April 3rd, 2008
04:32 PM ET
3 years ago

Clinton backers: She must win popular vote

 Corzine and Murtha are supporters of Clinton.
Corzine and Murtha are supporters of Clinton.

(CNN) - Two prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton suggested Thursday the New York senator needs to best rival Barack Obama in the total popular vote to have any chance at winning her party's presidential nomination.

In separate media interviews, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine and Pennsylvania Rep. Jack Murtha both indicated they believed Clinton will be unable to convince enough superdelegates to support her if she finishes second to Obama in both the pledged delegate count and the popular vote.

Speaking on CNBC, Corzine suggested it won't be enough for Clinton to argue she deserves the nomination because she has won more crucial swing states than Obama - a talking point the senator's campaign has long argued.

"I think it would be a very hard argument to make," Corzine said of that position. "I'm a very aggressive supporter of Senator Clinton, but I think you need at least a popular vote."

Corzine also suggested he himself may cast his superdelegate vote for Obama should Clinton fail to win the popular vote, though the New Jersey governor insisted he thought Clinton would come out on top in that count if the Florida and Michigan contests were counted.

Murtha echoed Corzine's sentiments in an interview later Thursday, saying, "Clinton has to win Pennsylvania…She has to be ahead in the popular vote to have any chance at all of getting this nomination."

Clinton is heavily favored to win in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, though recent polls suggest Obama may be narrowing the gap there.

Most estimates currently have Obama leading Clinton by approximately 700,000 votes in the popular vote. If the results of Michigan and Florida — the two states that were penalized for moving up its primary — are factored in, the gap is approximately half that.

Re-vote efforts in both states failed last month and it appears highly unlikely the results of either of the earlier contests will stand, meaning Clinton will need to achieve decisive wins in several of the 10 remaining primary contest to have a chance at overtaking Obama in the popular vote count.

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

soundoff (390 Responses)
  1. Blind Leading the Blind

    Crooks sure do flock together alright with the Clinton Campaign.

    This guy Murtha was the guy who was ready to accept a bribe in a setup run by the F.B.I.

    He had a good conscience to expect he was being setup and backed off.

    Murtha is a corrupt politician. No wonder he is backing Clinton.

    April 3, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  2. coco

    Yeah "Obama08" tell her to 'stop being a selfish pig'......lol, that was funny. Seriously Hillary needs to admit that we just have a better option for president and Americans want president Barack Obama. We've been waiting a long time for the man!

    April 3, 2008 05:32 pm at 5:32 pm |
  3. Austin 4 Hillary

    Shirley, Sillicon Valley, CA:

    Why is Hillary a disgrace? It enrages all of you is that you cannot get her out of the picture, What are you really afraid of? If you have so much confidence that your candidate will win–then what are you worried about? You all are nothing but bullies. Your verbal behavior is very hostile. Read your comments. Leave her alone. You should be focusing on Hope and Unity–isn't that what you and your candidate talk about. What about his damage control speech? Talk about double standards. HC has every right to stay in and work for the job she wants. But all this talk is typical of Obama supporters the politicians and non-politicians and the pundits. Bullies usually are envious and resentful. You all fit the definition well!

    I'll ask again–what are you all really afraid of?

    April 3, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  4. Trent Lamb

    I just saw how much money that Obama & Clinton has made in March. Has this become a race to see how much money that a candidate can spend during their campaign. I was wonderng Just how much that both of these candidates have spent as to date. I will vote for the one who has spent the least amount of money. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a campaign is ridiculous when there are so many peolpe that could use this. Is this what this country has come to, who can and spend the most during their Presidential campaign. Its no wonder that other countries see us as a self centered country. God Help Us.

    April 3, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  5. elis

    I am sure those two are as corrupt as the Clintons. There is no other excuse for backing criminals.

    April 3, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  6. Rodney King

    CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET ALONG!

    April 3, 2008 05:33 pm at 5:33 pm |
  7. Raoul

    Hummm, just wondering if Hill will endorse Obama if he become the nominee!

    April 3, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  8. Obama Richardson

    Very interesting. At least these men are honest. Wonder what the Clinton's will do about the one who said he may vote for Obama instead?

    I am dismayed that there is still talk about IF FL and MI are counted. Although they may all find a way to seat their delegates at the convention, the original primaries canNOT be counted. There was no campaigning and Obama wasn't even on one of the tickets. Dream on.

    April 3, 2008 05:34 pm at 5:34 pm |
  9. jf

    Obama can't win this. So far a biased media has been able hide most of his sins. But I guarantee you that the Republicans are going to fry this guy. And, rightly they should. You can't put a "spin" artist in the White House. Infatuation is a wonderful thing, but it doesn't solve problems the likes of what we are facing. The one good thing is that if this guy somehow manages to get into office, it will be so bad that people hopefully will never be this stupid again.

    April 3, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  10. Ann

    So the way that you are treating Hilary and her supporters (because we are dumb) we are just going to vote Obama in November..everything all sweet and neat.

