clinton supporters who say they will vote McCain over Obama if Hillary loses the nomination. I would love to talk to you a year later when McCain is President and you are crying your eyes out because you are complaining that the government does nothing to help ordinary Americans.

Momentum here in Los Angeles is growing. I see Obama bumper stickers everywhere. At the gym they are selling Obama Momma tshirts. Hillary has turned off a very important state.

When is obama going to get out of this race, there is no way he can win. He should just bow out now. Don't go away mad, just go away.

It's not a big deal, look at the national polls, HILLARY is still leading at a comfortable margin. 2000 people vs. millions in CA population? And what about NY, NJ, TX, FL, MA, OH & PA? Don't tell me he's leading there too? CNN, you are one biased station, I love you!!!!!!

I believe this poll to be 100% accurate. I'm another California Democrat that voted for Obama in the primary and wouldn't dream of ever voting for Hillary, based on her utter lack of character. However I will say that I'd never dream of voting for John McCain. No, if Hillary were somehow able to steal away the nomination I'd have to cast a protest vote for Ralph Nader.

The new poll does not take into account the large numbers of Latino and Asian voters that will not vote for Obama in the general election.That will make Mccain the likely winner in November.Independents will split between Nader and Mccain.

Remember, Hillary Clinton only won California by 10% with 25% of Californians voting early. There weren't many debates or avenues for people to get to know Obama with respect to the early voters. The actual votes cast on primary day were extremely close between the two. So, after almost 2 months of continuing to get to know Obama and seeing more from Hillary Clinton's campaign, it's not surprising that support shifted in California in favor of one of the candidates.

Duh…you don't need polls to tell you that. Everyone now knows that Hillary lies through her teeth. She is a liar and always have been. They have been cheating all they way through her so called "35 years". People are smarter than that and seeing through this. What I don't understand is that, why are people voting for her even after knowing how FRAUD she is? Will she be here if she was a man? Or will she be out long time ago.

/Obama for President.

Hillary is the same old washington.what gives her the right to lie about
being shoot at .this is disrespect look at all the troops she dishor. this why she is can't be our leader

You will continue to see more and more of these kind of polls unless Hillary does what is best for her party and goes back home to New York.The only way for her to win is to totally destroy Obama.So far her best shots havn't worked.As a registered Republican I might consider voting for Obama.I would write in Lou Dobbs before voting for Hillary

I think it is funny about all of the polls that are taken. One poll is the voters who will not vote for barack because they support Hillary, about 37% of hillary voters said they wouldn;t vote for barack in the general election but only 18% of barack supporters wouldn't vote for Hillary. So, you Hillary supporters are going to vote for another bush and then cry aobut the poor job he is doing. Then the only people you have to blame is yourself. Let's stop putting the blame on other people and start putting the blame on where it belongs.

This isn't surprising in the least. CA's primary took place before Hillary revealed her super-negative-win-at-all-costs-to-hell-with-democracy side. The only people having "buyer's remorse" are Clinton supporters, because HER personality is the one that has changed so drastically in the last 2 months. Obama is pretty much the same candidate he was at the start of the race.

And to all you WHINERS complaining about CNN posting this as news, well guess what - IT IS NEWS! Your candidate is the one who keeps pushing the whole "big state" argument, so a poll that indicates Obama doing better than her in the BIGGEST state is very relevant. I know the truth hurts, but deal with it.

SUZY………..The Puerto Rico Governor actually came out for HILLARY, and NOT for Obama. You seem to be catching what Hillary has…….. fabricate the story if it doesn't suit your needs. Go drink your Koolaid and let the rest of the country have an HONEST candidate (not her!!)

(and I'm one of those Independents who go with Obama or McCain)

All the polls said Hillary would LOSE NH by double digits. Most of the pundits were pleased and some were even euphoric. When the results were in they were at a loss for an explanation. The lesson is you should take polls with a grain of salt. Sample size and composition as well as the phrasing of the questions can all be manipulated to acheive the results you want. Always remember someone pays for the poll.
As the Hispanic and Asian vote goes, so goes California. Older black voters are taking note of the "mistreatment" of Hillary. they also don't like that the black church was thrown under the bus with grandma. Unlike the young voter, older voters actually vote in November. The nomination can't be stolen because Obama doesn't own it.

I am an Obama supporter but I am beginning to get turned off by all the sniping and infighting from BOTH SIDES! All this does is create division and animosity in the party and in the general public and help the news organizations.

I sure wish that someone woule pull the plug in Hillary Clinton. Her Husband, Bill, has made a mockery out of his legacy. Hillary is destroying the prospect of ever having a legacy. (But she may embellish one anyways just like the Bosnia sniper fire incident.) I have never trusted her. In addition what is she hiding anyway. Please release you tax returns so this race can be over and done with. We all know that the tax returns will put an end to her candidacy!!!!

Hillary will not and should not be President, If she will tell a lie about Bosnia ( Which was unnessary) How can we believe anything she says? And then say she misspoke. not that many words. Obama ithe best canidate for this job.Sincehe can`t be speared personally, Go after someone he knows who is not even in the race for President. GO OBAMA08

I truly believe in the end, the American people will migrate to the best possible representative of "ALL" of the United States citizens for President Of the United States.

In all that I seen and heard over the course of this current election process, Sen. Obama appears to be the best hope for this nation and it's future course domestically and Internationally. He also would have been a great choice in 2000 and 2004. Wouldn't it have been great to avoid the mess and pain of 9/11. Wouldn't it have been great to avoid the current economic crisis we are now in. Wouldn't it have been great to have a real executive watching over FEMA and not an oil tycoon.

Some of you Obama haters, and I do mean haters, need to read what the international citizens think of our election process, our current president and our 2008 candidate hopefuls. The rest of the world wants Sen. Obama to work with them. Not the other two choices. The only International executives that want to work with the other candidates are those who like things just the way they are and want to continue getting fat off US tax dollars.

I have witnessed countless negative comments about all of the candidates that have absolutely nothing to do with the issues surrounding and affecting each and every American life. All I can do for those who harbor those hateful thoughts and ideals is to wish you a peaceful life and respectfully ask that you do just a little homework before spewing hateful thoughts in black and white that only incite others to be hateful and cruel. All of the candidates deserve a chance to tell the people what they can do to help us and to make us a strong and working nation. A nation to be respected by it's citizens and the rest of the world.

I personally think that we have tried el