April 4th, 2008
02:05 PM ET
10 years ago

Michigan Dems rule out new vote

Michigan voters participated in the states primary on January 15.

Michigan voters participated in the states primary on January 15.

(CNN) - Michigan Democrats will not to go to the polls again to choose a presidential nominee, even though the national party has refused to recognize the results of their vote in January, the party announced Friday.

"We have concluded that it is not practical to conduct such a primary or caucus," the state party's executive committee said in a written statement. But they added they will continue to work with the Democratic National Committee and elected officials to ensure that the state is represented at the party convention in Denver this August.

Michigan Democrats held their primary earlier than national party rules allowed. The Democratic Party responded by refusing to seat Michigan’s delegates at the convention.

Many Democratic candidates, including Sen. Barack Obama, removed their names from the Michigan ballot after the DNC’s decision, leaving Sen. Hillary Clinton as the only major contender in the state.

Clinton got 55 percent, while 40 percent of the state's voters opted for "uncommitted.”

Clinton said Friday the party had to find a way to avoid “disenfranchising” 600,000 Michigan voters. “Those votes have been cast…. So the Democratic party is going to have to come to grips with whether or not we want to be like the Republicans and disenfranchise people or whether we will stay true to the voting-rights record of this party.”

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  1. Kentucky

    Funny how the DNC is barring Michigan and Florida from counting their votes, yet New Hampshire and Puerto Rico are not penalized for changing their rules and dates.
    The Party will pay dearly if they do not allow these two states to be repesented. I never want to hear democrats cry about 2000 and the Gore-Bush race we do not count Florida and Michigan this year.

    April 4, 2008 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  2. simon

    Didn't South Carolina moved up their primary date as well? How come they didn't get penalized?

    April 4, 2008 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  3. Joe T.

    Good for Michigan. The people of Michigan and Florida were represented by politicians they elected. Those politicians chose to disregard the rules of the party. The people of those states should take their ire out on their own elected officials. Clinton really has a problem though. Forty percent of Michigan's voters would rather have no one than her. She and the other candidates agreed at the outset of the primaries that the results would not count. Hold her to her word. She certainly cannot do it on her own.

    April 4, 2008 02:54 pm at 2:54 pm |
  4. Andrew, Chicago

    I don't think it was inappropriate for Michigan and Florida to challange rules that give two tiny states an unfair advantage in picking our next presidents. Their voices should be heard. I don't think either candidate can use the "will of the people" argument to sway the superdelegate votes at this point.

    April 4, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  5. illinoisguy

    Typical Hillary, all talk, or should I say double talk. We can't disenfranchise the Michigan and Florida voters but we want to disenfranchise the entire rest of the country by having the superdelegates vote for the candidate who is losing in total votes, states won, and pledged delegates. Nice, real nice.

    April 4, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  6. Michael in Charlotte

    wow it's funny how people are spinning the facts to blame the candidates. This is crazy. it is plain and simple and we teach our children to understand if you break the rules then you have to abide with the punishment. The rules was broken before the vote ALL the candidates knew this, the voters knew this. Plain and simple. The people blaming the candidates are just showing their ignorance to logic.

    April 4, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  7. Pexster

    This really drives home the reason Bush got elected twice. It's because there are so many MORONS in our country. My God, it's depressing to read so many idiotic and illogical comments here!

    April 4, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  8. Tyler Rebalkin

    How Obama will win
    Play the cnn delegate counter game
    Give clinton the win – 59 to 41 percent in Penn
    Give clinton the win – 60 – 40 with the remaining superdelegates
    Split the rest down the middle 50 50
    Obama stills wins the nomination with 2028 delegates
    to clintons 1989

    April 4, 2008 02:55 pm at 2:55 pm |
  9. Teresa

    Rules are rules Hillary. Michigan Democrats thought that they were going to pull a fast one and got caught cheating for you. Your not getting those votes. Hillary it time to get behind Obama for president nomination.

    But you won't. Instead you'll contest and encourage the Clinton supports to vote for McCain instead so that you Obama won't get the chance to be president.

    April 4, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  10. Debra

    I am getting tired of Clinton supporters thinking that she alone is owed any votes from Michigan and FL. She was the only one on the ballot in Michigan and both states knew that there votes would not be counted. All democratic nom's signed off acknowledging such. This is all the Clinton spin/I am a victim campaign. She's ruthless alright, but not in a good way. I used to like the Clinton's until I saw what the prospect of power does to them. I truly question those that are supporting her. With Obama there is intellect, honesty and yes a thing called hope. With Hillary you get experience you get spin from that old political machine!!!!!!!

    April 4, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  11. Remi N.(Atlanta)

    Hillary supporters spend their time to cry like babies. Always , they cry about some. Don't you see Hillary's position, she supports something and later she is against or mispoken, .... not what she meant....., didn't knwo it was a question, All is fake, lies, ..lies,..., her husband Bill another lyer..., WHY DO YOU THINK WE NEED A PRESIDENT LIKE HER??? She said she knew that the delegates in Michigan and Florida won't count (before the vote),,, now she fights and wants the delegates to count.., She attacks a grown official man Bill Richardson for expressing his choice? now there is no such pledges delegates???? WHY DO YOU THINK WE NEED A PRESIDENT LIKE HER? no wonder she doesn't do good with educated folks.... Who wants a president who changes his mind in a mn depending of the audience and the moment? No More Distraction in the White House...You can hate Obama like you want to, He will be the next President.. and folks who want to vote for MCain because Hillary won't be the nominee, guess what, some of the Republicans will vote Obama cause they don't like Mcain. These Republicans will replace you guys, and at the end OBAMA will win, because America is ready for CHANGE.

