April 3, 2008
Posted: 04:32 PM ET
 Corzine and Murtha are supporters of Clinton.
Corzine and Murtha are supporters of Clinton.

(CNN) — Two prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton suggested Thursday the New York senator needs to best rival Barack Obama in the total popular vote to have any chance at winning her party's presidential nomination.

In separate media interviews, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine and Pennsylvania Rep. Jack Murtha both indicated they believed Clinton will be unable to convince enough superdelegates to support her if she finishes second to Obama in both the pledged delegate count and the popular vote.

Speaking on CNBC, Corzine suggested it won't be enough for Clinton to argue she deserves the nomination because she has won more crucial swing states than Obama — a talking point the senator's campaign has long argued.

"I think it would be a very hard argument to make," Corzine said of that position. "I'm a very aggressive supporter of Senator Clinton, but I think you need at least a popular vote."

Corzine also suggested he himself may cast his superdelegate vote for Obama should Clinton fail to win the popular vote, though the New Jersey governor insisted he thought Clinton would come out on top in that count if the Florida and Michigan contests were counted.

Murtha echoed Corzine's sentiments in an interview later Thursday, saying, "Clinton has to win Pennsylvania…She has to be ahead in the popular vote to have any chance at all of getting this nomination."

Clinton is heavily favored to win in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, though recent polls suggest Obama may be narrowing the gap there.

Most estimates currently have Obama leading Clinton by approximately 700,000 votes in the popular vote. If the results of Michigan and Florida — the two states that were penalized for moving up its primary — are factored in, the gap is approximately half that.

Re-vote efforts in both states failed last month and it appears highly unlikely the results of either of the earlier contests will stand, meaning Clinton will need to achieve decisive wins in several of the 10 remaining primary contest to have a chance at overtaking Obama in the popular vote count.

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton


Independent for Obama   April 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

That is about the most intelligent remark I have heard from the Clinton camp.

Thomas   April 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Release me from this state of unrest, by melting the ice that grow in my chest. These things I live to see, have poisoned my eyes and made me blind. I am stuck under the clouds, like a rock under the sea. The rain pours from my eyes, like tears from the sky. Sorrow flow like a river that is flooding my soul. I hear voices that tell me not to despair: that all I need is a breath a fresh air. As I look up from the bottom and search for the light. A glimmer of hope seems to brighten the sky. Like a voice from the heavens screaming for chang. Saying we can do it, if we all work together. My heart seems to warm, the ice starts to melt. the clouds seem to part, and the river to dry. A hand reaches out to pull me out of the mud. I see millions of people just like me; working together to pluck the rock from under the sea. The things we can do whe we all work as one.
VOTE FOR OBAMA, AND WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF THE LIGHT!

John   April 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Some of the Obama supporters are as usual, miscontruing the comments of Governor Jon Cozine (D) NJ,and Rep. Jack Murtha (D)PA.Simply put,what the two Democrats are highliting-is the stratergy they are working on to push Hillary to the finish line at the GE.It is Hillary all the way.

Jessica   April 3rd, 2008 5:47 pm ET

You can't just count Florida and especially Michigan without having complete re-votes. Obama wasn't even on the ballot in MI, and who knows how being told their votes weren't going to count affected turnout in both states.

You can't guarantee that Clinton would win under different conditions, or that her margin of victory would be enough to overtake Obama.

RFB   April 3rd, 2008 5:46 pm ET

Unity, you're forgetting the remaining States that haven't voted as yet. DUH!

Nikki, he souldn't have been on any of the ballots! DUH!

Dave   April 3rd, 2008 5:46 pm ET

If Rush would have called Hillary the things Randi Rhodes said, you can bet it would have made the Political Ticker.

dave   April 3rd, 2008 5:46 pm ET

first, in order to be transparent, am a mccain supporter….
but even if the delegates from MIch and FL are not seated, HRC can very well argue that she has accumulated VOTES from those states,
in fact a much greater # of total votes in FL and MIch than obama…
so in fact, the DNC can say that the delegates from those 2 states should not count, but in terms of the total # of votes achieved,
the total # of votes from the 2 disputed states are a strong bone of contention….. especially since Obama is in really no position to be claiming as HIS the uncommitted voters…. these could as easily be attributed to Richardson, or Edwards or Kucinich or Gravel or the other dems in the race at the time, but for Obama to claim the entire lot of uncommitted VOTES is illogical, unfair and theft….
MCCAIN/CONDI 2008!

LULU   April 3rd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

GET THE MESSAGE YOU OBOMA ARE A JOKE AND LIER !!!! WE WILL FELL APART IN A HEART BEAT IF YOU WERE IN CHAGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HH   April 3rd, 2008 5:45 pm ET

And the music is getting louder. It will be so great to see the monopoly of familes will finally BE OVER-BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON NO MORE.

The last time I checked this was America and should not be run by 2 families.

Rob   April 3rd, 2008 5:44 pm ET

I am constently amazed that the Clinton people keep talking in terms of "All she has to do is [fill in here] and she can still win the nomination." By saying she needs to win the popular vote is as good as an admission of defeat. There is only one thing driving the Clinton campaign now — ego.

Jesse   April 3rd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Why doesn't Rev. Wright answer questions. Where is he looks to me like he is hiding.

Hillary?   April 3rd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Can one Hillary supporter talk about her character and integrity? Can you say anything good about her without putting another candidate down? Just one. And if you sound like you're 13 years old, I'll ignore the comment.

Go our girl   April 3rd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Hillary will win! Obama will lose! Hillary 08

Candice   April 3rd, 2008 5:43 pm ET

Thank you Maxine! If this farce had Obama as the headliner he would have been drummed out of the DNP after 3 straight losses let alone 11. Hahaha

If HE had pulled all the crap he's put up with since Feb. 5th not to mention campainging against and ENTIRE family of political pirahnas who claim "this is the fun part", would we even be having these conversations? No. MI/FL would be a moot point, as would all the other distractions ala the kitchen sink.

This is why I love Barack's campaign and his continuing to rise above the sewer he's trying to help free the entire country from and dolng a darn good job of it too on every level.

S. Shay   April 3rd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

Wow. Finally someone in her camps speaks the truth, Lord knows she hasn’t. The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton is going to have to blow Barack clean out of the water in the next few contests. That won't happen. But she’ll try her best to sully him up (she’s already started with that plant of an ignoramus who was hounding Obama for a picture earlier. He was obviously trying to make the point that Obama would pose for photo opts but wouldn’t pose with the average Joe. Well I suppose not when the average Joe is ignoring Obama’s security and insisting on taking a picture when he’s clearly been told no.) I fully expect the cr*p to hit the fan and I fully expect the American people will respond by giving even more to Obama’s campaign and by voting for him in the primaries. It’s over Hillary. And by the way, I saw that your campaign got $20million in March, PAY YOUR BILLS!!!

