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That is about the most intelligent remark I have heard from the Clinton camp.

Release me from this state of unrest, by melting the ice that grow in my chest. These things I live to see, have poisoned my eyes and made me blind. I am stuck under the clouds, like a rock under the sea. The rain pours from my eyes, like tears from the sky. Sorrow flow like a river that is flooding my soul. I hear voices that tell me not to despair: that all I need is a breath a fresh air. As I look up from the bottom and search for the light. A glimmer of hope seems to brighten the sky. Like a voice from the heavens screaming for chang. Saying we can do it, if we all work together. My heart seems to warm, the ice starts to melt. the clouds seem to part, and the river to dry. A hand reaches out to pull me out of the mud. I see millions of people just like me; working together to pluck the rock from under the sea. The things we can do whe we all work as one.
VOTE FOR OBAMA, AND WE ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF THE LIGHT!

Some of the Obama supporters are as usual, miscontruing the comments of Governor Jon Cozine (D) NJ,and Rep. Jack Murtha (D)PA.Simply put,what the two Democrats are highliting-is the stratergy they are working on to push Hillary to the finish line at the GE.It is Hillary all the way.

You can't just count Florida and especially Michigan without having complete re-votes. Obama wasn't even on the ballot in MI, and who knows how being told their votes weren't going to count affected turnout in both states.

You can't guarantee that Clinton would win under different conditions, or that her margin of victory would be enough to overtake Obama.

Unity, you're forgetting the remaining States that haven't voted as yet. DUH!

Nikki, he souldn't have been on any of the ballots! DUH!

If Rush would have called Hillary the things Randi Rhodes said, you can bet it would have made the Political Ticker.

first, in order to be transparent, am a mccain supporter....
but even if the delegates from MIch and FL are not seated, HRC can very well argue that she has accumulated VOTES from those states,
in fact a much greater # of total votes in FL and MIch than obama...
so in fact, the DNC can say that the delegates from those 2 states should not count, but in terms of the total # of votes achieved,
the total # of votes from the 2 disputed states are a strong bone of contention..... especially since Obama is in really no position to be claiming as HIS the uncommitted voters.... these could as easily be attributed to Richardson, or Edwards or Kucinich or Gravel or the other dems in the race at the time, but for Obama to claim the entire lot of uncommitted VOTES is illogical, unfair and theft....
MCCAIN/CONDI 2008!

GET THE MESSAGE YOU OBOMA ARE A JOKE AND LIER !!!! WE WILL FELL APART IN A HEART BEAT IF YOU WERE IN CHAGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And the music is getting louder. It will be so great to see the monopoly of familes will finally BE OVER-BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON NO MORE.

The last time I checked this was America and should not be run by 2 families.

I am constently amazed that the Clinton people keep talking in terms of "All she has to do is [fill in here] and she can still win the nomination." By saying she needs to win the popular vote is as good as an admission of defeat. There is only one thing driving the Clinton campaign now - ego.

Why doesn't Rev. Wright answer questions. Where is he looks to me like he is hiding.

Can one Hillary supporter talk about her character and integrity? Can you say anything good about her without putting another candidate down? Just one. And if you sound like you're 13 years old, I'll ignore the comment.

Hillary will win! Obama will lose! Hillary 08

Thank you Maxine! If this farce had Obama as the headliner he would have been drummed out of the DNP after 3 straight losses let alone 11. Hahaha

If HE had pulled all the crap he's put up with since Feb. 5th not to mention campainging against and ENTIRE family of political pirahnas who claim "this is the fun part", would we even be having these conversations? No. MI/FL would be a moot point, as would all the other distractions ala the kitchen sink.

This is why I love Barack's campaign and his continuing to rise above the sewer he's trying to help free the entire country from and dolng a darn good job of it too on every level.

Wow. Finally someone in her camps speaks the truth, Lord knows she hasn’t. The bottom line is that Hillary Clinton is going to have to blow Barack clean out of the water in the next few contests. That won't happen. But she’ll try her best to sully him up (she’s already started with that plant of an ignoramus who was hounding Obama for a picture earlier. He was obviously trying to make the point that Obama would pose for photo opts but wouldn’t pose with the average Joe. Well I suppose not when the average Joe is ignoring Obama’s security and insisting on taking a picture when he’s clearly been told no.) I fully expect the cr*p to hit the fan and I fully expect the American people will respond by giving even more to Obama’s campaign and by voting for him in the primaries. It’s over Hillary. And by the way, I saw that your campaign got $20million in March, PAY YOUR BILLS!!!

You Clinton supporters are completely out of your minds. You live in a fantasy and you are supporting a lying manipulative fraud, just like the one we currently have in the White House. If you can't see the writing on the wall now then nothing can help you. Denial is such a powerful thing.

it should be "beat" not "best"
(CNN) — Two prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton suggested Thursday the New York senator needs to best rival Barack Obama in the total popular vote to have any chance at winning her party's presidential nomination.

I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

A true Democrat
& Obama supporter

Vote: OBAMA 2008

Without the super-biased caucuses, Mr. Obama would have dropped the race even before John Edwards. Obama, could you please come up and explain how your people cheated during the Texas caucuses by locking Clinton supporters out of the caucus sites? I'd vote for McCain if you get the nomination, he maintains his descency during the campaign at least.

The 700,000 lead commonly referenced in the media is leading as states like IA, NV, ME, WA have not been included with finalized totals yet so the popular vote hole is current bigger and around 827,000 according to RealClearPolitics.

She’s simply too far behind in pledged delegates to catch Obama there. She’s has to win all the remaining states by much bigger margins than she’s been able to do in any of the forty or so previous contests aside from Arkansas.

Her only realistic chance to keep her hopes alive for the popular vote is a good knee capping before PA (like she did in Ohio & Texas). That’s what I expect she’ll try. Right now with Obama so close in PA, that may have to come sooner rather than later.

It is Hillary's MO so we'll see some fireworks in the next couple of weeks.

Can you name three reasons why you would vote for obama?
It can't include He speaks good, Looks good in a suit (not), Lies Lies Lies. Anything else does not apply to him!!!

Chuck;

Your calculator needs new batteries. obama is ahead of Hillary by 130 pledged delegates. If you give Hillary 89 and Obama 69 delegates from PA, he is still ahead. How come you come with Hillary getting ahaead?

Let us unite around Barack Obama!

I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

A true Democrat
& Obama supporter

Vote: OBAMA 2008

How can she win the popular vote, when she's not popular. Nobody in their right mind likes her.

So, basically, are these superdelegates starting to acknowledge that they may not have Hillary as the winner of this primary? Seems this is the first step away from the kitchen sink and towards Party unity.

Setting the stage for voter fraud, if she does mnot win the popular vote. Obama 08'

To Kenneth Woodard: Can you state ANY reasons why Obama deserves the nomination? (pretty words can't be one of them)

Three reasons I support Hillary Clinton.
1. Her Health care plan is better than Obamas
2. She has a plan to fund innovation into new forms of energy.
3. Even if she doesn't always make right decisions the first time like Obama claims he would, she works to fix the bugs in it. No ones perfect- everyone makes mistakes- even Obama. She is a fighter and stands up for what she believes is the right thing to do.
4. She will end this war
5. She will put people back to work and fix NAFTA.
Shall I go on?

holdn second americans ppls whats going on ? my question

why hilarrys keep said obana cannot win in general election ?

why hilarry cannot win rigth now ? in this primary ? i means ?

we r dumb anymore this is 2008 ! nomore royaly familys in our house bush clinton bush clinton for 28 years no this years obama -macain 08

the reason that Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot is because he excercised poor judgement. If should have known that Michigan and Florida are important factors in the democrats winning the election in November and they are not going to discount their votes so he should have had the foresight to put his name on ballot in the event the race was close.

So the way that you are treating Hilary and her supporters (because we are dumb) we are just going to vote Obama in November..everything all sweet and neat.

In the beginning I did not care who won the Democratic, anyone would be better than a Republician. I still feel that way but I don't like how Hilary is being treated by Obama and Obama supporters. I may just stay home in November.

Obama can't win this. So far a biased media has been able hide most of his sins. But I guarantee you that the Republicans are going to fry this guy. And, rightly they should. You can't put a "spin" artist in the White House. Infatuation is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't solve problems the likes of what we are facing. The one good thing is that if this guy somehow manages to get into office, it will be so bad that people hopefully will never be this stupid again.

Very interesting. At least these men are honest. Wonder what the Clinton's will do about the one who said he may vote for Obama instead?

I am dismayed that there is still talk about IF FL and MI are counted. Although they may all find a way to seat their delegates at the convention, the original primaries canNOT be counted. There was no campaigning and Obama wasn't even on one of the tickets. Dream on.

Hummm, just wondering if Hill will endorse Obama if he become the nominee!

CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG!

I am sure those two are as corrupt as the Clintons. There is no other excuse for backing criminals.

I just saw how much money that Obama & Clinton has made in March. Has this become a race to see how much money that a candidate can spend during their campaign. I was wonderng Just how much that both of these candidates have spent as to date. I will vote for the one who has spent the least amount of money. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a campaign is ridiculous when there are so many peolpe that could use this. Is this what this country has come to, who can and spend the most during their Presidential campaign. Its no wonder that other countries see us as a self centered country. God Help Us.

Shirley, Sillicon Valley, CA:

Why is Hillary a disgrace? It enrages all of you is that you cannot get her out of the picture, What are you really afraid of? If you have so much confidence that your candidate will win–then what are you worried about? You all are nothing but bullies. Your verbal behavior is very hostile. Read your comments. Leave her alone. You should be focusing on Hope and Unity–isn't that what you and your candidate talk about. What about his damage control speech? Talk about double standards. HC has every right to stay in and work for the job she wants. But all this talk is typical of Obama supporters the politicians and non-politicians and the pundits. Bullies usually are envious and resentful. You all fit the definition well!

I'll ask again–what are you all really afraid of?

Yeah "Obama08" tell her to 'stop being a selfish pig'......lol, that was funny. Seriously Hillary needs to admit that we just have a better option for president and Americans want president Barack Obama. We've been waiting a long time for the man!

Crooks sure do flock together alright with the Clinton Campaign.

This guy Murtha was the guy who was ready to accept a bribe in a setup run by the F.B.I.

He had a good conscience to expect he was being setup and backed off.

Murtha is a corrupt politician. No wonder he is backing Clinton.

Wow! Latest PA poll has OB down two points. Wait! He just took the lead. No wait. It's Tied. No Wait. He just took the lead!.
You would think this is basketball.
Change for the sake of changing. Not worth it.

DEB
I AGREE WITH YOU. ONLY THING BO HAS IS MONEY AND YOU KNOW MONEY IS THE ROOT TO ALL EVILS. HE DOES NOT DESERVE THE VOTES BUT CAN BUY THEM.

She has to win by 10%+ in EVERY remaining state to gain the popular vote lead.

We can plainly see she wont get that in Pennsylvania, and see will lose North Carolina, meaning she will need to win the other remaining states by 80%+ to gain the popular vote lead.

She CAN NOT win now.

Even with Florida and Michigan seated as is... which will not happen anyway.

After she loses the nomination, she'll run as an independant. As absurd as her campaign has been, would anyone put that past her?

there's a great article on realclearpolitics today showing how easily she can win the popular vote – all you nay-sayers should check it out.

Obama supporters,have you read the latest National poll on what voters think of the three presidential contenders? Ok,here is the bombshell- 37% Nationally,say Obama is inexprienced. – 24% rate Hillary untrustworthy – 27% just don't want McCain in the White House because of the Iraqi war.It does not take a rocket scientist to interprate where the voters are coming from!

Let us unite around Barack Obama!

