April 4th, 2008
02:05 PM ET
10 years ago

Michigan Dems rule out new vote

Michigan voters participated in the states primary on January 15.

Michigan voters participated in the states primary on January 15.

(CNN) - Michigan Democrats will not to go to the polls again to choose a presidential nominee, even though the national party has refused to recognize the results of their vote in January, the party announced Friday.

"We have concluded that it is not practical to conduct such a primary or caucus," the state party's executive committee said in a written statement. But they added they will continue to work with the Democratic National Committee and elected officials to ensure that the state is represented at the party convention in Denver this August.

Michigan Democrats held their primary earlier than national party rules allowed. The Democratic Party responded by refusing to seat Michigan’s delegates at the convention.

Many Democratic candidates, including Sen. Barack Obama, removed their names from the Michigan ballot after the DNC’s decision, leaving Sen. Hillary Clinton as the only major contender in the state.

Clinton got 55 percent, while 40 percent of the state's voters opted for "uncommitted.”

Clinton said Friday the party had to find a way to avoid “disenfranchising” 600,000 Michigan voters. “Those votes have been cast…. So the Democratic party is going to have to come to grips with whether or not we want to be like the Republicans and disenfranchise people or whether we will stay true to the voting-rights record of this party.”

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soundoff (358 Responses)
  1. Patrice E. Oakland, CA

    It's not Obama fault that this happened. This is the fault of the elected officials in both Michigan & Florida, who decided to have their primary too early from what the DNC rules were outlined for each state to follow. Obama as well as Clinton and the other candidates ALL AGREED that since both states broke the rules, the punishment was that since NON OF THE DELEGATES WOULD COUNT, NON OF THEM WOULD CAMPAIGN IN EITHER STATE. They all signed an agreement. But Clinton kept her name on the ballot, just for this reason....TO CHEAT, and everyone knows it. Obama followed the rules. He did was what was required by the DNC.

    Now that Obama started winning the so called "Small States" and gained some ground as far as delegates are concerned, the Clintons (her supporters) and the DNC want to change the rules in the middle of the game. Suddenly, they are concerned about Michigan & Florida being seated, but nobody thought about this before the primaries and caucuses started.....only when Obama started winning....that is funny to me. OBAMA DID NOTHING WRONG...HE FOLLOWED THE RULES......CLINTON DID NOT!!!!

    Obama 08!!!

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  2. Reid

    Where were the "people of Michigan and Florida" when their idiot legislators were trying to cut in line??? The sad thing is if they would have waited until now to vote they would have had the national spotlight, and all the campaign dollars and promises that come with it, all to themselves. Fools should never be rewarded just like the morons who bought more house than they can afford using sub prime mortgages.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  3. dAnnE

    How can people be so blinded? This has nothing to do with being an Obama or Clinton supporter...The fact is that Obama is not to blame for this mess and Yes Clinton does want to forget the rules because she is losing. If you can't recognize facts, regardless of who you support than you are IDIOTS and don't deserve a vote.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  4. nate

    The same 3 posters blame Obama for something he obviously had nothing to do with. WE won YOU lost – get over it.

    April 4, 2008 02:59 pm at 2:59 pm |
  5. Cynthia

    I hate the see the voters from Michigan and Florida being able to vote but – THE RULES ARE THE RULES!!!!!!!!!!!! We all have to learn that for every action there is a reaction and it is not always they way you expect it. Anybody the reads the newspaper and listens to the news will know that Obama did not have anything to do Michigan or Florida not being able to vote. HE HAS ALWAYS SAID THAT HE WILL ABIDE BY WHATEVER THE DNC DECIDES TO DO. Remember, when Senator Clinton was ahead in the vote count – she said that Michigan and Florida did not matter. Now that her numbers are down and she shat she needse them – now she doesn't want them to be disenfranchised. Sounds like she is hoping she will be enough votes to bring her numbers up.

    April 4, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  6. lime

    Why are the Obama people so afraid of revotes in Mi and FL? This makes him look like a weak candidate. A real fighter looks for a scrap anywhere, any time. The truth is that the female in this election has the nads. If he is the nominee, the Repubs will have a field day with him. He will probably carry Ma, Mn, Ca, and Dc in Nov. I will write in Hillary because I will never vote for Obama, or a Republican.

    April 4, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  7. Brendan D, Niles, IL

    Public eye is right - Michigan voters were NOT disenfranchised. If the voters want to get mad at anybody, get mad at the Michigan state Democratic Party. Don't vote for Democrats in your statewide elections if you're that angry with your state party. And maybe, finally, you can teach that fool of a governor up there to keep her mouth shut regarding the American electoral process, about which she obviously knows absolutely nothing.

    April 4, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  8. NLS

    Hey, Moderator. What was wrong with my post?

    You guys let these nuts on here all the time, but when someone points out what's missing on this Ticker, and offers a little criticism the ineptitude of those that write this crap, you don't allow it?

    (Are you gonna put this up now? And ignore what I said earlier?)