Mike   April 3rd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

You Clinton supporters are completely out of your minds. You live in a fantasy and you are supporting a lying manipulative fraud, just like the one we currently have in the White House. If you can't see the writing on the wall now then nothing can help you. Denial is such a powerful thing.

Olga   April 3rd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

it should be "beat" not "best"
(CNN) — Two prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton suggested Thursday the New York senator needs to best rival Barack Obama in the total popular vote to have any chance at winning her party's presidential nomination.

David, it's still snowing in Des Moines   April 3rd, 2008 5:42 pm ET

I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

A true Democrat
& Obama supporter

Vote: OBAMA 2008

Lin   April 3rd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Without the super-biased caucuses, Mr. Obama would have dropped the race even before John Edwards. Obama, could you please come up and explain how your people cheated during the Texas caucuses by locking Clinton supporters out of the caucus sites? I'd vote for McCain if you get the nomination, he maintains his descency during the campaign at least.

C Watson   April 3rd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

The 700,000 lead commonly referenced in the media is leading as states like IA, NV, ME, WA have not been included with finalized totals yet so the popular vote hole is current bigger and around 827,000 according to RealClearPolitics.

She’s simply too far behind in pledged delegates to catch Obama there. She’s has to win all the remaining states by much bigger margins than she’s been able to do in any of the forty or so previous contests aside from Arkansas.

Her only realistic chance to keep her hopes alive for the popular vote is a good knee capping before PA (like she did in Ohio & Texas). That’s what I expect she’ll try. Right now with Obama so close in PA, that may have to come sooner rather than later.

It is Hillary's MO so we'll see some fireworks in the next couple of weeks.

RFB   April 3rd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Can you name three reasons why you would vote for obama?
It can't include He speaks good, Looks good in a suit (not), Lies Lies Lies. Anything else does not apply to him!!!

suresh   April 3rd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Chuck;

Your calculator needs new batteries. obama is ahead of Hillary by 130 pledged delegates. If you give Hillary 89 and Obama 69 delegates from PA, he is still ahead. How come you come with Hillary getting ahaead?

David, it's still snowing in Des Moines   April 3rd, 2008 5:41 pm ET

Let us unite around Barack Obama!

I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

A true Democrat
& Obama supporter

Vote: OBAMA 2008

Go Home Hillary   April 3rd, 2008 5:40 pm ET

How can she win the popular vote, when she's not popular. Nobody in their right mind likes her.

Mike in Sac   April 3rd, 2008 5:39 pm ET

So, basically, are these superdelegates starting to acknowledge that they may not have Hillary as the winner of this primary? Seems this is the first step away from the kitchen sink and towards Party unity.

Sara from Arizona   April 3rd, 2008 5:39 pm ET

Setting the stage for voter fraud, if she does mnot win the popular vote. Obama 08′

California Voter   April 3rd, 2008 5:39 pm ET

To Kenneth Woodard: Can you state ANY reasons why Obama deserves the nomination? (pretty words can't be one of them)

debra   April 3rd, 2008 5:38 pm ET

Three reasons I support Hillary Clinton.
1. Her Health care plan is better than Obamas
2. She has a plan to fund innovation into new forms of energy.
3. Even if she doesn't always make right decisions the first time like Obama claims he would, she works to fix the bugs in it. No ones perfect- everyone makes mistakes- even Obama. She is a fighter and stands up for what she believes is the right thing to do.
4. She will end this war
5. She will put people back to work and fix NAFTA.
Shall I go on?

whites.dudes.4.obama08   April 3rd, 2008 5:38 pm ET

holdn second americans ppls whats going on ? my question

why hilarrys keep said obana cannot win in general election ?

why hilarry cannot win rigth now ? in this primary ? i means ?

we r dumb anymore this is 2008 ! nomore royaly familys in our house bush clinton bush clinton for 28 years no this years obama -macain 08

Frances M   April 3rd, 2008 5:37 pm ET

the reason that Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot is because he excercised poor judgement. If should have known that Michigan and Florida are important factors in the democrats winning the election in November and they are not going to discount their votes so he should have had the foresight to put his name on ballot in the event the race was close.

Ann   April 3rd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

So the way that you are treating Hilary and her supporters (because we are dumb) we are just going to vote Obama in November..everything all sweet and neat.

In the beginning I did not care who won the Democratic, anyone would be better than a Republician. I still feel that way but I don't like how Hilary is being treated by Obama and Obama supporters. I may just stay home in November.

jf   April 3rd, 2008 5:35 pm ET

Obama can't win this. So far a biased media has been able hide most of his sins. But I guarantee you that the Republicans are going to fry this guy. And, rightly they should. You can't put a "spin" artist in the White House. Infatuation is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't solve problems the likes of what we are facing. The one good thing is that if this guy somehow manages to get into office, it will be so bad that people hopefully will never be this stupid again.

Obama Richardson   April 3rd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Very interesting. At least these men are honest. Wonder what the Clinton's will do about the one who said he may vote for Obama instead?

I am dismayed that there is still talk about IF FL and MI are counted. Although they may all find a way to seat their delegates at the convention, the original primaries canNOT be counted. There was no campaigning and Obama wasn't even on one of the tickets. Dream on.

Raoul   April 3rd, 2008 5:34 pm ET

Hummm, just wondering if Hill will endorse Obama if he become the nominee!

Rodney King   April 3rd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG!

elis   April 3rd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

I am sure those two are as corrupt as the Clintons. There is no other excuse for backing criminals.

Trent Lamb   April 3rd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

I just saw how much money that Obama & Clinton has made in March. Has this become a race to see how much money that a candidate can spend during their campaign. I was wonderng Just how much that both of these candidates have spent as to date. I will vote for the one who has spent the least amount of money. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a campaign is ridiculous when there are so many peolpe that could use this. Is this what this country has come to, who can and spend the most during their Presidential campaign. Its no wonder that other countries see us as a self centered country. God Help Us.

Austin 4 Hillary   April 3rd, 2008 5:33 pm ET

Shirley, Sillicon Valley, CA:

Why is Hillary a disgrace? It enrages all of you is that you cannot get her out of the picture, What are you really afraid of? If you have so much confidence that your candidate will win–then what are you worried about? You all are nothing but bullies. Your verbal behavior is very hostile. Read your comments. Leave her alone. You should be focusing on Hope and Unity–isn't that what you and your candidate talk about. What about his damage control speech? Talk about double standards. HC has every right to stay in and work for the job she wants. But all this talk is typical of Obama supporters the politicians and non-politicians and the pundits. Bullies usually are envious and resentful. You all fit the definition well!

I'll ask again–what are you all really afraid of?

coco   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Yeah "Obama08″ tell her to 'stop being a selfish pig'……lol, that was funny. Seriously Hillary needs to admit that we just have a better option for president and Americans want president Barack Obama. We've been waiting a long time for the man!

Blind Leading the Blind   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Crooks sure do flock together alright with the Clinton Campaign.