Clinton supporters, I thank you but now it is time to come back home. We will leave the light on for you and the door is always open. Your support for Mrs. Clinton has been un wavering.

Thank you-
A true democrat
and Obama supporter

Kenneth Woodard

1. Rev. Wright!!!!!!!!
2. Rev Wright!!!!!!!!
3. Rev. Wright!!!!!!!

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! You go! I am behind you all the way! Don't let the "good ole boys" try to chase you out of this one! You are the ONE for PRESIDENT! You get my vote, or I don't vote!

The Hillary Dream is like the Black and White Western Movie when I was a kid . When the Cowboys get shot and they Bleed for like 3days walking in the Desert with there canteen out of water. A slow long bleeding death is what America is watching.

i'm getting a little sick of super what evers, this the [united states of america,this the greaest country in all this planet,i as an american i a'm very proud to be one,i if around will never let anyone disgrace her or condiumn her in anyway shape or form,i have never been so ashamed of how the people of american have treated her we cut down her trees we plute her waters,we poison her air,we destory her wild life that was here before we were.it's now time that we pay her back and treat her like the beaitful country that is ,protect her ,build her back to the wonder she is and put her states and cities back to the way they use to be,and praise her because that why everyone wants to be here,but we still need to keep in mind that people in the past and the future will always want to hurt her ,we as her children need to make sure this never happens again,we need to make sure whomever we put in office can and will protect this wonderful [lace we call america home sweet home and i as an american believe that hillary clinton would be the best person for this job. god bless america!

It appears to me that the only people who still beleive that Hillary can win over Senator Obama is Hillary, Bill and Chelsea.

Senator Clinton is quickly becoming a very lonely women; and she must do the honourable thing and concede defeat!

Too bad you Obama supporters can't see the forest for the trees. Clinton may not have a chance to catch up, but she is the better candidate. 3 reasons . Supports America, Her husband supports America and her followers do too. That is why Hillary Democrats see
McCain as their only alternative.

So get ready to lose in November.

In Missouri only St. Louis and Kansas City voted for Obama the rest of the state voted for Hillary. So I wonder how the kool aid drinkers can say he won Missouri.

Why dosn't anyone ask hillary about the PLEDGE SHE SIGNED about not counting the florida and michigan votes. Oh yeah- that only mattered if she was winning. What a loser. by the way, I live in florida and knew my vote wasn't going to count...it will in November though, and its counting for OBAMA!

who cares about the popular vote – americans cant be trusted to decide on their government – its up to those already in government to decide...and the pledged delgates dont matter! do they? I thought that everybody could just do whatever they wanted? Why cant we just listen to whose is yelling the loudest? Isnt that what makes the most sense?

The only thing to due is for the Hillary supporters to stop acting like babies and endorse Obama. Do not let the media turn the party against each other. A unify party we can win.

Why don't we just linch Hillary Clinton since demoralizing is not sufficient. I have never witnessed a more biased campaign, super delegates included. This is an outrage. We will be a nation divided with Obama. We will not have audacity of hope but rather the audacity of mistakes and economic woes. We, the people, are now divided: a strong message to super delegates!

Was tired of the Clintons when they were in Arkansas.

Even more tired of them while Bill was in the Whitehouse.

Completely fed-up with Hillary and her supportors crying over her not winning.

Will be very happy to see the end of the Clintons and their politics.

Obama should just let her have Michigan and Florida JUST to show that she STILL can't win even WITH them. Then lets see what she comes up with as her new excuse.

And I'm not talking about the candidates, I'm talking about the supporters.

this is all fine, but what about the superdelegates that have pledged their support to a particular candidate that their constituency voted against??????????????? there's so much hipocracy!!!

Re: Kenneth Woodard

Name three reasons why you are for Obama without using the words change or Washington Outsider. Obama was such a great state senator from 96-2000 that he lost re-election to Bill Rush in 2000. If Obama is the uniter, problem solving- outsider...Why the defeat?

Obama or Mccain? This six-time democratic presidential nominee voter has only one choice...vote straight Republican ticket.

we'll never fairly know the popular vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dem party is ridiculous!

Jesse Ventura 08

I really don't understand how this election is fair or how some say it's the people who choose who is elected. If Florida and Michigan voters we not cheated out of their votes by politicians, then Hillary Clinton would be in the lead and probably win this election.

To Obama advisers:
There will be plenty of "very experienced" leaders at the situation room in the White house. What Obama will bring to the table is: good judgement, credibility and honesty.

"I'm a very aggressive supporter of Senator Clinton, but I think you need at least a popular vote."

Ya THINK!

How quaint...letting the people decide their nominee! that's very gracious of you, Gov!

It is the delegates that count and not popular votes. Also, how are they going to count the popular votes in caucus states mostly won by Senator Obama?

I'm afraid there is nothing that the republicans can do that will be any nastier than what has been done by the democrats in this primary.

It makes me ashamed to be a democrat honestly..........

Hillary is losing big. Murtha and Corzine chose the wrong candidate.
No, we won't go back to the same old government. We deserve someone who tells the truth to Americans..Can you sit and watch
Hillary lie to us for 8 long years? Telling the truth to Americans is
VITAL to our Country. What if another Country chose a liar.! We would
not respect them. American need to gain it values and "scruples" back. and we will never be able to do that with Billary. Obama is
our last chance for Honest in this world. Americans crave honesty
NOW!!!! Wonder Why????????????????????????????????????

Retired Professional White Woman for Obama from Day 1.l

Quit trying to change the election rules. The person that has the most pledge delegates wins. Even if he wins by1 he has the most Pledge delegates.

That is her only shot and that might not be enough. She still will be losing the pleged delegates count. But rember vote for Hilliary or Obama not McCain

I am as feminist as you can get, yet I will not cast a vote for Hillary Clinton. To me it is an issue of integrity. I DON'T trust her, feminist or not, I don't want her to be my president! Yes I want to see a woman in the White House: a woman with honesty, integrity, capability, and a nice clothes and shoes at leat. Hillary Clinton, with all my admiration and respect, do not fit any of my categories.

I can only say ........... If Obama is president and his supporters have anything to do with our government, we can all say goodby to civility. What in the world is eating up the souls of his supporters? Why is there such venom among them?

Both of the Clintons have brought most of the peace and prosperity that we have had in the last 20 years. And the malcontents of this country repay them with slander and hatred. I am getting the impression that they are sounding a lot like some of the Rev. Wright's tapes.

What are the Obamaites going to do when Hillary wins the nomination?

I am praying that she will win by having the majority of the popular vote which will include the votes of Floridians and Michiganites. Then we will have a decent and mature woman to bring us back to civility.

The Inevitable nominee is suddenly not so Inevitable! It's about time Dems start pulling together behind the real Rocky (Obama the underdog). SuperDs are starting to get it: Richardson, Carter, and even Pelosi all on the Obama train. The only thing that's inevitable for Hillary is defeat. Don't cry, take it like the tough and mature woman that you are and go home! 2016 is not that far away. Look at McCain, still doing it. 70 is the new 60!

I hope that the Clintons realized that our country is tired of them. This
country young voters are our children and they are trying to tell us again, like the young of the Viet-Nam era, we need change. It is time for the Clintons and the McCains to be carried into the sunset. I pray to the Lord that for once for a politican to win named Obama.

OOPS!! Neglectedto mention, I vote Republican, EVERY TIME>

IT IS NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS!!!

The only way that she can gain the popular vote is that if we are hit with a meteorite.

Obama 08!!!

These two 'wimps' are so afraid of the Clintons that they have to put out in the public sphere, the rationale for her to argue a winning candidacy which they know she can't achieve. They were too chicken to tell her they couldn't commit to her. And it's shameful since Murtha just threw his support to her but is already trying to 'back out'. They know the writing's on the wall and they hate to be on the losing side. I guess they're more afraid of the red face and wagging finger of Bill and the screeching voice of Hillary. What fools.

Dems really have to end this nomination fight and focus on Mcain. He is going around the country introducing himself to the american ppl. We are losing an opportunity to let everyone know that mcain is running on President Bush's platform.

Factual problem with the post: Jon Corzine is the Governor of New Jersey, not a Senator.

This isn't that surprising. Clinton superdelegates are starting to echo this refrain. Maria Cantwell was just the first to do it publicly. Emmanuel Cleaver even predicts Clinton won't win the primary.

Notice these superdelegates (Cantwell, Cleaver, Murtha, Corzine) are all elected officials. They have to think not only about their Presidential candidate of choice (Clinton, in all cases), they also have to think about down-ticket effects – especially on them.

Murtha's a good example – even though he's an 18-term Congressman, he could use a boost this year because he's facing a decorated soldier and successful businessman who moved to Murtha's district just to oppose him.

Hey Shirley, you know what a disgrace is? That's what will happen to this country under the losership of Barack. That's a DISGRACE! After 46 years of voting Democratic I will vote Republican., even if it means voting for McCain. Tens of Thousands of Americans will do the same!

With Corzine and Murtha stompin the sidelines, picking up the popular vote should be a snap. Hell, Ted Kennedy reeks more than they do and he outweighs the two of them combined, politically and physically. Maybe she can pick up New York's present and previous governor just in time for the last rites or a good cartoon..................

Thank you, Corzine and Murtha. At last some sanity.

The Clintons have both done great things for the Democratic party. She would be an excellent President. However, she doesn't have the delegate votes to win the nomination.

Barack is going to be the nominee. She needs to come to terms with this fact and gracefully get out of the race so the party can move on.

how many more angles can the democratic establishment take on this election?
Get over it, Shrillary, you lost!

Quit dividing the party along racial lines and make way for the new generation of Democrat politics–hopefully better than the last.

Funny thing is, Clintonites:

if the Florida and Michigan votes were counted, it would only help OBAMA to win the nomination, not Hillary!

Unlike the Democratic Primaries, delegates are not awarded proportionally in the November election. It is winner take all! This makes the popular vote almost irrelevant; ask Al Gore. The name of our country is still the United States and NOT the United People or the United Delegates. The states elect the president at the advice of their citizens. The reason for this, of course, is to prevent individual state or regional interests from trumping the interests of the nation as a whole. I.e. New York vs. say, Montana.

April 3rd, 2008 3:13 pm ET

If Clinton wins Pennsylvania by 11% she would get an 89-69 split in the delegates and that would give Clinton 1162 and Obama 1158 delegates "elected" by the public vote in PRIMARY elections.

If people don't like superdelegates, they ought to hate caucus delegates because as we saw in Texas to don't represent the will of the voters in the election. In Texas those caucus delegate voted against how the public voted and stole that election.

Chuck, did you pull those numbers out of thin air.. you need to lay off the gin. Obama has a 150 pledged delegate lead. Her netting 20 delegates in PA won't do a darn thing.

Hillary reminds me of a child that needs some attention. Her stories of Bosnia and others is laughable. Theres one thing she does have , a long time in politics . That also has a downside, she will say anything to get elected but doing it has been completely another story.

Please go away Hillary, we are sick of you and all your lies. YOU LOST! Any Hillary supporters not willing to vote for Obama when he wins are not really democrats anyway.

Hillary is going to run as an independent, so as not to disenfranchise all those voters.

Either that or she will run long enough to hurt the chances of Obama winning the general election so that she can come back in 2012.

Believe it!

Obama supporters want Hillary to step down cause she is hurting the democrats. Is that so hard to see?

Hillary will win the poular vote and be our nominee.
Superdelegates and surrogate should shut up about the race until all the primaries are over.
Whatever the say will be misinterpeted by an alreay bias media and may affect some voters thinking..

The Clintons said even pledged delegates can still change their mind and vote HER against people's votes in primaries/caucuses. So what is the fuss if some superdelegates having promised them their votes but change now based on their conscience? Anyway, can anyone still believe the Clintons now? They can talk as long as they like,...

