April 4th, 2008
03:32 PM ET
6 years ago

DNC returns funds to upset Florida donors

(CNN) – A Democratic National Committee spokeswoman confirms to CNN that the party has returned $45,000 to three Florida donors unhappy with the continuing uncertainty over the seating of that state's delegation at the party's presidential nominating convention this summer.

The move follows reports that some major Democratic donors from Florida and Michigan - the two states penalized by the party for moving their presidential primary votes to January - would look to have their donations returned if full delegations were not seated at the convention in Denver, or new votes held that would abide by DNC rules.

This week, Howard Dean met with Florida's Democratic congressional delegation and party leaders, and released joint statements with that group and with the Michigan committee looking to craft a resolution of the controversy in that state. Democratic state party leaders in both Florida and Michigan have announced that new votes are not logistically possible.


Filed under: DNC • Florida • Michigan
soundoff (188 Responses)
  1. Jackie

    They should get over it. Donations don't entitle them to change the rules. Howard Dean may be a screamer himself, but he is smart and he is right to impose some discipline on a rowdy crowd.

    April 4, 2008 06:00 pm at 6:00 pm |
  2. debra

    Seems to me like the 45,000.00 would have paid for another revote. Did the DNC get greedy?

    April 4, 2008 06:01 pm at 6:01 pm |
  3. Ben

    Dont tell Chelsea cause she'll only tell you "its none of your business"!

    April 4, 2008 06:02 pm at 6:02 pm |
  4. D McKee

    How can you call the USA a Democracy when tax payers are denied the basic right abd privelege of having their vote count?

    April 4, 2008 06:07 pm at 6:07 pm |
  5. Jann Whiner

    Why does Obama only want to be president of 48 of the 50 states?

    Can anyone really consider him the legitimate choice to lead the Dems if he lost NY, NJ, CA, OH, PA, MI, FL and TX?

    This guy is supposed to the uniter, but he wants to deprive those states who won't vote for him for being represented.

    Just another politician.

    April 4, 2008 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  6. CHERYL

    WHAT A NIGHTMARE!!!!!!

    NO MATTER WHAT DEAL WAS MADE IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!

    I THINK THAT IT IS BULL! WE NEED TO SUE!!!!!

    OBAMA IS BLOCKING OUR VOTES BY NOT AGREEING TO A DEAL!!!!

    I CANNOT STAND THIS LYING MAN!!!!!!!

    WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE?

    VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!

    April 4, 2008 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  7. Confused 5th Grader

    This is my question to Hillary Clinton...

    There are rules, 48 states follow those rules, you agreed to those rules. When the states that didn't follow the rules still went on with their primary elections, you said "you know that they are not going to count so you didn't think it would matter if your name remained on the ballot".

    Then fast forward a few months, when Clinton is behind and can't catch up, and now all of a sudden the votes should count. And she "won" those states. But I don't understand, weren't there rules? Didn't you agree to the rules? Didn't they break the rules? Didn't you say that it was clear that those votes weren't going to count?

    And I'm sorry, perhaps I don't understand this correctly, but is it true that now you want to seat the delegates according to the votes that were cast illegally? Is it true that you don't feel that it matters that none of the candidates campaigned there? And that you should "win" those states? But if campaigning doesn't matter what is the point of all the campaigning you've been doing? All of the money you've been spending campaigning? Clearly, as former first lady you were well known, hell the media had practically anointed you as the democratic nominee before the race had barely started! So how is it a fair vote if Sen Obama was not able to campaign and let people hear his message and get to know him? You keep telling everyone that Sen Obama wants to disenfranchise Florida and Micihgan. But he said he would agree to whatever the DNC agreed to and whatever was fair. Is it fair to hold an election in a state that normally has an open primary now, that many people voted in the Republican primary and can't vote in the Democratic one? Do you feel that this is fair? Why wasn't this an issue until you knew you were so far behind and couldn't catch up? My friends and I don't understand, so can you explain it to us?

    A 5th grader

    April 4, 2008 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  8. Bdiddy

    Florida and Michigan should give it up. You break the rules how dare you demand to be seated. It's simple. These were not just voted on rules, these rules were agreed to by every candidate last year.