This guy Murtha was the guy who was ready to accept a bribe in a setup run by the F.B.I.

He had a good conscience to expect he was being setup and backed off.

Murtha is a corrupt politician. No wonder he is backing Clinton.

RF   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

Wow! Latest PA poll has OB down two points. Wait! He just took the lead. No wait. It's Tied. No Wait. He just took the lead!.
You would think this is basketball.
Change for the sake of changing. Not worth it.

H   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

DEB
I AGREE WITH YOU. ONLY THING BO HAS IS MONEY AND YOU KNOW MONEY IS THE ROOT TO ALL EVILS. HE DOES NOT DESERVE THE VOTES BUT CAN BUY THEM.

Scott C   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

She has to win by 10%+ in EVERY remaining state to gain the popular vote lead.

We can plainly see she wont get that in Pennsylvania, and see will lose North Carolina, meaning she will need to win the other remaining states by 80%+ to gain the popular vote lead.

She CAN NOT win now.

Even with Florida and Michigan seated as is… which will not happen anyway.

Matt K   April 3rd, 2008 5:32 pm ET

After she loses the nomination, she'll run as an independant. As absurd as her campaign has been, would anyone put that past her?

sally, new york   April 3rd, 2008 5:31 pm ET

there's a great article on realclearpolitics today showing how easily she can win the popular vote - all you nay-sayers should check it out.

John   April 3rd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

Obama supporters,have you read the latest National poll on what voters think of the three presidential contenders? Ok,here is the bombshell- 37% Nationally,say Obama is inexprienced. - 24% rate Hillary untrustworthy - 27% just don't want McCain in the White House because of the Iraqi war.It does not take a rocket scientist to interprate where the voters are coming from!

David, it's still snowing in Des Moines   April 3rd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

Let us unite around Barack Obama!

Clinton supporters, I thank you but now it is time to come back home. We will leave the light on for you and the door is always open. Your support for Mrs. Clinton has been un wavering.

Thank you-
A true democrat
and Obama supporter

Jesse   April 3rd, 2008 5:30 pm ET

Kenneth Woodard

1. Rev. Wright!!!!!!!!
2. Rev Wright!!!!!!!!
3. Rev. Wright!!!!!!!

yns   April 3rd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! You go! I am behind you all the way! Don't let the "good ole boys" try to chase you out of this one! You are the ONE for PRESIDENT! You get my vote, or I don't vote!

Nando, Florida   April 3rd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

The Hillary Dream is like the Black and White Western Movie when I was a kid . When the Cowboys get shot and they Bleed for like 3days walking in the Desert with there canteen out of water. A slow long bleeding death is what America is watching.

becky   April 3rd, 2008 5:28 pm ET

i'm getting a little sick of super what evers, this the [united states of america,this the greaest country in all this planet,i as an american i a'm very proud to be one,i if around will never let anyone disgrace her or condiumn her in anyway shape or form,i have never been so ashamed of how the people of american have treated her we cut down her trees we plute her waters,we poison her air,we destory her wild life that was here before we were.it's now time that we pay her back and treat her like the beaitful country that is ,protect her ,build her back to the wonder she is and put her states and cities back to the way they use to be,and praise her because that why everyone wants to be here,but we still need to keep in mind that people in the past and the future will always want to hurt her ,we as her children need to make sure this never happens again,we need to make sure whomever we put in office can and will protect this wonderful [lace we call america home sweet home and i as an american believe that hillary clinton would be the best person for this job. god bless america!

Jeff Daniels   April 3rd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

It appears to me that the only people who still beleive that Hillary can win over Senator Obama is Hillary, Bill and Chelsea.

Senator Clinton is quickly becoming a very lonely women; and she must do the honourable thing and concede defeat!

Bayou Joe   April 3rd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

Too bad you Obama supporters can't see the forest for the trees. Clinton may not have a chance to catch up, but she is the better candidate. 3 reasons . Supports America, Her husband supports America and her followers do too. That is why Hillary Democrats see
McCain as their only alternative.

So get ready to lose in November.

Dora   April 3rd, 2008 5:27 pm ET

In Missouri only St. Louis and Kansas City voted for Obama the rest of the state voted for Hillary. So I wonder how the kool aid drinkers can say he won Missouri.

Elana, Melbourne Florida   April 3rd, 2008 5:25 pm ET

Why dosn't anyone ask hillary about the PLEDGE SHE SIGNED about not counting the florida and michigan votes. Oh yeah- that only mattered if she was winning. What a loser. by the way, I live in florida and knew my vote wasn't going to count…it will in November though, and its counting for OBAMA!

Independent   April 3rd, 2008 5:25 pm ET

who cares about the popular vote - americans cant be trusted to decide on their government - its up to those already in government to decide…and the pledged delgates dont matter! do they? I thought that everybody could just do whatever they wanted? Why cant we just listen to whose is yelling the loudest? Isnt that what makes the most sense?

Eric   April 3rd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

The only thing to due is for the Hillary supporters to stop acting like babies and endorse Obama. Do not let the media turn the party against each other. A unify party we can win.

Nikita   April 3rd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Why don't we just linch Hillary Clinton since demoralizing is not sufficient. I have never witnessed a more biased campaign, super delegates included. This is an outrage. We will be a nation divided with Obama. We will not have audacity of hope but rather the audacity of mistakes and economic woes. We, the people, are now divided: a strong message to super delegates!

Tim in Arkansas   April 3rd, 2008 5:24 pm ET

Was tired of the Clintons when they were in Arkansas.

Even more tired of them while Bill was in the Whitehouse.

Completely fed-up with Hillary and her supportors crying over her not winning.

Will be very happy to see the end of the Clintons and their politics.

Tjaye   April 3rd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Obama should just let her have Michigan and Florida JUST to show that she STILL can't win even WITH them. Then lets see what she comes up with as her new excuse.

Nasty Nasty   April 3rd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

And I'm not talking about the candidates, I'm talking about the supporters.

sally, new york   April 3rd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

this is all fine, but what about the superdelegates that have pledged their support to a particular candidate that their constituency voted against??????????????? there's so much hipocracy!!!

Erick   April 3rd, 2008 5:22 pm ET

Re: Kenneth Woodard

Name three reasons why you are for Obama without using the words change or Washington Outsider. Obama was such a great state senator from 96-2000 that he lost re-election to Bill Rush in 2000. If Obama is the uniter, problem solving- outsider…Why the defeat?

Obama or Mccain? This six-time democratic presidential nominee voter has only one choice…vote straight Republican ticket.

kw   April 3rd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

we'll never fairly know the popular vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dem party is ridiculous!

Jesse Ventura 08

April S. Reyna   April 3rd, 2008 5:21 pm ET

I really don't understand how this election is fair or how some say it's the people who choose who is elected. If Florida and Michigan voters we not cheated out of their votes by politicians, then Hillary Clinton would be in the lead and probably win this election.