Anyone taking any bets on when these two clowns will claim they are switching to the Obama camp, where they have secretly been since day one. Someone suggested yesterday that Obama is both black and white, and there is that movement that thinks this Republic will destruct if we do not elect a black&white president.
Have a nice day!

Although you Billary supporters have been acting really really dumb lately, we will take you in with open arms.

Democrats unite!

I have always believed that Obama's campaign is an inspiring movement which the Clintons cannot stop. No more Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton dynasty. America wake up!

She can still win the popular vote and for the sake of the party Michigan and Florida should be counted in that vote.

Hillary will win the poular vote and be our nominee.
Superdelegates and surrogate shoild shut up about the race until all the primaries are over.
Whatever the say will be misinterpeted by an alreay bias media and may affect some voters thinking..

The clinton camp, along with HilBill will always want to change the rules or the game plan to win. Hillary is a flip flopper–she will put on the act to get I mean buy, cheat, bully votes and voters anyway she can. She will play the race and gender card till she gets her way. I can hear her behind closed doors screaming that this is HER election and she deserves to win. Must suck that she thought she was the democratic favorite and the competion was alot tougher than thought. If she gets elected we will all lose. Oh, yea and look at the pork barrel monies she was earmarked with.

Before some Clintonian tells the FL/MI myth, too... even with FL/MI as is ... she's losing in the popular vote by 100,000 votes... and that's without counting the "Uncommitted" votes in Michigan as Obama votes.

... she's not winning *ANYTHING* right now except "pledged superdelegates", and most of those had pledged LOOOONG before any outcome was known... (and she hasn't been picking up any new ones, either)....

(P.S., the PPP poll showed Obama up 2% over Clinton in PA, and the Insider Advantage showed Clinton up 3% in PA... so it looks like PA is going to eek out as a tie unless Clinton decides to get caught in any more lies... i.e. ... her last shot at taking the popular vote is *not* happening.

Hillary Clinton is running the same old tired ads. She is not being honest nor truthful with anyone. She always trying to discourage voters to support Sen. Barack Obama. I think she needs to show s her tax return and pursue her legal case in California.

I dont;t understand it but, everybody can't get enough of Hillary bashing! I don't know why, but the Democrats are definitely mean spirited people!!

Clinton supporters by a fair % will go McCain. Don't crown him prez yet

As a Michigan voter I do not feel that the vote here was valid. For weeks before the vote took place we were constantly told that even if we voted, our votes would not matter as the state had broken party rules and had been stripped of it's delegates. So with that in mind, I, and numerous other people in Michigan, chose not to vote at all. it was widely covered that the voting places were virtual ghost towns. no lines. no voter turn out. nothing. it was patheticcally empty all across the state. had I thought my vote wouldve counted, I and many others here, wouldve cast our votes for Edwards or Obama.

Recently, on several occasions, Hillary Clinton has used the film character of Rocky as a way or saying that she will not quit the primary race and that like Rocky she will win no matter what opposes her. I think someone should remind Hillary that in the first Rocky film...he lost!

For all the people slamming Fl and Mi, what if you voted and it didn't count? It's not the citizens fault their votes didn't count, it was the legislatures. The citizens of these two states have a Constitutional right for their votes to be counted, regardless of who they are supporting. Some of you backers, whethter you are pro-Obama or pro-Clinton would be upset if your vote didn't count. So, please layoff these states....its not fair and we ALL know it. It does seem like that Dean is going to be able to get the delegates counted, in this case, they will go to Clinton.

Chuck,

Your numbers are WAAAAY OFF. If Hillary netted 20 delegates over Obama in Pennsylvania she would still be behind by 142 pledged delegates...not 4.

Plain and simple. Hillary cannot win unless she manages the revise the rules in the middle of the game. If she does that, she is no longer a candidate, but a crook.

The media's pro-Obama tilt, its indifference to his resistance to invaliding these states Michigan and Florida, in the 'actual' nomination process is its most disturbing favor,' especially since this brand of ' conventional politics', as Obama would put it , flies in the face of his contention that, ' the people' should pick the nominee. This is what he tells voters, yet his supporters have done every thing not to allow a re-vote in these states.

If Michigan and Florida had been counted from the get go, we would have had a winner by now; oh, wait, do you think the Obama supporters would be crying fowl, of course. Instead, they want to steal away the election just like the Republicans did when Gore lost.

Better yet, had the tables been turned on Obama and it was he in Hillary's position, they would not have stood for this problem the DNC has created? I don't think so.

So if Richardson was a Judas what does this make Corzine and Murtha...

Even if she wins the popular vote, who can deny Obama the nomination if he wins twice as many states as well as more delegates than clinton. Obama has clearly earned the nomination.

For Hillary to win, she needs superdelegates to overturn the delegate lead by obama. I'm kind of like the Cleaver who guy said he is rooting for clinton but has come to accept that Obama will get the nomination

i think other Hillary voters should stop saying they will vote for mcain instead of obama. You guys are so ignorant, your vote shouldnt' count. There are basically no policy differences between obama and clinton. Both will further the democrat agenda and if you are a hillary supporter who doesn't understand....you are pathetic

Stop the hating, both supporters. You Dems had better start uniting.

HILLARY CAN GET THE POPULAR VOTE IF OBAMA WOULD LET THEM BE COUNTED!!!!!!!!

COME ON CNN YOU NEVER PRINT MY POSTS!!!!!

GO HILLARY!!!!

I can hear a faint rumbling from the fat lady . It sounds like she is getting ready to sing.

We are talking about Hill and Bill........I am betting they have a little more spin left in them yet.Should be fun to see what angle they come up with next.Get ready for the mud to fly right before the Pennsylvania vote.Hey Hillary ,see if you can come up with something new this time.The Reverend Wright thing just don't fly anymore.By the way,how are the tax returns coming.We will see them soon ,right.These two mega-ego's just don't get it nor will they ever.

With Obama surging in Pennsylvania, it's about that time for Team Clinton to start spinning Hillary as the underdog. I would love to support America's first woman President, but I insist that it shouldn't be a woman as disgraceful as Hillary Clinton. There are so many other women, other than Hillary, with distinguished service who would bring much more dignity to integrity to the table than either Clinton.

OBAMA STRUTS AROUND LIKE HE HAS IT IN THE BAG!!!!!!

IN REALITY HE HAS A BAG OF DOO DOO!!!!!!!

LETS PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE ON APRIL 22!

VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!

I am a strong supporter of Senator Clinton and do agree that she must make a better stand in the coming primaries. Moreover, I also think that the media has unfairly villified she and (former) President Bill Clinton. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton essentially have the same ideologies; however, she has the most amount of experience between the two of them. Given that fact I think that it should be a foregone conclusion that she prevail as the nominee of the Democratic party in July.

Last of all, Jon Corzine is Governor of New Jersey....he is not a "senator".

Math is hard! Just ask Barbie!

Popular vote (gone to Obama). Pledged delegates (gone to Obama). Superdelegates (slip slidin' away toward Obama).

Shopping, now that's easy! New hat, new shoes, new attitude!

Sadly, if only it were true. Hillary needs a new attitude 'cause the old one ain't workin'.

Two snaps, Barack!

I hear too many people here voting on likeability, We are voting for the President of the US. I for one favor someone with more years experience. The same mistake the Country made with Bush is about to be repeated unless these Obamanation voters wake up and see the handwritung on the wall.

I am not necessarily a clinton fan, but after what happened in the 2000 election, I think it is absolutely outrageous that people continue to suggest that she drop out of the race before the primaries are over. After all, aren't we(democrats) supposed to be for counting ALL of the votes? To suggest that she drop out means you are disenfranchising millions of her supporters in the remaining primaries(I know, because as a resident of florida our votes may not count either). And as far as the florida vote goes, it should be divided according to the votes won by either candidate in florida with the winner getting the greater number of delegates. Michigan should not count since Obama's name was not on the ballot.

What an awful talking point. Many of the caucus states don't even report the popular vote, so how are they supposed to be taken into consideration? Oh yes, I forgot, they don't count (except for Nevada).

I hope the superdelegates have better sense than to jump ship. Stand up for what you believe and what is right! You cannot be double minded and be a leader.
Go Clintons!!!!

OBAMA IS BUSY SPENDING OPRAH'S MONEY TO SMEAR HILLARY!!!!!!

IT WOULD BE NICE IF HE GAVE A LITTLE TO THE POOR!!!!!!!

WHO DO YOU WANT?

SOMEONE ON YOUR LEVEL OR AN ELITIST THAT LOOKS DOWN HIS NOSE AT YOU!!!!!!

I WANT THE ONE I CAN TRUST!

SENATOR CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!

Here's the Three reason's to support Hilary

1. She doesn't have Oprah's support.
2. She has no support form the "business as usual/Old White Boys Club" Washington Crowd like her opponent.
3. She doesn't belong to a Racial Seperatist Church.

Hillary and Bill are fighting for their lives because they probably literally are. They might go the way of Vince Foster. Bill's silly foundation has taken in hundreds of millions of dollars from around the world with the guarantee that Hillary would get elected. That has been their ultimate goal for the last 30+ years when they got married. If she was able to make it into the White House it would elevate them to superstar status around the world and she could start handing out the millions (billions?!) due back to their supporters.

When she gets beat there are going to be some very unhappy people. I honestly can't believe anyone supports these fools. I'd love to see a sampling of intelligence levels because rarely do I see an intelligent argument from anyone supporting her. Generally the people making intelligent arguments in favor of her stand to gain something from her being elected... and even then those arguments are usually based on deceptions, twists or flat-out lies.

** NEWS FLASH **

Obama is winning Hillary. Hang it up. The only thing "Rocky" about you is your marriage and your campaign..

WHEN IS HILLARY GOING TO STOP LYING,WHEN IS SHE GOING TO ACCEPT DEFEAT YOU HAVE HER SUPERDELEGATES TURNING ON HER.PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF THE PARTY GET OUT NOW.

I am a Hillary supporter, but it's pretty obvious sen.Obama will win the nomination based on the math. Anyway, Sen. Obama will get my vote in the general election. I think it's time democrats & independents, and some republicans (who favor democrats) unite and help bring a new generation of leadership to this country. I love Hillary, but I also like Sen. Obama. We are democrats infact. Lets all unite. Obama 2008. Democrats 2008

One of you ask for 3 reasons to vote for Hillary.
1, Not Obama
2.Not Obama
3.Not Obama
I will vote Hillary for the reasons you said not to answer but I will not vote for Obama for any reason. Hillary will win ,so please stop your negative mouthing. It does not make Obama any better. And the Republicans and the Independents who have voted for him will not vote for him in Nov. Get real people.

LISTEN UP PEOPLE.....

Unless she can BLOW him out in SIZEABLE VICTORIES, it WON'T MATTER. I don't care if she manages to run up some popular vote total. I am FRUSTRATED WITH THIS BULL. That campaign and her supporters keep moving the goal post every single week almost. HERE IS SOMETHING YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR, SHE LOSS, get over it!

If there were to reverse positions, there would be calls from all over AMERICA for him to give him! It's time her people told her to give the hell up.

For Kenneth Woodward...here's my 3 now let's see if you can name 3 for Obama and it can't contain – RACE, CHANGE, or PATRIOTISM (Oh yea, you couldn't use that oneanyway could you)

HILLARY
1. She has a plan for all her policy ideas...does Obama? I've never heard it
2. She will actually withdraw the troops unlike Obama who's own foreign policy advisor told reporters that he doesn't really have a plan...he'll have to wait and see what the folks on the ground tell him after he's elected
3. Hillary doesn't tell the American people one thing and then have secret "wink, wink" meetings with foreign coutries, ie. Canada(NAFTA)
4. HILLAY has always been PROUD OF HER COUNTRY!!!