    April 4, 2008 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  9. Anonymous

    GO HILLARY !!!!! New polls out show Clinton/Obama tied – Gee..
    Maybe OBama should drop out 'FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY"
    :Let ALL the VOtes & ALL the people vote!
    Count FL Hillary will WIN!!!!
    Funny, how obama supporters do not want FL & MI to count – he would loose!!!!

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  10. ALBO

    No new rimary or caucuses ?? Opinion polls show dead heat ??

    Very easy solution: seat half/half, which would be totally fair and make Michigan voters happy !! But of course, this is not HILLARY's real goal !!


    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  11. Independent

    Sorry Michigan- blame your governor. As for Sen. Clinton- speaking out of bothe sides of your motuh again. first you acknowlege that the votes in Fl and Mi don't count, but now that you are losing, we musn't disenfranchis any voter. How convenient for you and your thugs. The only fair way is 50-50- for both states.

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  12. Abbey

    Neither FL nor MI delegates should count. Rules are rules. There are consequences for not following them. Howard Dean needs to show he has a backbone and stick to the original rules. Get over it people. I'm from Michigan and I don't think they should count. If either FL or MI delegates are counted in any form, I will be so disappointed in the DNC. No wonder no one takes them seriously.

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  13. bk

    Cheating liar Obama because of him Michigan voices will not be heard. Obama sent Al Sharpton down to Florida to make sure our voices aren't heard either and he is the only one that ran ads here. Me and many others will vote for McCain before we will ever vote for Obama. He will do and say anything to win and calls himself a uniter. I wonder what he calls suppressing over a million voters.

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  14. Justin in CA

    ""Michigan voters disenfranchised….courtesy of Barack Obama!""

    Are you crazy. How about the Govenors or the people the citizens of those two state put in place to handle there best interest. Maybe they will get a little more involved then just allowing there state to break the rule and cray about it later.

    Christ in Florida is just the next J Bush

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  15. Quater the country

    It is silly the way this system is set up. Wouldn't it make more sense to have four regional primaries and be done with it. Have all the canidates campaign in one area for a few weeks and have a vote that way everyone gets a say and no state gets to dominate the attention. Any way the way the rules are now they must be followed or next election we'll be having primaries two years in advance.

    It isn't helping anyone to fight about how this is anyones fault other than the Democratic party in Mich and Florida. Sure Obama could have supported more in the revote but If the shoe was on the other foot and Hillary had lost there does anyone for a second think she would be supporting a revote. It is a silly argument and it has ended the only way it can. At this point 50/50 split is the only way to seat their delegates.

    April 4, 2008 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  16. Robert IL

    I don't know if I want to laugh or get upset when I see people blaming Obama for MI and FL.

    PEOPLE, the rules were broken. The same rules even HILLARY flip flop CLINTON agreed to.

    On a side note, does anyone notice that you see the same people comment multiple times in a post, but when you try to do it, it gets blocked or never posted? I'm just curious...

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  17. VJmem

    Listen people......Again, these people were not disenfranchised. Stop laying blame where it shouldn't be. Look, the keyword here is that the voting was UNSANCTIONED, repeat UNSANCTIONED.

    The DNC really doesn't have to try and compromise on anything. It set the rules, pure and simple. Again, why did these states not feel "disenfranchised" when this happened? Ask HRC why she didn't cry out for them then.

    Come people......stop the madness. Anything either candidate gets out of this now is good for both.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  18. Jesse

    I am a Hispanic from Texas and know way in hell will I vote for Obama. I guess McCain will get my vote if hillary does not win.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  19. dAnnE

    Alex K?

    How can you speak for every moderate or independent? I really don't think you know what you are talking about. Supporters from both sides conduct themselves badly at times.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  20. MP

    What does Clinton care about voting right? She wants to overturn pledged delgates. Where is the voter rights then? She only cares about the voter when its a vote for Billary.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  21. True Independent, MD

    These people disregarded the rules, then started making so much noise about their votes not counting. And then blamed Sen Obama for it.

    MI and FL must have the most obtuse Democrats in this country.

    Get over yourselves. Next time use your brain!

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  22. Pam

    If Michigan voters have a problem with this (Florida voters too), vote out the people who made the decision to change the primary. The candidates had nothing to do with it.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  23. Jane PA

    The right thing to do. First Hillary agreed on the rules so why did she want the rule to changed. She even said she does not care before.

    April 4, 2008 03:02 pm at 3:02 pm |
  24. Brendan D, Niles, IL

    Is Glen in NC insane?? Allowing Hillary to take anything from this goes against everything for which the Dems are supposed to stand! Look, y'all gotta get over it: Hillary is done. It's a matter of time now, and if she screws this up for the Democratic Party, I hope each and every one of you GOP-bashing, right-wing-conspiracy-fearing whiners will stand up and sing the praises of a woman whose career in politics will be finished.

    April 4, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  25. Michael

    Don't call yourself American if you want the Michigan results to count! Cuba has elections where there is only 1 candidate on the ballot CASTRO, is that democracy?

    April 4, 2008 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
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