Cesar   April 3rd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

To Obama advisers:
There will be plenty of "very experienced" leaders at the situation room in the White house. What Obama will bring to the table is: good judgement, credibility and honesty.

Jim (TX)   April 3rd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

"I'm a very aggressive supporter of Senator Clinton, but I think you need at least a popular vote."

Ya THINK!

How quaint…letting the people decide their nominee! that's very gracious of you, Gov!

Azar   April 3rd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

It is the delegates that count and not popular votes. Also, how are they going to count the popular votes in caucus states mostly won by Senator Obama?

Nasty Nasty   April 3rd, 2008 5:20 pm ET

I'm afraid there is nothing that the republicans can do that will be any nastier than what has been done by the democrats in this primary.

It makes me ashamed to be a democrat honestly……….

VOTER FOR TRUTH AND DIGNITY IN AMERICA   April 3rd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Hillary is losing big. Murtha and Corzine chose the wrong candidate.
No, we won't go back to the same old government. We deserve someone who tells the truth to Americans..Can you sit and watch
Hillary lie to us for 8 long years? Telling the truth to Americans is
VITAL to our Country. What if another Country chose a liar.! We would
not respect them. American need to gain it values and "scruples" back. and we will never be able to do that with Billary. Obama is
our last chance for Honest in this world. Americans crave honesty
NOW!!!! Wonder Why????????????????????????????????????

Retired Professional White Woman for Obama from Day 1.l

dee, tx   April 3rd, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Quit trying to change the election rules. The person that has the most pledge delegates wins. Even if he wins by1 he has the most Pledge delegates.

tell the truth   April 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

That is her only shot and that might not be enough. She still will be losing the pleged delegates count. But rember vote for Hilliary or Obama not McCain

Stephy, Groton Connecticut   April 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

I am as feminist as you can get, yet I will not cast a vote for Hillary Clinton. To me it is an issue of integrity. I DON'T trust her, feminist or not, I don't want her to be my president! Yes I want to see a woman in the White House: a woman with honesty, integrity, capability, and a nice clothes and shoes at leat. Hillary Clinton, with all my admiration and respect, do not fit any of my categories.

Sharon Minnesota   April 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

I can only say ……….. If Obama is president and his supporters have anything to do with our government, we can all say goodby to civility. What in the world is eating up the souls of his supporters? Why is there such venom among them?

Both of the Clintons have brought most of the peace and prosperity that we have had in the last 20 years. And the malcontents of this country repay them with slander and hatred. I am getting the impression that they are sounding a lot like some of the Rev. Wright's tapes.

What are the Obamaites going to do when Hillary wins the nomination?

I am praying that she will win by having the majority of the popular vote which will include the votes of Floridians and Michiganites. Then we will have a decent and mature woman to bring us back to civility.

Nina Bathy   April 3rd, 2008 5:18 pm ET

The Inevitable nominee is suddenly not so Inevitable! It's about time Dems start pulling together behind the real Rocky (Obama the underdog). SuperDs are starting to get it: Richardson, Carter, and even Pelosi all on the Obama train. The only thing that's inevitable for Hillary is defeat. Don't cry, take it like the tough and mature woman that you are and go home! 2016 is not that far away. Look at McCain, still doing it. 70 is the new 60!

Bill, Covington   April 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

OOPS!! Neglectedto mention, I vote Republican, EVERY TIME>

eddie n. powellnye   April 3rd, 2008 5:17 pm ET

I hope that the Clintons realized that our country is tired of them. This
country young voters are our children and they are trying to tell us again, like the young of the Viet-Nam era, we need change. It is time for the Clintons and the McCains to be carried into the sunset. I pray to the Lord that for once for a politican to win named Obama.

Anonymous   April 3rd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS!!!

Herman LA, CA   April 3rd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

The only way that she can gain the popular vote is that if we are hit with a meteorite.

Obama 08!!!

Debra Austin, Texas   April 3rd, 2008 5:16 pm ET

These two 'wimps' are so afraid of the Clintons that they have to put out in the public sphere, the rationale for her to argue a winning candidacy which they know she can't achieve. They were too chicken to tell her they couldn't commit to her. And it's shameful since Murtha just threw his support to her but is already trying to 'back out'. They know the writing's on the wall and they hate to be on the losing side. I guess they're more afraid of the red face and wagging finger of Bill and the screeching voice of Hillary. What fools.

Unite the Democratic party   April 3rd, 2008 5:15 pm ET

Dems really have to end this nomination fight and focus on Mcain. He is going around the country introducing himself to the american ppl. We are losing an opportunity to let everyone know that mcain is running on President Bush's platform.

BMR   April 3rd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Factual problem with the post: Jon Corzine is the Governor of New Jersey, not a Senator.

This isn't that surprising. Clinton superdelegates are starting to echo this refrain. Maria Cantwell was just the first to do it publicly. Emmanuel Cleaver even predicts Clinton won't win the primary.

Notice these superdelegates (Cantwell, Cleaver, Murtha, Corzine) are all elected officials. They have to think not only about their Presidential candidate of choice (Clinton, in all cases), they also have to think about down-ticket effects - especially on them.

Murtha's a good example - even though he's an 18-term Congressman, he could use a boost this year because he's facing a decorated soldier and successful businessman who moved to Murtha's district just to oppose him.

ATL - Atlanta   April 3rd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Hey Shirley, you know what a disgrace is? That's what will happen to this country under the losership of Barack. That's a DISGRACE! After 46 years of voting Democratic I will vote Republican., even if it means voting for McCain. Tens of Thousands of Americans will do the same!

Walt, Belton,TX   April 3rd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

With Corzine and Murtha stompin the sidelines, picking up the popular vote should be a snap. Hell, Ted Kennedy reeks more than they do and he outweighs the two of them combined, politically and physically. Maybe she can pick up New York's present and previous governor just in time for the last rites or a good cartoon………………

Luke Brown, Charleston SC   April 3rd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Thank you, Corzine and Murtha. At last some sanity.

The Clintons have both done great things for the Democratic party. She would be an excellent President. However, she doesn't have the delegate votes to win the nomination.

Barack is going to be the nominee. She needs to come to terms with this fact and gracefully get out of the race so the party can move on.

james, newport, KY   April 3rd, 2008 5:13 pm ET

how many more angles can the democratic establishment take on this election?
Get over it, Shrillary, you lost!

Quit dividing the party along racial lines and make way for the new generation of Democrat politics–hopefully better than the last.

Isaac   April 3rd, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Funny thing is, Clintonites:

if the Florida and Michigan votes were counted, it would only help OBAMA to win the nomination, not Hillary!

Trudge   April 3rd, 2008 5:13 pm ET

Unlike the Democratic Primaries, delegates are not awarded proportionally in the November election. It is winner take all! This makes the popular vote almost irrelevant; ask Al Gore. The name of our country is still the United States and NOT the United People or the United Delegates. The states elect the president at the advice of their citizens. The reason for this, of course, is to prevent individual state or regional interests from trumping the interests of the nation as a whole. I.e. New York vs. say, Montana.