    No one had a problem then, why is it a problem now. Oh Because Hillary has $109million reasons to say it's a problem right......

    I tell ya Hillary Has learned from the Republicans hasn't she....

    April 4, 2008 06:11 pm at 6:11 pm |
  9. Joflorida

    Remember Natalie Maines song that upset so many people about George Bush. Well, she was right on and was the only one to tell the truth. The group suffered, but I was very proud of them.

    HEY DNC I JUST HEARD THAT OBAMA WON FLORIDA. NOW HURRY UP AND GET THOSE DELEGATES SEATED BECAUSE HE AND ALL HIS CLOUT WILL BE MAD AT YOU AND WE ALL KNOW THAT HAD HE REALLY WON THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SEATED RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTION!!! It is disgusting to me that he is such an opportunist and you are all fooled into thinking that the racial card he is playing is not happening. I guess you do want McCain to win. My patience is running out as I see the mistreatment of Hillary and the Royalty treatment of "Teflon Obama". When he needs to he can just make another speech promoting "greater understanding of the Blacks". He is using the blacks just as he is using the whites. By the way why doesn't anyone mention his Stepfather? Didn't he help raise him? Why does he say he was raised by a white mother and grandmother to insinuate another untruth. I don't take money from Oil and Gas companies -no just from the CEO's. So he is a new breed of campaigners, huh? By the way I amgoing to tell you that Obama did not win Florida but you already know that because the delegates are not seated. You might think I am angry and you will be right!!

    April 4, 2008 06:12 pm at 6:12 pm |
  10. Molly

    COUNT THE VOTES!!!!
    This election will not be valid if they do not count FL & MI.
    ALL Democrats need to stand up for this. This will cost the DNC the election in November – they caused the problems. Get this fixed!

    April 4, 2008 06:14 pm at 6:14 pm |
  11. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Smart move by the DNC to return funds back to donors and not compromise a trade off.

    April 4, 2008 06:14 pm at 6:14 pm |
  12. CHERYL

    IVE GOT NEWS FOR THE MAN!!!!!!!

    OBAMA WILL NEVER WIN THE STATES THAT HILLARY DID!!!!!!

    IF THEY WANTED HIM HE WOULD HAVE WON THEM!!!!!!

    IF HE MAKES NOMINEE HE WILL BE SWIFT BOATED OUT SO FAST WITH ALL HIS SCANDAL AND LIES!!!!!

    IF YOU TRULY ARE A DEMOCRAT YOU WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE CAN WIN!!!!!!

    OBAMA CAN GO PREACH AT WRIGHTS CHURCH!!!!!!!

    I SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!!! 2009!!!!!!!

    April 4, 2008 06:15 pm at 6:15 pm |
  13. CHERYL

    IT IS ONLY A MATTER IOF TIME UNTIL MORE SCANDAL COMES OUT ON OBAMA !!THE REZKO TRIAL IS UNDER WAY!!!!!

    THERE ARE OTHER THINGS AS WELL!!!!!!

    I CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!!

    GO HILLARY!!!!!!!!

    April 4, 2008 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  14. Chuck in Oregon

    Please people this has nothing to do with Hillary or Obama. This is the DNC vs Florida and Michigan. For those that are oblivious to the news, Obama has continuously stated, what ever the states come up with that the DNC approves is fine by him. He does not have the power or clout to stop a FL OR MI vote. As for Hillary neither state was her's, for had the original primaries been left in place; those two states would more than likely tied or gone to Obama with a very slight margin (dont forget Obama was on a roll when they should have voted). The only people that are to blame is the leadership of those two states and I would be very surprised if they are in office after their terms expire.

    April 4, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  15. Joelle, Racine, WI

    The DNC should give ALL the contributions back to the people in MI & FL; they are only going to scew them and the election at the convention anyway!

    April 4, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  16. Doreen

    Obama should drop out. He's damaging the democratic party with all his scandals which CNN and MSNBC keep suppressing from the voters. Also Obama and his henchmen are the ones who have been disenfranchising the voters in both Michigan and Florida. Hillary has won the important big states and swing states. Obama has won mostly in the red Republican states that the Republicans will win anyway in November.