    In the beginning I did not care who won the Democratic, anyone would be better than a Republician. I still feel that way but I don't like how Hilary is being treated by Obama and Obama supporters. I may just stay home in November.

    April 3, 2008 05:35 pm at 5:35 pm |
  11. Frances M

    the reason that Obama wasn't on the Michigan ballot is because he excercised poor judgement. If should have known that Michigan and Florida are important factors in the democrats winning the election in November and they are not going to discount their votes so he should have had the foresight to put his name on ballot in the event the race was close.

    April 3, 2008 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  12. whites.dudes.4.obama08

    holdn second americans ppls whats going on ? my question

    why hilarrys keep said obana cannot win in general election ?

    why hilarry cannot win rigth now ? in this primary ? i means ?

    we r dumb anymore this is 2008 ! nomore royaly familys in our house bush clinton bush clinton for 28 years no this years obama -macain 08

    April 3, 2008 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  13. debra

    Three reasons I support Hillary Clinton.
    1. Her Health care plan is better than Obamas
    2. She has a plan to fund innovation into new forms of energy.
    3. Even if she doesn't always make right decisions the first time like Obama claims he would, she works to fix the bugs in it. No ones perfect- everyone makes mistakes- even Obama. She is a fighter and stands up for what she believes is the right thing to do.
    4. She will end this war
    5. She will put people back to work and fix NAFTA.
    Shall I go on?

    April 3, 2008 05:38 pm at 5:38 pm |
  14. California Voter

    To Kenneth Woodard: Can you state ANY reasons why Obama deserves the nomination? (pretty words can't be one of them)

    April 3, 2008 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  15. Sara from Arizona

    Setting the stage for voter fraud, if she does mnot win the popular vote. Obama 08'

    April 3, 2008 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  16. Mike in Sac

    So, basically, are these superdelegates starting to acknowledge that they may not have Hillary as the winner of this primary? Seems this is the first step away from the kitchen sink and towards Party unity.

    April 3, 2008 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  17. Go Home Hillary

    How can she win the popular vote, when she's not popular. Nobody in their right mind likes her.

    April 3, 2008 05:40 pm at 5:40 pm |
  18. David, it's still snowing in Des Moines

    Let us unite around Barack Obama!

    I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

    I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

    We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

    Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
    Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

    A true Democrat
    & Obama supporter

    Vote: OBAMA 2008

    April 3, 2008 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  19. suresh

    Chuck;

    Your calculator needs new batteries. obama is ahead of Hillary by 130 pledged delegates. If you give Hillary 89 and Obama 69 delegates from PA, he is still ahead. How come you come with Hillary getting ahaead?

    April 3, 2008 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  20. RFB

    Can you name three reasons why you would vote for obama?
    It can't include He speaks good, Looks good in a suit (not), Lies Lies Lies. Anything else does not apply to him!!!

    April 3, 2008 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  21. C Watson

    The 700,000 lead commonly referenced in the media is leading as states like IA, NV, ME, WA have not been included with finalized totals yet so the popular vote hole is current bigger and around 827,000 according to RealClearPolitics.

    She’s simply too far behind in pledged delegates to catch Obama there. She’s has to win all the remaining states by much bigger margins than she’s been able to do in any of the forty or so previous contests aside from Arkansas.

    Her only realistic chance to keep her hopes alive for the popular vote is a good knee capping before PA (like she did in Ohio & Texas). That’s what I expect she’ll try. Right now with Obama so close in PA, that may have to come sooner rather than later.

    It is Hillary's MO so we'll see some fireworks in the next couple of weeks.

    April 3, 2008 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  22. Lin

    Without the super-biased caucuses, Mr. Obama would have dropped the race even before John Edwards. Obama, could you please come up and explain how your people cheated during the Texas caucuses by locking Clinton supporters out of the caucus sites? I'd vote for McCain if you get the nomination, he maintains his descency during the campaign at least.

    April 3, 2008 05:41 pm at 5:41 pm |
  23. David, it's still snowing in Des Moines

    I want to thank the Clinton supporters for a job well done.

    I would like to add that your support for Mrs. Clinton has been unwavering but the time has come for you to come on home.

    We will leave the light on for you and our door is always open.

    Please let us unite and defeat the repugnant's in Nov.
    Best wishes and we look foward to working with you very soon.

    A true Democrat
    & Obama supporter

    Vote: OBAMA 2008

    April 3, 2008 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  24. Olga

    it should be "beat" not "best"
    (CNN) — Two prominent supporters of Hillary Clinton suggested Thursday the New York senator needs to best rival Barack Obama in the total popular vote to have any chance at winning her party's presidential nomination.

    April 3, 2008 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  25. Mike

    You Clinton supporters are completely out of your minds. You live in a fantasy and you are supporting a lying manipulative fraud, just like the one we currently have in the White House. If you can't see the writing on the wall now then nothing can help you. Denial is such a powerful thing.

    April 3, 2008 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
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