Hillary supporter who understands the rules of the game   April 3rd, 2008 5:12 pm ET

April 3rd, 2008 3:13 pm ET

If Clinton wins Pennsylvania by 11% she would get an 89-69 split in the delegates and that would give Clinton 1162 and Obama 1158 delegates "elected" by the public vote in PRIMARY elections.

If people don't like superdelegates, they ought to hate caucus delegates because as we saw in Texas to don't represent the will of the voters in the election. In Texas those caucus delegate voted against how the public voted and stole that election.

Chuck, did you pull those numbers out of thin air.. you need to lay off the gin. Obama has a 150 pledged delegate lead. Her netting 20 delegates in PA won't do a darn thing.

Texas Sue   April 3rd, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Hillary reminds me of a child that needs some attention. Her stories of Bosnia and others is laughable. Theres one thing she does have , a long time in politics . That also has a downside, she will say anything to get elected but doing it has been completely another story.

Terri   April 3rd, 2008 5:11 pm ET

Please go away Hillary, we are sick of you and all your lies. YOU LOST! Any Hillary supporters not willing to vote for Obama when he wins are not really democrats anyway.

toriganthe   April 3rd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Hillary is going to run as an independent, so as not to disenfranchise all those voters.

Either that or she will run long enough to hurt the chances of Obama winning the general election so that she can come back in 2012.

Believe it!

Obama supporters want Hillary to step down cause she is hurting the democrats. Is that so hard to see?

Arthur-Texas   April 3rd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

Hillary will win the poular vote and be our nominee.
Superdelegates and surrogate should shut up about the race until all the primaries are over.
Whatever the say will be misinterpeted by an alreay bias media and may affect some voters thinking..

justobserve   April 3rd, 2008 5:10 pm ET

The Clintons said even pledged delegates can still change their mind and vote HER against people's votes in primaries/caucuses. So what is the fuss if some superdelegates having promised them their votes but change now based on their conscience? Anyway, can anyone still believe the Clintons now? They can talk as long as they like,…

Bill, Covington   April 3rd, 2008 5:09 pm ET

Anyone taking any bets on when these two clowns will claim they are switching to the Obama camp, where they have secretly been since day one. Someone suggested yesterday that Obama is both black and white, and there is that movement that thinks this Republic will destruct if we do not elect a black&white president.
Have a nice day!

Obama welcomes Hillary supporters   April 3rd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

Although you Billary supporters have been acting really really dumb lately, we will take you in with open arms.

Democrats unite!

Felly   April 3rd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

I have always believed that Obama's campaign is an inspiring movement which the Clintons cannot stop. No more Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton dynasty. America wake up!

Talimee   April 3rd, 2008 5:08 pm ET

She can still win the popular vote and for the sake of the party Michigan and Florida should be counted in that vote.

Arthur-Texas   April 3rd, 2008 5:07 pm ET

Hillary will win the poular vote and be our nominee.
Superdelegates and surrogate shoild shut up about the race until all the primaries are over.
Whatever the say will be misinterpeted by an alreay bias media and may affect some voters thinking..

Tammy   April 3rd, 2008 5:07 pm ET

The clinton camp, along with HilBill will always want to change the rules or the game plan to win. Hillary is a flip flopper–she will put on the act to get I mean buy, cheat, bully votes and voters anyway she can. She will play the race and gender card till she gets her way. I can hear her behind closed doors screaming that this is HER election and she deserves to win. Must suck that she thought she was the democratic favorite and the competion was alot tougher than thought. If she gets elected we will all lose. Oh, yea and look at the pork barrel monies she was earmarked with.

Marc in DeKalb, IL   April 3rd, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Before some Clintonian tells the FL/MI myth, too… even with FL/MI as is … she's losing in the popular vote by 100,000 votes… and that's without counting the "Uncommitted" votes in Michigan as Obama votes.

… she's not winning *ANYTHING* right now except "pledged superdelegates", and most of those had pledged LOOOONG before any outcome was known… (and she hasn't been picking up any new ones, either)….

(P.S., the PPP poll showed Obama up 2% over Clinton in PA, and the Insider Advantage showed Clinton up 3% in PA… so it looks like PA is going to eek out as a tie unless Clinton decides to get caught in any more lies… i.e. … her last shot at taking the popular vote is *not* happening.

Yes, DM again Arlington, TX   April 3rd, 2008 5:06 pm ET

Hillary Clinton is running the same old tired ads. She is not being honest nor truthful with anyone. She always trying to discourage voters to support Sen. Barack Obama. I think she needs to show s her tax return and pursue her legal case in California.

Hal   April 3rd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

I dont;t understand it but, everybody can't get enough of Hillary bashing! I don't know why, but the Democrats are definitely mean spirited people!!

bigben   April 3rd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Clinton supporters by a fair % will go McCain. Don't crown him prez yet

Sean, Detroit MI   April 3rd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

As a Michigan voter I do not feel that the vote here was valid. For weeks before the vote took place we were constantly told that even if we voted, our votes would not matter as the state had broken party rules and had been stripped of it's delegates. So with that in mind, I, and numerous other people in Michigan, chose not to vote at all. it was widely covered that the voting places were virtual ghost towns. no lines. no voter turn out. nothing. it was patheticcally empty all across the state. had I thought my vote wouldve counted, I and many others here, wouldve cast our votes for Edwards or Obama.

Paul d   April 3rd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

Recently, on several occasions, Hillary Clinton has used the film character of Rocky as a way or saying that she will not quit the primary race and that like Rocky she will win no matter what opposes her. I think someone should remind Hillary that in the first Rocky film…he lost!

david   April 3rd, 2008 5:05 pm ET

For all the people slamming Fl and Mi, what if you voted and it didn't count? It's not the citizens fault their votes didn't count, it was the legislatures. The citizens of these two states have a Constitutional right for their votes to be counted, regardless of who they are supporting. Some of you backers, whethter you are pro-Obama or pro-Clinton would be upset if your vote didn't count. So, please layoff these states….its not fair and we ALL know it. It does seem like that Dean is going to be able to get the delegates counted, in this case, they will go to Clinton.

Quinn   April 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Chuck,

Your numbers are WAAAAY OFF. If Hillary netted 20 delegates over Obama in Pennsylvania she would still be behind by 142 pledged delegates…not 4.

Plain and simple. Hillary cannot win unless she manages the revise the rules in the middle of the game. If she does that, she is no longer a candidate, but a crook.

jp/michigan   April 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

The media's pro-Obama tilt, its indifference to his resistance to invaliding these states Michigan and Florida, in the 'actual' nomination process is its most disturbing favor,' especially since this brand of ' conventional politics', as Obama would put it , flies in the face of his contention that, ' the people' should pick the nominee. This is what he tells voters, yet his supporters have done every thing not to allow a re-vote in these states.