I know you only asked for 3 but I just had to throw that one in there...

Beautiful Chuck. First you argue for the superdelegates voting for whomever they please, but they you turn around and say the caucus in Texas resulted in the delegates stealing the election. This is the problem with the clinton supporters; they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. It is amazing to me that they will repeat the hypocracy and lies that the campaign throws out and then also turn around and acuse everyone else of being blind sheep.

OBAMA IS A LIAR PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!!!

HE DOES NOT WEAR OR SUPPORT OUR GREAT FLAG!!!!!!!

HE DOESN'T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!!!

AND HE IS BLOCKING OUR VOTES!!!!!!!!!

UNPATRIOTIC!!!!!!!!

HE DOESN'T DESERVE OUR VOTES!!!!!!!!

MINE GO TO HILLARY!!!!!!!!

Go Hillary!! Stamp your feet and cry like a little girl!
Go Hillary!!

She will never win the popular vote and they will change there pledge to Obama.

Sounds like they're coming to terms with what we all already know... Hillary's goose is cooked.

Democrats... let's get ready to mobilize behind the best candidate left in the field, and the next president of the United States of America...

BARACK OBAMA '08!!!

hillary clinton supported NAFTA when bill was president and so she is jointly responsible that thousands of good american people lost their jobs like in pennsylvania or ohio!

Seems like these guys finally had time to set down and do the math.

This isn't rocket science....Count the pledged delegates, popular vote, more states won and ladies and gentlemen the winner is.........................................................................................Senator Barack Obama!!!! Yahoo!!!!!

How many more Billary supporters will come out now to say she is so over!!! Haven't heard any new super delegates joining her camp...Jump on the Obama train...it's pulling out April 23rd and heading straight for Denver!!!! Choo Choo!!!!

hillary can win the popular vote, there is still time for her to do it. She can then argue that she carries the must win big states, and with the popular vote she will get the nomination. Hillary 08!

I am still a big Clinton supporter and I absolutely agree with this statement. This is another scenario where you can't just discount MI & FL however. Those people did in fact vote and the votes for Clinton should count for just that - a vote for Clinton. I do believe that with MI & FL in the mix, she will come out on top of the popular vote. That is if the media actually did their job, which they are not.

I watch these news channels a LOT, and all I hear all day long are people talking about the way She needs to get out, how She is tearing the party apart, how She is hurting the democratic party. I think these things are patently false and are fueling anti-Clinton sentiment among the average voter that has yet to vote. I truly do not think it is fair. In addition, the dragging of the DNC's and everyone else's feet in respect to MI & FL has hurt her campaign tremendously. If those votes, even just added into the popular total, would be reported on as actual votes (which they were), then these conversations would be happening much less if at all.

Additionally, I just don't get why everyone is calling on her now and tearing her to pieces now. If it was so impossible then they wouldn't bother. It is also ridiculous in terms of the time-frame of this primary season, given the fact that she just won OH, TX, RI and is favored to win in PA. Why all the superdelegate additions and calling on her to quit now? What are people scared of? What is Obama and his campaign scared of?

In the media and Obama supporters eyes, Clinton can do nothing right. It is a disgusting double-standard that they are applying to this campaign.

What ever Chuck. The Caucus in Texas are votes by the people. The media called the election too soon. To use your rationale I can say if we only count the States that Obama won he wins by a landslide. You can't change the rules and discredit the caucus because HRC is bad at them. ...But I guess that is Clinton logic.

I TOTALLY BELIEVE THAT SHE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!

THE ONLY REASON THAT OBAMA IS STILL IN THIS RACE IS BECAUSE HE IS TREATED LIKE THE GOLDEN BOY IN THE PRESS!!!!!!

EVERY RACIAL COMMENT HE OR HIS WIFE MAKE IS COVERED UP WITH GOOD PRESS!!!!!!

EVERY LIE (NAFTA) MORE GOOD PRESS!!!!!!!

REVEREND WRIGHT AND TOM REZKO LAND DEALS?
COVERED WITH GOOD PRESS!!!!!!!

THE WORST IS THE SUPPRESSION OF OUR VOTES IN FL AND MI!!

HILLARY ISN'T DOING THESE THINGS!

I TRUST HER! GO HILLARY WE SUPPORT YOU!!!!!!

Hahaha that's hilarious. I can guarantee you this, more than 65% of Obama supporters had either drop out of school or can't even spell "Judiciary." Thank you.

Obama supporters need to snap out of his dream world fantasy. United States will NEVER change under his administration. After we get a few laughs of his inexperience, we'll see the Vice-President step up, whoever that poor sap would be. I can't want to see United States fall in the hands of a "pop star" icon.

It's like would you prefer Chocolate that would in the end cause you teeth decay orrrr you could have vegetables that would help you in many ways.

what is it with hillary we are working on the papers for my white house days then their was little imformation tells obama to produce us tax returns but you have to wait for mine and you have to two weeks for my march donation then she gets a3am phone call telling her we are under attack well call me back in 2 weeks

She says every vote should be counted every voice heard. Then her campaign suggests going to the superdels if she is BEHIND in the popular vote? How can you possibly trust this woman?

"Hillary is in this to the end." That's what we hear over and over and over. What endgame does she accept? If she doesn't end up getting the nomination, do her supporters accept this? Realize, Hillary's not following the rules in MI and FL does not make her a "Campion of Democracy." HRC's making such a claim is tanamount to supression and disenfranchisement. Catch a clue folks.

The question isn't whether she will win the popular vote: if all votes are counted, then she likely will do so. The question is, Will she be Perceived as having won the popular vote? If the delegates of Fl and Mi are seated disproportionate to the vote, then she will look as though she has not. This is why DNC's monkeying around with the delegates should not be allowed. This is why the DNC is suddenly desirous of "seating" the delegates. They will seat them, but not fairly apportion them.

Kenneth Woodard asked:
"Can you state three reasons why you support Hillary Clinton. The reasons can not contain the following three words: Experience, Solutions or Female."

1. Bill Clinton will be the real president.
2. Bill Clinton will be the real president.
3. Bill Clinton will be the real president.

even pop. vote is misleading, how do you count the pop vote in a caucus vs. a primary? The caucus, by nature, will have less "votes" then a primary. The clinton logic is that not giving each state their due is a disenfranchisement so counting states that had primaries more than caucuses is a similar disenfranchisement.

To Kenneth Woodard's three reasons:

You're a moron; You're a moron and you're a moron.

D.W.; Miami, FL

YOU SAID IT BEST!!!

. . . .
[b]2) Rules are useless and Obama should be penalized for following them.[/b]

And why doesn't the media every ask her

[b]"Then Hillary, why did you sign the DNC's agreement if you felt it would disenfranchise voters?[/b]

Winning the popular vote would not be enough for Clinton since, using racial dog whistle, she is appealing to republicans who, at the end of the day, will vote for McCain. Obama is attracting people from all venues of life and ideologies because he is a new kind of politician, not because he is frigthening the public with 3 am events. This election is not only about winning, but about changing manners and dialoguing with regular citizens, most of them in need of new approaches to public life.

Obama has won the red states only so far. He lost all big blue states. Of course, Dem can just give this election to the Rep. again.

Summer's over... Time to go home campers...

Viva Presidente Obama! Viva America! Si se puede!

Hillary all the way. YEA!!!

Out of all the tricks and sneakiness of the Clintons, i admire her persistance even if it is for a selfish reason. I watch CNN everyday and I used to think.. what great momentum our two democratic nominees have, but HILLARY!!!!! started playing dirty and that is why she is in the mess she is in now. No one believes in Hilalry any more and that her downfall. At least it was with me!

Obama is winning because a bunch of white people without pride are voting for him. Wait till more of his racist past comes out and see how you are going to feel.

I can see it now... Obama calling Pastor Wright for advise... afterall he is his mentor and that was his exact word "mentor".

Also, how happy the black panters are Louis Farrakan are going to feel just as happy as they did on 911. Maybe a lot of American have forgotten how sad that day was, but I haven't.

No for Obama!!!

Let FL and MI count. Or tell them to skip the GE at all once.

Hillary is a gutsy fighter! This is a first contest when people discount experience because they are charmed by S. Obama's talk of change! I want to see him change his church first!

Hillary will continue to fight for the nomination to the bitter end. There is no doubt. It disgusts me that Floridian voters were told their vote won't count yet Clinton's name was the only one on the ballot.

The laughable part of that is that she still could not capture 60% of democrats votes even when there was no-one else to vote for!!

What would be more disgusting is if the people of America vote for Obama and Hillary gets nominated do to the superdelegate vote. Can you imagine what would happen? I could see the LA riots all over again...Nationwide....

Bill don't take this so hard.....but you got to chill out and get out before you and Hill get booted out .

Obama supporters need to get real. He will NOT beat McCain. If you think anything Hillary has done has been negative, then Obama is in no way ready for the Big Bad Republican Attack Machine, he's too much of a wimp. And to be honest with you, I don't trust someone who isn't a bit negative...negatives are just as important as positives. What are you hiding Mr. Obama that the Republicans will surely find?! I swore I'd vote for McCain if Obama won the nomination but have since recanted because, and ONLY because, I don't want someone like McCain nominating 2 or more Supreme Court Justices. Hope, dream, "can" all you want, if Obama runs against McCain then all you Obama backers have only yourselves to blame.

What's wrong with using the popular vote? It shows exactly who the people want for their president. We really need to change our voting rules back to the American way.

Would somebody – anybody- please tie the bell on Hillary?!?

Chuck: Please go to Remedial Math ASAP!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

finally people are standing agains the Clinton Machine, just be forwarned, she will attack each of you back and call you names and say things like they have been doing with Richardson and everyone else, HOWEVER, people are FINALLY standing up against the fear tactics, the kitching sink campaign, the old politics as usual and overall against the neverending clinton machine............

Obama 08
or
McCain 08

anyone but the old billarys

For Corzine and Murtha: You and your crowd,which includes Hillary, are going to lose this election because you are so "hyper-party". If you had shown yourselves to support the best for our country rather than what you want for your party, Hillary could have likely won. Instead, even democrats are choosing a man they don't even know in the belief that he brings 'hope' - they have no idea. I don't believe you were sent to the Senate to try to ruin republicans but to serve the best interests of the US. Your party-line spinning has become sickening.

Now, don't you wish you were better able to reach across the aisle and get bi-partisan agreements which could improve our country? Hope you have learned something or maybe retire.

More realists and pragmatists who are hedging somewhat to push the Clintons, ever so gently, to an endgame where they won't selfishly "take home all the marbles." She MUST pull out a miracle, not a train wreck, to win this nomination. If not, she must walk away gracefully and put to rest whatever petty grievences she might have. Obama has created a Movement that is her Perfect Storm. Whatever aspirations she had are no match for the organization, management and momentum that Obama has generated. THAT'S A FACT, JACK.

And she will, Florida and Michigan are not disenfranchised.

The old saying two heads are better than one may not be necessarily so–Maybe, she'll carry Pennslyvania big time.

What happened to, 'its a delegate race?' Hasn't it been set up as a race for the most delegates from the beginning? People are giving the clinton's too much leeway. This is nuts.

Even with the two revotes she would have to win every primary that is left....

Hillary claims 35 years of experience according to Money magazine the Clinton's net worth is almost 35 million. Therefore her "experience" seems to be a good way for her to make money.

Whether or not she were to win the popular vote (and it is extremely unlikely at this point) is completely irelevant.

Though Clinton supporters want to establish this as some kind of benchmark that would allow her to pressure Superdelegates to overturn the will of the people, the fact is that if the Superdelegates were to overturn the will of the people (pledged delegates is how that is judged, not the popular vote count), the Democratic party as we know it would be decimated for years to come.