    April 4, 2008 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  12. ron Stephenson

    Yeah, like were supposed to beliece that Hillary Clinton is concerned about disenfranchised voters. She only cares about one thing herself but I don't see how she can win this one.

    April 4, 2008 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  13. Ron

    Ok Obama supporters – let me spell it out to you why OBAMA bears some responsibility for the Michigan / Florida fiasco.
    He was dragging his feet on the issue, wasting time , not being proactive toward another vote because it would not benefit him. He just stood idle – just like he stood idle all those years his pastor made anti-American remarks. He was idle then because the presidency was a far off dream – not in his interest to do anything. Just as he was / is idle about the revotes not in his interest. He is, contrary to all you "cultist" , just another politician looking out for himself. He is willing to sacrifice Florida and Michigan just to be the nominee – and in doing so will sarifice the DEMS because he will lose to McCain in those states. Much the same HC is willing to sacrifice the DEM party in going to the convention. Get real – OBAMA has not come down from the heavens to save you all – he is a hack politician – much like and even more like most.
    Be careful what you wish for – you just might get it.

    April 4, 2008 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  14. Justin in CA

    Thank you Michigan. It is the right thing to do. You will still be there for the big dance.

    April 4, 2008 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  15. Cyp

    Hillary for President yes I said HILLARY for PRESIDENT.

    You will have the majority of your supporters voting for you.
    Plus Michigan and Florida.

    Obama and Mc Cain can fight for the CHANGE !

    April 4, 2008 02:57 pm at 2:57 pm |
  16. Mary

    Maybe we could go back and re-do all the States. I would like to change my vote from Hillary Clinton to Obama.

    April 4, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  17. toejam houston texas

    Then let the Delegates run its course and should be able to vote on who they want, Not dictated by caucases.

    April 4, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  18. Joel King

    They can seat Michigan and Florida if they want it does not matter. WE DO NOT WANT BILLARY AS OUT NOMINEE!!!! LET'S DO THE WHOLE ELECTION AGAIN IT WILL BE A LANDSLIDE FOR OBAMA!

    April 4, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  19. Oregon is Obama

    From this point the best way to deal with this is ; strip the super delegates , take away 1/2 the state delegates............split the remaining 1/2 of the delegates equally and seat them.

    Do the same with Florida.

    These two states broke the rule "period" , so they can clearly not be rewarded for breaking them rules.

    Take away there supers and half there delegates , split them equally and give them a seat at the table. DONE DEAL

    April 4, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  20. SaintSteven

    The only way Mi. & Fl. should be seated (and they should not be) is if the vote is split 50/50. Both states broke the rules and should not be seated at all. This is not Obama or Clintons fault. The elected officials in both states should be held accountable to the voters in the next state elections.

    For what its worth both Mich & Fla. will get to vote in Nov. and they will count. No where is it stated that anyone has a right to vote in a primary election. Your state leaders screwed you, Blame them, not the candidates. As for the idiots that say they will vote Republican or not at all if these two states are not counted in the primary result....deserve what they get.

    April 4, 2008 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  21. Asian

    It is like on the record "Yes, the delegates will be seated, every vote counts." Behind the door, "Don't revote. don't count." Someone word does not match with action. Where in the world you let this mess to happen? Why not DNC stopped the voting by going to the court? Why not do a re-vote? Some people say, it is expensive and who is going to bear the cost. Give people a break! You can raise several millions a day and cannot raise money for re-vote.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  22. amyo

    Hillary had no issue with this when she was ahead. Funny how the rules have changed for her. The rules were clearly stated and there was no whine fest when they were. Those delegates had better be divided equally. It's the only fair way to do it.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  23. TJ

    Clinton replying to this post:
    "Bye Bye Love, Bye Bye Happiness
    Hello loneliness, I feel I am gonna Cry"

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  24. Eric-PA

    You Obama people are incredibly mis-informed and ignorant. This is a bad thing if Obama gets the nomination. Think of all the Clinton supporters who voted for her even knowing the vote wouldn't count. Do you really think they are going to forgive the Dems for this and magically unite behind Obama. lol. I'm from PA and I'm not even going to vote for Obama because of this. He will likely lose MI and FL because of this and the Dems will lose the election. So, I wouldn't be too excited about this result.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  25. Sandra, IL

    Way to go MP. Those are the issues. In case the rest of you missed it I will paste it here:

    Everyone needs to take a step back. To both supporters. You would really give this country four more years of Bush just to spite the other canidate? Thats great. I love this war in Iraq, I love these gas prices, I love being dead last in the world when it comes to education. I love losing my house through no fault of my own and have McCain tell t me to deal with it. I love the tax breaks the richest people in country get. I love seeing all our jobs go to India. I love that people in New Orleans still don't have homes. Please vote for McCain and I will love you too.

    Let's talk about what is really important, and believe me this is not it. People are dying; get real and talk about what's important. Hillary not getting her way is dead last on the scale of what is important to Americans.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
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