Hillary Supporter   April 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

If Michigan and Florida had been counted from the get go, we would have had a winner by now; oh, wait, do you think the Obama supporters would be crying fowl, of course. Instead, they want to steal away the election just like the Republicans did when Gore lost.

Better yet, had the tables been turned on Obama and it was he in Hillary's position, they would not have stood for this problem the DNC has created? I don't think so.

That Jay Guy from up Canada   April 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

So if Richardson was a Judas what does this make Corzine and Murtha…

HIllary supporter who understands the rules of the game   April 3rd, 2008 5:04 pm ET

Even if she wins the popular vote, who can deny Obama the nomination if he wins twice as many states as well as more delegates than clinton. Obama has clearly earned the nomination.

For Hillary to win, she needs superdelegates to overturn the delegate lead by obama. I'm kind of like the Cleaver who guy said he is rooting for clinton but has come to accept that Obama will get the nomination

i think other Hillary voters should stop saying they will vote for mcain instead of obama. You guys are so ignorant, your vote shouldnt' count. There are basically no policy differences between obama and clinton. Both will further the democrat agenda and if you are a hillary supporter who doesn't understand….you are pathetic

True Independent, MD   April 3rd, 2008 5:03 pm ET

Stop the hating, both supporters. You Dems had better start uniting.

CHERYL   April 3rd, 2008 5:02 pm ET

HILLARY CAN GET THE POPULAR VOTE IF OBAMA WOULD LET THEM BE COUNTED!!!!!!!!

COME ON CNN YOU NEVER PRINT MY POSTS!!!!!

GO HILLARY!!!!

bob toano   April 3rd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

I can hear a faint rumbling from the fat lady . It sounds like she is getting ready to sing.

Rob - Canada   April 3rd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

We are talking about Hill and Bill……..I am betting they have a little more spin left in them yet.Should be fun to see what angle they come up with next.Get ready for the mud to fly right before the Pennsylvania vote.Hey Hillary ,see if you can come up with something new this time.The Reverend Wright thing just don't fly anymore.By the way,how are the tax returns coming.We will see them soon ,right.These two mega-ego's just don't get it nor will they ever.

Tre   April 3rd, 2008 5:01 pm ET

With Obama surging in Pennsylvania, it's about that time for Team Clinton to start spinning Hillary as the underdog. I would love to support America's first woman President, but I insist that it shouldn't be a woman as disgraceful as Hillary Clinton. There are so many other women, other than Hillary, with distinguished service who would bring much more dignity to integrity to the table than either Clinton.

CHERYL   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

OBAMA STRUTS AROUND LIKE HE HAS IT IN THE BAG!!!!!!

IN REALITY HE HAS A BAG OF DOO DOO!!!!!!!

LETS PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE ON APRIL 22!

VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!

Kenneth   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

I am a strong supporter of Senator Clinton and do agree that she must make a better stand in the coming primaries. Moreover, I also think that the media has unfairly villified she and (former) President Bill Clinton. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton essentially have the same ideologies; however, she has the most amount of experience between the two of them. Given that fact I think that it should be a foregone conclusion that she prevail as the nominee of the Democratic party in July.

Last of all, Jon Corzine is Governor of New Jersey….he is not a "senator".

I'm just sayin....   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

Math is hard! Just ask Barbie!

Popular vote (gone to Obama). Pledged delegates (gone to Obama). Superdelegates (slip slidin' away toward Obama).

Shopping, now that's easy! New hat, new shoes, new attitude!

Sadly, if only it were true. Hillary needs a new attitude 'cause the old one ain't workin'.

Two snaps, Barack!

Ginky   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

I hear too many people here voting on likeability, We are voting for the President of the US. I for one favor someone with more years experience. The same mistake the Country made with Bush is about to be repeated unless these Obamanation voters wake up and see the handwritung on the wall.

frank wynne   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

I am not necessarily a clinton fan, but after what happened in the 2000 election, I think it is absolutely outrageous that people continue to suggest that she drop out of the race before the primaries are over. After all, aren't we(democrats) supposed to be for counting ALL of the votes? To suggest that she drop out means you are disenfranchising millions of her supporters in the remaining primaries(I know, because as a resident of florida our votes may not count either). And as far as the florida vote goes, it should be divided according to the votes won by either candidate in florida with the winner getting the greater number of delegates. Michigan should not count since Obama's name was not on the ballot.

Tim   April 3rd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

What an awful talking point. Many of the caucus states don't even report the popular vote, so how are they supposed to be taken into consideration? Oh yes, I forgot, they don't count (except for Nevada).

Ceci   April 3rd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

I hope the superdelegates have better sense than to jump ship. Stand up for what you believe and what is right! You cannot be double minded and be a leader.
Go Clintons!!!!

CHERYL   April 3rd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

OBAMA IS BUSY SPENDING OPRAH'S MONEY TO SMEAR HILLARY!!!!!!

IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE GAVE A LITTLE TO THE POOR!!!!!!!

WHO DO YOU WANT?

SOMEONE ON YOUR LEVEL OR AN ELITIST THAT LOOKS DOWN HIS NOSE AT YOU!!!!!!

I WANT THE ONE I CAN TRUST!

SENATOR CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!

NObama   April 3rd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Here's the Three reason's to support Hilary

1. She doesn't have Oprah's support.
2. She has no support form the "business as usual/Old White Boys Club" Washington Crowd like her opponent.
3. She doesn't belong to a Racial Seperatist Church.

Think - FL   April 3rd, 2008 4:58 pm ET

Hillary and Bill are fighting for their lives because they probably literally are. They might go the way of Vince Foster. Bill's silly foundation has taken in hundreds of millions of dollars from around the world with the guarantee that Hillary would get elected. That has been their ultimate goal for the last 30+ years when they got married. If she was able to make it into the White House it would elevate them to superstar status around the world and she could start handing out the millions (billions?!) due back to their supporters.

When she gets beat there are going to be some very unhappy people. I honestly can't believe anyone supports these fools. I'd love to see a sampling of intelligence levels because rarely do I see an intelligent argument from anyone supporting her. Generally the people making intelligent arguments in favor of her stand to gain something from her being elected… and even then those arguments are usually based on deceptions, twists or flat-out lies.

Colie Brice   April 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

** NEWS FLASH **

Obama is winning Hillary. Hang it up. The only thing "Rocky" about you is your marriage and your campaign..

LISSA-ST.LOUIS,MO.   April 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

WHEN IS HILLARY GOING TO STOP LYING,WHEN IS SHE GOING TO ACCEPT DEFEAT YOU HAVE HER SUPERDELEGATES TURNING ON HER.PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF THE PARTY GET OUT NOW.