There is simply no way on earth Hillary canwin the Democratic nomination without fracturing the party into several waring factions because she cannot do it without forcing the Superdelegates to overturn the will of the people.

OBAMA ,DOES NOT CARE ABOUT FL. MI .IF HE DID HE WOULD LEAD THE FIGHT FOR A REVOTE INSTEAD HE CHOSE TO COWER JOHN McCAIN IS GOING TO BEAT HIM IN NOVEMBER HOWS THAT FOR ALL YOU HOPE &CHANGE FOOLS

Who cares if Jimmy Carter backs Obama – I would never value an
opinion from an anti-semetic person like him ex president or not !

Corzine is the Govenor of the State of NJ and not a Senator, as the author of this article states

chuck: Where are you getting your numbers? Obama has 1,414 pledged delegates to Clintons 1,243. So she would gain 20 delegates, which is still much less than the 171 she is currently behind in pledged delegates. That's the problem with the Clinton campaign. They just make up numbers to support their position.

When will the Obamites realize it's going to take ALL the Democrats to win in November? Better stop hatin' on Hillary supporters whether she drops out or not.

Clinton will win by huge margin in PA and other coming states. At the end of the day, if Florida and Michigan is counted, Clinton will be victorious.

Go Hillary.

Hillary might not win the nomination. The Caucuses are oriented against Hillary's base supporters and are undemocratic and unfair. Not counting Michigan and Florida is also undemocratic and unfair.

But.....Obama will NOT WIN THE GENERAL!

Traitors! Judaseseses!
They must have been promised a cabinet position!

Two more superdels have seen the light and appear to be mustering the courage to expressed their beliefs publicly. Add in Jimmy Carter and the light at the end of the tunnel for HRC is burning out.

Interesting to note is that 72% of the declared superdelegates from states that voted for Clinton are supporting Clinton, while only 63% of the declared superdelegates in states that voted for Obama are supporting Obama.

So the claims that Richardson should be supporting Clinton because huis state voted for Clinton by a razor thin margin are somewhat hollow.

Also, more of the remaining undeclared superdelegates are from Obama states than Clinton states.

I don't see her winning the delegate count OR the popular vote. She may pull off a win in Penn by single digits.

FYI, Corzine is no longer Senator in NJ – he is the governor now.

WOULD YOU LIKE AN AMATEUR TO LEAD THE NATION? Not vetted & spent 2 yrs in the Senate & with shady dealings everywhere?

The presidential post is no time for on the job training! We need a leader with intelligence & will to fight for our everyday cause!

With 10 elections ahead, including FL & MI, HILLARY will be ahead of the popular vote after June!

This is sad because Hillary is obviously more prepared to be President.
If you think about it, every argument used by Obama is bogus.
He was not in the Senate when the vote for Iraq came up. So he never voted against it. He would have probably voted for it just like all the rest...based on the information they all received.
He is not allowing a revoting in Michigan and Florida which would probably give Hillary an advantage. So she probably has the popular vote.
He has no experience what-so-ever to be President and has gone after college kids to get his votes. Those kids have turned around and made their parents vote for him. All based on what?
This election is sad.

YOU KNOW WHATS SO FUNNY ABOUT ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS REMARKS IS THE FACT THAT IF OBAMA DOES GET THE NOM, HE'S GOING TO NEED ALL THE MILLIONS OF LOYAL HILLARY SUPPORTERS VOTES. YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION WITH JUST THE YOUNG VOTE AND AFRICAN-AMERICANS. AS OF RIGHT NOW ALMOST 40% OF HILLARY SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. WHY? BECAUSE OF ARROGANT COCKY REMARKS JUST LIKE THESE. IM A HILLARY SUPPORTER AND SO ARE ALL MY FRIENDS, FAMILY AND CO-WORKERS WHOM ARE HRC SUPPORTERS SAY THEY WILL NOT VOTE BO IF GETTING THE NOM AND I WILL NOT EITHER. SO KEEP YOUR SNOTTY REMARKS GOING SO YOU CAN PUSH THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS FARTHER INTO JOHN MCCAINS CORNER AND I GUARANTEE YOUR PRESIDENT OBAMA DREAMS ARE GOING RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW!

If Senator Clinton does not win the primary election, it will be the American people who lose. Instead, we'll have an amateur in the White House at a time when we desperately need the great leadership this capable, intelligent woman, who has a great deal of insight into the issues, could provide.

Kenneth Woodward, what is wrong with having experience or solutions? Take away the word "change" and you would have nothing to say about Obama.

You know what happens if this country gets worse? Change.
You know what happens if this country gets better? Change.

Change isn't enough. It has to be the RIGHT change.

trouble is near for Hillary.

I am convinced if Obama wins the nomination and election, Clinton will be there at the signing in and demand that the job is hers. They will have to drad her off.

Hillary WILL NOT win the popular vote! Hillary supporters are so delusional! It's unbelievable! I can't believe someone implied that she would!

CLINTON MAY HAVE LOST THE NOMINATION, BUT IT WILL BE OBAMA WHO WILL LOSE THE ELECTION.

LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD OBAMAITES ENJOY THE FANTISY NOW.

THIS CLINTON SUPPORTER WILL BE VOTING FOR MCCAIN.

I find it very hypocritical of Clinton supporters to whine about disenfranchisement in Florida and Michigan, while at the same time saying the popular vote should pick the nominee. How do they plan to reconcile the difference in voter turnout in caucus states compared to primary states? Or should caucus states just count three fifths as much as a primary state? Delegates are designed to offset this difference, so if does come down to who has more votes, going by pledged delegates is inherently more accurate than a national popular vote count.

Go Obama!!! No more Clintons!!!

I wan people to know one thing

Caucus states do not count in the popular vote. So this shows hows well Obama does out side Caucuses. If you counted the caucases vote for the states without primaries the lead would be much diffrent.

Remember though Clinton cares about voters voting unless she doesn't win and then wants the superdelgates to go over voters head.

Go go go go go go go! Hillary!

Can you state 3 reasons why Obama should not be slected President.
Answer
Liar
Big talk/no action
Rev Wright

Good once are not to be hidden and the Bible said that the light of the Lord cannot been hidden ın his city Amen
Noble from Europe
OBAMA 2008 come on stand for Changs and we believe that their will be Change in the World too

One can only hope the superdelegates will be so thoughtful as to consider the choice made by the people!

In the end the super deligates will look at a few items.
Obama
1) Total states he won in demicratic nomination race
2) States he won in demicratic nomination race that will be blue in general election
3) States he won in demicratic nomination race that will be red in general election regardless of he or Hillary won in their nomination battle
4) States he won in the demicratic nomination race that are purple states
5) Most deligates
6) Popular vote
7) Can he beat McCain
What the supers think the Mr Wright issue will do to their chances of getting the white house in the general
9) What the supers think the Mr Rezko issue will do to their chances of getting the white house in the general

Hillary
1) Total states she won in demicratic nomination race
2) States she won in demicratic nomination race that will be blue in general election
3) States she won in demicratic nomination race that will be red in general election regardless of if she or Obama won their nomination battle
4) States won in the demicratic nomination race that are purple states
5) Most deligates
6) Popular vote (If they count votes only Florida and Michigan not deligates
7) Can he beat McCain

I have a suggestion:

Divide FL & MI votes in half. Give each Candidate half of the half. Once the popular votes across the nations are tallied, split the remaining votes based on teh popular votes.

In essence 366/2 =183 or round up to 184
Clinton: 92 and Obama 92

After the final tally of popular votes, divide the 182 based on the overall country's popular vote.

You cannot add in MI to the mix, Obama was not even on the ticket there!! Clinton left her name on it though, although she lead every one to believe she would not, on the advice of her good friend and supporter the GOV!

Another underhanded move from the Clintons....makes you think this was their plan all along....hmmmm, good back up stategy in case things go off the rails, which they did!

Same thing in Florida, but both were on the ballot, although no one campaigned their but the Clintons

the american election is not by popular vote. we would not have had 8 yrs of bush.

GOVERNOR Corzine

If she was in the lead I am willing to bet money she would not care about Floriday or Michigan but it is only because she is behind that she is insisting t hat they get counted. Also if the tables were turned around and Obama was the one who was behind also she would be the one wanting him to exit the race.

Anything she wants is only for her own interest ONLY.

WHERE ARE YOUR TAXES HILARY!!!! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR IF THERE IS NOTHING TO HIDE WHY IS THERE SUCH A DELAY IN SHOWING THEM COME ON NOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO SEE

Hillary....PLEASE RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT!!!!!!

One problem with these Clinton supporters' theory....

The nomination goes to the candidate who wins the delegate count.... NOT THE POPULAR VOTE!!! regardless of whether or not the magic number is hit, it has always been a delegate issue. This keeps someone from winning the nomination if they can only win Uber-large states.

What HRC and company want you to believe is that NY and California mean more than the will of 25 other states. WRONG, Hillary!

I am from NY and I have voted for both Hillary and Bill, but the HRC team needs to STOP trying to change the rules already!!!!!

One more attempt to make it past the CNN censors. Why do these articles continue to raise the possibility of not counting the popular vote in Florida and Michigan? The delegate tally remains a hot topic, but I believe the rule of the land is one man one vote. How can the actual votes themselves be dismissed? A fair adjudication would show that the popular vote tally is extremely close between Clinton and Obama, which can easily be overcome in the next 10 contests. Thus, it would be quite premature to be making victory speeches or overtures to folks like Al Gore to serve on cabinet positions.

Did you know that a chicken can run around, flapping her wings, with her head cut off for up to 8 MONTHS!... That's alright... we can wait. There's a dinner party scheduled for Obama in November; right around the time that chicken will finally die. The main course? Bosnian style Chicken a la Carte, served in a pant suite.

I wonder how long until they further move the goal post and come up with some other reason why she should be the nominee... It seems like she has a very hard time coming it terms with reality, now who does that remind me of....

Yeah !!! Winning the peoples votes would be a good start.

I am so disgusted with the Clinton supporters continually trying to change the party rules.

She won't win the popular vote unless she really presses the Jeremiah Wright and Tony Rezko issues. The problem is that she has plenty of those type of scandals herself.

I think that if in the end the Dems split the deligates 50/50 for Florida and Michigan and I strongly disagree with splitting them 50/50. I think it should be split according to the votes in each states and who got what %. As it is Obama would get the undecided vote when that could have been for Edwards
I think the super deligates will have no choice but to look at the popular vote Hillary won in those states. It is symbolic but Hillary won by a wide margin and that can not be ingnored by the super deligates. The supers also have to look at the most recent polls in Florida and Michgan to see who these states would vote for now if the vote was re-done tomorrow
The states were stripped of their deligates but the vote still happened and you can not discount the people who voted

Good news!!! Super delegates that endorsed Hillary are siding with Obama.

Uh, CNN Corzine is the Gov not the Sen from Jersey.

Work on calling in PA by going to HillaryClinton.com

Corzine isn't NJ senator. He's been Governor since January 2007

Corzine isn't a Senator, though he was before he won the governorship of the New Jersey.

What Hillary needs to do is to get Al Gore to endorse Obama – as history has shown, that will be the end of Obama...

We need to get this over so we can take on John McCain on a united front!!!!

Jon Corzine is the current New Jersey GOVERNOR and former Senator. Please make it correct!

Thank you Captain Obvious and Duh-Man.

Corzine needs to wake up and smell the coffee as the rest of educated New York voters have. Clinton's lies, empty promises and unpaid campaign vendors have proven that she is not what is best for New York or the United States!

If Super delegates ignore popular vote, and nominate other candidate, it would divide the party with damaging outcome in general election. How can you factor in results from Florida and Michigan, when the primary in both state was flowed? If democrats sit the delegate from both the state, it should be split 50/50 or as per the popular vote percentage from other states.