    April 4, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  17. CHERYL

    HEY GRIF,

    ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LAUNDERED SAUDI MONEY THAT OBAMA DID WITH REZKO?

    WHY ISN'T THIS IN THE PRESS???

    IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME!!!!

    April 4, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  18. Debra

    With respect to the Democratic campaign these two points should be considered:
    1) RAMPANT SEXISM: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid!
    2) FRAUDLENT ELECTIONS: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham!

    April 4, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  19. Pooh496

    Let my people go!!!!!!! Everyone has the right to vote. No matter what.

    April 4, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  20. Well, OK then...

    DNC, thanks for returning the 45K to the Florida voters who are whining about not getting to vote. Last month Hillary collected 20 million in campaign contributions. Obama collected 40 million.
    When you think about the money at stake here, 45K makes NO difference what so ever. So a few wealthy contributors got their money back. Big deal. What about the little people that gave 20 or 50 bucks? What did they get? Zilch.

    If Hillary REALLY cares about these voters, I'm surprised she doesn't throw a little financial love their way. At 109 million last year in income, it sure seems like she could afford it, and it would make her look a great deal less petty and self-centered.

    April 4, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  21. Linda of Atlanta

    Good for the DNC! The Presidency of the United States is not up for sale to the highest bidders.

    April 4, 2008 06:20 pm at 6:20 pm |
  22. Now release earmark spending records!

    News media needs to get a grip on reality concerning this election. Barack Obama no doubt has the edge on the overall primary election, and with numerous "superdelegate" endorsements here recently he is by far in the lead nationally.

    I understand hot the GOP wants Hillary to have a chance because she is a much easier opponent against John McCain, but let's get real here-Hillary's done – stick a fork in her!

    She'll most likely win Pennsylvania, but the Obama camp is expecting her to do well there.

    The people are choosing change over corruption. Hillary representing the latter.

    I think the media would be best served if they reported about Hillary Clinton's upcoming campaign fraud trial regarding Peter Paul and Stan Lee media this upcoming August.

    Surely a presidential candidate in Hillary Clinton who has an upcoming fraud trial in August is a much bigger story than the reverend Wright story, which has gotten far too much coverage in the media.

    April 4, 2008 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  23. Kemic - Houston, Texas

    The rules were established well in advance. All interested parties agreed. Clinton was blind-sided by Obama and is now the underdog. So, she says the DNC and Obama are disenfranchising voters. Maybe it was the FLA and MI legislatures that are disenfranchising voters. Clinton feels she is entitled and uses the stupidity of American people. By framing the argument in a way that seems she's coming to the rescue of all those poor people who took the time out to vote, Clinton has once again shown her crafty, yet over-used and out-dated ability to "spin" for personal gain.

    She's even brazen enough to make fun of LYING about bsing under sniper fire. The arrogance is disgusting!

    April 4, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  24. John - Maryland

    Heard Clinton wants to appoint a "poverty Czar". What another gimmick to get elected or endorsed by John edwards....John...do not listen to this woman. First we had a "drug czar" – Whatever happened to drungs today....More people in Jail...more people in rehab....sheeeeesh!!!! for christ sake. Hillaryy drop it. Just concede and let's support the presumtive nominee........

    OBAMANATION

    April 4, 2008 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  25. Washington, DC

    I am glad comments are not closed. Here it is fair and simple. There are rules in life and everyone knew what the rules were. The candidates should NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT to do revoting. THE STATES MADE THE JUDGEMENT AND IT'S THE STATES RESPONSIBILITY PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKE AND LIVE WITH CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR MISTAKE. The voters of Florida have no right to accuse the candidates or the DNC for their votes not being counted. THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BLAME THEIR STATE OFFICIALS AND REPRESENTATIVES for making these rules. If Clinton wants to go on and on and on and on about how Obama doesn't want people's vote to count, she can but the knowledge and understanding that ONCE AGAIN she's playing DIRTY POLITICS because smart people know the rules and play by the rules.

    FINALLY, the people of Florida's votes don't count (sadly) but they don't vote and the candidates knew they wouldn't and those are the rules. You can't change the rules you agreed to abide by just because you now wants the votes to count.

    April 4, 2008 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
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