Hillary Supporter   April 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

I am a Hillary supporter, but it's pretty obvious sen.Obama will win the nomination based on the math. Anyway, Sen. Obama will get my vote in the general election. I think it's time democrats & independents, and some republicans (who favor democrats) unite and help bring a new generation of leadership to this country. I love Hillary, but I also like Sen. Obama. We are democrats infact. Lets all unite. Obama 2008. Democrats 2008

Dora   April 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

One of you ask for 3 reasons to vote for Hillary.
1, Not Obama
2.Not Obama
3.Not Obama
I will vote Hillary for the reasons you said not to answer but I will not vote for Obama for any reason. Hillary will win ,so please stop your negative mouthing. It does not make Obama any better. And the Republicans and the Independents who have voted for him will not vote for him in Nov. Get real people.

Christina   April 3rd, 2008 4:57 pm ET

LISTEN UP PEOPLE…..

Unless she can BLOW him out in SIZEABLE VICTORIES, it WON'T MATTER. I don't care if she manages to run up some popular vote total. I am FRUSTRATED WITH THIS BULL. That campaign and her supporters keep moving the goal post every single week almost. HERE IS SOMETHING YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR, SHE LOSS, get over it!

If there were to reverse positions, there would be calls from all over AMERICA for him to give him! It's time her people told her to give the hell up.

Kim 4 Hillary 08   April 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

For Kenneth Woodward…here's my 3 now let's see if you can name 3 for Obama and it can't contain - RACE, CHANGE, or PATRIOTISM (Oh yea, you couldn't use that oneanyway could you)

HILLARY
1. She has a plan for all her policy ideas…does Obama? I've never heard it
2. She will actually withdraw the troops unlike Obama who's own foreign policy advisor told reporters that he doesn't really have a plan…he'll have to wait and see what the folks on the ground tell him after he's elected
3. Hillary doesn't tell the American people one thing and then have secret "wink, wink" meetings with foreign coutries, ie. Canada(NAFTA)
4. HILLAY has always been PROUD OF HER COUNTRY!!!

I know you only asked for 3 but I just had to throw that one in there…

thomasr@yahoo.com   April 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Beautiful Chuck. First you argue for the superdelegates voting for whomever they please, but they you turn around and say the caucus in Texas resulted in the delegates stealing the election. This is the problem with the clinton supporters; they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. It is amazing to me that they will repeat the hypocracy and lies that the campaign throws out and then also turn around and acuse everyone else of being blind sheep.

CHERYL   April 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

OBAMA IS A LIAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!!!

HE DOES NOT WEAR OR SUPPORT OUR GREAT FLAG!!!!!!!

HE DOESN'T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

AND HE IS BLOCKING OUR VOTES!!!!!!!!!

UNPATRIOTIC!!!!!!!!

HE DOESN'T DESERVE OUR VOTES!!!!!!!!

MINE GO TO HILLARY!!!!!!!!

Dan (TX)   April 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

Go Hillary!! Stamp your feet and cry like a little girl!
Go Hillary!!

Marc   April 3rd, 2008 4:56 pm ET

She will never win the popular vote and they will change there pledge to Obama.

Brian   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Sounds like they're coming to terms with what we all already know… Hillary's goose is cooked.

Democrats… let's get ready to mobilize behind the best candidate left in the field, and the next president of the United States of America…

BARACK OBAMA '08!!!

Ben   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

hillary clinton supported NAFTA when bill was president and so she is jointly responsible that thousands of good american people lost their jobs like in pennsylvania or ohio!

No Hillary   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

Seems like these guys finally had time to set down and do the math.

JN   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

This isn't rocket science….Count the pledged delegates, popular vote, more states won and ladies and gentlemen the winner is……………………………………………………………………………..Senator Barack Obama!!!! Yahoo!!!!!

How many more Billary supporters will come out now to say she is so over!!! Haven't heard any new super delegates joining her camp…Jump on the Obama train…it's pulling out April 23rd and heading straight for Denver!!!! Choo Choo!!!!

lol   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

hillary can win the popular vote, there is still time for her to do it. She can then argue that she carries the must win big states, and with the popular vote she will get the nomination. Hillary 08!

Isaac   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I am still a big Clinton supporter and I absolutely agree with this statement. This is another scenario where you can't just discount MI & FL however. Those people did in fact vote and the votes for Clinton should count for just that — a vote for Clinton. I do believe that with MI & FL in the mix, she will come out on top of the popular vote. That is if the media actually did their job, which they are not.

I watch these news channels a LOT, and all I hear all day long are people talking about the way She needs to get out, how She is tearing the party apart, how She is hurting the democratic party. I think these things are patently false and are fueling anti-Clinton sentiment among the average voter that has yet to vote. I truly do not think it is fair. In addition, the dragging of the DNC's and everyone else's feet in respect to MI & FL has hurt her campaign tremendously. If those votes, even just added into the popular total, would be reported on as actual votes (which they were), then these conversations would be happening much less if at all.

Additionally, I just don't get why everyone is calling on her now and tearing her to pieces now. If it was so impossible then they wouldn't bother. It is also ridiculous in terms of the time-frame of this primary season, given the fact that she just won OH, TX, RI and is favored to win in PA. Why all the superdelegate additions and calling on her to quit now? What are people scared of? What is Obama and his campaign scared of?

In the media and Obama supporters eyes, Clinton can do nothing right. It is a disgusting double-standard that they are applying to this campaign.

Spare me, in Austin   April 3rd, 2008 4:55 pm ET

What ever Chuck. The Caucus in Texas are votes by the people. The media called the election too soon. To use your rationale I can say if we only count the States that Obama won he wins by a landslide. You can't change the rules and discredit the caucus because HRC is bad at them. …But I guess that is Clinton logic.

CHERYL   April 3rd, 2008 4:54 pm ET

I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT SHE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!

THE ONLY REASON THAT OBAMA IS STILL IN THIS RACE IS BECAUSE HE IS TREATED LIKE THE GOLDEN BOY IN THE PRESS!!!!!!

EVERY RACIAL COMMENT HE OR HIS WIFE MAKE IS COVERED UP WITH GOOD PRESS!!!!!!

EVERY LIE (NAFTA) MORE GOOD PRESS!!!!!!!

REVEREND WRIGHT AND TOM REZKO LAND DEALS?
COVERED WITH GOOD PRESS!!!!!!!

THE WORST IS THE SUPPRESSION OF OUR VOTES IN FL AND MI!!

HILLARY ISN'T DOING THESE THINGS!

I TRUST HER! GO HILLARY WE SUPPORT YOU!!!!!!

Mike   April 3rd, 2008 4:54 pm ET

Hahaha that's hilarious. I can guarantee you this, more than 65% of Obama supporters had either drop out of school or can't even spell "Judiciary." Thank you.

Obama supporters need to snap out of his dream world fantasy. United States will NEVER change under his administration. After we get a few laughs of his inexperience, we'll see the Vice-President step up, whoever that poor sap would be. I can't want to see United States fall in the hands of a "pop star" icon.