This is very simple:
Obama wins= Mc Cain winss in November
Clinton wins= Clinton wins in November.
I'm from NJ. and I think Mr. Governor Corzine shoul vote for Hillary, regardless of popular vote, period!!!!!

It will be wise on the part of superdelegates to rally around Obama should he emerge with the lead in pledged delegates and popular votes!

This is the only best way to resolve this issue.
It is good to know though that even with MI and FL counted, Obama would still lead!

Great piece of information

I don't think it would be legitimate to count MI and FL in the popular vote since those votes were made under irregular circumstances. Why would you tally votes from a state in which all candidates were not on the ballot? Even if all candidates were on the ballot, you can't interpret the popular vote to mean anything if some voters purposefully stayed home because they thought their votes would not be taken to the convention.

Judas Murtha and Judas Corzine better watch out.

Hillary Clinton rejects their suggestion.

Senator Obama is LEADING Clinton in the POPULAR VOTE BY 700,000! How can she possibly catch up? She is already losing her lead in Pennsylvania, last week she was ahead by 12% now its only 9%.

Sen. Obama is the choice of the people. He has more delegates, a huge lead in the popular vote and I believe that the people of Pennsylvania will vote for him!

People want CHANGE and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton IS NOT change!

OBAMA 08!

I think she should leave the campaign soon so as not to risk any more negativity of herself.This reminds me of Huckabee and how he kept trying for so long to stay in there hoping for a miracle.At this point I think she'd have to go and play really dirty,but that would only alienate people further.

Hillary will win the popular vote via the remaining contests b/c of the key swing vote in these states: Archie Bunker Democrats who don't want to vote for Obama

At least, they are not as delusional as the one they support.

Jon Corzine is the Governor of New Jersey...not a Senator!

Jon Corzine is the governor of New Jersey, not a senator. He used to be a senator.

It is good to see some of her people aren't warm to the idea of taking the nomination even if they are in second place in every regard... unlike the Candidate herself.

It is worth pointing out that polling now gives her a 3-5% lead in Pennsylvania, down from 10%+ one week ago.

She can't and wont catch up in the popular vote with a win in those margins. If her numbers continue to decrease she may in fact lose Pennsylvania.

Penn. is her last hope to gain traction, it is the biggest state left and her last real shot to narrow Obama's lead, it looks like that isn't going to happen.

If she loses Penn. she is toast, and I believe that she will drop out... at least I hope she has the decency to do that.

ANYTHING FOR HILLARY.
THE RULES STATE IT'S A DELEGATE RACE, BUT LET'S CHANGE THEM FOR HILLARY.
THEY AGREED NOT TO COUNT FLORIDAY AND MICHIGAN, BUT LET'S CHANGE THAT RULE FOR HILLARY.

WHY HAVE PRIMARIES. WE COULD HAVE SAVED 100S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BY JUST GIVING IT TO HER IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It is not gonna happen. She will not win the popular vote, she will not get more votes than Obama. She has no support, cannot raise any money. She's done.

Obama Bumper Sticker – $2.00
Obama Campaign Contribution – $100
Gas tank fill upon way to polls – $40
Hillary Clinton's Concession Speech – Priceless

NO SHE MUSN"T.
NO MORE CLINTONS.
NO MORE BUSHES.

Why wait for a pot of Gold. Drop out now. It cant be done. This is tmore bad news that she instructed her staff not to bring her. Its like the witch on the Wizard of Oz, "dont bring me no bad news". Then drop out or prepare for lots of bad news.

Finally!! Hillary supporters come out and tell the truth about this situation. Will the other Hillary supporters stop saying that Barack Obama is not going to win the nomination? Or will they stop saying that the media is favoring Obama? The facts are, there are more people in this country that believe that Barack Obama would make a better President then Hillary Clinton. We voted, and the #'s reflect his supporters.

Hillary will NOT win the popular vote unless she rigs the remaining elections or Obama falls off a cliff. Good luck with that.

there's NO WAY she'll get the popular vote, obama is absolutely smoking her there.

this makes me very happy cuz i was nervous about the superdelegates, but if these insiders dont think she'll get enough of them, i feel better about it.

OBAMA/??? 08

Obama should quit before being humiliated this fall

The tide is inexorable.The Wall Street Journal suggested today that Harry Reid seriously consider offering his postion as Majority Leader to Hillary in return for the suspension of her campaign.This might well appeal to a candidate who has proven that she would need just such an outsized inducement to offset the bitterness of steppimg aside.i hope Reid will carefully and selflessly consider this suggestion..

This is nothing new, I have been saying this for a long time. You can't buy or agrue the election from the people, you must earn it through legal votes.

It doersn't matter. Both Obama and Clinton will lose to McCain.

she needs to finish strong and win the popular vote... the whole reason Obama does not want a revote in MI and FL... he would most likely lose both and the popular vote for sure...

my question is if they count the vote in Florida does she get the popular vote numbers??? I think she would be ahead or just a little behind...

I agree. As a Hillary supporter I would agree this is the only arguement we have left. I would prefer that she wins but if she doesn't I would hope that she would do whatever it takes to make sure she unites the party. Otherwise I probably will not vote and take pride in not being one of the many taking part in this childish back and forth bickering that is going on. I can honestly say that the candidates might be better than the actual people voting for them. Wow

About says it all.

I personally will have a problem with Michigan or Florida delegates being seated at the convention. The democratic party put together the rules, everyone agreed, and the states did it anyway knowing the consequences. I have a hard time respecting a party that will give them a "get out of jail free" card. What are we really teaching people if we can't even follow simple rules? This is what makes me have a lack in faith for the democratic party. You set the rules, follow them. Period.

P.S. Pro-Hillary bloggers are going to be fired up now! It's going to be some angry blogging going on!

Let's go to the White House Obama!

These guys are joking ...

The contest is over

Where was Hillary when Obama was winning 13 in a row? She was busily Guillaning.

This is so sad. The Dems are throwing away the election. The republicans are already running against Obama. If you listen to the responses, T.V., radio, print media and blogs, not just what you hear in your personal cave's BHO supporters, American's are afraid of Barak and his lack of experience. This is not the time for training wheels and supporters with a chip on their shoulder about race issue. The republicans are talking about issues not wishes and the 60’s.
So sad!

She is not going to win I don't know why she just don't bow out gracefully. Instead of making a mockery of herself.

There will be a revote in both of those states. Otherwise the DUH DEMS are DOOMED in Novuhhmmmm'brrrrrrrrr

OBAMA 08! It's time for change!

she will win in PA...say something new

I'm glad to see that not all Clinton supporters have the same slash and burn mentality that Sen. and President Clinton have.

It is beyond ridiculous that Hillary should now be penalized- actually penalized- for a DNC catastrophic blunder.

I think that the superdelegates should act as if the delegates for Florida and Michigan were seated- regardless of whether they are or not- when making their decisions. Real votes were cast- we cannot deny this fact.

I am ashamed of my party.

At least these people are being honest. It's an intelligent reaction.

Hillary the people have spoken!

And you you state in your NEW ad " ASK ME" – Let me do just that:

Why is it that you keep moving the stakes everytime Obama meets the previous bar you and your campaign post?

Why do you inist on seperating this party?

Why do you claim that you belive in transparency in much the same way that Obama does, however, you have yet to share with us your tax returns or what your campaign raised last month?

Why did you feel the need to embellish what "really" happened in Bosnia (which by the way you did 3 times- so it is no accident)?

Why have you mislead america into believing that you have 30 years of direct experience in foreign affairs?

Why can't you manage the financial aspect of your campaign?

Why is it that you can't seem to pay your bills on time?

And afterall all of these facts, why do you believe that you're better than Obama? Haven't "SEEN" why yet!

LORD HELP US. THIS IS MORE THAN I COULD HAVE HOPED FORE.

I HAVE A NEW FOUND RESPECT FOR CORZINE AND MURTHA.

THEY JUST TOLD HILLARY, YOU WIN OR YOU DON'T WIN.

IT'S ON YOU. THAT MEANS HILLARY WILL HAVE NO DIRTY HELP.

I think we just need to face reality that clinton cant win this time period, they have tried everything on this earth to put obama down and they are not winning, i believe what the bible say they is a season for everything and i believe this is obama season, just let it go, it was not ment to be,

I think what both senators said hits the nail on the head,it´s not like they are not being loyal to the Clintons like they often claim but, being realistic and having the voters in mind: be it the Clinton or Obaman supporters.

Her and her supporters are riding a dead horse. She cant even pay her bills or her campain people. Her campain has gone down hill from the start. It is not the direction I want this country to go. And I dont want sombody pissing down my back and telling me its raining.

Correction!!

"Corzine also suggested he himself may cast his superdelegate vote for Obama should Clinton fail to win the popular vote, though the New Jersey senator insisted he thought Clinton would come out on top in that count if the Florida and Michigan contests were counted."

Corzine is our governor. He used to be senator but he's been our governor for a while now.

Yes but all the votes must be counted and that means Florida and Michigan. Obama cannot be nominated if he does not have the popular vote as well which includes these 2 states. If they exclude these states I will vote Republican for McCain, period. Many others will do the same so the DNC has to pay for the re-votes in the 2 sates or else.

I keep leaving comments but they never appear. Where are the 2006-2007 tax records? Afraid to release them before PA? Hillary is a joke.

Hey Billary Supporters, let's admit, THIS RACE IS OVER. Let's endorse Obama and move on to the next round of defeating McCain.

FLORIDA HAD A TAX ISSUE ON THE BALLOT.THAT IS WHY 1.7 MILLION SHOWED UP TO VOTE. IN EVERY STATE THAT HAS VOTED THERE HAVE BEEN MORE DEMOCRATICS WHO SHOWED UP TO CAST THERE VOTE THAN REPUBILCAN EXECPT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

There is no way that the votes in Fla .and Mich can count.The delegates should be seated in a way that is nondecisive to race.How would you count 328,000 to 0 in Michigan???These are prominant supporters of Clinton.Give it up or say hello to President McCain.

Why on earth cant all of these blowhards that are making predictions keep out of the race and let the elections run their course?

Billary will not win the popular vote.
I feel sorry for the MI and FL voters – their state representatives messed up their primaries and should be fired for it!

Clinton (as well as all other presidential candidates) AGREED to NOT seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan because they violated the DNC rules, so she is not entitled to the popular vote from those states, anymore than Barack Obama...oh, I forgot. Barack Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan.

We Want Hillary As Our Next President! Not Obama Mama Or Mcsame

And she'll do that! I can accept it if she does not get the nomination as long as Florida and Michigan are given their voice in this. What I will do with certainty, as an independent for Hillary, will be to vote for the second most experienced and person of integrity – McCain. I can accept if Hillary doesn't get the nomination – but I will not vote for a two faced golden boy who has done nothing to better the lives of inner city Chicago as he's claimed.

CLINTON HAS TO WIN THE OVERALL POPULAR VOTE, TO GET THESE

BOYS HELP..THAT HOWEVER, IS MATHEMATICALLY NOT POSSIBLE

WITHOUT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF CHEATING. WHICH I DON'T

THINK THE DNC WILL DO. WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE CHADS.

that's fair as long as they count all the votes and looks transparent. There are 50 states.... all the votes

Calling all Hillary supporters.
Lets all send at least $5 or $10 today. Lets show Obama camp that we matter and our vote counts.
GO HILLARY!!!!!!
I'm sending mine today.

I agree with them, 100%. I am a Sen Clinton backer, I love her and would support her all the way to the convention, but since both Sens Obama and Clinton cannot get to 2024 in delegates, the plan B of Superdelegates should be the popular votes, which would go down very smoothly with most democrats.

Many of us could get "closing" feeling great that it was the one who most democrats voted for as their nominee. Florida and Michigan and all the primary states would have to be figured into the outcome.

I think with that kind of a resolution, I would feel that it is fair and I could support the nominee 100% even if it is Sen Obama.

Right now what I am fearful of, is that the old boys club is going to prematurely force Sen Clinton out of the race for a sort of an Obama coronation, and I find I would suffocate just thinking about that scenario.

Doing the math, it is hard to see Clinton pulling the numbers that will be needed to overtake Obama in either to popular or delegate votes. There just aren't enough primaries left. I have been surprised that there has been little discussion of Hillary's "experience" or disclosure of her White House schedule. Clinton alleges a significant experience advantage over Obama, despite having only 6 years vs. his 11 years in elected office. Granted she played a key role in a developing a failed health care proposal early in her husband's first term, but I am unaware of any other policy making experience or role. Is there any merit to her claims? Very important to know if I am to accept her experience argument. Why hasn't there been more scrutiny of this? I personally have close relationships (as many of us do) with people in high profile positions, but having a friend that plays in the NFL does not make me an experienced football player any more than being married to a former president makes Hillary an experienced politician. So again I ask, if this is being put on her resume, we have a right to know if there is any veracity to her claims.

That's only fair as long as they count all the votes... it has to look transparent.

How is Hillary going to win the popular vote when she's so – well – unpopular?

Woohoo!!

This is fun!

I love HRC, but I am voting Obama for my President!!!!

The drama continues... what will Hillary supporters say now? Maybe something intelligent? nah, what fun would that be? It would make these comment sections really boring anyone, though it might up the integrity of back and forths

CheckMate!!!!

It is fair to say Clinton will need to close the gap in the popular vote. This is not scandalous. Murtha just threw his support behind Hillary. He is not retreating but rallying the troops to turn out in big numbers on April 22. Hillary is doing better nationally. I believe she will re extend her Pennsylvania lead in the week before the primary.

I am hopping she does or else I will have jump on the Obama train and I really don't want to.

I don't care what anybody says. I don't HAVE to win anything in order to get the nomination. It's never been about winning. It's about making everyone else lose, until I'm the only one left standing.

im just waiting for Obama the hypocrate to take the nomination so i can switch to republican as i did when i voted for Ronald Reagan. I have not trusted Obama since 07' and it will be a cold day in hell before i ever trust that one. He has his fingers in so much corruption and people are being so fooled by his stupid speeches. Have a great time Obama supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Sen. Clinton's supports have limts.

Wow, you guys are just wanting James Carville to call you names, aren't you?

How can you morons count any of the votes in Michigan for Obama? His name wasn't on the ballot. The uncomitted vote is not a true number to represent Obama's popular vote total. A mojority of voters stayed home due to the stupid government's decision in Michigan to break party rules.

What is wrong with people. She wants to break the rules in order to win. It was agreed that Florida and Michigan wouldn't count. Have some integrity and honor what you agreed to.

Are the Hillary supporters gonna call them traitors too?

Corzine is the Governor and former Senator from NJ.

Lol......At least her supporters are HONEST with themselves and I respect their decision to cast his vote for Obama if he wins the popular vote. Going against the voice of the people basically defeats the purpose of the primaries. She cries about "disenfranchising" the Michigan and Florida voters but suggesting super delegates pick the 2nd place candidate would be disenfranchising the entire nation.

She's a hypocrite and I'm glad she got slapped in the face for her cockiness in believing we "owed" her the presidency. Good for her.

Obama 08!!!

Well in that case its over....do the math!

she will win the popular vote PERIOD

Carter what?

A funny thing happened on the way to the general election. Bush started to look better, and McCain became a viable option for Democrats.

The media love affair with the Obama super con made television viewing a thing of the past. The far right began to seem less dangerous and more sensible than the far left and many Americans became ashamed of their country for the first time.

Racism and racial division increased at an exponential rate, and the candidate of hope and unity became the candidate of disbelief and dispair.

Go ahead Democrats make the super con with his old style politics your nominee and watch democrats flock to McCain!

And there you have it. Billary has lost!
Give up now when there is hope we can defeat the republicans..

She will stoop to any low and she is willing to tear the party apart for her wimps and fancies!! Sicks I tell you makes me sick...

She can not win the popular vote, is Obama who do that and will do it again and again, pls Mrs Clinton giveup,the figth this time, try again next time after 4 yrs.the game is over Obama is the person,all white,black, native,latinos and asia america want to lead ur country as presdent for 2008/2009 after world police Bush,so do not give the vote to Mc cain pls pls go away.

From Germany

President Carter: Please get on the bandwagon and officially endorse Barack Obama. He will make a great President. Thank you for your wonderful service to our country.

Ok, Obama has won Colorado, Missouri, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Virginia, all crucial swing states. He came within 1 percentage point of winning New Mexico, another state destined to be tight this year. Please tell me how HRC is supposed to be a "stronger" candidate when she has only won a state with more than 60% one time? Obama has racked up numerous 4-2 and 3-1 wins over her, and her supporters say that since she won Ohio, Texas, and California she is more electable. The Florida and Michigan "wins" are debatable. Besides this point, a primary win doesn't mean you will win that state in the fall. HRC or Obama aren't going to win Texas in the general election, and will have to fight in Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania. Obama can win in places like Virginia and Colorado, while she probably would do well in West Virginia and Arkansas. They both have their strengths, but I don't think HRC is necessarily more "electable".

The popular vote argument is fatally flawed. A number of Obama's wins have come in caucus states, where the popular vote was never recorded. In Iowa for example, he beat her by 9 points in the caucus math but most experts had the overall number of supporters demonstrating a MUCH bigger gap.

YOU can't win, Hillary. You can't win. Congratulations on losing the nomination that was SUPPOSED to be yours by Feb. 5. Poor managment skills and exposure of the REAL you have lead to this great collapse. Dems must unite behind Obama unless they want 4 more years of Republican BS. Love him or hate him, Obama is a better choice than the War-Supporting, NAFTA-Loving, Bush-Tax-Break-To-The-Rich-Giving John McCain.

Obama/Richardson '08

Her win the popular vote? How can she when a good majority of America can't stand her? What will they do..try to remake her image? It won't ever happen.

This sounds like the superdelegates telling the country they will not overturn the voters of the democratic party. Now what happens if she has the most popular vote and he has the most delegates??

She must win popular vote & most delegates. PERIOD.

Looks like two more Clinton super delegates beginning to rationalize how they now might switch over to Obama. Nobody wants to go down with a sinking ship. This shows Hillary's own supporters are seeing her campaign going down the tubes. Money problems are staggering and the Clinton camapign is known as a bunch of "deadbeats." Seems even the "fat cats" have wised up and stopped throwing money on a losing cause.

Obama 08

Jon Corzine is the Govenor of New Jersey not the Senator, get it right CNN.

"Corzine also suggested he himself may cast his superdelegate vote for Obama should Clinton fail to win the popular vote, though the New Jersey senator insisted he thought Clinton would come out on top in that count if the Florida and Michigan contests were counted."

This hurts.

Umm...Corzine is New Jersey's Governor not a Senator.

They must be worming their way out of their Hillary endorsement since the goal line is delegate count, no matter how Hillary tries to make people think otherwise.

WOW NELIE, AS WE USED SO SAY IN THE OLD DAYS.

THESE TWO JUST GAVE HER THE NEWS. AS THEY SAY THESE DAYS,

HOW COOL IS THAT.

What? Why would the democrats want to be democratic about electing their nominee? Screw the voters, give us Clinton!
Hilldog!!

To be fair, maybe we should eliminate two of the states that Obama won in also. This would give a clearer picture of the popular vote.

CNN writers need to check their facts.

Jon Corzine holds the position of Governor of New Jersey, he is not a senator, he is a former senator and now governor.

Yes according to the web site RealClearPolitics Obama is 717,086 votes
ahead but without Iowa, Washington and Maine that he has won.When you add those 3 states it's approximately 827,308 votes ahead
Good luck Hillary
It's not a thin challenge

That's cool!!! but she is a fighter, and let her fight!!!! You would be proud if she is our next president, and you will see Democrat loose the general Election if Obama is a democratic candidate. I am personally voting for McCain if it comes between McCain and Obama, atleast I know McCain loves my county (his country)

Popular vote; clearly an apples to oranges comparison exists due to the primary versus caucus process used to seat delegates. For instance; Obama won Washington and captured 53 or 68% of the delegates with a popular vote margin of 3 thousand votes, whereas Clinton won 31 or 55% of Arizona’s delegates with a voter margin of 33 thousand. Does this mean that Obama’s 78 two state delegate count compared to Clintons 56 is trumped by her 30 thousand vote lead? With Obama’s 308 to 167 caucus delegate advantage, this example is not an anomaly but the rule. Obama’s 1% delegate lead under the primary format is supported by popular vote advantage of 2%, but the popular vote advantage of 30% in the caucus format almost disappears when added to the larger primary vote tally. The caucus format should not be dismissed or distorted in the middle of the process. Please stop mixing apples (1 primary delegate on average = approximately 11,300 votes) and oranges (1 caucus delegate on average = approximately 1,200 votes).

The popular vote has been tainted by the Rush Limbaugh efforts. More than 250,000 votes were cast in Texas, Ohio and Mississippi as part of the "Operation Chaos" effort.

The popular vote is not a valid measure at this point.

It should be totally based on the popular vote as should the general election. Florida and Michigan should be allowed to
revote as it is wrong of the DNC to deny any citizen's vote to
be counted. Obama needs to stand up and request a revote
or he may simply steel this election. Not much to be proud of
there.

I am happy to see that the Delegates are not willing to loose the Presidency to spite Obama. Loyalty should be to the party and voters not to the Clintons.

Corzine is the Governor of NJ not a Senator (anymore). I'm not even from NJ and I know that.

How does an unpopular candidate win the popular vote?

I suggest she change her name to Mama of Obama Clinton

well, thats a fair and honest appraisal of the situation from these two. why don't we just leave it at that.

It is about time somebody woke up at 3am to tell Hillary she is not doing the right thing. At least not an Obama supporter this time but a Clinton supporter. Good job .

Are you kidding me?! How on earth can you factor in either state? Obama didn't campaign in either state and wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan.

I have an idea:

Let's take a state, any state, let's say California for this argument, take Hillary off the ballot there. Now, let's see what the popular vote totals are. According to the Clinton surrogates, this is completely reasonable logic...what a joke!

. . . ."but I think you need at least the popular vote". Corzine, you a trip.

YES WE CAN.
Obama 08.

CNN,

While Jon Corzine was once a senator from NJ, I think it is more accurate to describe him as the current governor of that state.

That said, I think that both he and Jack Murtha make a very reasonable argument. It's good to see that not all of Hillary's supporters are raging lunatics.

She must stop lyin' , cheatin' and stealin', too! Oh that's right, she's genetically predisposed to it! It's just comes so naturally ... it's the only authentic thing about her.

Jimmy Carter to endose Obama. Great Job, Carter!

It's good to see that common sense is starting to take hold among the Democratic Party elders. Enough with the emotional attachments. Hillary has ran a sub-standard campaign and deserves to remain in the U.S. senate as a result.

Until the issue of Michigan and Florida is resolved, this campaign is alive and well, regardless of outcome. The gaul of Dean and the DNC to disenfranchise millions in these 2 States! A slap on the wrists over a primary calendar debate, and two of the most influencial States in the Union are effectively taken out of the equation? This should be deemed not only illegal and unconstitutional, but grounds for Dean's immediate dismissal. The argument that candidates knew the situation going into primary season is irrelevant – THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CANDIDATES. IT IS ABOUT MUTING THE VOICES AND RIGHTS OF AMERICAN VOTERS IN THESE TWO STATES! Until their voices are counted, the democratic candidate race is effectively null and void. I am independent, but Hillary Clinton is spot-on with the her intention to pursue this to Colorado if necessary until the issue of Michigan and Florida is resolved. Apparently the only candidate willing to support the idea.