It's like would you prefer Chocolate that would in the end cause you teeth decay orrrr you could have vegetables that would help you in many ways.

ken   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

what is it with hillary we are working on the papers for my white house days then their was little imformation tells obama to produce us tax returns but you have to wait for mine and you have to two weeks for my march donation then she gets a3am phone call telling her we are under attack well call me back in 2 weeks

nate   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

She says every vote should be counted every voice heard. Then her campaign suggests going to the superdels if she is BEHIND in the popular vote? How can you possibly trust this woman?

A Voice of Reason   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

"Hillary is in this to the end." That's what we hear over and over and over. What endgame does she accept? If she doesn't end up getting the nomination, do her supporters accept this? Realize, Hillary's not following the rules in MI and FL does not make her a "Campion of Democracy." HRC's making such a claim is tanamount to supression and disenfranchisement. Catch a clue folks.

North Carolina   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

The question isn't whether she will win the popular vote: if all votes are counted, then she likely will do so. The question is, Will she be Perceived as having won the popular vote? If the delegates of Fl and Mi are seated disproportionate to the vote, then she will look as though she has not. This is why DNC's monkeying around with the delegates should not be allowed. This is why the DNC is suddenly desirous of "seating" the delegates. They will seat them, but not fairly apportion them.

nazcalito   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

Kenneth Woodard asked:
"Can you state three reasons why you support Hillary Clinton. The reasons can not contain the following three words: Experience, Solutions or Female."

1. Bill Clinton will be the real president.
2. Bill Clinton will be the real president.
3. Bill Clinton will be the real president.

patrick   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

even pop. vote is misleading, how do you count the pop vote in a caucus vs. a primary? The caucus, by nature, will have less "votes" then a primary. The clinton logic is that not giving each state their due is a disenfranchisement so counting states that had primaries more than caucuses is a similar disenfranchisement.

Golden Chica   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

To Kenneth Woodard's three reasons:

You're a moron; You're a moron and you're a moron.

Maria F   April 3rd, 2008 4:53 pm ET

D.W.; Miami, FL

YOU SAID IT BEST!!!

. . . .
[b]2) Rules are useless and Obama should be penalized for following them.[/b]

And why doesn't the media every ask her

[b]"Then Hillary, why did you sign the DNC's agreement if you felt it would disenfranchise voters?[/b]

Rosie   April 3rd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Winning the popular vote would not be enough for Clinton since, using racial dog whistle, she is appealing to republicans who, at the end of the day, will vote for McCain. Obama is attracting people from all venues of life and ideologies because he is a new kind of politician, not because he is frigthening the public with 3 am events. This election is not only about winning, but about changing manners and dialoguing with regular citizens, most of them in need of new approaches to public life.

He won red states only   April 3rd, 2008 4:52 pm ET

Obama has won the red states only so far. He lost all big blue states. Of course, Dem can just give this election to the Rep. again.

Camp Clinton   April 3rd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Summer's over… Time to go home campers…

Viva Presidente Obama! Viva America! Si se puede!

J. McKinney   April 3rd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Hillary all the way. YEA!!!

Lisa from GA   April 3rd, 2008 4:51 pm ET

Out of all the tricks and sneakiness of the Clintons, i admire her persistance even if it is for a selfish reason. I watch CNN everyday and I used to think.. what great momentum our two democratic nominees have, but HILLARY!!!!! started playing dirty and that is why she is in the mess she is in now. No one believes in Hilalry any more and that her downfall. At least it was with me!

Lisa - NY   April 3rd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Obama is winning because a bunch of white people without pride are voting for him. Wait till more of his racist past comes out and see how you are going to feel.

I can see it now… Obama calling Pastor Wright for advise… afterall he is his mentor and that was his exact word "mentor".

Also, how happy the black panters are Louis Farrakan are going to feel just as happy as they did on 911. Maybe a lot of American have forgotten how sad that day was, but I haven't.

No for Obama!!!

Let FL and MI count   April 3rd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Let FL and MI count. Or tell them to skip the GE at all once.

Phong Nguyen   April 3rd, 2008 4:50 pm ET

Hillary is a gutsy fighter! This is a first contest when people discount experience because they are charmed by S. Obama's talk of change! I want to see him change his church first!

Steven, FL   April 3rd, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Hillary will continue to fight for the nomination to the bitter end. There is no doubt. It disgusts me that Floridian voters were told their vote won't count yet Clinton's name was the only one on the ballot.

The laughable part of that is that she still could not capture 60% of democrats votes even when there was no-one else to vote for!!

What would be more disgusting is if the people of America vote for Obama and Hillary gets nominated do to the superdelegate vote. Can you imagine what would happen? I could see the LA riots all over again…Nationwide….

Teresa   April 3rd, 2008 4:49 pm ET

Bill don't take this so hard…..but you got to chill out and get out before you and Hill get booted out .

Jonathan   April 3rd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Obama supporters need to get real. He will NOT beat McCain. If you think anything Hillary has done has been negative, then Obama is in no way ready for the Big Bad Republican Attack Machine, he's too much of a wimp. And to be honest with you, I don't trust someone who isn't a bit negative…negatives are just as important as positives. What are you hiding Mr. Obama that the Republicans will surely find?! I swore I'd vote for McCain if Obama won the nomination but have since recanted because, and ONLY because, I don't want someone like McCain nominating 2 or more Supreme Court Justices. Hope, dream, "can" all you want, if Obama runs against McCain then all you Obama backers have only yourselves to blame.

Vi Rothermel, Shannon, IL   April 3rd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

What's wrong with using the popular vote? It shows exactly who the people want for their president. We really need to change our voting rules back to the American way.

Gobama from IB   April 3rd, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Would somebody - anybody- please tie the bell on Hillary?!?

Michael Guinn- Ventura, CA   April 3rd, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Chuck: Please go to Remedial Math ASAP!

demo craxy   April 3rd, 2008 4:46 pm ET

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

finally people are standing agains the Clinton Machine, just be forwarned, she will attack each of you back and call you names and say things like they have been doing with Richardson and everyone else, HOWEVER, people are FINALLY standing up against the fear tactics, the kitching sink campaign, the old politics as usual and overall against the neverending clinton machine…………

Obama 08
or
McCain 08

anyone but the old billarys

Alonzo Demetrius   April 3rd, 2008 4:46 pm ET

For Corzine and Murtha: You and your crowd,which includes Hillary, are going to lose this election because you are so "hyper-party". If you had shown yourselves to support the best for our country rather than what you want for your party, Hillary could have likely won. Instead, even democrats are choosing a man they don't even know in the belief that he brings 'hope' — they have no idea. I don't believe you were sent to the Senate to try to ruin republicans but to serve the best interests of the US. Your party-line spinning has become sickening.

Now, don't you wish you were better able to reach across the aisle and get bi-partisan agreements which could improve our country? Hope you have learned something or maybe retire.<