What this article didn't mention is that most of the votes BO has where obtained before we found out that he is a Liar, Racist, Anti-American with really poor judgment and no experience!

Hillary is the only viable candidate left!

Where BO the nominee we would be handing the White House to McCain!

We CANNOT win the GE with only half or even 2/3 of our number voting for our candidate.

Therefore, we must wait until the process is completed and every state is allowed to participate in order to make sure they don't feel alienated, and of course, because we are a DEMOCRACY, people. EVERYONE's vote must be counted!!!

With such a close race, the Clinton camp could just as easily call on Obama to step down "for the good of the party."

Jimmy Carter to endose Obama. Hillary, please stop giving the Republicans a reason to smile. GET OUT AND HELP OBAMA WIN IN NOVEMBER. HE WOULD DO IT FOR YOU!!! STOP BEING A SELFISH PIG!!!

The parties over, Hillary's key supporters are circling Obama. I've said it once and I'll say it again, Hillary will created her own demise for the nomination. It's hard to continue supporting Hillary when she, Bill and Chelsea constantly attack people. I'd say they pissed off a lot of important people and really it's too bad.

CORZINE DID NOT GET WHERE HE IS BY TAKING RISKS THAT HAD NO CHANCE OF PAYING OFF.

"Sigh"...Can the Clinton's not see the handwriting on the wall? They've thrown every dirty trick they can at Obama and still she sheds supporters on a daily basis. Pull the plug now so we can unify this party.

As "pawns" of the Clinton campaign machine they may be stalwarts but they can't change the game....Checkmate!

These gentlemen are already softening to what the enevitable will be.........I really think that the Pa voters need to end this thing. It really does not make sense to split donations between these candidates any longer. There's a real battle ahead in Nov folks..........its not a shoe- in by any means. Senator Clinton is not going to make it.............in Dec she had over $100 million Dollars in her coffers, She had most of the Major Democratic Support, She Had Huge Name Recognition. NOBODY even knew who Obama was.............if she was going to have won Folks it would have been during Super Tuesday. Since she has gone negative it has become even worse for her chances. I really think that the people of PA. need to end this thing so we can elect Obama in Nov..........

The writing on the wall is loud and clear Billary. You lost.

Only in the Clinton fantasy land that rules don't count unless it is favorable to her! All those votes in the "small" states didn't mean anything to her until now she is so far behind on everything and Hillary wants to count those illigimate votes! It's amazing how many people fell into her trap. Those bakboneless politicians have no guts to stand up for rules!

Hillary is such disgrace!

Why everyone has sullied their good names with Hillary Clinton, I will never understand.

Hillary supporters, at this point, your best bet is to change the rules and cheat??? Thats what your best bet is???

Dont you get it, you needed a better female candidate. The African American community put out the best it had and the womens movement put out Hillary Clinton....

Welcome to the future, I am sorry you didnt get any in high school and werent cool. The rest of us that "get it" are all aboard the Obama train to the future.

OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!

corzine and murtha do you still believe that clinton can make it ?
endorse obama .....

GO HILLARY!!!!!!

It will be difficult for Clinton to catch up in the popular vote, she will win PA in low single digits and after that without counting the popular vote in FL & MI their is little hope to gain on Obama.

And I agree with the Cintonites that claim Obama can't win, if they don't vote for him he can't. But the reverse is also true. Stop spinning everything so that it favors your candidate and start standing up for the Democratic party. The GOP is going to make this ugly and we all need to stay strong, believe and fight for our parties candidate regardless of who that is.

she have to win 56% on the remain 10 tests! that is really impossible! she have to win 65% in order to close the delegate gap (167) ! THAT IS ABOSULETLY IMPOSSIBLE!

Your right......but she WILL win the Popular Vote....and the dems will not take this one away from her like they took it from Gore.......

flip flop

If Clinton wins Pennsylvania by 11% she would get an 89-69 split in the delegates and that would give Clinton 1162 and Obama 1158 delegates "elected" by the public vote in PRIMARY elections.

If people don't like superdelegates, they ought to hate caucus delegates because as we saw in Texas to don't represent the will of the voters in the election. In Texas those caucus delegate voted against how the public voted and stole that election.

. . . .It will be the the Delegate count that matters, even though Senator
Obama is leading also in popular votes.

Corzine is the Governor of NJ, not the Senator.

Well, he endorsed a year ago alot has changed.

My dad always said, Sweet Pea, you always have the right to change your mind. You may have to walk out the consequences for it, but be true to yourself. If the Clinton's don't understand that, tough.

Take Home Message:

1) She would STILL be behind if MI and FL were counted.

2) Rules are useless and Obama should be penalized for following them.

We all know Clinton's numbers drop when she campaigns in a state. Are we are supposed to hand her two give-me's in states that didn't get the midas touch of her winning personality and friednly campaign?

Who are they kidding. Clinton is in this through the end. They are going to have to pull her off the stage at the convention, she is not giving up. Get real people, you have already allowed her to go longer than you would have Obama if the numbers were refersed. So get real.

If the Dems think the Clintons are going to go easy, you better think again.

Superdelegates better start making up their minds now, because she is hurting the party. I thought I would have voted for her, but not with the things that have come out to remind me of all the grud during the Clintons era, the high handed attitudes they all have. Give me a BREAK.

Great ..!!! Say it to Hillary and Bill. They need to be realistic.

Looks to me like the wheels are falling off the Clinton kitchen-sink campaign pretty fast.

Wow, they're finally acknowledging that more people want Obama over Hillary. One small step for Superdelegates, one GIANT LEAP for America!

I agree, however, even with maybe eeking out a popular win.. it's all about the delegates as everyone has said. But you know, lets keep moving that goal line. What was it, super tuesday the first time, then it was Texas and Ohio followed by Pennsylvania and now its "oh, well maybe the popular vote." Maybe it will end up being a bowl off since that's the only way she might be able to beat Obama.

Enough with Florida and Michigan already!

Never mind that Florida hasn't been a Dem friend in the past two elections...

Please...take a brief look at what Obama has been able to do in EVERY state he's had an opportunity to campaign...on average, he rises 15 points or so...EVERYwhere he goes with gusto. Can any of us really, honestly claim that a fair fight was waged in states that were penalized by moving their primaries up?

To "claim" that the votes ALL CANDIDATES agreed would not count...somehow SHOULD count now...is laughable.

And to call the standing results in Fl and MI as "real" is even more absurd. Get over it already. All candidates agreed to this bad arrangement...but only one candidate is crying about it now that she desperately NEEDS the votes she discounted at the beginning of the process.

How could you "include" the Michigan and Florida results when they are patently invalid? Obama followed the rules by not campaigning in Florida, whereas Clinton appeared there twice immediately prior to the election. Moreover, Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan because the DNC said the election would not be recognized. Under these circumstances it is ridiculous to suggest it would be fair to include the results of those tainted elections.

I could not say it better, "I think it would be a very hard argument to make," Corzine said of that position. "I'm a very aggressive supporter of Senator Clinton, but I think you need at least a popular vote." though I no longer support her because she went to negative. I'm not just saying it; I used to LOVE her so much. Now it's my mother who still love her and that's because she always love Bill Clinton.

I am glad to finally start hearing some logic from some Clinton supporters. If she loses the popular vote and try to get super delegates to go behind her she has no chance and also would be a major flip flop once again on her part after being so loud and out spoken that every vote must count and then turn around and make a argument that the party leaders should turn over the will of the voters. I am glad thought to her that some of her supporters are after all good democrats not just a bunch of loud, rude, disrespectful lune's.

Go Obama 08

Latest PA poll (see pollster.com) shows Obama ahead of Clinton, 45 to 43.

Uh oh!!!!!! So that means her "electability" argument and her "big state" argument are now both dead in the water. And since she can't possibly catch up in pledged delegates or states won, that leaves the popular vote as her ONLY path to victory.

And bad news for Hillary? Seating the FL and MI delegates does NOT mean that their popular votes will be considered. Those are out. Gone. Forget it. Which means she has to make up a 800,000 vote deficit in the remaining states!

Impossible..... Not. Gonna. Happen.

White Chicks for OBAMA!

I COULD UNDERSTAND, BUT IN NO WAY SUPPORT, ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF SEATING FLORIDA DELEGATES BASING ON THE INVALID JANUARY PRIMARY.

But to seat the delegates of Michigan, where no meaningful opposition existed induced by the DNC penalties and where 40%
(in addition of the probably more which simply not voted) TOOK THE
TIME TO GO TO VOTE TO FACTUALLY REPUDIATE HILLARY'S
PROCEDURE, CAN ONLY BE CONSIDERED A "FOOLS JOKE"

ALBO

The main problem for Mrs. Clinton is not convincing the so called superdelegates. Her main problem is convincing the regular voters. Mr. McCain can make her part of the history as easily as Mr. Regan did it to her fundraiser, Ms. Ferrero.

Superdelegates should look to a variety of factors including the popular vote but the deciding factor should be which candidate has the best chance of beating John McCain. Although the polls presently show this to be a toss up, I think that as we get closer to election day that the public will be thinking more about political and government experience which should favor Hillary Clinton.

Well, If the Women, want a Woman in the White House...
I suggest they adopt more control of their lives.. The Woman keep saying, "what's in this for me"?... Then they either take a back seat.
Or have the Man Folk, tell them what to do...
COME ON YOU WOMEN!!! SHE NEEDS YOU.......

I hear the Voices of Reason! Obama all the way! Si se puede!

"If the results of Michigan and Florida . . . are factored in, the gap is approximately half that."

It's real simple...

OBAMA WASN"T ON THE MICHIGAN BALLOT!

Sue she does if you let everyone VOTE!
If you do not have votes for FL and MI counted this whole primary is criminal. I accuse you all of voter fraud here and now. If you can't manipulate this with super delegates now you want to do it with popular vote when you do not have EVERY ONES VOTE!
MADNESS!
She can beat McCain and OBAMA can not, simple as that!

America get ready...the next President of the United States will be Senator Barack Obama....get over it and govern yourselves accordingly!

Too bad Hilster maybe next time....try again in lets say 8 years!!

Interesting- even if Florida and Michigan's rule-breaking primary votes are counted, Hillary Clinton is still behind.

She has no chance- she's bitterly playing the role of Tonya Harding.

Without Michigan and Florida Re-vote

It's not possible

Hillary supporters are having voters remorse

This is just another Clinton media strategy.

Get the media to buy-in that the popular vote is the new goalpost- then go for that new goalpost alone.

Once you have obtained it, no one can argue against the fact that you got it by conniving to bring in two uncontested states, plus losing the pledged delegates, plus losing 20% leads in virtually every state in the nation to an unknown contender.

Problem is, her tricks always work on the media.

Corzine – we welcome your defection any time!

Best of luck to all dems whoever you support – let's remember that both of our candidates have very similar plans, and that 4 more years of McBush is NOT going to fix the country's problems.

I'm a republican, and I can only imagine how sick and tired the democrats are of continuing this race. I'm even sick of it!!

Hillary won't win, that's what all her backers are trying to tell her! She is now becoming just a glorified Mike Huckabee who will depend on miracles to make the numbers work!

Can you state three reasons why you support Hillary Clinton. The reasons can not contain the following three words: Experience, Solutions or Female.

1_____________________
2_____________________
3_____________________

Just what I thought. Go OBAMA!

Wise remarks!

Ive always thought that. Since neither is going to hit the 2024.

It's about time some Clinton supporters started making intelligent statements.